Bonus Episode: New Year’s Stories of Rock ‘n’ Roll Redemption

From Ozzy to Tina to the Chili Peppers, hope springs anew each New Year’s and has led to some of the most dramatic stories of redemption from music history. We dig into these stories in this bonus episode as we gear up for a new year ourselves and of course, dive into your voicemails, texts, DMs and more. Happy New Year from Disgraceland! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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  She'd throw things, wander, and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard, but then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help. Seeing symptoms like these in a loved one? It could be time to ask their doctor about Rexulti, Rexiprazole 2mg, the first FDA-approved treatment for this condition. Rexulti is proven to reduce agitation symptoms. Rexulti should not be used as an as-needed treatment. Elderly people with dementia-related psychosis have increased risk of death or stroke. Report fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, which can be life-threatening, or uncontrolled muscle movements, which may be permanent. High blood sugar can lead to coma or death. Weight gain, increased cholesterol, unusual urges, dizziness on standing, falls, seizures,

• 1:30Speaker 02

  trouble swallowing, or sleepiness may occur. Learn more about these and other side effects at rexulti.com. Tap ad for PI. I'm glad I asked for help. Ask your loved one's doctor about Rexulti.

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• 2:16Jake Brennan?

  Hey Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand, the after-party.

• 2:42Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the DisgraceLand bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of DisgraceLand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story of this bonus episode, we are discussing incredible stories of rock and roll redemption, everybody from Tina Turner to Ozzy Osbourne, Frank Sinatra, and you know, everyone in between. In the exclusive portion of this after-party, we dive into some of the weirdest number one songs in New Year's Day music history, getting into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried.

• 3:27Jake Brennan?

  DisgraceLand is where I tell the stories I didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, let's get into it.

• 3:45Jake Brennan?

  All right, it's officially the new year, so Happy New Year. I hope 2026 is everything that you want it to be. I love this time of year. For me, at least, there's, there's always so much hope. And you can feel it. You can feel it in the air. You can feel it with your family. Hopefully, you can feel it with the people you work with, ideally. And you know, for me, hope is it's like a drug. And what else are we doing here if we're not hoping for for something, something more, something better, hoping to become better versions of ourselves. And you know, maybe I think that way because I'm creative and I'm

• 4:28Jake Brennan?

  constantly trying to create something different and new and say things in new and in different ways, say things that with more clarity, say things above familiar subjects with unique perspective that I haven't necessarily shared before. So I'm always thinking about this type of stuff and hope is a big component to that thinking. And for artists, I feel like, you know, if you hope is more than a drug, it's, it's like oxygen. The hope that the new year brings can be a catalyst for creative change, like I mentioned. And as we look at music

• 5:06Jake Brennan?

  history, that change for a lot of rock stars meant redemption. And that redemption lends itself to incredible storytelling. Stories of redemption that are so dramatic, that if you handed them in as Hollywood scripts, Hollywood would be like, no, this is, this is too fantastical. This goes out of the bounds of reality. Let's look at Ozzy Osbourne. April 1979, Ozzy Osbourne was kicked out of the band that he co-founded, Black Sabbath. And he spent the next few months holed up in a hotel room in Hollywood, spending, I think he had like almost a hundred thousand dollars as part of a buyout that he got from, from

• 5:51Jake Brennan?

  the band and he used it all on drugs. And he just did a bunch of cocaine while he was in that hotel room licking his wounds. But by the end of the year, by the end of 1979, for Ozzy Osbourne, hope had overcome despair. Ozzy had a new band and a new album in the works, Blizzard of Oz. Ozzy hoped that Blizzard of Oz would launch his solo career in that next year in 1980. And that's exactly what happened. When 1980 rolled around, Blizzard of Oz went on to sell, well, like cocaine, which is to say it sold very well. Blizzard of Oz went platinum without the help of a radio single, but on the back of Ozzy Osbourne's

• 6:34Jake Brennan?

  hope. And all of a sudden, Ozzy Osbourne wakes up in a new decade. And he's more popular than the band that he was just kicked out of.

• 6:43Jake Brennan?

