Tee Time Scams at the LA Country Club with Zach Noe Towers

Surprising no one, golf courses remain racist, sexist, and overall just horribly hateful to any non-white, non-cisgendered, queer human hoping to hit the links. While some things have evolved, not all is fair in love and sports. Shaddowy golf brokers are out here stealing tee times! Comedian Zach Noe Towers joins us to talk about one of the most petty schemes to happen at a private club here in Los Angeles. Plus, we take a call from a member of the con-gregation who just barely survives a phone scam. Follow Us: Laci Mosley: divalaci https://www.instagram.com/divalaci/?hl=en Zach Noe Towers: zachnoetowers https://www.instagram.com/zachnoetowers/?hl=en We're on YouTube: Join us on YouTube! See Laci, the guests, and fraudsters: https://www.youtube.com/@ScamGoddess SOURCES: https://www.golfcoursetechnologyreviews.org/blog/how-tee-time-brokering-sparked-outrage-in-los-angeles https://laist.com/news/shadow-tee-time-system-la-public-golf-courses-explained https://newrepublic.com/article/173714/yet-another-golf-scandal-woefully-undertaxed-la-country-club-us-open https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-19/brokers-golf-los-angeles https://ktla.com/news/local-news/city-updates-reservation-policy-against-bots-as-l-a-golfers-still-struggle-to-get-tee-times/ See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:42Speaker 02

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. But one thing's for sure, we'll usually laugh at them, but never at the victims. And I have the pleasure to be hosting with Zach today. He is an LA-based comedian, actor, and writer. You may have seen on Netflix's Dear White People, or is one of the hosts of E! Nightly Pop, and Dating #NoFilter. Zach has opened for Fortune 500 and Taylor Tomlinson, and he can be heard weekly as a regular guest on Jeff Lewis Live. Listen to his sex podcast, Good Sod Pod, wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Zach.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  Hi, how are you? That was so lovely to get the intro locking eyes. I felt like an audience of one. It kind of, I don't know if it freaks me out if I'm giving it locking eyes because I'm like, is it like, like if you're having a funeral and somebody just sitting up in the casket like,

• 3:44Speaker 02

  "You better read it good." And? And what else can I do? And who else can I open for? And what's my pod called? Yeah, exactly. Good Sod Pod, okay? Too funny. All right, now I can rest. Yeah.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Right? Well, I just gotta...

• 4:02Speaker 02

  I feel like we should be able to monitor a little bit of our funerals. Yeah. Like when we get real old, if we're lucky, you know, like there should be... A practice one? Yeah, like there should be like some kind of pre-funeral, like... I want to make my funeral really silly, like, like even like a scavenger hunt for my body. Like, "I'm dead, find me." In the cemetery? Yeah. Like, walk footsteps to the right. Yeah. Past the 18th century baby who died. Yes, yes. I, okay, that's, that's fun, yeah. I want it to be fun, like, obviously funerals are sad, but it's like, I don't know, maybe it's the comic in me. I'm like, don't be sad too long, like, I don't... But they're for the living. So it's like, I want it to be lit, I want everybody to have fun. I kind of want to be there for a little bit of it. Put Molly in the water. Yeah.

• 4:47Speaker 02

  Molly water! Turn up. I want everybody dancing in the cemetery, just lit, okay? That wouldn't be weird for LA, you know, we love to throw a party in a cemetery. Do you go to Cinespia? Yeah. It's my favorite LA thing to do. Yeah. You go to Hollywood Forever Cemetery, you sit on the corpses of dead people. And you watch a classic movie in the cemetery. It's like so fun. And you bring a picnic blanket, you bring like snacks, and like... Yeah, I remember the rose, uh, there was a Mean Girls one that was so fun. We all wore pink, and we had rose. And I'm kind of wondering, like, do you feel like that is scammy at all? That like, these people are being laid to rest here and they have no clue? I have no idea how they've allowed it.

• 5:28Speaker 02

  I have no idea how they got permission from everyone in that... We ain't gonna ask the dead, the people dead there. Can't we do this? But, do you, excuse me? Are you good with it? We gonna set our blanket up right here. But like, it's like, but could you, the loved ones that are still living of the people buried there, it's like, "Oh, and by the way, we're gonna have like a little dance party every Saturday night on your loved one's grave." Yeah, I just don't understand, like, how, what the deal is. Yeah, dancing on the grave used to be an insult. Now we're like, "Monotized dancing on the grave?" Yes, introduced by Gabrielle Union, yes! She introduced Bring It On when I went to see it. Yes, isn't that so fire? Was to come out and be like, "Hello, alive, Andy."

• 6:13Speaker 02

  "We out here." "We out here, you in there." "You in there." "We all outside, some of y'all inside, the ground." Like, I mean, it works, so... It's fun. I mean, I hope that the revenue hopefully assuages some like upkeep costs for the... I was wondering, maybe the deal is like, they keep like the grounds really nice, and they like, I don't know, like power wash the, the headstones. Yeah, because I know you definitely have to have, um, somewhat like pay for some sort of maintenance for, in certain cemeteries and things, which makes no sense to me because it's like, if I'm dead, why am I still paying? Like, what do you mean, I got death rent? Like, what do you mean? Well, we put you in a studio in the ground. Yeah, you still gotta pay property taxes, though. 3% up a year.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  Wait, do you want to be in one piece buried, or cremated, or... I don't want to be chopped up, the way you said that. Actually, that'd be chic. Little coffins with like different parts in it. No, everyone carries the one. And then you send it. Yes. No, no. Like, "I got his, I got his ass." The screw box. That's a heavy one, okay? Thank you. I'm hoping that's the heaviest box, is the ass box, okay? Oh my goodness, yeah, I don't know. Part of me is like, you know, big. I mean, funerals themselves are a scam. Like, it's so expensive, and like, what are you gonna do? And where are you gonna go? Well, Costco. Yeah, Costco does have very cheap coffins. Honey, bury me in the pizza. And you could get it wrapped.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  I saw on TikTok there's a girl who wraps coffins, just like, like cars. Yeah. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Yeah, but then it's like, you got, you got your cute little moment. You know what I heard? You can be turned into a record with like audio on it. I would do that if the audio was like me talking. Yeah, like, "Boo, bitch." "If you playin' this, I'm dead, ooh." "Me and yo' granny talkin' shit about you." But that'd be cool to have like your family in like records all over the wall. That creeps me out, that creeps me out. That creeps me out, as soon as I said that, I was like, "That's weird." "So have your family and records on the wall." Look at Nana. Right, but I mean, they are doing the diamond thing,

• 8:25Speaker 02

  which part of me feels like it's scammy because like, how are you guaranteeing that like it's all just my ashes that you compressed into a diamond that people are wearing now? I don't think there's a chance. But honestly, mix me with a couple dogs, yeah. Yeah. I, I'm okay with that. I'd be honored to be part dog, part diamond. No, I feel like I need to be, I need everything to be cleaned out before, if I was gonna get extenuated. It's just gotta be me in there.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  But I do like the idea of like being available on QVC, like, as I... You want to be mass-produced. Yes, yes, yes. Usually it's just like one little pin did for me, but you're like, "No, I want it to be able to sell it to everyone." Little ones scattered about. Well, Zach, that brings me to little ones scattered about. Brings us all of our congregations scattered around the world. We are gonna get a listener letter from a member of the congregation. As always, if you want to stitch on your friends, family, and your enemies, [email protected]. Just make sure the scam is what? Retired, because we don't want to fuck up yo' bed. Amen, okay? So, this person is actually gonna be, this is the first time we've ever had this happen. You're kidding.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  But I have a listener audio letter, and we're going to play it. This is the first time ever? Yes, I've never had audio. Like, I'll, I'll read them sometimes, but like, this person sent me an audio, and I was like, "Wait a minute, okay, this is kind of cute." I think audio is a very good way to get like the congregation involved. Yes. Like have them send in like their little... Yeah, so you can send a little voicemail now. We can get your information, okay, y'all, don't go overboard now, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, keep it simple. Keep it cute, okay? Two-minute remarks or less, just like church, amen. Okay, well, let's, Zach, let's hear what this person has to say.

• 10:04Speaker 00

  This message is for Scam Goddess. My name is Ari, and I almost got scammed today. I was working from home, and I got a call from a no-collar ID. That was the first red flag, um, I should have already known. But I answered it, and this guy, talking super fast, didn't hear, see any of the signs, he was so chill. He said that I failed to show up for jury duty. And I'm like, okay, I actually...

• 10:32Laci Mosley?

  Just moved to Colorado about eight months ago, so there's no way I've already been called for jury duty. It was a federal jury duty against like some kind of child minor situation.

• 10:44Speaker 07

  I'm usually totally against that.

• 10:45Laci Mosley?

  To bring that up, but he ended up sending me a link to reschedule my jury duty. The link wasn't working. He sent me a link like three times. I clicked on it every time, my dumb ass. And then I also copied and pasted the link in the browser. Now that I'm doing this in MO, I really, I should have seen the signs. And after that didn't work, he sent me another email with an alleged arrest warrant. Two citations, one for failure to appear for thirty-five hundred dollars and the other one was contempt of court for thirty-five hundred dollars.

• 11:21Speaker 07

  How you gonna be a contempt?

• 11:21Laci Mosley?

  And so I was like, hey buddy, I only have two hundred dollars in my account right now. There's no way.

• 11:27Speaker 07

  It's a white woman, sick brother. Hey buddy.

• 11:28Laci Mosley?

  That much money. He's like, oh, don't worry, don't worry.

• 11:30Speaker 07

  Barking up the wrong tree.

• 11:31Laci Mosley?

  You can pay fifteen hundred dollars. I said, okay, I don't have that. He said, well, is there a third party that you can get the money from right now? I was like, huh, not sure. Let me call someone. So I called my momma, her sweet baby angel self, and she said, Arie, that is a scam. They are not gonna call you and ask you for money. They're just gonna pick you up and put you in the back of the cruiser. And at that point, I understood. And so I got back on the line with the guy and I said, my lawyers have been notified and he immediately hung up, no questions asked. Am I still freaked out about it a little bit? Am I still kinda scared that I might be arrested for failure to appear?

• 12:12Speaker 07

  No.

• 12:13Laci Mosley?

  Yes, yes, I would say yes. But that is one of the scams that I didn't even think that they would ever do. And the fact that they're getting so creative now and that I, I can't even tell is getting really, really scary. So, everybody that's listening, please beware that that is a scam.

• 12:35Speaker 07

  I do love that it was the grandma that was like, bitch.

• 12:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the grandma is the baby. Like normally it's you warning your grandma.

• 12:43Speaker 07

  To send money, yeah.

• 12:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, don't send money, right. But this was the opposite where Nana was like, baby, no.

• 12:49Speaker 07

  Am I wrong to like, I assume kind of?

• 12:51Laci Mosley?

  Let's give a fake name for this person. Uh.

• 12:54Speaker 07

  Pencil?

• 12:54Laci Mosley?

  Pencil, okay. So pencil, it works for me.

• 12:58Speaker 07

  I never said I was good at improv, so that's why you booked me.

• 13:03Laci Mosley?

  I love it. I look, I don't see, is there, is there pencil behind me that you grabbed that from? No, that was good. That came off the dome. Okay, pencil. So pencil's grandma put her on game.

• 13:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 13:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what is concerning to me is that, okay pencil, we're not gonna judge you because again, we want everybody to share information and share their stories. But pencil, it seems like you was hell bent on clicking this link.

• 13:23Speaker 07

  That's great, and then I copy and paste.

• 13:26Laci Mosley?

  God tried to protect you. You clicked on the link three times and it said no. And then you were like, you know what, let me copy and paste it. What if I put it into the Google browser instead of Safari?

• 13:36Speaker 07

  She calls Geek Squad at Best Buy. She's like, I gotta get this link to work.

• 13:40Laci Mosley?

  I gotta pay this fee. So yes, uh, also something that struck me was in the beginning, um, pencil was saying that, I love the name, honestly, Zach, love the name. Pencil was saying like, oh, the guy got on the phone. He was super chill, but he was also talking super fast. And to juxtapose those two things, I'm like, how do you talk?

• 13:59Speaker 07

  You talk like this when you're super chill, but you're also talking super fast and just like really cool, but I'm super chill. But I'm talking real fast to me, I'm gonna arrest you real quick. Like, is that super, is that still chill? I completely agree.

• 14:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I feel like this man was a little frenetic pencil and, and, and you were really hell bent on giving him your info. I'm glad that it didn't succeed. I'm glad that you realized and he did that this was a scam. But yeah, if you miss jury duty, they're not gonna call you.

• 14:25Speaker 07

  No.

• 14:26Laci Mosley?

  And they most certainly aren't gonna be like, oh, you need to send us money for this no appearance.

• 14:32Speaker 07

  Crazy. Also like with jury duty, like, we're all just throwing it away, right?

• 14:38Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I tell people, especially people of color, we have to go to jury duty because otherwise it's just wannabe cops. And it's not a jury of our peers.

• 14:49Speaker 07

  No, you're right.

• 14:50Laci Mosley?

