Trump, Zelensky, & EU Leaders Meet at White House w/ Jack Murphy | EYES ON GEOPOLITICS

In this episode, Dee and Jack Murphy discuss the recent geopolitical developments surrounding the Ukraine summit, the implications of Trump's approach to Putin, and the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict. They delve into the complexities of security guarantees, NATO's role, and the shifting public sentiment towards Israel. The conversation also touches on domestic issues related to immigration enforcement and the dynamics of media content creation, concluding with updates on Jack's upcoming projects. 00:00 Introduction and Overview of Current Events 03:05 Analysis of the Trump-Zelensky Summit 05:58 The Dynamics of U. S.-Russia Relations 09:02 Security Guarantees and NATO's Role 12:10 The Situation in Israel-Palestine 14:54 Changing Perceptions of Israel and Anti-Semitism 17:54 The Future of U. S. Support for Israel 25:30 Crime and Governance: A Reflection on D. C. 29:07 The Role of Immigrants in the Economy 31:14 Law Enforcement and Constitutional Rights 32:29 Havana Syndrome: Insights and Revelations 34:34 Upcoming Projects and Future Endeavors 39:33 Challenges in Content Creation and Monetization Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

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  What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Eyes on Geopolitics. Very special guest today, our dear leader, Jack Murphy,

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  former Army Ranger, former Green Beret, podcaster, journalist, author.

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• 2:22Jack Murphy?

  You're a little salty today, Dimitri.

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  Yeah, I got a headache today. I slept wrong, I don't know, I need a new pillow, but besides that, a lot going on in the world, we got this new quilt, which is cool, somebody sent that, I forgot their names, but I'll tag them in Instagram, so thanks for that.

• 2:39Speaker 04

  What's going on, obviously, we had the summit yesterday with Zelensky and Trump, and afterwards was with a lot of the EU leaders, Germany, France, Italy, Finland, I'm missing other people, but trying to come up with a, I guess, a plan and of what to ask Putin, which is crazy, they have to ask Putin, who's the aggressor. Lot of stuff came out of it, I mean, people were watching with like, kinda like, holding their breath during the early on press conference in the Oval Office, because the last time we saw them there, they were yelling at each other.

• 3:13Speaker 04

  It went fine, I mean, people were saying it was like a great success, I mean, Trump did have like a couple of like, detours where he was talking absolute nonsense, whether it was mail-in voting, or DC with the National Guard, but that's domestic stuff. So we just, we'll stick to Ukraine and what's going on there, they did have a good, good, it was a decent enough meeting, I guess, they, I mean, I guess it's decent when they weren't, they didn't end it with yelling at each other and kicking them out of the White House, so I guess it's a win. After that press conference, they had like a few hour meeting where it was just Zelensky and Trump talking stuff, I guess, and then they met with the EU leaders, I mean, pretty unprecedented kind of summit, right, like, a bunch of EU leaders coming to the White

• 3:55Speaker 04

  House to figure this out, hasn't happened, I think, that many EU, European leaders or world leaders haven't been to the White House at the same time since JFK died. So, yeah.

• 4:10Speaker 04

  A couple of points that came out of this from the Financial Times, they said they had agreed, probably just, you know, just verbally for a hundred billion dollar weapons package for Ukraine. That's going to be paid by Europe and the European leaders, European countries sold by the US. Also affiliate fifty billion dollar potential deal for to integrate Ukrainian drone tech for the US and stuff. So, I mean, obviously they are at the leading edge of it. So it's definitely a good thing. So what are you tracking? There are some big points to this, obviously. Sorry, I'm fucking bloviating here, but.

• 4:51Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I mean, I hate to be like, kind of Debbie Downer, but I don't see so much really coming out of this at all. They had this summit. Putin appears to be stalling for time. We go right back to where we've always been is that Zelensky saying, I'm not going to give up my territory. And Putin is saying, we're not going to give you back your territory. So you keep ending up in the same place. And it appears that Putin is essentially, you know, stalling for time. He's able to do this because President Trump wants a quick win. You notice that he skipped right from, he doesn't even want to ceasefire anymore. He wants to go straight to the peace

• 5:32Jack Murphy?

  deal. This idea of like, what's going to put a million dollars in my pocket today? Who wants to make a deal? Let's make a deal. Let's do business here.

• 5:40Speaker 04

  I think he's really gunning for the Nobel Peace Prize. That's the thing.

• 5:43Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's looking for something, a feather that he can put in his hat right away. And that's not how a complicated peace treaty is going to be hashed out between these two countries. You know, in the meantime, Putin is able to continue to prosecute this war, this illegal invasion of Ukraine. And the United States is like, we're kind of done with Ukraine. We're not going to give you any more weapons. And so Putin has every incentive to draw this out as long as he possibly can. Essentially to run out the clock, right? I think that's what Wants to do and then probably deal with the next administration.

• 6:24Jack Murphy?

  Because the only thing unfortunately that the Russians really respond to is force and coercion. They don't respond to diplomacy like this whole idea of like, let's be nice to them. Let's take them in under our wing and try to help them out like that's. Nothing against Russian people, but that the Russian government, the the ruling regime is not going to respond to any of that. You know what they will respond to is, you know, steel and artillery rounds and tanks. So that's kind of a level that you have to meet them on. So yeah, unfortunately, I just don't see a lot coming out of this Alaska summit. It it seems like, you know, ponies and balloons to me.