  Incredible story of just, you know, lows and highs and highs and lows. And ultimately redemption in the end, then it doesn't end here. Obviously Ozzy's story goes on and on and on. And there's more highs and lows, including the, the, the point where he almost murders his wife. And he manages to somehow come back from that. Fantastic storytelling. Like I said, redemption at the end of 1987, here's another one. Red Hot Chili Peppers, Anthony Kiedis, their front man decided that by 87, it was time that he and his band's guitarist, Hello Slovec, face their addiction to heroin. Because their lives worked to this point, the band that they were in, the band that they loved, the Chili Peppers, the existence of that band was on the line.

• 7:27Jake Brennan?

  And their latest album in 1987, Uplift Mofo Party Plan, it had entered the Billboard 200. So now these guys, they've got some, they've got stakes to their story. They've got a real chance to break through as a band. So Anthony and Hello, at the end of 1987, they decide to give up heroin together before touring Europe in support of their new record, Uplift Mofo Party Plan. They were going to go on tour in January of 1988. So, you know, right in the new year, right? Giving up heroin for the new year. That's the plan. Okay. Now, giving up heroin worked for Anthony Kiedis, but it did not work for Hello.

• 8:10Jake Brennan?

  He relapsed on the road in Europe, was kicked out of the band briefly while they're on tour, and then asked to rejoin to finish the tour. And that's what happened. Chili Peppers returned to the States and they were a mess. And they all go their separate ways. And then they start to resurface, but they can't find Hello. Turns out his body was found in his Hollywood apartment on June 25th, 1988. Now, here we are at the bottom, the lowest of the low. The thing that Anthony Kiedis and the rest of his band feared the most had happened. One of the Red Hot Chili Peppers had died of a heroin overdose.

• 8:55Jake Brennan?

  Now, as 1988 progressed, the loss of Hello, Slovak, their guitar player, proved almost to be too much for their band. Drummer Jack Irons quit, saying that he didn't want to be part of something that could kill him or his friends. A new drummer and a new guitarist briefly joined the band, but by the end of 1988, they were both replaced by Chad Smith and John Frusciante. Now, as 1988 became 1989, the new Red Hot Chili Peppers were readying themselves to start January pre-production for what would become their classic album, Mother's Milk.

• 9:37Jake Brennan?

  And they're starting this process with 50% new band, okay? Not an easy thing to do, not at all. I don't care if your bass player is named Flea. It's really hard to replace, never mind one member, two members, especially a drummer and a lead guitar player. I mean, come on, it's not like they're just slotting in a, well, not like you could replace, I was gonna say slot in a bass player, but I guess Flea is the one guy you absolutely could not replace in the Chili Peppers. That's all beside the point. They're going in, in January of 1989, they're going into pre-production for Mother's Milk. Whatever their hopes were, you have to think, first and foremost, it was the hope that they didn't suck, okay?

• 10:19Jake Brennan?

  You have to think that anything beyond that was a win. But now we have hindsight and we have biographies, autobiographies, excuse me, and we know that Anthony Kiedis and the rest of the Red Hot Chili Peppers were hoping for more than to just not suck, okay? Uplift, Mofo, Party Plan was a Billboard charting album. They wanted their next record, Mother's Milk, to be a mainstream breakthrough, which is not easy for any band, never mind a band that's replacing 50% of its members. And that's what they were hoping for. And that's exactly what happened. Mother's Milk went gold and set the stage for what would become the band's,

• 11:03Jake Brennan?

  not just a hit record, but a culture-defining moment when they released the follow-up to Mother's Milk a few years later with Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magic, an album that it was everywhere when it was released, all over MTV, all over the radio. It was the song for my senior hop. It was just an explosive record. People who had no idea about alternative music knew, or had heard at least of, the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They became a household name. And just a few years prior to that, on the verge of 1989,

• 11:42Jake Brennan?

  they were basically dead in the water. Hope went to work, just like it did in July 1976, when Anna Mae Bullock left her abusive husband after a final violent altercation. Anna Mae had only 36 cents to her name when she left her husband. She didn't seek money in the divorce from her rock star husband, just the right to continue to use her stage name, Tina Turner. And she won that right. And for the next six New Year's Eves, Tina Turner plied her craft on crummy stages in third and fourth-rate nightclubs, lounges, and cabarets, fighting her way back to what she hoped would be a respectable

