One Developer Got Thousands of Users Before His App Launched

Naveen Naidu built an app that found product-market fit backwards. Most apps launch first and then try to find users. Monologue, Naveen’s AI voice dictation app that came out of beta yesterday, did the opposite. It built a following of thousands of users during its incubation period at Every—many of them switching over from venture capital-backed competitors—all while the app barely had a landing page. The growth has continued in the 24 hours since launch, with an average of 1 million words being transcribed weekly, and in this episode of AI & I, we sit down with Naveen to talk about his journey as the single engineer behind a viral app. We get into the false starts and side projects that taught Naveen how to ship fast, the brutal feedback that kept Monologue honest, why Every decided to build in a crowded category, and the AI coding tools that let one developer do the work of a team. Get free early access to Amazon's Alexa Plus: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCCNHWV5?ref_=aucc_us_dis_everyalexa_q3_25 Timestamps: 00:01:27 – Introduction 00:03:51 – A live demo of Monologue 00:06:27 – Hard lessons from Naveen’s years in the wilderness 00:12:29 – Building a muscle to ship fast 00:21:11 – The spark that became Monologue 00:26:09 – Dogfooding your way to a killer feature 00:29:45 – Why the harshest product feedback is the most valuable 00:31:47 – Every’s strategy for launching an app in a crowded space 00:40:08 – Giving Monologue the Every “smell” 00:45:09 – Naveen’s one-person AI stack to build beautiful apps If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! Want even more? Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free. To hear more from Dan Shipper: Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper Links to resources mentioned in the episode: https://www.monologue.to/

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• 0:00Dan Shipper?

  We built an AI app that had a thousand daily active users and 2,000 in MRR before it even launched. It's called Monologue and it's a text to speech app built by every entrepreneur in residence, Naveen and I do. Naveen built Monologue by himself, end to end, and we just launched it yesterday. And it's one of the fastest growing and stickiest AI products we've ever built. Naveen and Monologue are so compelling because he's a single engineer competing with companies that have raised over $50 million and have hundreds of employees. And because of AI, he was able to build an incredibly polished, incredibly sticky and compelling AI app in just a few months. So I brought Naveen onto the show along with every COO, Brandon Gell, to talk about Monologue and talk about his journey.

• 0:44Dan Shipper?

  Because Monologue is something of an overnight success, but it took Naveen a long time to get there. So we talk about Naveen's entrepreneurial journey, we talk about how he joined Every and the time he spent iterating and shipping on new ideas before he found Monologue. And then we talk about the stack he uses to build and ship production-grade apps by himself as a solo AI developer. Naveen is incredible and if you really want to understand what is possible if you use AI tools well, this is the episode to watch. Let's dive in.

• 1:27Dan Shipper?

  Naveen and Brandon, welcome to the show.

• 1:31Speaker 01

  Hey Dan, hey Brendan.

• 1:36Dan Shipper?

  It's really good to have you.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm really happy. This is like first time recording a podcast for me and that to doing it like, you know, Dan, which I've been following for past five years. So dream come true here for me.

• 1:50Dan Shipper?

  Oh, that makes me so happy. I'm glad, I'm glad this could be your first podcast for, for a lot of different reasons. And just so happy to have been working with you for, for, for the last year or so. So for people who don't know. You are an EIR at Every and you are the GM of Monologue, which is a smart dictation app which we are launching publicly very soon. By the time this episode is out, I believe Monologue will be fully publicly released. It's currently in beta and it's like, it's so, it's such a cool product. It's so well made. It's a product that everyone uses internally. You've done an incredible job with it. You've built it completely by yourself and it's already over a thousand dollars a month in recurring revenue. It's a thousand MRR without us even launching it. So it's just, it's just growing. It's so cool. How does that feel?

• 2:37Speaker 01

  It just like feels, I'm first of all like really grateful just to like, you know, work with Every because the thousand MRR thing, I think if you're a normal indie hacker, just reaching that milestone just takes you years upon years. Just here for me, having this Every audience, having you and every team behind is just like, I think, dream team for me. And obviously like product needs to work. Everything needs to like, you need to solve a proper problem there. But yeah, I'm really like excited, nervous. Everything is happening at the same time.

• 3:14Dan Shipper?

  I love that. And, and we also have Brandon here. Brandon is now the COO of Every. The last time you were on this podcast, you were only the head of studio. How does it feel?

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Feels great. I'm, I'm, uh, yeah, I'm echoing what Naveen said, dream come true with the dream team.

• 3:32Dan Shipper?

  I love it.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  Building dream products.

• 3:35Dan Shipper?

  So I want to start, I want to talk about, a little bit about your journey to Monologue. But before we do that, Naveen, can you just like demo us Monologue? So people who are listening and watching can get a sense for like the thing that you built.

• 3:48Speaker 01

  Yes, let me share my screen. So first I'll talk about like writing an email and we can get into how Monologue visuals and other stuff as well. So let's say I want to write an email to Kieran. Kieran is GM of Cora and he's a video of Monologue. So I'm like, Monologue sits on your laptop, like on your screen here. And I'm using my hotkey, which is right side option. And I'm double tapping it, which is going to be hands-free mode. Hey, Kieran, how is it going? Can we meet up tomorrow around 8am? Actually make it 9am? And if that doesn't work, maybe you can check my availability here. Thank you, Naveen.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  So I just tapped right side option key again. And here, the cool thing is, the Kiran name, like, it understands I'm talking to Kiran. It it's good. And then here it fixed. I mentioned about saying eight AM, but I later self corrected and made it nine AM. And then here, there's something weird happening, like, how did this link got attached here? So that is because in Monologue, we have instructions. Where here I mentioned my calendar schedule link. So it just understands you really well. So you can just like write with zero edits. So this is just one of the examples, but you can take this add to when you're talking to L L Ms,

• 5:15Speaker 01

  when you're talking to other use cases as well.

