Koe Wetzel: The Glow Up Nobody Saw Coming

Koe Wetzel sits down with Bunnie Xo for one of his most honest conversations yet. From East Texas dive bars to sold-out arenas, Koe opens up about the changes that transformed his life—cutting back on drinking, getting healthy, becoming a dad, and creating his new album, Night Champion. He shares stories from his wild early days, growing up in a musical family, playing college football, getting kicked out of school, spending time in jail, and taking the ultimate gamble on a music career when everything started to take off. Koe and Bunnie dive into the highs and lows of touring, the pressure of success, and why Night Champion feels like the closing chapter on the last decade of his life. He talks about writing deeply personal songs, the story behind "The Man" (including a live snippet), and why being vulnerable with fans has become more important than ever. Koe also opens up about reconnecting with Bailey, their engagement, welcoming their daughter Woods, and how becoming a girl dad completely changed his perspective. Plus, the two swap tour stories, debate the worst hangover cities, celebrate Texas roots, and wrap things up with a rapid-fire round that proves Koe is still Koe. Koe Wetzel: Website https://www.koewetzelmusic.com Watch Full Episodes & More: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Dumbblondepod

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

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• 2:08Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on? What's up you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. From east Texas bars to selling out arenas, this man has turned heartbreak, bad decisions, and real life into an entire movement. You guys, I've been trying to get this mofo on the podcast forever. Welcome, Co Wetzel.

• 2:26Speaker 03

  What's up?

• 2:27Bunnie XO?

  Dude, you look so good.

• 2:29Speaker 03

  Thank you, I appreciate it.

• 2:30Bunnie XO?

  What the hell's going on? We have to talk about this glow up because everybody online is noticing it. You look happy, you look healthy. What's happening?

• 2:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's just a lot of changes, a lot of big changes have been happening over the last couple of years. And yeah, I think it was time. I feel like everybody's been kind of getting on this health kick. You know, seeing Jelly do it, obviously. And then a lot of us, you know, me and Earn and a lot of the guys just kind of, I guess, just figured it was time to get our shit together. And yeah, no, it was, I don't know. I just looked in the mirror one day and I was like, damn, we were actually doing promo for the Damn Near Normal World Tour. And you know, after we dropped, before we dropped Nine Lives and stuff. And I was on the lake fishing with my buddy. He was like behind me doing some content. And we got back and I was looking at myself. I was like, goddamn, I didn't let myself go. I got on the scale.

• 3:20Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  This was about two years ago. And I was like, I gotta get it figured out. So it kind of started around then, I guess. And then, I don't know. It's just, you know, having baby girl come into the world and all these things. I don't know, I kind of decided it was time to get it right.

• 3:35Bunnie XO?

  You got the dad glow up.

• 3:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing.

• 3:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, well, you can go one of two ways. I've seen it happen, like they end up looking hot like this, or they end up fucking looking like John Goodman, so.

• 3:46Speaker 03

  I don't know. I think I would have been pretty bad off if I'd have went the other way, where I was at before, so.

• 3:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I remember when we were on tour with you guys. You guys were fucking wild.

• 3:55Speaker 03

  It was that, but yeah, whenever we were on tour together, like, I mean, every night was a party too. I mean, just as well as I do. It was, it was chaos, so.

• 4:02Bunnie XO?

  I don't know how you guys do it. My husband was the same way. Like, they would drink every fucking night. And I'm just like, how do you guys like even function and then do it again the next day?

• 4:10Speaker 03

  Well, that was, that was it to like, to give. Get over the hangover, just start drinking again.

• 4:14Bunnie XO?

  Care of the dog.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  Around around showtime and then, you know, we'd party together till four or five in the morning and then go back into it.

• 4:21Bunnie XO?

  No, it was wild, but I'm proud of you. You look really good. Are you taking peptides or anything?

• 4:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, I got on some peptides. Yeah.

• 4:26Bunnie XO?

  Which ones? What's your stack?

• 4:28Speaker 03

  Um, so I'm doing, I'm doing like the BPC one fifty seven, TB five hundred. Um, I ran Reta for, for a little while.

• 4:36Bunnie XO?

  How did Reta make you feel? Because I took Reta and that shit made me want to off my health.

• 4:40Speaker 03

  It was, it was good. Like the first two or three weeks, it was really good. And then it, I don't know, I just couldn't drink on it. Every time I drank on it, that was whenever it got really bad, but, um.

• 4:49Bunnie XO?

  Like sick? You get sick or depressed?

• 4:52Speaker 03

  It was like the worst headache ever, like super nauseous the next day. Um, but like I've never had any bad side effects on it while I was on it. And then, uh, I ran for about two or three months and then, um, got off of it and then I got like GHKCU and NAD plus. And, but I mean, I feel like Superman.

• 5:10Bunnie XO?

  Doing all the good stuff.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, the, the energy levels, like everything about it. Like I don't, it's just kind of like a tool that I've been using, you know, obviously that and eating clean and being in the gym too. So, um, I don't know. It's just, it's good for like the mental health and everything, like everything about it, I guess. So, um.

• 5:26Bunnie XO?

  You seem more clear headed and more focused than I've ever seen you before. Like you can.

• 5:31Speaker 03

  That was, that was another thing with the Reta too, though. Like it was, it, it did fuck, fuck with my dopamine levels. I feel like a little bit, like stuff that I did enjoy. Cause I mean, it just kind of suppresses like your appetite along with other things, I feel like. And so, uh.

• 5:44Bunnie XO?

  Bro, I couldn't even listen to music.

• 5:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:47Bunnie XO?

  When I was on it, I was driving one day with no sound.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:50Bunnie XO?

  And I was like, this, you know what? Something's fucking wrong. I was like, this is fucked up. Like I was like, at least have to, if I'm not going to eat, I need to listen to music, you know?

• 5:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I mean, but like that, but that helped a lot with, you know, the alcohol and stuff because, you know, then I would look at alcohol. I'm like, I can't drink that shit, you know? And so that's helped a lot with that as well. And just, but, uh, that was cool coming off of that because a lot of the stuff that, you know, it suppressed, it kind of, you know, carried over into what it is now. And so, um, yeah, the, the whole drinking thing, I think I'm drinking like two or three times a month, maybe.

• 6:21Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 6:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, the last time I seen you, I don't, I think I had a bottle in my hand every, every time I seen you.

• 6:28Bunnie XO?

  Cole, I don't even think you remember that tour.

• 6:30Speaker 03

  I don't. It was, it was, it was chaos. It was, I don't know. It was, it was a lot of fun.

• 6:36Bunnie XO?

  Isn't it so cool to look back on it and then like looks and see how far you've grown though? Like that's, that's what life is about. It's like evolve or die. So, and then that's what you're doing. And I think that you're setting a really good example for guys that are in the industry and that are in the same lane as you. Because you know, you would think of like outlaw music and like, you know, rock country and Texas, Texas, you know, music. You think of everybody just like, you know, kind of having their own like wild streak and you do still have your wild streak, but you, you've kind of contained the beast.

