March Madness Begins, NFL Free Agency Buzz, Ryan Clark Responds to Kyler Murray Take, Combine Reactions, Athletes & Addiction, Mental Health, Podcast Beefs, 50 Cent vs T.I., Dating Hot Takes, Spouse vs Sponsor & Who Pays on a Date Gone Wrong?

“I see it as a tragedy and a cautionary tale, just think of what it could’ve been.” Ryan Clark Friday back with the fellas as Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder kick off March Madness and NFL's Free Agency frenzy for an unfiltered conversation where the mics seem hotter than normal...no guests—just the three guys giving fiery takes about everything happening right now in sports, culture and life. Taking a moment to talk about another young life lost to soon and why mental health is such a hard road to navigate in today's world. The conversation pivots into the wild world of podcast beefs and social media drama from 50 Cent to TI as the hosts give their honest takes on how the podcast game has changed media and why there is no standard of checks and balances. And it's Freddy T with the jaw dropping 50 Cent take. With the NFL Draft approaching and Free Agency about to shake up the league, Ryan responds to an old media clip resurfacing from 6 years ago— about his 2020 Kyler Murray projection—Chan laughs that people act like it was a new clip and is more caught up with Ryan's look from 2020 than what he said! The guys chat the biggest headlines coming out of the 2026 NFL Combine, talking about the pressure young prospects face, unfair criticisms and how media narratives can shape careers before they even begin. Getting into culture talk, crossover with sports, and how athletes and entertainers both deal with public scrutiny. They reflect on the ups and downs of life, not knowing what someone is really living with as the deeper story of Lamar Odom's addiction is revealed in a recent new documentary which opens up the discussion on what could have been for star athletes if they didn't have off the court and off the field distractions, as Channing shares his own experiences with it. Of course, it wouldn’t be The Pivot without some real-life scenarios to react to as Ryan, Channing and Fred get into a funny debate about splitting the bill on a date gone wrong—you already know what Channing is chiming in with! It’s a raw, funny, and honest conversation about sports, life, relationships, and navigating fame— the kind of unfiltered dialogue that makes The Pivot one of the most authentic podcasts in the game. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  It's been a while since we brought the band back together just to chop it up. So I'm excited to catch up with the crew. Today's show has layers, like an onion, or a parfait, if you prefer. Last week, the NFL lost one of our own, when Rondell Moore died by suicide. It's become so much more prevalent now, but still such a tragedy. And so when something like this happens, you just become reflective. We talk about his loss, our losses, and possible solutions. It's a difficult transition to get into 50 and TI's beef, Villa Luva versus McCants. It almost feels like we have too many mics, because we certainly have too much beef. The boys let you know how they feel about it all.

• 1:12Ryan Clark?

  Speaking of beef, does Kyler Murray now have the same thing with AZ? Because I'm upset about this six-year-old clip that just keeps resurfacing. Anyway, the combine was faster than ever, but I still left more impressed with Casey Concepcion than anybody else, even though he didn't run. Lamar Odom apparently had cocaine summers, and the dating scene has absolutely lost its mind. But mind you, we talk about it all. It's an absolute gem of a three-man pivot for you today, so please enjoy this chop-up between me, Chan, and Freddie T. And by the way, Pivot fam, thank you for pivoting with us.

• 2:12Ryan Clark?

  I feel like I haven't seen y'all in so long. That might have been the longest pivot break we've ever had.

• 2:17Fred Taylor?

  I miss y'all, boys, man.

• 2:18Ryan Clark?

  Man, we had a good time.

• 2:21Fred Taylor?

  I ran into Channing fishing alongside the creek.

• 2:25Channing Crowder?

  You was fishing too?

• 2:26Fred Taylor?

  No, I was going to run. I looked over to my right and Channing was there fishing. I pulled over, hopped out. Two minutes later, he had a fish this big on the line.

• 2:34Channing Crowder?

  Well, first off, Fred got the front part wrong. What kind of cars that you had?

• 2:40Fred Taylor?

  It's a Benz.

• 2:42Channing Crowder?

  He doing donuts in a four-way stop to get back to me. And I say, Fred, ain't that right? They ain't that serious, Fred. He came back and then, you know what? God bless me because I catch fish. But Fred, as soon as Fred came back, we caught like a three-foot snake head. And Fred was like, damn, Crowder, that's how you do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we do.

• 3:02Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, that's what we do all the time.

• 3:03Channing Crowder?

  That's what we do every, that's what we do all the time. But yeah, man, that, well, I miss y'all, boys.

• 3:07Ryan Clark?

  Man, good to see y'all, man. Welcome to the Pivot. It's a Pivot three-man weave on Friday. This is Fred Taylor, this is Channing Crowder. My name is Ryan Clark. Thank you Pivot fam for pivoting with us. Hard transition. You know, we all haven't gotten an opportunity to be together since Rondell Moore completed suicide. 25 years old. You know, from my perspective, a ton of life ahead of him. Just in this past few months, since the summer, we've seen Kyron Lacy, we've seen Marshawn Neeland, now Rondell Moore, gone. Just for you, Channing, just in hearing the news and sort of putting all of it together, what we are seeing more prevalent among young men in taking their own lives.

• 3:53Channing Crowder?

  I don't know what it is. You brought up Lacy and I talked about June Bug and Tay, Montay and Julius Taylors. Whenever we talk about this, I go back and then now it brings up those old emotions.

• 4:04Channing Crowder?

  Bro, I don't know. Y'all know I'm the big, you know, like, social media guy that's like, who cares? Who cares? Is that what it is? Is it exposure? Is it the attention that it gets? Is it the media attention that now we see it? Was it happening in the 80s to 90s? I don't know if it means something. But it's just sad, man. It's sad. He was still doing it. So you always want to say like, post-career, they don't know how to adjust and all that stuff. So everybody wants to put something on it. What is it? Why can't, if somebody could put their finger on that, that would be amazing information. And that's what I want to know. What was it? And obviously, it's too late now to talk to him about it. And that's why we always say, what's your, what's your three, your three questions?

• 4:50Ryan Clark?

  Are you good? Are you OK?

• 4:53Ryan Clark?

  The next one, forget it. Are you good?

• 4:55Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, you need anything.

• 4:56Ryan Clark?

  Are you okay? Do you need anything?

• 4:57Channing Crowder?

  You need anything. Like that, that advice, that's what we need to do because it has to happen before and not after because now Rondell can't tell us why.

• 5:07Fred Taylor?

  I think it's just a reminder that, you know, life is way bigger than football, bigger than money, bigger than fame. Because when you're no longer here and you're no longer available to your loved ones, none of that other stuff truly, really matters at the end of the day. As athletes, we're taught to be tough. You know, we're taught to hide or mask our pain or any things that we're going through. And a lot of times, we're afraid to approach people with, you know, what we're going through. And I know some people throw mental health out there and some people say, oh, you're using that for an excuse. But you never know, you know, how bad someone is actually, you know, grieving inside or hurting inside, man.

• 5:52Fred Taylor?

