#331 - Hulk Hogan's Best Friend Speaks on Suspicious Death & $62 Million Lie | Bubba the Love Sponge

Watch this episode FULLY uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Bubba the Love Sponge is a legendary shock jock radio personality who currently hosts @TheBubbaArmy show. SPONSORS https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS Watch Bubba's Documentary: https://linktr.ee/vktrsmovie FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Power Pig, Tim Pool & Joe Rogan 07:39 - Why Sirius XM dumped Bubba 15:47 - How Bubba predicted Hulk Hogan's death 27:16 - Bubba's 'Video Killed the Radio Star' Documentary 29:15 - What put Hogan in the hospital 38:01 - Hogan's side ventures 45:18 - Should men shave their arms? 49:32 - Concrete clem's sling story 01:02:38 - Why Bubba hates Matt Cox 01:10:26 - Bubba's radio show 01:16:31 - Peter Thiel's involvement in the Gawker trial 01:29:09 - Why Bubba has bedroom surveillance 01:41:52 - Bubba & Hogan's friendship after the s*x tape 01:52:52 - Censorship 01:59:01 - Politics 02:07:11 - Falling in love with AI 02:13:52 - The 12 boobs of Christmas 02:18:23 - Bubba's early lawsuits & slaughtering a hog 02:28:22 - Mike Calta assaulted Bubba's wife 02:36:24 - Bubba's relationship with Tucker Carlson 02:46:18 - Bubba's new YouTube strategy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:04Danny Jones?

  Power Pig, hello. We're back.

• 1:06Speaker 03

  Hello. Go to bed, you little fetus. How old are you? I'm 12. Call me in six years. Call me when you got some pubes. Um, what's your name? Lisa? Lisa, do you go to middle school? Yes. Is your mom and dad still together? No. Good. How would you like to ride in a Love Spud limousine tomorrow to school while I'm your mom tomorrow night? That's some Power Pig stuff right there. Man, miss those days.

• 1:33Danny Jones?

  Oh my God. I was, I came in after the Power Pig days. I came in.

• 1:37Speaker 03

  You came in the 98 Rock days.

• 1:38Danny Jones?

  I came in the Bone days. The Bone, yeah.

• 1:39Speaker 03

  Oh, you weren't even a 98 rocker?

• 1:41Danny Jones?

  No, I'm, it was, uh, it would have been 2006 or seven.

• 1:45Speaker 03

  That would have been the Bone.

• 1:46Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:46Speaker 03

  We were even crazier on 98 Rock.

• 1:49Danny Jones?

  I was in the back of a painting truck, money and painting truck, driving to work every morning at 5:00, 6:00 a.m. in the back of a paint truck, listening to Bubba every single morning.

• 1:57Speaker 03

  And now look at you, you're a superstar. You got more, you got more, more listeners than I do. Jacked up on the, on the, on the, on the gas, getting ready to get a new studio. I mean, just look at you, drinking Cranium Dream. And nicotine patches and

• 2:13Danny Jones?

  pouches galore.

• 2:14Speaker 03

  God, I think you bought the whole building from the from I think you bought this whole building from the A C people, didn't you? Oh, okay.

• 2:21Danny Jones?

  No, no, no, no, we're moving out of here, bro. We got a new place up in up in Scientology land.

• 2:25Speaker 03

  I know. When you guys, when you guys start that?

• 2:28Danny Jones?

  We've been doing construction since March and we're moving. We're trying to move in next month.

• 2:32Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah, we just got to finish up.

• 2:34Speaker 03

  What's going to be the difference? Is it going to be kind of like a Pat McAfee like a kind of a, you know,

• 2:45Danny Jones?

  We got a gym, a full gym in there. We got the golf simulator going in. We got a full man cave theater with a bar, like a movie theater.

• 2:54Speaker 03

  Have you ever seen?

• 2:57Speaker 03

  Have you ever seen Tim Poole? I did Tim Poole's podcast.

• 3:00Danny Jones?

  Did you?

• 3:01Speaker 03

  Six months ago.

• 3:02Danny Jones?

  Oh, no shit.

• 3:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, in the middle of West Virginia and a big compound and you should see his. He's got like, if you got a half pipe, he's got like a ten pike.

• 3:12Danny Jones?

  He's got a full skate park in there.

• 3:14Speaker 03

  Full blown.

• 3:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 3:15Speaker 03

  Full blown. You know, but I, I mean, I don't know. I don't know if him and I, see you and I can jive a little bit, you know, but I was really nervous there.

• 3:23Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 3:24Speaker 03

  Well, because it was very political and I'm not that political, you know, and I think my buddy, um, Alex Stein got me booked on there and they had me on. Oh, listen, great dude, great dude, big, big audience, smart. You know what I think? Cause I think he's so fucking smart that he that he like, I felt stupid, you know, you know, I mean, he's so fucking so, so smart.

• 3:46Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, he's a super smart political G. He's, he's really into the political stuff.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  And this mother does like six shows a day.

• 3:55Danny Jones?

  Does he really?

• 3:55Speaker 03

  He does like Tim Poole I R L, then Tim Poole Uncensored.

• 3:59Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah, he's got all those different shows.

• 4:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, then he's got, so when you pull into his compound, he's got this one house that's on the outside of the compound and it's got two studios in it for two different shows. And then he's got this big warehouse where the full pike and the skateboard deals and

• 4:16Danny Jones?

  The craziest thing to me about Tim Poole is like I've always seen his interviews, like his Rogan interviews and his podcast, obviously his podcast, which is incredible, but um, the first time I ever saw him like not, you know, usually when you see, when you're used to seeing people talking on talk shows, you only see him from like here up and you're used to that. And when you see him from head to toe, it's kind of like throws you off.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, and he always keeps the same, he's got that same cap, with that same, same gimmick on.

• 4:40Danny Jones?

  The full, I saw a video of him on Instagram, like a year or so ago of skateboarding and he rips on a skateboard.

• 4:47Speaker 03

  Oh dude, he rips like you wouldn't believe. He was, they were just over there, when I was there, they were just kind of like maybe screwing around a little bit and he was going down these rails.

• 4:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 4:58Speaker 03

  You know, and then here's my fat ass, who, you know, if I got on a skateboard, I'd break it. You know, and I'm like, look at all these skinny guys over here, half piking and stuff. I am so out of my element, you know what I'm saying? I mean, where's the buffet?

• 5:10Danny Jones?

  Yeah, dude.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  Good dude though, man. Good dude. You know, I've not done a lot, I've not done a lot of podcasts.

• 5:15Danny Jones?

  I know you haven't.

• 5:15Speaker 03

  Just you, um, Tim Poole and I don't think I've done anybody else really. Maybe a couple little ones, like, I think I did something.

• 5:26Danny Jones?

  Well, the funny thing is, is you had the king of podcasts on your radio show years ago.

• 5:32Speaker 03

  Joe Rogan.

• 5:33Danny Jones?

  Which is incredible.

• 5:34Speaker 03

  Oh, what a good dude.

• 5:34Danny Jones?

  It was such a good interview too. He's talking about like doing DMT.

• 5:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, licking frogs.

• 5:39Danny Jones?

  Licking frogs. And he's like, what, what did he say? He, he described himself as um, the conduit between the stoners and the juice heads or something like that.

• 5:48Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. And you know, I didn't even really, you know, I, I knew, you know, knew of Joe from, from, was it Survivor or no, Fear, Fear Factor. And then I knew his standup, you know, this is in 2008. Little did I know that, you know, he would come on to be one, you know, the, the largest in the space.

• 6:06Danny Jones?

  Did you ever think that, even when you had him on?

• 6:07Speaker 03

  He told me. So when, when we were done, we, and at that time I was doing two shows a day. I was doing mornings on the bone, which was syndicated on like 19 or 20 stations terrestrially. And then we would take a four hour break and then we would do afternoons on Sirius XM. So as I'm walking, as I'm walking Joe out. Joe's like, hey, man, what you should do is after this show, this, this, this uncensored Sirius XM show, you should sit down for like 45 minutes, you and the boys and just bullshit about anything, you know, any, anything that you didn't get to on this show, just bullshit and put it up as a podcast, make it a look kind of exclusive for people to, to get, but

• 6:49Speaker 03

  make it different from what you're doing. And I was like, Joe, man, I'm so tired now. And you know, I, I got a family and everything. I don't even know anything about this podcasting or whatever. He's like, just, just think about it. Man, was I stupid for not listening? You know, I should, I should have jumped right on it, but he's got, he, what, what a, what a brilliant mind and what a, what a, what a great career. And, uh, you know,

• 7:11Danny Jones?

  The crazy thing about him to me is that he's like, not only is he at the top of not just podcasting, I mean, he's at the top of media and he gets more downloads and views than all media combined, but he also is the number one, like he does out of all the podcasts. I think he puts out more than any other podcaster. He literally records four or five days a week.

• 7:30Speaker 03

  He's, he's, he has got, he's, he's, he's pop culture now, meaning like if you want your message delivered, or you are, want to know what's going on in the world, or want to be able to think outside the media box, the, you know, the standard, then you go to Joe and everybody, I mean, the numbers are astronomical and he has become, you know, I worked for Howard, you know, I, I, and I don't ever speak illy, illy of Howard, but he is the king of media. I mean, Joe Rogan is the new, I don't know if he's the new, I think it's been, it's been, it's been that way for a while, but he also still is still just an absolute rock star on, on UFC, you know, I mean, uh, he doesn't really need

• 8:13Speaker 03

  that if, you know, if he didn't, if he, but he must, he just absolutely loves it. And I mean, you know, he is, he's, he sells out, you know, arenas for his comedy. So, and then, and he made the best decision of all was getting the out of California and going to Texas. So God bless him, man. What a good dude.

• 8:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah, man. He is, he is absolutely on fire. Um.

• 8:36Danny Jones?

  But like for you, what has it been like, because you were the, you were the equivalent of, I mean, you weren't like Howard Stern level, but you were like top, top.

• 8:46Speaker 03

  Actually during my, when we were at, if you, when you, I know that you've watched the documentary.

• 8:52Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 8:52Speaker 03

  And there was a time where my call volume was larger than Howard's when I worked with him. Now at that time, they didn't have a way to gauge, they didn't have Nielsen or Arbitron or anything, and they still don't. But they didn't have a way, the only way they would gauge how good a show was doing was how many attempted callers. Now I don't know if that's the right way to gauge or not, but at one time I had more people attempting to call my show than Howard. Now you can attribute that a little bit to maybe mornings versus afternoons. People in afternoon might be more likely to call than in the morning when they're first waking up. But you know, my, one, one of the reasons why Sirius XM got rid of me is because I posed a threat to Howard.

• 9:36Danny Jones?

  Oh, really?

• 9:37Speaker 03

  And if you watch the documentary, you know, my agent says, you know, why would Howard want me on his channel? When, for pennies on the dollar, because Howard, Howard's manager, Don Buckwald, who's now dead, told Tim Sabian, who was the president of Howard's channels, when they were getting rid of me. Um, they're like, listen, management at Sirius XM is going to use Bubba against us in negotiation. Why do we, why, why can, why do we have to pay Howard a hundred million when we can pay Bubba five million? And get nearly the same audience. So that's why I got offed from Sirius XM. That's, a lot of people don't know that, and I've not told that story anywhere.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  But you know, I, I, I have validation through the guy, Tim Sabian, who ran the channels, who was the program director of Howard 101 and was part of getting me fired. And that was one of the reasons why they fired me.

• 10:39Danny Jones?

  That's such a crazy thing how the that media landscaped the the just like the talk media landscape has shifted so much because it that that sounds like such a petty way of doing business like it's such a a weird sort of

• 10:52Speaker 03

  But you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars now. So you're talking about like they're paying me a million five.

• 10:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 10:58Speaker 03

  And they're paying Howard a hundred million. So I mean, you know, there's a there's a lot at stake there. So Howard.

• 11:04Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 11:04Speaker 03

  People Howard's agent needs to protect that hundred million.

• 11:07Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 11:08Speaker 03

  And he's got a guy in here, some white trash motherfucker from Florida that's doing it for a million five.

• 11:13Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 11:13Speaker 03

  And he's afraid management's gonna come to him and say, listen, Buckwald, we got num nuts bubba doing it for a million five. Why do we want to pay Howard a hundred million?

• 11:21Danny Jones?

  Right. I guess.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  And so it's such a it's the the numbers are the reason why it's so cutthroat is because the numbers are astronomical.

• 11:28Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 11:28Speaker 03

  As far as what Howard was making.

• 11:30Danny Jones?

  Right. And that all of the viewers are on this one specific platform during this one specific time. And it's a subscription thing. It's not it's it's it's the complete opposite of YouTube, basically.

• 11:42Speaker 03

  And and it and it's not nearly as sexy now as it was then, you know, in oh.

• 11:47Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 11:48Speaker 03

  In oh, seven, oh, eight, you know, Sirius XM was about the sexiest person on the dashboard. You know, as far as dashboard real estate. I mean, you know, you it wasn't as easy to pipe your Google Play or, you know, your Apple iTunes through your dashboard as it is now. I mean, every car now is it, you know, you Bluetooth in and you're and there you are.

• 12:09Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 12:09Speaker 03

  I can listen to you guys. I can listen to Rogan. I can listen to any, you know, Adam Carolla. I can listen to anybody. I don't have to listen. I don't have to be hooked up to a signal per se. I just have to have cell service.

• 12:21Danny Jones?

  Exactly.

• 12:21Speaker 03

  And so now, what Sirius XM was in oh, seven, oh, eight, super sexy on the dashboard has now become right here. You gotta have you gotta deliver your content to to to this device in order to be relevant.

• 12:36Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  I mean, you know, whether it's YouTube, you know, whether it's podcasting, but most of it's aggregated through a cell phone.

• 12:43Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm. And the when you have to do when you have to. Publish all of your stuff on social media and your show has to live on social media and be in competition with millions of other shows that are doing the same exact thing.

• 12:55Speaker 03

  And there's so much shit out there. I'm looking for the, remember back in the nineties where they had the dot com bubble burst? So they had the dot com craze and everybody had a dot com. They had wipe my ass dot com. They had every dot com you can think of and, and these dot coms were making, you know, lots of money. Well, then, then it burst. Then the dot com bubble burst and only the good punched through. Only the relevant stuff on the dot com world punched through. I'm, I don't know if I'll be around, but I think that that's going to happen with podcasting. I think podcasting is becoming so watered down and so much shit out there that I think eventually all

• 13:40Speaker 03

  these people that are producing shit are going to quit because they don't realize that making money in podcasting is not as easy as just two people bullshitting. It's, it's, it's a slow burn. It's the right guest. It's the right host. It's the right, you know, it's aggregating through the right channels. It's the right algorithm. It's the right hashtag. It's the right everything. And the average person who gets fired from radio or whatever thinks that they can just start or, or anybody that has a hundred dollars can go rent a podcast studio and they think instantaneously they're going to have a huge audience. And so I, I, podcasting, I still thinks needs the kind

• 14:21Speaker 03

  of cleanse the shit moment because there's just so much shit out there.

• 14:26Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 14:27Speaker 03

  You know, but it does also, when you are good and you have a following, it makes it, you know, it makes it that much more special when you do have the numbers to back up a good podcast.

• 14:37Danny Jones?

  Right. And the other way is so much different than radio is that like, it's not like if I get a million views and I, there's another guy who has a podcast next door to me who gets a million, million views. Like it's not like, hey, man, I want to come promote you or, or talk about your show. It's not like I have to give up any of my listeners for you to get more listeners.

• 14:59Speaker 03

  Right. Right. Podcasting's more gentlemanly than terrestrial cutthroat radio.

• 15:04Danny Jones?

  Exactly.

• 15:04Speaker 03

  So it's like, you know,

• 15:05Danny Jones?

  It's not like, yeah, yeah.

• 15:06Speaker 03

  It's more like gentlemanly. It's more like, um, The way it used to be back in the old times when you tried to help out your neighbor, rather than to, you know, being at war with your neighbor.

• 15:18Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 15:18Speaker 03

  You want to help your guy, if you think he's cool, or, you know, because you've established your crowd and they're going to come, they're not leaving your brand, you know, but if you can help a buddy out who's cool and can bring something to the table, podcasting tends to be more like that than any other forum of media. You know, like terrestrial radio, it's all about cutthroat, man. If I'm losing, if I'm, if my listeners not listening to me.

• 15:42Danny Jones?

  There's only X amount of listeners and you're not sharing them.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  There's only seventeen, eighteen, nineteen radio stations and I gotta have that guy on my channel or I'm.

• 15:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  You know, whereas podcasting seems to be the buddy system a little bit, a little bit, you know, now there's people that have huge numbers that aren't going to help the guy that's got, you know, three hundred and fourteen followers, you know, but, but.

• 16:01Danny Jones?

  But you have the standout people like Joe Rogan, who's like the number one in the world who has nobodies on his show.

• 16:07Speaker 03

  Right.

• 16:07Danny Jones?

  Literally nobodies, just because he wants to help them and because he thinks that they have some sort of.

• 16:11Speaker 03

  And they're interesting.

• 16:12Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  I think that's what Joe really cares the most about, you know, I don't think Joe looks at numbers as much as he looks, looks at the message, you know, what, what, you know, because he'll get into some deep shit and it's really interesting and the guy is not really even, uh, you know, promoting his channel or promoting what he's got going, he's just very interesting and I think Joe's probably one of the best at sniffing through what's good and what's not.

• 16:36Danny Jones?

  Right. Hey guys, if you're not already subscribed, please hammer the subscribe button below and hit the like button on the video. Back to the show. Um, so about, I don't know, was it three months ago? Shane sent me the video, the first video I think you ever published about Hogan being in sick or being in the hospital.

• 16:56Speaker 03

  I was the first and only guy to go on, on, out on a limb and say that he was going to die, June eighteenth.

• 17:02Danny Jones?

  June eighteenth, I remember, I remember.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  I sent that right to Dan.

• 17:05Danny Jones?

  He sent it to me the day he posted it and I'm like, Bubba is losing his shit. I'm like, Bubba is just doing anything he can to get you now.

• 17:11Speaker 03

  Everybody thought I was. He's just trying to get some traction. I heard it all, clout chaser, clickbaiter, irrelevant, you know, desperate, the whole nine yards, they don't realize that I had some very good in sources. Now I've befriended Brooke recently, but Brooke wasn't my resource. I had, I had, I had people within the hospital, you know.

• 17:37Speaker 03

  You know when you're on to something and and a lot of times then you kind of have the the Johnny come lately effect. So if you're on to something and you're first on a particular topic, then a lot of times that will lead to other people jumping on and giving you intel as well. Yes. So I actually even had the valet guy at Morton Plant that was calling me and letting me know the comings and goings as to who's going where. Clearwater? Yeah. Wow. So I mean, that's where Hogan was the his last stint was at Morton Plant. Prior to that, he was at Tampa General, but. So how did this start?

• 18:18Speaker 03

  Um, it it it started with um, a uh, email to the show on my show and it just said, hey, I work at Tampa General.

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• 19:28Speaker 03

  Um, please do not say my name, but Hogan, Hulk Hogan, your friend um is not doing well. And that's all it was. And at that point, the guy, I should have probably said the person. So I, I mean, but I mean, at this point Hogan's dead, but the guy gave me his information to call him. So I did my show the next day. This is like June 16th. And I did my show the next day and I called the dude and he's like, listen, Hogan is

• 20:00Speaker 04

  On air?

• 20:01Speaker 03

  No, no, off air.

• 20:01Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 20:02Speaker 03

  Completely off air.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  And I didn't go on air till June 18th. That was the first day. And so I, I called this dude up. I tried to vet him, you know, where do you work? What do you do at Tampa General? You know, like, why would you be privy to this? I was more, you know, I was more skeptical than anything. I'm just, I just wasn't there like, I just wasn't there like, you know, just tell me some information for me to go to air with because

• 20:26Speaker 04

  That's dangerous, right?

• 20:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean

• 20:28Speaker 04

  Put false info out there.

• 20:29Speaker 03

  Hogan's, trust me, I know Hogan's litigious and his family's litigious as I'm, you know, going through a federal gag order right now with the deal. And um, so I knew I just couldn't come out. The, the, the information the guy has given me is like blowing my mind. He's like, you don't understand. They're calling family members, telling them to get their ass to the hospital because you may not see Hogan again. I mean, he is on all these, you know, all these machines and he's having problems with complications from heart valves. And the guy's going, the guy's all over the place. So I, I sat on it for a day. This was like on the, this would be the, I came out on the 18th.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  So this would have been like, maybe like the 15th or 16th. And I sat on it and on a day, I sat on it. And I tried to get another source to verify and I couldn't, I couldn't. And so I start looking at Hogan's friends and what they're saying and Jimmy Hart's like saying, oh, Hogan's great. And this kind of stuff.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  Yeah. I, I had one of my, one of my producers called Hogan's um, uh, His restaurant, Hogan's Hangout, whatever the hell it's called, and asked if he was gonna be at that karaoke that Monday night. And they're like, no, he's not gonna be here. Uh, he's, you know, out of town or something. Well, I knew he wasn't out of town. I knew he was in the hospital. I did know that. So I just kinda took a leap of faith with what the guy told me. And I got on the air and I think the actual verbiage was if you do some sniffing around at a local hospital here, and I tried to use everything in radio that I've been taught for 40 years on how to cover your ass. In my opinion, And cover your sources.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  And cover my sources. So I said, if you do some sniffing around in a local hospital, it's my opinion. I don't know it to be true. But it's on my opinion and I think, and I've been told, and again, I don't know it to be true, that Hogan's in a hospital here locally in Tampa and he's not doing well. And I think family sources have, family has been called to come in and say their, their goodbyes. So with that, I got more and more brazen and I continued to get more and more information from this one particular source. But then I got another source. And my other source is like, hey, I heard you

• 22:56Speaker 03

  saying this about Hogan and here's what I know because, you know, I'm close to the source as well. And it just kind of bred itself. So I got more and more brazen. So where I started, I was like, in broadcasting, if you say something wrong, malicious, um, uh, um, slanderous, liable about somebody, the first, the first thing that goes down is you get a 770 notice. And so like if I said something about Danny Jones and it was just completely, you know, untrue, like Danny Jones is natural.

• 23:38Speaker 03

  Danny Jones is on only Fred Flintstone vitamins and that's it. Well, that's a fucking blatant lie. I'm suing. Exactly. No, but if I said something like really bad, like, you know, Danny Jones is a kid toucher. I mean, I'm talking about something really bad, like, like really. I went to the island. Right, you, you're hanging out with Epstein, you know, so, but if I said something completely just 100% false, defamatory, slanderous, liable, then your attorney would be sending me a 7-7 notice, which means what I said was untrue, and you're putting me on notice to retract that, and it's, it's, you know, or I'm gonna be, you know, I have, I have one shot. Because he's an assist. It's, it's, it's, it's wor- it's more than that, because it's- You gotta backtrack.

• 24:21Speaker 03

  Not only do I have to stop, but I have to retract what I said and correct what I said. So that's what a 770 notice is, that's just from being in the business so long, so I knew at that point, I get on the air and I'm like, listen Hogan's people, out there, if Hogan isn't in a hospital bed and he's doing okay, and he's not gravely sick, uh, then send me a 770, shut me up, make me be quiet, because what I'm hearing is, he's not doing well at all, and here's this and this and this and this, and every day I would say, send me a 770, if I'm wrong, well, a lawyer can't send you a 770 if you're not wrong.

• 25:03Speaker 03

  If you're not wrong, they can't make you shut up, they can't say you're being slanderous or liable or anything like that, they just gotta take it, and they're, and they get real mad that they got a leak within their little world, and so I just kept going on and on, and then I got intel that they transported him in the middle of the night, um, he was at Morton Plant, from at that point, they transferred him in the middle of the night over the weekend. How long was he at Morton Plant for? Um, I, I don't know, I don't know, I, I, I think about a week. Okay. Um, I don't know exactly how long he was at Morton Plant, but I do know when they transported him, they took him home like on a Friday via ambulance, and he, and he

• 25:43Speaker 03

  was doing well through the weekend, um, Eric Bischoff saw him on Monday, Jimmy Hart saw him on Wednesday, and he died on Thursday.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  And, uh, you know, I had reports that he was home resting. They didn't send any machines home with him. Uh, they just sent a hospital bed home with him so he could be more comfortable. So at that point, they, I think the hospital assumed, one or two things either they assumed. Either one, he's too far gone and we can't help him. And I'm only assuming this. I don't know it to be true, but two, he's getting better and he's gonna, he might maybe pull through this because they didn't have any ventilation. They didn't have a breathing machine. They didn't have him trached. You know, they didn't have him on any, any extravagant machines. He just had this little, um, like he had a respiratory therapist come in once a day, once a day and do respiratory exercises with him and that's all he had. And,

• 26:38Danny Jones?

  So he was like fully conscious and awake and?