  It's harder in entertainment because our jobs aren't the kinds of jobs where we get time off.

• 14:56Speaker 07

  Yeah, and like, oh, I can't fly to Minnesota this, this week, you know what I mean?

• 15:00Laci Mosley?

  Like, I get time off in my career, but it's not necess- unless I blackout the dates, it's not necessarily up to me when that time comes. Like, it's not like, oh, the family's going on vacation, I'm gonna take some PTO or whatever. It's like, if I'm on a job, then I'm contractually obligated to give them my body for as much time as I've signed for.

• 15:18Speaker 07

  Give them your body?

• 15:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. You sign, you go to a doctor, they're like, is the body good enough? Hollywood doctor says yes. Okay, then they're like, hey, sign this, tell us you won't. One time I was like on set, I was working, I got a phone call from like, I guess like the HR or whatever network, I'm not gonna say which. But they were like, hey Lacey, um, we saw that you clicked the boxes that you're gonna be, um, skydiving and motorcycle drivin', driving.

• 15:41Laci Mosley?

  All this dangerous shit. It says you own a speedboat. And I was like, oh no, I'm gonna click no on that box. They were like, oh, okay, we're gonna send you the form again, just to make sure that you clicked that no.

• 15:50Speaker 07

  Like, we can't insure your ass.

• 15:52Laci Mosley?

  Right, exactly. So it is like that. So jury duty is harder for us.

• 15:56Speaker 07

  Damn.

• 15:56Laci Mosley?

  But, yeah, they're not gonna call you guys and they're definitely not gonna tell you what the case is about. Like, that was another flag in this. This pencil said that the, the guy calling was like, yeah, you missed a case. Like, we needed you because it was a child, uh, pedo. And, uh, he actually lived around the corner from you. It was a real juicy one. It's gonna be on court TV. Like, what are you talking about?

• 16:14Speaker 07

  And I also live in the same breath. He's like, you also are, you owe us seven thousand dollars and let's settle up now. Like, if, like, if anything, uh, uh, an entity is loving that you owe money because they're gonna add fees, they're gonna add, it's gonna be, get bigger and bigger the more you ignore it. So like, there's just no sense where this person would be after your money right there.

• 16:39Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. But I, I understand how because debt collectors used to call. Have debt collectors stopped calling or do I just not have like debt?

• 16:49Speaker 07

  Okay, flex.

• 16:50Laci Mosley?

  Flex, no doubt. No, I try to keep a little, I try to, I try to keep a few things in, um, in collections.

• 16:58Speaker 07

  Just to keep things interesting.

• 16:59Laci Mosley?

  Just to keep shit interesting.

• 17:01Speaker 07

  Be like, I did buy that canoe, huh?

• 17:02Laci Mosley?

  Well, because if, if it's purchased, so when someone goes to collections, it means that someone else has purchased the debt.

• 17:08Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 17:09Laci Mosley?

  In hopes to collect it and get the little fee money on top. So that's their hustle. But if they don't collect the debt within a certain timeframe, it just drops off.

• 17:18Speaker 07

  That's lovely.

• 17:19Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes like I'll get like a little random, like you know how you go to the doctor's office and then you'll pay your copay or whatever, uh, you know, healthcare.

• 17:28Speaker 07

  Oh, and then they send another bill.

• 17:29Laci Mosley?

  Really hard in America. Yeah, and then wherever they send labs to, yeah, they'll send a bill from that company.

• 17:34Speaker 07

  They owe you also eleven hundred dollars. I'm like, I don't think I do.

• 17:37Laci Mosley?

  Well, see, sometimes these bills be petty. It be like fifteen here, twenty-five here. And sometimes I just be like, it's so much hassle to just send you out that.

• 17:44Speaker 07

  I'm gonna let it go.

• 17:48Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I don't do this now because I'm an adult, but like six years ago, you know, little twenty-five used to do more than the twenty-five do today. And so I'm like, I'm gonna keep my little twenty-five. I'm not buying the house for the next seven years.

• 17:59Speaker 07

  You're being, and you're being petty to ask me for twenty dollars, if I'm being honest. We're friends, aren't we, doc?

• 18:05Laci Mosley?

  Are you broke?

• 18:06Speaker 07

  Flipping on them.

• 18:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, because who asked? You know how healthcare industry is?

• 18:10Speaker 07

  You need billions of dollars a year and you need twenty-five? I'm sick over the healthcare industry, literally.

• 18:16Laci Mosley?

  Beautiful, like literally, as our, as our most, as our many.

• 18:20Speaker 07

  It's such a bummer.

• 18:22Laci Mosley?

  It really is. It's never, it's never quite the highlight. It is one of our biggest scams. But in this, yeah, I would say pencil, thank God for your grandma because it seems as though you would have kept it. Was, does a scammer have a hot voice? Because you really kept chatting the homie. We're talking several phone calls. We're talking about you found out it was a scam and then you called Bay back and were like. Hello?

• 18:42Speaker 07

  Hey.

• 18:43Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna call my lawyer on you. Like, was this like, was it getting hot?

• 18:47Speaker 07

  As I say, a chara- charismatic man who like compliments me on the phone, like I might be, I might be in danger. I might be pulling up my Venmo, I mean like, okay, I can send you a hundred now.

• 18:58Laci Mosley?

  You know, because I feel like we've been losing, I don't hear men with deep voices that often anymore.

• 19:05Speaker 07

  I can't even do it. I just sound like a lesbian when I do it.

• 19:08Laci Mosley?

  No, it was working for me.

• 19:10Speaker 07

  Hey.

• 19:10Laci Mosley?

  Hey, hey. You know, I feel like if somebody got on my phone like, hey, you know, you missed jury duty, right?

• 19:15Speaker 07

  Hey, girl. A kid died because of you.

• 19:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, because of you. Yeah. So we just gonna need like a little quick 15 hundred. Yeah, Walmart gift cards. I might need in these trying times. I don't know. You know, getting somebody on the phone who can make, string that many sentences together.

• 19:30Speaker 07

  But in regards to your, do debt collectors call anymore? I put my phone on that like forward all unknown contacts to voicemail. And it's the best thing I've ever done in my life. Like I've missed some like important calls from people who are not stored in my phone, but like my phone doesn't like, I don't notice that scammers are calling anymore.

• 19:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 19:52Speaker 07

  Which is nice.

• 19:53Laci Mosley?

  I only get the ones that are scamming with the like, we saw you own a home in a place that I don't own a home. They're like, it's worth this much. Or like, you qualify for this loan. It's like, babes, I don't know in what world that you think you can advertise loans to people. Because loans are not something that people just like wanna take out.

• 20:09Speaker 07

  Yeah, you don't like ask someone, do you want a loan? Like, hey, I was wondering. I woke up this morning. I was like, I feel like Lacey wants a loan.

• 20:16Laci Mosley?

  You feel like you could use a loan. Yeah, what about a little 5 percentage or something real high? 6? 12?

• 20:23Speaker 07

  And I love that delete and report spam button.

• 20:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 20:26Speaker 07

  Like honestly, I've reported a lot of probably regular people as spam. And I'm not sorry about it.

• 20:33Laci Mosley?

  Anybody can be a spam.

• 20:34Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 20:34Laci Mosley?

  It's nebulous.

• 20:35Speaker 07

  It's more of a vibe.

• 20:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's a vibe. If someone has a spammy vibe, then yeah, we reported you to the FTC.

• 20:41Speaker 07

  Yeah. Also, when that guy called me, I'd be like, how about you just send me this information in the mail? And I'll look over it when I have time.

• 20:49Laci Mosley?

  Also, the guy changing his tactic from being like, oh, you missed jury duty. There's a fine. And then the pencil's like, well, I ain't got that much money. And they're like, well, how much do you have? I've never seen the court.

• 21:00Laci Mosley?

  The court is there.

• 21:01Speaker 07

  A hagling.

• 21:02Laci Mosley?

  What you got on you, yo? Because the justices can use whatever you got.

• 21:05Speaker 07

  Any jewelry, any inheritance?

• 21:08Laci Mosley?

  The justices can use that. That's why we got the scale. You thought that was for fairness? No, that's how we waste it.

• 21:13Speaker 07

  Diamonds.

• 21:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Yeah, no, bring it over. The valuation of gold is going up right now.

• 21:17Speaker 07

  Pencil, yeah. Pencil, just like, don't answer the phone anymore.

• 21:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, pencil, the phone's a dangerous one for you. Because then after that, the guy pivots for a second and is like, oh, you also have a warrant for your arrest.

• 21:28Speaker 07

  That's the crazy part. For missing jury duty, I'm like, get a life, honestly.

• 21:32Laci Mosley?

  Like, what are you talking about? Please be serious, sir. And now, expeditiously.

• 21:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, well, pencil, I'm glad that you didn't get scammed. And thank you for sharing that with us. Yes, if you missed jury duty, which is a very common thing that a lot of people do, we should be going. It's like, the smart people should be going to the jury duty. Because people's lives might be in your hands, but you also might get like a really boring case, but we gotta do our.

• 21:56Speaker 07

  Can I say, I was on jury duty once. I was an alternate. And so I had to be there for the entire case, but I was just listening for the most part. And I would sub in if someone couldn't go.

• 22:07Laci Mosley?

  Did you want to? Did you want to like Tonya Harding someone and like get in there?

• 22:11Speaker 07

  No, not really. Like, I was like kind of annoyed that I had to be there because I was quite poor at the time. And I had a serving job. I had to give up all my shifts. And I remember there are the two lawyers. There was like the person being sued and then the person, you know, defending them. And I knew that the person was guilty of the case, but I hated the other lawyer so much. That I was like, well, I'm not voting against the criminal. Because I don't like you.

• 22:39Laci Mosley?

  Damn. See, prosecution has to really work on their vibes.

• 22:41Speaker 07

  I think so.

• 22:42Laci Mosley?

  Because I mean, they have such strong narc energy already. So it's like, you really gotta like calm that down.

• 22:49Speaker 07

  Yeah. Be like, hey, we've all smoked a little weed here.

• 22:53Laci Mosley?

  Who and when? Dates? Everyone, empty your pockets.

• 23:00Laci Mosley?

  Like, you gotta, you gotta give us a little personality.

• 23:03Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 23:03Laci Mosley?

  Okay, because we already hate you because you're a narc for the man, okay? Yeah, we get it. You gotta keep bad guys off the street. But like, come on, make it a little entertaining for us. Or at least make it feel like it's to our benefit. I feel like a lot of prosecutors come off, like you can tell in their head, they're trying to like win a case or like get a certain amount of wins or get press.

• 23:19Speaker 07

  You smell bullshit.

• 23:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So it's like, this is not about the people involved. You don't care about justice. You're trying to like either up your status or like, you know, run for some higher position. And it's like, we can see all your bullshit.

• 23:30Speaker 07

  You're being competitive. Like you're just trying to win.

• 23:32Laci Mosley?

  With people's lives.

• 23:32Speaker 07

  Yes. I also think that jury duty members should be paid as if they're federal employees for that week. That's it. I think you get like $15 a day or something.

• 23:43Laci Mosley?

  A day?

• 23:44Speaker 07

  Yeah. It's like, and it's for lunch, I think. It's like to reimburse you for lunch. You do not get paid to do jury duty.

• 23:51Laci Mosley?

  That's wild.

• 23:52Speaker 07

  Isn't it? That's what I'm saying. It's asking so much of people, especially if you are barely making ends meet to then.

• 23:59Laci Mosley?

  So then you're only gonna get a certain type of person, which is what we usually see, which is people who want to be cops.

• 24:03Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 24:04Laci Mosley?

  People who've probably had barely any control in their life, finally getting to exert some over somebody else's life, which makes for the worst jury box.

• 24:11Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 24:12Laci Mosley?

  It's like, oh, it's my time to be judge, jury and executioner.

• 24:14Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 24:15Laci Mosley?

  Like, no. Yeah, you gotta, gotta throw some coin at the citizens.

• 24:19Speaker 07

  I think.

• 24:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And then I want to get involved.

• 24:21Speaker 07

  Honestly, maybe they could make it like an entry level position. So like people, it would be incentivized to do jury duty. Because you could make money while you're doing it. Do you know what I mean?

• 24:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you know, somebody get on TikTok like, do you want to make money from court?

• 24:35Speaker 07

  Do you want to judge people and get your bag?

• 24:37Laci Mosley?

  Right. At the same time. Do you love true crime? Are you ready to monetize it?

• 24:44Speaker 07

  Monetize.

• 24:44Laci Mosley?

  Right. The Los Angeles courthouse is hosting auditions today.

• 24:49Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 24:50Laci Mosley?

  For you to be on a jury.

• 24:52Speaker 07

  Of your peers.

• 24:53Laci Mosley?

  Of your peers.

• 24:55Speaker 07

  It's all influencers then?

• 24:56Laci Mosley?

  Right, it's all influencers.

• 24:57Speaker 07

  A nightmare. I'd be like, honestly, just execute me. I'm good. I don't need this.

• 25:02Laci Mosley?

  Spend 12 hours with some of the coolest people in your city, watching content, then making content. Wait, I think we've done it. I think, yeah.

• 25:09Speaker 07

  I mean, honestly.