  And I think for this particular situation, it's just a reminder that we're all human, regardless of what we do for a career or a job or for hobbies or whatever it might be. We're all human and we all suffer. We all go through it. We always try and share the message, reach out, talk to people. But that's cliche. It's much harder than you think because that comes with trust. It comes with sacrifice as well. So I think for, you know, everybody that's listening, truly, truly, truly try to have, you know, that one special person in your life that you can go to for anything. But for the sport family, man, it's, again, it's just a reminder that,

• 6:36Fred Taylor?

  you know, we're not too big, you know, for anything. So it sucks.

• 6:41Ryan Clark?

  To me, when I see so many young men die by suicide, I start to think, have we sown into them enough to give them other options? Have we taught the resiliency that you need to persevere? Have we done our jobs in praising and training the player? Have we done our jobs in developing the person? Right? And building up the human? Because...

• 7:16Ryan Clark?

  This didn't feel like an option when I was younger, right? There were no shows like 13 Reasons Why that made it seem that if you took your own life, all the people that hurt you would have to suffer while you were gone and live with that. Because a lot of times, the people who have hurt you, they just move on. It's the people who love you and supported you, and they're now in their quiet moments having to deal with your loss. And as sad as it is, and as much as you want to tell, you know, those guys, talk to someone and reach out to someone. And like Fred said, like you said, when somebody, when you ask somebody how they're doing, actually tap in with them to see how they're doing. It's not just about that conversation. Because at some point,

• 8:00Ryan Clark?

  you're not going to be there to keep them from making that decision or to keep them from dealing with those demons and those thoughts that put them in that place. And all I can say is this. Na'Shel, my friend who I talk about and we've talked about whenever these things happen. I saw his mom for the first time in over a decade. And she walks up to me and she hugs me. And she said, "Thank you for saying his name." She said, "I hadn't heard his name said by somebody outside of our family in such a long time." And so if you're Rondell Moore's friend or family or teammate, Marshawn Nealon, Kyron Lacy, just keep saying their name. And don't allow the way that their lives ended

• 8:44Ryan Clark?

  to be the story that's told of their lives. Talk about all the things they did that affected you in a positive way.

• 8:52Channing Crowder?

  I just want to add something quickly, man. CJ Gardner-Johnson been on the show. I saw him recently. It was a video. It was a video when he was talking about like the pressures that it puts on him. And when he said, he was like, "I ain't got, I don't have but four or five years left." He's talking about his playing career. He's like, "I'm gonna go and bless another team." You know, CJ gonna be CJ. But that's the phrase I heard was like, he was like, "I ain't got but four or five years left of playing football, of doing this. What's next after this? And after that, and after that, and after that." When retire at 30 at the lady, you make it to 30, you, like, that's amazing. Well, man, the one thing I would love to tell the young players is that you've done this

• 9:35Channing Crowder?

  your whole life, and people don't think about that. You start playing ball at, what, five, six, seven, eight, and now you're 25, 30. That's your life. That's not your life. That's 20 years of your life. You got, man, you got 50 left. And that whole transition thing and just not, the whole identity thing, I'm not just a ball player, shut up and dribble and all that stuff. And that was when I was, I was watching CJ, I was like, damn, I gotta hit CJ up and talk to him about that because he was like, I got four, five years left of this point of your life. That's what you're talking about.

• 10:05Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, but see, I think CJ was different because CJ was talking about moving into streaming, right? He was talking, he, he feels like the pressures of football and the people pulling at you and like the subjectivity of can you play, will you play, do you work here, are you great for the locker room? That was too much for, right? And those are the pressures that a lot of people within the game face. And my thing is, where's the level of resiliency that gets you to understand that that's a blessing and to handle it, right? And that's, that's the way I see it. But you don't know what these people, individuals are dealing with internally. And so that's why I'm talking about just how do we teach them that there's

• 10:47Ryan Clark?

  another option, that there is something on the other side. How do we tell them, hey, if you're feeling this, we are here for you to tell you this is the next step. And the, the biggest thing I want to add before we move on is that this isn't just a football player problem, right? The, the suicide rates are rising in every demographic, in the demographic of black men the most in this country. So it's not just about playing the sport. It's just the pressures of life and sometimes they get to be too big for, for anybody. You know, Fred, we're in the podcast world, right? I feel like the podcast world has brought

• 11:28Ryan Clark?

  on more beef because, and this is, this is my opinion, right? It's because I feel like, one, you're extremely comfortable, but there are also no rules.

• 11:39Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 11:39Ryan Clark?

  Right? It's not like they have this governing body that says you can say this or you can't say that, or this level of coof they expect you to keep because you're on TV.

• 11:51Ryan Clark?

  Like just pictures of Tiny being thrown up, Lil King talking about get your dead mama. You know what I mean? Rashad McCants, Villain La Waver, all of them going at each other talking, you know? And it's, it's just wow. How do you think the new media has sort of embraced beef? It used to be embrace the bait. Now I feel like it's embrace the fight.

• 12:17Fred Taylor?

  What do they call it? Cloud chasing? A lot of it? I mean, I think that's just a social media thing. You got some people that are reckless and petty and dramatic. Shit, a couple of years ago, we was in a little podcast beef, right? We wasn't beefing. People was talking about us. You know what I'm saying? Trying to pull us down. And, and that's what happens in these things. But some people actually have personal issues with each other. And that just kind of goes out to the forefront. And then the blogs pick it up and now it's entertainment. And everybody's peeking around corners, trying to see what's really going on. But you, you kind of skimmed over. I think you mentioned King, T.I. Sons and all. So this is my thought on that, right?

• 12:59Fred Taylor?

  Beef and all that other stuff aside, 50 Cent. Just following it and paying attention to how 50 had been moving on social media. In my opinion, I can kind of see why he got shot, right? I mean, I don't know why he got shot.

• 13:16Channing Crowder?

  I don't know. He just said, don't look at me, I see.

• 13:19Fred Taylor?

  Listen, I don't know why he got shot. But, bro, you keep jigging, you keep poking the bear. 50 mess with everybody. And that pettiness can get you popped on. That's just life. That's the reality of it all. They once said, no women, no children. Why bring the man-wife into it? That's, that's off limits, bro. You know, at the very end of the day, that's off limits. If you got something with me, keep it with me. Even if you want to mess with my kid, do that too. But my wife, bro. It is no level of pettiness that any man should display towards another man by bringing their wife into the picture. Now, once you cross that line, then everything's fair game. And for that family to respond the way they responded, I'm cool with it.

• 14:03Fred Taylor?

  Because I don't like the messiness. I do love the fact that 50 has done all these things in his life, coming from where he's come from. Business mogul, production, what he's done with his album, Get Rich or Die Trying. I was a fan when he first dropped it. Sounded like he was from the South, I was like gravitated towards quick. But this of late, I don't really, I'm not cool with the petty petty, that pettiness. So, but I'm cool with how the family responded to defend Tiny, because them people don't mess with nobody.

• 14:31Channing Crowder?

  I'm gonna get back to the podcast stuff, remind me to get back to it. Thing with 50, watch film on him. You just brought up Get Rich or Die Trying. He is, he's a monetizer.