• 7:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah, the Alaska summit totally felt like absolute bullshit.

• 7:12Speaker 04

  Just kind of placating Putin. It was funny too, because in the conversation supposedly Putin told Trump that. How mail in ballots are bullshit and that how he won the 2020 election and that if he was president. During that time, Russia would have never went into Ukraine. So clear, obviously, Trump afterwards was parroting all those talking points like literally just giving to him.

• 7:35Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, and Putin is just case officer in him.

• 7:37Speaker 04

  It's crazy.

• 7:38Jack Murphy?

  He's a KGB officer. He knows what he's doing. He's like, just tell this guy what he wants to hear, flatter him, make nice with them and he'll eat it up.

• 7:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, it and it was funny too, because for some reason, Trump obviously responds more to that from Putin. Because what happens with the EU leaders and Zelensky. And a lot of the people like the talking heads are included were saying. How, yeah, what Zelensky really needs to do is like, you know. Talk him up, placate him, you know, really massage his ego and it's like, dude. This guy's supposedly the this guy's the not supposedly, he's the president of the United States. It's like, really, you can get almost anything you want just by flattering him like literally and like just just like being a sycophant. It's almost incredible to me how this is like the the reality we're living in right now.

• 8:34Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, and I mean, there's also this sort of like self referential narcissism behind it that we see peace flowing through the White House through the persona of Donald Trump. Whereas this conflict has to do with territorial claims, historical claims, things that really don't have a hell of a lot to do with America in the first place.

• 8:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:55Jack Murphy?

  And the Europeans have to play ball because we are the undisputed global leader. We're irreplaceable. We are their security guarantee through NATO. So that, I mean, they have to try to play ball with us. I get it. Um, but I mean, it's the same, same situation with Palestine and Israel is like, peace does not flow through America or Americans or the American president. There are these longstanding historical issues that these people have with each other that, I mean, it's going to be much more difficult to hash out a sustainable peace than, you know, let's make a deal.

• 9:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I give you this, you give me that. It's all good and we shake hands and it's perfect.

• 9:36Jack Murphy?

  I tell you how great you are and you give me everything I want. Yeah, there's a bit more to it than that.

• 9:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I really do think that Trump's like gun and trying to gun for that Nobel Peace Prize, only because you've heard from other like countries and stuff like that, other leaders, like saying like, oh, you know, they, which is more a misogynist ego, like, oh, President Trump really deserves this. During the press conference yesterday, he did mention like, we stopped six wars, all this stuff where, you know, and it's interesting because it's almost like he doesn't give a shit what happens to Ukraine as long as he gets a deal done in terms of like the, the money for the weapons paid by the EU and gets his, his, you know, his accolades.

• 10:17Jack Murphy?

  So they'll hand him a gold trophy like at the end of a little, a little league game, like they give you that little.

• 10:21Speaker 04

  Give a shit if like Ukraine gives up all of his, all of their land and stuff like that, even land that, that Russia doesn't even have right now.

• 10:28Jack Murphy?

  Well, when he talks about Ukraine and Russia, I mean, it's clear that he doesn't really even know what's going on or what he's talking about. And you're right, he's, I don't think he's interested either.

• 10:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, whatsoever. Um, the big, big sticking point obviously is the security guarantees. Wickoff after the summit in Alaska, there was a thing on Article Five like quote unquote, security guarantees. Obviously that carried into Monday and that was I think the big, big point for Zelensky, Ukraine and the EU folks and the leaders of the EU. What do the security guarantees actually look like? They need to be ironclad. They need to be set in stone, right? Because they had security guarantees back in the 90s too, to give up their nukes and where did that go?

• 11:15Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, security, I mean NATO like is not NATO. Is it kind of like? Hey, thumbs up guys, you know, because Article Five binds us together. Like if you invade one NATO country, you go to war with the entirety of NATO. Um, what, what, otherwise, what is the guarantee really? Is it like, we got your back until, you know, the next election and the political tides turn and we lose interest in you? I mean, what, you know, what are we doing here?

• 11:46Speaker 04

  Yeah. And over the last couple of days, the Kremlin did come out and say, you know, they won't accept NATO countries, troops on the ground and things like that. So like, it's literally like, what is a secure, what the fuck is a security guarantee?

• 12:02Jack Murphy?

  I mean, I don't even-

• 12:03Speaker 04

  Especially if they're gonna swap land, right?

• 12:04Jack Murphy?

  I don't even understand why we allow Russia to dictate terms like that. You just tell them, we're gonna put NATO troops in, in, you know, Western Ukraine. And if you don't like that, do something about it.

• 12:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:15Jack Murphy?

  And watch how, watch how quick they back down.

• 12:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, they did say in a couple of statements over the last couple of days that like, oh, NATO troops would be valid military targets. But I mean, it's more like puffing their chest. Yeah, right. Yeah. You're gonna start shooting artillery like a battalion of fucking French guy, uh, army or whatever?

• 12:35Jack Murphy?

  Like an American, like mechanized brigade or something like, yeah, okay, dude.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:41Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, we'll see about that one.

• 12:43Speaker 04

  Uh, I mean, I was watching the press conference yesterday and it's just, I hate to harp on this, but it's a fact, like-

• 12:53Speaker 04

  From the soup thing, right? Like that was a fucking big thing to to like the the stuff with the mail in ballots and stuff like that. Like he's gonna make an executive order to get rid of mail in ballots. Meanwhile, he's voted through mail before.