• 25:11Laci Mosley?

  Just pay me $15.99 and I could put you in touch with the Los Angeles registrar and you can get your jury.

• 25:17Speaker 07

  It's just to sign up for jury summons, yeah.

• 25:20Laci Mosley?

  Sign up for jury summons.

• 25:21Speaker 07

  That's crazy.

• 25:23Laci Mosley?

  It's justus.org. Like just and then dash us. Yeah. Just us doing justice.

• 25:29Speaker 07

  That's good, just us.

• 25:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. That's, that's kind of cutie. Now I want to do it. Scams.

• 25:39Speaker 02

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• 25:47Speaker 03

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• 25:49Speaker 04

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• 25:51Speaker 03

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• 25:55Speaker 04

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• 26:02Speaker 03

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• 27:07Laci Mosley?

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• 27:50Laci Mosley?

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• 28:05Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my goodness. Well, that brings us into my favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks. This is where I will regale Zach with a famous con caper group of criminals.

• 28:17Speaker 07

  Gorgeous photo.

• 28:17Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. We're gonna get Mr. Towers' opinions all throughout. Yes. I love that you sent your intro over with no last name, as if like we weren't gonna have Zach Noe Towers.

• 28:27Speaker 07

  Honey, I didn't send anything over.

• 28:29Laci Mosley?

  Well, that was very scamery of your people and I kind of love it. They were like, Zach, like, just any Zach.

• 28:35Speaker 07

  That's crazy. Sorry. No. Yeah, Zach Noe Towers. Hi.

• 28:39Laci Mosley?

  Zach Noe Towers. So Zach, I am gonna regale you with a famous con caper group of criminals. We'll get your opinion all throughout. Uh, today in Historic Hoodwinks, we're gonna be talking about, uh, something that had been going on for years. Shadowy golf brokers snatched up all the tee times at public golf courses in Los Angeles and resold them at higher prices on the black market, until a crew of golf influencers and local players teamed up to take them down.

• 29:08Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 29:09Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. So, are you like, uh, and this is like the LA-

• 29:14Speaker 07

  A golfer? No.

• 29:15Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 29:18Speaker 07

  Wait, but that's so interesting. So, they bought up all the tee times, like all the reservations, and then they sold them?

• 29:24Laci Mosley?

  So, right now, we're looking at the LA Country Club, which was founded in 1897. Um, and at the time, it didn't admit women, uh, black people, Jewish people, or entertainers. Now, the entertainers being in quotes is fun for me, because are we talking about entertainments of the, of the night?

• 29:44Speaker 07

  No sex workers, no background actors.

• 29:48Laci Mosley?

  Union only?

• 29:50Speaker 07

  Well, 1897, first of all, didn't know golf was even that old.

• 29:55Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it's a stick and a ball, so it seems pretty-

• 29:58Speaker 07

  Now that you put it that way, I can picture cavemen doing it. But, um, yeah, entertainers, I'm sure this is when like, it was like vaudeville? And like entertainers were like-

• 30:07Laci Mosley?

  They could come in here with their fucking-

• 30:08Speaker 07

  Clowns?

• 30:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no. That makes sense. So like, the Ringling Brothers could have come.

• 30:15Speaker 07

  No, not you guys.

• 30:16Laci Mosley?

  No carnies.

• 30:17Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 30:17Laci Mosley?

  Is that what that means?

• 30:20Laci Mosley?

  That's what it's giving. It's giving no carnies.

• 30:22Speaker 07

  No carnies is so funny.

• 30:23Laci Mosley?

  These are nice golf courses, uh, golf courses. Um, obviously, the LA County Golf Course was, um, or Country Club, excuse me. The LA Country Club was shady from jump, you know, they have a very, what doesn't have a racist past in America?

• 30:35Speaker 07

  Probably still, right?

• 30:36Laci Mosley?

  Or a bigot past. Yeah, no, for sure. You know, golfing is still one of those kind of like sports that has like a, a financial barrier to entry.

• 30:42Speaker 07

  Prohibitively expensive.

• 30:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and also like a geographical barrier to entry. So you have, because like golf courses tend to be in more suburban areas or areas where there's like a lot more land. And then like if you're, you know, living in-

• 30:53Speaker 07

  If you can afford to have acres of land and then you can afford, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:57Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. And then you also have to afford the clubs, which are expensive.

• 31:00Speaker 07

  Totally.

• 31:01Laci Mosley?

  Country club membership, that can be extremely expensive.

• 31:04Speaker 07

  It's also like a long game, I feel like.

• 31:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 31:07Speaker 07

  You'd have to block off like an entire afternoon. Yeah.

• 31:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, people typically like to play during the week, like, you know, it's, it's a great place to, um, for men to get drunk outdoors with one another.

• 31:17Speaker 07

  And sexually harass young, uh, attendants.

• 31:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, little car girls.

• 31:21Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 31:21Laci Mosley?

  Or maybe they, they off by the, you know, seventh hole, they, they see like a wooded area and they go there for a little bit, you know?

• 31:28Speaker 07

  Of gay sex?

• 31:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 31:33Speaker 07

  They cruise on the golf course.

• 31:34Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you know, somebody like-

• 31:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 31:38Laci Mosley?

  Somebody shirks it.

• 31:39Speaker 07

  I got a hole for you.

• 31:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and they find another hole, you know, off the green, off the green. Yeah, so this is a lot going on at these places. Uh, I, I come from a very large golf culture. My dad's a very avid golfer.

• 31:52Speaker 07

  Really?

• 31:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 31:53Speaker 07

  Do you golf?

• 31:54Laci Mosley?

  Uh, no, I kind of want to try my hand at it again. I got my first set of pings when I was eight and they had like this cute pink like grippies and I-

• 32:01Speaker 07

  Did you call them pings?

• 32:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, P-I-G, whatever.

• 32:05Speaker 07

  I've never heard of that before.

• 32:06Laci Mosley?

  Really?

• 32:07Speaker 07

  Like clubs?

• 32:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the golf club.

• 32:08Speaker 07

  They're called pings?

• 32:09Laci Mosley?

  Well, not all of them, but this is a brand. Ping is like a very famous brand. There's like Callaway, there's like some very famous golf brands, yeah.

• 32:16Speaker 07

  Awesome.

• 32:16Laci Mosley?

  Which are fair.

• 32:17Speaker 07

  No, no.

• 32:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so I was more interested in like, like, if it's not, if it's a super nice course, they won't have carts, they won't have golf carts. Like you have to have a caddy or like carry your own clubs, because they don't want to fuck up the grass. But if it's like, you know, like a, like one that's made in the middle of a suburban neighborhood or whatever, like a lot of those have golf carts. So I just like driving the carts.

• 32:35Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 32:36Laci Mosley?

  I was only into the like, four.

• 32:39Speaker 07

  I don't understand, like, also, like, how do you get good enough to like be on the course? Because I feel like I'd hit the first ball and it'd go into like a highway traffic or something like that. Like I'd be nowhere near the green or whatever. Like how, I just don't understand how you get good at it, I guess.

• 32:55Laci Mosley?

  I feel like there's probably like, maybe like a, I'd say maybe like 46% to 50% of people who are like actually pretty good golfers and you're like have a low handicap and all that stuff. And then I'm sure there's a lot of drunk people out there just hitting the ball.

• 33:09Speaker 07

  Swinging.

• 33:10Laci Mosley?

  Swinging, and they get in the golf cart and as soon as they get close to something else, then they just get another ball out the cart and it is like dropping on the green.

• 33:18Speaker 07

  I love that.

• 33:19Laci Mosley?

  There's no way in hell everybody is like-

• 33:22Speaker 07

  Four?

• 33:22Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, it's a good one. Okay, yeah. It's a 19-foot putt, guys. Come on, shit. Let's talk about how we're gonna ruin the world with AI. Even on the bourbon sweet cheeks, like I feel, yeah, I feel like, uh, I could fit in just fine there being awful. But yeah, so the golf brokers are now taking up these public tee times. And as someone who's had to book a tee time, like, it can be very competitive, like if you're, especially like Saturday morning. There's certain days that are like-

• 33:46Speaker 07

  Pickleball.

• 33:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, mm.

• 33:48Speaker 07

  People be looking, refreshing their phone, like getting those court times.

• 33:52Laci Mosley?

  And I like pickleball.

• 33:53Speaker 07

  I haven't done it yet, but I know I'll be very good at it when I start.

• 33:55Laci Mosley?

  I felt like Serena Williams, but with just way less effort.

• 33:59Speaker 07

  I just found out it's like a wiffle ball. I didn't, I didn't know that.

• 34:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's like, yeah, and then the paddle, it's, and it's like a bigger ball too, so if you ain't got good eyesight, you ain't missing out. Okay, it's not green like the court, like tennis trying to play with my mind, okay? We're talking about cataract eyes, okay? We need a yellow ball.

• 34:16Speaker 07

  Cloudy eyes.

• 34:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 34:18Speaker 07

  It's a small court too. Big paddle, big ball, different colors.

• 34:23Laci Mosley?

  Like honestly, a part of the game is like move a little, as little as possible.

• 34:26Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 34:27Laci Mosley?

  Or like, you know, you want to hit the ball in the kitchen real soft, so they gotta like try to run up and get it.

• 34:31Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 34:33Laci Mosley?

  Some of those stratagem, stratagem game. But back to golf, our stratagem game today. So golf in LA has like a shady origin story, right? So the city of LA operates a busy, sprawling golf, like public golf course system and is home to some of the oldest and most exclusive private country clubs in the country. We're talking historic levels of racism, like, like, you know what I mean? Like this isn't like new money.

• 35:01Speaker 07

  The cream of the crop racism.

• 35:02Laci Mosley?

  Same new money racism, yeah, this is that old-

• 35:04Speaker 07

  This is original recipe racism.

• 35:06Laci Mosley?

  This is when you get called slurs and they'll be like, a booger retro. And I'd be like, what the fuck is a booger retro?

• 35:13Laci Mosley?

  So we used to call y'all back in the day.

• 35:16Speaker 07

  Har- at Harvard, we called you that, yeah.

• 35:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, right.

• 35:20Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 35:21Laci Mosley?

  That's when they had slurs for like specific ethnicities, okay? The Icelanders got one, you know, like everybody got one.

• 35:28Speaker 07

  Yeah, oddly respectful in that way.

• 35:30Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Oh, you mean that, that Icelander fucker? Yeah, like everybody's getting one. Everybody, this is old racism, okay? You gotta, you gotta be real, real white to, to, to hold up in light. So, um, so the LA Country Club itself was founded in 1897. That's the one that we're talking about that we saw that was like no, you know, nobody including-

• 35:52Speaker 07

  Jewish people, women or black people.

• 35:54Laci Mosley?

  Yes, exactly. The people that we don't want anywhere. So, and here we are. I'm gonna say, hi. Don't, don't say it too loud. Don't tell nobody we were, oh, yeah, they don't know.

• 36:07Speaker 07

  They don't know. It's our secret.

• 36:10Laci Mosley?

  So, um, they relocated their current location from the founding position in 1897 to Beverly Hills in 1911. And from the start, the LACC, the LA Country Club, was, um, it didn't, you know, admit the women, the black people, the Jewish people, or the clowns. So, um, they only begrudgingly let in their first black member in 1991.

• 36:32Speaker 07

  Oh, my God. That is nauseating.

• 36:38Laci Mosley?

  Which was, um, extremely late compared to, um, other clubs, um.

• 36:45Speaker 07

  That's wild. I was, I was alive. Do you know what I mean?

• 36:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I don't, I don't know if I want to be the first black person, like I would be the first black person to win something because I could go home, you know, and then be black at home and be like, I can't believe I did this. So black, so mean.

• 37:02Speaker 07

  So safe.

• 37:03Laci Mosley?

  So safe. I'm like the first black person where I have to keep coming to the place every time I go and be the only black person.

• 37:10Speaker 07

  And everyone's like, there they go.

• 37:13Laci Mosley?

  Sipping their champagne or have a, what, like their lobster thermador, what's old people rich food?

• 37:20Laci Mosley?

  Cherished jubilee, you know?

• 37:22Speaker 07

  Okay, Waldorf salad. I don't know why that came to mind.

• 37:25Laci Mosley?

  Bananas foster.

• 37:26Speaker 07

  Oh, God, okay, yeah.

• 37:28Laci Mosley?

  They having that, looking like, there he is again. Bet you the locker room's gonna smell like black now.

• 37:35Speaker 07

  God.

• 37:37Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, exciting for them. The bigots probably needed a thrill.

• 37:40Speaker 07

  Okay, yeah. So true.

• 37:42Laci Mosley?

  I want to know who this first black person is, because if it's 91, I'm starting to, wasn't OJ around being-

• 37:46Speaker 07

  I was literally thinking OJ Simpson.

• 37:48Laci Mosley?

  Being not black but being OJ?

• 37:49Speaker 07

  And/or who was his lawyer?

• 37:52Laci Mosley?

  Uh, well, Johnny Cochran?

• 37:53Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 37:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 37:54Speaker 07

  Couldn't have been him? High profile?

• 37:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, high profile. It's gotta be an athlete, I would think. We gotta look this up.