• 14:42Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 14:43Channing Crowder?

  The Diddy thing, he just came out with the Diddy documentary and had to pay somebody for the video. You know what I'm saying? Like, look at what he does. He finds a way, I hope, because T.I. is one of my uncles, like Mike Tomlin is one of my uncles as well, Pastor Troy, and the people that taught me how to be a man, Young Jeezy, I don't know if they're the best uncles, but they are. I'm watching what's going on. I hope he has nothing on T.I. Pick a fight, have a problem, have some in your back pocket, and monetize it. That's what 50 does. 50 is going to monetize this in some way.

• 15:17Fred Taylor?

  The money said, the money said in his song, the money said in his, in his track, 50 is profiting, right, off of black people's back. What he did with BMF. And we want to hear those stories, and that's, that's totally fine. But what he did with BMF, the Diddy doc, actually, he jumped on it, because if he didn't, then maybe people of other races probably would have done it. So, but you gotta also understand the lane that he's, he's traveling in. And it always comes back as, this man is picking us to do his business.

• 15:53Channing Crowder?

  To monetize.

• 15:54Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 15:55Channing Crowder?

  And that's what he's doing. If he would have just talked about T.I., if he didn't bring up Tiny, King, the money them boys would have jumped into it. My dad can handle himself, he brought it up for a reason. He brought it up. You know, why, why has he been so quiet since it came out? T.I., you just said all the boys are jumping on him, they making tracks. The woo the boy with the guitar, he killed that thing.

• 16:14Ryan Clark?

  That's because he ain't trying to rap, though.

• 16:16Channing Crowder?

  But he didn't even, he hasn't said a word about, he threw out bait, let the sharks come, and then he sits back and waits to monetize. He might be making a documentary right now.

• 16:28Ryan Clark?

  But the thing, but you said, you said it right. Just watch 50's film. This is his entire life, right? As great as Get Rich or Die Trying was, and still is, there was the beef with Murder Inc. and Ja Rule, where to me, it changed the trajectory of Ja Rule's career. At the time, we was all so, "I'm real, the way you..." I was in, I was bumping all that, the while, I felt like I couldn't sing it no more.

• 16:56Channing Crowder?

  I wanted to go to the, what was it, the Fire Festival.

• 16:58Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But they didn't even show up. And so, I think for him, this is a continuation of like, what his entire life has been. And the thing I would say about him, I would be uncomfortable being his friend.

• 17:15Channing Crowder?

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:16Ryan Clark?

  You know, and however he feels about whatever people say about him, it is what it is. There is a large amount of people that he was once close to, that he's no longer close to, and it's public that they have an issue because he made it public. Right? He doesn't just ever fall out with people. 50 Cent doesn't get to a point where it's like, our relationship is done. We've had what we had, we both respect each other, let's walk away from it. Right? There's always something else said, there's always something else that's made public, or something else that has to be done through the media, social media. And I think that's difficult when you work with a person that's like that. Because on his one hand, he's a genius. Right? From creating G-Unit, to now these media companies,

• 18:00Ryan Clark?

  to now meetings with Tyler Perry, building his own studio, all of these things. You want to be in lockstep with him from a business standpoint. But it's also, like you said, when you said with Mike Tyson, it's like being around a pit bull, because you don't know when it's going to bite you. And so I think like, that's the difficulty in who he is as the person, as opposed to who he is as the businessman. Because he's a brilliant businessman, you know?

• 18:27Speaker 00

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• 18:56Channing Crowder?

  But what you said you wanted to get back to the beef part? The beef part? It brings that thing with, uh, it brings people together so easily now that the personalities got to clash. You said podcasting? Podcasting. Podcasting brings, it's so fast, it's so right now, and we go viral, they gotta speak on it. They say something, they gotta speak, so everything's connected and you get them clips. So now you get a McCant, who is wild, but we know Gil wild. So they over there arguing. So you just have so many personalities that are one click away from each other, and that's why it's beef. I don't want to say crabs in a bucket,

• 19:38Channing Crowder?

  but we've talked about it before, like Wallow and Gil we cool with. You know, it's a lot of podcasts do, we cool. Every time we see each other, we chop it up. But it's some dudes that act funny towards us when you see them. But it's the personality of different people that you just don't vibe with, that you're now in the same locker room with. And I think that's why the beef is. And I don't know, I don't know a lot of them do. I don't know McCant, I want to meet him because he funny as hell. Like, I don't know those dudes that they really are pit bulls like that. Like you said, like Tyson was a pit bull. When I'm in room, we talk about it. When you in room with a pit bull, you can just feel that energy. I don't know a lot of guys, never talked to them. But it's putting real pit bulls in rooms with fake pit bulls,

• 20:23Channing Crowder?

  in rooms with people that's been with lions and knows how to act like a lion but's really a sheep. And that's why I think the podcast stuff is so funny to me. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, man. Like, I hate, I hate the way it's trending.

• 20:34Ryan Clark?

  It's made me change the entire way I frame conversations. I frame responses. Like, I've always been very aware to not get personal with insults about people. Right? But it's also because I understand how I take those things, how those, how I comprehend those things. So to me, though, like, I hate the whole podcast beef thing because if you got an issue with somebody, have a real issue with them, right? And it's changed the way that I do media. If I'm gonna talk about something you said, which is like a big thing in podcasting, right?

• 21:15Ryan Clark?

  It's not necessarily always talking about the actual issue, the experience, or the action of the sport. It's talking about what somebody said about it. And so my thing is now, I'll introduce it, that you said something about it, and I'm gonna talk about the thing. Even if it's your take that I disagree with, I'm not gonna disagree during the take about you and who you are and your perspective and where you come from. And I'm for sure not finna go back and forth with you. Because what I've learned, right? Which is probably not a great thing about me. I found people's phone numbers. I've DM'd them. I've asked to meet. I've asked to have a conversation. And I realized, oh, wait.

• 21:58Ryan Clark?

  You just doing this for entertainment. You continue to use my name because you need to use my name. I don't even think about talking about you. People, as a matter of fact, I don't see it. People send it to me. And after learning that, I'm like, oh, wait. This ain't a real thing. And there had something over the summer that I wouldn't get involved with. And then that same person said something about me moving forward in a different situation. And we had a conversation face to face. And they were like, man, you know, like, it's just about entertainment for me, this and this. I was like, I don't do that for entertainment. I'm not finna be anybody's clown. I'm not finna be corny for profit. I'm not doing any of that.

• 22:42Ryan Clark?

  I'm not doing none of that soft shit. I'm not. I'm not finna talk about you, disrespect you, insult you, so these mother effers watch my show. So they think that we got something going on that we don't. That's soft, bruh. And continuously going back and forth, if I got your phone number, that's a whole move to me.

• 23:06Ryan Clark?

  Like, at some point, if I gotta keep talking about you, and I could contact you, I need to contact you. Because clearly, if I gotta keep your name on my off, I got a problem. And so to me, that's my big thing. If you talk about me, man, you got it. Right? If you insult me, man, you got it. Because if I ever say something to you, we got a real problem. And so to me, that's why I love our space, cuz we just try, I want, I want us to tell stories. I want us to be authentic. I don't wanna move in that way.

