Pod Insights Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce Kylie & Kevin Hart on Their 5-Year Grudge, FAFO Parenting, Eagles Fan Jail & Kylie's Dad Cameo | Ep. 71 About this episode Kylie’s back for a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie brought to you by Seventh Generation and this time she’s chatting with hilarious stand up comedian Kevin Hart (28:25)! Kylie and Kevin talk about their intense Eagles fandom, parenting four kids and Kylie addresses an old grudge…
Kylie starts the show by wishing a Happy Father’s Day to Jason, her father-in-law Ed Kelce and her dad Big Ed aka Skeeter (1:58)! Then in NGL announcements we get some very DISCREET, very secretive hints about two upcoming special episodes of the show… (5:48)
Then, Kylie gives us the Second Annual Mother’s Guide to Father’s Day: gifts for him that are actually for you (7:15)! Perfect for all the Type C Real Ones who haven’t purchased their Father’s Day gifts yet… beware of that outdoor furniture and bottle of wine…
We also hear about the hilarious horrors of potty training in the Kelce household in honor of National Potty Training Month (12:01) and then we get the first official cameo from Kylie’s dad Big Ed McDevitt (19:55)!
Kylie is then joined by Kevin Hart to first address a years-long fashion-related grudge she’s been holding against him… (29:08) Kevin and Kylie talk it out and immediately bond over their crazy Eagles fandom and how it once (or twice) landed Kevin in the fan “jail” at The Vet (34:42). They also bond over their hate for the Cowboys and how they would react if their kids ever dated a Dallas fan (37:55).
Then Kevin and Kylie talk about being parents of four and Kevin explains what he calls the “head thumping” phase of raising toddlers (46:55). They also bond over what to do when your kids attempt to start swearing in front of you…
You can find even more clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Millie on our YouTube channel on More Sh*t Monday.
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0:00 Kylie Kelce? I wanted people to really quickly hear from my current dad.
0:05 Speaker 01 Why, you got another one?
0:07 Kylie Kelce? And I know that you recently just got roasted on a very big stage, so I don't want to pile on, but I'm gonna.
0:11 Speaker 01 Get it all off your chest.
0:13 Kylie Kelce? Yeah.
0:13 Speaker 01 I get it.
0:13 Kylie Kelce? Do your kids also know the expression, "Fuck the Cowboys"?
0:16 Speaker 01 My kids know the expression, "Fuck the Cowboys" for life.
0:19 Kylie Kelce? Good.
0:20 Speaker 01 Yeah. Yeah, they're good kids. The head-thumping phase is really important. It's like the phase where you let your child bump their goddamn head.
0:28 Kylie Kelce? Not gonna lie, as our Father's Day craft, I have held off on doing the handprints for six years now. But considering I have to cater to a range of six to one,
0:44 Kylie Kelce? I think this year might be the handprint year.
0:50 Kylie Kelce? I don't know.
0:52 Kylie Kelce? Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there. Let's get this podcast started.
1:01 Kylie Kelce? Welcome to a special Father's Day edition of Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original, brought to you by Seventh Generation. I'm your host, Kylie Kelce. I married my husband that I now have four kids with, so I get to wish him a Happy Father's Day. Happy Father's Day, Jay. Woo, woo.
1:18 Kylie Kelce? That would have been a good one.
1:22 Speaker 02 Hang on, it takes me some time to find it.
1:24 Kylie Kelce? Mother. Start the Jeopardy music.
1:32 Kylie Kelce? Thank you. Thank you. I'm also a daughter-in-law to the one and only Ed Kelsey, so Happy Father's Day to Ed. I'm gonna tell you what my dad always says. That's two Eds are better than one. And on that note, of course, to round out the trifecta here, I'm a proud daughter of Big Ed McDevitt, the best dad in the world. Happy Father's Day, Skeeter. When we were growing up, I would typically get my dad a Chunky, which is a candy bar. If you haven't seen it, it's in a silver, it's a little square silver wrapper. And, um, or a Tasty Cake Pie, because he's a sweets kind of guy. But what I will tell you is, is that that is a, like, the bare minimum for a dad that who, like, truly...
2:18 Kylie Kelce? Is the best dad in the world. I am so grateful that I had the opportunity to have him as a dad, have him support me, have him understand, uh, supporting girls and lifting his daughters up and making sure that we felt like we could conquer the world, uh, making sure that we felt like we could be independent, making sure that we felt empowered, all of the things that he made sure to support us in doing, um, he's the best. Shout out to Skeeter. Also, the real ones wanted to know, I think for the Father's Day episode, we need a picture of Tilly and Big Ed. Absolutely, I will. Let's put that in right here. I'm gonna find one where we're done recording and I for sure will put Tilly and Big Ed
3:03 Kylie Kelce? in this. It's gonna be ridiculous. It's gonna be a spectacle and I love it for us. Coming up on today's Father's Day special, it might be Father's Day, but it's also potty training awareness month. So I figured I'd blend the two and talk about what it's like potty training kids with Jason. I'm also bringing back our Father's Day gift guide for the second annual Mother's Guide to Father's Day, gifts for him that are actually for you. We've got some very good suggestions this year, Real Ones, so stay tuned for that. After, I'm gonna be joined by someone I have no business speaking to. Yep. Absolutely none. Standup comedy legend, Birds fan, and fellow parent of four. Kevin Hart. Yep.
3:47 Kylie Kelce? We were doing it. I do, I think you should stay tuned because I get some clarity on something that has been weighing on my mind for quite some time at the top of this interview. So I need you guys to lock in.
4:09 Kylie Kelce? And I want to get out in front of this and say that I don't know that I necessarily hold grudges, but I remember. Before we get into all that, a few NGL announcements. First up, this upcoming Wednesday is one of my favorite events of the whole year. That's why I'm wearing my shirt. Do you see my shirt? That's right. It's Shorebirds. We have the Team 62 fundraiser benefiting Eagles Autism Foundation at the Ocean Drive in Sea Isle. It is a guest bartending event. Tickets are sold out, but we stay authentic to the Ocean Drive and what they do. So if you show up
4:49 Kylie Kelce? to the Ocean Drive the day of the event, doors open at 4:00 PM for general admission. It is a $10 cover, which is the standard cover for the Ocean Drive throughout the summer, and you can get in. You just have to wait in line. So come through. It is something that is sheer chaos, batshit crazy, an absolute dumpster fire, and it's one of the best days of the summer. So last year, we raised just over $1 million for the Eagles Autism Foundation. I believe it was within 36 hours. So this year, between the Ocean
5:31 Kylie Kelce? Drive event and Beer Bowl, which are back-to-back days, again, we are hoping to raise over that. And guess what, real ones? We're once again taping a very special episode at the shore. We need you to ask us some things. So please send in all your questions about bikini waxes, having a beard, wearing flip flops, doing a podcast with your brother, when he's going to embrace cat life. You'll never guess who it is. Next announcement, the special episodes just keep coming because I also might be going on a girl's trip, and it might be with one of your favorite former NGL guests ever. Maybe. Because we might have to aller à Paris.