• 38:00Speaker 07

  I could also see like an Eddie Murphy type. Sorry, go on.

• 38:01Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, I could definitely see like a, like an Eddie Murphy type as well. Or what about a Danny Glover?

• 38:07Speaker 07

  Ooh.

• 38:07Laci Mosley?

  Did all those Beverly Hills cops.

• 38:09Speaker 07

  Oh, my gosh.

• 38:09Laci Mosley?

  They would love him then.

• 38:10Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 38:12Laci Mosley?

  So, but yeah, so they, they made the progressive choice in 1991 to let in a black, so.

• 38:18Speaker 07

  Reluctant progressivism.

• 38:20Laci Mosley?

  Begrudgingly.

• 38:21Speaker 07

  Begrudgingly. When you said progressive, I was like, that's not the word. Like, it's not progressive. In 91, it's not progressive.

• 38:31Laci Mosley?

  It's the opposite, quite the opposite, actually. They were very angry about it. So, um, that makes the public golf course run by the city all more important for golfers in Los Angeles who aren't rich, white, Christian men. So because of the exclusivity and the begrudgingly letting in the one black man in 91 and all this stuff, like, public golf courses are extremely important, because then it's like you can go golf and enjoy this very gate-kept sport without the, you know, uh, bitumen in them.

• 38:56Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 38:57Laci Mosley?

  You know?

• 38:59Laci Mosley?

  Doing racism to you.

• 38:59Speaker 07

  What a novel concept. What, how wild.

• 39:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you wanna go somewhere and like not have racism done to you so you can like enjoy life? We have the place for you. It's public though. So according to LA's golf division, the city's public courses host more than 1 million rounds of golf per year. And I imagine with tourism and like also avid golfers, my dad golfs every week, multiple times a week. Yeah.

• 39:19Speaker 07

  Really? I was gonna say, I wonder how many games can be going at one time?

• 39:25Laci Mosley?

  Uh, like, like how many people can like tee off?

• 39:27Speaker 07

  Yeah, like staggered or whatever. Yeah.

• 39:30Laci Mosley?

  They go in groups.

• 39:31Speaker 07

  Still a million sounds so high.

• 39:33Laci Mosley?

  Right? Yeah, I'm sure if they're staggered off enough, then you can probably get a lot of people through there in a week. Courses are huge too, and especially if you got a full course, 18 holes. Yeah. So, such exciting stuff, guys. We love golf. It's so fun. Love to turn on that golf and yell at the TV.

• 39:49Speaker 07

  I wanna go to a driving range though. I think that'd be a good like date, you know?

• 39:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, people do that all the time.

• 39:54Speaker 07

  Do they?

• 39:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they do the driving range or like they'll do putt putt.

• 39:57Speaker 07

  Mini golf is huge. Mini golf is huge. I am quite good at mini golf.

• 40:01Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I know they're two separate things, but that is at least putting.

• 40:04Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 40:05Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna give that to you.

• 40:06Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 40:07Laci Mosley?

  The public courses offer like lower tee time rates than private ones, obviously. The tee time is where you would check off from the first tee, so that's when you meet up with your partner or if you're paired with people or whatever. Yeah, that's number hole one. Hole one. And then you tee off.

• 40:21Speaker 07

  Hole, number one hole was my nickname in college.

• 40:24Laci Mosley?

  Oh no. Well, at least you were number one hole, okay? If you were number two hole, I'd be very disappointed, Zach. No. If you're not first, you're last, especially in that category. Yeah. So I'm proud of you.

• 40:36Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 40:37Laci Mosley?

  So they have cheaper times, right? And the Trump National Golf Course in Palos Verdes charges like upwards of a thousand dollars for a tee time during prime time on weekends. So let's say you want a 9 a.m. on a Saturday, it's a thousand and up for you to have that round of golf because it's like a really popular time. And the most popular time slot at Wilsing and Harding, which is the public golf course in Griffith Park, is $55. And that's the most expensive time slot for a public park. And we live in LA, so you know Griffith is right around the corner.

• 41:09Speaker 07

  Yeah, I didn't know there was a golf course there. Wow.

• 41:12Laci Mosley?

  So you can pay $55 to play 18 holes of golf at most at a public one, or you can go to Trump's weird ass place and start at a thousand for coveted time slots.

• 41:22Speaker 07

  I mean, that just shows the wealth disparity too, where it's like, I mean, like obviously you have to have so much money if you're tossing a thousand dollars at your stupid little Saturday morning sport.

• 41:32Laci Mosley?

  Exactly, especially if you're doing it regularly.

• 41:34Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 41:35Laci Mosley?

  So that's just like an expense you have.

• 41:36Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 41:37Laci Mosley?

  And like, it's also not like the grass is greener. Some courses are much, much better. But like, it's, it's not like the experience is that vastly different to warrant it being a thousand dollars and up for you to tee off, but that's like how you put up again a barrier to entry so that we can keep people out. Because rich people only feel rich, because nothing is real. So you only feel rich really if someone is excluded from something that you have. Because otherwise, there's no way to tangibly feel it. The jewelry that we wear, oh yeah, the expensive rock or expensive metal, it means nothing. It's only worth as much value as we put on it.

• 42:13Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 42:13Laci Mosley?

  The only way for rich people to feel good is to feel like they have something that other people don't.

• 42:18Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 42:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 42:19Speaker 07

  So scary. Um, and I think about that stuff more and more, where it's just like, oh, these people are paying to be away from other people.

• 42:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 42:28Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 42:28Laci Mosley?

  Because that's the only way to have some type of class semblance in your day to day life. You can't.

• 42:34Speaker 07

  I can't.

• 42:35Laci Mosley?

  There's a bouncer here. He lets me through. He closes the door on you. Not you, poor. Yeah, it's gotta, yeah, it has to be that. And then as soon as people start to get access to things, that's why we saw labels kind of disappear. Rich people used to have labels all over their body and then it became quiet luxury as the middle class or upper middle class could at least afford one piece of that. Maybe you have 20, you know, iconic Chanel bags, but they can at least afford one. And the second, you can afford one that's like, oh.

• 42:59Speaker 07

  Oh, I'm that. She is me. Me is she. Yeah.

• 43:03Laci Mosley?

  I'm like the poor.

• 43:04Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 43:04Laci Mosley?

  Find me something like, you know what I mean? Like, I want a Baldeco bag from Hermes.

• 43:09Speaker 07

  They say a baby whale loofah.

• 43:12Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 43:14Laci Mosley?

  I wash myself with whale.

• 43:19Laci Mosley?

  Very that. So, um, obviously there's a price disparity here. High demand and short supply are a recipe for a black market. So there's a new problem. The city's public golf course in Los Angeles, um, their reservation system is managed by NBC Sports Next for Golf. You can book a tee time online, by phone, or in person at a course. For an annual fee of $25, the LA City Player Card gives you early access to tee times. It's supposed to allow holders to book tee times up to nine days in advance compared to the seven, seven day advance bookings for non-cardholders. So even the public part is like, hey, we can make this a little exclusive for you.

• 44:01Speaker 07

  I, okay, this is, have you ever done an episode about the fast track highways? Do you know how there's highways where you can pay more to use them?

• 44:10Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:10Speaker 07

  I don't understand how they exist. Because it's like, I thought roads were like paid for by like government

• 44:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 44:18Speaker 07

  facilities, but then it's like, oh, if you don't want traffic, we've built this other road for you. You see what I mean?

• 44:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and, and that's the thing about things like, like conveniences. You know what I mean? Like, I, like, I just got my car registered. I was riding dirty for a little while.

• 44:36Speaker 07

  Good girl.

• 44:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and like I was very stressed out when I got in my car and I, I couldn't realize where the tenseness was coming from. And I was like, oh my God, it's because I'm hyper aware of the police every time I get in my car.

• 44:45Speaker 07

  Of course.

• 44:46Laci Mosley?

  And then one day the boys was out. I was driving through Beverly Hills. They will definitely pull you over and run your place no matter what. And like, I see four cars like in rapid succession and pulled over, blue and red lights. These are accidents. These are people. I was like, damn, the boys is out. It must be time to get their like quota or something today. So I'm driving the speed limit, but I have a sticker that is very much the wrong color on my car. And it's a loud wrong color. Like you could have blue or you could have red.

• 45:10Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 45:10Laci Mosley?

  Mine is yellow. Yellow. I'm going on a year and a half riding dirty.

• 45:17Speaker 07

  Class of 24, yeah.

• 45:20Laci Mosley?

  My shit say beware the pandemic 2020. I ain't gave no money.

• 45:26Speaker 07

  That's so funny.

• 45:27Laci Mosley?

  So I had, I ended up like getting to Hollywood and be like, phew, okay, they don't really check place over here. They got more crime to work on. I see other people, two more cars getting pulled over. And I was like, oh, so then I just took a turn because there was a cop like behind me, but very far. But I was like, if they pull up to me at a light, they're gonna see this loud ass yellow. I took a right and I just drove down all the alleyways all the way home.

• 45:45Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 45:45Laci Mosley?

  Which was like miles of alleyway.

• 45:47Speaker 07

  Not a life. Not for you.

• 45:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so it's like, but, but my point is, is that instead of having to go to the DMV and get everything taken care of with my suspended registration and stuff, I found a private place. And I went there, paid a little extra. They called the DMV, got it all straightened out. I was there for all of 10 minutes and I didn't have to get a sticker in the mail. He had the sticker. He pulled one out, came up to my car and was like, by now.

• 46:10Speaker 07

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 46:12Laci Mosley?

  So like to your point of like the, having the more expensive part of the highway, which they do have those in Texas, those alien highways, where it's like you can pay more and you can avoid all the people and the traffic.

• 46:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 46:22Laci Mosley?

  It is scammy, but people have found a way to make a coin.

• 46:26Speaker 07

  That's so, and I thought the DMV was one of those last standing places where like, they don't care if you are Zendaya. Like you have to go to the DMV, but I guess not anymore.

• 46:37Laci Mosley?

  Uh-uh. No, you can go to a guy who knows the DMV. They'll call the DMV for you.

• 46:43Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 46:43Laci Mosley?

  I got a DMV guy.

• 46:44Speaker 07

  They take his picture instead of hers. So he has a guy that's like me.

• 46:48Laci Mosley?

  And that's why, you know, like seeing things like, oh, we have these public parks where you can, public golf courses where it's more accessible. And then to hear that, oh, we got a $25 cheat where you can skip the line in front of the other public.

• 47:01Speaker 07

  That's scammy. That's so, I hate that.

• 47:05Laci Mosley?

  Once people, paying for conveniences become such a thing in America that we charge for air, okay?

• 47:10Speaker 07

  I just think it's crazy that it's coming into play with like government funded spaces.

• 47:15Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, all the time.

• 47:17Speaker 07

  Oh my God, also TSA.

• 47:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 47:18Speaker 07

  Yeah, where it's like, oh, but also you could get checked here and then you don't have to take your shoes off ever again.

• 47:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, or like if you go, like if you fly Delta One, the TSA is literally like one little box.

• 47:29Speaker 07

  All of a sudden it's not a big deal.

• 47:31Laci Mosley?

  And it's just you and a, and a lady. And she's like, kid, you could keep your shoes on, throw that in there. And it's just you and a lady. Yeah, you can get by anything in the, if anything we've learned from this administration is that all it takes is some money to get past everything in the government. I don't even know why we were listening to the government. Laws, mere suggestion.

• 47:50Speaker 07

  You do you.

• 47:51Laci Mosley?

  Right, and everyone's just like, he can't keep getting away with this every day. And I'm like, clearly he can.

• 47:55Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 47:56Laci Mosley?

  I don't know where you've been at. So now we're seeing the scamming just come into the public reservation of these tee times, which is a bummer because this was supposed to make it more accessible, but here we are. So for years, golfers found themselves consistently locked out of prime playing times, even if they had the player card. And that LA City Player with that $25. So at city courses, slots opened up at 6 a.m. for golfing nine days ahead. And every morning, in a matter of seconds, the reservations disappeared on the city's online booking platform. Brokers were snatching up prime time tee times at Los Angeles public golf courses and reselling them.

• 48:37Speaker 07

  Like Ticketmaster.

• 48:38Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. Or like StockX.

• 48:40Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 48:41Laci Mosley?

  Just like now if there's a high demand, middlemen get involved.

• 48:45Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 48:46Laci Mosley?

  There's nothing I hate more. It's a middleman.

• 48:48Speaker 07

  Same. The lowest of the low.

• 48:51Laci Mosley?

  Like, we do not need you.

• 48:53Speaker 07

  No. I feel like Europe has much better laws about this. Like not.

• 48:57Laci Mosley?

  Everywhere does. Yeah, we're in the law of the crimes and the scams, okay? Why do you think we can't just file our taxes directly to the government?

• 49:06Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, that's crazy.

• 49:07Laci Mosley?

  Because Inman and Turbo and all of them have lobbied so hard to make sure that taxes are so complicated that they are a necessity.

• 49:16Speaker 07

  It's crazy. Crazy. And I've been throwing money at that problem for years, my tax person. I'm like.