• 23:34Channing Crowder?

  What percentage of people in this space have that philosophy? Like I was talking about the segments. But now we all have to talk about it. And they didn't wanna talk about it, but they don't wanna call you. Like you said, no names. I know who you're talking about.

• 23:48Fred Taylor?

  Yes.

• 23:50Channing Crowder?

  But no names, but some people don't, they don't wanna have that conversation. They want clicks, what you call it, uh?

• 23:56Fred Taylor?

  Clout chasing.

• 23:57Channing Crowder?

  Clout chasing, rage baiting, whatever. It's people that do that for a purpose, to get clicks, to get clout.

• 24:03Fred Taylor?

  I think the beautiful thing is, going back now where we're year four, right? Out the gate, before we did a show, when R.C. laid it out and say, "Look, it's gonna always be about the quality of the content." Not the views, but the quality of the content, cuz that'll eventually continue to grow over time. And the views will come, but as long as you keep the main thing the main thing and, and focus on the guests and just the, the quality of the content, we'll be fine. And that leaves us out of the, the messy, dramatic, over dramatic, you know, clout chasing conversation. Even when you are going viral, Chin, and it's not, you know, you're not trying to be messy.

• 24:43Channing Crowder?

  No, no, I can say my opinion.

• 24:45Fred Taylor?

  Of course.

• 24:45Channing Crowder?

  Well, almost to R.C.'s point, well, we have different opinion, but also, R.C., like, when I say my opinion, I said what I said. People think they gonna talk me off of different thing.

• 24:54Fred Taylor?

  That's what I said, but you're not attacking.

• 24:56Channing Crowder?

  What I said.

• 24:57Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 24:57Channing Crowder?

  I don't attack nobody. We're cool. And another thing, people always gotta choose a side. Oh, well, he arguing with him, you boys are both in them, ain't you?

• 25:06Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 25:08Channing Crowder?

  They disagree on something. Like, why does it always have to go to a point of, "Oh, well, you gotta see..." No, we don't have to figure out a goddamn thing. That's my homeboy from back in the day. That's my homeboy from 10 years ago. No, they disagree. Y'all disagree on things that I know about it. Me and you, us three disagree.

• 25:28Channing Crowder?

  You don't have to pick a side between me and Fred's argument.

• 25:30Ryan Clark?

  Nope.

• 25:30Channing Crowder?

  Man. Y'all got it, bro. Y'all, hey, we all on the grass, honey? It is what it is.

• 25:35Ryan Clark?

  It all stems from social media? You know? Like, I look back at the Combine from the weekend, and, you know, I've communicated with Casey Concepcion. Right? He had a speech impediment growing up. He gets on the microphone and social media attacks him because of the way he speaks, because of the way he's presenting himself. They don't know the root of what they're watching. They don't know how far he's come. Right? They also aren't acknowledging, "All of you mother effers wish you were standing at the podium at the Combine, about to be a first two-round pick with people asking you questions about your career." All of you wish you had that moment.

• 26:20Ryan Clark?

  And for a kid who had to overcome something, to be in that moment and to stand there and to answer all those questions and to present the way he did. He showed more than most people who are talking about him on social media will ever show in their entire life. But it even goes back to the earlier conversation that we're having, though. Like, it is the negativity that sells. It's the negativity that drives people. It's the negativity that gives people engagement. Because mother effers are just miserable. Right? And here this man is, living his dream, and you got something to say about that. And to me, that's where TV is going. But there were so many, like, positive things

• 27:04Ryan Clark?

  that came out of the Combine. What is something, Freddie T., that you think stood out to you as we head into now free agency, then the draft?

• 27:13Fred Taylor?

  Man, they did a top 10 on the 40-yard dash. Bro. These guys, what was it, 426 was the fastest?

• 27:21Channing Crowder?

  The fastest, but they were all rolling.

• 27:23Fred Taylor?

  They were all rolling, 426, 427, 427, 428, 431. Just the way that, I believe the science of the athlete, you know what I'm saying? Just teaching them how to run, preparation for the combine, so they can put up those type numbers. I want to say this was the fastest group of 40-yard dashes in the history of the combine. I mean, everybody was blazing in. Again, when we were playing, we said, we were here that they said players are getting bigger, stronger, faster. And we thought, can't continue to get bigger, stronger, faster. But look around. These guys are bigger, stronger, and they're definitely as faster or faster. So just the athleticism of the players,

• 28:07Fred Taylor?

  this group that's coming in, should be an interesting draft class. So I'll be interested to see what happens in Pittsburgh, right?

• 28:15Channing Crowder?

  Yep.

• 28:15Fred Taylor?

  It's in Pittsburgh, so I'm looking forward to that.

• 28:18Channing Crowder?

  The science of the body, for sure, is something that untapped. Aristotle said, you don't know what the body can do until the body does it.

• 28:25Fred Taylor?

  Aristotle said that?

• 28:27Channing Crowder?

  Did he say it? Aristotle, I believe.

• 28:28Fred Taylor?

  Okay.

• 28:29Channing Crowder?

  But that was the thing, you guys get back. But it was the fastest 40s of all time. That was overshadowed by Mackay-Lemmon and your boy.

• 28:39Fred Taylor?

  Casey Concepcion.

• 28:40Channing Crowder?

  Casey's, that's overshadowed by that, the negativity of it is stupid. My thing with Mackay-Lemmon, he's a monster receiver.

• 28:47Fred Taylor?

  Very good.

• 28:48Channing Crowder?

  Concepcion, first, second-rounder. They're not media members. I say you're one of the only people that had communication degrees coming out. You.

• 28:58Fred Taylor?

  You would have killed the combine, but they ain't invited you.

• 29:05Channing Crowder?

  You would have destroyed interviews. But they said, nah. He can't come over here.

• 29:11Ryan Clark?

  We catch that pro day.

• 29:13Channing Crowder?

  But that gets to me when people talk about that. Like, I just go back, it makes me think about Ricky Williams. Where everybody, if you, if you think about Ricky's career, like some of these young kids, they just see him doing the, the helmet interview. Did you see his seasons with the Saints and the Dolphins?

• 29:28Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 29:28Channing Crowder?

  But the negativity comes up. He has social anxiety, it's open now, he knows it. My boy, Ronnie Brown, Ronnie Brown's not a big talker. He's a nice throw, he's not a big talker. They don't think about that. Why do you cross over somebody's personality or their traits or their deficiencies? Having a speech impediment?

• 29:45Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 29:46Channing Crowder?

  What does that have to do with covering, tackling, blocking?

• 29:49Ryan Clark?

  Catching the football.

• 29:50Channing Crowder?

  Honestly, what does that have to do? A quarterback, quarterback has to communicate. It might be a problem in the huddle if he doesn't speak clearly. Other positions? Who gives a damn? That boy's a monster, let him go play. But not even talking about the NFL's, not comparing it to social media. But the, the Combine isn't trying to see what you do good, it's trying to see what you do bad.