6:27 Kylie Kelce? Voyager, vacances avec les filles?
6:34 Kylie Kelce? Peut-être?
6:36 Kylie Kelce? Je ne sais pas.
6:41 Kylie Kelce? I think that it is going to be magie
6:47 Kylie Kelce? avec une souris.
6:54 Kylie Kelce? Oui? Tu comprends? I'll give you even more hints next week, but préparez-vous pour le 2 juillet.
7:04 Kylie Kelce? That's it for our announcements next up.
7:09 Kylie Kelce? Uh, next up, if you're still thinking about what to get the father of your children, I've got you covered with our second annual Mother's Guide to Father's Day gifts for him that are actually for you. Some of the favorites from last year were planning a special Just Dad and the Kids outing. No moms allowed, because what better day to truly embrace being a dad with Just Dad activities? Yeah. Or clothes you would like him to start wearing. And a couples vacation. Again, you want to be careful with those, because if you want him to wear a banana hammock, you better know that that's probably going to result in him Father's Day-ing by fathering
7:53 Kylie Kelce? another child, if you catch my drift. Those all still stand as great gifts, but here's this year's all-new guide. Number one, starting out with a fan favorite, a couples massage. Yeah, that's right. Has he been saying his back hurts? You know, now that I think of it?
8:12 Kylie Kelce? So does mine. Yeah. So does the rest of my body. From, um...
8:20 Kylie Kelce? Birthing children. I know it's been a minute, but I'm gonna use it. How about that? Because a couples massage means everyone wins. So you just get some childcare.
8:32 Kylie Kelce? And then you guys go together. Number two, backyard sports equipment for dad. And the kids, okay? A new soccer net, a pitching machine, maybe a golf net.
8:48 Kylie Kelce? Great choice, because then he gets outside and gets to do activities with the kids.
8:58 Kylie Kelce? Now, the catch here is, is that the idea is that you would then stay in the house.
9:05 Kylie Kelce? And maybe get some quiet time, or again, some nobody needs me time. I would be the opposite. I would go outside and I would play with them. But this is a great choice for people who think that they could kick kids and dad out of the house to go do outside activities. Okay, think about it. Next, number three, brand new cookware. This includes, but is not limited to, a brand new grill, a cast iron skillet, a pizza oven. Get creative with it, ladies. Have you been craving a fresh rack of ribs? Problem solved. Get him a smoker. Yeah, that's right. You could also get him an arrangement of, uh, of, um, barbecue spices. That could also encourage him to feel inspired.
9:50 Kylie Kelce? Yeah. Let him, let him cook it up, ladies. I'm into that. Let's encourage even the smallest interest in cooking, okay?
10:01 Kylie Kelce? Let's sit down and eat food that someone else makes. Number four, if you like a nice beverage, might I suggest an expensive bottle of wine that otherwise you would never buy for yourself? Yeah, this is a special occasion. Toast to your man. Being the father of your children. That's right. Pour yourself a fat glass. Both of you, of course, but pour your glass a little fatter.
10:31 Kylie Kelce? Just a thought.
10:33 Kylie Kelce? Yeah, I don't necessarily love wine. But I love it for you. And that's what counts. Guys, while you're at it.
10:45 Kylie Kelce? Make sure you grab those new wine glasses because when else are you going to get the stemless wine glasses and where else are you going to put the fancy wine? Am I right? Do it. And coming in at number five, literally any new piece of furniture you've been eyeing for the house. That's right. If it's been in your cart, complete it because what's his is yours. And if it's a new sofa, you guys are definitely going to enjoy scooching your little high knees next to each other, sitting comfortably and watching anything but Love Island. Right? I know.
11:29 Kylie Kelce? Or a new patio set so that when your kids go to bed and you need to decompress, you can go outside and sit under the stars all romantic. Again, careful. Too much romance, you might end up with another one. That's it for Mother's Guide to Father's Day Gifts. Let me know what other gifts you get for the dads in your life that are actually for mom. Tag at @NGOwithKylie, we'll share some of our favorites. All right, let's keep it moving with a new edition of Can I Be Honest? Brought to you by Pull-Ups. In honor of June being National Potty Training Awareness Month, I'm going to get very honest about potty training in the Kelsey house. Yeah, we've had a couple accidents.
12:13 Kylie Kelce? We've had a lot of successes and I think that you should focus on those, but not right now because why would we tell stories about the successes and not talk about the shit that happened in the kitchen floor? It literally was a turd on the kitchen floor. I started out potty training [bleep] with one of the little mini potties. The ones where when they're done, you have to like dump the bowl into the toilet and flush it.
12:47 Kylie Kelce? It was not the way to go. That wasn't our potty training journey. We quickly figured out that what we needed was a potty seat for on top of our actual potty. Because I thought that the way we were going to get through it was to put the potty seat downstairs so that she didn't feel like she was away from everything and that she would sit, that we, there was one day I let her watch Miss Rachel while she was sitting on the potty as if that was going to help her. It didn't. She was just naked sitting in the living room.
13:17 Kylie Kelce? So, uh, the one day I tried to ask her to go potty on that potty. I was in the kitchen doing something and she didn't want to be left alone. So we put the potty in the kitchen. She sat on it for a while and then she got up and walked around for a minute and then promptly squatted directly next to the potty and took a dump on the floor.
13:41 Kylie Kelce? That was the end of that. So then we ended up doing potty on the actual potty with a potty seat. Specifically, one that we have loved is one that has like laddered steps up to the potty so that they can do it themselves. Jason and I very much tag team this activity. It happens to end up being in a very joking manner.
14:08 Kylie Kelce? I will try to get my kids to call for dad.
14:13 Kylie Kelce? In other words, when they tell me I need to go potty, I'll say, great. You go up and get started. And when you're all done, dad will come and wipe your hiney.