• 7:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I think that's what it's, it's good to have that happy medium though, you know, being in it and, and, and I'm not saying, you know, I'm not, I'm not just, you know, walking a straight line nowadays, you know, I still have my nights. Where I'll go out and as much as I can, the hangovers are hurting a little more these days, so it's not.

• 7:22Bunnie XO?

  That's age. How old are you?

• 7:23Speaker 03

  I'm thirty three. I'll be thirty four in July.

• 7:25Bunnie XO?

  You're still a baby.

• 7:26Speaker 03

  I know, everybody keeps saying that. I feel like I'm eighty five years old some days, you know, with the, I don't know, aching bones and.

• 7:33Bunnie XO?

  Wait till you hit your forties and you're like, what the fuck happened?

• 7:36Speaker 03

  I've heard, like, people would tell me that, like, you know, in your twenties, they're like, wait till you get to your thirties and you get to your thirties. They're like, wait till you get to your forties and, yeah, I don't know.

• 7:44Bunnie XO?

  You sniff alcohol in your forties and you have a fucking hangover, dude. It's, I had to stop drinking. I stopped drinking in my forties because it just was not worth the three days of being.

• 7:52Speaker 03

  Are you not drinking?

• 7:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh, I've been sober since twenty eighteen off alcohol, twenty seventeen off pills and cocaine and twenty eighteen off alcohol, yeah. I'm telling you, man, you, you just, sobriety is probably one of the hardest journeys you'll ever take. So I, I never tried to like preach it to anybody and everybody's journey is their own. But when you learn how to control it, it's like the biggest blessing ever.

• 8:13Speaker 03

  I've heard it's the super drug, like that's, you know, and the older that I'm getting, you know, it's, it's obviously even more appealing to me. And, and it does, you know, like me slowing it down, like I said, I drink two or three times a month. And, you know, I'll go for the week and a half, two weeks in between drinking and I'm eating super clean. I'm going to gym five days a week, getting up early in the morning, you know, and. Watching the sun come up and having that alone time for that thirty to forty five minutes in the morning and just trying to get everything together and and clear your head and stuff. I feel so damn good, you know, compared to, you know, back whenever it was kind of going to bed at that time.

• 8:46Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 8:47Speaker 03

  And just trying to nurse the hangover all day. But no, I do feel, me and Parker talk about that a lot.

• 8:53Bunnie XO?

  Parker's crazy.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's, he's, he's on a different, he's on a different level though, you know, he's, uh, yeah, his, uh.

• 9:00Bunnie XO?

  I had him in here too, and I was finding out all the shit he was doing. I was like, DMT?

• 9:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, yeah, we came up together and so we had some good times. We had some rowdy times and, uh.

• 9:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, he's old us.

• 9:10Speaker 03

  You know, I, I talked to, we, I talked to him. He's one of my best friends. I talk to him, you know, every other day or whatever. And, and that's just how, that's how kind of that, how our conversations have changed as we've kind of grown up and stuff. And, and he'll tell you, tell you the same thing. He'll go, you know, I feel, he's in the best shape of his life right now. You know, he's, he's doing all this stuff, just won album of the year with ACM and stuff.

• 9:30Bunnie XO?

  I know, so proud of him.

• 9:31Speaker 03

  You know, it's, it's crazy because you go out and drink and it's like all that, you know, ten, twelve, fifteen days of you just being super clean and working out and everything. It's kind of depletes for a week. You feel like shit for a week and it's really hard to get back to, so. Uh, but no, there's a lot of us that are, that are in a really good place right now. I think, uh, it's, uh, I don't know, it feels good to feel good and I don't know.

• 9:50Bunnie XO?

  I'm proud of you.

• 9:51Speaker 03

  Thank you, I appreciate it.

• 9:52Bunnie XO?

  Is there anything else that you do besides like songwriting? Like, do you journal? What do you do? Do you like meditate?

• 9:58Speaker 03

  Um, not so much. I've tried the meditating deal, but, um, I don't know.

• 10:03Bunnie XO?

  It's hard.

• 10:04Speaker 03

  It is hard, right? And, and I even tried to get into like the, was it the grounding where, where you walk out and.

• 10:09Bunnie XO?

  And barefoot? I get weirded out. I'm like, what if I'm stepping on dog piss?

• 10:12Speaker 03

  I know, it's, it's weird. And we, you know, out in Texas, we've got a bunch of down sticker burrs and everything else. So, I mean, I don't, the, the grounding deal and the meditation I heard is like really good for it, but.

• 10:22Bunnie XO?

  Cold plunge?

• 10:23Speaker 03

  The what?

• 10:24Bunnie XO?

  Cold plunge?

• 10:24Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah, cold plunge. So we got like cold plunge and sauna at the house and stuff. And I'll do the hot cold therapy and all that stuff, which is, which is great. But that and I'll do a bunch of box breathing. It's been like really good for me, especially like coming in and doing all these podcasts and stuff and not knowing what we're going to talk about and stuff. Like I woke up this morning and I walked outside and I was just like trying to do my box breathing and stuff. But, um,

• 10:47Bunnie XO?

  I think it's so funny that you can stand in front of thousands of people, but then come in to do a podcast or having to sit one on one with somebody.

• 10:56Speaker 03

  It is, I don't know what it is about it like, and I've always been that way. You know, for the longest, like the first probably five or six years of our career, like from noise complaint till probably before I signed with Columbia. So, I mean, damn near five years, I had like really no interviews and stuff like that. And I love that because for, for one, it gave people kind of like, uh, it was like a mysterious deal, like who is Co Wetzel? What is this music? You know, and we had a lot of fans that wanted to know a lot about me. But at the same time, it was, and it really wasn't, uh, like, uh, it was kind of like a, the anxiety and everything kind of came, came from all that, I guess, later on, you know, after doing it a lot, like it was never that I didn't want to do them. It was just, you know, we didn't, we didn't push to radio or anything like that.

• 11:39Speaker 03

  So, um, I don't know, we just never really did them. And then whenever I started doing them, I was like, this is crazy. This is, this is not what I'm used to.

• 11:46Bunnie XO?

  It could also be because you're kind of sober now too. So you're not like, before you were probably showing up hungover or drunk and like still having something in your system.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. And, and I would, you know, to get through them, used to be to get through the podcast interviews and stuff like that. I would, I'd, I'd go to the bar and get pretty, pretty loose and then get on the podcast interview and drink then. And by the end of it, I'm spilling the beans on everything and just,

• 12:08Bunnie XO?

  Damn it, we should have got that Co.

• 12:10Speaker 03

  That's what I told, I told Kobe and them all the way over here. I was like, man, we should have grabbed some beers on the way over here. And I was like, nah, hell no. I've been saying all kinds of stupid shit on here.