• 12:26Jake Brennan?

  career in entertainment. And on December 31st, 1983, Tina Turner watched herself in a pre-taped performance on Barcelona television, performing with a new look, heavily teased hair, bangs, big hoop earrings, trademark legs for days. And she thought about the future. She thought about the hope that she had for a new album that she'd begun production on for Capitol Records, a new record that she hoped would re-establish her as an entertaining force in her own right, without her abusive husband, Ike Turner, backing her. Tina Turner hoped that this record would make her own name, Tina, ring out.

• 13:10Jake Brennan?

  Private Dancer was released in the spring of 1984. The album was instantly adored by critics. Its singles played endlessly by FM radio, its videos rotated heavily by MTV, and it sold millions and millions of copies. Tina Turner, like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, like Ozzy Osbourne, and like so many other artists we've covered in Disgraceland, Johnny Cash, Iggy Pop, AC/DC, Frank Sinatra. They were down and nearly out. Their careers seemingly over, but were not for this crucial ingredient

• 13:49Jake Brennan?

  that seems to be in abundance this time of year: hope. Hope makes for great storytelling. Hope makes for a lot of great things. It's hard, it's hard to list them all without sounding like a total fucking cheeseball, but it's part of what gets us up in the morning and gets us going. And it comes into focus, for me at least, and you know, for a lot of the artists we cover around this time of year. I hope it does for you as well. I hope you guys are having a great holiday season. I hope you're all gearing up to achieve whatever it is you want to achieve this year, whether it's global superstardom like Tina Turner, or perhaps something more modest like

• 14:35Jake Brennan?

  a few more quiet nights at home with your family, perhaps some peace of mind, whatever it is, I hope you get it. And I hope to keep talking to you here in Disgraceland every week. We've got a lot of great stories planned for you guys in 2026. In addition to these weekly after-party episodes, one thing that we're going to start doing, beginning next week here in Disgraceland, is laying out our new full episodes for you guys with a little bit more information and a little bit more intentionality. Now, one of the things that's changed in Disgraceland over the last few years is that Disgraceland, the show, used to be much more

• 15:14Jake Brennan?

  of a seasonal show, where we release 12 weekly episodes seasonally and then take a bunch of weeks off before releasing a new season. Now,

• 15:25Jake Brennan?

  The cool thing about this was, you know, in addition to having, you know, a whole lot less work to do, but that's, you know, I'm only kidding about that. The cool thing was, as a result of this schedule, uh, where we were sort of releasing seasons in batches, when these batched releases would happen, it would create these moments of excitement around discovering which artists we'd all be digging into at the same time. And now that we publish episodes every week, we've lost those big reveals. So what I'm going to start doing is, once every three or four months, I'm going to pop into the feed with a reveal episode, so to speak, a behind the scenes episode.

• 16:08Jake Brennan?

  We're going to talk about what artists are coming over the next 12 or so weeks, coming immediately. And we're going to give you guys insight into those stories, the crimes, the myths, the transgressions, all of it. And we're going to, like I said, a bit of behind the scenes peek at how these stories are chosen and how they're being put together in real time, uh, what we're doing for research, what we're planning on doing for music, which parts of the stories we're leaning into, which parts of the stories we're leaving on the table. I'm also doing this in part because what we've got going on in Patreon for 2026, if you're in on the $10 tier, if you're a $10 tier all access member in Patreon,

• 16:51Jake Brennan?

  you're going to have the ability to meet with Zeth and I, and perhaps Matt as well, to help determine and choose which artists that we're going to cover in these new behind the scenes episodes, like the one you're going to get next week. They're going to take on more weight and relevance. You're going to get to hear, if you're a $10 patron, you're going to get to hear, uh, sort of the results of your thinking and your choices coming to life right alongside, uh, our thinking. So that's all, that's all happening. It's all happening in 2026. That behind the scenes episode that the seasonal reveal is coming your way next week. And then right after that, we start the new year with our brand new episode on Johnny Thunders of the New York Dolls and