• 49:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, same. So you gotta go get a guy. And the whole thing is just a made up industry. And I, that's what kills me about businesses is like, at, at that scale, instead of just like coming up with a product that people actually need, they're like, we need to keep people needing this product.

• 49:39Speaker 07

  Of course. And make it, keep it, keep it confusing. Keep it bad.

• 49:43Laci Mosley?

  That's like during the civil rights movement when they were like, okay, we're no longer gonna have colored and white water fountains. Like the water fountain guy being like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 49:52Speaker 07

  I think we should add another.

• 49:55Laci Mosley?

  Keep the racism up. And what if we have a non-binary fountain?

• 49:59Speaker 07

  A girl fountain, a boy fountain, and a they fountain.

• 50:02Laci Mosley?

  Girl, yeah. She, they, him fountain. Then we have she white, she black.

• 50:09Speaker 07

  She white. Episode title, She White.

• 50:12Laci Mosley?

  She white, right?

• 50:15Laci Mosley?

  Scams.

• 50:27Speaker 03

  911 Nashville returns.

• 50:30Speaker 04

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• 50:33Speaker 03

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• 50:36Speaker 04

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• 50:43Speaker 03

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• 50:49Speaker 05

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• 51:19Speaker 03

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• 51:50Laci Mosley?

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• 52:15Speaker 00

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• 52:30Speaker 01

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• 52:47Laci Mosley?

  Cut! We have colored only she.

• 52:51Speaker 07

  That's so funny.

• 52:53Laci Mosley?

  Like, there's always gonna be somebody.

• 52:54Speaker 07

  But yeah, let's make it harder and worse.

• 52:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so we can get a cut of something that's so unnecessary for you to get a cut of.

• 53:00Speaker 07

  It also, this is kind of the same, but like how iPhones are getting worse.

• 53:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 53:05Speaker 07

  They're getting worse. I'll never forget, I had my 13 for a long time, and then I went to the 17, and it dies twice as fast.

• 53:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 53:13Speaker 07

  And I'm like, give me my 13 back. I'd rather have the 13.

• 53:17Laci Mosley?

  It kind of makes me scared to upgrade things. Like, I don't know when I'm gonna upgrade my car, because now they're talking about subscription services to turn the heat on in your leather seats and stuff. I'm like, I don't think I need the computer that much in my car.

• 53:28Speaker 07

  That's crazy. That's crazy. I know, I kind of want to, I kind of want to go back to roll down windows.

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  Just the energy of a...

• 53:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 53:37Laci Mosley?

  You know what?

• 53:37Speaker 07

  Make you work for a little bit.

• 53:38Laci Mosley?

  This will keep us safe from scams, too. Because if, because if somebody comes up to my window and it takes this much effort for me to unroll that bitch, I'm not unrolling it.

• 53:46Speaker 07

  I'm like, what?

• 53:46Laci Mosley?

  Like, this has made it too easy for us. Like, bzzzz, what do you need? No, you're right. I would evaluate my choices of who I interacted with via car window. If I had this, if I had to churn butter to open that hoe. What have we been, you're right, this little bzzzz.

• 54:01Speaker 07

  You know?

• 54:02Laci Mosley?

  That's made us too accessible, that bzzzz.

• 54:03Speaker 07

  Too easy.

• 54:04Laci Mosley?

  No, no.

• 54:04Speaker 07

  And they expect it fast, too.

• 54:06Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And they'll be like...

• 54:07Speaker 07

  Give me a second.

• 54:10Laci Mosley?

  Like, hold on.

• 54:11Speaker 07

  I gotta stretch.

• 54:12Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 54:12Speaker 07

  Before I churn my butter.

• 54:14Laci Mosley?

  Do I wanna, do I, what does that want? Do I look sketchy? I have plenty of time to think while I'm...

• 54:18Speaker 07

  Three, threes of these gives it like this much.

• 54:21Laci Mosley?

  Just like that.

• 54:23Speaker 07

  What?

• 54:23Laci Mosley?

  The what?

• 54:26Laci Mosley?

  We need to bring it back. Honestly, I think it's a safety measure we need. So here we have these brokers, right? Snatching up all of the best tee times. So golfers said that without using a broker, they got tee times primarily through last-minute cancellations or a waitlist, where they had to stand by in person from five minutes to several hours. And sometimes the list didn't get tapped at all. Now, I want to feel bad for y'all because this is your hobby. This is your passion. I know that it's, red is very elitist, pretentious, kind of like moneyed sport. But, you know, that's their Saturday.

• 55:03Speaker 07

  No, yeah.

• 55:04Laci Mosley?

  And they have to wait from five minutes to hours to maybe not even get on the course.

• 55:08Speaker 07

  Yeah, that's horrible.

• 55:09Laci Mosley?

  Like, Mom Donny would never let this happen.

• 55:11Speaker 07

  Oh, please, this, I keep oscillating on this episode from being like so happy to so sad and like...

• 55:17Laci Mosley?

  That's what we do here. Welcome.

• 55:20Speaker 07

  I mean, I want, I want a Mom Donny so bad.

• 55:23Laci Mosley?

  We all do. Unfortunately, in LA, we have a mayor, but then we also have a council, a city council, 15 people that make mayor's job impossible. So we would need 16 Mom Donnys. Which I'm open to.

• 55:36Speaker 07

  I'm open to.

• 55:37Laci Mosley?

  If we can get 16.

• 55:38Speaker 07

  Never too many Mom Donnys.

• 55:39Laci Mosley?

  Throw in some Osofs, throw in some El Sayeds.

• 55:42Speaker 07

  Abdul Asa El Sayed.

• 55:44Laci Mosley?

  Throw in all them black men in Detroit, whose names I should definitely know. But the mayor of Detroit, like, they're doing big things up there, too. Uh, yeah.

• 55:51Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 55:51Laci Mosley?

  We need, yeah, but we need 16 of them. We might need to do a casting call. Who wants to act like they care about the city of Los Angeles?

• 55:59Speaker 07

  Central casting?

• 56:00Laci Mosley?

  No, central casting. What do we have an opportunity for you?

• 56:02Speaker 07

  Do you want to pretend?

• 56:03Laci Mosley?

  Acting is slow. Would you like to pretend like you care about the city and its people? Okay, could you make great money? Plenty of events, hair and makeup?

• 56:11Speaker 07

  Yes. Honestly, if acting has not panned out for you up until now, time for a pivot.

• 56:16Laci Mosley?

  And also, that is what politics is.

• 56:18Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 56:19Laci Mosley?

  Like, the best politicians are great actors.

• 56:22Speaker 07

  Yes, they're faking.

• 56:25Laci Mosley?

  Like, that's their whole job, is to be like...

• 56:26Speaker 07

  But it's being personable, yeah, like, hey.

• 56:28Laci Mosley?

  They're the PR consultant for the government. They're supposed to come out and be like, we're mad about this, right? That other guy, we hate that guy, right? Come to the polls, right?

• 56:36Speaker 07

  And the thing with like Abdul and like, uh, who's the hottie? John Ossoff?

• 56:41Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:42Speaker 07

  Like, now it's like attractiveness is coming into play. Like, in my head, politicians are mainly trolls.

• 56:48Laci Mosley?

  Well, they call DC Hollywood for ugly people. Now, never say this to someone from DC, because I did, and they got really mad.

• 56:54Speaker 07

  It's true.

• 56:54Laci Mosley?

  And I was like, no, I don't mean you. I mean, like, the people who are famous there, they don't have to be hot.

• 56:59Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 56:59Laci Mosley?

  That's what I mean. Not you, you're hot. There's hot people running around DC everywhere. But I just meant, like, the people in politics, like...

• 57:06Speaker 07

  Well, it's just that thing of, too, when you go to, like, DC, it's like billboards, like, we need policy reform for climate change now. And you come here, and it's like minions four out this summer. And it's just like, we value different things.

• 57:18Laci Mosley?

  Okay, no, but we also have signs that are like, syphilis, it's back.

• 57:22Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah. And it's like two old people kissing, and you're like, what?

• 57:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, apparently the nursing home is just gonna...

• 57:27Speaker 07

  I know.

• 57:27Laci Mosley?

  They get overly freaked out.

• 57:28Speaker 07

  They're bumping.

• 57:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you know, next time you go by to see Granny, you know, bring her that watercolor paint your two-year-old made. Also, maybe bring her a box of Magnum's.

• 57:38Laci Mosley?

  Just saying. Granny and they're getting cracked. So, you know.

• 57:42Speaker 07

  When did cracked come in?

• 57:44Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. It's a funny way to say it to me.

• 57:46Speaker 07

  It's kind of violent.

• 57:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I don't want to be cracked.

• 57:50Speaker 07

  Cracked, like, no.

• 57:51Laci Mosley?

  You know, men made that up, yeah, yeah. I don't say it ever as like a genuine thing.

• 57:55Speaker 07

  I loved when you said, especially Granny. I'm like, yeah, her hip is destroyed.

• 57:59Laci Mosley?

  I wouldn't be at lunch with my girls, like, yeah, she cracked last night. Like, no, it's not. There's no warm, fuzzy feeling in the words.

• 58:07Speaker 07

  No.

• 58:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, pound.

• 58:10Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 58:10Laci Mosley?

  What if it's been in the, the...

• 58:11Speaker 07

  Dude, they want to destroy everything.

• 58:13Laci Mosley?

  They do. It's like, no, bro, you're not, get away from me with that organ.

• 58:19Laci Mosley?

  So, back to what we were talking about. You see how all of that, it went into it, right? So, um, you know, every morning, a matter of seconds, all these reservations are gone. They either have to use a broker, or they have to wait, and sometimes they're not even getting. So, in October 2023, members of SoCal Dream Team Golf Club, a club for Asian and Korean golfers, wrote to LA City's golf supervisor, Rick Reinschmidt, to alert him of the brokers. So SoCal Dream Golf Club president Joseph Lee felt that the city was not doing enough to deal with these brokers. So this is, uh, Joseph Lee. Yeah.

• 59:01Speaker 07

  He looks pissed.

• 59:02Laci Mosley?

  Yes, he does. Okay, look, he said, when do we, what do we want tee offs? What do we want?

• 59:08Speaker 07

  Now! And last Saturday, when I waited four hours.

• 59:12Laci Mosley?

  Right, he's leading the, the social justice movement, um, here. And look, he's got his finger pointing down. He's like, this is an abomination. You know what? I'm with you, Mr. Lee. You get that tee, okay?

• 59:24Speaker 07

  Wait, it's annoying, like, I almost wish, like, uh, any, like, the brokerage should be able to be, that should be blocked or something. Or it should be like, if you booked with a broker, your reservation is void. Do you know what I mean?

• 59:38Laci Mosley?

  Or I feel like you shouldn't be able to get more than one reservation.

• 59:40Speaker 07

  Right.

• 59:41Laci Mosley?

  Because you're one...

• 59:42Speaker 07

  Per VPN or whatever, per, yeah.

• 59:44Laci Mosley?

  Per week.

• 59:45Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 59:45Laci Mosley?

  So at least then, like...

• 59:46Speaker 07

  Yeah, move it about, move it about.

• 59:48Laci Mosley?

  Or at least slow the people down who are using bots and stuff so that other real people who might be waiting up at 6:00 AM at the same time would have an advantage.

• 59:54Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 59:55Laci Mosley?

  In March of 2024, long-haired golf teaching pro and native Angelino Dave Fink. This is Dave Fink.

• 1:00:02Speaker 07

  I love how long-haired got in there.

• 1:00:04Laci Mosley?

  I think it's necessary. Probably one of the few guys on the course with the long hair. Yeah, he's giving like, what was, what's that show that just came out on Netflix? The Hawk?

• 1:00:13Speaker 07

  The Hawk, yeah.

• 1:00:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, The Hawk, it's giving The Hawk. So David posted a...

• 1:00:17Speaker 07

  Oh, and Ping.

• 1:00:19Laci Mosley?

  Yes, oh, yeah!

• 1:00:20Speaker 07

  I've never seen that before.

• 1:00:22Laci Mosley?

  That was my Leonardo DiCaprio moment, where you're like, and Ping!

• 1:00:26Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:00:27Laci Mosley?

  Right, there it is, the thing, yes. So he, so David Fink, he posted a viral video exposing the shadow broker scheme. He's a golf influencer with more than 200,000 followers. I didn't know golf people had influencers, but, okay. I guess he probably showed up at clubs and balls.

• 1:00:44Speaker 07

  Yeah, definitely.

• 1:00:45Laci Mosley?

  Courses.

• 1:00:46Speaker 07

  But like, there's like hot dog influencers, do you know what I mean?

• 1:00:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:00:50Speaker 07

  Everything.

• 1:00:50Laci Mosley?

  Recently had one on the show, yeah, that's true.

• 1:00:52Speaker 07

  Really? I just had my first Korean corn dog.

• 1:00:55Laci Mosley?

  Is that one on the cheese?

• 1:00:57Speaker 07

  Well, it can be. But I had original recipe, just like crispy coating, and then like a spicy mayo on top.

• 1:01:02Laci Mosley?

  How was it?

• 1:01:05Laci Mosley?

  You're making me want one.

