The Snack: Coachella, Euphoria, Alex vs. Alix, and the Antichrist

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we’re talking about: Justin Bieber’s Coachella performance Brand trips canceling last minute – true or false? North West Coachella controversy Amanda Batula and West galavanting around NYC Alex Cooper vs. Alix Earle Euphoria S3 premiere Headlines: Tr*mp’s Jesus meme scandal, Artemis II space mission, Love on the Spectrum’s Abbey and David split Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for live show tickets and more. Thank you to our partners this week: FP Movement: Go to http://fpmovement.com to shop their full line of activewear. Spark: Get 30% off plus free shipping at https://drinkspark.com with code GGE. IM8: Get a free welcome kit, five free travel sachets and 10% off your order at https://im8health.com/gge and use code GGE. Blissy: Wake up with clearer skin and smoother hair, get 30% off at https://blissy.com/gge with code GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  This week on the snack, Coachella, Alex versus Alex, and is Trump Jesus? This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys. Is he, though? I don't know. I thought he was Jesus. Isn't that why we all voted for him?

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's Jesus, he's a doctor. He looks just like him. Equally hot. Equally as mystical.

• 0:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Raina, I wanted to say happy one year anniversary to the girls' trip to space.

• 0:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Girl bosses. The Blue Origin flight with Katy Perry, who's in the news for some other reasons right now. But the Cut posted. It did? The Cut posted happy one year anniversary to whatever this was. Well, that was an amazing week in history. But then one year later, a real space mission, which we'll talk about today, which we were remiss to not talk about last week. Well, I didn't know about it. Raina doesn't care about it. No, I don't care. I didn't even know. Raina does not care about women in STEM. You heard it here first.

• 1:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't even know that. We went to the moon. You probably think the S in STEM is for space. It was science. Look at you go. Well, I've been joking about it on stage, women in STEM. I throw it in every once in a while, so I had to know what it meant. And we are two weeks out from my special. I'm so excited, Ashley. airing on YouTube. Big time for YouTube. We'll talk about that today, too. Hot time for YouTube, everybody. Is YouTube hot again? It's been hot. It's the hottest. I love this. I love like having complete ownership of this and debuting it on YouTube and doing a live, interactive experience. And it's just like, every day YouTube becomes hotter. Like, the people in the industry are like, in five years, everybody will be watching everything on YouTube. YouTube is having a hot girl spring.

• 1:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like Netflix is very worried about YouTube. This is happening.

• 2:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you talked.

• 2:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  On the, in, in, yeah, we have the inside track.

• 2:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Netflix is shaking.

• 2:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  So subscribe to my YouTube. It will be on my personal, so, which is Ashley Hesseltine. So youtube.com backslash at Ashley Hesseltine. And you can subscribe, of course. And so you will get notified and then you can sign up for the special, the countdown. So two weeks from today, April 30th, 8:00 PM Eastern Time, so 5:00 PM Pacific. And I will be in the chat with you guys. And I don't know where I'm gonna be quite yet. Still figuring out my schedule and who I'm gonna be watching it with. It won't be Raina.

• 2:33Rayna Greenberg?

  So sad.

• 2:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina has a show, but she has, we have collected, both decided that she's gonna just pull up YouTube, like Justin Bieber at Coachella and play this special.

• 2:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like it's very of the moment, you know? Like, and also, like, I'm gonna be in Seattle, which I'm very excited about, but you didn't do a show in Seattle. And so like, I will be there in Seattle. They'll get me, but they'll also get you.

• 2:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 2:55Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys are not gonna do that, but I want to do that.

• 2:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, I'm just so sad I'm not gonna be with you, but it's okay.

• 3:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't believe it.

• 3:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then the next day, if you would like to watch it on Prime Video in the US, wanna specify, you can. That'll be May 1st, but I'm pushing this YouTube premiere. I'm really excited about it.

• 3:11Rayna Greenberg?

  I wanna remind people that like, cause a boy reminded me the other day, like, you can put YouTube on your television. Like, put it on your TV. I think not everybody knows. Like, project it on your TV, obviously. So don't watch it on your computer. Like, make a whole night about it, have snacks, have a girls' night.

• 3:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, y'all better do that.

• 3:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Do a themed night, like, do costumes, Instagram story it, like, tag us, tag me, tag Ashley. I'm just, I'm excited to see, like, have a watch party.

• 3:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent. Okay, so, yes, two weeks from today. So my YouTube, again, Ashley Heseltine, not Ash Hess, the full name. Head over there, subscribe. I would love to have you guys as subscribers and then watch the space.

• 3:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Watch YouTube. Netflix is shaking.

• 3:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I talk to everybody at Netflix and they're scared.

• 3:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Dead. Like, once YouTube really kind of figures out more of their navigation, it's over for you bitches. Because it is a little chaotic over there. That's why I need you guys to make sure you're subscribed so you know where to find this shit when it airs.

• 4:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 4:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, let's thank our partners.

• 4:09Rayna Greenberg?

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• 4:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to IM8. Get a free welcome kit, five free travel sachets, and 10% off your order at IM8health.com/GGE and use code GGE. And Blissie, wake up with clearer skin and smoother hair. Get 30% off at blissy.com/GGE with code GGE. We have some new partners today. I'm so excited to talk about.

• 4:39Rayna Greenberg?

  So I, Ashley and I obviously build the outlines together, but I type in these, the pre-rolls. I got nervous. I was like, this is so much new information.

• 4:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so lots of new stuff today. Don't, don't skip it. Okay, we're going to kick this off with a Coachella report, obviously. I mean, I need to understand how many people go to Coachella and how many people from LA go to Coachella, because the city is empty. And I feel like that's a crazy thing. It's not crazy, but you feel it. People joke about LA being empty. It feels empty. When I landed on Sunday, there was no one in the airport driving over here. I'm getting here quicker than ever before. Like, there's no traffic.

• 5:12Rayna Greenberg?

  All the food Instagrams were like, go to the hotspots now, except for Common Ground you can't get into, but.

• 5:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Max and Helen's. So I saw, I saw TikTok and it was like, going to Max and Helen's while the quote unquote "city is empty" and she walks up to the hostess stand and they say, "Five and a half hours." That's this diner that is just like impossible to get into. You got in once because there was a, what, one bar stool?

• 5:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, my hack is that I go eat by myself and I go to lunch. And yes, I mean, I did this in Austin also. There was like the best brunch and the hardest reservation to get in Austin was this place. And I just went by myself and I got the solo bar stool.

• 5:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay, can we just, how many people go to, it looks.

• 5:47Rayna Greenberg?

  It's the biggest festival in the country. I don't remember. I think it's 300,000 people over two weekends. So the first weekend already happened and then next weekend it all, so it's two weekends in a row. And then the third week is like Stagecoach.

• 6:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so 100 and. 25,000 to 130,000 people per day. So spread over two consecutive three day weekends. This brings the total attendance to about 750,000 visitors annually. And just so many of those people are from LA. You really feel it. I remember last year's one night, Shashank and I went out and the Uber driver was like, I just got back from Coachella. And then there was no one in the bar. Like it is, this is not a hot take, but you, you think you wouldn't feel it, but you do.

• 6:25Rayna Greenberg?

  It's very west coast also. Like when we lived in New York, I didn't know one person that ever went. Except for some influencers, like it is west coast people. So it's my whole feed for this week. Day three was so, day one, everybody's like just fresh, ready to go, like fresh out the box. Day two outfits, day three, people are hanging on by a thread. Outfits on day three are hysterical. People are like, I'm wearing jeans and a T-shirt. I don't have the strength.

• 6:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Coachella is not for us and this is no shade. I love to see people having fun. I love that this is people's Superbowl. I love that they get all dressed up, have the time of their lives, do all the things. It's not for us.

• 7:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm forty.

• 7:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, yeah, you're right. It's age is part of it. We did go once a few years ago. We left after one day. I like a very specific music festival experience. I've been to so many in my life and I definitely would have liked this a lot more 10 years ago. But it's just not for me in terms of the size, the amount of people, the amount of walking you have to do, the, the weather, the elements, all that stuff.