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Hundred percent, hundred percent, you know, um, eating, um, you know, and then Wednesday night, he went to bed. He was sleeping in a recliner and they're, and he was sleeping in a recliner in the, in the, in the living room. That's where he was most comfortable. And, you know, um, Sky, his wife, found him dead in the morning. Uh, I think there was a respiratory therapist and another male nurse there, reporting for their duty that morning. And I think when they got there at nine, 11 or whatever time, they had found Terry dead and he was supposedly dead, dead, like,

• 27:21Danny Jones?

  In his sleep it happened.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  Like when they, they gave him two shots of Narcan in case there was an opioid overdose. I, I thought, I speculated on the air that it was, that he had taken too many pain pills and that he, you know, I mean, we've lost 38 wrestlers in the last, you know, 10 years over people, you know, opioids and alcohol.

• 27:39Danny Jones?

  And stuff like that.

• 27:40Speaker 03

  So I thought maybe that was, and I was on the air heavy with that, but then, uh, you know, Brooke came down to Clearwater and met with the medical examiners and later, you know, pretty much, uh, was satisfied with their investigation. So that's when I kinda laid off, you know, I thought maybe,

• 27:59Danny Jones?

  She was satisfied with it?

• 28:00Speaker 03

  Brooke was, yeah. So at that point I kinda laid off and just let him rest. Rest in peace and you know, knowing my documentary is coming out and you know, and like everybody's like, oh, you timed your documentary to uh, to coincide with Hogan's death. I've been trying to get this documentary out since the last time I was, I mean, what was that, two years ago when I saw you?

• 28:18Danny Jones?

  Yeah, you were talking about it.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  We were talking about it two years ago and I had the wrong filmmaker at the time. I had a guy who, I had a, a group of people that were putting it together. It's not my documentary, it's theirs. I don't have any ownership in it at all. Um, and so I just felt two years ago, we weren't, I just, they just didn't have the glue to tell the story. And we got a local guy who has had some stuff published on Netflix. And he, uh, named Ian Longen and he was kind of the difference maker. He really, really knew the story and he put, he was the glue to kind of put this very convoluted story and very long and kind of hard to understand story together.

• 29:02Speaker 03

  And, uh, you know, we premiered, uh, last Friday and we're dropping today, uh, on, um, on Amazon, Google Play, and then of course, Apple TV.

• 29:11Danny Jones?

  It's a great documentary. It's a long one too, frigging almost three hours.

• 29:15Speaker 03

  No, two, two thirty, two twenty-nine.

• 29:18Danny Jones?

  Two twenty-nine.

• 29:19Speaker 03

  Two twenty-nine. I wish, I watched it, you know, at, at, at the premiere and I think we could have cut out fifteen or twenty minutes. I think we could have, I think we were redundant and maybe repetitive on some things. Um, but you know, it's such a, it's such a long story. Initially, they wanted us to do, we wanted to do three episodes of like forty-eight minutes. And then when we started submitting it to the aggregators, the documentary game is such a dirty game. It's not just you make a, you make a doc and send it and they, you know, you have to get it. You have to send it to pub, you have to send it to, to copyright and fair use attorneys. You gotta get insurance on it. Then you have to get an aggregator that's gonna publish it to these different platforms.

• 30:03Speaker 03

  And so it's, it's a, it's a, it's a pretty quite, quite, quite a long process. So, when we were giving it to the aggregators, they're like, listen, we're not gonna, you're not gonna be able to have a trailer for three episodes. The only way you can have a trailer is if you, if you would combine them. And we're like, oh, it's gonna make for a pretty long, long, you know, deal. So that's why it ended up.

• 30:27Danny Jones?

  Why wouldn't you be able to make a trailer for the whole series?

• 30:30Speaker 03

  I I don't know, maybe you have to be a bigger slinger dick, slinging dick than me in order to get a trailer for a three part series, but they wouldn't. They wouldn't give us a trailer and I'm like, listen, the trailer is everything. You've got it. I mean, I I determine whether I'm gonna watch something based on the trailer.

• 30:45Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  I mean, right? That or the thumbnail.

• 30:48Danny Jones?

  Right, right, right.

• 30:50Speaker 03

  I mean, even when I'm looking at porn, I look at the thumbnail and if it's, you know.

• 30:53Danny Jones?

  That looks good.

• 30:54Speaker 03

  If it's granny, no. And if it's some some hot MILF, yes, you know, I mean, it's thumbnail and trailers was what determine everything.

• 31:01Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm. Yeah, that's true. Um, so going back to the uh, going back to the the Hogan things, what was the actual? Like catalyst that sent him in there in the first place?

• 31:15Speaker 03

  Well, he of a he he had a heart valve replacement and he didn't have problems with that. But he had what they call, he had a neck, a neck and cervical um, operation and that requires them to put a plate. Behind your, in the back of your neck with eight screws that go into this plate. That that stabilizes the back of your neck and he was was supposed to be bedridden four to six weeks. So after you have this cervical neck fusion, you're supposed to be in a what they call a Vegas brace. And that's just this basically the middle of those those those foam rubber kind of gimmicks.

• 31:59Speaker 03

  You're supposed to be in one of those for two months and you're supposed to be taking it easy. And Hogan goes and gets this sur- surgery. There's eight screws in the back of his neck. They have bone cement and everything in there and it's a very fragile equation. And what does he do? He's being pushed by his beer company. He's being pushed by his new wrestling federation. And instead of spending four to six weeks bed rest, he spends forty six hours at home. And there's already out in Milwaukee and Green Bay and butt Michigan doing these three and four hour personal appearances for his beer.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  And he starts his, his neck operation doesn't really have an opportunity to fuse and to heal itself. Because you know, you're sleeping in hotel bedrooms and you're standing up for Hogan's one big thing is when he would do an autograph session, he would never sit. He always prided himself on standing because it made him bigger than life. You know, you, you know, he's, you know, so it made, it makes you bigger than life.

• 33:04Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 33:04Speaker 03

  Rather than just sitting. So he, you know, that was his gimmick. And so he's standing for three and four hours at a time. And he had a, and Terry had a huge head. Yeah. I mean, his head probably weighed forty pounds.

• 33:16Danny Jones?

  Yeah, he had a big ass head.

• 33:17Speaker 03

  Big ass head.

• 33:18Danny Jones?

  Big head, big star.

• 33:19Speaker 03

  Yeah. And so had, had he listened to his, uh, his doctors and not been on the road, you know, forty six hours after a major operation, he probably would have been in better situation.

• 33:33Danny Jones?

  I wonder why he needed that operation in the first place. It's not like he was like very active.

• 33:37Speaker 03

  You know, and his, in his family, I've, I've been told by pretty good sources that his family actually uh, argued with him and said, Terry, just live with the pain because they knew, they knew the complication rate of this particular aggressive procedure. They knew.

• 33:52Danny Jones?

  And he had already had a ton of neck surgeries.

• 33:53Speaker 03

  Oh, he had a ton of, ton of back, ton of back. Never really with his neck much. So, but his neck.

• 33:59Danny Jones?

  And they go through the front?

• 34:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, they go through the front.

• 34:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah, he had neck surgery.

• 34:03Speaker 03

  He had, and he, like, he, he had numbness in his hands.

• 34:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 34:06Speaker 03

  And, and stuff like that. And, and.

• 34:08Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I know. He would tell me all the times, like, I can't even feel my fingers.

• 34:11Speaker 03

  Right. And so most of his family, from Nick to Brooke to Sky, they were telling him, Terry, just live, you've lived, you know, you're, you're seventy one years old, you've lived with having numbness in your fingers, you know, don't get this neck surgery. Don't get it.

• 34:29Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  It's, it's, we've talked to the doctors, it's very risky and you're not going to stay, you're not going to sit still the way you're supposed to. So don't do it. So he instantaneously now gets off the road and he has complications with this, with this procedure because he didn't do what they told him to. And that was kind of the downward spiral.

• 34:51Danny Jones?

  And how, how is that connected with the valve replacement?

• 34:54Speaker 03

  I, I don't know that it was.

• 34:56Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay.

• 34:56Speaker 03

  I don't know that it was. I. They had to go back in and do a revision on the next surgery. And you have to understand now you're under again. You know, and anytime you go in or under anesthesia, they, you know, they make you sign those forms that you could die. I mean, if you just go in for a, you know, colonoscopy, you know, and if they put you under, they're going to make you sign a form because you're at risk of, of, of dying.

• 35:19Danny Jones?

  You used to be the guy that had to go in with them during your surgeries.

• 35:22Speaker 03

  I actually, when we were really rolling hard, one of the procedures I went into was in Buffalo. Dr. Rapishi did a half knee on him and Hogan was so worried about, because he was such a star. And he was so worried about.

• 35:37Danny Jones?

  Taking pictures of his dick when he's asleep?

• 35:38Speaker 03

  People taking pictures of his dick that, that I would. And so I would scrub in. And so you got to understand, you know, in order for a hospital or a doctor to even allow this is mind boggling. Because most, you know, most hospitals and doctors, you're going to say, hey, I'm going to bring my buddy in with me. They're like, no, you're not. But he was Hulk Hogan. People made exceptions for him. So I would scrub in and have to do the, do the five minute nail scan. Meanwhile, I'm just in the corner, making sure they're not taking pictures of his dick. I'm not touching the body. I'm not, I'm, I'm from here to the door from him, but I'm just making sure that, you know. I did that three different times.

• 36:18Speaker 03

  Um, but, um, I, I, I don't know that the neck surgery necessarily caused his death. Um, you know, they say he died of a, of an, of a heart attack with the complications of the heart valve. Um, it also was disclosed that he had leukemia.

• 36:36Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  At the time.

• 36:37Danny Jones?

  Out of left field.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  Which is, which is blood cancer. And I, you know, Brooke, I've talked to Brooke extensively and that was news to her. Uh, and news to, news to everybody. Nobody, nobody knew that, that he was dealing with that. And, and people don't even know that he knew it at the time.

• 36:55Danny Jones?

  I mean, it was certainly, uh, obvious that he didn't look well in the last few, in the last few months of his life.

• 37:02Speaker 03

  Friends, he looked really gaunt.

• 37:03Danny Jones?

  Frail.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. And he, um. You know, it, it, he did. And, and now see at the RNC though, he looked pretty good.

• 37:12Danny Jones?

  He did.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  And then from the RNC to where we ended up, he went, just had a downward spiral. And I think that that's where at the RNC, I don't know if he had his neck hardware done at that time or not. But it seems like the neck hardware complication is what spiraled him down to looking like the way he did on Fox and Friends. And the other thing is, I think they were working and literally the expression, working him to death. I think they were working him to death. I mean, he was, he was working, he was.

• 37:44Danny Jones?

  I want you to have enough money though. Like, why? Why? You're that, you're, how old was he? Eighty?

• 37:48Speaker 03

  You know, he's seventy one because he, oh, listen, I hate to talk bad about my former friend, but because he's a, and he's the, one of the biggest narcissists that you'll ever meet in your entire life. He always had to be on the go. He always had to be the center of attention. Uh, there was his family and other good people telling him, Terry, you got, you've won sixty some million dollars from this sex tape.

• 38:10Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 38:10Speaker 03

  You know, you, you got twenty five million dollars in properties. You got every Plymouth and Mopar and collector car you could ever want. You got three memorabilia shops. You got a restaurant and a bar. You got everything you could ever want. More money than you could spend.

• 38:29Danny Jones?

  So much.

• 38:30Speaker 03

  Sleep in, go to the gym, jack your dick. I don't give a.

• 38:35Danny Jones?

  All right.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  But you don't, you don't need to be in Sheboygan, Wisconsin at four thirty, meeting fucking three hundred and cheese heads. So they'll, they'll buy ten cases of beer.

• 38:45Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 38:46Speaker 03

  Like, stop.

• 38:47Danny Jones?

  Beer was already in Publix. Like, what more do you need to do, bro?

• 38:49Speaker 03

  Great. He had great distribution with his beer.

• 38:52Danny Jones?

  I've never actually had it. I would like to try it.

• 38:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I haven't, I haven't had. I heard it's very, I heard it's kind of a little thicker Miller Lite is what I heard, but I heard it was pretty good. Um, I don't know what this, I, I know that right after he died, there was a run on, you know, people trying to get it. I don't know if, if, if they've restocked. That's a story in itself. Um, he originally had a deal with Anheuser-Busch. And which is owned by what they think InBev now owned by like a Danish company. And he had a deal with with one of the original Bushes. You know, are the the Bush family still has a lot to do with it and he had a deal to do of, um, you know, a beer, a Hogan type beer with with one of the Bushes.

• 39:35Speaker 03

  And two of the story I've been told, um, two of the highest ranking people underneath the Bush guy. Stole Terry away with a better deal. Quit Anheuser-Busch and started the Terry beer, the Hogan beer. Yeah, that's, that's what I was told.

• 39:54Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  And I think if you research it, you'll find that.

• 39:56Danny Jones?

  Such a, such a crazy world and he was just like constantly, you know, since I, since I met him. Which would have been, I mean, I, I mean, since I started working with him, which would have been, I don't remember what year that would have been. It was during the, the, uh, the hostamania stuff when he was doing the hosting company thing.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  Right.

• 40:13Danny Jones?

  Um, shooting all those commercials. It was just like.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  How did that do? Did that do anything?

• 40:17Danny Jones?

  I, I, I think it ended up dying.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  Right.

• 40:19Danny Jones?

  It, or I don't know what, I don't know why they stopped doing it. But, um, I think the hosting, the whole web hosting like industry consolidated. And, uh, it just wasn't, I don't know, it wasn't financially viable anymore. So they just kind of.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  Right. That's not a sexy space anyway.

• 40:35Danny Jones?

  No, yeah, hosting.

• 40:36Speaker 03

  You know, Hogan needs to be in.

• 40:38Danny Jones?

  But we went to a bunch of like, uh, uh, Vegas. Even with flair, I was, I went to a bunch of like, I, I, I, all these like crazy, like little web conventions out in, uh, in Las Vegas, we went to and he would sit there and he would sit there all day signing autographs people and like. And, uh, you know, uh, I think that, I think that just general industry kind of like.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  Well, Hogan needs to be in a public space and hosting is not a public space. You know, I mean, you got stream guys now and you got some major players, you know, A, AWS, you got.

• 41:09Danny Jones?

  No one cares about websites.

• 41:10Speaker 03

  Nobody gives a about who's hosting your website.

• 41:12Danny Jones?

  Exactly.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  I mean, you know, you go ask 90% of the, the, go daddy. That's what the fuck they're gonna go daddy. I mean, you know, they're, they're the Walmart of hosting.

• 41:20Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 41:21Speaker 03

  And I don't even know that they host. They'll just build it for you and, and get your domain, but like Hogan needs to be in, in sexy. Hogan needs to be in a space that a white trash dude from Indiana is gonna be in. Like my shirt says, the finest strain of Indiana white trash.

• 41:36Danny Jones?

  Beautiful.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  But that's his P1, meaning his number one target audience is probably a 55 year old male.

• 41:45Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  That's, so if a 55 year old white male likes whatever product you have, then maybe, maybe Terry was good for your product.

• 41:55Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  Other than that, you know, Terry, Terry doesn't need to be in the hosting business.

• 42:00Danny Jones?

  Well, I heard that his, uh, his biggest regret as far as like promoting products go was the grill. Cause George Foreman got it, right?

• 42:09Speaker 03

  There for that.

• 42:09Danny Jones?

  Oh, were you?

• 42:10Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. He was taking his kids to St. Cecilia, uh, school and this guy, this guy who brokers, um, products call, calls him and says, listen, I need an answer now. I got a blender and I got a grill. And Hogan goes, you know, like, what do you mean? Like, what kind of grill? It's this grill where it's slanted and you put your hamburger or your chicken on it and it slides, the grease slides down into this tray. And Hogan goes, give me the blender. I, I, I do, I do protein shakes and, and shit like that. So the blender, give me the blender. So they did the Hulk Hogan blender, which was this fucking

• 42:54Speaker 03

  piece of shit blender that. Pull up the Hulk Hogan blender. And, and then he, he, they actually, it was his choice before they went to George Foreman. George Foreman got the grill by default.

• 43:06Danny Jones?

  He got it by default.

• 43:07Speaker 03

  Because Hogan picked the fucking blender.

• 43:10Danny Jones?

  Oh.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  And, and Hogan told, he's told the story.

• 43:12Danny Jones?

  I've heard him tell it, yeah.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  He's told the story. If he just would have paid attention.

• 43:16Danny Jones?

  The thunder mixer.

• 43:17Speaker 03

  Look, that's what the he got. And and and George, I think George made what 300 million dollars? I mean, pull up what George Foreman's made on.

• 43:27Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 43:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'd like to see that.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  Like, just.

• 43:29Speaker 04

  More than he ever could have fathomed in his life.

• 43:31Danny Jones?

  What year was that?

• 43:32Speaker 03

  Oh, God, that would have been like nine.

• 43:34Speaker 04

  Nineties, yeah.

• 43:35Speaker 03

  Ninety six, ninety seven ish, you know, but I was, so I saw him that day. This was in the morning. I saw him that day and he's like, hey, man, I got it. I got a new blender coming out. I go, really? He goes, yeah, some, this dude, you know, Danny McGillicuddy, who represents, represents these products. Um, here we go.

• 43:57Danny Jones?

  George from a grill was used to cook, uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He didn't invent the grill. He was, uh, famous for the, blah, blah, blah. He received 40% share of the profits, which at its peak meant he was earning millions of dollars a month, over 200 million in total.

• 44:11Speaker 03

  200 million. So I see, so I see Hogan and he goes, I got a Blizzender coming out.

• 44:18Speaker 04

  A Blizzender.

• 44:19Speaker 03

  They want, they wanted me to do some stupid grill bullshit, but I got it. It's a Blizzender. So we'll be mixing up our shit really good. I'm like, oh, we didn't even know what the grill was yet. I mean, so we didn't even know if the grill was stupid or not. We just know we had a blender coming, you know? And this blender was cheap bullshit. It couldn't even get through an ice cube. You know, look at, look at, look at the, you know, three little whips down there. Yeah. It was just completely bullshit.

• 44:43Danny Jones?

  Oh, my God, bro. That's, look how small it is.

• 44:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was teeny tiny.

• 44:47Speaker 04

  What is the guy? Can't even put two eggs in there.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  Oh. So I was with him during that deal. We, and, and, and that's, that's always been, that's always been a rib that we've ribbed him for. Yeah. I mean, it was bullshit.

• 44:59Speaker 04

  Look, dude's blown away.

• 45:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Look at those three little wires down there. Hogan, Hogan got the first one. They sent him like 10, right? And he used the first one. He couldn't, it wouldn't even whip up his fucking protein. Like, it wouldn't even whip it up like efficiently.

• 45:14Danny Jones?

  Dude, I remember the grill too. I had one.

• 45:16Speaker 04

  I had one. Everybody had one.

• 45:18Danny Jones?

  I would cook everything on the grill.

• 45:19Speaker 04

  Every single household had one.

• 45:20Danny Jones?

  I would cook corned beef hash on the fucking.

• 45:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, we were cooking burgers on it like it was a fucking miracle grill.

• 45:25Speaker 03

  Not only do we all have one, we've probably had multiple ones.

• 45:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

• 45:29Speaker 03

  Cause they've morphed in, it's morphed into better things, you know, like, you know.

• 45:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, they had like a 2.0.

• 45:35Danny Jones?

  It didn't just target people who were George Foreman friends. My fucking mom bought one.

• 45:38Speaker 04

  George Foreman had nothing to do with the.

• 45:40Danny Jones?

  My mom was a fricking, uh, uh.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  My mom had one. My grandma had one.

• 45:43Danny Jones?

  She was in college for fine art. She was a fine artist and she had a George Foreman.

• 45:47Speaker 03

  She had no clue who George Foreman was. And grill she could keep in her dorm room and whip up a fucking, you know, whatever she wanted to.

• 45:54Danny Jones?

  Exactly, bro. It's just like, these super celebrities just being, you know, just

• 46:02Danny Jones?

  proselytizing all of these products nonstop was just always such a weird thing to me, you know?

• 46:09Speaker 04

  Sales.

• 46:10Danny Jones?

  It's just like, and even now, you know, there's a few guys, like Logan Paul is one of the guys. Now it's all meme coins, all Bitcoin. It's all crypto shit. Crypto scams and, and now you got, you know, uh, Logan Paul.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  But hasn't the NFT, didn't that, didn't that hit the wall pretty much?

• 46:27Danny Jones?

  I mean, yeah, but they're still doing coins, you know?

• 46:30Speaker 03

  Remember for a while.

• 46:31Danny Jones?

  And now you got Trump and all his kids doing their own coins.

• 46:33Speaker 03

  Remember for a while they were doing those metaverse and you could buy a.

• 46:37Speaker 04

  Buy a house in the metaverse.

• 46:39Speaker 03

  In metaverse and a nightclub and all this kind of bullshit and it was gonna be where people go and live their life digitally. And I'm like, if my life is so bad in real life that I gotta go live digitally, it's time to eat a bullet. I'm just telling you that right now. Listen, I'm a nobody here in Tampa, but motherfucker, I'm the king of.

• 46:58Speaker 04

  Meta world.

• 46:59Speaker 03

  Meta world 10. I'm the fucking mayor of mayor. I mean, like, what the fuck, you loser?

• 47:04Danny Jones?

  Yeah, but it might be cool, bubba. What if you could go in there? You could be, you know, you could be six foot six, jacked 20 inch dick slinging it around.

• 47:12Speaker 03

  Jacked up. I mean, I mean, God, since the last time I saw you, I bet you went curl from curling 50 pounds to 150. I mean, look at that motherfucker jacked up.

• 47:19Danny Jones?

  Bro, I've looked the same.

• 47:20Speaker 03

  You gotta start shaving your arms though.

• 47:21Danny Jones?

  I've looked the same. No.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  You gotta shave your arms.

• 47:23Danny Jones?

  What am I gay?

• 47:24Speaker 03

  striations mother

• 47:25Danny Jones?

  what

• 47:26Speaker 03

  striations

• 47:27Danny Jones?

  what the so striations

• 47:28Speaker 03

  striations like I don't have any I'm too fat but

• 47:30Speaker 04

  you see the ripples in your muscles you know

• 47:32Danny Jones?

  oh no I'm not doing that

• 47:33Speaker 03

  look how much about hold on look at your fucking gorilla arm

• 47:37Danny Jones?

  it's not a gorilla arm

• 47:38Speaker 03

  no but first of all

• 47:38Danny Jones?

  it's the same arm it was last time

• 47:39Speaker 03

  it happens to be that you are light haired so that does help that you're light haired

• 47:44Speaker 04

  yeah see the lines

• 47:45Speaker 03

  it's so much it's such a cleaner look when you don't have all that fucking hair there

• 47:50Danny Jones?

  um

• 47:50Speaker 03

  and I'm not even I'm like three days stubble right now but like

• 47:54Danny Jones?

  that's like

• 47:55Speaker 03

  your wife would appreciate it more

• 47:56Danny Jones?

  that's like that yeah we don't do that anymore bubba

• 47:59Speaker 03

  not that you're fisting her but I'm just saying like I mean you know like it's just a better presentation

• 48:04Danny Jones?

  no

• 48:04Speaker 03

  I want what

• 48:05Danny Jones?

  they keep the hair the girl my wife likes hair

• 48:07Speaker 03

  before the show started I gave you a little a little little little tidbit you need you really need to just listen what's the worst it'll grow back shave your arms one time and see if your girl likes it how about your chest you have chest hair

• 48:23Danny Jones?

  I have chest hair yeah yeah

• 48:24Speaker 03

  you don't shave

• 48:25Danny Jones?

  no hell no I like the hair I like the way it looks

• 48:27Speaker 03

  how much you got

• 48:29Speaker 04

  I don't know that would not enough

• 48:31Speaker 03

  see you're a little blonde twink

• 48:33Danny Jones?

  I'm not like super covered in hair I'm not like an Italian meatball

• 48:36Speaker 03

  but if you would shave your arms your wife would really like that

• 48:38Danny Jones?

  no I'm not doing that

• 48:39Speaker 03

  why why is that what you're hard headed about

• 48:41Danny Jones?