• 5:20Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, it's really cool. So yeah, for people who are listening, like, basically, all he did was he talked into his computer mic. And what Monologue did it did is it transcribed it into a really well formatted email that included his calendar link and took out like ums and ahs and self corrected certain things that he corrected. And it has like, it's honestly become the default way that pretty much all of us do work at every. Very quickly, which is really cool. It's it's similar in a lot of ways to like, you know, Whisper Flow or Super Whisperer, which is something we can talk about as part of this. I think like, the thing that, the way that we've been talking about it, which I really love is, it it types what you meant to say.

• 6:04Dan Shipper?

  And that whole thing has been like, really, really cool. What I wanna, what I wanna ask, though, is like, you have this really polished product. It's a, it's, it's growing week over week. People are using it all the time. Like, I think there's someone who used it like over a thousand times last week or something like that. Like, it's, it's pretty crazy how good it is. But you're actually in the, even, even though you were working with us for a while, you're in the wilderness for a long time. So like, you became an E I R. We, I think we had our first conversation, you said, like, about a year ago, almost exactly a year ago. And it took you from then until now to like, find this and have it be like, ready to launch. So what was that like? Like, what was it like coming into every? And what was it like, kind of like, going through the wilderness?

• 6:49Dan Shipper?

  And how did you get here?

• 6:51Speaker 01

  So yeah, it took me some time to get here. Maybe quick intro tip journey would be I quit my job around twenty twenty three, right after I think chat G P T A P I got released.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  Good time to quit your job.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I like there is this, you know, pending loom or like something big is happening in the industry. Kind of a feeling you can see chat G P T I think got released in December twenty twenty two. And they released an A P I in twenty, uh, March twenty twenty three. I like vividly remember that because that's like one of the pivotal moments for me. So, yeah, like I quit my job.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  How did you get the conviction to quit your job in that moment?

• 7:37Speaker 01

  Uh, not really. So what happened is in my previous company, I didn't get the conviction. I am like really nervous. Like I didn't know what I was doing. So in my previous, like I had this deal with my boss, previous boss saying, okay, I'm going to work three days a week with you and rest of the four days, let me figure out what I want to do with my life. Or like what I want to do next. And he is like more than happy to give me, like he's paying me full time salary. He paid me full time salary during that three months period, but I still only worked for three days and rest of the four days. I just like kept on like, you know, what to do. And only then I think chat G P T A P I got released, right? So I started hacking products around the same time I released this app called Friday G P T.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  So it like, that's my first time hitting some, some random stranger giving me money to buy an app. So that made a big difference and I'm like, okay, I had to do this.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  How did that feel?

• 8:35Speaker 01

  That is like, you know, I never met that guy. I don't even know who he is, right? But that's a really great feeling that, okay, I can earn something of my own just from this pure. Like the idea is just in my mind. I thought about that. I made it executed and someone paid for it. That's like eye opening for me. And I thought, okay, I had to do this full time, right? So I just quit and then started my own company, came back to India, actually. Before I used to live in Jhapan. So I like made pretty big differences around twenty twenty three. And yeah, after that, I started my company and I started working on.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  Multiple bunch of products. And one of the biggest mistakes I made during that time is I just worked on one product for six months or something. I didn't even release. So it's just like sitting on my laptop. So that's called Send Wisely. And like.

• 9:35Speaker 02

  What product was it again?

• 9:36Speaker 01

  It's an email marketing tool, like similar to kit.com.

• 9:40Speaker 02

  Okay. This is like the cardinal thing. I've never even seen this product that you've built.

• 9:44Speaker 01

  I didn't even talk to anyone about that because I I'm like really ashamed. I'm ashamed that I built that in my like, you know, just on my sitting everyday sitting, going to coffee shop or something, building that. And I never showed anyone. And I didn't do anything at all with it. I just like kept on building, kept on adding features. And that made me like, you know, technically, I'm like able to just play around with tech stuff, but never really actually, you know, went into business. Okay, I had to sell it, I had to market this. I never thought about all that stuff. But later on, okay, whatever is done is done. Let me just start again from scratch. So I again went back to the drawing board.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  I made a Mac app. And here this time I had a goal. I have to release this Mac app in one week. So I built it, I posted it on Reddit. And then a lot of people wanted to have a similar kind of problem. And then they also wanted it. It's kind of like wrapper, ChatGPT wrapper. But the thing is, you can select a text, a text, and hit a hotkey, and you can run a prompt on top of it. So that's just, idea is very simple. So like a lot of people are going back and forth in ChatGPT and doing the same thing, right? Maybe fix grammar or some other thing. So selected text.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  It's the funny thing is, that's such a good idea. You know, like that that idea, there are, I mean, Ed Edmar, a different, you know, E I R, you know, every team member messaged me yesterday, saying that there's a company that like wants to talk to us. It's a, they do thirty million dollars out of Brazil, and it's just a ChatGPT wrapper. You can ask the same exact questions that you ask ChatGPT, but also in this tool, and they do thirty million A R R. So that idea very well could have been your idea, like what what? And I know it, I know people bought it. So what what caused you to sort of lose steam on it?

• 11:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it it it did like really great job for me, like at least with the confidence. At one point, I even reached five K per month. I'm like that my that my like Mac app is making five K. That's like you peak, charge P D, like you know, rapper season. So I'm making ton of money and getting good eyeballs on it. Uh, but one mistake I made is user have to bring their own API key for it. So it's a very niche product and it's a one time fee. So if user have to pay at that time thirty nine dollars or twenty nine dollars, I don't exactly remember. So that's a niche product and it kind of like after that, I don't know what to do. So I started, okay, let me build another Mac app so that I can bring in more revenue.