• 30:13Ryan Clark?

  Yep.

• 30:14Channing Crowder?

  It's trying to find a knock against you. We have them graded first round. Oh, look at his three cone, look at his vertical, look at his long broad jump. That's what the Combine for. Combine can take, it takes more guys stock down than it does up.

• 30:27Ryan Clark?

  But the, the Combine is so scouts don't have to do their job, right? Because the job is to watch the film. The job is to see what sort of player he is, what it looked like on Saturday in college and how that translates to NFL game day. But what a scout wants is what Jeremiah Love did. Jeremiah Love comes into this, you're the number one running back, we know that. But when you go 436 at 214, now it says, wait, we gotta move him up. Cause that's Jameer Gibbs' speed, but 14 pounds heavier. Now I can go place the tape on the GM's desk and say, this the tape?

• 31:08Ryan Clark?

  This the numbers, 9.1 yards per carry when facing like boxes, but he also ran 4.36. He's also 214. Look at his drills catching the football. Now I don't have to do my job as hard. And then the other guy that you on the fence about, when he comes out and runs 4.6, when you thought he was a 4.4 guy, now you take him off your first round board completely and you say, "I would love to draft him and the film says he might be a first-rounder, but I can't do it at 4.6." Like that's what the Combine is for and those numbers are for. It's to make my job easier because the job is watching the film, right? Fred made their job easy. The film said top 10 and then he ran 4.2. Hell, it's easy for me.

• 31:49Channing Crowder?

  Get the big boy.

• 31:50Ryan Clark?

  Get him. And like that to me is the thing that the Combine does.

• 31:54Channing Crowder?

  I got one question for you because I'm in Miami. Everybody's talking about Carson Beck. So I looked at the number. Carson Beck has 1,390 attempts. He's completed 990 something passes. Why does he need to throw at the Combine? You can't watch the film of 1,390 passes to see if he can throw out or a post or a flag or a tunnel screen or what is he trying to prove at the Combine when he done thrown damn near 1,400 passes?

• 32:20Ryan Clark?

  So I'm gonna say this about the Combine and the skill drills. Whether it's throwing, receiving, running backs, it's the only time in your entire evaluation process where I get to see Fred Taylor stand next to Jeremiah Love. And I get to see Fred Taylor run through a drill and now I get to see Jeremiah Love run through it right after. That's the part that's the draw for me because I'm not, if I'm a scout, right? General Manager Ryan Clark. I don't care as much about the numbers as much as I care about how tall you walk when you standing next to the dude that's supposed to be drafted in front of you.

• 33:03Ryan Clark?

  How much are you watching him and trying to compete with him when it's his turn to go and you watch him and now when I get up, I want to be better than that? How much are you paying attention to their times? I want to see that competitive edge in the most competitive situation you've been in, in that form. The big difference too though Freddie T and you're talking about the numbers is when I ran the 40 for the first time, it was the first time I truly ran the 40 to be tested. These dudes go to Under Armour camps and Nike camps and Adidas camps. They have, every time we get to a combine, they show their senior year numbers in high school at some camp and they show their numbers today, right? Because they are getting opportunities to do it. So I expect numbers to rise.

• 33:48Ryan Clark?

  For me, I want to see like in that big moment, can you compete with those dudes around you who are great as well?

• 33:55Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, because the pressure comes in all forms and that's a big moment for a lot of guys. Like that's their version of a bowl game or their Super Bowl. Can you rise to the top? And a lot of times, coaches or scouts want to see these guys in that arena to see what RC said, how they, you know, react or respond to their moment, so.

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• 34:46Ryan Clark?

  Do you think, you think you could respond if you was on that cocaine?

• 34:49Fred Taylor?

  You know what?

• 34:49Ryan Clark?

  Like Lamar Odom? That crowded powder?

• 34:53Channing Crowder?

  Man, that crowded powder is great on chicken, seafood.

• 34:57Ryan Clark?

  Not that powder powder. But he did, yeah, he did say though, he said he had great cocaine summers. The man said he was not on that cane, game time.

• 35:09Channing Crowder?

  I just know the Lawrence Taylor stories.

• 35:13Channing Crowder?

  Have y'all read, I read LT's books, to the edge, over the edge and all, you know LT's my favorite player of all time.

• 35:19Channing Crowder?

  My understanding is you don't just snort cocaine for two months and then keep it, then just stop. Big Randy snorted powder, he played in the 70s. My understanding of him friends and stories I heard as a grown man, you don't have a two, you don't have a two window cocaine summer. I think it's maybe a little manufactured about the cocaine summer story. To be honest, I wasn't in the locker room, I didn't see him walk in, but I think that's a stretch for Lamar Odom to say that.

• 35:48Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, I, I don't think it's a stretch. You know, the same as guys doing popping pills and all these different things in their offseason. I think it's possible to have cocaine summers and, you know, have a little fun. And, cause the one thing, most guys would prefer to have cocaine summers than marijuana summers, because the marijuana, the weed gonna stay in your system. Now you're gonna go back and fill the test as opposed to bumping a little powder. Say I did my nose, not that I do powder, or I ever have, and never will.

• 36:18Ryan Clark?

  Fred, are you, are you making the case for being a cocaine addict right now?

• 36:23Fred Taylor?

  No, I am not. Thank you for catching that. No, I'm not. But what I'm saying is, you said you, he's a stretch. You might not believe it. I believe him. Definitely.

• 36:34Channing Crowder?

  Somebody can snort coke for eight weeks.

• 36:37Fred Taylor?

  It doesn't have to be eight weeks.

• 36:38Channing Crowder?

  And then stop for 40.

• 36:39Fred Taylor?

  It doesn't have, who said he stopped? Who said he stopped?

• 36:43Ryan Clark?

  He said he stopped. He said he do it during the summer.

• 36:46Channing Crowder?

  And never snorted another line the rest of the year.

• 36:49Fred Taylor?

  That part might, that part might be a stretch. And maybe he's not, maybe he didn't have an overly addictive personality. Maybe he could cut off.

• 36:58Channing Crowder?

  He just, he told the world he was an addict the other day.

• 37:01Fred Taylor?

  Well, I didn't hear that, bro.

• 37:02Ryan Clark?

  The thing about Lamar Odom is, when I hear the stories he tells about what his life was like, he actually overachieved.

• 37:14Ryan Clark?

  Right, and not based on his talent, cuz I think it was Rhode Island, coming out of college, like Lamar Odom was the dude, right, a lefty, he was kind of the, the evolution, in my opinion, of like what Magic Johnson started, which got us to LeBron, right, like Lamar Odom was a part of that, and so, he didn't overachieve from a talent standpoint, but bro, if you have that sort of addiction, and he said it himself, if you have that sort of addiction, the time that you're supposed to be spending preparing to play your game is hindered, right, because marijuana's probably the, the different one, marijuana's like,

• 37:54Ryan Clark?