• 1:01:06Speaker 07

  Oh, do you like a corn dog?

• 1:01:07Laci Mosley?

  I love hot dogs.

• 1:01:08Speaker 07

  Oh, they're so-

• 1:01:09Laci Mosley?

  I know it's bad, but I don't care. Something's gonna kill me.

• 1:01:12Speaker 07

  Listen-

• 1:01:13Laci Mosley?

  If it's a glizzy, that'll be the way, okay? You got me. Sorry for y'all with misophonia. That probably just made you jump out of your skin. So, in this viral video, David Fink is gonna reveal, like, a broker's menu listing prices per tee time, which during peak hours could go up to $40 per slot. Now, remember, it used to be the most expensive-

• 1:01:35Speaker 07

  It was 55?

• 1:01:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was 55. He's just doing this off the strength. So, this could be anytime. It doesn't have to be, like, the most peak time.

• 1:01:42Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:01:43Laci Mosley?

  So, it might just be what's left.

• 1:01:44Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 1:01:45Laci Mosley?

  And he's like, "You wanna golf or not? You trying to get away from your family or what? It's your only time. After this, you gotta go to your sister-in-law's baby shower. So, what you wanna do? You wanna take it or no? You know they're gonna take it." So, he used the hashtag #FreeTheTea.

• 1:01:58Speaker 07

  Good hashtag.

• 1:01:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. See, this is why when white people talk about social justice, I'll be like, "Y'all know how to organize. Please don't say that y'all need black people outside."

• 1:02:07Speaker 07

  I know.

• 1:02:08Laci Mosley?

  'Cause we got #FreeTheTea for the golf clubs. And then, please stop forgetting about- y'all, y'all used to have, you, the Klan rallies. Y'all still doing that shit? Y'all very organized when it comes to destroying Black joy?

• 1:02:17Speaker 07

  We have phone trees, for sure.

• 1:02:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, we got everybody out to the KKK rally, but now y'all talking about y'all don't know how to organize and rally up against the government. Ain't that why y'all wanted the right to bear arms anyway? Just get out there and bear 'em.

• 1:02:29Speaker 07

  Fine.

• 1:02:31Laci Mosley?

  The whole point was to fight the government with the arms.

• 1:02:33Speaker 07

  Oh, we're a conundrum.

• 1:02:35Laci Mosley?

  Right. Y'all, y'all trying to shoot up restaurants. I thought y'all wanted to fight the government.

• 1:02:39Speaker 07

  Shoot up- oh, no.

• 1:02:42Laci Mosley?

  We got you. We got you. Don't worry about that, sweetheart. I'm just like, damn. So, Patrick McFarlane, a member of the city's golf advisory committee, said, "It'd be like if someone took over a public swimming pool." We just bought a pool. And said that there would be surge pricing.

• 1:03:01Speaker 07

  Right.

• 1:03:01Laci Mosley?

  Like, "Oh, it's high noon. Y'all trying to get wet? Let's go cross a little more."

• 1:03:07Speaker 07

  Y'all trying to get wet. This is so funny.

• 1:03:09Laci Mosley?

  No, no. Trying to get wet? They got tier pricing?

• 1:03:13Speaker 07

  Or, yeah, it's like, it's like, oh, do you want air conditioning in your movie theater? It's very like, like, uh, menu, like-

• 1:03:19Laci Mosley?

  Right. Something that always existed. And now they're like, "Let's monetize it."

• 1:03:24Speaker 07

  Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's sick.

• 1:03:26Laci Mosley?

  It really is. It's like, "Oh, you wanna sit down? Okay, for how long? Put the quarters in for the sitting."

• 1:03:30Speaker 07

  Like, that plane pitch where there are people standing, like, standing room on planes?

• 1:03:35Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:03:35Speaker 07

  Have you seen that?

• 1:03:36Laci Mosley?

  I have seen that. Which, obviously, would be illegal because FAA rules. Like, you can't, everyone has to have a seatbelt.

• 1:03:42Speaker 07

  Just like an AI meme that I've been falling for? Great, awesome.

• 1:03:46Laci Mosley?

  It's okay. Some have been getting me, too. It's harder and harder to spot. Some are really terrible, and I love that. But some, like, I do have to read the comments and see if, like-

• 1:03:53Speaker 07

  Yes, I go, I do run to the comments. But also, you know what's been nice? Is like, it has taught me discernment. In that, like, when I see something, no matter what it is, I'm like, "Is this real?" Like, I, I ask myself that. Do you know what I mean? And it forces me to do some research.

• 1:04:09Laci Mosley?

  And I wish that that was what people were taking from it.

• 1:04:11Speaker 07

  I know, I know, but it's not.

• 1:04:12Laci Mosley?

  'Cause everyone else is like, "Big font letters and a photo? Must be news."

• 1:04:17Speaker 07

  Mitch McConnell's head fell off? And you're like-

• 1:04:19Laci Mosley?

  Must be news.

• 1:04:20Speaker 07

  Yes, exactly.

• 1:04:21Laci Mosley?

  Mitch McConnell's alive?

• 1:04:23Speaker 07

  If I don't see that corpse?

• 1:04:25Laci Mosley?

  He, um, if he don't get a, I wanna wave. I wanna TikTok dance. I want something. What you mean?

• 1:04:30Speaker 07

  Yeah, I've never been more convinced that someone is dead.

• 1:04:33Laci Mosley?

  I feel like we, as a, as a people, have the right to run up on his house and just, like, kick the door in and, like, go run through, like, the true meter.

• 1:04:39Speaker 07

  I don't know how that's not happened.

• 1:04:41Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Like, "You work for us, bitch."

• 1:04:43Speaker 07

  Yeah, show me him or fire his ass.

• 1:04:45Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. These days, if you want time off work, if you're like, "Oh, I got into a car accident," you gotta have a couple photos of, of, of the car or the flat tire.

• 1:04:54Speaker 07

  You know what's so funny is I had a friend who, um, used that excuse that he was in a car accident a couple times. And, uh, like, last time he did it, the, the manager was like, "Send me pictures." My friend took a baseball bat to his car

• 1:05:08Speaker 07

  to send pictures of, like, the accident.

• 1:05:14Laci Mosley?

  He-

• 1:05:15Speaker 07

  He didn't wanna lose his job.

• 1:05:16Laci Mosley?

  He dated the job that bad.

• 1:05:19Speaker 07

  I'm not saying-

• 1:05:20Laci Mosley?

  That he went full Beyoncé on his own car.

• 1:05:24Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:05:24Laci Mosley?

  Eliminated his own whip. So, he can keep his job. You know what? That's dedication. That's dedication to the bit. Your friend is my kinda scam. He said, "I'm not going down without a fight."

• 1:05:34Speaker 07

  It's so funny. He's like, "Bet, okay."

• 1:05:37Laci Mosley?

  He was like, "Hold on, let me pick my fr- pick my finger a little bit." Put the blood, put the blood on. He laying up, nigga, underneath the car. "How did you hit yourself with your own car?"

• 1:05:47Speaker 07

  There's a bat in it, yeah.

• 1:05:51Laci Mosley?

  "Told you it was a bad car accident, okay? But I could be in at 6:00, okay? I just need, like, an hour and a half, and then, and then I will be good."

• 1:05:59Speaker 07

  Oh, okay.

• 1:06:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. They said the blood gonna stop bleeding, and I'm gonna be good, yeah. Now, I'm gonna be in. Like, what?

• 1:06:06Speaker 07

  I know, I know.

• 1:06:07Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, not mad at it, okay?

• 1:06:09Speaker 07

  No, I know, it's, it's impressive.

• 1:06:10Laci Mosley?

  But if you're gonna do the car one, you need to have some photos just, like, lying around. And then, for meta purposes, you probably need to screenshot them first, send them to yourself, then download them again, and then, send them to the person you're trying to lie to. So, hopefully, that messes with the metadata on the timeframe on the photo.

• 1:06:25Speaker 07

  Unless you're dealing with a boomer, and then it's like, honestly, send them a drawing.

• 1:06:28Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:06:29Speaker 07

  And they're gonna be like, "Wow, looks bad."

• 1:06:31Laci Mosley?

  Cargo boom, kablow. Yeah, I could have the same day and a lot in college.

• 1:06:36Speaker 07

  Of course, and RIP, RIP, RIP, RIP.

• 1:06:39Laci Mosley?

  Right. But there is something so, like, macabre about, like, being like, "Let me see that obit." And I did have some professors who would be like, "Let me see that, that obit."

• 1:06:49Speaker 07

  That's so disrespectful.

• 1:06:51Laci Mosley?

  I was changing that sunrise, sunset all the time. Like, this, what day is, okay, should've sunset on. I mean, a couple days before, 'cause we had to plan a funeral, so, okay. Yeah, that's good. Like, why do I have to do this?

• 1:07:02Speaker 07

  That's dark, yeah.

• 1:07:03Laci Mosley?

  Can't we just accept the excuse? It doesn't matter.

• 1:07:05Speaker 07

  I know.

• 1:07:05Laci Mosley?

  No matter what I say, it's not getting done.

• 1:07:07Speaker 07

  I didn't do it, so now what?

• 1:07:09Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:07:10Speaker 07

  I didn't do the paper.

• 1:07:11Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:07:11Speaker 07

  So, work with me.

• 1:07:12Laci Mosley?

  Excuses are such a fun scam, 'cause they really are just a scam of ego. Because no matter what the excuse is, the result is still gonna be the same. I'm not gonna be there, or I'm gonna be late. But if I give you a reason that is dazzling enough for you, it's okay.

• 1:07:24Speaker 07

  Sure. I guess the, the, the goal is probably to get as close to honesty, like, all the time.

• 1:07:33Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 1:07:34Speaker 07

  Obviously, not on this show, but-

• 1:07:37Laci Mosley?

  So, if you're gonna do the car accident one, make sure, don't- if you get, if you see somebody else in a car accident, maybe get a couple photos of their shit.

• 1:07:44Speaker 07

  You pull over, but just to take pictures? Be like, "Thank you."

• 1:07:47Laci Mosley?

  For the archive.

• 1:07:48Speaker 07

  So much.

• 1:07:49Laci Mosley?

  For the archive. Thank you so much, guys.

• 1:07:51Speaker 07

  And I'm sorry for your loss.

• 1:07:52Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm so sorry.

• 1:07:54Laci Mosley?

  No, that is, no, that is a, this is a real serious one. This, this one's for if I'm really on thin ice. Okay, I got it, no.

• 1:08:03Speaker 07

  Like, could you, could you scooch?

• 1:08:04Laci Mosley?

  Just scooch a little bit, yeah. No, oh my goodness. That, and if you're sick, guys, or if you're gonna call out sick, the best way to call out sick is to lay down flat on your back. It changes the quality of your voice. It makes you sound, like, more tired and more sick.

• 1:08:20Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 1:08:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so if you're, like, laying down, it kinda just takes a little bit out of your voice.

• 1:08:24Speaker 07

  I bet also if you're hanging upside down, it would do-

• 1:08:26Laci Mosley?

  Lay off the edge of the bed.

• 1:08:28Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:08:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. You know, they tried to teach us that in Cosmo. It said, "New way to have horrible sex. Lay on the bed and put your neck off of the edge of the bed."

• 1:08:40Speaker 07

  That's like, standard practice, yeah.

• 1:08:44Speaker 07

  It's horrible, though. They don't really explain that, like, balls are, like, right there.

• 1:08:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's not a, I don't think we all need to be-

• 1:08:52Speaker 07

  I'm not a sword swallower.

• 1:08:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:53Speaker 07

  This isn't the, this isn't the greatest show.

• 1:08:57Laci Mosley?

  That's what Cosmo used to be. It was like, "Hey, girls, if you wanna keep a man..."

• 1:09:02Speaker 07

  Put an ice cube in your pussy.

• 1:09:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Oh, yeah, that was a real, those, that or in your mouth.

• 1:09:07Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:09:07Laci Mosley?

  Have you ever had a dick in your ear, Cosmo? That and Anne Hathaway's new movie.

• 1:09:14Speaker 07

  And stop eating, you fat bitch.

• 1:09:20Laci Mosley?

  Yo, they really used to be like-

• 1:09:22Speaker 07

  Uh, it was dark.

• 1:09:23Laci Mosley?

  12 diets.

• 1:09:26Laci Mosley?

  For girls who don't like to swallow anything but juice.

• 1:09:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's like, "You're eating nut and nut."

• 1:09:32Laci Mosley?

  And that's it. And then it'd be like, "Now, open this little wing and sniff this perfume." Fat skank. Yeah. And we bought them. We bought them.

• 1:09:42Speaker 07

  I know. We didn't know.

• 1:09:44Laci Mosley?

  We didn't know. I, I like that scam. I wanna bring it back. All my quizzes just don't hit the same.

• 1:09:48Speaker 07

  No, there's too many. It's oversaturated. And it's like, all the pop-ups and stuff like that. It's just-

• 1:09:53Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. Scams!

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• 1:12:28Laci Mosley?