• 12:28Speaker 01

  So I built another Mac app called Screen Time Plus. And then slowly, like I started hacking a lot of side projects and stuff, but nothing really like, okay, this is going to be my next five years. It's just I'm making some random apps and the only thing that I got really good at or compounding wise is I'm able to build apps really fast. And then only build that one single core feature and like post it on Reddit, post it on X, get eyeballs, convert them to sales. But I don't really have any solid business plan of, okay, how can I take this to next level? And that's when I met you guys like and joined as E I R.

• 13:09Dan Shipper?

  Hmm, that's really interesting. You're saying so many things that feel very familiar from my own journey and and I'm just like, this is why I love working with you. Like, that's why you're awesome. Um, like just things that like lessons that I learned too along the way, like, um, for example, one of the things you said is that you just negotiated with your with your boss to like take four day, like only work three days a week rather than like having to quit your job all at once. Like, I think there's this sort of feeling that, oh, you have to do startups in a certain way and you have to be all in from the very beginning. But there's, there's a lot to be said for like stepping, like putting your toe in the water and like, you know, shipping, learning to ship apps like while you still have a job. So you have more more runway and less pressure. Now, the thing you said that I that I I really resonate with is, um.

• 13:54Dan Shipper?

  Well, one is working on something for like a long period of time and then not shipping it. And then realizing that was bad and then really forcing yourself to be like, okay, I'm gonna ship every, I'm gonna ship something in one week. I'm gonna like build all these different apps. And I think that's a really good part of the of the learning experience is just like go from nothing to an app that you're trying to sell instead of like being off in your cave, like hacking away on something that like no one, no one actually wants. Um, yeah, so I definitely vibe with that.

• 14:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, like that's a big, I think, uh, like bulb turning on moment for me, which is, oh, I can just do things. Like just have a small idea, just code it up, release it. And it doesn't have to be like, oh, a lot of features have to be there or billing has to be there. I just figured it on the way. So like, that's a big, I think, mental shift for me. So that during that time.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  I I was, I was thinking about how, um, I wonder if people, when they work on something that's like, they haven't shared with anybody, a lot of times it's for a product that they themselves can't immediately use and don't actually like immediately use themselves versus if it's something that they actually use themselves. They're excited to share it with people.

• 15:09Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  And that's kind of a good indicator. And it's honestly the way that we build products is we won't build anything that we don't use all the time. It's sort of like a rule, an unwritten rule that we now have. Because it'll never, it'll never launch, I guess, is what we're learning.

• 15:27Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, and it's the best way to know that the product you're building is good. Cause like we just, if we use it and then we get the rest of the team to use it, we're pretty sure that the audience is gonna like it. And that's just a really cool loop. And I think we're in this, um, we're in this unique time where the game board has been reset because of AI. So there's all of these new opportunities to do new stuff that, um, you can just look for problems that you have personally. And if you have that problem, there's a good chance that other people have it and that it hasn't been solved yet, which is really, really cool.

• 15:58Speaker 02

  That's kind of a good segue, kind of a good segue to like how Monologue came about too. Because my, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is we were built, we were launching, um,

• 16:12Dan Shipper?

  TLDR.

• 16:14Speaker 01

  No, okay, let me give you a quick timeline, maybe, yeah, just to refresh. So I joined last year, October, so that's the last quarter of last year. And I started working on TLDR. It's kind of like synthetic podcast generation from your meetings, Slack, Discord. It just turns everything and converts into a beautiful like podcast that you can listen.

• 16:38Dan Shipper?

  Ah, TLDR, those were the days.

• 16:43Dan Shipper?

  I still get pitches for people to do that. I'm like, we tried it, bro. Doesn't work. We launched it like like for Christmas on this like crazy chaotic schedule where we launched like four things in a row. Yeah. Actually, it did fairly well, but there was, I don't know, it was, anyway. Yeah, maybe we positioned it the wrong way. I don't want to accuse anybody of positioning it the wrong way, but. Me and Brandon had a big fight before it came out and he was, all say with a record, he was correct. About how we should position it. I went a little galaxy brain, but anyway. I don't know, it would have worked that way. Yeah.

• 17:18Speaker 01

  So for me, like from my side, what happened really is, I think it didn't really sync well with our every, every audience. No one, to be honest, I think I worked on that for 10 weeks. Internally, no one really used it, like no one is listening to those podcasts, no one is reading those meeting notes and stuff. So, and even when we released it, I think as every, like we have this every audience, right? So they're also like, okay, this is cool, but I'm not going to use this. Obviously, like kind of a vibe we got.

• 17:44Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 17:44Speaker 01

  So after that, I took some time off, like two weeks, I didn't touch my laptop. I'm like, you know, I continuously worked on 10 weeks for the, on this product and I did the same mistake. Like I previously did one year ago, which is just working on something which I didn't like put it out fast, real fast. So coming back after the holidays, I made myself, okay, I'm going to release one experiment per week. I went, I remember Brandon having a KPI as well for that quarter where experiments from, from studios, like number of experiments from studios. And that really helped me also, okay, I'm not going to worry about creating products and stuff. I'm going to just think about creating as many experiments as possible.

• 18:28Speaker 01

  So after that, I did Kairos. A lot of, every audience might remember Kairos, they love it.

• 18:34Dan Shipper?

  People love that, yeah.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's an AI book reading app and. Even before launching, we got to know, oh yeah, this doesn't really have commercial success because you have to actually sell the books within the app to make any kind of money. If not, how are you going to make money? Like, people are not going to pay you twenty dollars on top of already buying books. So that didn't work out, but people loved it, people loved that. I still get like emails and messages saying they like it and they kind of like try to include that into their reading habits. And after that, I started working on Grammarly Alternative. That is because I'm like from India and

• 19:14Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I forgot all of these.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  You guys, you remember it now?

• 19:21Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, now I do. It's all coming back. Yeah, I blacked that out from my brain.