• 17:32Jake Brennan?

  the mystery surrounding his death. And from there, we're going to get into brand new episodes. I'm not going to burn them all now. You're going to have to wait till next week to hear which ones we're coming at you with, but I'm very, very excited. You know, we did rely heavily on the suggestions that you guys have made over the past few months, just throughout the year, really, here in the after party with your, your voicemails and your texts, emails, of course, DMs. We listen, we tried to incorporate a bunch of your suggestions, a bunch of new female artists as well that I'm really excited about. So that's all coming. It's all coming next week. You're going to hear all about that. In the meantime, we are rewinding this

• 18:16Jake Brennan?

  week for New Year's with Hank Williams, who famously died on New Year's Day, 1953. So obviously there's some relevance there. More on New Year's related music in the exclusive section of this after party where I'm going to be reviewing some of the Stranger number one songs from New Year's Day, going back through music history. Got to be an all access member to cop that, though. Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up and unlock exclusive content, like the content you're going to get later in the after party here, like our mini episodes. And you're also going to get ad free listening and access to our disgraceland community chat on Patreon. Membership start for as little as a dollar per month. That's all at disgracelandpod.com

• 18:58Jake Brennan?

  to sign up. I'll be back right after this with your voicemails, texts, DMs, and more.

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• 19:45Speaker 04

  She'd throw things, wander, and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard, but then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help.

• 20:01Speaker 02

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• 20:36Speaker 04

  I'm glad I asked for help.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  Ask your loved one's doctor about Rexulti.

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• 21:21Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. Happy New Year again. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas. Speaking of Christmas, I got some incredible gifts from my family this year. Small gifts, really, but, but if you look at the books that I received, and this will sort of serve as a recommendation section here, impromptu, you can tell my family really gets me, as they should. I got, I got the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood book by Jay Glennie, which is just fantastic. It's a tome of these incredible images and stories from

• 22:02Jake Brennan?

  the making of Quentin Tarantino's ninth and what looks like to be his final film. I know what I just said here, if you're a fan of Tarantino, you're a fan of that movie, it says a lot, and that should be enough. But I can't put into words how exhilarating this book is. The stories are incredible, and the pictures are equally incredible. Just, just a wonderful, wonderful gift. It was the only thing I asked for. My wife came through. Jay Glennie's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I also received a collection of Joan Didion books. Very cool. Very cool. As I start to consider, you know, how do

• 22:45Jake Brennan?

  I, you know, how do I, what if I want to do some music history essays, you know, what about that? And the Joan Didion stuff is sort of a perfect guide. Bread of Angels by Patti Smith, Dirtbag Massachusetts by Isaac Fitzgerald. My son got me The Fall of Egypt and the Rise of Rome. And he also got me Blood and Thunder, which is a book on the settling of the American West, which has been a recent fascination of mine. My wife got me Evan Dando's Rumors of My Demise. So I guess there's going to be an Evan Dando episode coming to you in 2026. And I got a book on the Eucharist as well, which I'm

• 23:29Jake Brennan?

  pretty excited to read. So some great books there. For records, let's see what I got. This is, I got the stack here.

• 23:39Jake Brennan?

  My Aunt Tracy got me Rufus and Shaka Khan Live, which I didn't know I needed, but I have it and I'm excited. I got my wife, Jamie, World's Bleed American on vinyl. That's here in the stack. I also found this fantastic French pressing of a Florida punk rock compilation from the 60s. So it's like proto punk, pre punk, but it's called Florida Punk. And it is The Mods, Esquires, Shy Guys, Tasmanians, Tallulah Babies, Palace Guards, Mark Markham, and the Plastic Blues Band. This looks incredible. I got this for my wife, but you know, hey, kind of for me as well. Also got my wife, the Phoenix album,

• 24:23Jake Brennan?

  Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix on vinyl. My son got her Fashion Nugget by Cake on vinyl. I received the new Lemonheads record, Love Chant, which I like the singles I've heard out this album. My friends aren't so psyched on this, at least some of my friends that I've spoken to about this, but I think that song, Deep End, is incredible. The one with Jay Mascis and Julian Halffield. Anyways, happy to have that on record. I also received the original Spinal Tap album, R.I.P. Rob Reiner. I got the Ricky Lee Jones record, Chuck E's in Love, pumped about that, great song. And a Susan Tedeschi album, which I

• 25:02Jake Brennan?

  don't know if that's for me or for my son. I think it's for my son. Oh, EP'd by Richard Rosenblatt, who I know, by the way, Rosie. What up, Rosie? Hope you're well. Okay, that was my record haul and book haul. I guess it was a collective family record haul for the year, but my book haul for the year at Christmas, which I'm pretty stoked on. What'd you guys get? Let me know. Be a little impromptu recommendations back and forth between us. Speaking of back and forth between us, I want to get into some voicemails, texts, and emails from you guys. Just sort of clear the deck here. No, no real focus, but just

• 25:45Jake Brennan?

  to talk. Oftentimes, I'm calling through these responses from you guys in relation to the question of the week. We really have a question of the week because we're kind of freewheeling it here through the New Year's. Okay, this one here, everybody has to listen to this, okay? This is from the 978, and 978, I apologize, a ton of texts here, and I haven't responded to any of these texts in text form. I'm guessing I've read some of them, but I don't know how I missed a bunch of these if I didn't. But anyways, 978, Mark writes in, "Hey, check it

• 26:28Jake Brennan?

  out. The beginnings of a playlist containing every song you mentioned specifically from Disgraceland, not the album, that would be crazy, and not references, I'd probably miss a bunch, but actual song titles in every episode up to the Grateful Dead so far. It's fucking awesome." From Mark in 978. Helltown, baby. Where's Helltown in the 978? I feel like I've been there. But you click on the link and it takes you to this Apple Music playlist, and it is, as advertised, it's, I thought this was gonna be the number one

• 27:05Jake Brennan?

  songs mentioned. It is more psychotic than that. This is literally every song mentioned in our episodes. Like when I'm referencing Hey Jude in a Beatles episode, it's got Hey Jude. When I'm mentioning Far Away Eyes by the Rolling Stones in the Keith Richards episode, that's not a number one song, but that's in here. Shape of You by Ed Sheeran, that was a number one song, that's in here. Straight Outta Compton, The Race by TK, Rat Race by Bob Marley and the Wailers. Oh my God, this is amazing. He Stopped Loving Her Today, George Jones, The Old Violin, Johnny Paycheck, Pardon Me, I've Got Someone to Kill,

• 27:47Jake Brennan?

  Johnny Paycheck. Yo, Mark, keep going, dude. This thing needs to be a living, breathing list. Keep going with this. I see that you're up to, looks like you've made it to, well, you said Grateful Dead. I'm not seeing evidence of that. I could be wrong. Definitely into season four here with I Can Tina Turner, which, damn, man. Nice work. Keep going, Mark. I'll, I'm gonna put this in the, in the Patreon. In the Patreon chat for everybody, and I'll also put it out on Instagram when I get a minute. Mark, I love this. If you guys want to search Mark McKellar on Apple Music, you'll be able to find this.

• 28:28Jake Brennan?

  Again, like I said, I'll share the link, and I hope that this list of songs mentioned in Disgrace Land continues to grow because it will be a hell of a playlist. Thank you, Mark. I want to give a special shout out back to the 615 who last week texted in and brought up Beautiful Girls as a fantastic Christmas movie. And I can't believe I spaced on talking about this over the last few weeks. I went back and I watched it over the weekend. And Beautiful Girls, not only is it a great Christmas movie, it has a fantastic soundtrack. Afghan wigs are actually in the movie.

• 29:06Jake Brennan?

  It's just filled with great classic rock. And really, you know, this movie reminds me so much of my hometown, of my upbringing, of my friends from home. I just feel like in a weird way, the movie's about us. It's set in a fictional town in Massachusetts. It looks exactly like the town I grew up in. So again, 615, thank you so much for that. And I got Zeth watching it and talking about it as well. Cynthia over on Instagram writes in, "Hey Jake, happy 2026, 27, 29. Do as the Egyptians do and put your right feet forward on the 31st. Look up, take a deep breath and connect yourself with the divine energy of the cosmos. May the force be with you moving forward. Always all the best."