14:25 Kylie Kelce? That is key because
14:30 Kylie Kelce? when they say, dad, dad, I'm all done pooping. Dad, he can't help himself. He has to go. He really can't. I will tell you what.
14:46 Kylie Kelce? I feel like some people understand this.
14:51 Kylie Kelce? When your kids, when your kids, I don't know about other people's kids. My kids have all gone through a very mom phase where it's mom this, mom that. I'm not leaving mom. It's not dad, it's mom. It's a, it's not a very long phase, but it's sometime with, with certain kids, it was intense. And it, it really helps me in this, trying to trick the kids into calling for dad specifically. Sometimes they do it, obviously. Sometimes they do it on their own without being prompted. But Jason's a sucker for when they call for him because he's like, yeah, they called me, not you.
15:34 Kylie Kelce? And so it works out to my benefit.
15:39 Kylie Kelce? And also it's adorable that he's like, they called my name. They called for me. And I'm like, yeah, they did. Go wipe that ass. Just go wipe the poop off their butt. Speaking of I'm all done pooping, it's been a year since the Ellie moment on the other podcast. So I figured I'd give a butt wiping update. We have two that are fully taking care of themselves. And Benny takes care of herself, but likes to check in when it's a number two, if you will.
16:14 Kylie Kelce? When she has to get a little more in depth.
16:19 Kylie Kelce? I did ask the real ones when they stopped wiping their kids butts and the consensus seemed to be kindergarten. I would say that this is the case for the most part, but much like every other freaking situation. When one kid starts doing it, the next kid decides that maybe it's my turn too. And then the next kid jumps in and they're like, hey, I can do it too. So it gets consecutively smoother, it seems. Prior to the being summoned to wipe a butt phase, we have been in the potty training trenches with three of our four. And there's a few things that have consistently worked for us. Number one, timers. I have to set a timer. I'm busy doing other things. I'll forget, they'll forget,
17:03 Kylie Kelce? and then it's too far gone. And a lot of times you end up running and potentially having an accident directly in front of the potty, which is a ridiculous phenomenon. The second thing that we're doing is picking up on signals. They do a lot of pee pee dancing. You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's when your knees go together and you're just sort of like, almost like cricketing your thighs. Okay? That means they need to go to the bathroom.
17:27 Kylie Kelce? Now, if your kids are anything like my kids, some of them might swear
17:34 Kylie Kelce? deep, deep in their soul that they don't have to go. They're lying to your face. The thing that you should always push is that, we'll try. That's it. We'll just try. And in line with that, they can try for the next tip, which is the treat system. A little candy would be great. Okay? Where you can give one candy for trying, and two candies for doing it.
18:03 Kylie Kelce? Maybe four little candies for a number two, or maybe, maybe one candy for a number one and two candies for a number two. That lines up nicely. The other thing that I found invaluable are pull-ups. I really love the fact that they are there for you to make sure that you're not going to end up in a messy situation. Because there's something not so great about when your child comes to you, and they were wearing undies because you're potty training, and they say, "I peed." And you say, "Where?" And they say, "I don't know."
18:50 Kylie Kelce? Because now you're looking for a puddle and worse when it's not a puddle on a hardwood floor or a tile floor, then you're feeling around a carpet.
19:02 Kylie Kelce? I've been there a couple of times.
19:05 Kylie Kelce? Pull-ups avoids that. Pull-ups now has a new learning layer. It's something that I wish I had when I was training the older girls. It really is a game changer. It's designed to help kids learn wet from dry. So it will actually feel wet and then it will wick the moisture away from their skin. So they don't have a problem with any type of skin irritation. Very excited to try the pull-ups learning layer with Finn. For any of you who are going through potty training right now. Good luck. I really think that's the only thing left there is to say. It sucks.
19:39 Kylie Kelce? I should say it stinks, pun intended. And that does it for Can I Be Honest? Brought to you by Pull-Ups. Kevin Hart is coming up, but first let's get to this special Father's Day edition of Doom Scroll of the Week brought to you by Seventh Generation. First up, there's a trend on TikTok right now where people are referring to their dads as their current dad and the reactions have been hilarious.
20:01 Speaker 03 Okay, guys, so I am here with my current dad.
20:04 Speaker 01 Current? What's that supposed to mean?
20:07 Speaker 03 Just like you're currently my dad.
20:10 Speaker 01 I'm your father. Current dad, what? That was dumb.
20:17 Speaker 01 Go on.
20:23 Kylie Kelce? He said go on. I'm assuming that this is stemming from the TikTok trend that was when people were setting up a video in a similar way and saying, uh, this is my current husband.
20:40 Kylie Kelce? Now, I see the humor in it. I think it's funny. Big Ed, I don't.
20:48 Kylie Kelce? I don't know that he would have a reaction to this. I'm assuming he would catch it. I think he would.
20:54 Kylie Kelce? Probably say, what? Should we see what he does?
20:59 Kylie Kelce? For you, Queen Emma, fine.
21:08 Kylie Kelce? Prophy.
21:09 Speaker 04 Hi, yeah.
21:10 Kylie Kelce? Are you at work right now? You're at home.
21:12 Speaker 04 Yes, I'm in Melbourne.
21:14 Kylie Kelce? Why?
21:15 Speaker 04 What's that?
21:16 Kylie Kelce? Why, what really got going on?
21:17 Speaker 04 I had to pick a TV up, I ate a sandwich at home and came up here.
21:23 Kylie Kelce? Um, I'm recording the podcast right now, but I wanted people to, um, really quickly hear from my current dad.
21:30 Speaker 04 Why, you got another one?
21:36 Kylie Kelce? He's proud of himself for that one, huh?
21:39 Speaker 04 That was good, you gotta admit it.
21:41 Kylie Kelce? That was good. You were, you were on your toes with that one, I like that.
21:44 Speaker 04 Yes, yeah. Don't have to call the doctor on that one.
21:50 Kylie Kelce? Okay, that's it, I love you.
21:53 Kylie Kelce? Okay, bye.
21:56 Kylie Kelce? Yep, there's dad.
21:59 Kylie Kelce? Oh god, I love him so much, okay.
22:04 Kylie Kelce? If I convince Wyatt or Ellie to say this, I don't know, I don't know how Jason would feel that. I do think the girls are gonna have a really good time when they're older, like teenagers messing with Jason. And I think that Jason is going to be a really good sport about it. And I think he's gonna play along just enough until he's had enough.