• 19:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. So after that, I did that experiment where, you know, I'm from India and my English is not that great when I'm writing. So I use Grammarly a lot, but Grammarly is really slow, it's shitty. To be honest, someone has to make a better product here. So I asked around the team, Kieran is paying for it, Yash is paying for it, so I am paying for it. Why not? Why can't I take this up? So I took that up. I actually first started with iOS app. So within one week, I released the iOS app. We even emailed some of early adopters. We put up a form. It's going well, but the energy of that app, like to be like overall usage is good. It's going in the right direction. It's just that energy around

• 20:12Speaker 01

  this idea is not that great. Because, okay, this is already like you're solving like twenty years old problem, kind of, you know, thing people are not really excited to.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Like your energy or the or users' energy? Which one?

• 20:25Speaker 01

  Everyone's energy, I would say.

• 20:28Speaker 02

  It didn't feel like a creative act. It just felt like we were like solving very specific problems.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:36Speaker 02

  I wasn't sure how we were gonna like make something mind blowing there.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that's the same thing.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  But I remember thinking, this is such a good idea.

• 20:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think we released an iOS app. I think at one point we got like two hundred users using it, using the keyboard, actually changing their own default keyboard. And we also have a Mac app where it highlights the corrections and you can correct it. So technically, we invested a lot of stuff in there. But it's just I didn't feel like people are like adopting it that fast, that high. Yeah, so during during that time, so what happened is

• 21:17Speaker 01

  I'm like pretty low, I'm like not motivated to work on Android. I just want some some new fresh idea. So on the side, I didn't tell anyone on the side. I just made Jotl, like at that time, that's a working name of Monologue. So I just made that app for myself and I just started using it.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  Why did you make it? Like what like what was the thing where you're like, oh, I just wanna like mess around with this? And I won't tell anyone, but this is kind of fun.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, like when I joined the program, like with every one of the ideas is whisper flow alternative, but better. That's one of the things that's on my like.

• 21:55Speaker 02

  That was on the list. Too bad you didn't put that higher on the list. I don't think I don't think we were ready for it. I have comments on this, but you keep going with with the timeline.

• 22:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. So what happened is, yeah, I have that idea. It's like itching me, you know? And other thing, Edmar, one of the users of Android, and he's also here. So he mentioned, I want this voice to text in keyboard. Can you do that? And I got a similar kind of request from other users, and I also want that. And other thing is, the one of the previous apps I talked about, Friday GPT, it has that feature. But I already know users are actually like using voice and how they are like it's helping them a lot. So I talked with a couple of users and the thing is it's not great product.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  Like two years ago that I built, it's not really great product. So I just, okay, let me make a really great product with all the things I learned because now I feel like I'm really confident with my technical skills, product skills. So I just like thrown away everything and just started the code from scratch. I'm like just looking at my commit history. Are you interested in looking at commit history? Sure. Yeah, absolutely. All right, let me.

• 23:15Dan Shipper?

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• 24:35Speaker 01

  So officially, it's called like now, one look Mac app, but

• 24:45Speaker 01

  I started it in April, I think.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  So for people who are listening, basically, Naveen is paging through his commit history. And what's really interesting about this is, okay, so you started working on this app in April. It's now September, so it really has not been a long time and you are one person. And this is like a beautiful production ready app that you've done everything for that like hundreds or maybe thousands of people are using every day. It's, it's pretty cool.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I think it's just the compounding, right? If anyone out there who is like looking to like start or create a startup or create a product and stuff. One thing I would say is just keep on building, keep on like creating as many experiments as possible. Because once you hit that one great idea, you can just release it in two days. You can see the commit history, right?

• 25:43Speaker 02

  So try what we're seeing on the commit history.

• 25:45Speaker 01

  Okay, so I started like my initial commit here is like April 15th.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  And I did like a bunch of changes, a bunch of things. And on April 17th, I have V 1.0.1.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  So in two days, I released it. So yeah.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  And there's something that I just saw that's interesting in there. You have a commit in there for auto-enter, which I think is like one of people's favorite features of monologue, where you can, you can speak into monologue and it automatically will process what you say, fix it and then automatically paste it and click enter, which if you are a developer, allows you to really stay in flow because you can just speak and you don't need to like use your keyboard at all. I use it for on Discord, I use it in messages, I use it in Warp.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  And that was, I think I saw that on the 11th, or was that the 17th that you committed that?

• 26:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, 17.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  Okay, so it's like, it's one of the most important differentiating features and it's one of the first things you built. And it, to me, it just is a nice, it just tells me, okay, you just need like one killer feature to really convince yourself and see if people really want to use what you're building. And then a lot of the work that you've done is like polish and fixing bugs and adding things here or there. But like, a lot of the product was there the day that you launched it.

• 27:15Dan Shipper?

  So you can have like a simple product that works super well, but that last twenty percent is like so hard.

• 27:21Speaker 01

  A lot. Yeah, hundred percent. So at that time, what I'm doing is on fifteenth, I built that and I started using Jotl at that time to build Jotl. You know, I've been dog footing, uh, like the auto enter thing came because ah, why am I like always hitting enter? Why can't like Jotl do that for me? So I just added that. Uh, so kind of like all the features that first two days that you see is uh, add on that.

• 27:51Dan Shipper?

  That's the beautiful thing about building for yourself is you know that that's what you want. And also it's the beautiful thing about building inside of a company like every because you've just been like flooded with people saying like, I need this or this isn't working or whatever. And so you have this like really, really high fidelity feedback loop all the time of good feedback.