• 7:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Getting out of it.

• 7:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Getting out of it.

• 7:26Rayna Greenberg?

  People were saying like when they left Bieber, they were walking like three miles in the dark at two in the morning to get back to their house. That's a very common experience. It's not for me.

• 7:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just too big, I think. And, but I respect it. This is the biggest, most important music festival that exists, but I don't want to be there. So I don't have FOMO, which I love. So there, when there's things I am like, I really want to be there or I wish we would have gone like the Superbowl, South by Southwest this year. I was like, we should have gone, you know, there's certain things I'm like, and they're hard for me to kind of watch because I want to be there. This, I don't want to be there. So I love it.

• 8:00Rayna Greenberg?

  It's so weird though.

• 8:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love it.

• 8:02Rayna Greenberg?

  You and I love a theme. You and I love, I love planning three days of outfits. Nothing gives me a thrill like that. I just don't care. I don't want to go.

• 8:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Three days is crazy for a festival. Like Lovers and Friends Festival years ago was the best day of my life. And but like, I could have done one more, but three is so extreme.

• 8:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I think you can only buy a three day pass.

• 8:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 8:22Rayna Greenberg?

  You can't buy a one day pass.

• 8:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  I used to do this all the time. Like, we would do like Hangout Fest, and we've been to Lollapalooza, and like, all these things. Like, I used to love it. It's just not for me.

• 8:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't do it.

• 8:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  But more power to you guys having your

• 8:30Rayna Greenberg?

  You're right. I don't have FOMO.

• 8:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't have FOMO. It feels nice.

• 8:33Rayna Greenberg?

  We went the first year. We tried it.

• 8:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  We tried it.

• 8:36Rayna Greenberg?

  What night we left?

• 8:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  We left. Okay, this Bieber performance, so Justin Bieber had lines, and I loved it so much watching from my couch. Like, I was feeling like, oh, I would have loved to be there. I loved it so much.

• 8:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I loved it. Those are my favorite Bieber songs. Sorry, Baby, and Beauty and the Beast. Like, those are my favorite three Bieber songs. I just, I feel so much nostalgia. And to watch him stream his YouTubes and him singing these songs as like a kid, and the discrepancy in his voice as an adult and a kid, like, it's amazing to watch. I just, I really had so much fun watching it.

• 9:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So what he did, 90 minute show, the set was awesome. Like, I loved the way it looked, but it was minimalist. And he basically started it with like 45 minutes of swag, and swag too, and all of his newer stuff. And there was some dancing, but he was up on his feet. And then he sat down, and he pulled up his YouTube, and he played all these older songs. So first of all, this whole narrative about him playing from YouTube because he sold his catalog, and he had to pay a fee to play those songs is just totally inaccurate, by the way. So people thought they had a hot take with why he did it. Now, that's nothing to do with it. You can play whatever you want. You and I can play any song we want at our shows. We can't put them in this podcast and put them on YouTube. Like, you have a performance license. That's why artists can play covers. Like, he can play whatever he want, he wanted. I think there was a narrative of like, well, he's drawing more attention to his new stuff that he owns

• 10:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  and playing the old stuff from YouTube. I don't think that's true either. I mean, that's, you can think, I get it. It's his new stuff. He's leading with his new stuff that he's proud of. He's evolved.

• 10:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, so basically, he sold his catalog, all these for $200 million. So it would make sense that there is a clause that says, we own this now. And if you play this, you owe us money.

• 10:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's not how it works.

• 10:21Rayna Greenberg?

  He but he got that's what the two what I'm saying is like people are like he went around the so you have to give them money. He got money. He got $200 million for these songs. So even if it was the case that he had to pay them money, that's what the money is for.

• 10:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  But that but that's just that's not how it works. Like when you're at concerts and you see artists covering other artists songs, you're allowed to do kind of whatever you want. It's why we're allowed to do whatever we want at our shows, but.

• 10:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Half of MGK's stuff are covers.

• 10:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Over covers. Yeah. So there's a performance license clause, whatever. So people thought they had a tape with that, whatever. And then at the end, by the way, after the YouTube segment, which is about 30 minutes and he did all these hits. And again, it's like he connected with his younger self and it felt really healing and he just felt happy the whole time. He looked great. He didn't look all disheveled. And then he brought all these special guests out at the end and he had Thames and Whizkid and did these other songs like. I loved it and it seemed like most of his real fans loved it too. And of course, we're in this age of just rage bait and people trying to spin a narrative and the only critique I saw from someone who I I trust just said it was lower energy. But that's who he is now. He was naked at the Grammys with acoustic like.

• 11:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally. And like I people were saying is lazy and there was no set design and he's like on this computer pulling up YouTube videos. He's not like Sabrina Carpenter. He's not gonna, I mean, that's a woman, but he's not gonna come out with dancers dressed up as dogs and giant set design. And that's fine for her. That's great. I love her. She's amazing. But like as an artist, I don't know. He has a catalog that could rival anybody alive. And so like, I really just want to see him play the music. I don't care if anything's on stage.

• 11:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's got the voice. I mean, Beyonce's Coachella performance was the greatest performance of all time. The most elaborate, the number of performers, the rehearsal time, the costumes, the choreo, the drummers, the themes, the unbelievable, that was unbelievable. But he's not that type of performer.

• 12:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Never has been.

• 12:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  And some people are like taking this whole men versus women, like Sabrina Carpenter could never. It's like, they're two different performers. And yes, she doesn't really have that luxury. She's new. You know who would have done this and could have done this and I would love to see it is Rihanna. She's not a dancer. I've seen her perform twice, one being the Super Bowl. She could do this and I would love it. Like, it's not a man has is able to be lazy. Justin Bieber has been in the industry almost 20 years. He does dance and he has an old, he used to do more set design, dancing costumes, dancers, choreo, all the things. He hasn't done that in a while. Like, I saw this TikTok that I loved and it's like in 2026. You're gonna get whatever version of Justin Bieber he wants to give you.

• 12:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it's kind of Rihanna coded. Like if Rihanna went up and did this exact thing, I would be like, people would go crazy for it the same way. I don't think this is like a men vs. women thing.

• 12:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that's a hot take and I agree. And I don't think he's ever been that type of performer. And I also don't care. He's a 20 year catalog. I love that music. Beauty and the Beast. Like I just, I listen to it all the time in the car. Baby, I just, I love it so much. And I don't care. I don't need a bunch of dancers behind him. He's not like, he's not like in sync. I don't care.

• 13:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly. And he looked happy and healthy.

• 13:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Hailey looked happy.

• 13:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hailey looked great.

• 13:23Rayna Greenberg?

  She was there. Did you see the videos of her at rehearsal with her son?

• 13:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 13:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, they always look like they hate each other. So it was nice to see them happy together. And their son was there. It's very cute.

• 13:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, I felt emotional. I loved it so much. And the real Bieber fans who I follow loved it too. So don't believe the haters and, and no notes on that. And we wanted to debunk this whole catalog narrative. Okay, what's next?

• 13:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Other drama at a Coachella. I mean, people were Instagram storing the lines for food versus other lines. They said everybody in, everybody in LA saw Ozempic. So there was no lines for food. I don't know if people happened to just catch that, but like a couple of TikToks I saw were like 6pm. The lines to like make sunglasses and trinket charms were like just stacked. None of the food lines existed.

• 14:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think Ozempic plays a part, but I think it's always been like this. I think it's always been LA people or, you know, influencer type people are, I don't think Coachella's ever been a food fest. That's for sure. You and I went, we couldn't eat fast enough and we were the only people eating when we went.

• 14:27Rayna Greenberg?

  That's so true.

• 14:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  We ate, there were like these giant burritos. They were like, whoa, ladies.

• 14:33Rayna Greenberg?

  They eat gluten?

• 14:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's crazy. And then this drama that I really got into when I went in a real TikTok hole is all these influencers speaking out that the brands canceled their Coachella trips days before the festival. So they were supposed to go with the brand that they had confirmed this and then the brand canceled. I did not see any that named the brand. And so I think some of these are true. I would like to think, I don't want to think everybody's lying, but then there's another side of the internet that's like, if you didn't name the brand, we don't believe you. And you're just doing this for likes and you were never invited. And I don't know, you know, I think a lot of people are lying on TikTok a lot. I think

• 15:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Just for attention.