22:29 Kylie Kelce? I'm so excited to watch it. Oh god. Yep, it's gonna be fun. And the last scroll, this is a throwback to the first ever TikTok I posted. And this is clearly a Queen Emma attempt to get me to cry. Oh, I know what this clip is. Don't, why you gotta bring Winnie into this?
22:46 Kylie Kelce? Yep, I'm not looking.
22:50 Kylie Kelce? Look at Winnie and Baba.
22:58 Kylie Kelce? Yeah.
23:06 Kylie Kelce? Yeah. You did that, didn't you? Do you feel good about yourself?
23:12 Speaker 02 No.
23:13 Kylie Kelce? Interesting.
23:17 Kylie Kelce? These, um, I love these kind of moments. I have so many pictures of Jason like on the beach with our girls, outside with the girls where they are so far away that I'm sure they didn't know that I was sniping pictures of them. I love watching Jason be a dad. Our girls love him more than anything on this planet. And he is so caring. He's so gentle. He's so sweet. And then he's also like the perfect mix of he'll throw them under the couch. He will roughhouse. He will do all the ridiculous things that mom won't.
23:59 Kylie Kelce? He also has my back. It is an absolute honor to get to parent with him. And the tiny humans that we've made are, I mean, I'm so biased when I say this, they're so cute.
24:13 Kylie Kelce? They're sweet most of the time. And, uh, it really is so much fun to watch him be a dad and he's so good at it. He's so good at it. He truly, I think he understands that like, if everything else went to shit, at the very least, he will always still be a dad and he puts,
24:35 Kylie Kelce? a lot of emphasis on that.
24:39 Kylie Kelce? So, how do you fathers say to him, yeah? Yeah. That's it for Dooms Girl of the Week, brought to you by Seventh Generation. Coming up, I'm about to be joined by another father of four, Kevin Hart, right after these messages. With four little girls, I know sometimes we can all be a little extra. When people have to pack up three stuffies just to leave the house, make sure their purse is packed with their rocks and their markers. God only knows where they're going to draw with those, which is exactly how I know what does and doesn't need to be so extra. So many dish soaps are loaded with dyes and artificial fragrances that do more to put on a show than actually clean. That's the wrong kind of extra. And that's where Seventh Generation comes in.
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26:05 Kylie Kelce? As a mom of four kids, six and under, I've been deep in the potty training trenches, but luckily I have learned a thing or two. You know, a turd on your kitchen floor will really snap you into reality. We did have the absolute joy of having Wyatt lead the pack so that everybody else could follow suit and learn from what she was doing and want to be like their big sister. That was very helpful. I've also learned my secret weapon is Pull-Ups Training Pants. I've been using Pull-Ups the entire potty training experience. I love that they're there to make sure that this isn't a messier process than it needs to be. And now my secret weapon has its own secret weapon. Pull-Ups just introduced the new Learning Layer, and I'm all about this. It's designed to help kids learn the difference between feeling wet and dry.
26:48 Kylie Kelce? I'm so looking forward to using this with Finn because I think it's going to make it even easier. Plus, it's progress without the stress of the mess. It gives my tiny human big kid confidence while I get the peace of mind of up to 100% leak-free protection. So hopefully we'll avoid any more problems on the kitchen floor. You can buy the new Pull-Ups with Learning Layer now, designed to help kids learn wet from dry. Pick up Pull-Ups. With the new learning layer now. The real ones know I love my Oura ring and wear it every single day because being a type C mom and person, I need help and that helps keep up with my biometrics. So I don't have to keep track of it myself. I love that the ring tracks my sleep. I like knowing when I got up and how
27:32 Kylie Kelce? many times because sometimes I do it in autopilot. Yeah, that's right. A kid calls my name, I pop up and then I don't know how long until I get back to my own bed. Oura will tell me. I also absolutely love that it tells me the days where I need to recover or considering sitting down and taking a break because I sometimes don't know how to do that. She'll tell me. Oura Ring 5 is the world's smallest smart ring, 40% smaller than the previous generation and more powerful than ever. Ultra thin and subtle, it's designed to become a seamless extension of your personal style and your most capable health tool yet. Plus, it has up to one week of battery life. Charge once a week and never miss a night of data. The thought of charging something only once a week? Sounds like it's type C certified. And it's designed with aerospace grade titanium
28:17 Kylie Kelce? construction, meaning it's built to last through everything you do. Learn more about the world's smallest smart ring and discover how Oura can help you better understand your health at Ouraring.com. He's the hilarious comedian you know from all of his stand-up specials, his hit movies like Ride Along Jumanji, Think Like a Man, and a big one in our house, The Secret Life of Pets. He just released his new Audible original, Kids Make Me Angry. And most importantly, he's a Philadelphia sports fan, Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart, welcome to Not Gonna Lie.
28:46 Speaker 01 Oh.
28:46 Kylie Kelce? And go Birds.
28:47 Speaker 01 Yes, go Birds. Always go Birds. Uh, thank you. Thank you for having me. I can't wait to give you this batch of, uh, just authenticity and transparency, which is really what I'm good at. So, uh, you're in for a treat.
29:01 Kylie Kelce? And I know that you recently just got roasted on a very big stage, so I don't want to pile on, but I'm gonna. Um, I'm gonna bring us back to November 21st, 2021.
29:11 Speaker 01 2020.
29:12 Kylie Kelce? I'm gonna set the stage here. It's Lincoln Financial Field, a place you know very well.
29:18 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
29:20 Kylie Kelce? And you were sporting a Celine jacket.
29:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
29:25 Kylie Kelce? I'm going somewhere, I promise.
29:26 Speaker 01 Okay.
29:29 Kylie Kelce? It was, what I have now discovered was navy blue. With gold lettering.
29:37 Kylie Kelce? With white piping. There's a point here. Do you know what team we were playing this day?
29:42 Speaker 01 Uh, let me see, I'm gonna say, was it the, that wasn't the 49ers, that was the,
29:51 Speaker 01 was it the, wasn't the Saints?
29:54 Kylie Kelce? It was the Saints, Kevin.
29:56 Speaker 01 Yeah, the Saints, okay.
29:57 Kylie Kelce? Perfect. So I just wanna know,
30:02 Kylie Kelce? when you were getting dressed this day?
30:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:07 Kylie Kelce? Did, was there not a moment that crossed your mind where you thought to yourself, hmm,
30:12 Kylie Kelce? this is close to Saints colors? Maybe, maybe it's-
30:18 Speaker 01 Saints colors are black and gold.