  I don't like the way it feels I've shaved them when I was in high school I tried shaving my legs and my arms

• 48:45Speaker 03

  and I didn't say your fucking legs I mean gee now see you fucked it up you fucked a good thing up you went too far you would have stepped if you would have stuck to your arms you've been go

• 48:55Danny Jones?

  my brother

• 48:56Speaker 03

  I don't shave my legs I mean

• 48:58Danny Jones?

  oh right right yeah but my brother when high school was like huge into lifting still is and he would always shave his legs and his arms and uh

• 49:05Speaker 03

  so his arms look good as

• 49:06Danny Jones?

  but I tried it once and I hated the way it felt it feels so weird I can't explain the way it feels but I'm not I don't it's uncomfortable plus you like you know

• 49:13Speaker 03

  you're so hard headed

• 49:14Danny Jones?

  you gotta have a little

• 49:15Speaker 03

  I wonder you're successful because you don't fucking listen I mean I'm just telling you

• 49:19Danny Jones?

  bubba the the the hair is the women like the hair better

• 49:22Speaker 03

  no they don't

• 49:23Danny Jones?

  yes they do

• 49:23Speaker 03

  no okay let me ask you a question what about your bush

• 49:25Danny Jones?

  any woman who's under thirty

• 49:26Speaker 03

  what about your bush my shit's completely down to zero

• 49:28Danny Jones?

  oh I keep it trimmed trimmed

• 49:29Speaker 03

  no no no down to zero right down to zero like a fucking hardwood floor

• 49:33Danny Jones?

  no no no no back in high school yeah but not anymore

• 49:36Speaker 03

  no what do you mean back in high school but not anymore

• 49:38Danny Jones?

  like that was that was in back in high school back in like the two that when we were in high school in the two thousands

• 49:43Speaker 03

  yeah

• 49:44Danny Jones?

  yeah I mean

• 49:44Speaker 03

  so what would change what has changed

• 49:47Danny Jones?

  Uh, I got older.

• 49:49Speaker 03

  You think she wants that?

• 49:50Danny Jones?

  Yeah, she likes the hair.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  Have you asked her?

• 49:52Danny Jones?

  Yeah, she tells me.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  Ever had the discussion?

• 49:54Danny Jones?

  She tells me. She says, I don't, she says, I don't like it when you shave it down to the skin. I like some, I like a little bit of hair down there.

• 50:00Speaker 03

  She likes stubble?

• 50:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 50:01Speaker 03

  When you're blasting her, she gets that razor burn?

• 50:03Danny Jones?

  No, she doesn't like the razor burn. That's why she likes a little bit, a little bit hairy, not the stubble. She likes it longer than stubble.

• 50:09Speaker 03

  Like AstroTurf?

• 50:11Danny Jones?

  Kind of like AstroTurf, yeah.

• 50:13Speaker 04

  Get her on the whole.

• 50:14Speaker 03

  Long broom, you're grass.

• 50:15Danny Jones?

  Yeah, she likes me to braid it, braid it long.

• 50:17Speaker 03

  Bahia, like Bahia.

• 50:19Speaker 04

  She likes it like the golf course. They gotta mow it and cross hatches.

• 50:23Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 50:23Speaker 03

  And all the years of podcasting.

• 50:25Danny Jones?

  Fairway.

• 50:26Speaker 03

  And all the years of podcasts, has a guest ever got you to talk about your pubic hair?

• 50:30Danny Jones?

  Never, you're the first.

• 50:31Speaker 03

  Ever, ever.

• 50:32Danny Jones?

  You're the first, Baba. You're, you're, you're.

• 50:34Speaker 03

  One of one.

• 50:35Danny Jones?

  A rare.

• 50:36Speaker 03

  One of one. It's hot as in here. Can we turn the air down?

• 50:39Danny Jones?

  Yeah, Baba likes it cold. Can we, can we, can we take it down?

• 50:41Speaker 03

  All you skinny guys in here, I mean, give me a break.

• 50:44Danny Jones?

  I forgot you told me that.

• 50:45Speaker 04

  Sweat and caffeine and sweating.

• 50:49Speaker 03

  I, I can't wait for Danny to try my, my.

• 50:51Danny Jones?

  Oh, the new cocktail.

• 50:52Speaker 03

  My, my, content host cocktail.

• 50:56Danny Jones?

  Hmm, because that's, you know.

• 50:58Speaker 03

  You gotta try it and then you gotta text me and be like, yes or no? Like, you know, give me a bearing as to how it is for you.

• 51:05Speaker 04

  We'll, we'll adjust the levels accordingly.

• 51:07Danny Jones?

  Milligrams of Adderall.

• 51:08Speaker 03

  I don't want to be necessarily be talking about this shit on the air.

• 51:11Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay, we'll cut it out.

• 51:12Speaker 03

  I mean, yeah, fuck, I don't want to get everybody, we don't want to get everybody in on the deal.

• 51:16Danny Jones?

  Okay, all right, we won't tell.

• 51:17Speaker 03

  We don't want everybody to be as cool as us.

• 51:18Danny Jones?

  Fifteen milligrams of something and then, uh, a half of another thing.

• 51:22Speaker 03

  Fuck up. God, he doesn't listen when he's supposed to. With arm shaving and shit like, well, look at you though, you're Sasquatch too.

• 51:30Danny Jones?

  We have, he is.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  What happened to you?

• 51:32Danny Jones?

  He's foobar, bro. Tell them the story what happened the other day.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  What happened to you, Country Willie?

• 51:35Danny Jones?

  Shane the other day, Concrete Clem was at a barbecue the other day with his girlfriend and, uh, some dude walked by.

• 51:41Speaker 03

  So white trash. Concrete Clem was at a barbecue with his girlfriend and we're talking to him with an arm sling right now and an Ocala Speedway racetrack t-shirt. I mean, it doesn't get any fucking larghetto than that. I'm just telling you.

• 51:56Danny Jones?

  It doesn't.

• 51:57Speaker 03

  So Concrete Clem is at a barbecue with his girlfriend.

• 52:00Danny Jones?

  He's at a barbecue on the trade winds in St. Pete beach with his girlfriend.

• 52:04Speaker 03

  That spiffs it up a little bit.

• 52:05Danny Jones?

  Okay, let's, let's wait. It gets, it gets so much better.

• 52:08Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 52:08Danny Jones?

  Okay, so his girlfriend's sister, something, some family member of his girlfriend is having a, uh, their four year old's birthday party.

• 52:16Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 52:17Danny Jones?

  Simultaneously, they're there.

• 52:18Speaker 03

  You're doing a family gimmick?

• 52:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:20Speaker 03

  That's really good ass on the backside, too, you know? No, for you can throw that back in old girl's face. Listen, I went to a motherfucking four year old's birthday party for you. How about some head?

• 52:30Speaker 04

  All weekend.

• 52:30Danny Jones?

  And it was their.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  Anal maybe too.

• 52:32Danny Jones?

  And it was their announcement of their, that they're pregnant. They're having a new baby, right? So they're.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Him or the?

• 52:38Danny Jones?

  The other, the other part of the family.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  So they're celebrating a four year old and they're announcing they're pregnant.

• 52:42Danny Jones?

  Yep, exactly.

• 52:43Speaker 03

  This is a big deal.

• 52:44Danny Jones?

  And, and a, a random friend of them, this dude who's been like a lifelong friend, walks by and grabs his girlfriend's ass in front of him.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  Grabbed concrete, concrete Clem's ass?

• 52:54Danny Jones?

  No, his girlfriend's ass.

• 52:56Speaker 03

  No, his girlfriend.

• 52:57Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 52:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, concrete Clem's.

• 52:58Danny Jones?

  Grabbed her ass.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  Just big old handful?

• 53:02Speaker 04

  Gave her like a smack and then there at the top of the water slide, he tried to pull a quick one.

• 53:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah, sure.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  She's on this side, he's over here, they're getting ready to go down the slide, little divider, he gives her a boom and jumps down the slide.

• 53:13Danny Jones?

  That's it? Just a little boom?

• 53:15Speaker 03

  That's, I mean, concrete.

• 53:16Danny Jones?

  You made it sound like worse than that.

• 53:18Speaker 03

  Concrete Clem.

• 53:18Speaker 04

  How much worse does it gotta get?

• 53:19Speaker 03

  I mean, let me show you how bad it can get. Watch.

• 53:21Speaker 04

  Well, nah, I know how bad it can get, but how bad does it?

• 53:24Danny Jones?

  Let him grab your ass.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  I was thinking he was going like that and then like that. I mean, you just, if you just give him a little.

• 53:29Danny Jones?

  Maybe, maybe he slipped a, slipped a finger in there or something.

• 53:31Speaker 03

  There's no finger slipping, but I mean, you barely grabbed my ass. I mean, what's the big deal? He's just like, hey buddy, come on.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  Well, look, I confronted him, I asked him about it, he instantly swole up on me, ready to fight.

• 53:42Speaker 03

  Would you say, hey buddy, why'd you black girl grab my girl?

• 53:44Speaker 04

  I said, yo, did you touch my girl? What's going on?

• 53:46Speaker 03

  See, it's all in that, see?

• 53:48Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 53:49Speaker 03

  You automatically started with a bad attitude.

• 53:51Danny Jones?

  F-bomb.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  That shows you, how old are you, Concrete Clem?

• 53:53Speaker 04

  Thirty seven.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  See, you're a young gun, you got way too much testosterone. I mean, almost as much as Danny.

• 53:59Danny Jones?

  He's on, he's on twice the amount that I'm on.

• 54:02Speaker 03

  Don't look it. You might want to change brands.

• 54:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:05Speaker 03

  And get on the, get on the Danny, get on the Danny Jones.

• 54:08Danny Jones?

  He's behind it behind the crutch fitness.

• 54:11Speaker 04

  I'm a.

• 54:11Speaker 03

  You gotta go.

• 54:12Speaker 04

  I might need the bubba cocktail.

• 54:14Speaker 03

  You, you know where I get my test? Publix.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  What do you mean? Public pharmacy. Public. Oh, they're selling me tests over the counter?

• 54:22Speaker 03

  My doctor.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  No, you get a prescription.

• 54:23Speaker 03

  You get a prescription.

• 54:24Speaker 04

  That costs a lot of money.

• 54:26Speaker 03

  That's real. No, it doesn't. It's a thirty-eight dollar fucking copay.

• 54:28Speaker 04

  Danny pays like three grand a month or some shit.

• 54:32Speaker 03

  He's on some TRT special fucking six million dollar man shit. You know, but so anyway, he grabbed, so you, why didn't you do this approach? Hey buddy, did you grab my girl's ass?

• 54:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:44Speaker 03

  Instead of saying, hey.

• 54:45Speaker 04

  No, I didn't call him a, but I said, hey, yo, he was walking away. I said, did you touch my girl? And then I wasn't happy about it. He was eight mules deep. He instantly turns around. Eight, about eight.

• 54:54Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 54:55Speaker 04

  He turns around, he gets ready to fight. He's ready to fight. Thank you.

• 54:59Speaker 03

  I like that guy's approach. Grabs ass and then wants to fight about it.

• 55:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, sure.

• 55:02Speaker 03

  So what happened? So what happened? Looks like you got the arm sling and what, how's he rolling today?

• 55:06Speaker 04

  No, this is before the sling. He already had two muffed up shoulders. Shoulder. I go to, he swallows up on me. He's a little bigger than me too, so I can't let him hem me up. I got injuries. I can't, I can't really fight. I got bad shoulders.

• 55:18Speaker 03

  And you got your girl looking at you.

• 55:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, so I can't get my ass beat. His shoulders have been known to pop out. Right. Yeah, my shoulders popped out a lot, so.

• 55:24Speaker 03

  Trolling that concrete's tough.

• 55:26Speaker 04

  So he comes charging at me and I go to throw a punch and my shoulder pops out. So I grab my shoulder.

• 55:31Speaker 03

  Complete paper tiger.

• 55:33Speaker 04

  Once he notices I'm injured, he starts charging me. So I give him a kick.

• 55:37Speaker 03

  Roundhouse.

• 55:37Speaker 04

  All I got left is a kick. I gotta keep him away from me because if he grabs me up, I'm. So I give him a couple kicks. This is still cops. I give him a couple kicks, one to the head.

• 55:46Speaker 03

  Beast gimmicks.

• 55:47Speaker 04

  One to the head.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  Up to the head?

• 55:48Speaker 04

  Two to the body. I'm tall, man. I got long legs.

• 55:51Speaker 03

  And a concrete clam. And kung fu fighting.

• 55:54Speaker 04

  So once he realizes I'm not letting him get close enough to get me, it kind of goes for Mary's. You and your, and your pink bathing suit shorts and you and this and that. He was wearing pink. Did you have pink? Yeah, I had pink bathing suit on, man.

• 56:08Speaker 03

  You're overpaying for your test and you're in shorts.

• 56:11Speaker 04

  I mean, concrete Clem, I just when I thought I could maybe save you. I'm out here pouring yards. I don't got the podcast lifestyle, man.

• 56:18Speaker 03

  I mean, you should.

• 56:20Speaker 04

  You know what I mean?

• 56:20Speaker 03

  You should be Danny's assistant. I mean, you should be.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  And Danny calls me, pick me up two white rabbits from the gas station. Bubba's on the way.

• 56:28Speaker 03

  I always said those are forty dollars apiece, mother.

• 56:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, he said, get me a case. I said, I can only afford two. Fuck you.

• 56:33Speaker 03

  Well, concrete Clem, you need to, you need to infuse yourself into Danny Jones world is what you need.

• 56:38Speaker 04

  It's hard to pay the bills. He's pouring me concrete countertops for the new warehouse. My guys are building sinks and shit right now. Oh, yeah. Oh, I love that. Well, let's get you something.

• 56:49Speaker 03

  Nah, I ain't in the mood for anything you're slinging, buddy. You can't even buy the right test, motherfucker.

• 56:55Speaker 04

  Can you throw a guy a bone over here?

• 56:57Speaker 03

  So, hold on.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  So now he's got two throwing shoulders.

• 56:59Speaker 03

  The guy, the guy fucking doesn't whip your ass, but he grabs your girl's ass, tells you about it.

• 57:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  Gives you a couple fucking let it learn you's and then fucks you out on your shorts.

• 57:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 57:14Speaker 03

  And then is that where it ended?

• 57:15Speaker 04

  No, that's not where it ended. He's, his kid's there too. His kid sees me give him a couple kicks. His kid gets frantic, says, I'm calling the cops. He runs back to the family. They're at the cabana at the pool. We're on the beach right here. Nobody's even there seeing it go down.

• 57:28Speaker 03

  Right.

• 57:29Speaker 04

  So I'm like, you know what? He's leaving. He's going back. I'm like, fuck it. I'm out of here. I'm gonna just go get my car keys. I'm getting the fuck out of here.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  Cause you're scared. You're scared.

• 57:36Speaker 04

  I got nobody with me, man.

• 57:37Speaker 03

  And you're scared because the cops are coming.

• 57:39Speaker 04

  Cops are coming.

• 57:40Speaker 03

  You don't know how it's gonna play out.

• 57:41Speaker 04

  And I'm the bad guy right now. So I'm out of here.

• 57:43Speaker 03

  And you got eight whatever's in ya.

• 57:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, I got drinks. Glor is in me. Pina coladas.

• 57:48Speaker 03

  What about old girl?

• 57:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, she's blacked out drunk. Old girl's blacked out.

• 57:52Speaker 03

  Drunk.

• 57:53Speaker 04

  Blacked out.

• 57:53Speaker 03

  Did she even know her ass was grabbed?

• 57:55Speaker 04

  She doesn't understand even what's going, what's happening, what's happening?

• 57:59Speaker 03

  Which is even worse. Why you shouldn't have gotten a fight?

• 58:01Speaker 04

  Nobody to back up for me. So anyway, I'm like, fuck it. I'm gonna leave everybody, the family, everybody. I'm out of here. I go to the room to get my car keys. They're not there. I realize they're at the cabana where everybody's at.

• 58:11Speaker 03

  And you're probably borderline frantic at this point.

• 58:13Speaker 04

  I'm frantic. I'm sweating bullets. I'm fucking.

• 58:15Speaker 03

  Cause you're going to jail.

• 58:16Speaker 04

  Sobered up now.

• 58:17Speaker 03

  You know why? Cause he's got more witnesses.

• 58:19Speaker 04

  Fucking kid and yeah, so I'm in a bad shot, so. I realized my keys are at the cabana where they're all at. So I'm like, this is gonna be a tough one. Can I sneak my keys out of there in front of everybody and get the fuck out of here? So I put a hoodie on, I change my clothes, I go down.

• 58:32Speaker 03

  Oh, you're the fucking Unabomber now?

• 58:33Speaker 04

  I'm looking, I see him over there huddled up by the cabana and I see my bag.

• 58:36Speaker 03

  Oh, they're getting their story together. They're over there fucking.

• 58:39Speaker 04

  He's over there telling his whole side of the story now.

• 58:41Speaker 03

  He's holding court. This is how it's all gonna go down.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Everything happened. This guy's drunk. He's an asshole. He's fucked. I got no backup.

• 58:48Speaker 03

  With a tweaked shoulder that just popped out.

• 58:50Speaker 04

  So I go over there.

• 58:51Speaker 03

  Wearing a fag shorts.

• 58:52Speaker 04

  I sneak, I sneak the bag, I put it over my shoulder, I get out, I got my hoodie on, I walk all the way from the pool, which is on the beach side.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  How about old girl? Where's old girl?

• 58:59Speaker 04

  I don't know where she's at right now.

• 59:00Speaker 03

  You don't give a fuck?

• 59:01Speaker 04

  No, I'm out of here.

• 59:02Speaker 03

  You're leaving her too?

• 59:03Speaker 04

  Everybody.

• 59:04Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 59:04Speaker 04

  Gone. She's no help to me right now.

• 59:06Speaker 03

  Right. You gotta stay out of jail.

• 59:08Speaker 04

  She's actually a liability to me at this point. So I gotta get, I gotta get the hell out of there. So I go sneak the bag, throw it on my shoulder, I walk out, I get past the pool, through the lobby to the parking lot. Out of nowhere, I just get melee'd in the back of the head. Boom. All my shit goes spilling everywhere. My phone, I get like knocked out, I'm concussed, I get up, the family's in my face grabbing me by their shoulders. Why would you do this? Fuck you. You're this, you're that. He's trying to fucking fight me still. The brother-in-law is ready to fight me, the mother-in-law is ready to fight me, the sister. I leave my phone, I leave everything. I got my keys in my hand, I run. No shirt on, nothing. No shoes, no shirt, nothing.

• 59:46Speaker 03

  This is straight Kennesaw City shit. I'm just telling you that right now.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  I run to the car, get in the car, I leave.

• 59:52Speaker 03

  But they got your phone?

• 59:53Speaker 04

  They got everything. Yeah.

• 59:55Speaker 03

  You didn't get arrested though?

• 59:56Speaker 04

  No. No, I don't know.

• 59:57Speaker 03

  He's got, are you still with your girl?

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  No, we're not talking right now.

• 1:00:01Speaker 03

  Really? You want me to call her up?

• 1:00:02Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  Be like, listen, what's her first name?

• 1:00:08Speaker 04

  Alicia.

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  Be like, listen, Alicia, Concrete Clem was just, you know, you grabbed your ass, was defending your honor.

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:14Speaker 03

  Things went south on him.

• 1:00:15Speaker 04

  So that night, they gaslit.

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  I wanna call her right now. Listen.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  Where's he do a live call?

• 1:00:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, I'll fix this shit. I mean, she'll be sucking your dick by seven o'clock tonight.

• 1:00:25Speaker 04

  So they gaslight me all night. I was never even on the slide. Nobody was on the slide. You're fucking crazy. What are you doing? You're drunk, you're stoned. The family's gaslighting him. And the family.

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  Oh, so now the family's hooked up with your girl.

• 1:00:39Speaker 04

  That's her family.

• 1:00:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, and they got, they got an alliance again. It's called, you know, friends, it's called Friends and Families Against Concrete Clem.

• 1:00:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:48Speaker 03

  You're fucked. You got like one verse sixty.

• 1:00:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  Hmm. So now it looks like things are still fucked.

• 1:00:54Danny Jones?

  Hmm. More of the story is-

• 1:00:56Speaker 04

  So the next day, she wakes up and comes to. She starts remembering everything. Yeah, it did happen. Shane's right. This guy has notoriously been known for this. He's done shit like this before. He's had problems.

• 1:01:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:09Speaker 04

  He's fucked with other people's girl. His wife and kid are there also, which is crazy. She, they've gotten in fights for him doing shit like this before.

• 1:01:16Speaker 03

  Your wife has a pretty nice ass and the guy just felt compelled to grab it?

• 1:01:19Speaker 04

  Sure, she does, man, but I can't just let it fucking slide with every girl, every guy out there, Bubba Clem's grabbing my girl's ass on the water slide.

• 1:01:26Speaker 03

  I'm usually on the other side. They're fucking my wife usually.

• 1:01:29Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? I just, I can't let that slide.

• 1:01:31Speaker 03

  I'm usually on the other side of it, cuz.

• 1:01:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  Fuck.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. I've got Bubba money, man. I could, I could.

• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  We're having this podcast based on my wife getting fucked by a hunk of-

• 1:01:39Speaker 04

  I'm just a fucking, I'm just a loser. Let's guys grab our ass and don't say nothing. But I gotta say something as a man.

• 1:01:44Speaker 03

  I got you, I got you.

• 1:01:45Speaker 04

  I can't do that. That's fucking bullshit.

• 1:01:47Speaker 03

  I understand, but look at you, though. I mean, you're fucked right now.

• 1:01:49Danny Jones?

  He's gotta get his shoulders fixed. We need to find him a good surgeon. He need, I mean, I don't think there's any way he's gonna fix it with physical therapy.

• 1:01:55Speaker 03

  I've been told that shoulder surgery, if, unless it's, unless you, if you can still take your arm and walk it up.

• 1:02:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:05Speaker 03

  Then you need it. Other than, then other than that-

• 1:02:08Speaker 04

  Both of them.

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  Live with it because it is the most brutal-

• 1:02:12Speaker 04

  I was in the car and I reached with this arm to close the passenger window and it popped out.

• 1:02:17Speaker 03

  Can you take a gallon of milk and, and hold it like that?

• 1:02:20Speaker 04

  Not right now, not with this arm. No. I'm in excruciating pain.

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  At least, at least if I fought you, I'm going right for that fucking shoulder.

• 1:02:27Speaker 04

  Well, that's why I'm throwing kicks.

• 1:02:29Danny Jones?

  Fuck your kicks bitch.

• 1:02:31Speaker 03

  My fatness can absorb your kicks, but one of my little T-Rex fucking hitters.

• 1:02:35Speaker 04

  Teeth ain't absorbing this size thirteen shoe, I'll tell you that.

• 1:02:38Danny Jones?

  If I came right there just.

• 1:02:39Speaker 04

  No, you'll never get that close with those chicken arms, man. Never are you getting that close to me.

• 1:02:44Speaker 03

  Those T- they call them, they call them T-Rex, they're T-Rex.

• 1:02:47Speaker 04

  You'll never get that close.

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  Fatness can absorb that thirteen and I'm gonna get up on that.

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  If you got weight over my weight, I'm, I can't let you get close enough to me then.

• 1:02:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, cuz I get.

• 1:02:56Speaker 04

  You wrap me up, I'm done.

• 1:02:58Speaker 03

  Well, here, if I put my knee on that, on that shoulder.

• 1:03:00Speaker 04

  I'm a fucking gummy, you wrap me up.

• 1:03:01Speaker 03

  You're right.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  I'm over. So you can't, I can't let you touch.

• 1:03:04Speaker 03

  You gotta stay, you gotta stay nimble, crack nimble.

• 1:03:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm fast and uh, you gotta stay away.

• 1:03:09Speaker 03

  I don't know how fucking fast you are.

• 1:03:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm faster than you, I know that.

• 1:03:13Speaker 03

  Well, it'd take much to be faster than me. My shoulders, my shoulders are fucked too.

• 1:03:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:18Speaker 03

  You know, I mean, they're, my shit's fucked.

• 1:03:20Speaker 04

  I'm bad, man.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  Look at steroid boy over there, he's fucking jacked, no problems.

• 1:03:24Danny Jones?

  No, no problems yet. My, my joints are good, I keep, I keep.

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  Are you even thirty yet? Have you, I mean, how old are you?

• 1:03:28Danny Jones?

  Thirty-eight, I just turned thirty-eight.

• 1:03:30Speaker 03

  Are you serious?

• 1:03:31Danny Jones?

  I'm getting old.

• 1:03:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, but you're killing it. Did you ever think that some stupid fuck that was painting lines, you know, for a living, uh, and listening to me on the radio?

• 1:03:39Danny Jones?

  I was hanging out with crackhead painters at six AM in the back of a van with a bunch of-

• 1:03:42Speaker 03

  And painters are straight crackheads.

• 1:03:44Danny Jones?

  Oh, straight crackheads.

• 1:03:45Speaker 03

  Straight crackheads.

• 1:03:45Danny Jones?

  Yep, yep.

• 1:03:46Speaker 03

  They only paint enough to make enough money for crack and then they'll take a couple days off and then they'll come back and paint again for crack.

• 1:03:51Danny Jones?

  Exactly, exactly.

• 1:03:52Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:03:52Danny Jones?

  Yep, I was, I was fucking, I was schlepping paint buckets to the up ten stories, painting Hyatt in Sarasota.

• 1:03:59Speaker 03

  And they're talking down to you cuz you're young, you're the young boy. Hey, young boy, go get that five fucking gallons.

• 1:04:03Danny Jones?

  Listening to Bubba every morning, I would look forward to sitting there.

• 1:04:05Speaker 03

  And now look at you.