• 15:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I think we'll talk about Alex Earl today, but she posted this whole long date story and that people were like, that's, this is promo. This didn't happen. This is not a date you went on. And I, I don't know. I just feel like there was some weird smoking guns. I don't want to call people a liar, but there, I think there's a lot of this and it's a bummer. It's a bummer that people are like, I want to get on and lie. And we don't know for sure, but like, if you don't name the brand, maybe you're like, I don't want to drag a brand because I want more brand opportunities. They could be thinking like, I don't want to name the brand because I don't want to be blacklisted by other brands or even this brand for the next time.

• 15:48Rayna Greenberg?

  If a brand lures you into the desert under false pretenses, I would name them.

• 15:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I think we should be hearing about brands, like a brand like Tarte, like if they canceled a brand trip, I think we'd hear about it.

• 15:58Rayna Greenberg?

  A hundred percent.

• 15:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Even if someone didn't make a public TikTok, Page Six would reach out and be like, name the brand. And we were to run a story about it. Like brands canceling Coachella brand trips is a story.

• 16:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, Revolve got like so much blowback even for just like over inviting people to those parties. Like people love to pounce on a brand and like, I love Revolve and I would love to be at those parties.

• 16:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 16:20Rayna Greenberg?

  But I think people love to pounce on a brand. So I don't know, name them.

• 16:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. One more thing, Raina, I wanted to tell you, did you see any of the content about people hiring stylists for Coachella?

• 16:30Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 16:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  So a lot of people like hire stylists, which is fine.

• 16:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I get it.

• 16:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  For this, for some people, especially if you're an influencer, it's your job.

• 16:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I get it.

• 16:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Some were really bad. Like this one girl pulled the box of stuff the stylist had pulled. It was so hilarious. It was like basketball shorts with a bikini top, like real basketball.

• 16:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, but like who's, everything is style now. It's just like

• 16:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  It looked so, it was bad.

• 16:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Every day I see new stuff that like these stylists are like, in, in fashion for spring, balloon pants are back. Big chunky necklaces with beads are back, like

• 17:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stella and Dot.

• 17:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 17:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Statement necklaces. But this was bad. And then I just saw some other TikToks that just made me laugh that they were like, Girls, you'll need a stylist. It's not that deep, but I understand if this is like your Super Bowl.

• 17:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I, I get it.

• 17:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just like funny, like I, someone was just like, if you need someone to style you for this desert festival, maybe you shouldn't be there.

• 17:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I think we've gone a little too far.

• 17:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you know what? If this is, again, like people are making content and this is their livelihood, hire a stylist. I just thought it was very funny, stylist for Coachella.

• 17:34Rayna Greenberg?

  And then finally, people got pretty upset at Kim Kardashian and Kanye for bringing Northwest to Coachella. She's 12 years old, right? People got very upset that they brought a 12 years old to Coachella.

• 17:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  How is North 12? That's a 16 year old.

• 17:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Hundred percent. Also, I just, okay, here's my take. I, I don't think it's that crazy to bring Northwest to Coachella because, uh, yeah, first of all, her dad is Kanye, like she should have some joy in life, like poor girl. But like, second of all, she has been exposed to more by 12 years old than the average person at 40. So I don't think it's that crazy if her and her mom and her mom's boyfriend do a VIP experience at a concert. It's not that crazy to me.

• 18:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I think people are looking at this through their own lens. Like she went with Kim, she went with her mom and her mom's boyfriend that she said, I wrote that down too. She, her dad, who's, who knows where he is. And she probably, she had security and chaperones. Like, I'm sure she was with Kim and Louis at some point, and then some point she was on her own. But did you see this? So Young Thug during his performance, North is front row with Tiana Taylor, of course she is. And Young Thug goes, what's up North? How you doing? Where are your parents?

• 18:47Rayna Greenberg?

  She's just, she's more grown than your average. She's more grown than me.

• 18:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't believe North is 12. But the real issue I have is North is watching Love Island. So.

• 18:58Rayna Greenberg?

  She was upset that she knew who Hoda was and, um, what's his name?

• 19:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, Alondria and Nick.

• 19:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 19:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  She runs up to him, has, this has gone viral. Like she has this complete fanfare moment. She can't keep it together and they're really sweet to her. That's not for kids, right? Like.

• 19:11Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know.

• 19:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  So North is watching Love Island at 10. She's a longtime fan. Clearly.

• 19:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. I just, I feel like North is more grown than your average person. Like also like Kim has so many kids. Who can keep up with what they're watching?

• 19:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so I don't watch Love Island. This is not me being pick me. I just don't. I respect it and I want to get involved. But you guys tell Love Island watchers, please tell us if a 10, 11, 12 year old should be watching this. I mean, I don't, I'm not trying to be a prude.

• 19:44Rayna Greenberg?

  I watched 90210 when I was that age, like on volume level two in the basement. Like I wanted it. What, how is Kim gonna control all these kids? It's like a hundred of them.

• 19:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just don't know how, like, North is 16. You cannot tell me she's 12.

• 19:57Rayna Greenberg?

  North is older than I am.

• 19:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's like, also of this, is she big for her age? And I say that as someone tall. Yeah, like.

• 20:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I don't, it's hard to say because she's so much taller than Kim, but Kim's 5'2".

• 20:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  But she's like the same height as Alondria. Like as someone who was tall, my nephew is like, I always looked older. I mean, Jay's three, he looks six, like.

• 20:16Rayna Greenberg?

  How tall is Alondria though? Like Kim's 5'2".

• 20:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm just saying, North is, she's gotta be tall for her age, which how the fuck?

• 20:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, if she's even eight inches bigger than Kim, she's just like a giant.

• 20:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  North has to be bigger than Louis.

• 20:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, definitely. Louis is Kim, her mom's boyfriend?

• 20:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  This 12 year old North taller than her mom's Formula One racer, famous athlete boyfriend. North is towering over.

• 20:42Rayna Greenberg?

  How tall is he?

• 20:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  5'9".

• 20:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I thought I had a crush on this guy the other day. He's this comedian. I'm watching all of these clips of him. He's so hot. He has a beard. He's bald. I'm like, this is so sexy. He's recently divorced. I'm like, this is my guy. He's hysterical. I'm like flipping through. I said it to our friend Brittany. I was like, what's, I saw she followed him. I was like, what's the deal with this guy? And she's like, married. I was like, not married, divorced. All right, that's my guy. And then I saw a, I thought he was joking about being like 5'4".

• 21:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  And he really is.

• 21:09Rayna Greenberg?

  And then I saw a photo of him with like Mike Cannon and somebody else. And I was like, oh, he is actually 5'4". It's a real jump scare. When you see people alone on stage, it's impossible to know how tall comedians are. You could tell?

• 21:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think, I could think I could tell because of just the way the stage is, and I would look at the length of their legs. I know where the sign is at the DC Improv. Like, I know, I know how much taller I am than the Comedy Works sign in Denver. Like, I'm like, oh, they're below the sign. Oh, he is below the improv sign.

• 21:39Rayna Greenberg?

  That's hysterical, below the improv sign.

• 21:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also, 5'9", I want to backtrack. I don't think of 5'9" as a short king, Lewis Hamilton. I'm assuming he's-

• 21:48Rayna Greenberg?

  5'7" and below.

• 21:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, 5'8".

• 21:50Rayna Greenberg?

  5'9" is fine.

• 21:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, 5'8" is on the cusp, but you know, he probably is a little shorter than the internet says.

• 21:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Definitely.

• 21:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I feel like really rich, famous people get to pay off Google.

• 21:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 21:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so that's your Coachella report, and then Weekend 2, and we'll see what happens.

• 22:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 22:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is Justin Bieber gonna do the same thing? Because it was such a surprise, and like, oh my god, this is so dope, but is he gonna, is he, I wonder if he's gonna do the exact same YouTube thing, because in that moment, he seemed like he was having so much joy, he was making jokes, like, it felt spontaneous, even though of course it was planned. But I just, Weekend 2, it's not gonna hit the same.