• 13:09Jack Murphy?

  Apparently Russia has mail in ballots too.

• 13:11Speaker 04

  That's the funny thing too. Exactly. And this is like a recent thing that Putin like signed into law in the last like 10 years. So it's just it it's crazy. The level of like deference that Trump gives Putin. And I don't want to go to like he's an asset or whatever like that. But it's kind of incredible the level of which Trump kowtows to Putin and just he just literally parrots fucking talking points after a summit. I don't know.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  I don't know. I have no question. I have nothing. So you just keep talking. I have no clue.

• 13:50Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I I mean, what what the you know, the scenario that we've been laying out here? I mean, what it alludes to is a wasted four years that the conflict goes on for another four years without any resolution in sight. And we're kicking the can down the road to the next administration, whoever that ends up being. And they have to figure it out. That's kind of like the net impact of the the path that we're pursuing here.

• 14:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, there was some uh, the uh, German chancellor, when he spoke at the round table that where they were all at afterwards, he he really stuck on the fact that like we need a ceasefire now. And to then start talking about it actual lasting peace and stuff because as most people know, for Zelensky and Ukraine to land swap, they're gonna need a referendum. So uh, voted on by the people, which the last polls were saying about 78% are not cool with that.

• 14:48Jack Murphy?

  No, they're not.

• 14:49Speaker 04

  Right. And also like just the absolute like gall of Putin wanting to swap land that he doesn't even hold.

• 15:00Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, it's like, yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah.

• 15:03Speaker 04

  Like part of the Donbass. The Donbass isn't completely occupied and stuff like they want the entirety of the Donbass. It's like, bro, you don't have it. You want us to just give you this shit? Like, what world are you fucking living in? Also, I think a big point from Ukraine, because Olensky actually mentioned it during the press conference initially was, uh, Ukraine being able to like, keep their military equipped and strong and stuff like that, not to like, demilitarize.

• 15:29Speaker 04

  There was a lot of sentiment after where it's like, oh, this just might happen. This might happen. I mean, if I'm betting money, I don't think this happens because I don't think you could trust the Russians whatsoever. Unless there's like 200,000 NATO troops in the, in Ukraine.

• 15:46Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I, I don't see any big changes in the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

• 15:50Speaker 04

  Trying to think if there's anything else. I mean, the Russians were really

• 15:55Speaker 04

  full of shit. I mean,

• 15:58Speaker 04

  sorry, it's not high level analysis, but, um,

• 16:02Speaker 04

  you want to switch to, uh, what's going on with, uh, Israel, Palestine, you know, that shit show? Uh, did you see the, the one thing besides like the big strategic stuff? Did you see one of the, uh, Israeli ministers got bagged for like child porn? Got arrested and then they released them and he's going back to Israel?

• 16:20Jack Murphy?

  He was arrested in the United States.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  Right, correct. He was arrested here and he got freed and he's back in Israel.

• 16:26Jack Murphy?

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• 17:08Jack Murphy?

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  So yeah, more to like the 30,000 foot view. Hamas accepted a ceasefire proposal proposed by Egypt and Qatar. Where they released, I think about 20 or 25 hostages. I don't think, I think that's a no go from what I've been reading initially, maybe that'll change, but it seems like this shit's gonna keep going. Unfortunately, what are you looking at with this?

• 19:53Jack Murphy?

  I mean, I haven't been tracking it like the, the most recent developments, particularly closely. Just noticing, you know, kind of the tide beginning to turn. Just over the last month, maybe the last four weeks. Suddenly the mainstream media is talking about war crimes in Gaza.

• 20:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:12Jack Murphy?

  Where the last, what has it been two years? We were told emphatically, they are not happening. And if you dared to say anything about it and say, hey, this doesn't look right. You know, you were immediately besieged by, you know, accusations of antisemitism. So the tide is kind of starting to change, like the political winds are starting to blow in the other direction. And that comes with a bandwagoning effect where all these people who are pundits and stuff are like, oh, I've always been against the war crimes, you know?

• 20:42Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 20:42Jack Murphy?

  It's one of those kinds of things where

• 20:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:44Jack Murphy?

  as the truth starts to come out and becomes undeniable. People sort of jump on that bandwagon.

• 20:52Jack Murphy?

  So that's been interesting to see.

• 20:56Jack Murphy?

  The problem with it is I don't think it matters at this point. Gaza has been basically demolished. The Israelis have accomplished their maximalist goals to. I mean, they're, they're already well on their way to, you know, Gaza is just not going to exist anymore. So I think the sort of like, you know, coming out against war crimes in, you know, summer of 2025, it's already too late. Too little, too, too little, too late.

• 21:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. And the new plan is now, uh, probably gonna call up a couple hundred thousand reservists to reoccupy the majority, like over eighty percent or eighty-five percent of Gaza. That's the new plan from the IDF and, and well Netanyahu, because the IDF Chief of Staff came out and said that, you know, this is not, this is gonna be almost impossible. And the last week or so, you have seen, I think there was half a million Israelis out in Tel Aviv protesting to end the war, get the hostages. Yeah. So, so it definitely seems to be turning a bit. At least they get the hostages back.

• 22:05Speaker 04

  You know, because destroying Hamas is like an absolute.