30:22 Kylie Kelce? I'm gonna tell you, from where I was sitting, I thought your jacket was not navy.
30:26 Speaker 01 By the way, which is the problem with the, with our world today. Okay, this is the problem with our world today. So much assumption without factual proof. Okay, and with a little, with a little factual proof, you would've saw that I had on a softer version of a navy jacket, with a palette, a palette of cream, not gold, cream. And my sneakers, my sneakers-
30:52 Kylie Kelce? Oh no.
30:53 Speaker 01 Were navy, with a cream trim as well.
30:57 Kylie Kelce? Mm-hmm.
30:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:58 Kylie Kelce? Okay.
30:59 Speaker 01 Fashion first.
31:00 Kylie Kelce? Almost worse. Have you worn a cowboy shirt, Kevin?
31:03 Speaker 01 Have I ever worn a cowboy shirt? I think when I was a kid at Christmas, I got a Cowboys t-shirt. There's a picture of me in a Cowboys t-shirt, uh, with my mother, but it was a Christmas gift, and I didn't wanna hurt my aunt's feelings.
31:17 Kylie Kelce? Okay, that's fair.
31:18 Speaker 01 She didn't know anything about football. That's the only reason why that's even there. You see that? I'm being honest. And you probably thought you had me stumped.
31:24 Kylie Kelce? No, no, I didn't. I could tell that you were very young, uh, so I was gonna let that one, I was gonna, I was gonna accept any excuse.
31:33 Speaker 01 You gotta let it slide.
31:34 Kylie Kelce? Yeah, I will. Especially if it's a gift. You're right, a gift.
31:38 Speaker 01 You can't, you can't-
31:39 Kylie Kelce? You have to put it on, you have to go with it.
31:41 Speaker 01 You cannot judge me from wearing something that came from someone else's kind gesture.
31:47 Kylie Kelce? Okay.
31:48 Speaker 01 That shows that in return, I'm meeting said gesture with kindness.
31:52 Kylie Kelce? Sure.
31:52 Speaker 01 By, by giving you a visual, a visual sighting of me wearing the thing that you thought was very nice. That's what I'm doing here.
32:00 Kylie Kelce? Okay, that's fair. Here's what I will say. The other times that I've seen you at games, you have been fully decked out. I respect it.
32:08 Speaker 01 Eagles and like good, good Eagle shit.
32:11 Kylie Kelce? Some vintage, I saw some vintage jackets.
32:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, not like just, I'm not off the rack with my Eagle stuff. I'm, I'm giving you some strong, some strong Eagles apparel that you may not even see. You may not even know.
32:24 Kylie Kelce? Where are you going, John Supply? Who are you going to?
32:26 Speaker 01 I'm not, I'm not giving up my secrets. Let's just say that when it's time to,
32:29 Kylie Kelce? Who's the plug? Tell me.
32:30 Speaker 01 Really step out. When it's time to step out, I make some heavy calls.
32:34 Kylie Kelce? Okay, I just, I, I'm not kidding. When I saw the Celine jacket, I had a moment of like, huh, that's interesting. I had a, I'm not kidding. I had a moment of, I've held on to this for five years now. I've literally thought to myself, there's no way he knew who we were playing.
32:55 Speaker 01 Huh, and just made you go huh. I'm like, that's real, that's real frustration.
33:01 Kylie Kelce? Huh.
33:02 Speaker 01 Yeah.
33:03 Kylie Kelce? Hmm, look at that. Would you look at that? Yeah. So I just, I had to get that off my chest.
33:08 Speaker 01 I'm glad you did. By the way, that's what this is about.
33:10 Kylie Kelce? It is.
33:11 Speaker 01 I, I wouldn't wanted you to do anything else.
33:14 Kylie Kelce? Mm-mm.
33:14 Speaker 01 Right? We're here to be honest with one another. So if it's something you feel or, or, or feeling that you think you have and that you're holding on to, there's no time to tell me. Get it all off your chest.
33:23 Kylie Kelce? Yeah.
33:23 Speaker 01 I get it, but I'm glad that we cleared that up.
33:25 Kylie Kelce? It feels, I feel better now. As if you have any responsibility to answer to me, but I feel better now. Thank you for that.
33:32 Speaker 01 I'm, I'm happy. I appreciate it. I'm happy that you feel better. I think this is, this sets the record for a new opportunity.
33:39 Kylie Kelce? It does.
33:40 Speaker 01 For evolvement between you and I, that when we see each other next, you're not coming in with this.
33:45 Kylie Kelce? Mm-mm, hostility.
33:46 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt like this was.
33:47 Kylie Kelce? It was a little, it was a little.
33:49 Speaker 01 Yeah.
33:50 Kylie Kelce? It's a, it's a feeling. Me, okay, I can't help myself.
33:52 Speaker 01 Waking his hand. Why? Well, he had on, you know what the fuck he wore to the Saints Eagles game?
33:57 Kylie Kelce? He wore a Celine.
33:58 Speaker 01 He wore a Celine New Orleans Saints jacket.
34:01 Kylie Kelce? Yes.
34:02 Speaker 01 Are you sure they make those? I don't know, but, but, but I'm assuming that it was a gesture on their behalf. And I don't fuck with them since. I'm just over here innocent.
34:12 Kylie Kelce? That literally sums it up. And you're just over there minding your business.
34:15 Speaker 01 And innocent.
34:15 Kylie Kelce? Stylish.
34:16 Speaker 01 Thinking I have a nice stylish jacket.
34:18 Kylie Kelce? Wearing a completely different palette. God, who the fuck am I, right, to judge you wearing a completely different palette?
34:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
34:27 Kylie Kelce? Okay, I'm so glad we got to the bottom of this.
34:29 Speaker 01 This is good.
34:30 Kylie Kelce? Now that I know that you did not do that really out of malice, uh, we can speak about the Eagles truly and wholeheartedly. Philly fans know we can be a little misunderstood.
34:43 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
34:43 Kylie Kelce? What do you think the best part about us is?
34:46 Speaker 01 The best part is our reputation. Um, the reputation of Philadelphia Eagles fans is the best part because, you know, whether, whether we are or we aren't, the fact that the idea is out there of how crazy Philadelphia Eagles fans are. Like, you know, there's a, there's a crazy stigma attached to us that makes other fans, when they step into our stadium, aware and a little, you know, just a little timid. Hey, don't wear, be careful wearing other jerseys around Eagles fans. Or, hey, when you go, like, what we're not gonna do, we're not gonna over celebrate because these fans get a little,
35:27 Speaker 01 they get rowdy, right? And you just don't wanna put ourselves in a bad situation. You know, they got jail cell. They got a jail cell in the state, which is the only time. Now, granted, that's not there anymore. No, but it used to be.