• 22:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, but like, I hate to compare it to Beyonce, because there was so much choreo and so many dancers, and to see that in person, live, I'd go anytime, and I've watched that set 15 times.

• 22:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, but she wore two colors, right? Purple and yellow?

• 22:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, she wore different, um, I don't, I guess.

• 22:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, or, I think he has more songs to, to pull from.

• 22:41Rayna Greenberg?

  He already pulled my face.

• 22:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  If I were to guess, I think he'll do the YouTube thing, but maybe some different songs in that chunk.

• 22:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 22:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, just gonna take a quick break, and then we'll get back into it.

• 22:51Rayna Greenberg?

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• 23:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jacket.

• 23:03Rayna Greenberg?

  It's my, the crop, we tell you guys about the-

• 23:05Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 23:06Rayna Greenberg?

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• 23:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Even Shoshak knows it.

• 23:08Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what I love about these sets, too, is they come in so many colors, and you and I have like, a ton of sets. It's my like, favorite airport outfit, if I have a road trip, you just look really polished, and it's really functional. And I've actually, long before we were partners with them, have had these sets for years, and so have you, and they've held up really well over the years.

• 23:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, the sports bras are great.

• 23:27Rayna Greenberg?

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• 23:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  This would be a fun bachelorette, everybody in different color.

• 23:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I love that idea.

• 23:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like even a gift or like everybody, I don't know. I mean, just you do you. But I think this would be so cute. Or a girl's trip or something and everyone in a different color of the Hot Shot crossover set.

• 24:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Love it.

• 24:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  That'd be so fun.

• 24:07Rayna Greenberg?

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• 24:12Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 24:57Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 25:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I cannot believe how beautiful that packaging is.

• 25:28Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 25:30Rayna Greenberg?

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• 25:31Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 26:08Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, season three of Euphoria has dropped six years later.

• 26:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's so crazy.

• 26:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm a huge fan of the show, like I think there's so many.

• 26:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  New fan.

• 26:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I am a new, I watched both seasons this year and I love it so much. There's so many like big cultural moments and I think some of the best characters that we've just iconic characters and some of the biggest actors in the world. And I mean, the premiere happened and then obviously the show was pretty panned saying like, what is this essentially? And I was really looking forward to it and I went into it with an open mind being like, clearly it is shot very differently than, this is a show about high school kids. Now it looks like a Quentin Tarantino Western.

• 26:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent does.

• 26:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Labyrinth did all the music for the first two seasons and did not sign on for the third season, so the music is totally different. But I was like, okay, I can keep an open mind about this. I can still enjoy this, even though it's not a show about high school kids anymore.

• 26:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which is my thing.

• 26:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Which really is your thing, but there's, it's, there's so much like fucked up disasters in the first two seasons. So I'm like, I can keep an open mind. I was, Maddie is one of my favorite characters. I love the character of Jules. I was just excited to like see what the characters were up to. I think like a lot of people, I just was like let down. I just was like, what am I watching? I mean, 80% of the first episode is just Zendaya, who's phenomenal, but it's just her being a drug runner, a drug mule in what looks like a Texas Western. And it's totally disjointed from the rest of the cast who works in Hollywood.

• 27:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 27:33Rayna Greenberg?

  And we got three minutes with the rest of the cast, which like I want, Jules isn't even in this episode, Maddie, we got two minutes with her. I just wanted like more of the rest of the cast, because I get excited to see these other characters. And with Cassie and Nate, like I don't, the dynamic with these two is that he is the most toxic, violent, rage fueled boyfriend and she's really submissive and subservient to him. And it's like they gave him lobotomy. She's like pulling rank on him about the flowers at the wedding. And she's like, you get this for me or I'm going to become an OnlyFans model. And he's kind of just like. Whatever you gotta do. I mean, this is an abusive, violent character.

• 28:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Could he have grown in six years? Is that kind of what their, like, the dynamic has shifted?

• 28:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe they are gonna allude to that, but like, this is the most insane character shift I've seen from somebody who like, was choking out his girlfriend, holding a gun to her head.

• 28:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, he's just a high schooler. It's boys being boys.

• 28:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Just being silly?

• 28:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, he was just, this is, you know, boys, you know, they, what they do in high school.

• 28:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 28:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  To just choke people out.

• 28:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Five years later, they're a totally different person. I also just, I mean, of course, he drives a Cybertruck, which I thought was really on brand.

• 28:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was that in the episode?

• 28:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, he pulls up, well, because Lexi says that she, that Cassie is in her like, MAGA bubble, basically. So he pulls up on a Cybertruck, which made me laugh.

• 28:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I love that.

• 28:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't understand why Cassie and Nate live in like, a house that looks like it's from like, the movie Casino in 1970s. Like, what is this house? I don't know. I will watch it. I love the show and it feels nostalgic to me, but like, this is not the same show and I'm, I'm confused about the decision to do this. If you want to make a new show, make a new show.

• 29:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally. Yeah. I don't know. Was it like a, where do we go from here? So I don't like this show.

• 29:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's, it's not for me. I mean, I can respect the art. I gave it a try. I've probably watched three or four episodes. I tried, I started it, which I think is a fair shot. I watched this season three premiere, because you told me to. And Shashank actually has watched the first two seasons, and so he wanted to anyway. So we watched it last night. I mean, this show just makes me feel bad. And I don't watch only light, happy, high schoolers, like, or TV in general. I like, I like darker stuff. I like dramas. This gives me anxiety and I don't enjoy it. I don't really enjoy the characters. I just don't enjoy the show. It's just not for me. So that's, that's just my opinion. To your point, I think maybe they're gonna do more characters in the next episodes. I guess in, in, in the show's defense, they were like, this is Rue's

• 30:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  episode. And then the next time you'll see more characters, like, maybe that's, it's less of a get everyone equal time, which is not necessarily a format I like. Like, I remember this episode of The Bear, and it was just like Sydney, and she was at like, her cousin's house, and it was like, total, a total departure. And I, from what you usually see. And I know what they were trying to do, and I respect it, but it's not for me when they do that. So I'm wondering if they were like, this is, what's the, I don't know.

• 30:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's called a capsule episode because they did it on Girls with Marnie with A Panic in Central Park.

• 30:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, that's the best episode of TV that's ever been.

• 30:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, I watched it the other night.

• 30:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was Marnie's episode of Girls. So actually, that's so true because that episode of Girls is so legendary and I feel like other shows are like, we can do it and it doesn't always work. But I'm not even saying that's what Euphoria is trying to do. I'm just saying like,

• 30:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think it is.

• 30:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  We've only seen one episodes. We don't know what they're doing and I won't continue to watch. This drug balloon scene is one of the most horrific things I've ever seen and we were just saying that it feels gratuitously disgusting. And then like spoiler alert ahead, the one girl shits herself and a dog comes up and fucking licks it. I almost threw up. What are we doing? Like the gagging, the spit, the shit. I was disgusted and I felt like that a lot of times with the show. It just feels gratuitously repulsing.

• 31:20Rayna Greenberg?

  People were saying that about, I totally agree. I told you to fast forward through it. Like Sidney Sweeney being an OnlyFans model. People are like, we've seen, this is so obvious. We've seen this before.

• 31:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Anything to just get Sidney Sweeney naked.

• 31:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't, I can't, I can't stand her. This is her best role. This is her best acting and I can't, I can't, I can't stand her. I can't stand her on the screen. I just, I don't like this show and I am not shading it. People love it. I'm in the minority.

• 31:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she actually was pretty phenomenal in the first two seasons. The third season, now they've given her like a set of balls and a personality. I don't, I don't want it.

• 31:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I mean, I know the bathroom scene and it was iconic and she, you know, in her career, I will give her that one scene.

• 32:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  She did great one time.

• 32:06Rayna Greenberg?

  She's great. She's great. This is season two of Euphoria.

• 32:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  She hugged this character once.

• 32:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  So anyway, I guess we'll just see how it plays out.

• 32:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I'm not going to cover it every week, but I appreciate you watching it.