• 22:10Speaker 04

  Sure, maybe they'll change their fucking name, but there's gonna be people that hate IDF and Israel in Gaza forever until you stop bombing the tits out of them and killing and starving children and women.

• 22:22Jack Murphy?

  I mean, it's, it's interesting that the IDF was once seen as this undefeatable, invincible force. Um, today we've seen them just trying to occupy and reoccupy clear and re-clear parts of Gaza. And they're just unable to gain any sort of decisive military control over about a twenty mile strip of land that is between their own border, their own country and the ocean. Uh, so they're, they're far from undefeatable. I mean, they seem, it seems like, I don't know what, maybe the myth was never a real thing. Or maybe there's just been a significant amount of rot within their military, um, in subsequent decades, but

• 23:03Jack Murphy?

  I don't thi- I don't think anyone's ever gonna see Israel in the same light after this. And I don't think Israelis will see themselves in the same light after this. Um, it's something that's gonna change the nature of their society as well.

• 23:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. And I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, like what? Israel's doing and they're far right, like the Netanyahu's, the Gavir's and the rest of them are doing outside of like genocide and killing, you know, innocent people is creating a brand new generation of actually anti Semitic people who can't really differentiate between, you know, far right Zionist dudes in the government and like just regular Jewish people that, you know, like at least in New York, you know, and you see your friends with and like they're normal fucking people, right? Most people can't make that distinction.

• 23:58Jack Murphy?

  If you look at American politics, both the far left and the far right is turning against Israel in a really profound way. For different reasons, very different reasons in some, in some ways, some manners. But if you look at some of the polls, I mean, it looks like Israel is maybe like a generation away from losing American political support.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  Which that's an interesting thing to like to note because we've talked about it before and it totally makes sense in terms of like the generational wise, but like as people see it right now, most people are like, you know, Israel and AIPAC, they have like such a hold over the US government and stuff like that and such influence over the government where people really, I think, don't think that that's a possibility. And it really is, right? Because the younger generation really, you know, maybe they'll change as they get older and like people get into politics and people become congresspeople and they're getting a ton of money from AIPAC, maybe they'll loosen up a little bit, but I'm talking about like overall the electorate, I guess, of the United States is probably.

• 25:05Jack Murphy?

  Right now, it's just a crack in the facade. You know, there's like widespread Democratic and Republican support for Israel right now. So like near term, nothing's, you know, they're not in any jeopardy or anything like that. I'm thinking more in like 25 years, 30 years from now. You look at all these young people growing up, especially, you know, young people that

• 25:30Jack Murphy?

  the messaging about the Holocaust isn't resonating with them as profoundly. I mean, that's 80 years in the past now. I think for young Arab Americans, especially when you try to hit them with the Holocaust, they just, they look at it like, okay, but we didn't do that. So, you know, what does it have to do with us? So I, I, I think some of the, I don't want to say some of the propaganda, but just some of the rhetoric just doesn't resonate with a younger generation that it would have even with mine, you know, I grew up around World War II veterans as a little kid. Israel is kind of tied into America's history with World War II and the conclusion of the war and the creation of the state of Israel.

• 26:13Jack Murphy?

  And so it's all kind of like wound up in, in the minds of somebody like me that's maybe 40 or older. But somebody who's 20 or younger, not, not so much.

• 26:24Speaker 04

  Not even. Not even close. And I mean, you know, we obviously see more and more the younger generation is,

• 26:35Speaker 04

  I read some stat like where it's like, like a lot of, like a big percentage is functionally illiterate. So you're telling me they're reading history books or even watching history movies or documentaries about World War II and what went down there and like actually informed about that stuff? I would, I would argue not. So yeah, as it goes farther in the future, I can't see them, it being, yeah, because we're working growing up. Everybody was like, you kind of knew what World War II is about, like you, you know, and like you said, like the inevitable byproduct of it was, you know, establishing the state of Israel, the US becoming the superpower that it is today and all that stuff. And then, you know, obviously the Cold War.

• 27:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I liked that. Once you told me that, I remember last week or whatever, when you told me that I was like, yo, that does make sense, right? Like the younger generation really doesn't have that connection.

• 27:33Speaker 04

  So it's interesting because you see how strong APAC is, right? Like they have like these guys around wrapped around their fucking fingers, meaning congresspeople.

• 27:41Jack Murphy?

  I think the war crimes have polarized a lot of people on the left. And I think there's a rising tide of antisemitism on the right, the far right, I should say. And I'm not, not centrists or even like MAGA people who are very pro-Israel, but like the far right, I'm talking about like the Nick Fuentes types.

• 28:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:04Jack Murphy?

  Um, you can see it there on the fringes and whether or not it gains more traction remains to be seen. But that it's there is concerning, right? Like even, even though I have political disagreements with the state of Israel. I don't want to see Israel destroyed.

• 28:21Speaker 04

  Right.

• 28:21Jack Murphy?

  I don't hate Israeli people. I, I certainly don't have any issue with Jewish people. So, you know, any kind of rise in antisemitic behavior, whether it's on the right or the left is troubling, right?

• 28:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:36Speaker 04

  Yeah. You see kind of this, this chasm, both on the right and the left, like especially MAGA, because you have MAGA who's like, you know, you're like the neo con style MAGA folks. And then you have like the quote unquote, America first people who are, you know, pinch of pinchers racist and stuff like that.

• 28:53Jack Murphy?

  Right? You're right.

