Pod Insights 5-4 Movie Review: The Firm [TEASER] About this episode The Firm, the legal thriller starring Tom Cruise, shows us that big law is sometimes worse than the literal mob.
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0:04 Speaker 00 Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. On this subscriber-only episode of Five to Four, the hosts thought it would be nice to take a break from the darkness and despair all around us and instead bring you, our most loyal listeners, something fun. A review of the 1993 legal thriller, The Firm, starring Tom Cruise.
0:24 Speaker 01 You want us to let you turn our bills What we charged you. Over to the government. Yes, sir. It does not in any way waive your rights to full and complete confidentiality in any other area of the attorney-client relationship. I'm your lawyer, gentlemen. Whether I like it or not, I can't talk to the government about you even when I'm no longer your lawyer. That would be breaking my word, my oath.
0:48 Speaker 00 Please enjoy this brief, yet action-packed distraction. And we'll be back next week to remind you how much the Supreme Court and really everything else right now sucks.
0:58 Peter Shamshiri? Welcome to Five to Four, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have broken our civil liberties like J.D. Vance breaking the college football championship trophy.
1:07 Michael Liroff? That's right.
1:08 Peter Shamshiri? I'm Peter, and I'm here with Michael.
1:10 Michael Liroff? Hey, everybody.
1:11 Peter Shamshiri? Rhiannon out sick, also lazy.
1:14 Michael Liroff? Yeah.
1:14 Peter Shamshiri? Not a hard worker like us.
1:16 Michael Liroff? And it's good because she hates football, especially college football. She doesn't care about University of Texas football at all.
1:23 Peter Shamshiri? Nothing more on-brand than that fucking nerd trying to lift up a trophy, and it falls apart. God wouldn't let it happen. The idea of him hoisting an athletic trophy was too much for the universe to handle. It had the trophy had to break. One of them had to break.
1:42 Michael Liroff? I would have preferred it was Vance. Absolutely.
1:45 Peter Shamshiri? Yeah, that was a real monkey paw situation. Someone, someone, someone wished for it, and it came out wrong. All right. We wanted to do a more casual episode because we realized that we'd done multiple depressing immigration-related episodes in a row, which is not our fault. But rather than do another one, which was a real option, we thought, why not do a movie review?
2:15 Michael Liroff? Yeah.
2:15 Peter Shamshiri? And why not The Firm?
2:18 Michael Liroff? Hmm.
2:19 Peter Shamshiri? The 1993 Sidney Pollack-directed, Tom Cruise-led classic.
2:25 Michael Liroff? That's right.
2:26 Peter Shamshiri? A really fun thriller that I had not seen. And Michael, I think you're a big fan of.
2:30 Michael Liroff? I wouldn't say I'm a big fan of, but I had seen it. I had definitely seen it.
2:36 Peter Shamshiri? It makes sense that Ree isn't here for this one because it's about a law firm and...
2:41 Michael Liroff? She knows nothing about that.
2:42 Peter Shamshiri? She doesn't know anything about law firms. We're the law firm guys.
2:45 Michael Liroff? Yeah, that's right. It's all about big law, which is, again, our specialty and Rhiannon hates. So yeah, it makes perfect sense. It all fits. And she hasn't seen the movie, so.
2:57 Peter Shamshiri? Yeah, another big factor. So, first of all, pretty good movie, pretty fun thriller.
3:04 Michael Liroff? Yes.
3:04 Peter Shamshiri? Good 90s thriller energy. Stuff happens, it keeps happening. It's a little bit over the top, but not so much that you lose yourself entirely.
3:15 Michael Liroff? Yeah.
3:16 Peter Shamshiri? All-star cast, Tom Cruise, Gene Hackman, Wilford Brimley, Gary Busey, Hal Holbrook.
3:22 Michael Liroff? Gene Tripplahorn.
3:23 Peter Shamshiri? Yeah.
3:25 Michael Liroff? Ed Harris.
3:26 Peter Shamshiri? Ed Harris, dude.
3:28 Michael Liroff? Did you say Busey and Ali Hunter? There are so many, so many names in this movie.
3:34 Peter Shamshiri? I mean, just a ton of stars. And...
3:36 Michael Liroff? Oh, and Jason Strahan.
3:38 Peter Shamshiri? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:39 Michael Liroff? He's fantastic.
3:40 Peter Shamshiri? The basic plot of the movie is that Tom Cruise is like this young Harvard grad, much sought after, and he joins this small but very successful, rich Memphis law firm. And it very quickly becomes clear that they are a shady law firm. Couple of members of the law firm have recently died under mysterious circumstances that look a lot like murder. Hey, folks, if you want to hear the rest of this episode, you're going to have to subscribe. This episode is one of our premium Patreon-only episodes. Membership starts at just five bucks a month. If you want to hear the rest, join us at patreon.com/54pod. That's 5-4-pod all spelled out.
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