• 32:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then Labyrinth, I love and I would listen to the Euphoria soundtrack. I don't even know if it was, whatever it was. I discovered Labyrinth through Euphoria and I became obsessed and then he has come out and said he's not involved. Like you mentioned, but it was like, there was some controversy there.

• 32:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 32:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's like,

• 32:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're on the outs, him and the show. So, anyway, they played a snippet of the one song, but we're not going to be hearing anymore.

• 32:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 32:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm not going to be hearing any more of anything because I'm not going to continue to watch.

• 32:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll keep boots on the ground for you guys.

• 32:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  You want to just shock and watch it?

• 32:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so let's just talk about white girls acting out. So Blake Lee Thorne posted something like, "White girls are back." White girls are doing what they should.

• 33:03Rayna Greenberg?

  They're back in their lane?

• 33:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're in the, yes, they're back in their lane, fighting, infighting, and giving us the drama. Like, we're just being over-served with tea. I can't believe it. We're so blessed.

• 33:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yesterday, I was like, Amanda Batula for the third week in a row. And then I'm like, I'm amped for Amanda Batula.

• 33:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  You dressed like Amanda Batula today.

• 33:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I am. I went to the, I actually, like, I put on moccasins this morning to go get a coffee extra Amanda Batula.

• 33:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Amanda and West, we cannot recap the whole thing because if you know this and you care about it, this is for you. If you haven't been keeping up, we are fine if you skip ahead, but we're not going to give the whole backstory, but we are going to give the latest update, which is Amanda is out and about and she is posting again for her mental health.

• 33:47Rayna Greenberg?

  So she had not posted a statement since her joint statement with West that they are in a situation ship. And West has been out in these streets. He's been posting on Instagram. I mean, so she posted an Instagram story. It's a photo of her very cute dog, obviously. Like, she's just pandering for my attention.

• 34:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Last week, right, yes.

• 34:05Rayna Greenberg?

  And then she posts something, "Hi, guys. I'll keep this short and sweet. This is last Friday."

• 34:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yep, last Friday.

• 34:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Blah, blah. "I wanted to come back on and say I'm truly sorry to everyone I've disappointed. Heard." She says she's reached out to people individually. We're assuming, Sierra, but who's to say? "For the sake of my mental health, I'm going to try to start living life with some sense of normalcy. If you see me out or posting online, please know this is still weighing very heavily on me. I'm not ignoring what's happened or what's unfolded." And she says she'll be at the reunion. She posted this so she could go to the blind tiger with West.

• 34:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm gonna turn it over to our resident New Yorker to tell you guys about the Blind Tiger if you don't know.

• 34:38Rayna Greenberg?

  So, first of all, I will say, Wes has been like running around posting and didn't, a man did not feel the need to be like, just so y'all know, I'll be out in these streets. And I do think if a woman did it, people would crucify them. So I do understand the need to do this.

• 34:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, I understand why she did this. Like, she's like, you're gonna see me out and I'm gonna live my life now. And this is still weighing on me and we'll get in towards the reunion. I, the sentiment made sense, but it was so funny to be like, I'm gonna start Instagram storying again and going out and going out to the, I don't know, most crowded the mecca of their fans, I guess.

• 35:18Rayna Greenberg?

  If somebody said to me, what's the most conspicuous place you could go, where people in their late twenties and mid thirties go, that watch this show, that have phones and are Instagramming, TikToking, I would say the, first of all, the West Village in general, but the Blind Tiger specifically. And then they went to Emmett's on Grove for dinner. If I were to pick a place that is packed to the walls.

• 35:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can't even hear from across the table.

• 35:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Can't move. I mean, you are begging people. It is those two places. Emmett's on Grove, I went on a Tuesday night a couple of weeks ago. You could not move your body. It was so many people in their early thirties that are of course gonna Instagram story you. I was thinking like, how have they not been Instagram story? Oh, they're not, I thought they're just not going out. But she's like, I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna go out as loudly as possible.

• 36:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, like, they really made a choice. And then, I guess at the Blind Tiger, she had a scarf over her head, like, yes, I am Mrs. Iglesias. Like, literally, she is, I was like, immediately, like, she is Kristen Wiig in First Class. No, like, a literal, what are you doing? Stop. Just own it or not. Like, she has the most pick-me syndrome I've ever seen. It is leading every decision she is making. She is blinded by it. Like, she is queen of the pick-me's. I said this before. Like, I watched this episode last week, last week at this point, so it would be dated, where she told Ben's girlfriend or the girl he's dating, like, well, everybody says he's in love with me. That's a

• 36:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Crazy thing to do. It's crazy work. I was with Andrew and Brenna and which is friends of ours who are married and we I told we were talking about it and I was like, that's like when we first met Brenna, that I would have said, well, you know, everybody says Andrew's in love with me. Can you even picture it? It's so diabolical. Like now that I've realized this, that she is completely chronically and debilitatingly pick me. It makes so much sense why the moves she's making. When she posted that thing, the original statement, she wasn't thinking about the blowback. She was thinking, I've been chosen. She was thinking, I've been chosen by the House heartthrob now at this stage, who and I'm being chosen over the most beautiful woman that's ever

• 37:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  been on the show. Like she stayed with Kyle because he was like the head honcho and she was chosen by him. Like she, everything she's doing, once I've seen it through this lens, which of course we knew she was a pick me, but now when I'm realizing just how deep it runs, it makes all her choices make sense to me.

• 37:43Rayna Greenberg?

  A hundred percent. And it's very interesting, that scene with Ben, because first of all, she didn't even say, if you guys have, they didn't put the footage of her saying this. So there's actually no proof on the show that she really said this. And in the interview, if you really didn't say it, you would say, if there is proof of this, then why don't you air it?

• 38:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  She didn't deny it.

• 38:00Rayna Greenberg?

  She did it. She doubled down on it. She said, he kept trying to sleep with me at this wedding and everybody was talking about it. I think you see this a lot with women that are with men that are embarrassing them in public and you know, she, they don't feel empowered to stand up to that person. So what they will do is is embarrass their partner by publicly going after other men and fishing for attention from other men. I think you see this a lot. And I understand like the root of it, which is just like, I'm being embarrassed and I feel terrible. So like, I'm going to embarrass him in a different way. I'm not excusing the behavior, but and I'm not saying she did do this, but there's been like clips of people saying like, you know, she had a, she was touching Craig a little bit weirdly and there's the whole season, she's all over west. If you like, they're laying around the couch together and feeding each other. And I think

• 38:42Rayna Greenberg?

  you do like, see this. It is just so pick me. And like, when I really think about the fact that these are real people, we know Ciara, she's wonderful. She's humble. She's kind. I can't say enough nice things about her. When I really run the tape and I'm like, this was your really good friend. If this was my, one of my ex-best friends and she's running around with my ex, to see this on Page Six every day, People Magazine every day, Cosmo every day, this is my entire feed is photos of Amanda and West. Like, you cannot escape this. Like, this is so unkind. I do understand her being like, you know what? I didn't murder anybody and I'm divorced and I'll date whoever I want. But like, this is so mean to do to your friend. You didn't need to go to the Blind Tire. You didn't need to go to Emmett's Ungrove. These are the most popular places in New York City.

• 39:27Rayna Greenberg?

  You didn't actually need to do this.

• 39:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, I know.

• 39:29Rayna Greenberg?

  It's mean.

• 39:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and West too. Like, even the way he looks now in the, like, those viper shades. Like, I'm like, ugh. Like, I used to really ride for him and I'm just so out on this. And like, Ciara is so above this and I don't know what's going on through her head, but it's like, oh my gosh, like, these people are really looked down upon and she is like this queen. And like, again, it's just like, I always feel a little weird, like, dragging Amanda every week and she can come out of this and it's rooted in insecurity and a bunch of other things. Like, you can be cured from your pick-me syndrome. But like, so she can, like, reflect and she could be a different person in 10 years. But right now, it's like, she is just really leading with that. It's like, so obvious.