• 1:04:06Danny Jones?

  Half asleep, half conscious, listening about.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  Multi-millionaire.

• 1:04:09Danny Jones?

  That was the only thing that gave me life.

• 1:04:10Speaker 04

  Just dying for a Ned bit to come in.

• 1:04:12Speaker 03

  Just, yeah, just fucking, look at you, I'm so proud of you. Look what you've become.

• 1:04:16Danny Jones?

  It's pretty wild, Bubba.

• 1:04:17Speaker 03

  I mean, just the growth that you've had since I've been here last.

• 1:04:21Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's, yeah, it's crazy.

• 1:04:22Speaker 03

  I mean, you've tripled what you've had, I think.

• 1:04:24Danny Jones?

  It's crazy, I don't know why.

• 1:04:25Speaker 03

  I know cuz you're not that fucking good.

• 1:04:27Danny Jones?

  I'm not good.

• 1:04:28Speaker 03

  You suck.

• 1:04:28Danny Jones?

  I do suck.

• 1:04:29Speaker 03

  I look at something like, what the fuck's he doing so good?

• 1:04:31Danny Jones?

  It's because I bring people like you in.

• 1:04:32Speaker 03

  Well.

• 1:04:33Danny Jones?

  It's all about the guests.

• 1:04:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, okay, I guess, you know.

• 1:04:37Speaker 04

  We got Bubba and Matt Cox, we're doing good.

• 1:04:39Danny Jones?

  Yeah, Bubba and Matt Cox.

• 1:04:41Speaker 03

  Morgan brought Matt.

• 1:04:44Speaker 03

  What's wrong with Matt? Why don't you like Matt?

• 1:04:46Danny Jones?

  Oh, I forgot. He pissed off your buddy.

• 1:04:47Speaker 03

  Well, he.

• 1:04:48Danny Jones?

  He pissed off the sir.

• 1:04:49Speaker 03

  Here's the thing, I would.

• 1:04:50Danny Jones?

  The boob job guy.

• 1:04:51Speaker 04

  Oh, Diaco's.

• 1:04:52Speaker 03

  I'd love to do stuff with him. He's brilliant. He's a, listen, I, just like you're a good host and I, I know how good you are. I look at your shit. And Matt's brilliant. He's got a great look. He's got a great story. He's a good communicator. But Matt doesn't have a fucking filter. And, and so there's just.

• 1:05:14Danny Jones?

  What do you mean?

• 1:05:15Speaker 03

  Well, so I had him on the show and um, I think we were driving pretty good. Um, I think maybe I was hogging up. Maybe I, I, I might've been stepping over him a little bit. I, I might've been. But, but I had Diaco's in there. Dr. Diaco and um, or actually had Jay Diaco in there. And I, Matt just always has to get the last word in, like Matt can never, I can be the brunt of a joke. I can. You can be the brunt of a joke. We fuck with you about your arm hair and shit like that. Concrete Clem can be the brunt of the joke. You gotta be self-deprecating.

• 1:05:53Danny Jones?

  Unless you're grabbing his chick's ass.

• 1:05:55Speaker 03

  Right, right. And, and in the right circumstances, you might let a guy grab a girl's ass.

• 1:05:59Speaker 04

  You know, if it was you, bubba, it'd have been a different story.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  But let me ask you a question. If the dude would have said, if you rolled up on him and he said, and he, and the dude went, you know what, dude, I did. And I, I don't even know what's, I mean, I've been drinking and I'm sorry. I didn't mean anything.

• 1:06:12Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 1:06:14Speaker 03

  No, like if a guy was, you know, I mean, you're gonna, you're not gonna.

• 1:06:17Speaker 04

  Look, I'm not there to blow the whole family event up.

• 1:06:19Speaker 03

  Exactly. So if the guy said, hey dude, you know what?

• 1:06:22Speaker 04

  I'm fucking drunk and I fucked up.

• 1:06:23Speaker 03

  I'm drunk. And I think.

• 1:06:24Speaker 04

  He could have said that. I was hoping it went that way. When I was going to walk to him to ask him, in my head, I'm hoping this is a misunderstanding.

• 1:06:31Speaker 03

  This guy's gonna be cool.

• 1:06:32Speaker 04

  Hoping, oh, it wasn't that. It was, I'm sorry, whatever.

• 1:06:35Speaker 03

  And if he even.

• 1:06:35Speaker 04

  But as soon as I asked him, he turned around and he squared up on me. So what the fuck are you gonna do?

• 1:06:39Danny Jones?

  At that, there's, that's the point, no return.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  Comes with age and wisdom.

• 1:06:41Speaker 04

  So that's how I know what I saw.

• 1:06:43Speaker 03

  If I grabbed your girl's ass, I would've said, you know what, bro? I've been having way too much to drink.

• 1:06:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're all drunk. Let me buy you a shot.

• 1:06:48Speaker 03

  I'm high, I'm horny as fuck.

• 1:06:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, here's a perk.

• 1:06:51Speaker 03

  I'm taking testosterone. I got a hard dick. I saw. I saw that ass. I saw that ass. Me too. And I fucking, and I, and I did. And you know what, you know what? You know what, your girl has nice titties. Let me get a feel over there. Yeah, my girl's got nice titties and your girl got a nice ass. Maybe we can get them to scissor and we can watch in the corner. I don't fucking know. It could have went different. It could have said, and you know, I would be like, you know, brother, I got an ass kicking coming. If you want to lay one in on me, man, go. You would have said, nah, fuck, I got you, brother. Yeah. But you know, the guy, the guy determined what the fuck happened. But with Matt. Yeah. Matt is so, I don't want to say so much of a con, but he's led such a con-like life. Mm-hmm. And that he doesn't know when to be couthe or have any couthe.

• 1:07:35Speaker 03

  And so him and Diaco got into a little bit of a, of an argument or a disagreement. Or maybe it was about the subject matter we were talking about. I don't know. It wasn't anything that I thought was, that I needed to step in on. They were, you know, you know, when you got two, like me and Concrete Climb going out, if we were, if we were really mad at each other, you would step in and say, hey, you two settled out. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like that at all. I thought it was just. He was asking him about his case, right? Something about his case? Something like that. Well, Matt and, Matt had had a girl that he knew that supposedly got a boob job from Dr. Diaco. That I don't think, I think there was complications involved in it. Oh, okay.

• 1:08:17Speaker 03

  And I think the woman maybe sued Dan, you know, for replacement boobs or something like that. And it was, it was something like that. But to a doctor, you just don't say that. Oh, he said that on the air? Yes. Oh, god. Oh, fucking Matt. Yeah, so on, on the air. So like, Dan, Doc, Dr. Diaco, who's a doctor and a lawyer. You know, that's a, that's a pretty big swinging dick in life. He's got. It's a hell of a combo. That, you're a doctor and a lawyer. I mean, you're a, you're, you know. You're covering. So you're, you're kind of a slinging dick and you're not going to have some fucking con. Say that to you on the air disclosing a mess up that you made and it just was like

• 1:09:01Speaker 03

  and you know out of loyalty to the Diakos who are on my air.

• 1:09:06Danny Jones?

  He wasn't having it.

• 1:09:07Speaker 03

  Um, I would love to have Matt back. Um, I think he's got a fascinating story. I think he's a great interviewer and some of his guests.

• 1:09:16Danny Jones?

  His podcast is blowing up.

• 1:09:18Speaker 03

  Oh, as it should. He's good. You know, like I remember earlier I talked about how the shit's gonna fall away and the good stuff's gonna stick. Matt's a prime example of, Matt's a prime example that, you know, started with zero followers and now has what 250,000?

• 1:09:34Danny Jones?

  He has almost 800,000.

• 1:09:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, on, on, yeah, I mean, yeah, so God bless him. And I could tell that the guy had the it factor when I had him on the show. He just, he tells fascinating stories. He gets, oh, he's a great storyteller. He has a fascinating story in himself. Good looking guy, talented, great painter. I loved the dude.

• 1:09:54Danny Jones?

  Jack to the gills.

• 1:09:55Speaker 03

  Jack to the fucking gills. On triple whatever you are. I guarantee you that motherfucker shaves his arms. I promise you he does. He does. He's also a very talented painter.

• 1:10:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  I mean, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, I wish I wouldn't have had that conflict with him because I'd love to do business with him or, you know, you know, have him back on or him have me back on or, or something like that. And maybe you can help me bridge that gap because it wasn't between me and.

• 1:10:21Danny Jones?

  Matt would do it again, I think.

• 1:10:22Speaker 03

  It wasn't between me and Matt. It was between, you know, my guy and Matt.

• 1:10:25Danny Jones?

  I think Matt thinks that you won't talk to him anymore because you don't want to piss off your, the, your friend.

• 1:10:30Speaker 03

  Oh, no, that's not the case. I mean, I wouldn't have Matt on my show with them in there, but I would have, they're only in there twice a week. I would have Matt and vice versa. Um, and, and listen, I, I admire his work. I mean, I could tell you three or four guests that he's had. He had a guy that was making counterfeit money out of bibles. Uh, was that you? That was you?

• 1:10:53Danny Jones?

  He had him on first, but he gave, he came on my show after he went on.

• 1:10:55Speaker 03

  Right, you know, and so Matt, Matt has some great guys and the motherfucker has the it factor.

• 1:11:01Danny Jones?

  He's a workhorse too. He, he does, he records. Like five to six podcasts a week, every fucking day, back to back. Sometimes he does two or three a day. I'm like, Matt, how do you do it? I'm like, because when I have people on, I usually like, take some time, like, research them, watch their documentaries, read parts of their, but I can't read a whole book every fucking week. But like, I'll skim the book, read a lot of the book, watch other podcasts they've done. So I'm like somewhat coherent what they're talking about. I don't just cover true crime, I cover a wide variety of topics. Matt goes, bro, he's like, I don't do anything. He's like, I, I basically read like, a paragraph of what their story is, and then I go in and do it. And I do like two a day, six days a week.

• 1:11:38Speaker 03

  And, and guess what? He does it well. He does do it. I mean, he does it well.

• 1:11:41Danny Jones?

  That's, that's a talent, man. That's something that's.

• 1:11:43Speaker 03

  He's a very talented dude. I mean, just how he got himself involved in being in trouble was brilliant. Fucking brilliant. And cool in the pocket, you know, some of the stories, and when he's in the bank and he's cool as a fucking cucumber. And he knows that it might not go through and that the fucking cops might become, like, I would be a fucking nervous wreck. Not Matt, Matt's, you know, and I got a lot of, I mean, I got a lot of respect for his ability. He's got to, you know, he's a prime example of what I said. The shit will fall away and the good stuff will come through. And I think that that's happening more and more with podcasting. Are you people shutting their shit down because they suck?

• 1:12:22Danny Jones?

  Are you having guests in on your show? Your, your show is daily, right?

• 1:12:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, daily. Yeah.

• 1:12:26Danny Jones?

  Are you, do you, you don't do guests?

• 1:12:28Speaker 03

  Um, I'd love to, but doing six to 10, you know, I do six to 10. It's so hard to get a guest.

• 1:12:35Danny Jones?

  Why can't you change the time?

• 1:12:37Speaker 03

  I, well, because I'm still, I'm still on five terrestrial radio stations. You know, I'm still on five terrestrial radio stations, but you know, realistically, digital pays the bills. Even in my world, digital pays the bills. And so I'm getting ready to, if this documentary doesn't somewhat reinvent me terrestrially, where I would get some large, large affiliates that would want to have me on as their morning guy, I'll probably change the time and go like 11 to two digitally and just stay all digital.

• 1:13:10Danny Jones?

  Do you like having guests or do you like just, just talking and just going?

• 1:13:14Speaker 03

  Well, I love having guests.

• 1:13:15Danny Jones?

  Because yours, your ability is just to like, go crazy and fricking let go.

• 1:13:19Speaker 03

  I don't need a guest.

• 1:13:20Danny Jones?

  You don't need a guest. You're great by yourself.

• 1:13:22Speaker 03

  But. I can, I can, you know, I can, I've interviewed Joe Rogan, I've interviewed, I mean, I've interviewed everybody. So I, I pride myself on being a really good interviewer. Um, I, I just need to, you know, we're,

• 1:13:38Speaker 03

  I was at my lowest point in 18, so I didn't have a, have an opportunity to have a big staff and I, I quite frankly, need to get back into the guest booking arena. It's just hard. I'm not, I'm not part, I'm, I was, I was late to the podcasting game. I was late to the YouTube game, you know, so, you know, my, my, my numbers aren't nearly as impressive as what they should be to probably book big guests, but I do have, you know, the name value, the, you know, time served, so to speak. And, you know, still have probably within the shock jock world, probably one of the premier radio people that are still around, you know?

• 1:14:17Danny Jones?

  How do you, I was, I was asking Rogan about this when I was talking to him. So I was, cause I, when I went and met with him in Austin, the night before he did a, a comedy show, like at like seven, eight o'clock at night or something like that. And he was like onstage, you could tell this was like, he was working out material that he obviously had been working out for a while that he hasn't come out public with yet. It's like, cause when you go to his club, you have to lock your phone in a little case. You can't record it. See, they're just trying to like figure out what works, what doesn't work. And he was also just like riffing. He like, he finished his set and he goes, I got like 30 more minutes to go. So if you guys just want to ask me questions.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  Q and A.

• 1:14:51Danny Jones?

  He called dude, can you have the card? He did that for like an hour.

• 1:14:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:54Danny Jones?

  And people were asking him questions about like relevant current event topics and he would come out like high octane. He would have fucking funny opinions on everything that had just happened in the news that week or that day.

• 1:15:06Speaker 03

  See, that's kind of what we do.

• 1:15:07Danny Jones?

  And it was like, I don't fucking like, I wasn't even aware of some of the stuff that he was talking about, but he was like super quick, super funny and like roasting people while he was doing it. It was just like another level. I've never seen that on any of his podcasts.

• 1:15:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:20Danny Jones?

  He was like, he shifted like three gears above how he is on his podcast or in that comedy. And I was like, dude, I was like, how do you like?

• 1:15:27Speaker 03

  And that's an art form in itself.

• 1:15:29Danny Jones?

  It is.

• 1:15:29Speaker 03

  Being able to be on your toes, talk about current events, have an opinion about it, make it funny.

• 1:15:35Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:15:35Speaker 03

  And all while potentially turning it around on the person that asked the question.

• 1:15:39Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:15:39Speaker 03

  So, you know.

• 1:15:40Danny Jones?

  And that's what you did. That's what you do.

• 1:15:42Speaker 03

  It's what I do. Yeah, that's what I do. So, I, I would love to have guests, um, but a lot of guests are afraid of me because of my reputation. Uh, that, you know, so, uh, but yeah, I need to start, I need to start having guests. And if I, if I switch my time, which looks like I'm probably gonna do maybe mid, mm, probably first quarter of next year, do more, do more of like a 11 to 2 digital kinda deal. I think I'd be more, more, more guest friendly than 7 a.m., you know?

• 1:16:12Danny Jones?

  So you, you wake up at like 4 a.m.?

• 1:16:14Speaker 03

  I wake up at 3:40.

• 1:16:15Danny Jones?

  You read the news?

• 1:16:16Speaker 03

  3:40.

• 1:16:17Danny Jones?

  And then how does that, how does that work? How's that process work?

• 1:16:19Speaker 03

  I wake up at 3:40, eat breakfast, take a shower, leave the house at 4:15, get to the studios at 4:45. And then all my, then, then I have two, two of my guys, uh, Lummy and Seth, my co-hosts that, um, the night before will go through all the stories, stories that I like, you know, like, and, and have, so in my email, I'll have 20 stories. And I'll go through those and pick, sometimes all 20 of them, sometimes, you know, 13 of them. And, uh, we, we, we, we talk about that, that in conjunction with just, you know, stuff that happens in our personal life. Like with Concrete Clem, if he was in there, we would have told the, the, you know.

• 1:17:03Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:17:03Speaker 03

  Him, him and his, his, uh, pink short story, you know?

• 1:17:06Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:07Speaker 03

  So, uh, but I need to do more guests. I mean, I, uh, I had Mark Cuban on not too long ago and he sent me a note, says, you know, god dang, you're a good interviewer, you know? So, I, I, I, I, I need to do that more. I really do. I probably need to take a page from, how do you, how do you book your guests?

• 1:17:25Danny Jones?

  We get, usually they're just, um.

• 1:17:27Speaker 03

  Well, you're now at a point where people are begging, sucking your dick to come on your show.

• 1:17:31Danny Jones?

  We get a lot of requests to come on the show. People that, it's mainly, uh, people that want to promote their books, like authors and things like that, or, um. But like also, one of the biggest ways we get guests is from guests just recommending their friends.

• 1:17:42Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:17:42Danny Jones?

  Oh, I know a guy who'd be great, who wants to be on your show.

• 1:17:44Speaker 03

  Kind of like you and Matt Cox, like, like, like, you know, when he had that dollar, that counterfeit guy.

• 1:17:50Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:17:51Speaker 03

  He's like, hey, Danny, I got this counterfeit guy. He's a good dude, you know?

• 1:17:53Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:54Speaker 03

  So that's the difference between podcasting and regular radio. The regular radio guy won't give you that up. The podcasting guy will.

• 1:18:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:02Speaker 03

  You know, so that's kind of the difference.

• 1:18:04Danny Jones?

  The debates are fun, too. Like having people in, because I have a lot of people in here who have like pretty controversial opinions on things, like on crazy topics. And then like getting other people in there, in the podcast to like, ha, debate them or like go back and forth. Like that can be really fun.

• 1:18:17Speaker 03

  I am a good friend, I'm good friends with Alex Stein and he does that a lot. Alex Stein, uh, he, I don't know if you've heard of him or not.

• 1:18:22Danny Jones?

  I've heard of him.

• 1:18:23Speaker 03

  He, uh, he, he's a big debate kind of guy, you know?

• 1:18:25Danny Jones?

  I want to get, I want to get, uh, Peter Thiel in here. Talk about the Antichrist.

• 1:18:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, you, you, he's the one that financed Hogan's.

• 1:18:34Danny Jones?

  I know.

• 1:18:35Speaker 03

  Uh, um, um, legal.

• 1:18:38Danny Jones?

  Gay Christian billionaire.

• 1:18:39Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean.

• 1:18:41Danny Jones?

  That's a combination.

• 1:18:42Speaker 03

  I don't know if he would come. I mean, he's pretty, pretty, I don't know.

• 1:18:46Danny Jones?

  I have a friend who works for him.

• 1:18:47Speaker 03

  Oh, well, see, there's your end.

• 1:18:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:49Speaker 03

  There's your end. It's all about ends, you know, you know?

• 1:18:52Danny Jones?

  What do you think about him, uh, going on this, uh, tour to promote, uh, the Antichrist in Silicon Valley? He's doing a four-part, uh, lecture that's sold out, all about the Antichrist. Have you seen these clips?

• 1:19:03Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 1:19:05Danny Jones?

  I said, I saw you the one of Tim Dillon talking about it on Rogan.

• 1:19:08Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, I did get that. I did get that. I watched that.

• 1:19:11Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:19:12Danny Jones?

  Um, this guy who's sending drones all over the world to all these war zones to kill all these people simultaneously put, uh, putting together this AI that he's selling to the CIA to surveil us and our neighbors, society. And, uh, and his pet project seems to be a, a keen interest in Satan.

• 1:19:31Speaker 03

  And this is Peter Thiel.

• 1:19:32Danny Jones?

  Peter Thiel, yeah.

• 1:19:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:19:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah, he's like, he's behind this big, I mean, you know all about Peter Thiel. Most people know, you know, his history. He's like the biggest, he was one of the early investors in Facebook.

• 1:19:43Speaker 03

  PayPal.

• 1:19:43Danny Jones?

  Owns PayPal as well, Palantir.

• 1:19:47Danny Jones?

  And he's.

• 1:19:48Speaker 03

  And his, and his number one goal was to Barry Gawker because Nick Ditten was the one that, that, that outed him as being gay.

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• 1:20:55Speaker 03

  So that was his big hard on with Gawker. So when Hogan started to sue Gawker, Hogan didn't have the resources locally to step up to the big boy league. And Gawker did, at, at one point Gawker had way better representation than Hogan did. And once Peter Thiel, Thiel, whatever the fuck it, once he found out that Hogan had an ongoing, ongoing legal battle with Gawker, he called up his lawyer, Charles Harder out of Beverly Hills and said, I don't care what it takes. I will pay for every fucking dollar of that of that litigation. And it changed everything. Hogan was able to do research. He was able to do mock trials.

• 1:21:41Speaker 03

  He was able to, oh yeah, it changed. I mean, rumor has it is that his legal bill was upwards of eight million dollars. You know, and at that point, you know, they had determined they'd mock tried it. You know, they had, they had all the research that they needed and you know, they, they'd already deposed me. They knew what my testimony was going to be. And, uh, that's one of the reasons why I think, well, Hogan prevailed because Gawker invaded his privacy. Let's be honest. I mean, you know, they had no business on publishing that tape. You know, they got, they obtained it illegally. They, they knew it was stolen. They didn't have consensual forms from Heather or him, so they should have never published it. It wasn't a newsworthy event. Hogan fucking my wife is not a newsworthy event if it's not on the beach.

• 1:22:24Speaker 03

  But it's in, it's in my, it's in my house with closed curtains. So why Gawker even published that, you know, is beyond me.

• 1:22:33Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that was a, that was a crazy thing. And, uh, and the consensus, the general consensus, like for people that aren't paying attention was that you released it as a publicity stunt to make money on it.

• 1:22:43Speaker 03

  Everybody thinks that I did it all. I planned it. I taped it. I took that footage to my work. I then strategized with whomever to try to broker it. Um, I tried to extort Hogan. I then, when none of that worked, leaked it to Gawker. So that I could get myself fired. I mean, it doesn't even make sense. You know, I got fired.

• 1:23:08Danny Jones?

  Was that the peak of your career right there? Like that, at that point?

• 1:23:11Speaker 03

  2012. Yeah. Well, no. I just left Sirius because they had low dogged me on, on the money, but I was still on Cox on the bone and had. You know, 14, 14 affiliates, you know, probably doing two and a half million a year, you know, something like that. So, you know, we were, we were doing, we were doing well. And so.

• 1:23:32Danny Jones?

  And how much would have this tape have met, uh, banked you if, if you would have been behind it to promote it, to sell it?

• 1:23:38Speaker 03

  I would have, there's no value in it at all. There's no, there's, there's no, that's what people don't realize.

• 1:23:43Danny Jones?

  The dude who tried extorting him wanted like 300 grand, right?

• 1:23:47Speaker 03

  Well, the guy who extorted him, Matt Lloyd, Spice Boy, um, wanted $300,000 because he'd already shopped it to Hollywood with Digital Underground and Wicked. And they said, well, you know, yeah, we'll be interested, we'd be very interested in that, but do you have 2257 consent forms on the people that appear on camera? And he's like, well, no. I'm like, well, it's not worth fucking nothing. It's not worth nothing. So Spice Boy, Matt Lloyd, switched gears and said, okay, I can't sell it in the marketplace, but I can extort Hogan with it. Because it's, you know, why would, you know, Hogan will pay any, he wanted a million dollars and they settled for 300,000 at the San, when they met at the San Pearl.

• 1:24:26Speaker 03

  And so, and the reason why Hogan was willing to pay 300,000 for us, because he didn't, it was very damning. You know, nobody wants that out. Nobody wants, you know, he was caught saying the N-word and.

• 1:24:38Danny Jones?

  Right, right. Why would he want that out?

• 1:24:40Speaker 03

  Why would?

• 1:24:41Danny Jones?

  He was kicked out of the WWE for that.

• 1:24:42Speaker 03

  Why would, why would he want, why would I want that? I mean, if you really take a look at it and be like, oh, Bubba did it all, why would I want any of all that?

• 1:24:49Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:24:49Speaker 03

  Why would I want a tape?

• 1:24:50Danny Jones?

  Burn the bridge with you and your best friend?

• 1:24:52Speaker 03

  Hogan fucking my wife and, and, and I'm gonna lose my job. I'm gonna look like a fucking cuckolded asshole. Like, I mean, there's no upside for me. I'm making a couple million dollars in radio. Why do I wanna? So Cox comes to me, I'm still doing mornings, and Cox comes to me and says, you gotta make this go away. Like, you gotta make this go away. So Hogan at that time was suing me too, because he didn't know that I wasn't part of the deal. So he settles with me. I have to write him a check for $5,000 to get out of the lawsuit. So I write him a check for $5,000 and give him all the rights to the tape. You have, here, you own this tape. These tapes that are out there floating around that's causing all this havoc, you.