  So, real journalists eventually picked up the story. So Dave wasn't alone in his conquest here. And LA Times reporter Ashley On was able to interview multiple brokers. She found out that they had communicated with their clients through a Korean app called Kakao Talk. So, most of their clients based like were Korean. Many brokers were using bots to book time slots faster than a human could. One broker said he used three to five devices with a group of friends. And that's how he secured times at 6:00 AM when they went online. He told Ashley that he started out during COVID-19 pandemic to help his grandparents who struggled with technology. So you know what?

• 1:13:06Speaker 07

  Don't blame your grandparents.

• 1:13:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, don't bring my mom and pop up into this.

• 1:13:09Speaker 07

  That's crazy.

• 1:13:10Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Like pencil had a good grandma who helped her. She was like, stop calling the scam man. Stop clicking the link. That's a good grandparent. Don't come over here trying to act like you was helping your grandparents when you were just helping yourself.

• 1:13:22Speaker 07

  Crazy.

• 1:13:22Laci Mosley?

  But also something to me, my racism spidey senses kind of wonder. If this is a Korean app, I've never heard of Kakao. I adventure. Most people on this Korean app are Korean.

• 1:13:37Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:13:38Laci Mosley?

  So what happens when the Korean app starts to take a monopoly on what is a pretty white dominated sport? And all the Koreans start to get all the tee times?

• 1:13:53Speaker 07

  The white guys are like, wait a second.

• 1:13:56Laci Mosley?

  Second.

• 1:13:56Speaker 07

  None of these people look like me.

• 1:13:58Laci Mosley?

  Right. I haven't seen these people since I was in the barbecue spot downtown.

• 1:14:02Speaker 07

  Alert the presses.

• 1:14:03Laci Mosley?

  Doing on the golf course with me. All of a sudden it got real crazy rich, didn't it Brad? And that's when they started looking into it.

• 1:14:12Speaker 07

  Crazy rich?

• 1:14:13Laci Mosley?

  Got a little crazy rich Asian on them and they were like, wait a minute.

• 1:14:18Speaker 07

  That's so funny.

• 1:14:19Laci Mosley?

  I wonder if that's how they spotted this and started doing their.

• 1:14:21Speaker 07

  I'm sure.

• 1:14:22Laci Mosley?

  Because if it was, the thing about it, if the golf course was like a bunch of random white dudes and you just think that, oh, it must be really competitive to get these things. But they were like, wait a minute, all these Koreans.

• 1:14:32Speaker 07

  It's not benefiting me?

• 1:14:36Laci Mosley?

  That's not right. Let's investigate.

• 1:14:38Speaker 07

  Call LA Times. He's like, yeah, I'm white.

• 1:14:44Laci Mosley?

  Call LA Times for this is the whitest thing ever. Like imagine being Deep Throat for the Kakao app for golf tee times. You're at the parking lot, like in your church coat, like with your cigarette, like hiding like.

• 1:14:55Speaker 07

  It's called Kakao.

• 1:14:56Laci Mosley?

  It's called Kakao. It's big in the Korean community.

• 1:15:05Laci Mosley?

  You thought they were playing mahjong. Turns out they're playing 18 holes.

• 1:15:12Laci Mosley?

  Oh lordy, that's very, you're right. This is some of the whitest reporting we've ever had. So some golfers have suggested that insiders, AKA LA City Golf Course staff, must have been helping the brokers get the tee time slots early. But that was never proven. So they didn't even turn against the cart girl.

• 1:15:28Speaker 07

  Damn.

• 1:15:29Laci Mosley?

  Said, it's you Becky. You're not just out here making penicillins. You're out here doing crime.

• 1:15:35Speaker 07

  Also, wait, what exactly is the upcharge? Like, are they making thousands of dollars?

• 1:15:41Laci Mosley?

  So our dude, the broker here was saying that he was getting $7 a surcharge per person.

• 1:15:48Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:15:48Laci Mosley?

  So I would imagine if, what was that number that we have for like what LA has been doing booking wise?

• 1:15:55Speaker 07

  $55?

• 1:15:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but for the, hold on. Okay, $7 a person, right? But according to LA's Golf Division, remember, the city's public courses host more than 1 million rounds of golf per year.

• 1:16:08Speaker 07

  So all of a sudden that's.

• 1:16:09Laci Mosley?

  Even if you could take a quarter of that action, $7 a head?

• 1:16:13Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 1:16:14Laci Mosley?

  That's $7 to add up.

• 1:16:16Speaker 07

  And from just using your fingers.

• 1:16:18Laci Mosley?

  Yes, your fingers. Just the tip of your finger. Okay, no bots. Okay, we keep it clean over here. So obviously this sparks public outrage. So Dave Fink, our investigative journalist with the hair here. He put a call out on his Instagram urging golfers who were angry about the broker situation to show up at Golf Advisory Committee, which is a meeting that happened on March 18th of 2025. The committee is an independent body of unpaid volunteers who usually don't have an audience for their meetings because it's the Golf Advisory Committee. Doesn't sound that exciting to me.

• 1:16:54Speaker 07

  No, it's like, what color should the tees be?

• 1:16:56Laci Mosley?

  Right. But at this point, I kind of want to start going to like city council meetings that are like not exciting. Like how, how much like influence and power do you think we could have if we just start showing up to the lowest attended?

• 1:17:06Speaker 07

  You know what?

• 1:17:07Laci Mosley?

  Like parts of the government?

• 1:17:08Speaker 07

  I think a lot.

• 1:17:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:10Speaker 07

  I really do think like public pressure does sway things.

• 1:17:14Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:17:14Speaker 07

  So even if it's us two, just being annoying.

• 1:17:16Laci Mosley?

  What if we just like made that kind of like a fun millennial outing? Where it's like we hit some bar or like we hit, first we hit the council meeting and it's for like fire hydrant zoning and we're really passionate.

• 1:17:30Speaker 07

  Yeah, we got 60 fire hydrants added to one block.

• 1:17:34Laci Mosley?

  And then we just go bar crawling afterwards. We're just ministers to society. We're the mob.

• 1:17:39Speaker 07

  Why not?

• 1:17:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, let's get shit done. So, you know, like at this meeting though, Dave is an influencer. So he told the girls to pull up. So look at this, look at this, they got people outside. Look at that man with his arms crossed.

• 1:17:50Speaker 07

  So white and angry.

• 1:17:52Laci Mosley?

  He is disapproving. He is disapproving like a motherfucker. You never want to see a man with that much free time cross his arms like that. No, that is a threat.

• 1:18:02Speaker 07

  He's like, I've got eight hours left on this earth and I'm spending four of them here.

• 1:18:06Laci Mosley?

  Fuck my grandkids. I will be at every golf advisory committee meeting bitch till y'all make a change. I love this. And look at this guy with his blue polo on. You know, he fed the fuck up, okay?

• 1:18:21Laci Mosley?

  He got, he got a nice like a bourbon belly.

• 1:18:24Speaker 07

  Well, even without the brokerage people, he would struggle to secure a time. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:18:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:30Speaker 07

  Cause his phone's a maxima magnification or like, he's like getting one time slot viewing at a time and he's.

• 1:18:38Laci Mosley?

  He's got the kind of phone that like, it would end up going viral if he'd sent anything ridiculous in a text. Cause fart just big as fuck. Like I'm three rows over on the airplane like.

• 1:18:49Speaker 07

  You're just watching one word scroll at a time.

• 1:18:52Laci Mosley?

  Scroll at a, yes. It's giving Star Wars.

• 1:18:55Speaker 07

  It's giving teleprompter.

• 1:18:57Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He's upset and I love that for him. So this one is obviously packed. They got this small conference room lit the fuck up. You know, it just smells like Old Spice and grass and Bengay with a little bit of like Maylocks.

• 1:19:15Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:19:16Laci Mosley?

  Little Maylocks in there.

• 1:19:19Laci Mosley?

  So they packed it up, right? And this is in this gray bungalow near the LA River. And they had standing room for our homie who's upset. We also got our nosy homie next to him who's like, y'all get it fixed?

• 1:19:30Speaker 07

  Yeah, he looks like he's like taking a break from writing his screenplay.

• 1:19:34Laci Mosley?

  Right, or maybe he's writing a screenplay about this.

• 1:19:37Speaker 07

  About, yes.

• 1:19:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:38Speaker 07

  The underbelly, the underbelly of white sports.

• 1:19:40Laci Mosley?

  Tee time.

• 1:19:43Laci Mosley?

  The underbelly of white sports is crazy. But yeah, so he looks nosy. I would be him. I love this for everyone. They got people overflowing out the door. These are, and this is also bringing together the classes. We got retirees, like our arms crossed man. You know, he collected his benefits.

• 1:20:00Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:20:00Laci Mosley?

  We've got the working class, like our tight polo man. You know, his wife got him that from Marshall's on sale. We're about to, it's like one of those bids where they about to burn the clothes and he grabs it out.

• 1:20:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:20:12Laci Mosley?

  Yes, yes. It's like they didn't go to the cruise ship gift shop. But when they got off, like on the way back to the boat, they found this, this teal shirt that they love for him.

• 1:20:20Speaker 07

  And it's his favorite, yeah.

• 1:20:21Laci Mosley?

  It's his favorite. So now they have all these people of all these different, you know, like social classes or whatever. They're all like together for the same cause. We got veterans in there and like veterans were saying this was one of the most affordable venues for exercise and relaxation for them.

• 1:20:38Speaker 07

  Oh, that's beautiful.

• 1:20:39Laci Mosley?

  Right?

• 1:20:39Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:20:40Laci Mosley?

  That honestly makes me care about this way more than I did.

• 1:20:43Speaker 07

  Oh my God, that's beautiful.

• 1:20:44Laci Mosley?

  It's everything for the veterans. Yeah, and it should be accessible and cheap.

• 1:20:48Speaker 07

  Totally.

• 1:20:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and they shouldn't have to know somebody on some secret app and pay an extra $7.

• 1:20:52Speaker 07

  Crazy. If I have to download one more app, by the way, I'm driving my car off a building.

• 1:20:58Laci Mosley?

  Like I remember when you used to see an app and be like, oh, so cute.

• 1:21:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:21:01Laci Mosley?

  So convenient.

• 1:21:02Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:21:03Laci Mosley?

  Now they're like app to live.

• 1:21:04Speaker 07

  Or for a coffee shop. I'm like, there's no reason.

• 1:21:07Laci Mosley?

  And they take your info, like even now tap to pay, certain places can get your email address, your phone number.

• 1:21:12Speaker 07

  Cause I'll get a text, you got four points. I go, four points?

• 1:21:15Laci Mosley?

  To who?

• 1:21:16Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:21:17Laci Mosley?

  I'm just sending a random text to people to say, you have four points.

• 1:21:21Laci Mosley?

  It's just a link for me to take your money. Yeah, it's, it's getting out of hand, but we need this for the vets. So both Dave Fink and Mr. Lee, who had also been attending meetings, were among the dozen to attend. The overwhelming sentiment was that players wanted to golf and they wanted it to be more affordable and accessible for the Angelinos. They offered potential solutions and pled with the LA golf officials to change the booking procedures to fight the shadow broker system.

• 1:21:48Speaker 07

  Lovely.

• 1:21:49Laci Mosley?

  Joseph Lee, an activist, remember, he himself is an active member of the LA Korean community. And he condemned the brokers and vowed to expose how they are monetizing, like monetizing a public good. He went against his own Korean community.

• 1:22:06Speaker 07

  Good for him.

• 1:22:06Laci Mosley?

  That's how impassioned he is about it. Yeah, yeah. You might have to stay away from barbecue spots, but you know, he's out that up. I don't care.

• 1:22:14Speaker 07

  We need more of that in the white community.

• 1:22:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we actually need all of it in the white community. Okay, honestly, Joseph Lee, let your Korean brethren get their, get their tee times. You turn on your people.

• 1:22:29Laci Mosley?

  Try them now.

• 1:22:30Speaker 07

  Okay, so I need to get all the tee times and give them away to non-white people.

• 1:22:34Laci Mosley?

  That's a start. I feel like as soon as social justice goes, we got, we got priorities.

• 1:22:39Speaker 07

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:22:40Laci Mosley?

  But you know what? We do need a golf guy. Everybody needs a golf guy.

• 1:22:43Speaker 07

  I'll hope where I can.

• 1:22:44Laci Mosley?

  Okay, Zach, you're helping where you can.

• 1:22:45Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 1:22:46Laci Mosley?

  You're contributing, okay?

• 1:22:46Speaker 07

  Okay, oh, here I come. Here I could come.

• 1:22:49Laci Mosley?

  Here I could come. Yes. So, you know, Joseph Lee is like, "I'm exposed, y'all." He said, "We're chasing them till the end, and we'll keep you updated." Is the end the 18th hole? Where's, where's the end? I don't know where the end is.

• 1:23:04Speaker 07

  That is a very, yeah.

• 1:23:05Laci Mosley?

  But the crowd applauded when Joseph said this.

• 1:23:07Speaker 07

  Good.

• 1:23:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:08Speaker 07

  Well, that's the thing, too. People like, we do want blood in everything that we do. I think it's a lot of like, we're angry about other things, and then like, they're all fueling into like, this issue in this moment. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:23:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:22Speaker 07

  So like, "Oh, I have time, and I will pursue this till the end."