• 40:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I agree with you. I saw this Instagram story and I actually was like, I get it, okay. She didn't cheat on her husband, she didn't kill anybody. She's like, you guys, I'm gonna leave the house and I should be allowed to leave the house. And I was like, alright, good for you, girl. But then she picked the loudest places you'd go to. And I was like, man, this sucks.

• 40:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who is she? Is she talking to anyone? Or is she just like, can't tell me nothing? Like, are she consulting anyone? Like, is there a publicist involved? Like, and you know what, right? I wondered if you had this thought. At first, when I saw them step out together, I was like, oh my God, they're really out together. And then the other part of me was like, they better be. They better be. I mean, Ciara, we missed this moment for the snack. She interviewed Sydney Sweeney on the red carpet and said, like, if your friend stole your ex or whatever, they better get married. You know, like, I think we're all just like, they better be together after all of this.

• 40:57Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that's what everybody was saying. So I, I hope that they are.

• 40:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Alright, so the next white girl drama is Alex Cooper versus Alex Earl, which, like, we don't, we should probably check. Like, as we record, we still only have, like, The first half of this story.

• 41:12Rayna Greenberg?

  So whatever, whatever, whatever happened and whatever Dave Portnoy said is happening.

• 41:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Alex Cooper of Call Her Daddy and the Unwell Podcast Network, which Alex Earl used to be a part of, and they were friends, they appeared to be really good friends and working together. And then they parted, they parted ways and people were speculating, did something happen? Or was this amicable and it was just a contract renewal thing? And then in the recent weeks, months, Alex Earl has been shading Alex Cooper. She reposted a TikTok that was pretty intense that this woman just went off and was calling Alex Cooper a grim reaper and an ambulance chaser because she gets these people to come on her show right after their biggest heartbreaks, which I don't really agree with that. I think these people want to come on the show as their exclusive to share their story.

• 41:57Rayna Greenberg?

  I totally, I mean, I think Ariana Maddox, I think Rachel Kirkconnell, I think Jessie, her name is Draper now. I think all those people reach out to the show and that's their exclusive. And I think they're like, I want to get my side of the story out. Alex Cooper is an interviewer, that's her job.

• 42:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 42:12Rayna Greenberg?

  This is media and press.

• 42:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So anyway, I didn't really agree with that take.

• 42:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't either.

• 42:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Alex Earl reposted it. And then she's been in some comments saying like, there's tea and I'll have the tea. And so Alex Cooper went on TikTok and two minutes long, I think, was just like, directly addressed Alex Earl, hey, girl, if you got something to say, say it. You don't have an NDA, you can say whatever happened instead of being vague to make people think something worse happened than it did.

• 42:45Rayna Greenberg?

  So basically leaves it at like, your move, girl. And I watched this and I was like, you know what? Good for her, good for her for being like, you want to leave little droplets around social media? Like, then say it with your whole chest. I didn't put you under an NDA, you tell people what happened. Cause Alex Earl's podcast was under the Unwell Network for one year and she just didn't renew the contract. And I'm not sure what happened there, obviously, but.

• 43:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think she wants to be a podcast.

• 43:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I don't, I think she's, I think she was too big to be at that network to begin with.

• 43:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and that's not what she wants to do.

• 43:13Rayna Greenberg?

  She was in like two Superbowl commercials that year. I mean, she's just too big, but I think that Alex Cooper, I was like, good for her. And then I went to the comments and people were like, this isn't it. People really did not like it. People felt like you also didn't say anything. You're perpetuating this like. Will they, won't they speak out about this? Alex, it was two minutes long, it's long to be like, to also give us no information? And people, people just didn't, people really did not like it.

• 43:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. The message to me was like, kinda batty, like a kinda like, say what you gotta say, girl. Stop being passive aggressive. You don't have an NDA. Say it with your whole chest. And then it should have just been left at that. She continued to go on and on and also be cryptic and also not tell. So then I think she put it out there like, I'm bigger and better than this. But then she seemed to fall right into it. And I was surprised by the format. She went on and did a full TikTok. She could have just posted anywhere on the internet in a comment, something just super casual and it would have taken off the same way. Like if I, she can do whatever she wants. And I think she has a great business sense and I like to think she knows what she's doing.

• 44:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I would have done this in a comment somewhere, a little more chill, cool vibes. Let people pick it up. Like I would have been like, Alex can say whatever she wants. She doesn't have an NDA. Like leave it at that. She did a whole two minute thing. Made you want more information and then didn't give it to you. So, and then Alex Earl commented on that TikTok. Okay, on it. Three exclamation points. On it.

• 44:47Rayna Greenberg?

  24 hours later, like, give it to us.

• 44:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 44:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I would like to have this. You know what's really fascinating about, okay. I don't know, I go back and forth. I, I vacillate, vacillate?

• 44:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Vacillate.

• 44:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Who's to say?

• 44:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  You could say either.

• 45:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Between like, what did I want from her? Cause like, we ask to know everything about celebrities and just like feed on it. But then she defends herself and we also ask celebrities to also just take all the shit, not defend themselves. But I, I look at this and I'm like, this is beneath her to have made a two minute TikTok saying nothing. But then I'm like, I don't know, like what would I do in this position? Like Alex Earl is a force to be reckoned with also. She's her own universe that people cycle around and they're both so huge. So like, I don't blame her for sticking up for herself, but like, It's just, it's a lot. And the funny thing is they have the same publicist. So I don't know if you know this.

• 45:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kate Bailey.

• 45:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, Kate Bailey.

• 45:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is still both of their publicist?

• 45:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Is, has been with them for, she was at a line. I don't know if she's gone off on her own, but she is Mario Carbone's girlfriend and she's just like a really famous publicist. She is the GOAT. And it's just funny that these girls have the same publicist. Like, and people are like, how could Alex, how could these girls' publicists allow them to do this? I don't think, your publicist doesn't live with you. They don't have to sign off on everything. I don't think Alex Cooper wakes up in the morning and texts Kate, like, am I allowed to post this?

• 46:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Our publicist's just off work right now. Like, where's Amanda Petula's publicist? Where's Alex? Like, where's Kate Bailey? Like, where was, are they, are they on hiatus right now? Like, this is crazy. And like, again, to your point, it's like, I want to always try to be like somewhat gentle, because this is entertaining us.

• 46:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, these girls, all these girls are feeding on.

• 46:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. You know, and we're allowed to have thoughts on it. And that's what the show is about, is our takes on these things. But like, thank you to them. You know, again, like, I, I'm speaking on what Alex Cooper did is like, I just felt like it was a little unexpected. But this is entertaining us. We're talking about it. It's content. Like, how boring would it be if people didn't do shit like this?

• 46:44Rayna Greenberg?

  It's also just like, it's like, some people are like, you're putting your energy into this. Yeah, I am. Because, I mean, I can't give all my energy to MAGA right now and to Trump and Jesus. I mean, I need like a break from this sometimes. And these girls infighting, Alex versus Alex, they look exactly the same.

• 46:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I tell you? Yes, they look alike, whatever. But I'm so sick of the comment, I thought this was the same person. I'm so tired of it. The first time I saw it, it was funny. The hundred millionth time I've saw it, it's not funny anymore. You, you know they're not. Like, I feel like a couple months back, like when the breakup happened, that was a funny comment. That was a funny take. Like, I thought these were the same person. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Now I'm just like, oh my, no, you, you know better now. If you're following these accounts and you're in these comments, you know they're not. But yeah, I'm curious what Alex Earl's gonna do. Okay, on it. What is the, um, oh, I'm right on top of that, Rose. From Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead. Such a deep cut. Because I was like, I recognized that. And I had to look it up. I watched Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead.

• 47:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Every day. I would, we would rent it over and over and over. I'm right on top of that, Rose. Like, that's the energy. Okay, I'm on it.

• 47:49Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, I also, I'm surprised by the behavior by Alex Earl because, I mean, listen, I don't know her personally, obviously, but this also feels beneath her to be just like picking on Alex Cooper on the internet. Like, she does seem like somebody who like keeps it pretty light. She has all these girlfriends. She's always like taking her friends that she grew up with in New Jersey on these trips and like on yachts and private planes. And I don't know, she doesn't seem like somebody to me that would be like dragging another woman. Like, I am really curious like what happened here because it seems not like her.