• 1:25:37Speaker 03

  They're yours. I don't want them. Now, if I'm the guy that's trying to extort him or sell him, sell it, or broker it, why would I pay the guy $5,000 and sign over the rights to the tape? The only way you could sue Gawker is if he owned those tapes. Right. So, when they go to the San Pro restaurant, hotel, the FBI arrests the person that Spice Boy sent to represent them, and arrests Keith Davidson, the guy who brokered the tape, and Hogan, Hogan is the one that alerted the FBI that he was being extorted, and they arrest these people, and then once it goes through the state attorney, or the US attorney, they

• 1:26:18Speaker 03

  figure out, they find out that Bubba and Hogan are your victims, and they're like, listen, you got, that's a pro wrestler and a shock jock, this could be a fucking clown show, you know, and, you know, the feds only go to trial when they know they're gonna win, and it, you know, they decided to no file, so nobody was held accountable for the leak. Nobody was held accountable. So, once Spice Boy got arrested, but then didn't get prosecuted, the tape is dead. There's no value to that tape. Right. And there's nothing, unless you can get it published somewhere. So Spice Boy gives

• 1:26:56Speaker 03

  it to Mike Calta, and Mike Calta leaks it to A.J. Delirio of Gawker, and I get fired, and Mike Calta, of all people, because Cox doesn't know who, who leaked it, they promote Mike Calta to do my job, who's still there today. Mm-hmm. Doing my job. The mornings, yeah. And. Oh, he does mornings now? Does the morning show. Bubba used to have the morning show. The morning show that you used to listen to. Now it's him. Is him, has been for well over a decade. Wow, I've never listened to him once. And, and so here's the deal. Hogan is brilliant, was brilliant. He's like, once he got Peter Thiel involved, they're like, we can take two bites of this apple. We can

• 1:27:41Speaker 03

  take a bite of the apple for the people that published it. Which is Gawker and they're worth, at that time, their worth was 135 million. And then, when that lawsuit goes down, we don't know, we don't know what the outcomes that's gonna be yet, but however that fares, then we're gonna take a, a bidet who distributed it, who leaked it, and that was Cox Media. And as I've been told, that, that they wrote us, they, they wrote a $52 million check to Hogan.

• 1:28:14Speaker 03

  And so Hogan sued Gawker, and they navigated through that lawsuit, and they knew that where that, where that ended up. And that ended up with a $141 million verdict, that, that Gawker only could pay 35 million of because they filed bankruptcy and Hogan was their largest creditor. So, but they had already tried this case, and they knew what, what of, what, what a jury would do. So they went and try, they, so they start to depose Mike Calta. And Cox settles the next day for 52 million because they didn't want any of that information. Because at one time, that sex tape was hosted on Cox management servers.

• 1:28:58Speaker 03

  And they, I mean, they were afraid, Hogan was suing them for 110 million, and they were afraid that they were gonna lose. Gawker lost, why wouldn't they? Right. The, the, the details of the dissemination and the leakage didn't change from the Gawker deal. They'd already tried it once and won. The second trial was gonna go the same way. Right. Go, Cox fired me, put Calta in there, didn't know Calco, Calta was part of this, until they start doing investigation and phone records and things like that, and... He's still there to this day, but there's a bigger piece in my documentary,

• 1:29:40Speaker 03

  Video Killed The Radio Star, that a lot of people don't know about, and that's who they were after as well, as which is, which I'm sure that you know now, you know, they wanted Trump.

• 1:29:51Danny Jones?

  Hmm, yeah, this is the Keith Davidson connection, right?

• 1:29:54Speaker 03

  This is the Keith Davidson tie in. So Keith brokered the tape, and also brokered all the negotiations between Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels with, with Michael Cohen, which, which was Trump's personal fixer slash attorney. And he was negotiating exclusively with Keith Davidson, who was the broker of the Hogan tape. And they went to Keith Davidson and said, if you don't give us all correspondence that you've had with Michael Cohen, we still have four years of statute of limitations left in the Tampa sex tape that we didn't prosecute. We're gonna go for you on that deal. So he laid down, was government's witness,

• 1:30:37Speaker 03

  and gave him all the correspondence that he had with Michael Cohen. And they got Michael Cohen to testify against the president.

• 1:30:45Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 1:30:47Speaker 03

  All from my little old sex tape. That I, that at the end of the day, call me, I mean, I'm not quite as jealous I am, you know, like that you are of your girl. I, I just let my girl fuck Hogan. That's it. He was living with me. He was down on his luck.

• 1:31:01Danny Jones?

  Yeah, how long, he was the, the?

• 1:31:03Speaker 03

  With me for three or four months.

• 1:31:05Danny Jones?

  Living at your house because that was the middle of his divorce.

• 1:31:07Speaker 03

  The middle of his divorce, and I'm like, listen, I'm not a jealous motherfucker. We were kinda in the lifestyle a little bit. And so I was just like, fuck, won't you fuck Hogan? Cheer him up a little bit. My home surveillance caught it. I have some skin in this game, like I've said before.

• 1:31:21Danny Jones?

  You had the, I mean, you, you had the camera pointed at the bed, though.

• 1:31:24Speaker 03

  Well, no, no.

• 1:31:25Danny Jones?

  That's what some of the people say.

• 1:31:26Speaker 03

  Well, that, that was a, a, a peripheral view of my whole bedroom.

• 1:31:30Danny Jones?

  Oh, was it?

• 1:31:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I mean, yeah, it was. And let me just clarify why that.

• 1:31:35Danny Jones?

  You were in the other room, watching the feed, bubba. Don't get me wrong. Don't, don't try to swindle me, bubba.

• 1:31:39Speaker 03

  Can I, with your hairy arms and all?

• 1:31:41Danny Jones?

  Try to pull a McGillicuddy on me.

• 1:31:42Speaker 03

  Can I tell you what I was really doing?

• 1:31:44Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 1:31:45Speaker 03

  This is pathetic. I I was buying go-kart parts for my son.

• 1:31:50Danny Jones?

  Were you?

• 1:31:51Speaker 03

  Yes, my son was in the quarter midgets at that time and I was buying titanium axles, which are like eight hundred bucks. I was trying to find the best price on titanium axles. The reason why I had surveillance in my bedroom and my whole house was surveilled except for other bedrooms, but my bedroom was was was under surveillance because I had a situation back in ninety nine where I was with a girl and I was a bachelor back then. I was a bachelor, big ass house, you know, making a lot of money.

• 1:32:22Danny Jones?

  This is Power Peg days?

• 1:32:23Speaker 03

  This is ninety eight Rock days.

• 1:32:25Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:32:25Speaker 03

  You know, you know, having a stripper every night, whole nine yards and I had a woman, a girl that I fucked and she about a week later calls me up and wants to come over again. And I can I can tell you her just her first name, first name was, her name was Kathy. And um, there's a, there's a million Kathys out there, so.

• 1:32:51Danny Jones?

  Not anymore. You can tell it was the nineties.

• 1:32:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:32:54Danny Jones?

  There's no girls born after two thousand ten named Kathy.

• 1:32:58Speaker 03

  So on the sec, on the second time she came over, she got too drunk. She had, she liked wine. I had a big wine cellar. I'm not a wine drinker, but you know, in order to be a pimp, you have to have a wine cellar. I had a wine cellar, so she's out picking. I think she drank like a bottle and a half of wine and and we fucked. We fucked. And um, she the next day goes home, does the walk of shame, wakes up, hungover, drunk, goes, goes back to her apartment and her girlfriend says, you know, where have you been all night long? You know, and she says, I've been with Bubba the Love Sponge. And um, her girlfriend's like, well, what happened? And she was like, well, you know.

• 1:33:43Speaker 03

  We fucked and I got drunk and the girl starts putting in her head, well, did you, you know, did, did, did he fuck you when you were drunk and were you of, of, of sound mind and did you really want to do it and all this kind of shit? So I get a call from Kathy and she's like, you know what? I, I don't know if I feel real good about what happened two nights ago. You know, I, I, I think maybe you took advantage of me or, you know, stuff like that. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold the fuck on.

• 1:34:10Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:11Speaker 03

  I've been with you before and you know, and I didn't have any surveillance at that time. And so I get ahold of my agent. I tell him that this Kathy bitch is saying I may have been inappropriate, which I have never had that allegation against me ever. A lot of things I've done, that's not one of them. So he goes, listen, we're going to camera up your bedroom. And if you ever get in that situation, you'll be able to prove, you can tell consensual sex from non-consensual sex.

• 1:34:41Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:41Speaker 03

  You, I mean, from a videotape. And he goes, bottom line is if, if it would ever come into play, it's a misdemeanor for recording somebody against their will.

• 1:34:50Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:34:50Speaker 03

  And we would be able to prove.

• 1:34:52Danny Jones?

  That it wasn't.

• 1:34:52Speaker 03

  That it was, that was consensual.

• 1:34:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:54Speaker 03

  So here I am, a bachelor, you know, fucking dollhouse bitches, you know, just being the man, being, being, being a thirty some year old multimillionaire. And I, I put surveillance in my bedroom and that's why I did it.

• 1:35:09Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:35:09Speaker 03

  Um, I wasn't in their next room looking. I wasn't in, in the corner jacking off.

• 1:35:15Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:16Speaker 03

  It just, it, it just, it just, so then at that point.

• 1:35:20Danny Jones?

  At what point do you have to start getting, uh, girls to sign, uh, like NDAs?

• 1:35:24Speaker 03

  I think, I think, I mean, I think now.

• 1:35:27Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I think so.

• 1:35:28Speaker 03

  I think if you're a person of wealth.

• 1:35:30Danny Jones?

  There's probably super athletes out there who go to parties and have to bring a stack of NDAs.

• 1:35:34Speaker 03

  I know of athletes that make girls sign NDAs.

• 1:35:38Danny Jones?

  I've heard stories too.

• 1:35:39Speaker 03

  Yep. I've. And with a driver's license, like a, like take a picture of your driver's license and make you sign an NDA before they'll fuck you.

• 1:35:47Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:35:47Speaker 03

  You know, so that's the world we live in.

• 1:35:50Danny Jones?

  But like, what would happen even if the girl did sign the NDA and she went out and just like, told the world about it? Like, what would, I mean, if they had nothing to lose, what would they, what would?

• 1:35:58Speaker 03

  Much kind of like the Shannon Sharp deal. Like, how did that shit go down? Like, I mean, I felt like that girl kind of extorted him a little bit.

• 1:36:05Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:05Speaker 03

  You know, like-

• 1:36:06Danny Jones?

  What was that story? It was his OnlyFans girl or something?

• 1:36:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was OnlyFans girl and, you know, you, you, you-

• 1:36:12Danny Jones?

  And he had been like, been with her many times, right?

• 1:36:14Speaker 03

  They were boyfriend or girlfriend.

• 1:36:15Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:36:16Speaker 03

  And, you know, they were into some kink shit. They were doing, you know, like, to each, like, what, what people, what consenting adults do in their bedroom, to each their own.

• 1:36:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:25Speaker 03

  I mean, as long as it's not involving animals and fucking kids.

• 1:36:28Danny Jones?

  Exactly.

• 1:36:28Speaker 03

  Shitting on somebody's chest and just some, just crazy shit. You know, if you're, if you're a swinger or you're fucking whatever, whatever.

• 1:36:36Danny Jones?

  It gets weird when, when you start to add the power dynamic to it, you know, like, well, like with the Harvey Weinstein stuff and with the, and with the Diddy stuff.

• 1:36:44Speaker 03

  When you're in a, when you're in a position of power and you're brokering, you're brokering sex for something else.

• 1:36:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:51Speaker 03

  Now that's a problem.

• 1:36:52Danny Jones?

  Right. And it doesn't even necessarily have to be over the top brokering. It doesn't, it could be unsaid, un, un talked, like, unsaid, right? If you're go, if you're a young girl, seventeen, even sixteen, whatever it is, and you're going to a Diddy party or a, a Harvey Weinstein party or whatever it is, and you're going there and sleeping with these guys, you, you're not just going there because you think these guys are attractive. You're going there because these guys are powerful and you got a shot of getting in on whatever they're a part of.

• 1:37:20Speaker 03

  Right, so I'm not putting the blame on them.

• 1:37:23Danny Jones?

  No, no.

• 1:37:23Speaker 03

  By all means, but they're-

• 1:37:25Danny Jones?

  They're not innocent.

• 1:37:26Speaker 03

  They're putting themselves in a situation.

• 1:37:27Danny Jones?

  Yes.

• 1:37:28Speaker 03

  Where some shit could go down. And, you know, the man, the guy is never gonna get the favorable ruling on that.

• 1:37:34Danny Jones?

  No.

• 1:37:35Speaker 03

  No, ever.

• 1:37:35Danny Jones?

  No.

• 1:37:36Speaker 03

  I mean, even if a girl, seventeen, sixteen, and her and her, and, and her and her two little buddy girls were talking about it on the limo ride over and the limo driver was able to testify, hey, they were strategizing.

• 1:37:48Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:37:48Speaker 03

  The guy would still go down.

• 1:37:49Danny Jones?

  Of course.

• 1:37:50Speaker 03

  As he probably should, you know, I mean, today's world is a different world than when, you know, I was running livestock bitches and, and, and 12 boobs at Christmas.

• 1:38:00Danny Jones?

  Well, here's my problem with it. My problem with it is when you, when you, when all these celebrity parties with these girls going over there claiming, you know, they were getting, uh, taken advantage of or molested or whatever. But these girls are, they're going there on their own will. It's not like they're dragged and handcuffed and put in a cage.

• 1:38:17Speaker 03

  And they're not going to church.

• 1:38:18Danny Jones?

  They're going home at the end of the night, going back to the next party the next weekend. And, and you start, and you make this, these, this is what takes all the attention and everyone freaks out about it, but nobody talks about the fucking children who are trafficked to the tune of like hundreds of thousands all over the United States every single day by super powerful people and put into like, they're taken from foster homes, they're trafficked across the border and put into these trafficking rings.

• 1:38:43Speaker 03

  Very influential, very powerful, untouchable people. That are so, that are so powerful and so influential that nobody even fucking talks about it. And if you do talk about it, watch the fuck out. I mean, like, nobody talks about that. But, you know, it, it, it's just, it's a different world that we live in. And it's so easy to set up an influential guy nowadays that, you know, these athletes and, and other people, they have to have NDAs. I mean, I, here's what I hate. Is I hate when

• 1:39:24Speaker 03

  girl A of age, 21, 22 fucks influential guy 15 years ago and like, like the Danny Matherson guy, guy from, um, from that. Yeah, from that 70s show. Now, I, I don't know all of what happened, but I know it was like 10 years later. 10, 10 years later, these girls came by or whoever came by and said Danny Matherson fucked us dirty and whatever the fuck happened, maybe they were underage. Man, I think that. It's so anti, it's skewed, so anti-men, that I think that there needs to be some type of

• 1:40:09Speaker 03

  time, if, if certain amount of years have gone by, and it wasn't a crime 10 years ago, because you weren't worried about it, but this guy's now become popular, or become famous, or become rich, now all of a sudden it's a problem, I got a, I got a, I got a problem with that. You know, I don't know, I don't know specifically what the Danny- Send us to thirty years to life. Thirty years to life. So let's say you're Danny Matherson, and you're out these, you know, you're living the Hollywood lifestyle of being on a hit show called That 70's Show, and you're fucking, you know, you're fucking- Hell, yeah. You're fucking these hot, you know, little groupie bitches, that are hopefully of age. I don't think his was anything to do with underage. I don't think- No, I don't, I don't think so either. I think it was just, he, he fucked them- Yeah.

• 1:40:54Speaker 03

  And they didn't want to be fucked, I guess, 15 years later. Right. Which is bullshit. I mean, I, how can you say, I don't, I didn't want to be fucked 15 years ago. But 15 years ago, it was okay. Right. But I didn't say anything then. I didn't go and get a meet, now listen, I don't want that to underscore women who get raped and didn't want it, and I hope that the people, women, or something like that, you immediately go and get it reported, and get a rape kit, and go to the cops, and get that motherfucker, that sick fuck that did it to you busted immediately. But for these people that wait 10 years, 15 years, I, I think that's bullshit. Yeah.

• 1:41:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, because it's hard to decipher whether they're telling the truth at that point, right? Because it sometimes just seems like a money grab. It's like, oh, hey, well, I fucked this guy fucking 15 years ago, and I didn't really want to, but I did.

• 1:41:41Speaker 03

  So I was never going to get caught in that trick bag. So people often say you, kind of back to your original question, well, why'd you have surveillance? That's why I had it. Right. I had one, I had one little brush up, and I was ever, so then I'm getting ready to go through a divorce. So I rip out my whole fucking system, I take it to work, okay? And I saved that file. I, I saved that file and burned it to disk. My bad. I did it. I've owned that I did it. I've never said that I didn't do that, and that was one of the, that's the biggest mistake that I've made in my life. I'm here today, I lost it all, I-

• 1:42:16Speaker 03

  Became public enemy number one because I didn't destroy that tape when I should have, which allowed it to be stolen, which allowed it to be shopped, which allowed it to end up doing what it did and it ruined my life. It made Hogan rich, it ruined my life and it caused Mike Calton to take my job. Who's the person who shopped it by the way and sent it to Gawker? It's just so fucking unfair. Till the day they put-

• 1:42:46Danny Jones?

  Does he admit this now?

• 1:42:47Speaker 03

  No, I never knew that part, actually. No.

• 1:42:52Danny Jones?

  But it's in the, it's in all the court records.

• 1:42:53Speaker 03

  Oh, it's, it's, it's in refuto, it's in, it's in whatever.

• 1:42:57Danny Jones?

  And your documentary is the first time that this evidence has like actually been shown to the public?

• 1:43:01Speaker 03

  Yes. Phone, phone records, emails, addresses, you know, an email from Mike Calton to his agent, Tony Burton, saying, where do I send the videotape? An address given, you know, I know, I know the UPS store off of State Road 41 that he shipped it from. I mean, that's how much, that's how much due diligence we've done. And, you know, again, I probably deserved what I got, but he certainly shouldn't still be, you know, doing radio in Tampa, Florida for fucking 12 years thereafter. And, and at the tune of where his company had to write a $52 million check to save his ass. I couldn't survive a $755,000 fine from the FCC. How does, how does he survive that? I, I have no idea.

• 1:43:46Danny Jones?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:43:47Speaker 03

  Other than if they fire him, then they admit that they did it.

• 1:43:53Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:43:54Speaker 03

  So that's the only thing that I could ever come up with. In my, in my, in my documentary, which comes out today, on, on Google Play, Amazon and Apple TV, Video Killed The Radio Star, really takes you, you've seen it. It takes you, I mean, when you watched it, did you, what, did you know any of that shit?

• 1:44:14Danny Jones?

  No. No. I knew none of it.

• 1:44:16Speaker 03

  Because you know why? That lawsuit settled. Cox versus Hogan settled. And never on Channel 13, live, lead story tonight on Channel 13, the lawsuit that got settled. No, settled lawsuits just go away. So that's what happened in my situation. Had Cox versus Hogan went to trial, all of the information basically in this documentary would have come out.

• 1:44:44Speaker 03

  That's so crazy.

• 1:44:45Danny Jones?

  And, and during that FBI sting, when Hogan was getting wired up to go to the Sand Pearl to meet with the people, the extortionists, Brooke was on your show, she said that Hulk told her.

• 1:44:58Speaker 03

  Hogan came back, he came back after the sting and said to Jennifer, his wife, and Brooke, his daughter, Bubba didn't have anything to do with, with, with the distributing or leaking of this tape. Bubba didn't do it.

• 1:45:11Danny Jones?

  So why didn't he try to like, at least repair the friendship with you?

• 1:45:15Speaker 03

  I think.

• 1:45:16Danny Jones?

  Did you ever try to reach out?

• 1:45:17Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, absolutely. I think public perception was, you know, he didn't want people to think that if he, if he acknowledged me or we became friendly again, or I wasn't, you know, public enemy number one, that people may have thought it was a work or it was a wrestling inside job and we did, we did it together. And that's not the case. Uh, but he didn't want that chance of people saying or thinking that. So selfishly, he let me sit here and just fucking absolutely get my life destroyed and didn't give a fuck.

• 1:45:51Danny Jones?

  That's crazy.

• 1:45:52Speaker 03

  I mean, and we were best friends. I mean, we were best friends.

• 1:45:55Danny Jones?

  You had, in the documentary, there's the footage of your wedding where he's like doing the speech and he's the best man saying that you're the only person that he would trust with his kids.

• 1:46:03Speaker 03

  Yes. He's a, he's the godfather of my son. He was the best man on my wedding. Um, it's, it's sad. It's sad because I wish I could have been there for him when he died. I wish I wasn't public enemy number one in his world, but I hope that my documentary, Video Killed the Radio Star, will give people that watch it, the, the true perspective on what I did do and what I didn't do.

• 1:46:31Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:46:31Speaker 03

  And I forever get judged for what I didn't do. If you go and ask, and I said this last time, if you go and ask anybody in Tampa, "Hey, tell me about the Hogan sex tape." Well, his best friend Bubba taped it, tried to fucking extort him, tried to sell it and uh, you know, uh, he's a piece of shit.

• 1:46:51Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:46:52Speaker 03

  Well, I did some of that, but not all of it. And I probably am not the piece of shit that you think I am.

• 1:46:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah, you definitely didn't get anything out of it.

• 1:46:59Speaker 03

  It ruined my, I mean, it ruined my life. It fucking.

• 1:47:01Danny Jones?

  And Hogan got a ton of money out of it.

• 1:47:03Speaker 03

  62 million all in. I mean, you know, and listen to this, in his entire career, he never made more than 10 million in one, in one fiscal year. Really? In his, in his, in his, in his career, the most he ever made was between 10 and 12 million in one year, in one year. So. And this was, what was the peak, do you think? Uh, when he was with WCW. What year, what year was that at Ben? Ninety-nine, two thousand, two thousand and one. He was probably making about eight, eight to 10 million. Right. I know that a couple of times when we were working out, a couple of his pay-per-view checks would come in and they'd be like 1.2 million. And I'd never seen a check that big before. He'd be like, how many zeros are on there, brother? And I'd be like, I don't know, but a lot. I got, I got the best story ever.

• 1:47:48Speaker 03

  Look, I found a check under a candy bar. So listen to this, best story ever. He used to go in for these back injections called first set injections. And the only place that he really thought did him well were, was this place in Beverly Hills. So I, we were best friends. So we would take the six o'clock in the morning Delta direct flight to LA. And he would be, we'd land like at 10 in the morning.

• 1:48:15Speaker 03

  He would go right to the hotel. I mean, I'm sorry, he'd go right to the doctor. I'd go scrub in and be with him. And it was a, it wasn't out, it wasn't, uh, they didn't put him under. But they, they would put these injections in his back. Okay. These first, these first, these first set injections. And they, they basically lasted him about three or four months where he had some relief. You know, his back didn't hurt so bad. It was kind of like a lubrication. It was just kind of like putting a Band-Aid on his back problem. He really knew he needed back surgery, but he would do this for a while. So we're sitting in the Delta Crown room in Tampa one morning. It's like 5:05. The plane loads like in 30 minutes and he has like 300 bucks cash on him.

• 1:48:57Speaker 03

  And he goes, I need some, I need some more money. Uh, so he gets his wallet out and he finds this beat up ATM card. And it's like scratched all up and stuff. And he goes, oh man, I forgot about this account. Linda doesn't even know about this account. Um, and I, and I know his PIN number and I'm not going to say it on the air because it's also his house. Like it's, it's the number that he used for everything in life from his, from his PIN to his house security number. So this, there's a certain number that. Is this when he was living at Willadel? Yes, this is where he's living at Willado.

• 1:49:33Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 1:49:33Speaker 03

  So he goes, brother, bubba, do me a favor. Go down to the ATM and see if you can get. I don't know, 600. See if it'll, it might not be worth, there might not be nothing in there.

• 1:49:45Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:45Speaker 03

  But just get 600 if you can. So I get on there, I stick it in the machine, type in the fucking PIN code. And it says, it starts spitting it out. So I know I'm good for six. And it says, do you want a receipt? Well, I'm like, well, fuck yeah. What I know? Yeah. So I hit the fucking.

• 1:50:01Danny Jones?

  Do you know the balance?

• 1:50:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:50:02Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:50:03Speaker 03

  That's what it said. So I hit it and it.

• 1:50:07Speaker 03

  So I got it out and I looked at it and I was like. So I went over to the sunglass place that sold sunglasses. I said, can I borrow a PIN? They're like, sure, because I wanted to fucking put the commas. There were so many zero, I was wanting, I wanted to take it and do the commas.

• 1:50:23Danny Jones?

  They didn't put the commas in.

• 1:50:24Speaker 03

  Well, no. I mean, they had point zero zero cents, but there was a whole bunch of fucking numbers. So I needed to comment it out.

• 1:50:33Danny Jones?

  Figure where it's at.

• 1:50:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, I needed to.

• 1:50:35Danny Jones?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:50:36Speaker 03

  Four, four point three two five million.

• 1:50:41Danny Jones?

  In an account he didn't.