• 28:54Speaker 04

  Total split. And even lefties too, like there's a total split there too, because you have like the hardcore, like, tanky anti-West people that, you know, have no problem like supporting Hezbollah or supporting Hamas and talking about them like they're good, good organizations, right? And yeah, it's kind of, I feel like you miss the forest for the trees, right? Like you're not thinking, you're not thinking pragmatically. And how, you know, how things could really work, meaning like. There's going to be a power structure there, even if you got rid of Hamas or Hezbollah completely, there's going to be a vacuum that's going to get filled and it's not going to be filled by

• 29:36Speaker 04

  a democratically, you know, secular democratic liberal democracy guys like Thomas Jeffers is not going to fill the gap.

• 29:46Jack Murphy?

  Well, that's back to the American centric view that I was mentioning earlier that we think everything flows through us and that we can create little states around the world that look like us.

• 29:58Speaker 04

  Yeah. Which is hilarious. You would think that we would learn.

• 30:04Jack Murphy?

  Well, I mean, look at everything that's happening right now. Extensively, we cannot get crime in Washington DC under control. So perhaps we should hedge our bets as far as getting crime on the Gaza Strip under control. That might not be like a thing that America can do. You know, Afghanistan, Vietnam, like maybe there are limits to American power after all.

• 30:25Speaker 04

  Right. Yeah, totally. The DC stuff is kind of insane. I know this is more geopolitical stuff, but fact is crime in DC has gone down like 35 to 40% over the last like four or five years.

• 30:40Speaker 04

  So, ah, man, it's, things that are going on here are kind of batshit and I'm almost embarrassed that this, I'm not almost embarrassed, I'm embarrassed that this shit's going on. I'm trying to, I'm not trying, I'm stunned being diplomatic here.

• 30:57Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. I mean, I feel ashamed. Uh, you know, where, um, actually where my, where my girlfriend lives and right where we had our first date years ago, um, the kids were playing, they had a little league game the other day and ICE was there asking little kids where they're from.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  No shit. That's fucking insane, bro. And let me guess, the kids were like Hispanic?

• 31:20Jack Murphy?

  I don't know their racial background, but Hispanics play baseball.

• 31:25Speaker 04

  Well, that's true too. Yeah.

• 31:27Jack Murphy?

  Um, but the coach got in the way and like told them to fuck off. But I mean, the fact that there are federal agents asking little kids where they're from, like that's just profoundly un-American.

• 31:38Speaker 04

  Dude, it's crazy. It's unconstitutional in like every fucking way possible, right? Like Fourth Amendment, right? Don't you have a right to privacy? Even if you're not a citizen? The Constitution extends to people that are not citizens. At least in some aspects, so. I didn't know that. Ice was asking little fucking what 10 year old, 12 year olds like.

• 32:00Jack Murphy?

  Was said a little league game. That's like, yeah, 10 year old kids.

• 32:03Speaker 04

  Oh my gosh. Well, what if a kid's like, yeah, I'm from fucking Guatemala and they fucking snatched a kid?

• 32:08Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 04

  And deal with it later?

• 32:10Jack Murphy?

  Like half of, uh, half of New York City could honestly say I'm from Puerto Rico.

• 32:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, right.

• 32:16Jack Murphy?

  And also be an American citizen.

• 32:19Speaker 04

  That's so fucking crazy that they're federal agents doing that. Did you see that ICE, uh, lower like the, uh, age like for recruitment and stuff like that and are at like offering like big signing bonuses?

• 32:30Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, they're doing the same at the FBI. I mean, they're trying to create an army of morons essentially who will follow orders. Like you don't want to recruit smart people to do these jobs because they might have an independent thought. They might decide, hey, this is wrong. Like, why are we doing this? You don't want those people. You want the person that like, hey, steady paycheck as long as it comes in every month, um, I'll do whatever you tell me to.

• 32:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, steady paycheck and benefits will get you a long way. You know what I mean? Like you'll do, you'll commit unconstitutional shit.

• 33:03Jack Murphy?

  For government Bennys and, you know, a, a GS, uh, seven salary. I hope it's worth it.

• 33:10Speaker 04

  Um,

• 33:13Speaker 04

  what a nightmare. What a nightmare. Let's get into it though. I like, fuck it. I've been kind of biting my tongue on the eyes on because like, we talk more for foreign stuff and like, I'm clearly

• 33:25Speaker 04

  in the camp of like Israelis committing genocide and Netanyahu and his right cabinet is a disaster and this stuff with ICE like, like immigrants, especially South American immigrants, run our fucking economy. They are the backbone lifeblood of the economy. Nothing would get done. You would never get your DoorDash order. You would never get the construction that's done in, in across the country. It's powered by immigrant labor, both illegal and legal.

• 33:55Speaker 04

  Because the fact is, white people are not going to be interested in breaking their back, shoveling shit, digging up ditches, or washing dishes in a restaurant for fifteen, seventeen dollars an hour. That's a fact.

• 34:07Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, and they still won't be after we kick out all of these illegals.

• 34:11Speaker 04

  Right. Who's gonna do it? And the funny thing is too, is like, they're not even going after like the MS thirteen guys, like the gangs that they said, like, they actively avoid areas in like LA where there's high gang activity. And they're just, they're just trying to fucking go after the guys who are at Home Depot looking for a gig.

• 34:30Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, low hanging fruit, Little League games.