• 29:49Jake Brennan?

  Cynthia, thank you. "Happy New Year to you as well." Jeanette Ward writes in, "Thank you all for being my number one podcast of 2025. Spotify told me so. Looking forward to 2026." Jeanette from Perth, Australia. Jeanette, you got it. Thank you. Don McPherson writes in, "Hey, Iron Butterfly bassist. Have you ever covered the subject of the bassist from Iron Butterfly who went missing and was found years later? Love your show." No, we have not, but we've had many people mention it, and it sounds like something, Don, that we need to get into. So perhaps this is the year. Hope, hope, Don, let's hope. Over on Patreon, Eric writes in, "Hey, can't figure out how to post a pic on here, but I finally came

• 30:32Jake Brennan?

  across the interview with Angus Young that I'd read years ago." Now I'm reading this to you because Eric is commenting on the ACDC mini-episode that we released a couple of weeks back, but a month back, month or so, a couple of months, actually. One of our first mini-episodes about who wrote the lyrics to Back in Black, right? Seems like a cut and dry answer, question, cut and dry answer. This is, this is the quote that I'm pretty sure I referenced, I might have referenced in my, in our episode, but you know, Eric dug this up. This is the quote from Angus Young. "Have you ever thought about quitting?" was the question to Angus, and Angus responds, "The only time I did was when Bon Scott died. We were in doubt about what to do,

• 31:15Jake Brennan?

  but we had songs that he had written and we wanted to finish the songs. We thought it would be a tribute to Bon and that album became Back in Black." Come on, man. I think the evidence is pretty clear. Eric, thank you for writing, writing in. I missed that a couple of days ago when you posted it, and I just wanted to get it in here on record. Guys, you can hit us up so many different places, 617-906-6638, voicemail and text at disgracelandpod on the socials. Get in the Patreon chat, go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become a member. You can do so for as little as a dollar. Get in there, in on the conversation with us, all right?

• 32:00Jake Brennan?

  I'm gonna take a quick break and I will be back right after this.

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• 32:45Speaker 04

  She'd throw things, wander, and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard. But then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help.

• 33:00Speaker 02

  Seeing symptoms like these in a loved one? It could be time to ask their doctor about Rexulti, Rexiprazole 2mg. The first FDA-approved treatment for this condition. Rexulti is proven to reduce agitation symptoms. Rexulti should not be used as an as-needed treatment. Elderly people with dementia-related psychosis have increased risk of death or stroke. Report fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, which can be life-threatening, or uncontrolled muscle movements, which may be permanent. High blood sugar can lead to coma or death. Weight gain, increased cholesterol, unusual urges, dizziness on standing, falls, seizures, trouble swallowing, or sleepiness may occur. Learn more about these and other side effects at rexulti.com. Tap ad for PI.

• 33:35Speaker 04

  I'm glad I asked for help.

• 33:37Speaker 02

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• 34:20Jake Brennan?

  All right, Happy New Year. Once again, we are back here in the after-party. Listen, if you want more New Year's content, Zeth and I did this recap of our favorite New Year's movies, which is a fantastic category when you think about it. There's some really stellar movies that are centered in and around New Year's Eve, New Year's Day. And I'm not talking about the Julia Roberts movie. Anyway, Zeth and I get into all that in a special episode of Hollywood Land. It's a great conversation, and here's a peek.

• 34:55Speaker 05

  What's your history with this quote unquote holiday? Are you a fan of New Year's Eve? Did you like, you used to go out a lot? Did you used to play New Year's Eve a lot when you were playing music?

• 35:04Jake Brennan?

  Yes, I did. And the great thing about being a young, struggling musician is that you get paid on New Year's. And we were, you get paid like, I don't really, I still don't really understand the economics of it, but you, I think it's just because it becomes so competitive and clubs and bars need to have something going on. So I would always play, which means eventually I would always hate playing because it was really amateur hour. And you know, everyone's out, everyone's getting hammered.