• 1:50:42Speaker 03

  That he forgot about. That he thought was dead. And I go, he goes, did I have, did you get six? And I go, oh, yeah. I got six. He goes, great. And I gave it back to him. I go. Terry, do you have any idea how much the fucking money is in that account? He goes, no, brother. Eight, two G's, four G's. I go. No, 4.2 million. He goes, fuck, don't tell Linda about that account. Linda never knew about, hit 4.2 million dollars. And I was just like, oh, my God. So he, he, he hit that one. He kind of tucked that one behind his social security card.

• 1:51:19Danny Jones?

  And Linda went after him again after the Gawker case.

• 1:51:21Speaker 03

  Oh, Linda got, I think Linda got 40, I think Linda for all perpetuity gets like. Now, I don't know about death for as far as his estate. I don't think she did shit. But I, for, I think he, she made. Forty percent.

• 1:51:36Danny Jones?

  Of all that.

• 1:51:37Speaker 03

  Of everything.

• 1:51:38Danny Jones?

  No way.

• 1:51:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:51:40Danny Jones?

  How that that was so because that happened during the marriage or during the divorce?

• 1:51:44Speaker 03

  Because they if you if you've been married in Florida more than twenty years, then this fucking ultra gimmick kicks in where you have to now, I think DeSantis changed the law, but before Hogan, when Hogan obviously got divorced in oh seven, it was called like injunctive relief alimony where you had to provide somewhat the same type of lifestyle. After twenty years, you had to provide for your ex for.

• 1:52:16Speaker 04

  Maintaining that.

• 1:52:17Speaker 03

  Maintaining that lifestyle forever.

• 1:52:19Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 1:52:19Speaker 03

  Now, that's been changed, but when he got divorced, it was I think he's grandfathered in.

• 1:52:25Danny Jones?

  I just saw something on Instagram. I saw something somewhere about this football player Tyreek Hill.

• 1:52:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, I just saw it today.

• 1:52:33Danny Jones?

  It listed all those.

• 1:52:34Speaker 03

  Eleven kids. I know.

• 1:52:35Danny Jones?

  She's got more kids than touchdowns.

• 1:52:37Speaker 03

  Yes, he does.

• 1:52:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:52:39Speaker 03

  We said that on the air today. Yeah, yeah. And he's got and you see like he had to give like a hundred and fifty thousand down. And then he got like forty thousand and then he won. He has eleven kids and one baby mama. I think all of them get thirty and then there's a bunch of kickers like, you know, one, one, one baby mama gets like a hundred grand and one baby mama gets like forty grand.

• 1:53:03Danny Jones?

  One of them got like fifty grand a month just for lifestyle maintenance.

• 1:53:06Speaker 03

  Yes, just to maintain her lifestyle that she's accustomed to while living with that motherfucker.

• 1:53:11Danny Jones?

  And that was in Florida because it was he was living in Miami.

• 1:53:14Speaker 03

  I was hot and had a vagina. I'd just be fucking rich dudes. I'd be such a I'd actually be skinny and in shape. I'd go to the gym every day, get some tits.

• 1:53:24Danny Jones?

  It's a great.

• 1:53:26Speaker 03

  Willie over here has to trial concrete for a living.

• 1:53:28Danny Jones?

  Look at him.

• 1:53:29Speaker 03

  Meanwhile, if he had a fucking hot pussy and a set of tits on him, think about how life easy would be for us. We actually got to work. And, you know, but if you're if you're a hot chick, if you're a fucking one of these really, really hot chicks, now you don't now you don't even have to go out.

• 1:53:42Danny Jones?

  Yeah, but.

• 1:53:43Speaker 03

  Now you just go start an OnlyFans. They don't even gotta be that hot anymore.

• 1:53:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah, but the, yeah, but the, it's, there's two sides to everything. At the same, at the, on the other side of the coin, they only have a certain amount of time that that's good for.

• 1:53:53Speaker 03

  Sure. I mean. You can make enough money to live off of them. I know that, but I mean, if you were, if you had your shit together, you're eighteen, nineteen, you're hot as fuck, you're dealing with yourself three, four times a week on, on OnlyFans. Yeah, making a million a month. Making a million a month. You, you need to, you know, and you, and let's say, let's say you time out at twenty-five, but you've made a million a month since you're eighteen. And you had somebody that was responsible enough to fucking keep you on track to not living like a fucking idiot.

• 1:54:20Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:54:20Speaker 03

  You could really. Set for life. Set for life.

• 1:54:23Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:54:24Speaker 03

  Set for life.

• 1:54:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:25Speaker 03

  Retire fucking twenty-two.

• 1:54:26Danny Jones?

  Cards right when you're young.

• 1:54:28Speaker 03

  I actually have known, you know, back in the, back in the nineties and early two thousands, these strippers I would hang out with from the dollhouse and stuff that really did have their shit together.

• 1:54:37Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:37Speaker 03

  And they really, they drove Mercedes's and they lived in fucking, you know, three or four thousand dollar a month fucking cribs, but they were making twenty grand a month stripping.

• 1:54:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:47Speaker 03

  And they were actually, you know. Had three houses. But, but they actually go get, buying rental properties and, you know, making investments and stuff like that. And these women are fifty, fifty-five now and they're set.

• 1:54:58Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:58Speaker 03

  They're fucking, they stripped for ten years. They didn't get caught up in the cocaine and all the fucking stripper drama. They actually had a mission. Most of them went through school. And, and they made a lot of money. Now, I mean, you don't even have to be a stripper anymore. You don't even have to leave the privacy of your own home. You can just kick it out wide at home.

• 1:55:15Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:16Speaker 03

  The shit out of.

• 1:55:16Danny Jones?

  Kick it out wide.

• 1:55:18Speaker 03

  Kick it out wide and the shit out of each other. Just fucking in there, fucking crazy.

• 1:55:23Danny Jones?

  God, dude, Tyler's gonna have to censor the living shit out of this episode so we don't get nuked off YouTube.

• 1:55:27Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 1:55:29Danny Jones?

  It's all right.

• 1:55:29Speaker 03

  Sorry, I'm so sorry.

• 1:55:30Danny Jones?

  It's okay. It's, no, it's fine. It's fine. This is the Bubba special. Again, we can't be, we can't be holding back.

• 1:55:35Speaker 03

  You guys might not even have this thing edited in time for the release.

• 1:55:38Danny Jones?

  No, we'll, we'll have it fine.

• 1:55:39Speaker 03

  See a fast editor.

• 1:55:40Danny Jones?

  Yeah, Tyler's.

• 1:55:40Speaker 03

  You should've told me it was PG. I can go PG.

• 1:55:42Danny Jones?

  No, it's not PG. It's just like certain things, you know, YouTube is like the FCC.

• 1:55:47Speaker 03

  Oh, trust me, I play the YouTube game.

• 1:55:49Danny Jones?

  The YouTube game's tough.

• 1:55:50Speaker 03

  Oh, and you, you know, you pay, you play seven seconds or something. You don't think you'll get a copyright strike and you get a copyright. Copyright strike.

• 1:55:56Danny Jones?

  Well, not only the copyrights, the copyright stuff's easy to navigate. Just don't play videos because then you'll be fine or music, but like the speech censorship is crazy with like the they'll find any excuse to demonetize or shut down a video for different reasons for like saying the F-bomb too many times, talking about sexual stuff, saying the C-word, the four-letter C-word, that'll get you nuked.

• 1:56:18Speaker 03

  I got nuked. I got nuked with Dr. Diaco.

• 1:56:20Danny Jones?

  Talking about the vaccines will get you nuked.

• 1:56:22Speaker 03

  Oh, so Dr. Diaco is a doctor. He's a doctor and he was very aggressive on the ivermectin.

• 1:56:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:31Speaker 03

  He was a dioxycycline zinc, kind of like what Joe, Joe was pushing Joe Rogan, right, right on that same deal. And we're early on in COVID. Now, this isn't Joe Rogan. This isn't an expert. This, this is a doctor who is talking about the prescribing of medication.

• 1:56:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:49Speaker 03

  To his patients.

• 1:56:50Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:56:51Speaker 03

  And how it's working or not.

• 1:56:53Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 1:56:55Speaker 03

  Two-week ban. I was banned for two weeks for going against WHO guidelines because they were all about, they were all about, you know, the shot.

• 1:57:03Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 1:57:03Speaker 03

  And the vaccine.

• 1:57:04Danny Jones?

  On YouTube.

• 1:57:05Speaker 03

  And, and, and you couldn't, but, but I was like, listen, this is a doctor.

• 1:57:10Danny Jones?

  Doesn't matter.

• 1:57:10Speaker 03

  And this is his remedy to fight this disease. And he took a, the, the doctor oath to do good by your patients and try to make them better.

• 1:57:21Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:22Speaker 03

  They didn't care.

• 1:57:23Danny Jones?

  Nope.

• 1:57:23Speaker 03

  They did not care.

• 1:57:25Danny Jones?

  And there's nothing, there's nobody you can talk to. There's no jury you can go in front of. Nope. Just some late, some fricking chick with pink hair, sitting in her house, getting paid to work remotely to, to, to.

• 1:57:35Speaker 03

  Who hates, who hates life.

• 1:57:37Danny Jones?

  Yep, exactly.

• 1:57:38Speaker 03

  And probably men.

• 1:57:39Danny Jones?

  Yep. And there, and you can send emails until you're blue in the face. No one's going to respond to them. They're not going to do anything. They don't care. And it's not like it's, it's, it's, oh God, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how you compare it to the FCC because at the end of the day.

• 1:57:50Speaker 03

  It's worse than the FCC because the FCC, you have clear guidelines.

• 1:57:54Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:57:54Speaker 03

  You know that you can't say tits. You know that you can't say shit. You, you know that you can, you know, it's community guidelines, but you know, you know, the, the words you can't say. But even on regular radio, they weren't regulating. Talking about the vaccine or ivermectin, they weren't, they weren't regulating any of that, the FCC. So if it's goodbye broadcast standards.

• 1:58:19Danny Jones?

  Even during COVID, they weren't?

• 1:58:20Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:58:20Danny Jones?

  Really?

• 1:58:21Speaker 03

  No. Now, some companies were, but I'm an independent, when I, when I, on the terrestrial stations that I'm heard on, I'm an independent contractor. I don't work for that company. I just license my show to them. So I don't work for Cox, or I don't work for iHeart. I work for the Bubba Radio Network.

• 1:58:38Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 1:58:38Speaker 03

  So, um, some companies had, like, iHeart, and they had policies, but nobody could tell me what I could say.

• 1:58:47Danny Jones?

  Yeah, the crazy thing about YouTube and Google, which owns YouTube, is that they're, they make a lot of their money from the pharmaceutical companies. And the pharmaceutical companies are the ones that control all this stuff.

• 1:58:58Speaker 03

  Did you know this, that CBS, the pharmaceutical companies during the COVID deal, got so creative that they didn't want to, during the CBS Evening News and during things like that, they didn't want to actually run the go get the shot commercial, although they, although they did, you know, Pfizer, whatever, go get the shot, Moderna, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine. So they went to CBS and said, we don't want to advertise in between, when you do news and then you go to your three-minute commercial break and then you come back, we don't want to be in that three-minute commercial break as a shot. We want the news stories

• 1:59:40Danny Jones?

  To talk about it.

• 1:59:41Speaker 03

  To be about us.

• 1:59:42Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:59:43Speaker 03

  And so they would show this file footage of completely jam-packed operating rooms that weren't really jam-packed. They were B-roll footage from some other disaster. And they would show ventilators and all this stuff and, and make, make the Covid way more than it really was. And so instead of buying advertisers, they would buy story placements. So CBS would make the story about Covid.

• 2:00:14Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:00:14Speaker 03

  And it was always, you know, pro vaccine, this and this ventilator, this and this. And so they got creative and they actually spent 30% more money that way than just the regular advertising.

• 2:00:26Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it's so crazy. It's it's it's sickening. And and the crazy thing about it is is Google and YouTube. They don't need to do the bidding of these companies. They own a monopoly on advertising across the globe.

• 2:00:40Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:00:40Danny Jones?

  They like, even if you told those companies, no, get effed. Like, we're not going to follow your your rules that you want to impose. I don't think those pharmaceutical companies would have any leg to stand on. They would say, okay, like,

• 2:00:53Danny Jones?

  where else are you going to go? There's nowhere else to go to advertise but Google and YouTube.

• 2:00:56Speaker 03

  Well, but but here's the deal. It's all California based. It's all woke. It's all highly blue liberal. You know, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, I think the majority of the Google and the YouTube and and the Meta and all that, the the majority of the problem you have is where they're based out of, where their management comes from, where they live, how the lifestyles that they live. I mean, you know, people in California are way different than us here, us guys here in Florida. I mean, go to go to Grady Judd in Polk County and rob $940 worth of stuff at Walgreens

• 2:01:36Speaker 03

  and watch how fast you're eating cement and then go to San Francisco and and do it and you probably won't get charged.

• 2:01:42Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:01:43Speaker 03

  That's the difference.

• 2:01:43Danny Jones?

  It's crazy.

• 2:01:44Speaker 03

  It's I, like I said about Joe Rogan, the best thing he ever did was get the fuck out of California. And he was one of the very first.

• 2:01:50Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:01:51Speaker 03

  So, I mean, California is a shit show.

• 2:01:54Danny Jones?

  Well, Gavin Newsom's trying to, uh, he's trying hard right now to like revive his image and he's trying to, he's trying to like slowly tiptoe out of that woke camp and trying to like be more middle of the road, be more of like a guy's guy and and have you just been noticing what he's been doing with his interviews and going on all these big podcasts and stuff like this?

• 2:02:14Speaker 03

  Right. I mean.

• 2:02:17Speaker 03

  He might be the only chance they have. I don't know. I mean, I mean, you know, here's the problem. You could see when the Democratic Party was grooming Barack Obama. You could see it. When they brought him out at the Democratic National Convention during, I think it was during the Bush, the Bush second term, and he was this fresh-faced senator out of, out of Chicago. And Barack Obama wasn't that bad. I mean, Barack Obama did some good stuff. You know, he wasn't so far woke and so far left. You know, he was still a bona fide Democrat. He was a, you know, he was a Democrat, right here, Democrat. Well, the problem is, they were grooming him to be somebody. The Democratic Party is in such shambles now.

• 2:02:59Speaker 03

  Who's their Barack Obama? Who's, who, who are they grooming?

• 2:03:03Danny Jones?

  Candace Owens.

• 2:03:06Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 2:03:07Danny Jones?

  I think she could be the next one, bro.

• 2:03:10Speaker 03

  The problem is, here's the Democratic Party. Just like Elon Musk said.

• 2:03:15Danny Jones?

  Elian?

• 2:03:15Speaker 03

  Elian Musk. Just like Elian Musk said, is, he used to be here with the, with the Democratic Party, right here.

• 2:03:22Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 2:03:22Speaker 03

  Well, now the Democratic Party is here.

• 2:03:25Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:25Speaker 03

  And, you know, it, it could, it could survive here, but it's, it's, it's way over here. Whereas the Republicans, and they're, they're just as guilty with their evangelical anti-abortion bullshit. I mean, like, you know, I mean, it's just, they both have gone to, they both have gone so far one way that that guy that's stuck there in the middle, you know, we're the ones that make the most sense, but we aren't necessarily the ones that are people, that are making any, any decisions or, you know, I mean, we're just fucking stupid streamers and podcasters. We're not politicians. So you gotta be one way or the other. And, you know, I, I, I don't know, I, we could sit here and talk politics all night, but I would rather not because it's not fun and, and it's so fucking polarizing, you know?

• 2:04:10Danny Jones?

  Yeah. It really is. It really is. And it's like the, like what you're describing is, it's like the horseshoe theory, where the, when you get to the extreme right and the extreme left, you come together.

• 2:04:20Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:04:21Danny Jones?

  You know, it's like the bootlegger and the Baptist.

• 2:04:23Speaker 03

  Like, here's the deal. You know what? Like, okay, I believe in guns. I believe that you should be able to take your 18-year-old girlfriend to the abortion clinic, smoking a joint with your handgun. Yeah.

• 2:04:36Danny Jones?

  Yep.

• 2:04:36Speaker 03

  And that covers all, that covers it all.

• 2:04:38Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:04:39Speaker 03

  That's pro, that's, that's pro-gun, that's right. That's pro-abortion, which is left, right? I don't know where marijuana, I don't know where marijuana stands and, and, and that's, I don't know. I don't know who's more, probably the left is probably more pro marijuana than right. So, you know, I believe in abortion, weed and handguns.

• 2:05:02Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:05:03Speaker 03

  And I think that's the way most Americans are.

• 2:05:07Danny Jones?

  Definitely.

• 2:05:08Speaker 03

  But we're the minority, but we're really not, we're really the majority.

• 2:05:13Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:13Speaker 03

  And it's just these fringe.

• 2:05:14Danny Jones?

  We don't realize it because it's only the only lives on the internet.

• 2:05:16Speaker 03

  Right, right. And you get these fringe, like trans, let's talk about trans.

• 2:05:22Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:22Speaker 03

  It doesn't affect anybody in this room. It doesn't affect anybody that I know. It doesn't affect anybody that I associate with. And if a person wants to do that, great, let them go ahead and do that, let them trans. But there should only be one rule. They should have to be an adult.

• 2:05:40Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:05:40Speaker 03

  When you're 18 and you want to cut off your wiener, go ahead. If you're 18 and you want to get a set of boobs, go ahead. If you're 18 and you want to attach a wiener, go ahead. But you gotta be 18.

• 2:05:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:54Speaker 03

  You can't be like in California where their law is if you're a kid, you can hide it from your parents of what you want to become and tell your teacher and your teacher will.

• 2:06:04Danny Jones?

  Can hide it.

• 2:06:04Speaker 03

  Your teacher can hide it from your parents. Fundamentally, man, that's just not cool, no matter how you slice it, no matter what political party you are in.

• 2:06:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I think that's the symptom of.

• 2:06:13Speaker 03

  And like.

• 2:06:14Danny Jones?

  Empire in decline.

• 2:06:15Speaker 03

  Do you know how badass of a softball player I would have been on the, on the worst all-girls softball team? I mean, I was a pretty badass football player, but I would have been hitting dingers. I would have been, I would have been Bubba Bonds if I was playing against bitches back in 1984. I would have just been fucking driving them out. I mean, so that's what you can do now in some states. Hey, I'm. I'm backup Jones, uh, when I play with the boys, but I'm fucking all star Willie. And when I'm all star Willie, when I'm playing, when I'm playing, when I'm Martha McGuire.

• 2:06:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:06:48Speaker 03

  When I'm playing, fucking.

• 2:06:49Speaker 04

  Fucking Mark McGuire with a wig on.

• 2:06:51Speaker 03

  And that's what, that's what some of these states allow.

• 2:06:54Danny Jones?

  The crazy thing too is, uh, how like a lot of the crazy trans activist people are now really into violence and guns and stuff like this. Have you seen them wearing the shirts with like the machine guns on them?

• 2:07:05Speaker 03

  And you, you look at the school shooters.

• 2:07:07Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:08Speaker 03

  And there's a percentage of them that are, that are either have transition, were transitioning, were into it. Um, you know, had books on it, you know?

• 2:07:19Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:19Speaker 03

  So I just like.

• 2:07:21Danny Jones?

  And that recent, the recent one, the guy who shot up the, uh.

• 2:07:24Speaker 03

  He was trans.

• 2:07:25Danny Jones?

  The, um, the Christian or the Catholic church or whatever it was.

• 2:07:28Speaker 03

  And had that whole manifesto.

• 2:07:29Danny Jones?

  He regretted it. He wanted to go back to, he was like.

• 2:07:32Speaker 04

  He wished he never did it.

• 2:07:32Danny Jones?

  He wished he never did it. Yeah.

• 2:07:34Speaker 03

  Right. And just like, you know, I don't know, it just the, these, these fringe topics that we talk about that make the news really don't affect any of us.

• 2:07:44Danny Jones?

  No, it's, it's the Wawa.

• 2:07:45Speaker 03

  But it's what divides us all.

• 2:07:47Danny Jones?

  My friend Julian has this, uh, great theory called, he calls it, he lives in New Jersey. He calls it the Wawa theory. He's like, you go out, you live on Twitter all day and you, you think that the world's going up in flames. You know, everyone wants to kill, the trans people are shooting up everyone, you know, the, the Nazis are pro, are marching down the street on this street and everything's going up in smoke. But you step up from the computer, drive your car to Wawa and you see the fat chick with green hair holding the door for the Vietnam veteran.

• 2:08:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:08:17Danny Jones?

  You know?

• 2:08:17Speaker 03

  The problem is most people are recluse and they, they're living, remember how we were talking about earlier about the metasphere and how we could be the mayor of, of.

• 2:08:28Danny Jones?

  Yeah, right.

• 2:08:29Speaker 03

  That's, that's the problem of the world that, you know, when we were kids, we had our bikes and we, we were out, out late until the streetlights came on and we were out there just, you know, making forts and trying to find our dad Playboy books and you know, shit like that. But we, I, I was gonna, I would ride over to Danny's house or. Danny would come over to my place and I didn't have to talk to him through a headset or anything like that.

• 2:08:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:51Speaker 03

  You know, that's why, that's why the younger generation can't date efficiently because they don't know how to talk to.

• 2:08:56Danny Jones?

  They don't.

• 2:08:57Speaker 03

  They, they don't, some of our homeschooled, so you don't even go to school with girls or boys, girls, boys, boys, girls. You, you don't really know how to talk or interact because everything you do is electronically. Now let's add on the other fuck with factor and that is AI. I mean, where are we headed there? I mean, I asked AI to tell me about Bubba the Love Sponge and it wrote something better than any publicist I could have ever paid written. It wrote everything.

• 2:09:28Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:09:28Speaker 03

  I mean, from my hog deal to the Hogan scandal to everything. I mean, it wrote everything. And I was like, I couldn't have.

• 2:09:37Danny Jones?

  Accurately?

• 2:09:38Speaker 03

  Accurately.

• 2:09:39Speaker 04

  In fucking 10 seconds.

• 2:09:40Speaker 03

  In 14 seconds.

• 2:09:42Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:42Speaker 03

  And it was better. I've had publicists before and they're usually about 2,500 a month when you're really rolling hard. And there's no publicist that could have written something that accurate about me.

• 2:09:52Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:09:53Speaker 03

  It's like.

• 2:09:54Danny Jones?

  Fucking crazy. Making people lazy. You don't have to do the work anymore. You don't think, and make it so you don't have to use your brain anymore. You don't have to do anything.

• 2:10:00Speaker 03

  But what, what, where does it come? Where do we start? Have you guys seen, it was, it was on Netflix called Companion? Have you seen that?

• 2:10:09Danny Jones?

  No.

• 2:10:09Speaker 03

  Oh, it's about this guy. And it, he orders a artificial intelligent girlfriend named Ivy. And she's like.

• 2:10:19Danny Jones?

  This is a real documentary or is this fiction?

• 2:10:21Speaker 03

  Oh, it's fiction.

• 2:10:22Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:10:22Speaker 03

  It's fiction. It's a movie.

• 2:10:24Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:24Speaker 03

  But it's fiction.

• 2:10:25Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:10:25Speaker 03

  But it, it's, I don't think we're that far off from it and this, and so.

• 2:10:32Danny Jones?

  Well, have you seen Her? Spike Jonze's movie, Her?

• 2:10:34Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:10:35Danny Jones?

  With Joaquin Phoenix?

• 2:10:36Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:10:36Speaker 04

  That's the one I was thinking of.

• 2:10:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah. That's the original one. Oh my God. That's one of my favorite movies of all time.

• 2:10:42Speaker 04

  Falls in love with an AI.

• 2:10:43Danny Jones?

  Yeah, this was, this, I think her came out in like the early 2000s, Steve.

• 2:10:48Speaker 03

  Oh, so way ahead of this.

• 2:10:49Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:10:50Speaker 03

  So Companion, this guy has this hot ass bitch and he even went in and set up how they met, where they met at. He set it up, he set it up.

• 2:10:59Danny Jones?

  Oh, 2013.

• 2:11:00Speaker 03

  He set it up that they met at the grocery store and they started flirting with each other. And then they fell in love and then they start, then they went to this weekend getaway. And if, if, if from there it just turns and then there's this gay guy and he orders a gay, a gay AI robot. And you can have, you can on your phone determine, you can fix every, you can determine. And so Ivy, the guy who owned Ivy, now she fucks and she, I mean, you know, she, she does it all. I mean, she's, she looks, but you can put her, her intelligent level, you know, from dumb to smart. So he had, there she is right there.

• 2:11:40Danny Jones?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:11:41Speaker 03

  And

• 2:11:42Danny Jones?

  That looks creepy.

• 2:11:43Speaker 03

  Somehow she turns against him and she grabs his phone and she, and he has her as dumb at 40%. And she jacks herself up to a hundred percent so she can outsmart the motherfucker. And she outsmarts him and ends up killing him.

• 2:11:56Danny Jones?

  No way.

• 2:11:58Speaker 03

  It's so great.

• 2:11:59Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:12:00Speaker 03

  It's so great. Oh, yeah.

• 2:12:01Danny Jones?