• 34:32Speaker 04

  The Little League game thing is unfucking real to me, dude. Like, what happens if you snatch a kid that's eleven years old? And they have parents and stuff like what?

• 34:41Jack Murphy?

  I mean, look at the videos of these guys. They're all masked up, gunned up like morons. I mean, this is, this is the lowest common denominator. These guys are morons. They're just thugs with guns.

• 34:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. And like with that big, beautiful bill, ICE has become the largest federal agency. They're, I think they're getting like seventy-five billion a year in funding. Which is, is pretty gnarly to me. I'm not saying they shouldn't be funded. I think they should be funded and we should have secure borders and stuff like that. But I don't know if we should just be randomly going after people at Little League games, asking them where they're from.

• 35:17Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, I, I don't think we should have law enforcement officers masked up who refuse to identify themselves, who go into buildings without warrants and just snatch people up. And some of them are illegal, some of them aren't. You know, I mean, no, I don't agree with that.

• 35:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. Man. What else? What do you got? What are you tracking with Highside? What are we working on?

• 35:42Jack Murphy?

  Actually, I'm writing some book reviews right now.

• 35:47Jack Murphy?

  I got them right here. Tim Weiner's book, Seth Harp's book, which will, he'll be on the show on Team House this Friday and Airborne Mafia. So I read all three of these, working on reviews of them. Mr. Naylor is working on part two of our Havana Syndrome. Nice. So both of those things, you should see August and September.

• 36:21Speaker 04

  Uh, just to remind people about the Havana, like part one, um, want to give a quick rundown about that and what to expect for round two?

• 36:30Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. I mean, the first part of it, it really focuses on the initial cohort of guys that were hit in Havana, Cuba, and kind of the trials and tribulations they went through with the CIA and are still going through in some ways. Um, part two focuses a bit more on the medical side of it. Um, we get a little bit deeper into the science, um, into the, you know, what is this device exactly? What does it do? How does it work? Um, and, and talk to the actual doctors that treated some of the patients about what they went through. Um, and a few other revelations about some of the bureaucratic bullshit that these guys are still dealing with.

• 37:08Speaker 04

  Yeah. And to me, the most, uh, like eye popping, surprising, shocking part of, from part one was, um, some of these guys, places were broken into and stuff like that.

• 37:22Jack Murphy?

  In the United States.

• 37:23Speaker 04

  In the United States, the tactics that are done to them, usually when they're like out on, you know, as working as case officers or whatever, that, you know, the, the sap, like the harassment that's done to them overseas was happening in the United States.

• 37:39Speaker 04

  Which is gnarly, right? Like it's so there's it's so much deeper and more like intriguing than like just like people trying to fight for like their rights to like healthcare after being hurt in the line of like duty. Um, yeah. So I'm excited about the round two on this part two. It's gonna be good. Also, we got a book. We got a book coming out, too. We got

• 38:04Speaker 04

  your novel coming out next year.

• 38:06Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, next year, June 23rd, 2026 is the release date of the novel. And we have a book cover. I don't know if I'm allowed to say the title or what the synopsis is. I'm waiting on the kind of like final clearance of the book with my editor. Um, and then it'll go into go to the copy editor and the book will be finalized and, you know, ready for publication.

• 38:37Jack Murphy?

  But I'm excited about it, excited to get it out. And, you know, once I can, I'll definitely have more to say about it. And also, I, not last week, the week before I was down in South Carolina, working on a documentary film. Um, I'll just say it's a Vietnam War documentary. And I'll definitely talk much more about that as, as you know, I'm allowed to when the director says it's okay to.

• 39:06Speaker 04

  They made him shave his beard. They made you shave your beard.

• 39:09Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, that's why I have my little short beard here. I had a small on camera role and they asked me to shave. Uh, so, yeah, I'll definitely talk more about that when, you know, I'm permitted to.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, I saw the book cover. I saw that I've heard the book title and it's they're pretty both pretty cool. I'm looking for I've read the book and it's pretty solid, too. It's all actually awesome. It should be made into a movie.

• 39:35Jack Murphy?

  I think, I think it's really gonna resonate by the time it comes out, especially. Um, I'll say there is sort of a, um,

• 39:46Jack Murphy?

  There's sort of a subplot about artificial intelligence in the book and people who worship it.

• 39:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:53Jack Murphy?

  And that's just one little small part of it, but I, I think, I think it'll resonate with people when, when it's released.

• 40:00Speaker 04

  Quite apt for the day, the time.

• 40:02Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 40:02Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? Like, we're seeing it in real time happening. Which I think like AI is a great tool that you could use, but I, I don't think it's the be all and all, at least not yet. You know what I mean?

• 40:15Jack Murphy?

  Definitely not.

• 40:17Speaker 04

  What else? High side? What do you got cooking on the back burner? Are you looking at like tracking on maybe doing an, an, a, a piece about?

• 40:24Jack Murphy?

  Uh, there are a couple of things, a couple of big things, um, big projects that Sean and I have been eyeballing for a while. Um, that I, I can't really say anything about right now. They're, they're big stories, pretty big, like heavy lift to get some of those off the ground. There are a couple of other smaller ones, um, JSOC operations that I'd like to write about. I'd like to return to writing about Syria at some point too. But right now, yeah, it's wrapping up the Havana syndrome stuff. And what, once we're done with that, we will, um, we'll be able to focus on some other things.

• 41:05Jack Murphy?