35:39 Kylie Kelce? And how would you, do, do you know about that? If I recall, uh,
35:43 Speaker 01 Are you asking if I've, if I've been locked up?
35:45 Kylie Kelce? The other podcast, uh, I do believe you mentioned spending a little, a little time in the, in the vet jail cell.
35:53 Speaker 01 And as a person that has been in that jail cell, I'll tell you.
35:59 Speaker 01 I mean, look, I've never, I never went down there and had to stay, but there have been moments where my behavior, um.
36:09 Kylie Kelce? Warranted a timeout?
36:10 Speaker 01 Yeah, like, just like, hey, we want you to come down here and talk to us. And then there was like several threats after. But I mean, look, that's in my younger years. That's when I was young and crazy, right? Ever since, you know, because we're being honest, ever since I became this well manicured version of myself, uh, I haven't been down there. I don't go down there no more.
36:30 Kylie Kelce? No?
36:31 Speaker 01 No.
36:32 Kylie Kelce? I will say this.
36:35 Speaker 01 They almost threw me in jail.
36:36 Kylie Kelce? I think.
36:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
36:38 Kylie Kelce? That as a Philadelphia Eagles fan, it's kind of a rite of passage.
36:44 Speaker 01 Yes, it's pretty cool.
36:45 Kylie Kelce? I feel like that's a badge of honor that you should wear.
36:48 Speaker 01 Yeah, as long as they don't, as long as they don't put your face on the, on the wall, like in your band, it's cool.
36:56 Kylie Kelce? Right?
36:57 Speaker 01 Like, if you gotta go down there to have a conversation, they gotta explain some things to you, like, like they had to do with me a couple of times, that's fine. A good talking to.
37:06 Kylie Kelce? A couple of times.
37:07 Speaker 01 There's nothing wrong with a good, there's nothing wrong with a, with a good talking to.
37:10 Kylie Kelce? No.
37:11 Speaker 01 Hey, hey, man, what are you doing up there? Now, come on.
37:15 Kylie Kelce? Were you in the 700 level?
37:16 Speaker 01 I mean, we're talking about a different time in my life, right? Talking about a different time, all right, where seats were seats. You understand what I'm saying? And it wasn't really me, it was the company that I was with. I think that clears up a lot.
37:29 Kylie Kelce? Okay, guilt by association.
37:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not, I'm, I'm never the guy doing the stuff, you know? I'm with the guy, I'm with, or guys.
37:39 Kylie Kelce? Now, one of my favorite sights to see in the entire world is a little kid in an Eagles jersey who does something like, I don't know, let's say flip off an opposing fan.
37:49 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm.
37:50 Kylie Kelce? Would you agree that that's raising your children right?
37:54 Speaker 01 I think is the only way to raise your child.
37:55 Kylie Kelce? Yep.
37:56 Speaker 01 If you're not teaching your child proper fanfare, right? Or, or proper, proper behavior while supporting um his or her team, then you're not doing your job as a leader. My son is a diehard Eagles fan because he was taught that. He was taught that early on. There's nothing else that exists outside of that green. You know, the chant from the, from the chant to the song uh to aggression. My son has it all and, and, and he loves it, right? He loves it. My son barks in people's face when Eagles games are on. He understands all the, all the terms. Uh move the change first down.
38:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. You know what that is? Pick six. We need a ball, dad. Fumble, loose ball, dad. Yeah, we, we get active in this household. You get very active.
38:52 Kylie Kelce? It's funny. I grew up in a house with a man who I still remember if someone fumbled, it was a, an all out fumble. And then my dad would like fall over and tackle me. It was like one of the great joys of playing, of watching Eagles football.
39:07 Speaker 01 That's right. That's right. Lose ball. Where's the ball? Ball.
39:11 Kylie Kelce? Exactly.
39:12 Speaker 01 Ball.
39:13 Kylie Kelce? Who's on it? Who's on it?
39:15 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's us. That's us. Yeah.
39:18 Kylie Kelce? Everyone starts pointing.
39:19 Speaker 01 Pointing the other way. Yes, you need it. It's necessary. And I think that's a, that's a great, it's a great household. It's great energy in a household and it's necessary, right? It should be frowned upon. It should be supported.
39:31 Kylie Kelce? Do your kids also know the expression fuck the Cowboys?
39:35 Speaker 01 My kids know the expression fuck the Cowboys for life. Yeah, yeah, they're good kids. Good kids.
39:43 Kylie Kelce? Great kids, raised right.
39:46 Speaker 01 Seriously, like I'm talking ground up.
39:48 Kylie Kelce? Yeah.
39:49 Speaker 01 Really.
39:50 Kylie Kelce? One of our listeners recently asked me how I would feel if one of my daughters, we have four. One of my daughters ended up dating a Dallas fan. And I said that I actually couldn't fathom that, that I think that I've raised them right.
40:04 Speaker 01 That's tough.
40:05 Kylie Kelce? And that when they start dating, that they would know better than to date a Dallas fan.
40:11 Speaker 01 That's tough. I mean, I think, I think, by the way, whoever said that, like whoever even raised a question should be put in jail. Yeah, that's a, that's this, that's, that's the real problem.
40:22 Kylie Kelce? Yep.
40:22 Speaker 01 That level of thinking, because that, that thinking shouldn't exist. I mean, I'll be honest with you, I think, uh, I think you gotta disown your kids. Right? I think you gotta.
40:34 Kylie Kelce? You have no other choice.
40:35 Speaker 01 No, no, no, no, no, no. Like it's, it's, love doesn't live here anymore. You know, you gotta, you gotta go.
40:42 Kylie Kelce? There's a lot of things that I will love my kids through marrying a Dallas Cowboys fan.
40:49 Speaker 01 That's.
40:50 Kylie Kelce? Swear to all the line.
40:51 Speaker 01 No, I don't like it. No, I think.
40:53 Kylie Kelce? Can't have it.
40:54 Speaker 01 No, no.
40:56 Kylie Kelce? Yeah. Uh, now, since we're talking a little bit about our kids, I'm very excited to hear more about your new Audible original.
41:03 Speaker 01 Oh, yes.