  I can smoke this after I work out and just play video games all day and eat, right, cocaine and pills and all that, that goes along with partying, and partying affects your morning, and how you eat, and how you train, and how you work, and when he tells this story, I know people are listening to it, and it is cool entertainment, it's crazy to hear about an excellent basketball player who had a cocaine addiction and played as long as he did, I see it as a tragedy, I see it as like a cautionary tale, cuz think of what you could have been, right, and you're a competitor, you're a competitor, there's no way he looks back at his career and doesn't say, what could I have been, who could I have been

• 38:39Ryan Clark?

  if I wasn't dealing with that, right, so like when I would tell the story, and he did say like, I, I, I took years off my career, I didn't do certain things I was supposed to do, like that's how I would look at it, Freddie T.

• 38:52Fred Taylor?

  So, what you're saying is, LT would be a different player if he didn't do what LT did?

• 39:00Ryan Clark?

  I'ma say this, I'ma say this, they say that coke make you not feel something, John Jones beat DC on that cocaine, so, I don't know.

• 39:07Channing Crowder?

  I said, I wouldn't do no coke, I'd be out enjoying coke, I was drinking and enjoying life, but, no cocaine was involved, but we've talked about it before, where if I didn't party as much, but I didn't go out, go out every night, if I went to strip clubs, like I was a strip club guy, could I have played another year or two, would I have made another tackle here or there, like, I don't know, I, retrospect, you can't say it, but in LT's book, he said he woke up, leaving the strip club one morning, from sleeping, going to sleep in the strip club, looked over at the stadium and said, what's going on over there? It was a Sunday.

• 39:42Channing Crowder?

  They came and got him, gave him an IV on the way to the stadium. He went out there and had like 11 tackles, two sacks. Could that have been 18 tackles, three sacks? Like, he was that good in the book. I don't know if those are the exact numbers of the book, but it was something crazy like that where they used to know, "Hey, LT's not here yet." Bill Belichick told the story where Parcells, LT came late to a meeting and Parcells, Bill Belichick went back and told Parcells, "Hey, LT was late. He missed half the meeting." And Parcells said, "So why'd you start the meeting without LT?" Because he was that good. So I don't, I honestly, I don't think I could be as good as LT. I think he's the best defensive player ever to touch the field. Sorry, sorry, Coach Prime. But LT was that guy. But what did he do to his career? Because who was he on with? T-Mac and?

• 40:27Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, T-Mac and Vince.

• 40:28Channing Crowder?

  And Vince. And he was saying, through all that stuff, through all the Kardashian stuff, "I'm doing whatever I'm doing. I don't want to speculate." "I'm also shooting a reality show during a season I get the sixth man of the year."

• 40:43Channing Crowder?

  Like, what could that have been if you weren't putting all those distractions, as we call them, in your mind? You gotta, bro, you gotta think about it. You gotta think about what could have happened.

• 40:52Ryan Clark?

  And you win championships and you're the sixth man of the year and you play at an All-Star level so often and you play with some of the greatest players in the game. And so, there is a fulfillment to your career, right? You are content. But I always say, like, I knew what I had the potential to be. And I feel like I got damn close to all of that because of the way I worked, the way I focused on it. And which makes me very comfortable in retirement. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I had a chance to be what he could have been, which is a Hall of Famer, honestly, would I ever, how much I would question those decisions, you know, that I made? And it's funny, you mentioned the Kardashian thing.

• 41:36Ryan Clark?

  I saw this thing on social media and I put it on threads. So I'll ask you. You're on a first date. Whether it's dating out, blind date, set up from a friend, however you meet him. During the date, you start having conversations and the woman tells you... We are not going on another date. We are not compatible. I don't feel like.

• 42:03Channing Crowder?

  Verbally?

• 42:04Ryan Clark?

  Verbally, tells you to your face. Being transparent though and honest. This is the last date for us. In the story, the guy sort of misrepresented some of the things he wanted. Like he said, he was comfortable with kids. He tell her on a date, he didn't want kids. So she's like, oh, this is our last date, I'm done. And he tells her, since you say this is our last date, let's split this bill. Is that fair or foul?

• 42:29Channing Crowder?

  It's right. Fair or foul is right or wrong? It's right or wrong? Is this, that, that, people have a different opinion of that?

• 42:39Ryan Clark?

  Splitting the bill is right?

• 42:41Channing Crowder?

  We're having a date where we're, we're, we're trying to figure each other out if this is gonna be a relationship. You flat out tell me after 30 minutes, oh, this ain't working. Now this is a business meeting. Isn't it? I, I, you said something, sent a tweet or something about it and I was like, oh, okay. I thought it was a whole different story. He told her, oh yeah, no, this ain't gonna work, we good.

• 43:07Ryan Clark?

  She told him, yeah.

• 43:08Channing Crowder?

  She told him that? This is a business meeting now. So, uh, I had the gin gel, I had the crab legs. What you have with your fat ass over there? I'm just, no, I'm just playing, but, no, no, no, it's, now it's a business meeting because this is not going to be anything. We're never gonna see each other again. Okay, we had dinner at the same table. That's all that happened. We were at the bar, we at the bar together, you ain't here and I ain't there. You get your beer, I get mine, ma'am. Break it down, you know what we had.

• 43:35Fred Taylor?

  Right, yeah, I think the best part about that was, was that transparency and the honesty in it. She didn't, you know, lead him on. And if he, like RC said, if he contradicted himself prior to the date and then while on the date then, and she felt some type of way then, yeah, she got out of it figuring maybe he'll continue to lie or contradict himself if we continue to move forward. With dating, I think it goes back to expectations, you know, to, to begin with. When you go on a date, uh, most times you go into it, uh, not, probably 90% of dates are assumed that the guy is gonna pay for everything.

• 44:14Channing Crowder?

  90?

• 44:15Fred Taylor?

  Maybe. I don't know the numbers. I'm just saying.

• 44:18Channing Crowder?

  Hundred.

• 44:19Fred Taylor?

  I don't know, because there are some women that say, no, let's just go on a date. I got me. You don't have to get me. I got me. You know, and they go to, go into it that way. But that's, that's a small percentage, right? So leading into it, expectations is a big thing. I don't have a problem with him saying, look, let's split this bill. You know, I wouldn't do it necessarily. But that's the way he felt. That's the way he felt. We're different. I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have done it. Because I can, I can tolerate it. I mean, we talking about, if we talking about fifty, sixty bucks, eh, come on, bro.

• 44:53Channing Crowder?

  Man, go give that food to the, to the children that are hungry.

• 44:56Ryan Clark?

  No, Chan, Chan.

• 44:57Channing Crowder?

  Go give that food to the children that are hungry. You gonna pay, you gonna pay for this mean money? She could have kept that to herself.

• 45:03Ryan Clark?

  Chan, if I invite, okay, if I invite a woman to dinner, I'm a single man, I invite a woman to dinner. During the dinner, we realize, or she realizes, she no longer wants to date me. She doesn't want a second date. Right? And she's honest enough about that. To say it not in a mean way, not insulting, just be like, some of the things that I thought you valued in our conversations, you don't value, those are important to me. I don't see a need to continue to lead you on, make you think it's gonna be something else. To me, what I say at that point is, I agree with you. This is no longer a date, right? Because a date means, because I'm paying for this food, because it could lead to another opportunity to get to know you.