• 48:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  That Grim Reaper TikTok, to repost that is a real statement. That's a, that is really like a complete takedown of Alex Cooper's show and brand. To call her an ambulance chaser and a Grim Reaper.

• 48:36Rayna Greenberg?

  And nobody made her do it. It's not like she was being interviewed on the red carpet and somebody was like, what do you think about this? She woke up and was like, I will repost this.

• 48:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  To be on my, in my, on my feed. Okay, well, we, this is a developing story and I'm just hate that like by the time this airs, like she will have done something.

• 48:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Whatever she says, I think we, I think that this still stands.

• 48:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so let's just take another quick break and then we'll get back into it. You guys, I am so excited to talk about Blissie. Okay, so silk pillowcases have changed my life. They have changed my hair. I have told you guys that I've been doing some things that's really helped my hair. And I've been getting so many compliments in New York. People are just like, your hair, your hair, especially because it looks better there because of the water. But just like, it has really, really changed. And this is one of the main things I did at the top of the year. And I'm not gatekeeping on the other stuff. I promise I'll, I'll do a series one of these days. Okay, so I was noticing so much breakage and I was like, I think this is happening in my sleep. I turn around a lot and your, your hair is rubbing up against your, whatever your pillowcase is made of. And especially if your hair is dry, which mine is, and we live in a dry climate.

• 49:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so I just would always thought of silk pillowcases and Blissie is the number one brand. And also this helps with your skin too. So if you have Acne, or even those fine lines and wrinkles and sleep creases you get on your face when you wake up. So it helps with all that stuff. So you will have better hair in days. I'm telling you guys, it reduces the frizz, the breakage, it preserves your styles, your color. It's better than satin. So silk is natural cooling and gentler on skin and hair. It is the highest quality silk. So you need 100% pure mulberry silk. That's what this is. And fully machine washable. There are over 100 colors, over 3 million sold, featured in Vogue, Oprah, Daily, Good Morning America, 13 times award-winning. Amazing gift. I bring them on the road with

• 50:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  me. I left one at the Standard. I've since emailed them and be like, because I'm just like, they probably threw it in with the wash. But I brought it to stay my whole trip to Delaware, New York, and it has a, it's easy to slip on another pillowcase. I just, I bring this to travel. It has changed my life. They have sleep masks, bonnets, and also crease preventing scrunchies as well. So the bonnet's not for me. I tried it, but I just need to be, my hair, my head needs to be free. And so the pillowcase is like what works best for me. But a lot of people do bonnets and that works even, can work even better for you. Whatever you guys find, whatever works best for you. And Raina loves a sleep mask, of course, and the silk feels really nice on your face.

• 50:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I have sleep masks. I put one in my guest room, too, for like my guests. I'm like, when you say like this silk sleep mask, I sleep with a sleep mask every night. And it feels so nice on my skin.

• 51:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  But this is one of the number one things I felt has changed my hair. You guys, I cannot recommend it enough. So because you guys are Girls Got It listeners, Blissie is offering 60 nights risk-free plus an additional 30% off when you shop at blissy.com/gge. That's B-L-I-S-S-Y.com/gge. And use code GGE to get an additional 30% off. Your skin and hair will thank you. blissy.com/gge, code GGE.

• 51:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, and I'm telling you guys about Spark, which is a great time for me to tell you because I am sick right now and I wasn't taking Spark. So Spark Energy and Focus is your go-to pre-workout ritual. So when you need like a reliable energy source to get through maybe a workout class, or even just like an afternoon pick-me-up. And Ashley and I travel so much and it's just, it's so exhausting and draining. And we have to be on for so much stuff, like recordings and press and shows. And I just need something like pick-me-up. So that's kind of where Spark comes in. And it's a powdered drink mix. With zero grams of sugar and 120 milligrams of caffeine. There's amino acids to balance the caffeine without jitters and crashes and includes coline to support performance. It helps support energy metabolism on active days.

• 52:16Rayna Greenberg?

  There's B vitamins, there's B6 and B12. And this is just so easy to take. So there's a lot of different flavors. They have it in a canister or a stick pack if you want to travel with it. And I mean, there's so many different flavors. So there's Mandarin orange, there's juicy peach, strawberry. I like the limeade, cranberry peach orange. I mean, there's tons of different flavors to choose from again, in the canister or the stick pack. So really easy to just throw in your bag if you need one for the afternoon at work or you're traveling. So there's like bold, refreshing flavors. And we're going to give you guys a little offer. Spark Energy and Focus is offering 30% off and free shipping. Go to drinkspark.com and use the code GGE at checkout. That's code GGE at drinkspark.com.

• 52:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, headlines. Let's kick it off with Trump is crashing out yet again and the Christians are pissed.

• 53:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Finally, y'all are finally getting on board.

• 53:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  If him depicting himself as Jesus is, this is the thing that has finally upset you after the most vile, hateful, most un-Christian like stuff this man has done for the past decade, fuck all the way off.

• 53:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Even for the last 15 days. I mean, if, if sexual assault, child abuse allegations, assaulting children, if this didn't take you out, if tweeting, I'm going to wipe out an entire civilization. You guys are upset that the White House made a little picture of him in AI dressed as Jesus?

• 53:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  So he posted this picture of him as, as very clearly as Jesus. We'll, we'll talk about what he, what he said it was. I was not surprised in the least. I assumed he had done this already. Why is this news? Like, I was like, surely he's already done this. Like just a couple of weeks ago, someone was some minister or somebody was speaking at the White House comparing him to Jesus. All his cult followers think of him as Jesus. Like, I couldn't, this was not shocking to me at all.

• 54:06Rayna Greenberg?

  He said, I've done more for society than the Pope has. He depicted himself as a Jedi. Night as a fighter pilot.

• 54:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Superman.

• 54:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, how is this any different? I'm the art that the White House is putting out is insane.

• 54:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 54:19Rayna Greenberg?

  So why is this any different?

• 54:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  I couldn't believe people are mad about it. And I can't believe Trump backed down.

• 54:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I never seen it before.

• 54:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think he should have been like, y'all treat me like Jesus.

• 54:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I truly can do anything.

• 54:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't believe you're surprised by this. So the MAGA is calling him the Antichrist. He's possessed by demons. Yeah, welcome to reality. He is the Antichrist.

• 54:42Rayna Greenberg?

  How is this what got you here? Art, art, AI art. That's what got you guys here?

• 54:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  So they deleted it. But which doesn't happen a lot, but Trump said he was, he thought the picture was him as a doctor.

• 54:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files more times than Jesus is mentioned in the Bible. And this is what bothers you guys. The most famous pedophile in the world is Trump's best fucking friend.

• 55:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  So.

• 55:16Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys were like, I don't like this art.

• 55:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  When I saw the clip of him saying, I thought, this is me as a doctor. I hate myself. I laughed out loud. I couldn't believe he's like, because we support the Red Cross, I'm wearing a red thing. Rena, like Jay Jordan said a funny thing. He says, it's not fun, but it's funny. It's, we're in hell.

• 55:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Hysterical.

• 55:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Him saying, I'm a doctor. So have you seen the memes that have come out of this?

• 55:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, in, there is a nurse standing next to him in that photo. So there is plausible deniability, but there's also floating aliens around his head.

• 55:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we'll post these memes on YouTube. This is one of Jesus walking on water. Need to show you guys this painting of my doctor waterskiing. There's Jesus holding the staff. Just a picture of my doctor about to pull out my IUD. This picture of Jesus like in the sky, my doctor telling everyone he's out of network. Like this is a Jesus flipping the table at the Last Supper. My doctor, when insurance denies my claim. Like, this is one of the funniest things I've, again, it's just so horrific. But like him saying, oh no, I'm a doctor.

• 56:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stop, you guys, I was a doctor. That was me as a doctor.

• 56:30Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys are stupid, not me. You guys don't get it.

• 56:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then he's beefing with the Pope.

• 56:35Rayna Greenberg?

  You guys are ignorant.

• 56:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Him and the Pope are in a rap battle.

• 56:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I, how is this happening?