41:04 Kylie Kelce? Kids Make Me Angry. It's out now, so everyone can go and listen. First of all, love the title.
41:10 Speaker 01 Yeah, Kids Make Me Angry.
41:12 Kylie Kelce? That pretty much sums up parenthood.
41:14 Speaker 01 Well, we, uh, we're here to be honest.
41:16 Kylie Kelce? We are.
41:17 Speaker 01 Like, I'm not, I mean, why lie? Uh, kids do make me angry.
41:21 Kylie Kelce? Yep.
41:21 Speaker 01 And I think, I think voicing the frustration and mirroring that with humor while at the same time, being very transparent about your, like, world of parenting and, and your growth within it is special. And I mean, look, there's a, there's a stigma on black fathers and, you know, the lack thereof. And I think it's important to highlight the good fathers, right? So that, that stigma eventually gets erased and you motivate other good fathers to be better fathers and those that may not. Not be will wanna be, right? Because they'll hear more people voicing uh, the, the amazing side of parenting and, and all things good attached to it.
42:05 Speaker 01 And to do that, you also have to be honest. And that's where the, the kids make me angry. That's where that component comes in. Because you're, you're not gonna go through parenting and be happy the entire way. You will get to your tipping point. You will get frustrated. You will get overwhelmed. Um, but what you do in those things present themselves, well, that's what makes the good parents, good parents. How do you adjust? How do you maintain a, a level of communication, understanding, friendship, good rapport? Uh, while at the same time, um, energizing the love. So the love grows between you and your kids. And, and still balancing the world of respect. So the respect is never compromised. There's so much that goes into parenting, so, so much.
42:50 Speaker 01 And, you know, the information is key. You have people out there that are looking for it, that don't know where to find it. Um, books like this, they service that. And that's what I'm hoping I do. I'm hoping people listen to it, love it, but more importantly, relate to it, laugh at it. Um, and also apply it. That's what I'm looking for from this book. Wow, by the way, how good was that?
43:14 Kylie Kelce? That was outstanding.
43:15 Speaker 01 I mean, like, you can say a lot of things, but saying it like that, that's-
43:21 Kylie Kelce? You just nailed that.
43:22 Speaker 01 Yeah, like, I get it. I get it.
43:24 Kylie Kelce? How do you not go listen now?
43:26 Speaker 01 After that, after that, and I'm just being honest.
43:32 Speaker 01 I'm just being honest.
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44:17 Kylie Kelce? Being a person is tough enough these days, let alone being a parent. That's why I use DoorDash because when life gets crazy, DoorDash helps bring some order to it. Like this past week when I needed to prove a point. So I Door dashed ice cream for everyone but two of my children. I was trying to prove a point that there are consequences. And so when multiple people wanted ice cream, I ordered it for the ones who had their listening ears on. So DoorDash came in clutch with that one. Real life needs real relief. That's why DoorDash is there for whatever you need, whenever you need it. Life with kids is wildly unpredictable. No matter how much parents try to plan, there's always going to be chaos. Being able to offload a few to do's and give a little more time to focus on yourself
45:03 Kylie Kelce? and your family is huge. We all know life gets crazy. DoorDash just helps bring a little order to it. Order now. Now you have four kids, so you're speaking from experience here. How old are your four kids?
45:15 Speaker 01 Twenty one, eighteen, eight and five.
45:21 Kylie Kelce? So you have a good range of ages.
45:23 Speaker 01 Yeah.
45:24 Kylie Kelce? Do you think that helps you appreciate the ages that they are currently in?
45:31 Speaker 01 Honestly, it's, it's crazy because you don't realize how much you miss certain ages until they present themselves again. So being that my oldest two are grown now, I love the fact that I get to hang out with my kids. I love the fact that we get to like do real things together. You know, me and my daughter can drink wine together and chill out and have great conversations. It's a vibe. It's dope. Me and my son drive old school cars and go have. Lunch and chill like it's dope. But then you you see your younger kids and it's like, wow, man, I miss when my older two were this age. Oh, my God, it's so much fun. They were fun. But looking at my youngest, it's like, oh, my daughter's the boss.
46:16 Speaker 01 She's she's at that age where she's discovering not just like new words, but definitions with the words and personality and and and there's a nice flair. And and like, when you start to see your little people become people, there's nothing more rewarding, nothing more rewarding than that. But I do think that my favorite ages, of course, are the younger ages. And you realize that they grow up so fast, so fast, you blink an eye and they're they're eighteen and twenty one. And you're like, what the fuck happened? When when did it happen?
46:50 Kylie Kelce? Mm hmm. Now, you talk about some of the different phases of parenting in Kids Make Me Angry. I very much related to what you call the head thumping phase.
47:00 Speaker 01 Yes, yes.
47:02 Kylie Kelce? Can you explain that a little bit?
47:03 Speaker 01 The head thumping phase is really important. It's like the phase where you where you pretty much let your child bump their goddamn head, right? Like, this is this is a child. It's it's it's everybody wants to protect. Everybody wants to prevent. Stop, no, don't do that. Please, don't do. Oh, my God, they're getting next to it. Go get him, go get him. Oh, no, no, no, no. She's about to fall. Get her, get her, get her. Don't let her get close. I don't believe in that. Let that baby fall.
47:29 Kylie Kelce? A little fuck around and find out parenting.
47:31 Speaker 01 Right, that's right. Let that baby touch that hot stove. You know what's gonna happen next time she get next to the stove? She's gonna freeze up because she don't want to get burnt again, okay? Sometimes a lesson comes with a hard piece of pain. All right, I embrace it.
47:47 Kylie Kelce? Mm hmm.
47:47 Speaker 01 The head thumping stage. Go ahead. You go right here. You want to keep on goddamn standing up on that table? I hope you learn the how. Pow! I told you. What I tell you?
47:57 Kylie Kelce? Uh, this, this has happened many times in our house. So much so that I've gotten to a point where sometimes I look at my older two who are six and five. And I say, that's a choice you're gonna make? Okay, and that's, that's, that's it. And then they make the choice. I have six, five, three and one.
48:18 Speaker 01 Oh, no.
48:19 Kylie Kelce? Yes, all girls.
48:21 Speaker 01 No breaks. Oh, my God.
48:23 Kylie Kelce? None.
48:23 Speaker 01 You didn't take it. You're right in the wind. You're in the window of pop the baby out. Uh, okay, back to like having a good time. Summer's presenting herself. Oh, my God, here we go again.