  Down the line, um, not immediately, but down the line, if I were to write like a, um, a sequel to this Havana syndrome series, I'd like to write a story similar to how I wrote about, um, the guys that got hit in Havana. I'd like to do that, but write about the guys that got hit in China.

• 41:26Jack Murphy?

  Because the thing was Havana, China, Vienna were like three of the big spots where this started happening. So I'd like to go and do like a deep dive on China and see like, how was it different there? How was it the same? You know, really get into that. Um, but that's another project for another day.

• 41:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. Cause the China stuff is like their questions, right? Like, was it China doing it? Was it Russia doing it? Cause it's the prevailing thought is that like Russia is mainly behind this.

• 41:54Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 41:54Speaker 04

  I'm like, have the balls to do this. Um, but in China, I feel like there are other questions, right? Cause obviously China's, you know, a rival.

• 42:04Jack Murphy?

  Yeah. I mean, there are lots of questions.

• 42:09Speaker 04

  Cool, bro.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  What the fuck else? What else is going on? How's life? Good?

• 42:14Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, man. Can't complain. I was, uh, I, so I did that film, uh, and then I went and took a small vacation upstate last week. So was in upstate New York cruising around.

• 42:29Jack Murphy?

  Came back to the city and over the weekend drove out to, uh, City Island. Have you ever been out there?

• 42:38Jack Murphy?

  And so it's an island off the coast of the Bronx, right off the coast. There's, take a small bridge to get there. Uh, has a history of shipbuilding, sailmaking, all that kind of stuff. Um, the, what were they called? The Hellgate? Hellgate pilots? So like the, the waters between the East River, um, you know, and going north through Queens towards Long Island, I guess into the Long Island Sound. Those were especially treacherous waters. And there were specialized boat captains that would take the ships from.

• 43:12Speaker 02

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• 43:27Speaker 07

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• 44:39Jack Murphy?

  Point A to point B to get through there. So anyway, that's sort of the history of City Island, but it's interesting because it's a part of New York City. But it's sort of like a, like a little Cape Cod out there.

• 44:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:50Jack Murphy?

  The way it feels.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  That's what I've heard, the same thing. Yeah.

• 44:51Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, yeah. Uh, so that, that was cool. Um, but otherwise, yeah, now I'm, I'm back to real life trying to catch up on everything that I've missed the last couple of weeks.

• 45:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, back on the grind. Especially this week, we have fucking, we are shooting three Teamhouse episodes plus Eyes on episodes, you're here doing this with me. So, yeah, it's good. We're gonna get back into the grind pretty heavily. So, do us all a favor though. If you like what you see both on Eyes on and Teamhouse, join our Patreon. It's Patreon.com slash Teamhouse. That link is in the description as well. Uh, you get ad free audio and video for both Eyes on and the Teamhouse. We started doing bonus segments again with the Teamhouse on most shows, not all of them, but you know, every few, you know,

• 45:39Speaker 04

  every other show probably do a bonus segment and you're only gonna have access to that. Some spicier stories that can't really be told in general public will go there.

• 45:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, I got nothing else. I'm fucking, I'm still red hot today. I'm really salty. I don't know why. It's my, it's because I have a headache and I'm annoyed and I didn't sleep well. Like my neck, I woke up with a stiff neck and that totally threw me off. Um,

• 46:04Speaker 04

  I mean, there are a myriad of things that are bothering me, especially in the YouTube world. That's why you guys need to join our Patreon and help support us because YouTube is an absolute fucking disaster for us. Not a disaster, but it, compared to what it was a year ago, I would say it's pretty fucked up.

• 46:22Jack Murphy?

  I would describe it as useless. Like, there's basically no reason for us to be on YouTube at this point, just, just to be totally real.

• 46:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I tend to agree with you. The funny thing is like YouTube bar none is like the only place where you can actually like garner an audience faster. And a video or a show can really take off, but we have not seen that in a while and the revenue wise, it's crazy because our revenue's up everywhere else. But YouTube revenue is like in the fucking absolute shitter. It's like nominal, frankly, what the YouTube revenue is and it's it's incredible like what's happened.

• 47:01Jack Murphy?

  I mean, I think that, you know, YouTube doesn't like the way that we use it. And I think Substack doesn't necessarily like the way that we use it either.

• 47:12Speaker 04

  Why? Infrequently?

• 47:14Jack Murphy?

  Yeah, not that I have any complaints about Substack. It's just I think that they

• 47:20Jack Murphy?

  have in mind more like that you're gonna write hot takes on there every day. And I think YouTube is sort of the same way that they have this attitude, this idea that, you know, you're gonna do hot takes on conspiracy theories and weird political stuff every day and post that up. And I mean, I laugh because everybody, you know, you see article after article being written about like, why is America so polarized? Why are people so crazy? It's not a mystery to me.

• 47:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, right.

• 47:55Jack Murphy?

  The algorithm has monetized it. I mean, the business model is, are you crazy? No? Okay, how can I make you crazy?

• 48:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:05Jack Murphy?

  Or if your answer is yes, you are crazy, then the business model is how can I make you even more crazy than you already are?

• 48:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, 100%. 100%. I mean,

• 48:19Speaker 04

  YouTube specifically is like become like you need to really ride the algorithm. Is it not only needs to be topical, but it needs to be salacious and you gotta ride that like reactionary wave?