• 45:45Channing Crowder?

  Yes.

• 45:46Ryan Clark?

  But on that date, I don't ask her to split the bill. Now, would I pay it, shake her hand, say, nice to meet you, and get out? Yeah, because there's no more reason for us to have a conversation if you already told me that we ain't dating no more because we wasn't never friends. Right? We got into this to see if we was gonna be something more than friends. Now that I know we ain't gonna be something more than friends, we for sure ain't cool. But Chan, you can't make her pay the bill.

• 46:09Channing Crowder?

  But we're frie-, why we friends now?

• 46:11Ryan Clark?

  No, we not friends.

• 46:12Channing Crowder?

  When we sit down, hey, man, you got it, and we'll pick it up, because that's what men do. Be like, nah, I got this one, you got the last one, dah dah dah. If you're sitting with anybody, woman, man, any, anything, and there's nothing that's gonna happen more in this relationship, it's like sitting with your boys. And if we just met yesterday.

• 46:35Channing Crowder?

  And we sit down and there's nothing more that's coming of this. You don't even want to see me no more. Like you said, we're not friends. I don't even know you. What's your middle name? Oh, Marilyn. Okay, thank you. Now, this is two friends sitting down, eating. You pay for your food, I'm paying for my food. Let's watch the ba- let's watch the basketball game, Fred.

• 46:54Fred Taylor?

  And that's, that's, that's, that's the way you think.

• 46:57Channing Crowder?

  No, that's the way it is.

• 46:58Fred Taylor?

  You've done business meetings where you've met whomever, a person for a potential business opportunity. And you've covered the check.

• 47:07Channing Crowder?

  I put it on the business card because now it's going towards something.

• 47:11Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, you still covered the check.

• 47:12Channing Crowder?

  I'm never gonna see this person.

• 47:13Fred Taylor?

  When he could've easily said, "Let's just, I'll, I'll take my, my salad and my steak, and you get your burger and your salad, and we split this." This business, he want to take his expense too, possibly. Or he might even cover it.

• 47:25Channing Crowder?

  My friend.

• 47:25Fred Taylor?

  It's petty.

• 47:26Channing Crowder?

  But that could be something, that could be something. Okay.

• 47:29Fred Taylor?

  On Wednesday or Thursday.

• 47:31Channing Crowder?

  This is nothing. It becomes, we're sitting across, trying to get to know each other, right? That's what a date is, right? You're getting to know each other.

• 47:40Ryan Clark?

  So in your mind, I'm not paying for today's interaction. I'm actually paying for the next interaction.

• 47:47Channing Crowder?

  The day two that she said, "I don't want." We're together, sitting across from each other, right? I pay for the date, I'm the man. I asked you out.

• 47:57Channing Crowder?

  "Hey, I, I thought you were different than what, you know, what is it, your filter." I see the filter thing now. They had the filter on them, the skinny filter, and they come, and they don't have the skinny filter.

• 48:07Ryan Clark?

  Like, like I said, you, you had an Afro on your profile, and now you bald.

• 48:11Channing Crowder?

  Now you bald. I don't like bald men. Like, this ain't gonna work out. You mis, you misrepresented yourself. Now, we're sitting next to each other.

• 48:21Ryan Clark?

  Now, y'all not face to face no more. Y'all watching the TV.

• 48:23Channing Crowder?

  Well, I said, "Let's watch the basketball game." You like the heat? Yeah, boy, Bam Ballin', boy. Bam, we get him seventeen, seventeen tonight, seventeen to ten.

• 48:32Ryan Clark?

  So let me progress this question. Say you are a single man of means, right? And a woman says, if you want me to be with you and be with you exclusively, I need forty-five to fifty thousand a month in order to do that. You don't want me, you don't want me to work? You want me to just be here with you, be here exclusively? I need forty-five to fifty thousand. Or they say, I could, if you wanna date me, you gotta be worth a hundred mil.

• 49:00Channing Crowder?

  This couldn't have happened in real life.

• 49:02Ryan Clark?

  This is things that were said last week. What does she bring to the table for forty racks a month? Friendship?

• 49:10Channing Crowder?

  I got a dog. Forty thousand dollars a month.

• 49:13Ryan Clark?

  Fifty, fifty Gs.

• 49:14Channing Crowder?

  Fifty racks a month just to say you're, I'm with you.

• 49:17Ryan Clark?

  So we're exclusive.

• 49:18Channing Crowder?

  And you got, there's no...

• 49:22Channing Crowder?

  You're not cleaning the roof, managing the portfolio, you know? I don't know, help him mopping the pool, getting the fishing bait, nothing.

• 49:30Ryan Clark?

  You're his woman.

• 49:32Channing Crowder?

  I'm paying you just to stare at you.

• 49:35Ryan Clark?

  I'm sure to do other things as well.

• 49:38Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, there's some good women in the... That's nuts.

• 49:43Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, no, that's, what is it? Social media economics? People are crazy. They just pull numbers out the air. Fifty thousand a month just for you is insane. That's ridiculous.

• 49:54Ryan Clark?

  What, what?

• 49:54Fred Taylor?

  No, I'm, I'm saying, I don't agree with that. You know, fifty thousand money is ridiculous. What is that? Sixty, six hundred thousand a year?

• 50:00Ryan Clark?

  Six hundred thousand a year.

• 50:01Fred Taylor?

  After taxes? That, that, that's even more insane.

• 50:04Channing Crowder?

  Now?

• 50:06Fred Taylor?

  Some people want a spouse and some people want a sponsor. And to want fifty thousand dollars a month is more on the sponsorship piece. So you can do the airplanes and the private jets. That's just bananas. But again, that's the, the downside or the, the bad part of social media. Cause a lot of times people see this and think, I need that. With fifty thousand dollars a month, you don't need fifty thousand dollars. What are you gonna do with fifty thousand dollars?

• 50:33Channing Crowder?

  Get out of that Toyota Passayio that I met you in.

• 50:36Fred Taylor?

  Well, what, really? What are you gonna do with fifty thousand dollars a month?

• 50:39Ryan Clark?

  Waste it up?

• 50:40Fred Taylor?

  That's, that's, that's like, that's broke people talk, honestly. That's broke people who ain't never really had nothing type of talk. Because once people really get something...

• 50:52Fred Taylor?

  People with a lot of money don't, unless they necessarily really have to, homes and stuff, you're not gonna just go out and just spend 50K a month. That's ridiculous.

• 51:01Ryan Clark?

  I think, one, these microphones are getting a lot of people in trouble. People will say stupid things when they get on these microphones. That's the, that's the first point. $600,000 a year so you could be with me is ridiculous. The other piece of it is too, if you are walking into the relationship saying you need 50,000 a month, that means in some way I've already earned it without you. I built this life without your support, without your help, without your sacrifice,

• 51:40Ryan Clark?

  without your time, and just because God made you, you're supposed to get this money. That's not how it works. That's called prostitution. Right? And the crazy part about it is, yes, in my relationship with my wife, if there's a big purchase, well, she asks me, "Hey, is this okay?" Yes, most times I'm saying yes anyway because I know you're not going to put the family in peril based on your purchases. Right? But that's because when I was 17 and I walked into Monsanto Park, you were 16, and you, you ain't have nothing, and I ain't have nothing.