  There's so many good movies based on this exact premise.

• 2:12:04Speaker 03

  But how, how, I mean, I don't think we're that far from that.

• 2:12:07Danny Jones?

  No, I don't think so either. No, we're getting closer. At all. We're getting closer and it's ramping up even more.

• 2:12:11Speaker 03

  I think maybe in our life, I'll probably die before you, Danny, because you're on roids. But I'm just saying.

• 2:12:16Danny Jones?

  Baba, I'm not on roids. You're on roids. You and concrete, you and concrete club over here are on roids.

• 2:12:22Speaker 03

  Fat roids. You're on, you're on bodybuilding roids. I'm just saying, probably in my lifetime, I, but I think in your lifetime, in your lifetime, you're going to have to deal with, am I talking to a real person? Or am I talking to a fucking robot?

• 2:12:37Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:12:37Speaker 03

  I really do. I, I think, I think, I think that, I mean, who would, who would have thought? The advancements we've made in the last 10 years. You know, just think of the advancement we've made in electronic cars and space travel and, and, and just these AI now that, you know, the AI, the AI that they have out now that are getting pretty damn. You know, pretty, pretty, pretty damn fluid, if you will.

• 2:13:03Danny Jones?

  Well, I mean, for sure on Instagram, I get tricked every day with videos that I think are real that are AI.

• 2:13:09Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 2:13:10Danny Jones?

  It looks insanely.

• 2:13:11Speaker 03

  Think about this, you're thirty eight, I'm fifty nine, I'm old as, I'm a boomer compared to you. So I get tricked double the amount of time.

• 2:13:18Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 2:13:18Speaker 03

  I mean, there's so many times I'll come up with a story and my producers will be like, uh, bubba, that's AI. I'm like, oh shit, I feel real stupid, you know, because I thought it was for real, you know, I mean.

• 2:13:28Danny Jones?

  Yeah, it happens every day, man. It's crazy. It's everywhere.

• 2:13:31Speaker 03

  The next thing.

• 2:13:33Danny Jones?

  I gotta take a leak real quick.

• 2:13:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:13:34Danny Jones?

  We'll be right back. We're back from words.

• 2:13:37Speaker 03

  We're back from words.

• 2:13:38Danny Jones?

  What are we talking about? AI? Technology and AI.

• 2:13:43Speaker 03

  Let's talk about your new studios. You've been telling your fans about that at all?

• 2:13:46Danny Jones?

  No, we haven't talked about it at all, really.

• 2:13:47Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:13:48Danny Jones?

  But we're moving in soon. We're trying, well, the.

• 2:13:50Speaker 03

  What's your move in date? Because my, my move in date is hopefully March one of next year.

• 2:13:56Danny Jones?

  For.

• 2:13:56Speaker 03

  My new studio.

• 2:13:57Danny Jones?

  Oh, you got, oh, you already got your new place?

• 2:13:59Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, I got my new place.

• 2:14:01Danny Jones?

  And you're building it out right now?

• 2:14:02Speaker 03

  Building it out right now. And see, you gotta understand, my studio was made for terrestrial radio.

• 2:14:07Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:14:08Speaker 03

  You've been in there.

• 2:14:08Danny Jones?

  You've been, so you've been in that building for how long?

• 2:14:11Speaker 03

  Since ten.

• 2:14:12Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:14:13Speaker 03

  Prior to that, I was in another building, not too far down the road, which was much smaller, much kind of like this.

• 2:14:17Danny Jones?

  Okay.

• 2:14:18Speaker 03

  And then I bought that big place that had upstairs down where I am now.

• 2:14:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:21Speaker 03

  And, and I have goats out back and, and all that, but, um, so I'm, I'm in the process of kind of downsizing.

• 2:14:28Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:14:29Speaker 03

  And you're in the process of upsizing, but you know, today's world is the amount of equipment that you don't need compared to what you did need.

• 2:14:38Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:14:38Speaker 03

  When I was rolling hard back in two thousand and eleven, when I bought that place, I mean, you needed, I mean, just the amount of equipment, our rack room is the size of this whole room.

• 2:14:50Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:14:51Speaker 03

  You know, with, for equipment and mic processing and, you know, everything is, everything has become more simpler and easier to do now that we don't need, we don't need a stage, we don't need a shower, we don't need a bar, we don't need a stripper pole, you know, we don't need any of that anymore. Because I don't got strippers in there pissing in coffee cans and, and, and, and doing, doing the stuff that I used to do that, not because I don't want to do, you can, you couldn't do what I used to do anywhere.

• 2:15:17Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:15:17Speaker 03

  Unless it was OnlyFans.

• 2:15:19Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:15:19Speaker 03

  Back when I used to have the strippers in there and we would do drag racing and we would do, you know. You know, like, you know, What was drag racing? Well, now that you ask, is you take two girls and you put them on a couch and you put towels underneath them and some girls can and some girls cannot. And you have time and distance. So you say, ready, go. And they start. Take care of themselves? Taking care of themselves. And the one that's the first is the winner for the speed. And then you have a distance one. And there's a girl that we had that could from here to that screen. And I'm not kidding you. She won the distance.

• 2:16:04Speaker 03

  This was all on film? Yeah, I got it on film. I have all this on film. And this was allowed to be on radio. The FCC didn't care. Oh, no, no, that was on Sirius XM. Oh, Sirius XM. When we had a Sibian, a Monkey Rocker, you know, we had, I mean, we had, literally, we would have girls with strap on. Wow. Having sex with each other. Oh, my God. While, while giving oral to 25 Cent, the black guy.

• 2:16:33Speaker 03

  And you wonder why I can't get guests. At 7:00 AM? No, that was like 4:00 PM. We were after noon drive. We weren't waking people up with that.

• 2:16:44Speaker 03

  You know, my most, you know, my most famous, my most famous contest in Tampa ever, and I'm thinking about bringing it back, was the 12 boobs of Christmas, where I gave 12 sets of tits away to flat chested women every Christmas. Right, I remember that. And we couldn't do that anymore because Dr. Diaco's competition called and the Board of Health, the Board of Medicine, the Board of Doctors or whatever, and made it illegal to have a contest on the radio. And so we couldn't do it anymore because they're, because Dan would get. We get a thousand women that would sign up for a pair of boobs and then Dan would only

• 2:17:24Speaker 03

  12 would win, but the other 980 would get, no, no, they would get coupons for 25% off. Wow. Like so that, so. So they're getting them anyway. So that, so we would do like 50 finalists and 12 won and then the other 38 would get like. Get a BOGO. No, like, like literally 50% off. Wow. So that's like Dan's cost. That's about his cost. Right. And then the other 925 would get 25% off. So a $5,000 boob job back in the day now all

• 2:18:03Speaker 03

  of a sudden is 3,500 and he couldn't book them. I mean, he would literally be doing 25 boob jobs a week and the next doctor in Tampa would be doing six. How many could you possibly do in a day? He can do one in 52 minutes.

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• 2:18:47Speaker 03

  One pair?

• 2:18:48Danny Jones?

  How, what's the most he's done in a day? Do you know?

• 2:18:50Speaker 03

  I think the most he's ever done in a day is eight. Whoa, eight sets? Eight sets. You gotta, you gotta understand though.

• 2:18:57Danny Jones?

  I guess you're never doing one.

• 2:18:57Speaker 03

  But, but, but you understand he, he would, when we were, when we would do this contest, he would, you know, you can look at a girl and if she's a little bit older and you have to do a little lipo here to get that one to do, he would pick the best candidates. Right. That, that, that he could do the quickest and have zero complications. Right. So, you know, he was the doctor that was picking out the winners because he would.

• 2:19:21Speaker 03

  As part of the entrance, you would have to take a picture of your, and it was private, but you'd have to take a, submit a picture to the doctor with your shirt off. So he knew what you, it was a, it was a medical file.

• 2:19:32Danny Jones?

  Right, sure.

• 2:19:33Speaker 03

  So.

• 2:19:33Danny Jones?

  HIPAA.

• 2:19:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, so you would take a picture of your shirt off, so he could get an idea of what you had stocked. And he would be able to, like, you know, if a girl had him just drooping down and she, you know, he would stay away from that.

• 2:19:45Danny Jones?

  That's gonna be an expensive lift kit.

• 2:19:46Speaker 03

  Right, and you need a lift kit on that.

• 2:19:48Danny Jones?

  Right, right, right, right.

• 2:19:49Speaker 03

  So he'd get that twenty year old who hasn't had a kid, who's just got a really good, nice set of natural boobs. You know, like a thirty-two B natural, that wanted to jack him up to a thirty-four C, you know, and he would pick those. So he could get them done and he could do a boob job at an hour. You know, whereas if you get a, you know, you get a mom who's had a couple of kids and she has to have a little, little nip, you know, she has to, he has to kind of navigate them differently when you got, you know, there's different levels of, of, of, of what you have, of what you have to do. You know, like, sometimes you have to take a little liposuction here to make it set right and stuff like that. So he wouldn't take any of those cases at all.

• 2:20:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah, you don't want to put a, have to worry about putting a brand new suspension on like a ninety-five day.

• 2:20:35Speaker 03

  Right, right, you just want to put new wheels on it and let it roll.

• 2:20:38Danny Jones?

  Right, right.

• 2:20:38Speaker 03

  So, I mean, but he, but then we would, one of the things about the twelve boobs at Christmas was, after you got your, your titties, you would have to come to the studio and show us. So that was part of the deal. So we, you know, six months later after these girls.

• 2:20:53Danny Jones?

  Oh, I can see how that could go south.

• 2:20:54Speaker 03

  Oh, but then I also owned, I had twenty-two fifty-sevens consent forms on all these chicks. And where I kicked myself in the ass is I was gonna come up with a year, a yearly calendar with the twelve girls each month. And sell like a Hooters calendar, but it was gonna be a Bubba Army calendar with all these topless bitches, but I never, I never, I.

• 2:21:17Speaker 03

  I missed, I missed, I missed a lot of money there.

• 2:21:19Danny Jones?

  I think, I think there, you probably could have gotten a lot of trouble too. They probably, they probably would have come after you for that.

• 2:21:23Speaker 03

  No, they, they could not. My 2257 was-

• 2:21:26Danny Jones?

  They were rock solid?

• 2:21:26Speaker 03

  Rock solid.

• 2:21:27Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:21:28Speaker 03

  To the point where it said, "I can even sell your image. I own your image. The image that you're submitting to me, I own, and I can sell and repurpose it in any way I want. Chicks will sign anything for new tits."

• 2:21:42Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:21:42Speaker 03

  Let's just be honest.

• 2:21:43Danny Jones?

  That's true. What, and then, what, what happened with the, uh, the story that you haven't told, which I think is a, uh, interesting story, is about the hog. The slaughtered hog? What was the stuff? What year was that? That was when you were doing, that was when you were doing the Power Pig?

• 2:21:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. I went on trial. They put me on trial for that.

• 2:21:59Danny Jones?

  And that was, uh-

• 2:21:59Speaker 03

  I was facing five years in prison for that.

• 2:22:01Danny Jones?

  That was your first big, uh, big lawsuit?

• 2:22:04Speaker 03

  No, I had one from a, from a state trooper that I called, you know, some guy. I was with the Power Pig back in the day and we were going down to Kentucky Fried Chicken in Bradenton to hand out free chicken boxes to the homeless.

• 2:22:16Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:22:17Speaker 03

  And we were doing something good and I'm on the inter, I'm on the Power Pig van going about 90 on the sky.

• 2:22:22Danny Jones?

  You gotta make it funny. You gotta do it at KFC.

• 2:22:25Speaker 03

  Well, no, they were our sponsor.

• 2:22:27Danny Jones?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:22:27Speaker 03

  So they were, they, they were, you know, it was in conjunction with, it was in conjunction with-

• 2:22:31Danny Jones?

  Fucking funny.

• 2:22:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was, and it was like, you know, it was a, it, it was, it was with Kentucky Fried Chicken and we'd already done it like in Largo and Lakeland.

• 2:22:41Danny Jones?

  Didn't you get sponsored by Yaya's?

• 2:22:42Speaker 03

  I was sponsored by Yaya's. Whatever happened to them?

• 2:22:45Danny Jones?

  We were talking about that the other day.

• 2:22:46Speaker 03

  Is there still one on-

• 2:22:46Danny Jones?

  The mashed potatoes and gravy and the frickin' chicken-

• 2:22:49Speaker 03

  The, the ranch dressing, the buttermilk ranch dressing.

• 2:22:54Danny Jones?

  Oh my god.

• 2:22:54Speaker 03

  I probably have 50 pounds just because of that on me.

• 2:22:56Danny Jones?

  I'm salivating right, just thinking about it.

• 2:22:58Speaker 03

  Is there still one on fourth? Did they close it down?

• 2:23:00Danny Jones?

  I don't know.

• 2:23:00Speaker 03

  They closed them all down, man, but.

• 2:23:03Danny Jones?

  I think there's one up in Dunedin that we found, but that was-

• 2:23:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, but that used to be an old Long John Silver's and it was kinda shitty. But, oh, Yaya's, oh my god. So anyway, I was driving the Power Pig van and I was speeding on the highway.

• 2:23:16Danny Jones?

  Hmm.

• 2:23:17Speaker 03

  And they had the aircraft up and they were timing you that way, so I got pulled over. And this, this old cop came up and started fucking with me. And of course, I got a ticket. And of course, I just didn't get on the air that night and say I got stopped by a lovely police officer. I just drug him through the mud like you wouldn't believe. That was my first lawsuit. Called him an old grandpa. He had a Geritol drip and all that kinda stuff. He took me to court, uh, and I won. That was my first one. Then my second one was a hog deal and we had a thing, uh, called roadkill barbecue and it was for Marilyn Manson or Metallica

• 2:23:55Speaker 03

  tickets and we wanted people to go get roadkill like possum and raccoon and squirrel, things that had been hitting by cars and we were gonna barbecue them and make listeners eat them for concert tickets. So it was going great. We, we had a plan for a Friday and all of a sudden at five in the morning, this hunter calls in. He's a professional hunter and trapper. He's got a Florida license and people paid this guy 500 to take wild feral hogs off of their property because those wild feral hogs are just, I mean, they will root up your entire lawn. So they would have called him as a professional hunter to come and kill these hogs and take

• 2:24:40Speaker 03

  them off our property. So he calls us up at 5:30, 30 minutes before the show starts and says, hey, I know you guys are doing roadkill barbecue today, but what if I bring a hog? I got a real live hog I just trapped and I'll kill him right there in the parking lot, the humane way to kill him. There's three, three ways you can kill a hog. With a bow and arrow, with a gun, or you can slice its neck. Well, we couldn't use a bow and arrow or a gun because we're in city limits. So the hogs, the, the hunter sliced- So he brought you the hog live? Brought us the hog live. And so that was mistake one. So we call the Florida Fish and Wildlife Emergency Hotline and we get ahold of a real, for a real game warden and we tell them where

• 2:25:23Speaker 03

  it located at 4002 Gandy and we wanna do, we have a professional hunter that wants to kill a hog and we wanna eat it. We wanna barbecue it. He said, well, you need to cut its throat and if you'd like for it to be less gamy, the, for the meat to be less test, less gamy- Yeah. Then you, right before you kill it, you cut off its testicles- Hmm. And then you cut, slit its throat. Okay. That way, if you don't, if you slit its throat and it still has its testicles, it gets a testosterone surge and taints the meat. Interesting. So they, they, the hunter did it. We're live on the air, you know, raising hell. Yeah.

• 2:26:04Speaker 03

  Couple, couple of saleswomen call the cops and the cops show up. They look at the state statute book. We did it according to the state statute. Now, it was distasteful and I would never do that ever again. If I was, it makes me cringe today because I love animals. I, I'm not a hunter or anything like that, but we didn't do anything wrong.

• 2:26:30Danny Jones?

  That's what you would do even if you weren't rolling the cameras around air, right? That's the way you would do it.

• 2:26:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's how you do it.

• 2:26:35Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:26:35Speaker 03

  And so we did it. We didn't waste any of the meat. The, the hog didn't die for entertainment purposes and we threw the carcass in the back. We, they, they actually, we ate it. We, we had barbecue that day for all the, the 150 fans that were there. And they organized with the state attorney and said it was felony animal cruelty for entertainment purposes. There is no state statute about that. And they arrested me and put me on trial and I was in front of a jury trial. Um, they deliberated for a week. We were able to present, uh, four or five expert witnesses, veterinarians and hunters that said that we did it the correct way.

• 2:27:20Speaker 03

  The state wasn't able to produce any witnesses because they couldn't find anybody said it was distasteful and I, and it was crude and it was shocking. That's the shit that I do, but it wasn't illegal. And in a jury deliberated for 52 minutes while the state served them ham sandwiches for lunch, needless to say. And I was clear, I was cleared, you know, cleared of that. Otherwise I was facing five years in prison. And, and so that was probably one of the most scarier things that I've did. And you know what? Thinking about it now and it's, it was really not cool. I'm now a member of PETA. I have, I'm, I'm a member of PETA.

• 2:28:00Danny Jones?

  And you're a vegetarian, vegan, which is commendable.

• 2:28:02Speaker 03

  I eat red meat. I mean, I was trying to find a McDonald's on the way here. I ended up stopping at the subway down the street, but you know, I was not late. I was one minute before, before I was supposed to be here.

• 2:28:13Danny Jones?

  You were.

• 2:28:14Speaker 03

  And, um, but I, I ate a, I ate Subway on the way here, but no, I'm not a vegetarian, but I am, but I am a member of PETA because I, I don't believe in being cruel to animals or anything like that. And, uh, so, yeah.

• 2:28:27Danny Jones?

  Such a crazy fucking story. You and Howard were like the most persecuted radio personalities.

• 2:28:33Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 2:28:34Danny Jones?

  And that was part of what made you guys so fun. Because you guys were always getting in trouble with the law and you guys were always talking about it. Talking shit about the politicians who were doing corrupt shit in your towns.

• 2:28:45Speaker 03

  The big, one of the biggest troubles I ever got was Mark Ober. There was a guy, um, I forget what the kid's name was.

• 2:28:53Speaker 03

  He was, he was 15 years old and there was Jesse Hargrove and another kid were seven, were, were 16 and 17. They lived in Gibsonton and they took this 15 year old boy out. They lived in a trailer park, imagine that. From Gibsonton and they took this boy out of his house, took him down to the creek. They had sex with him.

• 2:29:14Danny Jones?

  Oh, God.

• 2:29:15Speaker 03

  And shot him in the back of the head and killed him execution style. These two, this, a 16 and a 17 year old were the bad guys and the 15 year old was the victim. Well, Mark Ober gets on and starts saying that he's going to try these two kids as juveniles. And there's a law in Florida that if a crime is so heinous, if you're 16 or 17, the judge can bump or the state attorney can bump it up to a, to an adult crime. It was a difference between them doing like five years in prison or life in prison. So Mark Ober chose to choose, chose to, to prosecute them as juvies. And I flipped out, flipped out on 98 Rock.

• 2:29:58Speaker 03

  I had everybody send, at that time, remember faxes when you had a fax machine? I, I burned up two or three fax machines within the state attorney's office. And Mark Ober made it his personal vendetta to fuck with me for the rest of my, and, and to this day, to the rest of my career in, in Tampa, I always had that Mark Ober shadow over me. I just had an employee extort, I just, I just had an employee embezzle $200,000 of my business and I fired him.

• 2:30:28Speaker 03

  And the state attorney, uh, because it was me, uh, refused to prosecute because, um, I allowed him to say goodbye on the air and I didn't make an example out of him. I let him go because he was a friend, but I still wanted him arrested and I allowed him to say goodbye. Just, I didn't tell the fans necessarily. How long ago was this? Um, a year, two years ago. Oh, wow. Two years ago and, um, it went through the state attorney's office and because I didn't get on the air and say, hey, this piece of shit stole $200,000 from me. Instead, I let him get on the air and say, uh, you know, I'm moving on, um, you know, because I didn't want to, you know, I, I tried to be a good guy for once. I tried, I tried to actually be a good guy.

• 2:31:11Speaker 03

  And the state attorney used me being nice against me and said, well, it looks like you didn't really care or that you, you kind of knew about it and they chose not to press charges because it's me. Jesus. I mean, just like the no file on the Hogan sex tape. You know, they didn't, they didn't file, they never, they never, never filed charges on the people that stole it. They never filed charges on the people that extorted Hogan. They never filed charges on the people that distributed it. None of that because it was me. I mean, Mike Calta, um, punched my girlfriend and my fiancee in the face at a public event two years ago. What?

• 2:31:53Speaker 03

  Punched her in the face, took her phone from her, punched her in the face and because she's my fiancee, they didn't press charges and they told her that she's lucky, she didn't go to jail because she was the aggressor. She's five foot one, 105 pounds. Oh, my God. Oh, there's video of it. I wish you could see it. Really? Yeah, I wish you could see. On YouTube? Yeah, there's video of it. How does he search for it? Type in, um, go to my channel, which is the Bubba Army and then just type in Mike Calta and wait till you see what he did to her. She walked, she walked up to him at a personal appearance. He was at a personal appearance at a gun, at a Shark Coast Tactical

• 2:32:35Speaker 03

  and she walked up because nobody's ever asked this question and she had her phone and she said, Mike Calta, Mike Calta, can I ask you a few questions? And he's like, sure, come on in, welcoming her in a public. Keep on going down, down, down, down, right, uh, up, up, up, let me see, here we go.

• 2:32:53Danny Jones?

  That's it? Two years ago?

• 2:32:56Speaker 03

  So, wait, you see this?

• 2:32:58Speaker 05

  I was joking, I was gonna tackle her, I was, come, be my friend, I'm all in, I'm sorry.

• 2:33:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, so she's asking, she's, she's asking him...

• 2:33:06Danny Jones?

  He looks drunk.

• 2:33:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, so she, you can see he's really nice, he doesn't know who she is, so he thinks he's gonna get some ass, thinks it's some groupie, and so she asks him questions about the sex tape. Right, I mean, you know, and, and...

• 2:33:23Speaker 03

  You can fast forward it a little bit, I'd say I'd fast forward it maybe, yeah, about right there, about right there.

• 2:33:29Speaker 05

  Where is the lie?

• 2:33:30Speaker 06

  I understand that.

• 2:33:31Speaker 05

  But answer my question, where is the lie?

• 2:33:33Speaker 06

  Okay, so you're admitting that you did that, I understand.

• 2:33:35Speaker 05

  It's in, it's in court records.

• 2:33:36Speaker 03

  So wait till you see, Danny, wait till you see this, and guess what?

• 2:33:42Speaker 03

  They were gonna arrest her. Just watch this.

• 2:33:44Speaker 05

  I have not been able to tell anything, I'm under a gag order, so when did I ever say that? If you could show me one time where I said, "I've told everything",

• 2:33:51Speaker 03

  It starts getting real good.

• 2:33:53Speaker 05

  Then I'll tell you I'm lying, I have not been able to talk about it.

• 2:33:55Speaker 06

  Okay, alright, next question.

• 2:33:57Speaker 05

  So admit that you're wrong.

• 2:33:58Speaker 06

  I admit that I'm wrong on that, you're admitting to that.

• 2:34:01Speaker 05

  And put it in your face, and, no, your face.

• 2:34:02Speaker 03

  So she, she, so, he makes her admit that she's wrong about a certain ass.

• 2:34:08Speaker 06

  You forward an email.

• 2:34:09Speaker 05

  So put that, put that on camera.

• 2:34:10Speaker 06

  Okay, I got that.

• 2:34:12Speaker 05

  But you're not, you're not being truthful with your, but you're not being truthful with yourself.

• 2:34:15Speaker 06

  Let's talk about September 27th.

• 2:34:16Speaker 05

  You're not being truthful with yourself, I'm, I'm being, I'm being honest with you.

• 2:34:19Speaker 06

  Okay, let's talk about the...

• 2:34:20Speaker 05

  But now you're not interested in the truth.

• 2:34:21Speaker 06

  I am interested in the truth. Let's talk about September 27th, when your agent checked in.

• 2:34:26Speaker 05

  And why would I waste my time talking about that?

• 2:34:28Speaker 06

  We're not, don't try to deter, don't, don't try to deter the facts.

• 2:34:31Speaker 05

  I'm not deterring any facts.

• 2:34:32Speaker 03

  They're in public, at a personal appearance.

• 2:34:35Speaker 06

  Okay?

• 2:34:36Speaker 05

  I love this.

• 2:34:37Speaker 06

  Okay, I love this too. The next one, when you, when you...

• 2:34:42Speaker 03

  This is, this is what makes him flip out, this makes him flip out, the questions he asks makes him flip out. Cause this is, this is his attorney instructing him where to send the tape. This is his attorney telling him where to send the sex tape. Okay, so, watch.

• 2:34:56Speaker 06

  Your agent sent you Gawker's e- address to send the tape, you asked him, "Nothing yet", on September 27th, at 4:54 PM.

• 2:35:08Speaker 03

  So at that point, he's telling the security, let her go, let her go.