• 12:19Bunnie XO?

  That's all we need. That's so funny. All right. So moving on, let's talk about how you grew up in East Texas. I actually grew up, I'm from Texas myself. I'm from Houston. But I thought it was great to find out that you grew up around the Fort Worth area because I literally have a hat that says Fort Worth famous. Growing up in East Texas, it means everybody knows your business. Like, everybody's in your business. What's the dumbest rumor you've ever heard about yourself back home? I've been needing new glasses forever, and it's just one of those things I keep putting off. So I finally went on Zinni to pick out a new pair. I'm going with these black rectangle glasses that are really similar to the ones I already wear because, listen, I know what I like. They're classic, they go with everything, and I'm excited to get them.

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• 14:15Speaker 03

  I don't know. I have no idea.

• 14:20Bunnie XO?

  I'm sure there's some spicy ones you don't want to tell us.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm trying to think of.

• 14:25Bunnie XO?

  He's trying to be politically correct, Co, right now.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  I really am, and that's the sober thoughts, sober thoughts in me right now. I'm trying to, I don't know.

• 14:33Bunnie XO?

  You're fine. You don't have to answer it.

• 14:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I'm just trying to think of one, actually. Yeah, I played the fifth on that one, I guess.

• 14:40Bunnie XO?

  So growing up, you grew up with a mom that was a touring musician. Can you tell me about that and take me on that journey?

• 14:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:46Bunnie XO?

  What life is like?

• 14:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, she, I mean, she wasn't, she didn't tour like all the time. It was kind of like a weekend gig deal. She just played like Opry Houses and stuff like that for, you know, stand in bands and she, we'd go around to, you know, every other weekend to Opry Houses and little auditoriums and state or county fairs and shit like that. And she just kind of played all her cover songs and stuff. And so I grew up around live bands and going to these shows, I was a little shithead kid that was like running through the, uh, the crowds and everybody was like, where's this kid's parents, you know? And my dad, he, he worked his ass off a lot and he was always gone a lot. So,

• 15:24Speaker 03

  you know, if mom didn't want to leave me with, uh, my grandparents, you know, she, she let me tag along and then that actually kind of, uh, you know, transformed into me getting on stage with her at a young age and, and being able to play with these bands and, um, I don't know, it was a lot of fun. It was a cool childhood to be able to, to come up around all that and kind of, um, I don't know, see what I kind of liked about, um, each band member that I was around and, and what instruments I wanted to play and just kind of how to work a stage at a very young age. So, uh, it was, it was a lot of fun and, and to this day, you know, she'll still, she'll see some, she was, she always thinks her baby does the best on stage, but I know sometimes that that's not the case, but she'll still look or take me every now and then, which is, uh, it's a good thing. I like having her come to the shows.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  She loves to come out and, uh, and to get in the crowd and, and let everybody know that I'm her baby. So.

• 16:12Bunnie XO?

  I love your sisters. They follow me on TikTok and they're awesome.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're a trip.

• 16:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, they're sweet.

• 16:18Speaker 03

  Z K, she's, she's starting to make, uh, Woods TikTok famous, I guess. At first I didn't even know she was like posting her on, which I don't care, but, uh, I started seeing all these videos and, and Z K's a trip by herself and then Woods, uh, I'm sure she's going to take after her aunts too. So.

• 16:35Bunnie XO?

  I mean, that kid, we're, and we're going to talk about Woods in a second, but she has your face. Like, I mean, that you cannot deny that baby.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:43Bunnie XO?

  She, I felt so bad because Bailey carried her, but literally birthed you.

• 16:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know. I, I tell everybody, you know, I, I kind of felt bad for her whenever she first came out because she did look so much like me. And now she's starting to look more like Bailey, which is a good thing, you know? But, um, yes, there's no denying that one. Uh, that's, that's, that's a fact.

• 17:00Bunnie XO?

  So growing up in such a musical family, what were some of your inspirations for the sound that you have now?

• 17:07Speaker 03

  So like I came from a bunch of different backgrounds. Like my mom, obviously she was into like old timey country and then nineties country. So like anywhere we went, it was between like that and like gospel and worship music. And then with my dad, riding around with him, it was all like old school rock and hip hop. Like hip hop was his, his thing.

• 17:26Bunnie XO?

  What was his favorite hip hop artist?

• 17:28Speaker 03

  Oh, man, he was a big 50 Cent. Like he liked new age. He, he messed with like all the old stuff as well, but like.

• 17:34Bunnie XO?

  50's album back then was, I loved it. It was my stripping song.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  Richard D. Tryon is still, to this day is still one of my favorite records, like of all time. But like it was, it was one of them, like, uh, one of those, one of those things that me and daddy would go out. Wherever, wherever it was or whatever we were doing, he would play, you know, that record or Eminem's record and the, you know, the non edited version and the parental advisory and, uh, and right before we get out of the truck, he'd say, hey, listen here, you go in there and you tell your mom, we listen to this shit. And it'd be the last time we, we listened to it. And I was like, all right, cool. That was like our, our little, uh, secret that we had. And then, you know, every now and then I'd, I'd blur it out a line or something. And mom would like, why the fuck did you hear that?

• 18:15Speaker 03

  And so, uh, yeah, she was, she was pretty strict on me as far as like what I got to listen to. But, uh, but Gary Dell was, was a real one. And let me, let me just kind of crash out on all of it.

• 18:26Bunnie XO?

  Did you ever want to do rap? Did you ever want to be a rapper?

• 18:29Speaker 03

  No, not really. Uh.

• 18:30Bunnie XO?

  Like Ernest, Ernest used to rap, which I find fucking hilarious.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  He's cold too.

• 18:35Bunnie XO?

  No, he's great. Yeah, no, he's great.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  No, I, I grew up around a lot of, a lot of friends that did stuff and, and I used to flow a little bit, but I just never, I was just more like a vocal melody kind of guy, you know, like, uh, I love Anthony Hamilton, right? And so like that was one of my favorites growing up. My, my cousin, uh, Chase, he, uh, I remember whenever I first got my first iPod, I guess like the Nano or whatever it was that came out. Um, we didn't have a computer at the house. All I gave it to him to put all his music on and. He gave it to me and it came with like everything that I'd never heard before, like a bunch of Eminem, a bunch of like Anthony Hamilton and stuff like that. So he was another big influence on, on why I listen to the stuff I do and, and how it kind of transformed my sound, I guess, today.

• 19:19Bunnie XO?

  I love that. So going from a musical family, of course, you're in Texas, so you play football. Football's huge. Take me on that journey of playing football, but also didn't you get kicked out of college for too many wild nights?

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, too many wild nights.

• 19:34Bunnie XO?

  I mean, I don't even believe that, Co.

• 19:37Speaker 03

  I know, it's crazy to think nowadays, right?