• 35:37Speaker 05

  Everyone's yelling for requests probably too.

• 35:38Jake Brennan?

  Everybody's yelling for requests and that never really bothered me that much. But I, you know, there was, I do have this, one of the last times I did it, it was probably the last time I did it was with a band I was in called Bodega Girls. It might've been around 2008, 2009, something like that. This is a band that was never supposed to play live and we find ourselves playing a New Year's Eve.

• 36:00Speaker 05

  A real party band, right?

• 36:01Jake Brennan?

  Yeah, it was a party band. We played parties, like Lofts and Bushwick and like.

• 36:05Speaker 05

  Oh, like literal parties. Okay.

• 36:06Jake Brennan?

  Yeah, yeah. And the whole thing was like, we're just gonna record and then we'll play like parties. We won't play clubs. But now we're playing this club and it was like one of these clubs, it was the club right across the street from Foley's and like downtown Boston, like way downtown. And there was somebody famous DJing, I can't remember who, and we were playing like, it was like, you know, three, two, one, and then we're gonna like start playing. And it's like, it's like you cannot move type of thing. No stage. We're in this like dance, dance cave. And this, this like college townie kid was, I had my pedalboard at the edge of the stage, quote unquote stage, and he comes up with his beer and he's like, it's a full pint glass. And he's like, he's like pantomiming, like pouring

• 36:51Jake Brennan?

  it over my pedals. This is before we even start.

• 36:55Speaker 05

  Did you throttle him right then and there?

• 36:57Jake Brennan?

  I'm like setting my shit up and I got up and I got in his face. And this is like pure, I'm not a tough guy. I don't pretend to be a tough guy, but I have had moments of just like pure aggression, where the testosterone takes over.

• 37:11Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 37:12Jake Brennan?

  And I just, I got up and I got in his face and I very seriously said, if you do that, I'm going to hit you in the head with my guitar. And I had a solid body Mexican Paisley Telecaster, which is a beast of a weapon.

• 37:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, no fucking hollow body, baby. It's solid.

• 37:28Jake Brennan?

  Despite the Paisleys. So he just kind of laughs and walks away and I'm furious. I'm mad at myself for playing the gig, first of all. And sure enough, we start, it's chaos and he comes right up with his pint glass. And it's like, now it's like spilling all over because people are dancing. And I did it. I took my guitar and I Pete Townsend them. And then I got scared. I'm like, I'm gonna die. Like they're gonna come back.

• 37:53Speaker 05

  Right.

• 37:53Jake Brennan?

  And I remember Evan, Evan Kennedy, my good friend, who's in the band, the singer. He like went at the guy for extra measure. And it was like, three seconds into the first song, we're in a full fledged fight.

• 38:06Jake Brennan?

  But we finished the set and everything was fine. No one got arrested. No one got hurt, except that guy, he never came back. I never, didn't see him. I was waiting for him after. I figured something bad was gonna happen, never did. So I'm pretty sure this is the last time I played New Year's. All right, guys, that is Zeth and I diving into our favorite New Year's Eve content over in the Hollywood land podcast feed. Got some interesting developments happening in Hollywood land for the new year. You're not going to want to miss out on that. Adding a new bell and a new whistle, so to speak. So make sure you're subscribed to Hollywood land. Go to the Hollywood land podcast and subscribe to Hollywood land. Your new favorite, or maybe your old favorite Hollywood and true crime podcast.

• 38:51Jake Brennan?

  Helmed now, of course, by Mr., excuse me, Dr. Zeth Lundie. Subscribe to Hollywood land wherever podcasts are available. Guys, it's, um, it's that week between Christmas and New Year's. And I'm trying to relax. I'm trying to chill. But I gotta tell you, man, it's not really happening. I had a drum set to put together. I did okay. Took me about six hours longer than I wanted it to. I'm exaggerating. Didn't take that long. But I never put a drum kit together before. I never had to put skins on a drum, drum heads, excuse me, whatever you call them. And so that happened.

• 39:33Jake Brennan?