• 28:08Speaker 01

  Yes, hundred percent. So after that, what happened like two days, I pushed it. On eighteenth, we have this show and tell on Fridays. So I think that's one of the like fun meetings we usually like, we have a ton of high signal feedback, we get high signal feedback there. So I did the demo of Unright, I'm like pretty, you know, like not that feeling great about the progress I'm making with Unright. Then at the end, like maybe five minutes or ten minutes remaining, I demoed this app. But like, I've been like working past two days on this. And like Kieran got really excited about this. I, I don't remember like everyone else, like to, I just remember Kieran's reaction.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Because Kieran also has his own Python script, like some crappy version of it. He mentioned he uses his local whisper thing. So, and Kieran got excited, I got excited. So I just released the app to Kieran, like, I think right there, I just sent him the bill directly. And the next feature he asked is, I need local whisper models, because he likes local whisper models. So I just added that feature for Kieran. And slowly Nitesh started using, Alex started using, Brandon, like that, everyone started using, everyone started giving me feedback. And then I just like, like, yeah, off to races, that's it.

• 29:29Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, this was really exciting time and I'm laughing to myself because I remember.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  I remember feeling, I'm gonna go back to sort of like, why we felt like we're gonna do this, and this is like an easy decision, but I wanted to like a quick anecdote. I remember we like created a Discord channel and and Kiran hit a bug where like it wasn't working for him. And he sent you a message that I honestly will never forget. He said, "Immediate churn", with a screenshot and

• 30:02Dan Shipper?

  Classic Kiran.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, like I love him. He's like, "He pushes you really hard." He just, he said, "Immediate churn", and I just looked at that and I was like, "Holy shit, he's right." This is immediate churn. And just saying it so bluntly, I think, and that's sort of, you know, a version of the feedback that you get from everybody here, I think has made it like a pretty bulletproof product. But yeah, I'll never forget, "Immediate churn."

• 30:27Dan Shipper?

  That's funny.

• 30:28Speaker 02

  I want on a hat.

• 30:30Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, go for it.

• 30:31Speaker 01

  No, I take Kiran's like feedbacks real seriously because I think he's like the top 1%, 10% users where, you know, if they hit a bug, you immediately churn. If I keep Kiran happy, I'm going to keep like a ton of people happy.

• 30:49Dan Shipper?

  I just, I just submitted a PR on Quora, which he denied. So like, I know the bar, the bar for Kiran is pretty high. He was like, "This is vibe-coded." I was like, "You're right, it is."

• 31:01Speaker 02

  Which is crazy because he's the number one vibe coder. He's just like, he's, he's wielded it so well that now he thinks he's the one coder.

• 31:09Dan Shipper?

  I, I think this is an interesting product for me too, because it is the first product that we've incubated inside of Every that I have not either built the first version of, or been like intimately involved in the building of. It was the first product where like, I was just off doing other stuff and I just saw a bunch of people talking on Discord about this. At the time it was called Jotl and then we renamed it Monologue. And I was like, "I guess I'll try it." And I tried it and I was like, "Whoa, this is good." And that was like the coolest, that is the coolest feeling ever, I have to say, to just feel like we're making awesome stuff and I just like had nothing to do with it. So it was, it was just really fun to watch that happen.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  I want to talk real quick about like the like the strategy behind it. So there was, there was obviously like, Naveen, you built the first version of it. And I remember in that show and tell, I was, I had sort of an unlock and was like, we need to do this. But the reason that I felt like we needed to do it, even though it felt kind of wrong, because like there were other companies that were already existed that were doing this. And typically, all the products that we built have been like net new products. It was very hard to come, to get over the idea that we weren't going to build something new. We were just going to try to take in a concept that already existed and make it better.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  But the reason that like I got so comfortable with that and actually reached out to Dan and was like, dude, we have to do this immediately. And you were like, maybe, and then you used it and you were like, I'm totally in, was I realized that people subscribe to every because they want it to be the last, they want to be super up to speed on, on AI and they want to use our individual products. But what we want for them is that it's their last subscription that they have outside of a chat GPT or Claude. So they have a chat GPT subscription and an every subscription. And I realized voiced very, very good voice dictation is one of the main tools that people are using.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  And we're actually doing some subscribers a disservice if we don't include this as a part of their bundle. We just need to figure out a way to do it that feels right to us. And, and sort of like levels up the whole industry.

• 33:19Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 33:20Speaker 02

  Which, you know, you started this in April, we're recording this September 10th. I think we've done that over the past many months. It's taken a long time to get it to be like really, really good.

• 33:30Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, I think that was my hesitation too is like, I wanted to only release this if we felt like it felt like in every product, like it felt like ours instead of just, you know, we just vibe coded something and it's like kind of a shitty thing. And I really do feel that way, like you're, you're an absolute craftsman, Naveen. It's, it's a beautiful product.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Thank you. I appreciate that. So yeah, I too had that in mind, like, because then even when I presenting that, I remember, I know this is like already existing product, like I'm just, I just made it for myself. Like, don't like, you know, be, this is my baby, don't be harsh, kind of.

• 34:09Speaker 01

  When I'm presenting it, but once you know, like Brandon talked about this, like, don't worry about like copycats like being that like, you know, uh, because we have already ton of every audience. If no one else is subscribing, you're going to anyway get these every subscribers who are going to like use it. So just focus on every subscribers. But don't worry too much about like external, like you being competing with that initial period. So that actually made a little bit, you know, okay, I can actually make this work because I can just focus on every audience. Let's try to like, you know, make it really good app. So that put me at ease because I don't want to like people to think like

• 34:53Speaker 01

  I'm just copying something.

• 34:55Dan Shipper?

  Totally. And this is the first time that I felt like the bundle strategy that we've been pushing for a long time. It's like starting to like really work. So for you who who don't know, whatever you pay one price, you get access to the all the writing that we do and all the software that we make. And um, it makes so much more sense to build monologue in the context of a bundle because um, you know, when you're, if you're comparing, okay, I can buy one app or I can buy a subscription and get like a bunch of apps plus like really good writing about AI. It makes that

• 35:31Speaker 01

  The value.

• 35:31Dan Shipper?