• 19:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 19:40Speaker 03

  No, yeah, so in Texas, you know, football's life. It's, uh, it's, it's kind of everywhere. It's, it's hard to get away from and, and just, just like it's music, you know? And so, um, yeah, I came up playing football, uh, come from a very athletic, both sides of my family are very athletic as well. And my granddad, he was one of the only All-Americans to come from Pittsburgh, Texas. You can't wear number 12 at, at Pittsburgh. Um, they retired his number and, um, so just like a bunch of, you know, I came from a, a background of, you know, it was, you had to play sports whether you liked it or not, but, um, so I ended up getting a football scholarship to Charleston State in Stevieville.

• 20:20Speaker 03

  Went up there and, and snapped my leg and had to have surgery and I came back and that was kind of in the time that we were, we were putting the band together and starting to, to gig a lot more and kind of travel and play music. And so, uh, yeah, it, I, once I came back, I was like, I'm tired of getting up at 5 a.m. every morning. I'm tired of motherfuckers yelling at me. So, yeah, I told them to kick rocks and started chasing this music dream and then, uh, I stayed in school for another year. So it would have been my, two, my second year at Charleston State. And like I said, we were playing a lot of music and, uh, I liked chasing women and drinking beer a lot more than going to school. And so they told me to get fucked and.

• 20:57Bunnie XO?

  Throwing, throwing balls with a bunch of dudes.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, that, yeah, I was tired of tackling dudes and, um, no, it was, I think it was, looking back now, it was one of the better things that could have happened to me because that led to so many more opportunities, I feel like. You know, there's no telling where, where I'd be in life had I stuck it out. And honestly, I'll tell you where I'd probably be pouring concrete, honestly, back in East Texas with my family. So. Yeah, I think there's a lot of opportunity in that. And back then, my folks did not think that way, you know, about it. They were pretty upset with me and it was kind of, you know, you got to figure this shit out pretty, pretty early on. And lucky, lucky for me, I had a lot of cool guys around me that helped shape the sound that we had and, you know, eventually having people fuck with the music the way they did

• 21:43Speaker 03

  and kind of give us this opportunity to, to continue playing and, and living this life that we get to.

• 21:48Bunnie XO?

  When did you realize that music was actually gonna like make it for you? Because after you get kicked out of school, are you thinking like, fuck, now I really have to like make something happen in music or I'm gonna go back to pouring concrete with my family?

• 22:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was, you know, it was kind of a bunch of different things. Cause after, after I got out of school, it wasn't, we were playing a bunch of shows, but it was like three or four a month. Like it wasn't, we didn't have a huge touring schedule and, you know, it was just us doing it. We didn't have a manager, booking agent, none of that stuff. So we're doing everything on our own. And so that was, that was kind of like the, the, all right, we gotta go, we gotta go ahead and get it. And then I go to jail, I get picked up, you know, I'm, I'm kind of skipping around on jobs. I can't really keep a job just cause, you know, I'm, I'm drinking and I'm partying my ass off and stuff. And so I'm bouncing around. I finally get picked up in Stevensville for a P I, which I don't really remember.

• 22:45Speaker 03

  I was, I was, I left the party, I think my truck broke down. And they found me out in the middle of a soccer field and, and so I kind of woke up in jail, not really knowing what had happened and, and ended up staying there for about two or three days and finally, you know, kind of coming out of it. Called my dad and, and my dad said, you know, he was, he was never gonna be super upset with me unless I went to jail. And so having to call him on that, after that situation, it was, it was pretty hard, you know, and, and he did, you know, he just said, hey, you're a grown ass dude, you know, he was like, I raised you the way I did, you know, I know what kind of person you are. He's like, but you gotta figure this shit out, you know? And so.

• 23:26Speaker 03

  Ever since that moment, it was kind of like, alright, it's kind of like, uh, like fighter, or what is it?

• 23:32Bunnie XO?

  Fighter flight?

• 23:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, fighter flight and, and, uh, you know, it was one of them moments that, man, I'll never forget it. I was laying in bed one night and I was kind of, I didn't have any money. I was broke, you know, I was, um, it felt like the music wasn't going anywhere. The songs I was writing didn't really make a whole lot of sense, didn't mean a whole lot to me. Um, and I prayed about it. I was like, God, if this is what you really want me to do, you gotta let me know like soon. Cause if not, then I am. I'm either gonna go to the oil patch out in West Texas, or I'm gonna go back to East Texas and I'm gonna pour concrete. And I'll never forget that because, you know, I went in and started writing these songs for Noise Complaint. Um, we put out Noise Complaint and within, you know, two weeks, we're selling out shows all over Texas.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  And that was kind of a moment for me that I was like, alright, this is, this is your calling. This is what God sets you up to do. So you need to figure it out and, and really hammer down and really, you know, go all in on that. And with that, you know, I met Jeb with Red Eleven. Uh, that's my manager now. You know Jeb Hurt and, and, um, you know, the pieces just really started falling into, to place for us. And, um, yeah, it's just kind of led, led up to everything that, that is now. You know, it's, it's kind of crazy from where it started to where it is now. And, you know, taking the time to look back and enjoying, and enjoying those small moments like that. You know, as shitty as they were, as, as rough as some of those moments were, um, to how good everything is now. It's a, it's a blessing. So.

• 25:00Bunnie XO?

  It is such a blessing and I, and you should be proud of yourself. I remember when I first started hearing about you, um, I think you were like going viral on X and I think like one of the social media platforms. And that's how I had found out about you. And I was just like, who is this? And then my husband found out about you and he was just like, oh my God, I love Co. You have to hear Co. And so like we were all Co. in the house. And then you've just like watching just the transformation. And I understand what you're saying because there's sometimes where Jan, I will just sit down and we'll just be like, dude, do you remember like when we were in a fucking 18 passenger van? You know, driving from show to show. And it's like, sometimes I really miss those days. Because it was so simple, you know, and then you look at to where everybody is now and it's just like, holy shit, like it's a fucking wild ride.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  It's uh, and it's, you know, it's, it's crazy to think, you know, they say, you know, the, the, these are the best, these are the best days right here. You don't realize the best days until they're over with, right? And, and we talk about that a lot, you know, going from, you know, piling everything into the back of my pickup and driving across Texas for these shows into the van, into the bigger van, into the bus. And now, you know, we're flying around on jets and stuff and it's crazy to even think about, you know, but, because back then, you know, we never in our wildest dreams thought about that, you know, much less playing to, you know, all these thousands of folks that come out and listen to us, you know, but, uh, every, there was, in every single one of those moments, there was really great times that were had and some of the best moments, but we just didn't know how good we had it, you know?

• 26:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 26:26Speaker 03

  And, uh, I don't know, I think, you know, with life and getting older and everything, I think the best is yet to come. And so I think, so, I don't know, just a good way to look at life and kind of go into each day with this.

• 26:36Bunnie XO?