• 56:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's literally like Alex Cooper versus Alex Earl, Donald Trump versus the Pope. Like, that's what's happening in 2026.

• 56:45Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like Alex versus Alex, Sierra versus Amanda, Trump versus the Pope.

• 56:52Rayna Greenberg?

  He's like, I was clearly just healing Jeffrey Epstein.

• 56:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Pope Leo was like, I'm not scared of you.

• 56:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, literally, he's just like, I'm not scared of the President of the United States.

• 57:02Rayna Greenberg?

  You will survive the flight over here.

• 57:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Come get me.

• 57:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just don't send JD Vance towards that Pope, because he killed the other one, and we love Pope Leo.

• 57:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Trump is really, like, the dementia experts are weighing in. I mean, he really was crashing out that night. So I think from 9:00 PM till 4:00 AM that night, he was just on a tweeting storm, just a tear all night long, just incoherent ramblings. He's just up all night, and Trump is sober, mind you, he doesn't drink. So he did this sober.

• 57:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  So this is called sundowning.

• 57:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley, like, as somebody who doesn't go to sleep at night either.

• 57:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  The actual doctors and nurses, not the Jesus ones, but they're weighing in, in some of the comments, some of Aaron Parnas's comments. And someone was like, my dementia patients, when the sun goes down, they're climbing the walls. Like, they get crazier at night.

• 57:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Like werewolves?

• 57:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is, I looked it up, like, yes, in the nighttime, they act more erratic and they do these things. It's called sundowning. It's so obvious what's happening. They're climbing the walls.

• 58:13Rayna Greenberg?

  People voted for this. And it's like, they're like, this went too far. We didn't need, how did you not know? We told y'all. Everyone told you guys.

• 58:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it's just like, I hate like even joking. Dementia is horrifying.

• 58:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought you were gonna say I hate joking because like this is the president.

• 58:30Rayna Greenberg?

  You're like, think of the dementia.

• 58:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Grandma had dementia. Like we just, a family friend just died. Like it's, it's horrible, but him, it's just, it's so obvious what's happening. And they are calling for him to get a like mental fitness test and stuff, but huh, anyway.

• 58:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Can't believe this is where we're at every day.

• 58:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. And the space mission. So we, I was just upset. We didn't talk about this last week, but the Artemis two space mission is complete. This was historical in a lot of ways, uh, in terms of the length of time, what they were able to complete. But the first woman to travel around the moon was Christina Koch. You know, I get confused.

• 59:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Hearing that we even went to the moon is news to me. So you can say whatever you want.

• 59:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Christina Koch is the first woman.

• 59:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Ed Koch, the former mayor of New York.

• 59:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you know, sometimes they say cock, I get all fucked up. Okay. Christina Koch. No, I don't want to do her like that. So she achieved this milestone as a mission specialist on NASA's Artemis two. And a lot of the content I saw was the last time we went to the moon, women couldn't open a credit card without a, without a man. So it's just really a one big step for womankind. But a lot of great things happened. It was so heartwarming. I just saw a video of her returning home to her dog. It was also the first person of color to go to the moon and just these incredible things happened. It was just so feel good. And I just read this book, Taylor Jenkins Reid called Atmosphere. Did you read Atmosphere?

• 59:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I started it. You know, I haven't finished a single book this year, except for um, Strangers, my first book.

• 59:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Atmosphere is incredible and she worked with a lot of people at NASA to give all this accurate information. And you just have to read it. If you care about space at all, even if you don't, I learned a lot and I really love this book and it's a, it's a love story.

• 1:00:09Rayna Greenberg?

  One of our favorite authors ever of all time.

• 1:00:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I did wonder why they didn't get out.

• 1:00:17Rayna Greenberg?

  You think it's fake?

• 1:00:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I just, I didn't understand why they like spun the block and like didn't get out of the car.

• 1:00:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know anything about space.

• 1:00:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  So.

• 1:00:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know how space works. Maybe it's hard to get out of the car.

• 1:00:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  So that was never the point. So this was designed as a flight test, not a landing mission. Okay, so this was the first human deep space flight in 50 plus years. Record breaking distance. The crew surpassed the Apollo 13 record. Love that movie. For the most distance crewed space flight in history. Again, the, the first woman, um, and the first person of color, Victor Glover. And then this safe return, you saw them like landing in, there's the splashdown. Raina, you didn't see anything. Who do you follow?

• 1:00:59Rayna Greenberg?

  What day was it?

• 1:01:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  The splashdown was April 10th. It was just a couple of days ago. You were sick, I guess.

• 1:01:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Was that Thursday?

• 1:01:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I think so.

• 1:01:06Rayna Greenberg?

  That was the sickest day that I've had of my whole sickness.

• 1:01:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  This was like a week of content. Okay. Anyway, so Raina missed all that.

• 1:01:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm like a man when I get sick. It's just like the whole world crumbles down.

• 1:01:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. But yeah, so they were never going to land on the moon. This was a test flight and they're gonna go back. This was to ensure for safety for more complex landings. So I didn't realize how intense it was to like go to the moon until I did read Atmosphere. Like I didn't think it was easy, but this book really educated me in how intense it is. And so I had had a more appreciation of this Artemis 2 since reading that book.

• 1:01:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Because of Taylor Jenkins Reid. I mean, I don't know anything about space.

• 1:01:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, we gotta move on. Raina does not care.

• 1:01:47Rayna Greenberg?

  No, okay, you know.

• 1:01:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like you learned about space from Atmosphere the way I learned about like sailing yachts from Below Deck.

• 1:01:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  True.

• 1:01:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like I can drive, drive a boat now and you're like, I know about space.

• 1:02:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. And then lastly, we shouldn't end it on such a sad note, but the Love on the Spectrum couple, Abby and David, confirmed their breakup.

• 1:02:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, they were together for five years. That's a long time substantial relationship. And what she said that she was ready to get married and he wasn't.

• 1:02:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just get married. Like, I don't know. I wonder what was holding him back. Like, they obviously were in love. I mean, I don't want to speculate in their relationship, but I want to like respect them. But it was about that. Like, he wasn't ready to get married after all this time.

• 1:02:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Tied down yet.

• 1:02:31Rayna Greenberg?

  More pussy to get. He was like, I'm trying to be on that next season.

• 1:02:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I hate you.

• 1:02:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, guys. Raina is going rogue. I can feel it. So we're gonna end this.

• 1:02:43Rayna Greenberg?

  You know when you like take a kid out to dinner and like you're like, at the end of the meal, you're like, they have hit the wall in terms of their behavior. It's over.

• 1:02:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Guys, Raina is sundowning.

• 1:02:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm ready for a nap. You know where kids just go fucking berserk?

• 1:02:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina's about to start climbing the walls and going off on Truth Social. So we need to get out of here. Okay, GirlsGottaEat.com, tickets to our show on May 7th. We can't wait to see you guys there. I'm losing it too. I can't speak right, speak correctly. Anyway, uh, May 7th.

• 1:03:13Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't remember me, right?

• 1:03:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Girls Gotta Eat. Get those tickets. It's us and the Chippendales here in LA at the Palace Theater for the Netflix is a Joke Festival. YouTube, Ashley Hesseltine.

• 1:03:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Two weeks from today.

• 1:03:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Subscribe, sign up so you get notified when the special drops two weeks from today, from tonight. Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess. Raina is Raina Greenberg. RainaGreenberg.com for her tour tickets, if there are any left, and new dates in Salt Lake and Nashville. And that's it, you guys. You can always watch full video on YouTube and Spotify. And we will see you Monday.

• 1:03:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a great weekend, guys.

• 1:03:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.

• 1:04:15Speaker 02

  Whenever fall comes back around, it always feels like a fresh start. This year, I've been layering in some styles from the new Lululemon fall drop because the weather is shifting and I find I have to be ready for the entire day and not just one part of it. Lululemon's fall line has some really versatile transitional pieces, so I can just wake up, throw on a matching set, add a jacket or a fleece, and head out, knowing that I'll feel comfortable enough to go wherever the day takes me. Check out the new fall arrivals in store and online now at lululemon.com.