  That calculus, yeah, that calculus makes a lot, makes a lot more sense. And um, it's just been, it's been really interesting to watch that happen because it, I didn't even think that this, we would be building something like monologue as part of this strategy, but it just seems to work.

• 35:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And that, uh, that strategy really helped the way monologue right now is this because uh, what happened is April is done. Maybe I can show like initial periods because the uncertainty.

• 35:58Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, show us, show us the usage and.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. So the usage here is that like I keep track of two things, which is the number of words that you're getting dictated and number of times that, you know, monologue. Got activated. So initial time, I I just walk you through that initial period, right? Uh, seventeenth, eighteenth, like April. And then I gave access. I I started adding like analytics the following week because people have been using it a lot internally. And here you can see this is not my usage. I removed my usage because I do a bunch of testing, right? Initial period. So this is somewhere like we got one thirty users per day. Slowly it started, it went to one fifty, two hundred, like three hundred, three fifty.

• 36:44Dan Shipper?

  And also, yeah. This is the number of times that somebody clicked the button to start dictating?

• 36:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 36:51Dan Shipper?

  Okay, cool.

• 36:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:53Dan Shipper?

  And for people who are listening, like, yeah, it's just a smoothly, it's a graph that is smoothly going up. And this is a usage graph, which is very hard to do. I mean, obviously, there's there's jag, there's it's it's a little jagged for like weekends and stuff. But I think it's really important to say, um, we we work on a lot of products. We've all built a lot of products over our lives and uh seeing something that just like smoothly goes up in usage is extremely rare.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, here you can see the week over week graph like which is like uh initial week we got two thirty. But slowly, end of May, we are hitting around fifteen hundred.

• 37:32Dan Shipper?

  Fifteen hundred users per week?

• 37:33Speaker 01

  Uh, usages per week.

• 37:35Dan Shipper?

  Usage, okay, got it.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think we are hitting around twenty seven, eighteen. Like, these are all internal users. So twenty, yeah, this is all every internal. If you want, maybe we might have to blur out the emails here.

• 37:49Dan Shipper?

  This is only to June, right? Yeah, show us the full graph.

• 37:54Speaker 01

  And oh, full graph?

• 37:56Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  Let me, yeah, today.

• 38:02Speaker 01

  We might have to blur out the emails.

• 38:03Dan Shipper?

  Oh, wow.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, look at this.

• 38:06Dan Shipper?

  Even better.

• 38:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  Try to be hitting 7,000 usages per day.

• 38:11Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, I mean, this is crazy.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  Per day.

• 38:13Dan Shipper?

  It's this isn't even linear.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  There's no landing page for this product.

• 38:17Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, like, Naveen, show us the landing page.

• 38:22Speaker 01

  This is the landing.

• 38:23Dan Shipper?

  So for people who are listening, it literally just says monologue and then download. And then it says, please don't use this because it's a public beta.

• 38:32Dan Shipper?

  And it has a little made by every sticker at the bottom. So, yeah, that's that's crazy. And it makes me very confident in this in this product.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  And people are, okay, so the other thing that's crazy, too, is there are a bunch of competitors. A lot of them have raised millions of dollars.

• 38:50Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  Like, we have a competitor, Whisperflow, that's raised like $50 million. We have invested in this product less than $20,000 in one person. Naveen is building this product alone.

• 39:02Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 39:03Speaker 02

  We should talk like a little bit about like how we have supported you with a bunch of other like people to like really make this super artful. But I just think that that's crazy. And it's one of the it's one of the most obvious proof points to me that we just live in a different world. And raising $50 million to do something is not only unnecessary, it puts you in such a corner.

• 39:28Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 39:29Speaker 02

  Like, like, we have already built something that is successful.

• 39:33Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Period.

• 39:34Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 39:34Speaker 02

  Because we can build really quick, Naveen's really talented, and we haven't invested a stupid amount of money into it. And it doesn't need to be a billion dollar outcome. It could be like, I mean, at this point, this will be a multimillion dollar outcome. And and I feel like we have that in the bag.

• 39:52Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 39:52Speaker 02

  And that's really special to like build from that place because you're building from your fun foot instead of like trying to dig yourself out of a hole.

• 39:58Dan Shipper?

  Totally.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  It means we get to like make art, which is worth talking about because this is a very, very artful, kind of like teenage engineering style product.

• 40:08Dan Shipper?

  Can you demo the the welcome screen? Do you have that set up?

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Yes. I know Naveen is so proud of the the onboarding because he has a button that's easily accessible to reset the onboard.

• 40:19Dan Shipper?

  Oh, really?

• 40:22Speaker 01

  I just want people to like, yeah, ju- ju- just go through the onboarding again. So ju- just to set some context around, okay, uh, like what happened is you, uh, I think end of June, Brandon and I like sat down at the, in one of our calls and uh, like, okay, this is working. People are actually using it, but you are look shit, like UX is shit, like we are just like not happy with the way things are. So we immediately bought out like Lucas. So Lucas is our head of like creativity. Yes. So I think having Lucas on a project like this, just from start, just I think made ton of like, you know, dishes,

• 41:06Speaker 01

  whatever dishes that you are seeing within the product happen. So Lucas bought that Lucas energy, every synergy into this monologue from like the start. That's why the way like it works, it is working right now. So let me show you like quick uh, things.

• 41:24Speaker 02

  I remember what, when Naveen and I had this one-on-one, I said,

• 41:29Speaker 02

  this app needs to do three things. It needs to work really well. It needs to look like teenage engineering or something like that. It needs to look really different. What's teenage engineering for you who don't know? Teenage engineering is a hardware company that makes beautiful recording devices, music-making devices, computer cases. They just like have a very cool aesthetic. Um, it needs to look kind of like teenage engineering. It needs to look different and it needs to be a part of the every bundle. And if we do those three things, uh, this product will work. And that seems to be happening right now and, and the way that you executed on the design side is just out of control to me.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  So, hundred percent, like this is one of our inspirations. Uh, and Lucas like worked, uh, and gave us this monophone. We never thought of monophone at all. Like initially, I remember uh, Jotal being just a blob of like text, like just radiating. And like Lucas came up with this monophone idea where, okay, you have to feel like you're talking to something. So that's right. Anyway, let me show you uh, like the onboarding.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  So yeah, so this is the onboarding where you see the like sound and animation. Maybe Brandon can talk more about the sound and everything that we.