  I love that. I love that perspective. Um, coming in the industry though, did people first embrace your sound or do you feel like you had to like really prove yourself? Today's episode is brought to you by Vinted. Y'all know how it goes. You open your closet and have a million things hanging up, but somehow still feel like you have nothing to wear. That's me. And let's be real, half that stuff hasn't been touched in forever. Instead of letting all those clothes just sit there taking up space, you might as well make a little money off of them. If you haven't used it yet, Vinted is a secondhand marketplace app that makes it so simple to sell the quality clothes you no longer wear and discover unique pieces at great prices. And the best part, you don't have to make a whole project out of selling your clothes.

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• 27:53Speaker 03

  So like whenever we first came in.

• 27:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, like when you first came in and like even trying, I know how hard it is to get on fucking radio, you know, so you have to do the whole dog and pony show with them. So what was it like trying to even get played on the radio?

• 28:06Speaker 03

  Well, I think, I think, you know, coming up in the, we came up in the Texas country scene, the red dirt scene down in Oklahoma and Texas. And so I feel like for the longest time, um, you know, we started, we put out our first EP like in 2013. Um, and then we did a record after that out in 2014, 15, and then noise complaint. So for two records, pretty much, I feel like we were trying to do something that everybody else was doing. We weren't like, I wasn't being 100% myself. I was being myself, but my music wasn't, it wasn't showing that a lot, right? And so, um, with noise complaint, it was one of those deals that it was the first time that I just went in all in and was just like, you know, this is 100% me. I'm going to tell it exactly

• 28:48Speaker 03

  where I want to. I want it to be rowdy. I want it to be crazy. And not to say that I'm the first rowdy, crazy motherfucker to come out of Texas scene or the red there saying, cause I'm not, but I think at that moment, uh, I just wanted to be, um, I just wanted to be different than anybody else, you know, I didn't want to be cookie cutter in any way. I wanted to be 100% us, you know, cause we were, you know, we're 20, 21, 22, 23 years old. I mean, we were, we were kind of would have been coming out of college if I'd have stuck around, but, but no, I mean, it was, we were still in that party here. I mean, it was like, you know, we're, we're young, wild and free. And so taking that to the shows and just going crazy and playing to these college crowds and playing to the same kids and people that are going through the same shit as we are

• 29:33Speaker 03

  in this, you know, coming of age, um, like era of ourselves. And so that was super huge for us is just to be 100% authentic, not try to be anything like anybody else. And so in the Texas red dirt scene, you know, you can tour around year round, all over Texas and the surrounding states and, um, and, you know, we're playing for, you know, tens of thousands of people, you know, pretty quick. And that was before we even tried anything with radio because we, we did it for so long without radio that we felt that we didn't really need it. And, um, it wasn't till recently, I mean, last, last year, two years ago, that we took a stab at radio, um, just because.

• 30:14Speaker 03

  We kind of felt in ourselves that it was, we had basically done everything that we possibly could on our own without, you know, anybody's help. And so.

• 30:23Bunnie XO?

  You know, sometimes you hit that ceiling and it's like you need help to get to the next level.

• 30:27Speaker 03

  For sure. And I'm not one of the, I'm not the one to be, you know, I hate asking people for stuff, you know, I hate asking people for help. I feel like I can always do it on my own and that's 100% not the case. And you know, I feel like you can always use your, use help from somebody. And so getting to play all these mainstream festivals and stuff over the last like four or five years, you know, I was just seeing the way these crowds acted, you know, up north and, and places that weren't familiar with our music and stuff. And I was like, a lot of these folks and fans that are coming out and listening to these are listening to people and artists that have multiple number ones on radio. And so that was kind of the

• 31:06Speaker 03

  moment, whenever we cut Nine Lives, I went to Ben Madahi, my A and R with Columbia. And I was like, yo, I think, I think this is the right time for us to go to radio. And I think we have it with High Road. I think that's the, if we're gonna do, do one, then might as well do it with, with this tune. And we got Jessie on it, which is a absolute dog. She's a, she's a superstar. I love Jessie.

• 31:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, we love Jessie too.

• 31:32Speaker 03

  God had her come on it and.

• 31:34Bunnie XO?

  The controversy that surrounded. I had to stand up for her. I felt so bad.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. And it was like, you know, and, and I was, I was doing the same thing. And it, and it was just kind of like, it was, it was, it was so ignorant. And I, you know, it was, but she, she's such a dog and such a fighter. Like every, every time she would like clap back, I was just like reposting. I was like, fuck everybody. Like this is, it was so stupid that it happened. But.

• 31:58Bunnie XO?

  But it was great publicity.

• 32:00Speaker 03

  100%. You can't, you can't do that. You can't do that stuff on your own. I feel like. It was so organic and everything that happened. And, you know, again, I hate that, that had to happen and to her so early on in her career too. But the way she handled it, I was like, yeah, I definitely, I definitely want these people around me. I want her on this song, you know? And I thought that she made that song what it is, you know, especially, you know, especially with everything that happened. And, you know.

• 32:28Speaker 03

  First, first single out to radio and it, and it does what it did. It was, uh, it was, you know, beyond us how, you know, how that helped out. And then we start playing these, these festivals, we go back to these same festivals that people really didn't know who we were and, and, uh, you know, they're singing every word to damn near every song. So it's, um, I don't know, it's, it's crazy to, to look for help sometimes whenever you think you don't need it.

• 32:51Bunnie XO?

  So. Yeah. You have a great catalog too, but I think one of my favorite things about you is you're not afraid to say the word bitch in your song. I love that about you. And what is it? Yeah. Is it where you're just like bitch?

• 33:04Bunnie XO?

  Every time I'm like, yeah, I always get behind you. I'm like, yeah, co. All right. So let's talk about this new album, Night, The Night Champion. Tell me about it. Like what is different about it? What's the sound? What is your favorite songs? Like tell me all the details about Night Champion.

• 33:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. So the Night Champion, it's, um, it's, it's a record that kind of made itself like we didn't go into it thinking that, um, you know, thinking that we were gonna, to make a record, you know, obviously we wanted to put out some music following up the success of, of Nine Lives and, and High Road and, and all these songs. So we honestly went in to write some songs just to have out, you know, throw out some singles, do this, do that. And the Night Champion kind of wrote itself, you know, we go in to write a song and then we come out with three. And this was, you know, three or four times of doing that. And before we knew it, we had this, uh, we had this record. And so, um, yeah, it's, it's kind of a, it's kind of a, um, an accumulation of, um, the last 10 years, basically of me playing music, like from Noise Complain, you know,

• 34:02Speaker 03

  I feel like every, every chapter of my life is, is, uh, an album that I put out, you know, I kind of throw that into the record that I'm, that's out at that time, you know, and you can look back on every, um, chapter of my life. And I feel like each one of the records that I've put out has kind of been each chapter of it. And so, um, this record is no different from that. Uh, I think that. The Night Champion is kind of a rap on probably like the last 10 years of my life and the last 10 years of me playing music. It's just kind of maybe shutting, maybe closing the book for a little bit, you know, and I don't know what I'm trying to get across whenever I say that. No means, by no means am I quitting music or anything like that, you know, but I just