  And now I'm in the midst, my living room, there's like a gazillion parts to a basketball hoop that are all over the living room that I'm trying to put together. I started it yesterday. Stayed up late. Watched Monday Night Football while I was putting it together, went way longer than I wanted it to. And I'm probably about 50% of the way there and I still got to get it done before I take the kids to see Anaconda tonight, which I'm very excited about. We rewatched, not rewatch, I rewatched, but I showed them the first Anaconda yesterday as I started the basketball hoop assembly. And I gotta say, I'm really excited about the new one.

• 40:16Jake Brennan?

  Paul Rudd, Jack Black, big scary Anaconda. I don't think there's an Eric Stoltz in the new one, though. There should be. What's Eric Stoltz doing? Bring him back, you know, if for nothing else, just feed him to the Anaconda, you know? Get him in there, get him in the game. I know Cameron Crowder didn't direct it, but you know, it doesn't mean Eric Stoltz can't be in it. All right, it is, as mentioned, the New Year and guys, um, whole lot of wackadoo New Year's songs from New Year's Day that were number one over the course of music history. I was gonna do something on Bono and U2, the U2 song, New Year's Day, but I just don't, I don't feel like being that serious right now.

• 40:58Jake Brennan?

  So in the exclusive section, we're going to dive into G C Rally's Harper PTA and just some, some songs that are just gonna make you go, what the hell was America thinking? How did these songs end up being number one? That's coming up. Go to disgracedpod.com to sign up to hear that content.

• 41:30Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. Now, listen, you know about the archive, gazillion episodes in there. We talked about a few of them, a ton, actually, in this episode. Ozzy Osbourne, Frank Sinatra, Tina Turner, so many, so many more. Matt's gonna have episode notes for you in the show notes section of this here podcast for you to easily navigate the archive and listen to one or many of the 255 plus episodes that we have for you guys and are adding to every month. All right, let's recap. This week, we are revisiting the Lawson family murder that happened on Christmas Day back in the early part of the 20th century. And it's an adjacent story to our Derek in the Domino's tale that we are

• 42:12Jake Brennan?

  featuring in this week's episode. Our rewind episode on Hank Williams takes us back to New Year's Day, 1953. That's coming at you tomorrow. Next week, we've got a special announcement episode. We're taking you behind the scenes with the selection of our first tranche of episodes being released in 2026. You're not going to want to miss that. Zeth has all kinds of action for you over in the Hollywoodland feed. Make sure you're subscribed to Hollywoodland wherever you get your podcasts. I didn't mention it, but this film should be played loud, our new video podcast this, this month featuring Goodfellas. That's available for you over in Patreon. Go check that out. 617-906-6638. Guys, hit me up. Give me a call. Leave me a voicemail. Send me a text.

• 42:57Jake Brennan?

  Let's all keep digging into the dark corners of music history together. And lastly, do not forget Discos. This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do. And well, that is a disgrace. So I teased out in the exclusive section of the after party here. The number one song in America right now, I'm gonna give you the full, a full list of seven or eight or so, as I usually do, and let's just get into it. All right. I can't believe this list. I love it. Number one, All I Want for Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey, last week, one, peak position, one, weeks on chart 79. Number two, Rockin' Around the

• 43:42Jake Brennan?

  Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee, last week, three, peak position, one, weeks on chart 71. Number three, Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms, last week, two, peak position, two, weeks on chart 68. Number four, Last Christmas, Wham! Last week, four, peak position, two, weeks on chart 53. Number five, Santa Tell Me, Ariana Grande, last week, five, peak position, five, weeks on chart 36. Number six, The Christmas Song, Merry Christmas to You, Nat King Cole, last week, six, peak position, six, weeks on chart 56. Number seven,

• 44:29Speaker 06

  Quit talking and start mixing.

• 44:34Jake Brennan?

  Hey guys, time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyages. Backed by popular demand, this five-night, adults-only escape sets sail March 20th, 2027, to Grand Turk in the Beach Club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year, along with Zeph, and he and I will be taping a live version of Disgrace Land, along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners, Wisecrack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings, behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive

• 45:16Jake Brennan?

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• 45:56Speaker 07

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