• 43:02Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, I just gotta say I love it. And like, we just have so many people reach out being like, that was awesome. Just from just downloading the app and starting it. Like I had someone who's has a fairly big Twitter audience that messaged me being like, this is the first time I've gotten emotional using software in many years. And I was like, fuck, yeah, we've done, we did it. We did it.

• 43:23Speaker 02

  I don't know. We just had such a strong perspective of like, we want the mod. Well, we didn't even know Lucas actually came up with the idea, the word for monophone. So he was like, this is the monophone design was really special. We knew we wanted sound to be really.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  He also came up with the name monologue.

• 43:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, he did. He did come up with the name too. Yeah. We wanted like this, we wanted sounds to be a part of it. So we have like this really cool intro sound that my friend Jake Sheriff made. We brought in a designer to do the app design and the landing page design, which is the first time we've ever done that. We've always done app and landing page design internally. This time we brought somebody else from the outside.

• 44:01Dan Shipper?

  And he's great.

• 44:01Speaker 02

  And he's amazing. And like Lucas did creative direction. He did actual design. And it was like, very special combination. And then we brought in a guy to do animations. So it was just like, also in the middle of this process, I learned that Naveen is like, top zero zero zero point zero zero zero two percent in India at math and science for, you know, whatever cohort you are that test. And, and I, I learned in this process, he's also very good at managing other people.

• 44:34Dan Shipper?

  Which rare combination.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  Very rare combination.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  Thank you. I don't know what to say. So I think it's just like, I feel like I'm in a video game, you know, collecting all these skills so that I can build this monologue. So I think in my previous job, I was managing people. So yeah, I collected that skill and later, like when I'm like, it just like, everything came together nicely here. And yeah.

• 45:02Dan Shipper?

  For people who are watching, I think there's probably a lot of people who are like, wow, this is awesome. I wanna, I wanna start doing this too. Can you tell us a little about like your workflow? What tools are you using? How are you using AI in your workflow? All that kind of stuff?

• 45:16Speaker 01

  Uh, yes. So for the initial stages, the zero to one, it's really, really important for you to just like keep it like just go one single feature and like use AI obviously. And one of the key like uh things I used initially at that time, I remember Winserve. It just feels like ages ago. So I was using.

• 45:39Dan Shipper?

  I know. But it's not again.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I even like it feels like a year ago, like when I've said Winserve. But I'm using Win, I was using Winserve a lot at during that time. And I think Winserve is one of the first ideas to introduce this agentic coding as well, I remember. So my codebase has been getting a lot. So Winserve and right now my text tag looks Claude code a lot, like most of the code that's in monologue is like done by Claude code. And then recently I've been using Codex a lot. So let me show you like Codex, uh, maybe.

• 46:19Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, show us. Yeah, we've never actually shown Codex on this show. Um, except for the, the, we've shown the, we've shown the web version because we had uh the uh, the guy who launched it inside of OpenAI on the show for the launch, but um, we have not, we've not gone there in a while. So yeah, tell us about how you're using Codex.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, let me show you the Codex. Like I think around uh May time, May 18th they released it. And I'm initially got like some errors, but 18th, you can see how many tasks I'm like giving it to Codex.

• 46:49Dan Shipper?

  Basically like every day you have a task because you're just scrolling through a list of tasks for people who are listening and um, yeah, every day you have a little task you're kicking off Codex or maybe it looks like multiple tasks a day, a lot. There's a lot.

• 47:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, like it all depends on my mood as well. Like if I'm in that mood of okay, today I will be in a manager mode. And let me just give a bunch of tasks to all these AIs and like review it. But if I'm in active development mode, I'm going to just like use Codex.

• 47:19Dan Shipper?

  But now it looks like you skipped a month. So why did you not use it for a month?

• 47:23Speaker 01

  Ah, Claude Code, like that made a big difference for me. I think the Opus 4.1 got released. Yeah, I think what happened is I was using this with, I don't remember the models too, like I think O1, O3.

• 47:37Dan Shipper?

  Oh, I think it's O3. It's a, it's a fine tuned O3. Yeah.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, O3, yes. I think during that time it's really great. And after that Opus 4.1 got released and I'm just like completely moved to Claude Code. And now I'm back to again Codex CLI. So actually, like, yeah, here you can see it. I'm not, you can see I'm using Codex actually. Like today I just developed this, like I'm working on this monologue speed test website. And I just made a plan. And within the plan.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, within the plan, we have these phases, phase one, phase two, phase three. And I'm just implementing these phases, phase three, phase nine. Yeah. So I'm just using Codex a lot where GPT-5, high and medium is so good.

• 48:36Dan Shipper?

  Interesting. Yeah. Tell us about why, like why, why did you switch? Why do you think it's better?

• 48:40Speaker 01

  Uh, one, I think 4.1, it's just like I think I got like with Claude Code. It just says like you are absolutely correct, absolutely right. And it doesn't like push back on my, like whenever I'm trying to, you know, get some proper feedback on my implementation. Here, for example, I actually used monologue to dump this. Here you can see like, and it gave me.

• 49:07Dan Shipper?

  And he's just highlighting a bunch of, a bunch of texts where he's asking questions about, about his code base.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it gave me a really great plan. I think planning is really, really good compared to Claude Code. Here, what happens with.