• 34:47Speaker 03

  think with the sound that I've had for the longest time, you know, Nine Lives is kind of a stretch for us as far as the way our music went, you know, we had, you know, four rock albums, basically. Southern rock with a little twang of country, and then Nine Lives came out and it was kind of a, you know, a more mature me, super vulnerable, and this record isn't too far off from Nine Lives. It's almost like a continuation of that record and, but yeah, the Night Champion, the name and everything comes from, you know, this kind of, the last two years of my life and kind of getting everything, you know, all my ducks in a row and getting more my health

• 35:29Speaker 03

  online with my physical, mental health, everything about it, you know, and just kind of that change, you know, just kind of like me coming out of the night, a champion basically and not, you know, being, you know, in jail or dead, you know, I think that's kind of, I think in a sense in my mind, I'm somewhat of a champion from coming out from that, especially in these last two years of my life and where I am with everything. So that's kind of the whole essence of the new record coming out and we're really excited about it. We've got some really cool songs on there and I think it's got a little bit for everybody that, you know, if you've been a fan from the very beginning or if you're a fan, a newer fan, I think it's got a lot of, lot of stuff that you'll be able to pick out

• 36:13Speaker 03

  and be like, oh, this is from this bar, this is from this bar, so.

• 36:16Bunnie XO?

  Do any of the songs have bitch in it?

• 36:18Speaker 03

  I don't know. Prob- yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna ahead and say yes. There's, there's a lot of fucks too, so.

• 36:25Bunnie XO?

  I love it. What's your favorite song on the album? And is there anything that you can share with us today off the album?

• 36:31Speaker 03

  There's a tune that I wrote with Nick Carpenter from Medium Build called "The Man." I think we talked, I'll play it here in a little bit if that's cool. But, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of cool tunes on there. There's, you know, I love the, the rock stuff, the more heavier stuff. There's one called "Magnet" that's on there. It's a banger. It's one of my, one of my favorites, but there's a lot of slow, sad, sappy shit too. And, and I'm a sucker for a slow, sad country song, so we got a few of those on there.

• 37:01Bunnie XO?

  But are you sad?

• 37:01Speaker 03

  I'm not.

• 37:02Bunnie XO?

  I feel like you have all the happiness right now.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  That's kind of the deal too, is, is a lot of these songs were written three, three years ago, probably.

• 37:11Bunnie XO?

  Gotcha.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  So, kind of before this transition started. So, and so that's what I try to keep telling these, all the fans and everything is like, you're not gonna be able to hear the change in this record just because it was done prior to, you know, Woods and, and this kind of change that's happened for me. So, I think people are gonna listen to it and be like, this motherfucker's lying. Like, he ain't changed none, but, um, no, it's, it's a cool, it's a cool record. And we're really excited about it, so, and I hope that, uh, I hope everybody gives it a listen and digs it too.

• 37:45Bunnie XO?

  And it drops June?

• 37:47Speaker 03

  June 12th.

• 37:47Bunnie XO?

  June 12th. When you sit down to write a song, what usually comes first? Like lyrics, melody?

• 37:52Speaker 03

  Melody, yeah. I'm a melody guy. I'm, I'm, I love Nirvana, huge Kurt Cobain guy and that, that grunge sound and everything. So, one of his deals was melody first, lyrics second. And so, um, that's kind of the whole process of us. We'll, you know, we'll stay up late drinking and we'll kind of get a bunch of memos, voice memos, and just guitar licks and stuff like that. And then once we get into that space, we'll, we'll bring out old shit that we hadn't heard in a couple of years, whatever, and be like, this is pretty cool. I don't know where we were at, whenever we put it all together, uh, but yeah, it's, uh. It's a cool process and it's it's helped out a lot in the past and hopefully it helps out on this record too.

• 38:31Bunnie XO?

  Because you're known for being like brutally honest, is there ever a song that you listen back to and you're like, fuck, I shouldn't have put that in there?

• 38:37Speaker 03

  100%. Yeah, 100%. And and there's there's a couple on this record where I was very iffy about, you know, how are people gonna kind of, how are people gonna kind of interpret it and um with everything that's going on in my life right now, how are people gonna, you know, take this, you know, or whatever? But at the same time, like, you know, that's kind of, that's kind of therapy for me. Um, getting getting those hard things that it's hard for me to say to anybody else out, you know, in the world and and honestly, with people that, you know, message me and like, you know, I was gonna off myself or I was gonna, you know, your music helped me so much and then I found your music and stuff like that, you know, it's

• 39:19Speaker 03

  it's not only therapeutic for me, I found that it's therapeutic for other people as well. So if there's something out there that I can write and that can help somebody else, I think that's that's kind of what I'm put on this earth to do. I think as musician, as as artist, um, I feel like that's something that we shouldn't be afraid to do, right? We shouldn't be afraid to go out and and talk about things that are super hard to talk about and and worry, you know, how people are gonna interpret it, but um.

• 39:45Bunnie XO?

  But that's what makes you relatable though, and that's what your fanbase craves and needs is that that um connection? And so you doing that is why you have such a fierce fanbase.

• 39:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure. No, it's uh, it's it's crazy at the same time. Like I said, I'm I'm I'm glad to help, you know, and and I'm glad that people, there are people out there that feel the same way that I do and and uh, you know, if I can help, it's it's always a plus.

• 40:10Bunnie XO?

  So I'm sorry, he keeps snoring over here and I'm like shaking, I'm trying to wake him up. Um, so tell me about the song "The Man" that you want to show us. What what is it about and what's kind of the vibe and all that jazz? Cause I want to hear some of it.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  So I think it's kind of um, it's it's about, you know, um, a guy just not knowing if he's if he's worth it, you know, if he's worth um, if he's worth love, if he's worth um being exactly who this woman thinks that he is, you know, and I think it's, I think that goes into a lot of, you know, everyday life, not just, you know, if you're in a relationship, but just kind of everyday life, I think there's a lot of of a question, especially with me, you know, I'll go through. A lot of days where it's kind of like, am I, am I doing what I'm supposed to be doing? Am I, you know, am I this person that people think I am, you know? And it's just like, it's a bunch of nonsense that our, our brains kind of trick us, trick us into thinking that,

• 41:04Speaker 03

  you know, that we're not good enough, you know, or whatever it is. And so this was kind of, this is kind of where we kind of went with it at, at first. And the song can be kind of, it can kind of be brought in however people want to, you know, bring it into them, but I think it's just kind of, it's kind of one of those tunes that me and Nick, we're kind of going through it kind of simultaneously, you know, between our personal lives at the same time. And, and we got in, I think halfway through the song, we were kind of like, so which way are we going to go with this? Are we going to go this way or that way? And that's what I'm, that's what, going back to what I said earlier, it's kind of, that's kind of how it can be, you know? However, the listener wants to, yeah, absolutely. And however the listener wants to, to take it in.