• 2:35:12Speaker 06

  You asked him nothing yet, and then he replied.

• 2:35:16Speaker 05

  And what was that about?

• 2:35:16Speaker 06

  He replied, well, in his reply, it was obviously about...

• 2:35:20Speaker 05

  Because you're making an assumption what you think you know what it was about.

• 2:35:22Speaker 06

  And within...

• 2:35:24Speaker 03

  Danny, you're gonna flip out when you see this. This is the world that I live in. This is the world that I live in.

• 2:35:29Speaker 06

  AJ Lario, Sheriff Gawker, 210 Elizabeth Street, New York, New York. I'm worried to send the tape. So, you're telling me, two weeks before Gawker got the tape, and your agent gives you the address? You didn't send the tape?

• 2:35:42Speaker 05

  I've never sent a tape.

• 2:35:43Speaker 06

  You got the address from your agent to send the tape?

• 2:35:46Speaker 05

  You have no idea what that was about.

• 2:35:48Speaker 06

  Okay, what else were you gonna send to Gawker?

• 2:35:50Speaker 05

  You have no idea.

• 2:35:51Speaker 06

  You're just lying. You act like a tough guy on the radio all the time, saying you're gonna tell the truth.

• 2:35:55Speaker 03

  She's got him here. She's got him.

• 2:35:57Speaker 05

  And you're wrong, but you don't want to admit it. So, I don't know what more you want me to do.

• 2:36:01Speaker 06

  Are you admitting that you got the address for Gawker from your agent?

• 2:36:04Speaker 05

  I don't, no, I did not.

• 2:36:06Speaker 06

  You admitted the other email.

• 2:36:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, because the other email was true.

• 2:36:09Speaker 06

  This is from my calendar.

• 2:36:10Speaker 05

  You're assuming you know what that's about.

• 2:36:11Speaker 06

  Okay, so your agent gave you Gawker's address two weeks prior.

• 2:36:16Speaker 05

  How pathetic is your life that you're here fighting this fight?

• 2:36:19Speaker 06

  How pathetic is your life that you are so...

• 2:36:21Speaker 03

  Now, watch this.

• 2:36:22Speaker 05

  My life is how pathetic? Turn around, look at these people. Turn around, turn your camera around.

• 2:36:25Speaker 03

  He grabs her phone. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. Stop it.

• 2:36:29Speaker 05

  You don't have permission.

• 2:36:31Speaker 03

  So, he grabs her phone, which is grand theft. He grabs her, he makes first contact. He grabs her phone, and now he's videotaping the entire, you know, the entire place. But he took, he took her phone from her.

• 2:36:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:36:48Speaker 03

  Okay? Now, continue on. It's almost over.

• 2:36:51Speaker 05

  Don't film me anymore. All right?

• 2:36:53Speaker 03

  And she says...

• 2:36:54Speaker 05

  My life is how pathetic? Look, turn around, look at these people. Turn around, turn your camera around. Oh, he just takes her phone.

• 2:36:58Speaker 03

  Yep. Strong arm, strong law robbery by sudden snatching. You don't have permission to take my phone.

• 2:37:16Speaker 03

  Now, watch this.

• 2:37:19Speaker 03

  So, she tries to get her, she tries to get her phone back.

• 2:37:22Danny Jones?

  Uh huh.

• 2:37:25Danny Jones?

  I'm gonna what?

• 2:37:26Speaker 03

  I'm gonna kick the shit out of you. Now, watch this.

• 2:37:35Speaker 03

  Now, watch this. He takes and erases, he erases her phone. He's going through her phone right now. She reaches over his shoulder to grab, grab her phone. Now, watch this.

• 2:37:48Speaker 03

  Look at this. Watch his hand right on her face.

• 2:37:51Danny Jones?

  Yeah, just mush her right out of there.

• 2:37:53Speaker 04

  Just mushed her.

• 2:37:55Danny Jones?

  That's fucked.

• 2:37:58Danny Jones?

  Ugh. That sucks.

• 2:38:00Speaker 03

  Then, then... Sends her outside, erases two of the videos off of her phone, and sends her phone back out there. The cops come, mirandize him, get reading his rights. He makes one phone call, and the cops leave, and the case gets dropped. And the cops tell her, "You're lucky he doesn't press charges, because you were the aggressor when you went to get your phone." And the Florida state statute states, "If something, if I take your phone from you..."

• 2:38:31Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:38:31Speaker 03

  Let's say this is your phone. I take this from you. "You have the right to exert a certain amount of energy to get this back." Now, you don't have the right to punch me in the mouth, but you can be like, "Man, give me my phone back." You know, and that's, that's the world that I live in. He didn't get prosecuted because, this is in Sarasota.

• 2:38:48Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:38:49Speaker 03

  They found out who her fiance was. That's the bubba factor right there.

• 2:38:53Danny Jones?

  That's how much they hate you.

• 2:38:54Speaker 03

  And that motherfucker is the morning drive guy who shot the tape. And has been doing mornings for 12 years, right there. Right the fuck there.

• 2:39:04Danny Jones?

  Fuck.

• 2:39:07Danny Jones?

  Bananas, man. What a fucking crazy world.

• 2:39:11Speaker 03

  What a bunch of fucking bullshit.

• 2:39:15Speaker 03

  And what did I do to be the bad guy?

• 2:39:20Speaker 03

  Like you said earlier, I held people accountable. I would bust politicians' balls.

• 2:39:24Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:39:25Speaker 03

  I would stick up for the guy that was out there fucking painting like you.

• 2:39:28Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:39:28Speaker 03

  I was the man's man, the people's hammer, and you do that long enough, then you become

• 2:39:34Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:39:35Speaker 03

  A villain. Eventually, I got cancelled. I got cancelled. I got cancelled before cancel was a thing.

• 2:39:40Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:39:43Danny Jones?

  Fucking wild, man. And the story, the documentary lays it all out perfectly.

• 2:39:47Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:39:48Danny Jones?

  With all the evidence.

• 2:39:48Speaker 03

  So you watched it, other than being a little bit long, did you like it?

• 2:39:52Danny Jones?

  Oh, yeah. I thought it was amazing.

• 2:39:53Speaker 03

  I mean, and to think that they they used it to try to take a hack at Trump.

• 2:39:59Danny Jones?

  Yeah, that's crazy, too. I love how you had Roger Stone come in there.

• 2:40:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. Roger Stone did a great job. Um, I tried to get Tucker, but I couldn't coordinate with Tucker because I've had Tucker on my show for years.

• 2:40:10Danny Jones?

  He used to be on there all the time, man.

• 2:40:12Speaker 03

  And you know the thing about Tucker?

• 2:40:13Danny Jones?

  I used to love Tucker on there.

• 2:40:14Speaker 03

  I had Tucker on Tues- Tucker Tuesdays.

• 2:40:17Danny Jones?

  Tucker Tuesdays.

• 2:40:18Speaker 03

  And this was, this was for six years.

• 2:40:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:40:21Speaker 03

  And this really I'm kinda, I'm kinda, I've not really ever talked about this, but I'm really upset in the fact that when Tucker got fired from MSNBC and he was just a small contributor on Fox and Friends in the morning, twice or three times a week. I used to have Tucker on when he had no platform at all, none, like, none. No more MSNBC, nothing. And we had Tucker Tuesdays, and, you know, it was great. And now Tucker won't have me on.

• 2:40:53Speaker 03

  He just

• 2:40:53Danny Jones?

  Have you talked to him?

• 2:40:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I've tried, and he's just like, ah, you know.

• 2:40:58Speaker 03

  Hmm. Not, you know, no, basically, no. That's so weird. Yeah, and like, I was, I was just like, what the fuck did I do, what the fuck did I do or have I done? To make? Even Tucker not like me? Yeah, I don't know. And I know that there was a place called Media Matters, and when he was with Fox, they went and subscribed to my bubbaarmyhq.com, which has all my archives of everything I've ever done. And this, and this company called Media Matters went and, there's a pretty extensive search engine on bubbaarmyhq, where you could type in literally, you know, Matt Cox. Yeah. And it would show you the show that Matt was on. Mm hmm.

• 2:41:38Speaker 03

  Well, Media Matters paid for a membership, it's like $9.99 a month, and they went and downloaded all 168 shows or that Tucker was on. Mm hmm. And then they cherry picked it and, and kind of made a worst of Tucker tape. Mm hmm. That's when he was really, really big on Fox, when he was huge on Fox. And they caused quite a bit, quite a bit of a shitstorm for Tucker with regards to Fox. They got a lot of advertisers to pull based on what he said on my radio show a decade earlier. Jesus. And that caused, I think, some dissension between them, but I'm like, Tucker, that's not my fu- that was, you were on my show, being yourself, talking about like how Iranian women smelled like camels and,

• 2:42:21Speaker 03

  you know, like ju- just outrageous shit, because at that point, he wasn't beholding to anybody, you know? He didn't have to really watch what he, so he would say like, you know, I hate, I live in Maine and I hate Canadians, and if all Canadians, and that would be cool, just, you know, crazy shit. Oh, my God. And they used that against him, and they got like Mercedes and some big companies to pull their advertising based on his appearance on my show, and I think that Tucker still holds that against me, and I didn't have anything to do with that. Yeah. I mean, I mean. So.

• 2:42:49Danny Jones?

  I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't understand some of the drama between some of these OG talk show guys. I mean, some of them fucking figured out, figured out the new media YouTube landscape and just fucking hit it. Hit a home run with it like Tucker. Like as soon as he left Fox, he went on YouTube and just blew up.

• 2:43:04Speaker 03

  He's just killing it.

• 2:43:06Danny Jones?

  Crushing it, man.

• 2:43:07Speaker 03

  But why, why would you forget about your buddy?

• 2:43:09Danny Jones?

  I don't know.

• 2:43:09Speaker 03

  Why would you forget about your buddy that when you weren't shit? When you weren't, when you weren't even on NBC, NBC, you still had Tucker, your buddy still had Tucker Tuesdays. Like, I don't understand.

• 2:43:20Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I don't understand it either, man.

• 2:43:22Speaker 03

  I mean, you know, you're my friend. Why do people hate me, Danny?

• 2:43:25Danny Jones?

  I don't know why people hate you, bubba. I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I wish I knew the answer. I don't think Rogan hates you. I think Rogan loves you.

• 2:43:32Speaker 03

  I think Joe, I think Joe, I think Joe likes me too.

• 2:43:35Danny Jones?

  He loves, he, he loves everybody, man. He, he, uh, he, he's the type of dude who's not, he's not like that. He's a type of guy who likes to share. Everything. He likes to help boost people up.

• 2:43:45Speaker 03

  Well, and I've never, oh my God, I've, I've, I've never said an ill word towards him. In fact, I've borderline worshipped him just based on how, how, how well he's done and how he's become the new it factor. And he's been the it factor for a long time.

• 2:43:59Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:00Speaker 03

  I mean, and, and you know what? It's only gonna go away when he decides to wrap it up.

• 2:44:04Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:44:04Speaker 03

  It is.

• 2:44:05Danny Jones?

  And how long, if you're him, how long do you even want to do it for, you know?

• 2:44:07Speaker 03

  I think for Joe, for, I think Joe's gonna want to do it for a long time because Joe's so good at it.

• 2:44:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:12Speaker 03

  And he's such a conversationalist and he's got such a great compound that he can do it on his terms.

• 2:44:18Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:18Speaker 03

  And you can hand select, you know, you're not ever hurting for a guest because you are the absolute pinnacle of getting on the Joe Rogan show is the absolute pinnacle of media.

• 2:44:31Danny Jones?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:44:32Speaker 03

  So I think Joe does it. Maybe Joe will scale back a little bit, you know, maybe, maybe as he gets older, he's like, hey, all I want to do, you know, twice a week or

• 2:44:40Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:44:40Speaker 03

  once a week or, you know, I think he'll scale back before he quits. I think he loves it too much.

• 2:44:44Danny Jones?

  Yeah, I feel like he treats the podcast as like a warm up for his comedy.

• 2:44:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I think they, I think they intertwine.

• 2:44:51Danny Jones?

  They definitely do.

• 2:44:51Speaker 03

  They definitely intertwine and he can try new stuff out.

• 2:44:54Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:44:54Speaker 03

  You know, on the road and he's right there in Austin. I think he's got his own joint now that he, yeah, he's got his own joint. So he's got, he's got kind of his, he's kind of made this Joe Rogan bubble.

• 2:45:04Danny Jones?

  Universe.

• 2:45:05Speaker 03

  Universe, this, this Joe Rogan universe bubble that, you know, he's got everything. He's got, he's got a perfect setup.

• 2:45:12Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:45:12Speaker 03

  Nobody will ever, nobody ever will get.

• 2:45:17Speaker 03

  To that status, I don't think.

• 2:45:19Danny Jones?

  No.

• 2:45:19Speaker 03

  Until he leaves, and at that point, you're just a Joe Rogan ripoff.

• 2:45:23Danny Jones?

  Well, I think whoever, uh, I don't think.

• 2:45:28Danny Jones?

  Even if somebody is able to come up with the same amount of talent that he has, I don't think still anyone will ever be able to achieve what he did in media, just because of the timing.

• 2:45:38Speaker 03

  No, he.

• 2:45:38Danny Jones?

  He had the perfect timing.

• 2:45:39Speaker 03

  He had the perfect timing and he's got the perfect setup. And let's not, let's not take the talent away from the fact that anybody can get the setup and, but you gotta be talented and you gotta be quick on your feet and you gotta have the infrastructure and you gotta, I mean, he didn't, just, just didn't all come to him. I mean, you know, don't forget, it wasn't too far removed from being on Fear Factor, which I'm sure he cringes at times. Like, oh my God, I'm fucking Fear Factor. Oh shit. God, I look like a, well, you know, I'm sure Joe sometimes cringes.

• 2:46:07Danny Jones?

  Getting people to drink bull semen.

• 2:46:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. You know, you know, I mean, I'm sure he cringes at some of that early shit, but I mean, nobody, nobody, and he, and, and, and I'm not, I'm so thankful for the, the opportunity Howard gave me, but he has completely surpassed, surpassed Howard.

• 2:46:26Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:46:27Speaker 03

  And I don't.

• 2:46:27Danny Jones?

  And Howard, like, doesn't like pod, he like talks shit about Joe and podcasting all the time.

• 2:46:31Speaker 03

  And I don't understand why Howard wouldn't give Joe his flowers because Joe has earned them.

• 2:46:38Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:46:39Speaker 03

  The reason why is because Joe surpassed him.

• 2:46:41Danny Jones?

  Right.

• 2:46:41Speaker 03

  I mean, that's, that's just the way it is. That's the way it is.

• 2:46:44Danny Jones?

  Joe and, and Howard's gone like super like lefty woke.

• 2:46:47Speaker 03

  Oh, Joe, I mean, Howard, yeah. He's, he's, and Joe's not. Joe's, Joe's still that American dude that's doing kettlebells, that's fucking shooting his bow and arrow, that's looking for moose meat. And all, and I mean, Joe's still a dude that would get, if he knew how to run an excavator, he would.

• 2:47:03Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:03Speaker 03

  Howard is so far removed from the average man and, and you know, the, the average dock worker, long, longshoreman back in the day, used to like Howard.

• 2:47:13Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:47:13Speaker 03

  Now they like Joe.

• 2:47:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:15Speaker 03

  Joe is the new it factor and I don't see it going away until he quits.

• 2:47:20Danny Jones?

  I agree.

• 2:47:21Speaker 03

  And I don't ever see it being emulated to the, to the way Joe's doing it.

• 2:47:26Danny Jones?

  Right. Well, Bubba, this has been fucking amazing. Thank you for coming in, dude, and thank you for letting me watch your documentary early with the early release.

• 2:47:34Speaker 03

  Thank you for pushing it and um, don't forget it comes out today um, on-

• 2:47:39Danny Jones?

  Okay, Video Killed the Radio Star on Apple. Where else is it available?

• 2:47:43Speaker 03

  Uh, Apple, Google Play, uh, and Amazon.

• 2:47:49Danny Jones?

  Hell, yeah.

• 2:47:49Speaker 03

  Man, my wife was hot, wasn't she?

• 2:47:51Danny Jones?

  Mm-hmm. Smoking. Send me the links. I will put the links down below so people could find uh, find-

• 2:47:57Speaker 03

  I appreciate that.

• 2:47:58Danny Jones?

  The documentary and to download it. And uh, anything else would you tell people about your show, where to listen to, where to tune in every day?

• 2:48:04Speaker 03

  We're on YouTube like you guys are. Um, you know, we um, we just hit a hundred and I think thirty-five thousand subscribers, which is a lot for us. Um, you, you probably remember those days.

• 2:48:16Speaker 03

  Dude, can you remember when you-

• 2:48:18Danny Jones?

  It's a slow burn, bro.

• 2:48:19Speaker 03

  Can you remember when you were at one thirty-five and you thought you were all that bitch?

• 2:48:22Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, I remember.

• 2:48:24Speaker 03

  That's where I'm at and I'm not all that.

• 2:48:26Danny Jones?

  It starts snowballing. It starts picking up speed.

• 2:48:28Speaker 03

  Does it really?

• 2:48:29Danny Jones?

  Before you know it, you're at a million.

• 2:48:31Speaker 03

  No, yeah, please. I couldn't even-

• 2:48:33Danny Jones?

  Look at that.

• 2:48:34Speaker 03

  I mean, we got, yeah, we, we, I got some good, I got some good stuff and uh, I mean, but I mean, how fast did it take you to get to a million?

• 2:48:42Danny Jones?

  Uh, a long time. A long time. I think I started, I really started doing-

• 2:48:46Speaker 03

  Like, when does gasoline start getting poured on it? Like, you know, like, when, like, if I'm at a hundred and thirty-five now and, you know, the average-

• 2:48:53Danny Jones?

  Well, for me, the problem, the problem with it for me is I started doing different. I was doing documentary stuff first and then I started doing the podcast. I didn't start doing the podcast until like twenty nineteen, but we were only doing like one, one or two podcasts a month.

• 2:49:07Speaker 03

  Oh, that's it.

• 2:49:08Danny Jones?

  And that's it.

• 2:49:08Speaker 03

  And you were with that one dude for a while.

• 2:49:10Danny Jones?

  Once we started doing one a week, then it started to pick up more and now that we're doing two a week, it's fucking going crazy. So I think it's a lot about like the more you do, the faster it grows.

• 2:49:20Speaker 03

  Well, see, every one of our daily shows up there and you know, our daily shows are now getting, you know, like-

• 2:49:26Danny Jones?

  Look, you got the good thumbnails. You guys got-

• 2:49:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, I got a guy, my new, my new guy really, and then he'll take each show and make reels-

• 2:49:34Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, clips out of it, yeah.

• 2:49:35Speaker 03

  Little, little, little minute fifty-seven second reels. Uh, listen, I, I did hit it out, I- Don't laugh at me cuz I'm way lower, you know, I'm way low on the fucking digital pecking scale than you are. I couldn't be a pimple on your ass. And I'm very, you know, as much as you used to listen to me back in the day, I'm honored and to call you a friend and I'm very, I was just, I was just telling, uh, Concrete Clem here when you were pissing, I go, I'm fucking proud of that kid. Didn't I? I mean, I said, I said, I am proud of that kid. He is fucking killing it. But, um, we, um, on Facebook, we, because of, I'm a little bit older, we also aggregate some of our stuff on Facebook too. So, you know, every clip that we make, we figure we might as well put across all, you know, all, all, you know,

• 2:50:19Speaker 03

  we're on Rumble, you know, and so if we make a clip, a 57 second clip, it'll go on Insta, it'll go on TikTok, it'll go on Facebook, it'll go on YouTube, it'll go everywhere. And you guys clip them out and put them out like instantly, the same day, the same day you recorded. Oh, yeah. Like, by the time the show's over, the first hour clips are done. That's crazy. So we're getting them out, but we hit, we hit it out and don't laugh at me, okay? But we hit a, on Facebook, we hit a reel that did 91 million views. Damn, holy shit. And I mean, now, is that, I mean, and it made like that, that clip made like 12 grand. Hell, yeah. What? How long was it? 57 seconds. Oh, my God.

• 2:51:01Speaker 03

  And it was about me talking, it was just like, it wasn't, and I don't know if it was just hashtag right, if, but it obviously got put up on people's recommendation pages. But we did 91.4 million views. Which clip was that? And it was just a clip about, it was about the cost of, of Super Bowl commercial ads. And it was just something real. And I think we hit a Super Bowl gimmick or something like that. And, you know, I, I think that's pretty good. That's really good. I mean, I think that's. I don't think I've ever gotten that many views on a clip. So, and we've gotten, you know, we've gotten several clips that, you know, have done, you know, oh, hell, I think that Brooke Hogan clip right there has done on Facebook

• 2:51:46Speaker 03

  465,000, uh, views.

• 2:51:50Danny Jones?

  Wow.

• 2:51:51Speaker 03

  So, I mean, you know.

• 2:51:51Danny Jones?

  And you're on TikTok and all that stuff.

• 2:51:53Speaker 03

  Everything's at the Bubba Army. Everything is at the Bubba Army, but TikTok doesn't pay shit. Do you do TikTok?

• 2:52:00Danny Jones?

  Yeah, we do TikTok, but I don't pay attention to it.

• 2:52:02Speaker 03

  But do you make that money? I mean, you probably don't make, no. And Rumble doesn't really pay that well. You know, you got YouTube. And oddly enough, Danny, you're probably a little too young for it, but Facebook pays pretty good.

• 2:52:15Danny Jones?

  Does it really?

• 2:52:17Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 2:52:17Danny Jones?

  We just actually started working with this company that's gonna start posting our clips on Facebook because we never touch Facebook.

• 2:52:23Speaker 03

  You, you, listen, you could easily be pulling down an extra. This is probably short money for you, but you could probably with, with, you could probably pull down an extra five to seven thousand a month on, on, on Facebook. If you start clipping.

• 2:52:37Danny Jones?

  Making note of it, I gotta hit up.

• 2:52:38Speaker 03

  You really gotta do that, Danny.

• 2:52:39Danny Jones?

  I gotta email that guy.

• 2:52:40Speaker 03

  That's, that's your upper demos. I mean, you know, and, and these upper, these forty-five plus, people are looking for good content because there's so much shitty stuff out there. So, you know, when you, everything that you do, Danny, you should clip up and, and distribute across the platforms that are gonna pay you the most.

• 2:52:57Danny Jones?

  Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do that.

• 2:52:58Speaker 03

  I mean, I know you've put all, I know you've put all your eggs in the YouTube basket, but there's, there's a couple other baskets out there that, that could get you some flowers.

• 2:53:06Danny Jones?

  We've been, uh, blowing up on Spotify lately. Like, our Spotify numbers have been like equal or more than our YouTube numbers.

• 2:53:14Speaker 03

  That goes, that go through Songcast?

• 2:53:16Danny Jones?

  Well, no, my, our Spotify thing goes through Megaphone, this company called Megaphone. And, um, it's the same company, so we, we have a, we had this company that sells our advertising, like our, our read ads that we do.

• 2:53:27Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:53:27Danny Jones?

  And they also, uh, they also collect all my Spotify money. And then they cut me a check, so I don't, I'm not sure exactly what the Spotify specific money is.

• 2:53:35Speaker 03

  But I mean, you could get a bag from Facebook, you could get a decent little.

• 2:53:39Danny Jones?

  Matt Cox is all over the Facebook stuff.

• 2:53:40Speaker 03

  Oh, and I, I bet you, I'd be willing to say that Matt Cox's Facebook money is.

• 2:53:46Danny Jones?

  Fucking good. I call up Matt Cox once a week, I'm like, "Bro, tell me what, what you're doing, I need to learn." He teaches me stuff all the time about this stuff.

• 2:53:52Speaker 03

  The guys, like I said earlier, I know he's got heat with me.

• 2:53:55Danny Jones?

  He doesn't have heat with you, he loves you.

• 2:53:56Speaker 03

  I love him.

• 2:53:57Danny Jones?

  He thinks you don't like him.

• 2:53:58Speaker 03

  Will you make sure you rectify that?

• 2:54:00Danny Jones?

  I'll, I'll.

• 2:54:00Speaker 03

  Play him that clip, because I mean, I.

• 2:54:02Danny Jones?

  I'll build the bridge back.

• 2:54:04Speaker 03

  Matt Cox, I love you, brother, let's, let's do some shit together.

• 2:54:06Danny Jones?

  All right, brother, thanks for coming, brother.

• 2:54:07Speaker 03

  Thank you, Danny.

• 2:54:08Danny Jones?

  We'll link everything below, Video Kill the Radio Star, out now, go get it.

• 2:54:11Speaker 03

  Thank you, Danny.

• 2:54:12Danny Jones?

  Goodnight, everybody.

• 2:54:13Speaker 03

  Thank you, Smick Clem.

• 2:54:14Danny Jones?

  Yeah, man.

• 2:54:15Speaker 03

  Concrete Clem.

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