• 48:32Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 48:32Speaker 04

  A little bit like, you know, reacting to this crazy thing and like really like giving out hot takes, maybe even if you don't believe in it, which is hilarious, right? Like, I can kind of respect it if you're like totally back shit and you and you actually believe it, but let's, I mean, hopefully people aren't actually totally insane, but.

• 48:52Jack Murphy?

  Commitment to the bit.

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's just crazy. Also, like the comedians with like the cancel culture shit. It's like, guys.

• 49:01Speaker 04

  You guys, most of the guys that complain about this are comedians that have massive podcasts and do massive numbers on the road. So like they're making millions and millions of dollars a year. It's like no one's canceling it. You're actually thriving. You're actually thriving right now. While you complain about possible cancel culture because you say like the F word or whatever, you know what I mean? Like it's not actually true.

• 49:27Speaker 04

  At all.

• 49:30Speaker 04

  So let's just get reactionary, bro. Let's do it. I want to jet ski. I want to be rich.

• 49:37Jack Murphy?

  Here is why COVID-19 was a hoax. I have the hidden mysteries. All will be revealed.

• 49:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. I'm going to start getting you to react to like Tim Kennedy stuff.

• 49:51Jack Murphy?

  Dude, I just don't care. That's the, that's the problem that I have is that I just don't give a shit about these kind of like stupid things like. I, I see it every day. I mean, I think we were talking about it yesterday. Like you log on to Instagram and like it's Tim Kennedy, Tim Kennedy, Tim Kennedy.

• 50:09Speaker 04

  It's crazy.

• 50:10Jack Murphy?

  It's like, hey dude, like one post will suffice.

• 50:14Jack Murphy?

  I'm not obsessed with this dude. I'm sorry.

• 50:18Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's just a, it's a story that never really ends. I literally switch over from my Instagram to Team House. The first three posts I see are Tim Kennedy and it's just some random podcast that's talking about Tim Kennedy and it's like. I get it, guys. He's, he lied and stuff and he's a goober. I understand like he's an asshole, but like. Move on to something else. Like find another piece of drama you can find like. I don't know. Talk about trans in the military. Like just switch it up, man. You know what I mean? Like hit the, hit the greatest hits and stuff.

• 50:54Speaker 04

  Well, we're gonna start getting into it because I really want a, I want a summer home and I want a jet ski. You know, Jack, so that's we gotta get into.

• 51:03Jack Murphy?

  Those are probably attainable goals.

• 51:05Speaker 04

  You think so? I don't know.

• 51:06Jack Murphy?

  Yeah.

• 51:08Speaker 04

  You know how they can be attained if you guys go to patreon.com slash the team has to support the show.

• 51:15Speaker 04

  I got nothing else. I mean, I got a lot else we can complain about, but we could do that next time. Jack, we should do this once a week, bro. Every Tuesday. What are you feeling? How are your thoughts on that?

• 51:25Jack Murphy?

  Dude, I am a podcasting Muldoon. Like I, I feel like wore down at a certain point when, especially when you have me doing this multiple times a day.

• 51:34Speaker 04

  I know, I know. I saw you. I literally saw you within the last twenty, not even twelve hours.

• 51:41Jack Murphy?

  Yes, I know. I recall.

• 51:44Speaker 04

  And we were pottin'.

• 51:46Speaker 04

  Which is a good show. David Grange, former, former everything, former everything, LERP, Ranger, Special Forces, Delta Force Commander, General. Incredible career. So check that out. It's coming out tonight, most likely Tuesday. So it'll be out soon. So if you're watching this, it's probably out right now. So, or listening.

• 52:07Speaker 04

  All right, Jack, I love you. Go to the high side. The link is in the description.

• 52:14Speaker 04

  Connecting Vets, of course. Take a look. We defy is also out for available. The secret history of Special Forces, Jack's book. History book about SF, really good, cool, cool, uh, front cover. I wonder who made that. Me.

• 52:33Speaker 04

  And, uh, yeah, good stuff. Thanks, Jack.

• 52:37Jack Murphy?

  All right. Take care, guys.

• 52:40Jack Murphy?

  Hey, guys. I want to tell all of you today about a new newsletter that we're launching that encompasses both the Team House podcast, the Eyes On podcast, and the High Side News Outlet, which I run with Sean Naylor. Uh, the newsletter is going to be once a week. It's going to come into your inbox and you're going to get the most current podcasts on Eyes On and the Team House and whatever's topical or current on the high side. So it's another way for us to get the information out to you as social media algorithms are pretty iffy and you never really know what you're gonna get. Um, so this is a once a week email. It'll slide into your inbox and it will have, you know, the greatest hits of that week.

• 53:21Speaker 06

  It's really good, man. I'm checking it out.

• 53:24Jack Murphy?

  The website for it is teamhousepodcast.kit.com/join. Teamhousepodcast.kit.com/join. Go there and you enter into your email list, or you enter your email into the little thing on the website and you're good to go. And that'll be it. So we really appreciate your support and hope you'll consider signing up. Where's the link? The link will also be down in the description if you're looking for it there.

• 53:52Speaker 06

  And that's teamhousepodcast.

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  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic, in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

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• 58:00Speaker 07

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  Hi, I'm Jenna Oshkowitz. You might know me from Glee. This is At the Table, the food allergy podcast, a show about food, connection, and what it really looks like to live with food allergies. Each episode, we hear stories from real people like Daniel.

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  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic. In a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

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  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

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  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

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