• 41:49Speaker 03

  So, yeah, I'll play it for you.

• 41:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, please. I want to hear a little bit of it. Maybe like the first verse and the chorus?

• 41:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, sweet.

• 41:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I would love to. It's a perfect song.

• 41:57Speaker 03

  And this is, it kind of goes back to that, that rock sound that, that everybody's kind of come to know of me, so.

• 42:19Bunnie XO?

  It has that Co feel to it, the guitars.

• 42:42Speaker 05

  She's waking up and hitting my phone. You know I like to be alone. As long as she don't see what's kind of holding me. All right.

• 42:59Speaker 05

  All right.

• 43:02Speaker 05

  And if she believes I'm the man she needs. All right. Oh, more than I.

• 43:14Bunnie XO?

  Makes me want to go to the bar and drink and try my fucking tequila right now.

• 43:19Speaker 05

  Hope that I'm the man that she thinks I am.

• 43:38Speaker 03

  But yeah.

• 43:39Bunnie XO?

  So good. I love it, Cole. Like, that's so good. You have such a talent for

• 43:44Speaker 03

  Appreciate it.

• 43:45Bunnie XO?

  just expressing things and getting, uh, evoking emotions out of people. When I first heard it, I was like, it was so good.

• 43:51Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 43:52Bunnie XO?

  Night Champion is coming out June 12th. You guys have to go and get the album. Let's talk about Bailey and Woods.

• 43:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:58Bunnie XO?

  So I know that you and Bailey just got engaged. Like, congratulations.

• 44:04Speaker 03

  Thank you, thank you.

• 44:05Bunnie XO?

  I'm so excited for you.

• 44:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was, uh, I feel like it's been a long time coming. We dated back in, in college for a couple of years and then split up for a few years, um, and then kind of got back together and it's kind of been on and off for just kind of a very long time. And then, uh, probably over the last, I'd say probably two, two and a half years, we kind of like rekindled that flame that we've had for a while and,

• 44:30Speaker 03

  you know, it's, it's really cool because she's seen me at my worst and she's seen me at my best. And so it's, it's, um, she's, she's such a dog, man. She's, uh, she's one of my favorite people. You know, she's one of my best friends, uh, if not my best friend, I guess. I guess I gotta say best friend.

• 44:47Bunnie XO?

  It's about to be your wife, baby.

• 44:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, right. Yeah, for sure. No, but, um, she's phenomenal, you know, and then, um, Woods comes along, um, biggest blessing in my life by far, um.

• 44:59Bunnie XO?

  What was it like being at the birth?

• 45:01Speaker 03

  It was, it was crazy. So we were on, we were actually on, we were on tour with Hardy. It was the first weekend with Hardy. We finished the record on Wednesday.

• 45:13Speaker 03

  She calls me Wednesday evening. I'm here in Nashville. I'm leaving to go to San Diego for the first show on Thursday. She calls me, she's like, hey, I think that I might go into labor early. You need to, you need to figure out if you're coming back or not. I was like, well, I'm leaving to go to San Diego, but you know, let me know. So I fly to San Diego that night, get there late. I go to sleep at four o'clock. She calls me in the morning. She's like, hey, you need to get here. I'm, I'm finna go into labor. I was like, alright, cool. So I get there and you know, I don't, I, I'd been sober for a month. I knew that I wanted to be completely sober whenever Woods got here, you know, and kind of take it all in and everything and.

• 45:51Speaker 03

  I walk in, I'm dog tired, not as tired as her, obviously, but uh, yeah, it was just an experience, everything about it. It was beautiful. Um. Yeah, it was, when that baby girl came in and I, I looked at her for the first time and looked into her eyes. It was just like a flip, a little flip switch in my brain, man. It was like, everything leading up to this point has been uh, to do this, you know, and um, that's, that's my little angel, man. It's, it's kind of crazy. I feel like I'm probably gonna go to jail here in about sixteen, eighteen years, whenever uh, little boys start coming in or whatever, but.

• 46:27Bunnie XO?

  Oh, she looks like Bailey. You're definitely gonna be in trouble.

• 46:29Speaker 03

  Man, yeah, no.

• 46:30Bunnie XO?

  Bailey's hot.

• 46:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's, no, both of them, they're, they're such a blessing in my life. They're uh, they're, they're my everything and, and so get to spend the rest of my life with Bailey and, and to raise Woods and it's just uh, I don't know. It's, it's, like I said earlier, you know, I'm in a really good place right now. I feel better than I ever have. And they're, they're one of the main reasons behind that. Um, and so it's uh, yeah, it's, it's crazy. It's wild. It's uh, it's great. Everything's good about it.

• 46:59Bunnie XO?

  The growth is admirable. Um, let's talk about her name Woods, because what is your name?

• 47:04Speaker 03

  My name's Roper Madison Coetzel.

• 47:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so I thought it was really cute that you're Roper and she's Woods. Like, how fucking more Texas can you get, dude?

• 47:13Speaker 03

  I know. It was, man, we kicked around a bunch of different names and um, you know, it was, I don't know. Wait, I liked Woods for um, you know, a boy or a girl, whatever it was and. Yeah, whenever she got here, it was, I knew that I wanted to, to name her after me some, somehow, you know, Bailey wouldn't let me name her Roper or Co. So, uh,

• 47:38Bunnie XO?

  It's tainted. You can't name our daughter that.

• 47:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure. Yeah, no, uh, and Madison was my granddad's name. So it was his middle name. And so keeping that name alive in the family and Woods fits her perfect, man. She's, she's already a little handful. She's starting to get her personality, um, which she likes to be left alone a lot, which is right up my alley and Bailey's alley as well. So she's, uh,

• 48:02Bunnie XO?

  She's independent.

• 48:03Speaker 03

  Do what?

• 48:04Bunnie XO?

  She's independent.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's, yeah, very independent. And so like, if you mess with her too long, she'll start like shaking and like, it's the cutest thing in the world, but man, she's, uh, yeah, she's a handful already. We've got our hands full, no doubt.

• 48:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm excited for you.

• 48:19Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 48:19Bunnie XO?

  All right. Well, before I let you go, I'm going to ask you some quick hitter questions and you just have to answer.

• 48:24Speaker 03

  Money, I fucking suck at these. You know that.

• 48:26Bunnie XO?

  You're gonna, you're gonna be good. You're gonna be good. And they're not like the ones that were on the bus.

• 48:30Speaker 03

  Okay, thank God.

• 48:31Bunnie XO?

  I saw him sit up. He was like, oh, fuck. I almost made it through.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  I will take that tequila now.

• 48:37Bunnie XO?

  Uh, and you know what's so funny is on the bus, that's the first thing you did. You said, where's the tequila?