• 1:23:25Laci Mosley?

  And it's also like, if you're gonna do it, then do it to your fullest ability.

• 1:23:28Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:23:28Laci Mosley?

  So you know, Joseph Luther Ping, he got up here, he gave these speeches, and he let the girls know, like, to freedom.

• 1:23:34Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:23:35Laci Mosley?

  Okay?

• 1:23:38Laci Mosley?

  I was like, "Okay, I had a dream."

• 1:23:40Speaker 07

  Free at last, free at last. Golf is free at last.

• 1:23:43Laci Mosley?

  Free at last, okay? That any man could put his ball into a hole on a Saturday morning. Somebody gotta fight for it.

• 1:23:53Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:23:53Laci Mosley?

  So the head of the city's golf program, Rick Reinschmidt, he didn't even bother showing up to this meeting.

• 1:24:00Speaker 07

  Of course not.

• 1:24:01Laci Mosley?

  Now, this is his whole thing. And he didn't even come. Rick Reinschmidt, I don't, I don't like that. This is your whole thing. So keeping L.A. golf accessible, the Los Angeles Department of Recreation and Parks, love of parks and recreation.

• 1:24:13Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:24:14Laci Mosley?

  So Leslie Knope is now involved.

• 1:24:15Speaker 07

  Yay!

• 1:24:16Laci Mosley?

  Prorupted by the social media uproar and subsequent media coverage, started an investigation. They partnered with the city's attorney's office and the staff at NBC Sports Next for Golf, which is the whole name of that thing. NBC Sports Next for Golf.

• 1:24:32Speaker 07

  Too much.

• 1:24:33Laci Mosley?

  Too many things.

• 1:24:34Speaker 07

  Too much.

• 1:24:34Laci Mosley?

  But NBC Sports, it gives, it gives like, legal plausible deniability. It was like, "No, it wasn't NBC. That was NBC Sports."

• 1:24:41Speaker 07

  Next for Golf.

• 1:24:42Laci Mosley?

  Next for Golf.

• 1:24:44Speaker 07

  Cousin.

• 1:24:44Laci Mosley?

  Too much.

• 1:24:45Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Twice removed.

• 1:24:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:48Speaker 07

  Esquire.

• 1:24:48Laci Mosley?

  Global.

• 1:24:51Laci Mosley?

  We don't know them. So, the city of L.A. implemented a pilot program. Now, when someone books a tee time for a public golf course, they have to pay a $10 deposit on their greens fee, discouraging brokers from snatching up tee times they won't use via bot, which seems to be working. I love that they were like, "How can we make this more convenient for everyone? Put in another fee."

• 1:25:14Speaker 07

  Crazy.

• 1:25:15Laci Mosley?

  They couldn't figure out another way.

• 1:25:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, exactly. Like verifying that it's a human or something. This is what also chaps my ass about all of these things. Like, all these big companies could block bots.

• 1:25:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:28Speaker 07

  They could do it, but they know there's more money in having the bots amidst us all. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:25:35Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Because they're not taking the financial, like, hit that we are from buying it from the resellers. So all they're doing is making sure that they guarantee that they, the tickets were sold for what they, they got their cut.

• 1:25:46Speaker 07

  Yeah, they're like, "Oh, look at us."

• 1:25:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like, "We're all sold out in 20 seconds."

• 1:25:49Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:25:50Laci Mosley?

  We sold out MetLife in, in 10 minutes.

• 1:25:53Speaker 07

  Bummer.

• 1:25:54Laci Mosley?

  But they're like, "If the seat's empty, we don't give a fuck. If the concert's not good, we don't care. We got our money."

• 1:25:58Speaker 07

  We got paid, yeah.

• 1:25:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and I hate that the L.A., the city of L.A. was like, "We'll save you. How about a $10 fee?" That'll save you. Come, give me a hug. Give me $10.

• 1:26:08Speaker 07

  Also, shouldn't, shouldn't it be as simple as like, having a profile with the, the site?

• 1:26:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:14Speaker 07

  You know what I mean?

• 1:26:15Laci Mosley?

  Or only being able to purchase one tee time per person.

• 1:26:20Speaker 07

  Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

• 1:26:21Laci Mosley?

  Like, what?

• 1:26:22Speaker 07

  Annoying.

• 1:26:23Laci Mosley?

  So, shout out to the golfers, though, because there was a group of local golfers that filed a class action lawsuit against the city, arguing that they ultimately failed to control the brokerage system. So even though they were like, "Hey, hey, hey, hey, we have an idea. Fees to protect you." They're like, "No, okay, how about, uh, files? Like, we're filing a suit against you in court."

• 1:26:45Speaker 07

  Good.

• 1:26:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so, I mean, I'm, I'm gonna keep the L.A. golf community in my prayers.

• 1:26:52Speaker 07

  Oh, are you? They're not gonna make mine tonight, but I'll try for tomorrow.

• 1:26:57Laci Mosley?

  I think your priorities are fucked up.

• 1:27:01Speaker 07

  And God, please help the, the golfers of Los Angeles.

• 1:27:05Laci Mosley?

  L.A. city of public golfers specifically.

• 1:27:07Speaker 07

  And stop the lynchings.

• 1:27:09Laci Mosley?

  Right? That's the last thing?

• 1:27:11Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, that's, I'm just saying how ludicrous it all sounds.

• 1:27:16Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it is. No, it is. It is very ludicrous. I, I feel like the scam, if I were to rate, and I want to know your opinion, too, before we go. Um, I would say, one, this is a pretty victimless crime. If you have, except for the veterans. Because I was gonna say, if you have a disposable income to golf in general, that comes with a barrier of entry of like, having the clubs, and like, are they measured? Are they, you know, do they, blah, blah, blah? Um, you know, just like the greens fees, the things that you incur, you know, that is a barrier to entry. It's not like pickup basketball, where you can just find a court.

• 1:27:47Speaker 07

  A court, yeah.

• 1:27:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So that, to me, like, takes a little bit of the edge off, because I'm like, who are we really hurting? Except for the veterans. I want them to have access to golf if it like, helps with their PTSD or whatever.

• 1:27:58Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:27:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:59Speaker 07

  I, um, yeah, I'm a big, uh, when it comes to scams, I love scamming up.

• 1:28:04Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:28:04Speaker 07

  Like, when you're like, yeah.

• 1:28:05Laci Mosley?

  They do a lot.

• 1:28:06Speaker 07

  And I hate, obviously, scamming down, which I guess is everyone's take on it. But, um, yeah, when I hear golf, obviously, nothing comes to mind. It's like a blank slate. For me, I'm like, don't care if, if golf was removed entirely from the planet.

• 1:28:20Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:28:20Speaker 07

  That's okay with me. You wouldn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I'd miss NBC Next Up for Golf now, but...

• 1:28:27Laci Mosley?

  Global.

• 1:28:27Speaker 07

  Global.

• 1:28:28Laci Mosley?

  But also reasonable, depending on who you ask.

• 1:28:30Speaker 07

  Dot net. Um, but, yeah, uh, the brokerage thing is so slimy, and it, I put them in the Ticketmaster thing, which also chaps my ass.

• 1:28:40Laci Mosley?

  Oh, same.

• 1:28:41Speaker 07

  And like, the fees, I'm so sick of even booking something, and then it's like, "It's $19.95," then you get it, and it's $31.02.

• 1:28:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, just tell me what it is all in.

• 1:28:50Speaker 07

  Oh, my God. Yes, because now, now I'm at the finish line, and I'm pissed off.

• 1:28:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:54Speaker 07

  Um...

• 1:28:55Laci Mosley?

  Like, but you're gonna finish, though. We got you on the hook.

• 1:28:56Speaker 07

  Exactly.

• 1:28:57Laci Mosley?

  And that, yeah, you're right. That is total bullshit.

• 1:28:59Speaker 07

  You have eight minutes to complete your...

• 1:29:00Laci Mosley?

  Also, it's bullshit on Ticketmaster that if you buy a more expensive ticket, then all of a sudden, your Ticketmaster fees go up in proportion to the cost of your ticket, as if the, the system has to do more work for me to get this more expensive ticket than it does for me to get these obsolete tickets. Ticketmaster, I'll kill you!

• 1:29:14Speaker 07

  A ticketing site like Ticketmaster should be $1.95 per ticket.

• 1:29:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:21Speaker 07

  There is, I can't, you could not convince me otherwise. It doesn't make sense.

• 1:29:26Laci Mosley?

  No, it doesn't, but they're like, they know that at this point, we're not fighting back. So they're like, "We're gonna charge you for everything."

• 1:29:32Speaker 07

  Whatever we want, yeah.

• 1:29:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, until you guys decide to organize.

• 1:29:35Speaker 07

  So ultimately, how do we rate scams? How do we rate this one?

• 1:29:39Laci Mosley?

  So, I mean, you can rate it however you want. We don't have a specific system.

• 1:29:41Speaker 07

  Okay, okay.

• 1:29:42Laci Mosley?

  Um, I think where I fall on this in the spectrum is like, the scam itself, I'm not that mad at. Um, the only bummer is like, the veterans not being able to access to stuff. But other than that, I'm kind of like, well, they found a way to be the middle man. They found a demand, and then they slid on in there, and...

• 1:29:57Speaker 07

  Yeah, ultimately, I'm not proud of them in any way.

• 1:30:02Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:30:03Speaker 07

  Um, I'm, I'm like a...

• 1:30:04Laci Mosley?

  I'm proud of the ingenuity, but I don't, yeah, but I don't like it, because shit is expensive enough. We don't need more fees.

• 1:30:10Speaker 07

  Totally. It's like, find a way to, to charge, like, I don't know, rich guys in like, stock trading. You know what I mean? Like...

• 1:30:19Laci Mosley?

  People who produce nothing and help the world in no way. Scam them. You're right. Because these are people who want to touch grass, quite literally.

• 1:30:25Speaker 07

  Yeah, and just get, like, that's, that's so annoying to me.

• 1:30:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's like a human pleasure that you're like, now you're like a...

• 1:30:32Speaker 07

  It's gross.

• 1:30:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're siphoning off of. You're a parasite on joy.

• 1:30:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if I met this person at a party, I'd be like, "Oh, you're disgusting."

• 1:30:43Laci Mosley?

  And you know they'd be bragging about it, like, "This is kind of fucking tech, bro." Like, "I just erupted the space."

• 1:30:48Speaker 07

  So I just set it up, and I, yeah.

• 1:30:50Laci Mosley?

  "I got a couple bots."

• 1:30:51Speaker 07

  Boom, $58 in my pocket. I'm like, "You suck."

• 1:30:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:55Speaker 07

  Um, so yeah, I'm, I, I would cross the street to avoid this person.

• 1:31:01Laci Mosley?

  You know what, Zach? I, I, you're changing my mind here. Itself, not that harmful, but, but it is scamming the average consumer who's actually just trying to have joy in what is stacking up to be a pretty joyless world. So I, I think I'm on your side, especially when we pair it with the resellers. Yeah.

• 1:31:18Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:31:18Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. It's a gross, it's a gross way to do it.

• 1:31:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:31:21Laci Mosley?

  Yes, well, as always on this podcast, one, we want to thank you, Zach, for joining the congregation.

• 1:31:26Speaker 07

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:31:26Laci Mosley?

  And before we end service, we like to ask, where would you like to be found? Any socials, anything you want to plug?

• 1:31:32Speaker 07

  What if I just listed my home address?

• 1:31:35Laci Mosley?

  That's where you want to be found.

• 1:31:37Speaker 07

  Also, did you know that like, our information is at, on like, whitepages.com unless you like, tell them to take it off?

• 1:31:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I had to tell them to take it off.

• 1:31:44Speaker 07

  Crazy. Um, you can find me at zachnoehtowers everywhere. Z-A-C-H-N-O-E-T-O-W-E-R-S. And you can watch my first stand-up special that Bob the Drag Queen produced.

• 1:31:55Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:31:55Speaker 07

  That's on YouTube. It's called Twink Death. It's, it's fun. It's, it's a good time, and I'm really proud of it.

• 1:32:00Laci Mosley?

  It's a great name, too.

• 1:32:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:32:02Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Well, if you want to be like Pencil, snitch on your friends, your family members, your enemies, and yourself at [email protected]. Just make sure the scam is retired, because we don't want a what? Yes, fuck up your bag. Amen. You can follow us at scamgoddispod to see all of the photos and the videos and everything we have coming up. If you want to follow me and my shenanigans, D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I, Diva Lacy, on all platforms except for TikTok, where I'm Laci Mosley and I'm mostly lurk. Uh, I will change that. I will change that, I swear. Get my book wherever books are sold, Scam Goddess. Um, and then watch Scam Goddess on Hulu, or, you know, do things. Put things in your ears and your body. But congregation, I want you to...

• 1:32:41Speaker 07

  Put things in your ears and your bodies.

• 1:32:43Laci Mosley?

  Use your fingers.

• 1:32:44Speaker 07

  I love it. Use your fingers and fill yourself up.

• 1:32:47Laci Mosley?

  And fill yourself up with my content. Oh, yeah, congregation, get out there and, and stay, stay swinging.

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