• 52:23Fred Taylor?

  No.

• 52:24Ryan Clark?

  That's not the conversations we're talking about. And Dr. Cheyenne Bryant said the other day that men are looking for relationships and marriage, but women are looking more at monetary value and money and building. And that's crazy to me that the whole dynamic has shifted from a, "Let's be something together," to, "What can I profit or gain from being with you?" Relationships are now just partnerships where we get to have fun and have sex sometimes. You know, like, and I don't believe that's the hole for everybody.

• 53:04Channing Crowder?

  No.

• 53:05Ryan Clark?

  Right? I do think as women get older and are searching for a partner, their priorities change, right? They cease things different ways. They want to be taken care of in a different way. Where it was loyalty, trust, honesty, discipline, hardworking, faithful, right? Well, it was those things. Now that list's switched and it's like, yeah, you can be those things too, but even if you those things, I need this level of comfort in my life. I think that's difficult to deal with.

• 53:40Channing Crowder?

  It's unconditional and conditional love. There's a lot more conditional. We just talked about it with the dinner. We all agree on it and the world agrees on it. If a man asks a woman to eat vice versa, we just see each other and we sit at the same table. What's supposed to happen? The man's supposed to pay for it. He's supposed to. You just said a small percent of women might say, no, I ate this food, I'm paying for it respectfully. But it's gonna be assumed that the man is gonna pay for that.

• 54:07Fred Taylor?

  That's what I said, and that's what I believe.

• 54:08Channing Crowder?

  It's society. It's really gender roles.

• 54:10Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 54:11Channing Crowder?

  But people don't like gender roles until they benefit them.

• 54:15Ryan Clark?

  And man, you know, we did all the social media stuff in this show. I'm on the plane this morning. Get off the plane, you know, I get a DM and it's a 2020 video of me sitting in my house during COVID, me and Dominique talking about Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson. And I was wrong. Right? I said, at that point, Kyler was leading the MVP conversation. They asked me to pick a side. I picked a side.

• 54:42Channing Crowder?

  What year was it?

• 54:43Ryan Clark?

  This is 2020. I picked a more, I picked a more fun side, a side that was more difficult to prove. But at the time, it was a sound argument. It is less sound now that Kyler Murray.

• 54:56Channing Crowder?

  Less sound.

• 54:57Ryan Clark?

  Is, has been released. It's less sound than it was initially.

• 55:01Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 55:02Ryan Clark?

  What do you think about my take?

• 55:04Channing Crowder?

  It's so funny. Terrible take.

• 55:09Channing Crowder?

  We sit here today, terrible take. Cause Lamar done won him, Lamar done won him one.

• 55:13Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 55:14Channing Crowder?

  And Kyler now got released and he's a, he's the size of a Tic Tac box. Yeah, so terrible take, terrible take. Lamar got him, got him one and Kyler's not there. What about the Jamarcus Russells? What about the Deion Jordans? What about the Ryan Leaves? What about the guys that you're talking about it? They're paid to evaluate people and they're wrong on them. So I did laugh and your hair was different. You had that little sponge fro.

• 55:44Ryan Clark?

  Covid, dog. I wasn't going to the barber like talking about.

• 55:48Channing Crowder?

  I didn't even see what the caption said. I saw your sponge fro and I was like, look at I see the sponge fro. But man, you have to make takes every single day. It's dudes that have 365 days to evaluate the draft to mess up. So I give you a pass and I know Nika give you a pass.

• 56:03Fred Taylor?

  It's crazy how they pull the receipts. We just need a segment called Ryan's Receipt. Cause there's so much out there, right? You can be either way. It can go either way. But just looking at this really quick, RC, I can probably see why you felt that way. 2020, Kyler Murray almost had 4,000 yards, 26 touchdowns, 12 interceptions. And Lamar only had 2,700 yard passing. That's a 12, 1300 yard difference. So I can see if we're saying they're trending in this direction. So it only makes sense. But Kyler Murray's had a huge fall off since 2021. The injuries, the lack of production and all that different stuff. And it seems that since he got paid in 22, he just disappeared.

• 56:47Fred Taylor?

  He tried to fight back, but even last year for Jacoby Brissette to come back and have a better season in one year than Kyler has had in seven years there is kind of crazy. So rightfully, from a business standpoint, it's only right that, you know, the Cardinals make the move that they're making, which I believe is the right move.

• 57:08Channing Crowder?

  Quickly, give Kyler Murray Derrick Henry. Put Lamar Jackson to Arizona with multiple coaches. What happens?

• 57:13Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I'm gonna say this. First off, people keep posting the video about what I said about taking Kyler over Lamar in 2020, like I said that yesterday. It's on like all these new sites, woo woo woo woo woo. If I said it yesterday, dummies, clearly I'm stupider than I look. And I'm sure I looked stupid some damn time. Bro, at that time, Kyler was leading in the MVP conversation in the middle of the season. Lamar wasn't having his best year. And I was like, man, I think Kyler can continue to progress and become this passer with Cliff Kingsbury. I was wrong. So effing what? Y'all post it like I just said it, which is cool because it lets me know I'm on your mind.

• 57:54Ryan Clark?

  I ain't been to work in three weeks, but we want to post that. Good for damn you. Hope it brings you a lot of engagement. Right? Because most of your little profiles, I don't even know. I don't even know them. And a dude sent it to me, he DM'd me, and he was like, bro, he actually told me. He was like, I just like to send this to you from time to time. I think it's funny. And I was like, I think it's sad. I'm gonna go continue my day. The, the thing is now for Kyler though, what you gonna do next, bro? What you gonna do now? Right? People didn't want to draft you and they talked about it being a risky draft pick because of your size. But you had a guy who was supposed to be your guy. Then you had another guy.

• 58:38Ryan Clark?

  And now they're getting rid of you as they get a new coach. What are you gonna do? But as far as my take, hell, I stand on it. I had to pick a side, I picked the side. Such is life.

• 58:47Fred Taylor?

  Your take is your take, man. You have a lot of beautiful takes, bro. And people don't realize what you've said about Lamar Jackson since then. But the question, the answer is Kyler is making 37 million dollars on his day off.

• 59:02Ryan Clark?

  You know what Tua's making this year? 54, 99 million dollar cap hit. They just throwing money. Daniel Jones, 37. Transition tag or something. Stupid money's getting thrown around right now. It seemed like a weak quarterback class. Everybody trying to find Sam Darnold, fellas. I'm telling you, because it's, who is it? It's Malik Willis, it's Tua, it's Kyler. They don't impress me. Everybody's looking for the next Sam Darnold. I don't know if you can find the next Sam Darnold. Well, that's been a Pivot Friday. Just know, you big dummies, I said that six years ago. Just saying.

• 59:39Fred Taylor?

  With the sponge, bro.

• 59:41Ryan Clark?

  Still is wrong.

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