• 48:43Speaker 03

  Things, see, things haven't changed.

• 48:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, not at all. All right. So what's the worst hangover city?

• 48:49Speaker 03

  Oh, man, Fort Worth, Texas, Buffalo, yeah.

• 48:54Bunnie XO?

  I feel like parts of Texas just smell weird.

• 48:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, no.

• 48:57Bunnie XO?

  And Fort Worth is one of them.

• 48:58Speaker 03

  Fort Worth, yeah. Well, it's just all the, you know, you got the stockyards, you got all the, you got all the cattle and everything I was running through. But yeah, it's, I was gonna say Vegas, but I feel like that'd be too cliche. Um, and so, yeah, Fort Worth, Texas, it's, it's, uh, you know, we live right down the road. We live in Weatherford. Um, and we were, we were just there at the PBR finals this weekend. And I'm pretty sure today, it's been what, three, four days since Saturday night? And I think I'm just now getting over my hangover. So shout out Fort Worth.

• 49:26Bunnie XO?

  What's your most chaotic tour story?

• 49:29Speaker 03

  Ah.

• 49:32Bunnie XO?

  That you can tell now that's not, that's politically correct.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, we saw a girl getting her asshole tatted in Waco, Texas.

• 49:38Bunnie XO?

  What was she getting on it?

• 49:39Speaker 03

  I don't know, it was like a star. It was like a, a big star. I mean, her asshole had to been that big around like it, I mean.

• 49:45Bunnie XO?

  Damn. That's like a tree trunk.

• 49:48Speaker 03

  And my, and my boy Lefty's shop in Waco.

• 49:51Bunnie XO?

  Lefty will tattoo it all, buddy.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  I'm telling you. Actually, he wasn't the one doing it, or I wouldn't let him tap me again, but. We, we were in there, we were all kind of getting something. It was like right before a show and we're all in there drinking and just bullshitting. And then, uh, one of his buddies comes in, he was like, hey, y'all gotta come check this out. She's cool. She wants you to check it out. We're like, alright, well. Do we walk in there and she's just, I mean, spread eagle and it was, but it's some bitch is about that big around like.

• 50:17Bunnie XO?

  Damn. You could count the rings around it like a tree trunk. That's crazy.

• 50:21Speaker 03

  Shout out to her, man.

• 50:22Bunnie XO?

  I mean, listen, I love a queen that can just put it all out there.

• 50:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I hope, I hope she's doing okay to be honest. She was a sweet girl.

• 50:30Bunnie XO?

  Alright, what's a song you wish you wrote?

• 50:33Speaker 03

  Oh, oh man. Um.

• 50:41Bunnie XO?

  You can plead the fifth.

• 50:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:44Bunnie XO?

  We're passed.

• 50:45Speaker 03

  Man, yeah, we'll pass. We'll, we'll, let's come back, let's come back to it.

• 50:48Bunnie XO?

  Alright, what's the weirdest celebrity DM you've ever gotten?

• 50:52Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 50:53Bunnie XO?

  You gotta spill the tea. Give us a little tea.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 50:57Bunnie XO?

  I know you've had some weirdos creep in your DMs.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  I don't know, like you and Jelly and like y'all are about the only celebrities I really know, like honestly, like I don't, um. I don't know. Trying to think.

• 51:09Bunnie XO?

  Alright, what's an artist you want to collab with?

• 51:12Speaker 03

  Um.

• 51:14Bunnie XO?

  That you haven't yet.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  Hmm. Man, Dead or Alive or just?

• 51:19Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, Dead or Alive, sure.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Man, Mac Miller would have been great to get with. And man, I was, me and, me and Bailey both, we, we love Mac and I've always been a fan and, and. You know, whenever he passed away, that was the first time that I'd felt like I'd like lost, like a family member, our best friend before like. I was so distraught whenever I found out that, we were actually in New York whenever I found. And man, it was rough. Like, we all just went straight to the bar and started drinking that night. But yeah, man, it's he was, I feel like he was gone, obviously gone way too soon, but the music that he was making, you know, coming up on his music was always great, but the music he was making right there at the end was some of my favorite music still to still to this day and and it sucks. I never got to meet him or or collab with him. But yeah, it was, it'd been great to have a tune with that dude.

• 52:05Bunnie XO?

  That's a good one. What's your most toxic trait, Co?

• 52:08Speaker 03

  Toxic trait?

• 52:10Bunnie XO?

  Now, especially now that you're on the good, the straight and narrow, right, buddy?

• 52:14Speaker 03

  All right, I'm trying to think about some of the shit I've done over the last couple of weeks.

• 52:22Speaker 03

  Oh, man. I'm hard to be around after I've been like taking a nap or something. I don't know if that's a toxic trait.

• 52:28Bunnie XO?

  You're like grumpy when you wake up from a nap?

• 52:30Speaker 03

  And it's bad because like, you know, I'll be at the house and I'll take a nap or whatever. And Bailey will be like, hey, do you mind helping out with Woods or whatever, doing whatever it is? And I'm just like so appalled that she would ask me to do something as soon as I woke up from a nap.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  But I don't know if that's a, yeah, we'll call that a toxic trait.

• 52:47Bunnie XO?

  It's because you have to get your bearings. You know, you just woke up and I think anytime I take a nap and wake up, I'm like way worse than I was before I took the nap.

• 52:55Speaker 03

  I would, sometimes I just force myself to stay awake because I know if I take that nap, then it's going to be hell on everybody. So.

• 53:01Bunnie XO?

  For sure. And last question, what's your favorite thing about Texas?

• 53:05Speaker 03

  Oh, the people. I love the people at Texas, you know, it's, you know, growing up in East Texas, knowing everybody. And now, you know, because we toured in Texas so much and I have friends, no matter where I'm at in Texas, I feel like I can call up anybody and, you know, have a, if I'm broke down or have a ride or, but it just, it feels like home, you know? It's just no matter where I go in the world, you know, we're kind of all over the place and touring and doing this and that. You know, it always just kind of soothes my soul a little bit to know that eventually I'll get to go to home, get to go home to Texas. And I don't know, a super homie and the people are fantastic. And I don't know, man, it's. Yeah, bury me down in Texas.

• 53:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love that. Cole, thank you so much for coming on the podcast finally. Was it bad?

• 53:50Speaker 03

  No, this was great. No, it makes me want to do more podcasts now.

• 53:53Bunnie XO?

  There you go.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  We'll do another one here before too long.

• 53:57Bunnie XO?

  Listen, come back on the couch anytime you want. I'm always here for you.

• 54:00Speaker 03

  Appreciate it.

• 54:01Bunnie XO?

  So proud of you and your growth. Congratulations on getting married and I'm just so excited for you.

• 54:06Speaker 03

  Thank you. Well, I appreciate it. Yeah, we'll see y'all soon. Thank you for having me.

• 54:09Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. Thank you guys for tuning into another episode of Done Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.