• 49:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, planning and even with the code, one thing I observed is it's actually I have a video as well recorded where I compared Claude code versus code like not Codex but GPT five high or medium. One thing I clearly observed is Codex X works on what you asked. It doesn't go and do some like his own creative. It's much more precise. Yeah, much more precise and the code it generates feels like some senior engineer wrote. Instead of Claude code, it kind of feels like some junior engineer wrote. I know it's a big statement, but it just feels like with ton of comments, with ton of like the logic it writes. It's much more like not well thought out. But if you look at Codex code, yeah.

• 50:09Dan Shipper?

  Yeah, I think you're right. It GPT five code does feel like if I want a precise change and I want to be confident that it's doing the right thing, I can use GPT five and it'll do it well. And so so it's got that precision thing. I think of Claude code as being high in industriousness. So it's just gonna like do a bunch of stuff, which is actually helpful in certain circumstances. So like, for example, I wanted to commit some code to Quora. And so I needed to get my my repo running locally. And Claude code is just really good for that because it's just gonna keep banging its head against the wall until it figures it out. It's very industrious and GPT five will be like, well, I can't do this because I'm, you know, whatever.

• 50:51Dan Shipper?

  There's like fifteen precise things that it that it thinks are wrong, you know, and then you have to go through each one with it. And yeah, so I've been I've been liking I've been liking Codex as well. I'm curious, I've heard that a lot of these models are not that good at writing Swift. So what has been your experience?

• 51:11Speaker 01

  Fun, even during Unwrite development, which is the grammarly alternative that I was working on, it's technically complex. Meaning you have to show this red swiggly lines on top of any app. So that's a very highly technical child like you can't just use some extra library to build that out. So I during that time I was using O one a lot and O one is really, really good. O one and O three mini, I remember being really, really good at writing Swift code and writing highly technical like complex apps. So I always have a soft corner of just for O O series models, the thinking models first shift.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  Because it has that extra like intelligence when compared to any other model on the market. So I'm just like use that a lot. And so if you compare Claude code is really good at implementing the features. Like you can just give it, it does that work and it's good at Swift. Actually, Opus four point five is really good at Swift. I I used it like you can see that. And but code G P T five high like five high. I recently be experiencing experiencing hotkey works like that's a very complicated work because you have to. Like go into niche, like you know, C G event, which is written by Naxt in nineteen eighties.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  Like that's the code that is still being run on Mac, right? And it it has like very, very like bare minimum documentation. But G P T five high is so good at ripping through all this complex code. So I think that's one of the biggest unlock for me. Why I didn't hire another or like get help from other developer.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  It's just so crazy thinking about like before this stuff existed, like solving that problem would be. You might like hire somebody for like a year to solve that. It'd be like a two hundred thousand dollar problem.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  And now it's just not.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  It's so, it's kind of, to me, it almost makes me sad to say because like, there's been so much blood lost over people, you know, and sweat expelled to solve these problems. And now it's like, we live in a world where we, where we're like, nah, that's not a problem.

• 53:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Like before, you used to like, you know, be very scared of these kind of technical problems. Now I'm like, okay, I have GPT-5. I, I don't have to worry.

• 53:43Dan Shipper?

  You got your partner.

• 53:43Speaker 01

  I, I got my partner. I have Opus 4.5. Those are my like team members. I'm going to like, you know, they'll get those tasks to them. So I think that gave me really big confidence boost. Okay, I can do anything I want.

• 53:58Dan Shipper?

  I love that. All right. So we're about to launch Monologue, one that is out and it may actually already be launched. What are your, what are your hopes for it? Where do you hope to be in a year? What would be, what would be a success for you?

• 54:12Speaker 01

  For me, uh, internal goal, uh, we have is in one year, we want to hit one million ARR for Monologue.

• 54:19Dan Shipper?

  Woo. By the way, every as a whole just hit one million or like a little bit more than one million like recently. So that's a big goal. But I honestly, I think we can do it. I definitely think we can do it.

• 54:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. So that's why like biggest goal is to hit one million, uh, ARR. But that's a big goal. Uh, in one year, if we do it, like that would be crazy. But at least for like year quarter for me is like release the iOS app. That's like one thing we are getting lot of, uh, requests around and I want to release that iOS app. It's also technically challenging because Apple doesn't make it easy for us developers. So we had to somehow find loopholes. Uh, iOS and then end of this, uh, uh, year, reach 10K MRR. So that's my goal.

• 55:08Dan Shipper?

  Great. I love it.

• 55:10Speaker 02

  Oh, you're definitely gonna do that.

• 55:11Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  Definitely.

• 55:13Dan Shipper?

  My brain is looking at this right now.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  Right now, I'm looking at the numbers. I think you're gonna do that. We're gonna do more of that.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I think one of the like really cool thing is, you know, every audience just like kind of amplifies it a lot. So I, yeah, it's crazy. And I just love the way we are building because I think it's distribution first. So dad did like really hard work for the last 70 years and I'm just like coming in.

• 55:44Speaker 01

  And yeah.

• 55:46Dan Shipper?

  Just in the content mind for yeah, five and a half years. Yep, it's paying off.

• 55:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, paying off now, so.

• 55:55Dan Shipper?

  Um, well, Naveen, I'm psyched for you. I feel so honored that we get to work with you and that we get to launch Monologue. I think it's going to be amazing and I can't wait to see what comes next.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  Thank you. Thank you. Same here. Like, I'm just like, every day, wake up, waking up, I'm just grateful that I have this team. And I have AI, like with money, and I can do anything, like, like, yeah. Right now, I'm in that zone where if user customer has some kind of problem, we can solve it, so.

• 56:26Dan Shipper?

  I love it.

• 56:26Speaker 02

  What a way to end.

• 56:27Dan Shipper?

  Yeah.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  I can do anything. Awesome, man.

• 56:30Dan Shipper?

  Awesome. Yeah.

• 56:32Speaker 01

  See you.

• 56:40Speaker 03

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