48:37 Kylie Kelce? Literally.
48:38 Speaker 01 Oh, my God, we're back in it. Okay, all right, you know what? Let's go ahead. All right, I'm gonna have the baby. You know what? Summer's coming around. I just want a break. I just want to chill out, get back to my, oh, God.
48:50 Kylie Kelce? Yep.
48:50 Speaker 01 I'm back in it.
48:51 Kylie Kelce? And then do it one more time.
48:53 Speaker 01 Do it one more time. Oh, my goodness. That's it. That's literally, that's, that's my stand up comedy schedule. That's how I have stand.
49:04 Kylie Kelce? And to break, nah, fuck it, let's get pregnant.
49:08 Speaker 01 Fucking do a tour, film a special, I'm gonna chill out. Fuck it, I need to figure out material. Go do material, get another tour, film a special. That's a, that's a crazy time period.
49:18 Kylie Kelce? Yep.
49:19 Speaker 01 I mean, are they, are they all extremely close? Or are they in pairs?
49:24 Kylie Kelce? Uh, they're in pairs, but the pairs switch up.
49:28 Speaker 01 Okay.
49:28 Kylie Kelce? The pairs switch up. Uh, it switches up every couple of months, really. Uh, and our youngest right now is just, she wants to be involved.
49:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
49:37 Kylie Kelce? Um, but like this morning alone, she was trying to be involved with the big girls. And homegirl took one step back and went down two steps, just like ba-boom, ba-boom. Luckily, she went ass first, not head first. And our older sis, let me tell you, they're built different.
49:52 Speaker 01 Younger kids just, younger kids are the worst.
49:59 Speaker 01 Because they. Just wanna do shit that they can't do.
50:02 Kylie Kelce? And they are, well, they're also pissed when you tell them they can't.
50:07 Speaker 01 Yeah.
50:08 Kylie Kelce? Furious.
50:09 Speaker 01 Yeah.
50:10 Kylie Kelce? She just figured out she can scream at people.
50:12 Speaker 01 What do you mean you wanna pump the gas? You can't pump gas. Get in the car. Put the goddamn nozzle down.
50:19 Kylie Kelce? Mm hmm.
50:19 Speaker 01 Don't drink that.
50:21 Kylie Kelce? Oh, yeah.
50:21 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
50:22 Kylie Kelce? Uh, she's, yeah, she's, she's gonna be the toughest and she's also the tallest. So I'm pretty sure that her body has said the only way to survive this shit is to get bigger.
50:34 Speaker 01 Oh, God.
50:36 Kylie Kelce? It got so bad in our house, our three year old made a choice. I was like, you're making that choice? And she was like, yep, I am. And then she ate shit and, uh, right before I, right before she ate shit, she gave me a little attitude. And so our five year old looked right at her and goes, that's karma. And I was like, oh.
50:55 Speaker 01 Oh, stop.
50:55 Kylie Kelce? Have I said that too much?
50:57 Speaker 01 Do you? They're mine.
50:58 Kylie Kelce? Have I been like, hey, that's the universe punishing you for being a jerk to your mother?
51:03 Speaker 01 Uh, you know what? Wait till, wait till they start to throw out your, your accidental cuss word because they don't know it's a cuss word.
51:11 Kylie Kelce? Hmm.
51:11 Speaker 01 You know, my, my youngest son, uh, on the tennis court, we was playing and he was like, he hit a shot. And I said, that's out, out of bounds. He goes, bullshit.
51:23 Kylie Kelce? Really?
51:25 Speaker 01 Hey, man.
51:25 Kylie Kelce? But, but you gotta respect it, but it was correct. It was used correctly.
51:30 Speaker 01 Well, we celebrated it, but then I had to explain to him why he couldn't say it.
51:33 Kylie Kelce? Sure.
51:33 Speaker 01 You can't say that. Like, by the way, good job, but.
51:37 Kylie Kelce? You nailed that.
51:37 Speaker 01 Right, but.
51:38 Kylie Kelce? But also, don't fucking say that again.
51:41 Speaker 01 Don't you say that. Okay, but if you were to say it.
51:44 Kylie Kelce? Just like that.
51:45 Speaker 01 That's how you say it. My oldest daughter, she's, she's like now, because she's 21, she tries to curse around me like more comfortably. And I check her differently because I'm like, I'm still dad.
51:56 Kylie Kelce? Oh, I still won't say the F word in front of my father. I'm 34 years old.
52:00 Speaker 01 Don't, I don't, I don't play, but she tries it. She tries it. My oldest daughter is like, god damn dad. Shit, I don't wanna drive there. You to, hey. Stop trying to, you're trying to softly pitch out your cuss words to see how far I'mma let you go. Stop doing that.
52:17 Kylie Kelce? They're testers. She's floating them.
52:19 Speaker 01 Yes.
52:20 Kylie Kelce? It's not, it's not landing.
52:22 Speaker 01 1,000%.
52:23 Kylie Kelce? I'm telling you, I still apologize to my dad if I drop an F word in front of him. I'll say the F word to my mom all day and then as soon as my dad goes, whoa, I go, okay, you're eavesdropping. That's rude. He's in the same room. Poor dad. Oh, God, poor dad. Now of your four kids, have your oldest seen any of your comedy specials?
52:44 Speaker 01 Yes, yes. My oldest too.
52:47 Kylie Kelce? Do they get any kind of veto power when it comes to telling stories?
52:52 Speaker 01 Now, I mean, like, you know, my, my oldest daughter has input. Like my oldest daughter was like, Dad, you can't talk about me anymore in, in any of your comedy. Like you don't, you cannot do it anymore. Like I don't want you talking about it. Like she checked me. So I have to, I had to like respect that and listen to that. But in earlier, in my earlier times, like when I was heavy in dad mode, all I, all I knew was you guys. Like there was nothing else for me to talk about. Like you were my day to day. So that's why dad was heavy with the kid jokes or the kid conversation because that's all I had
53:32 Speaker 01 at that time. So as a comedian, you only can like make jokes about your daily experiences or your daily experiences. Yeah. So at that point it was all kids all the time. But now, now that I'm like kind of back to the raw version of myself, they don't, they don't have a lot of input. It's more like, whoa, dad's, dad's cussing a lot.
54:01 Kylie Kelce? Well, he's doing what we're not allowed to.
54:03 Speaker 01 Yeah, dad's letting them fly a lot these days. It's like that. That's what it is now.
54:09 Kylie Kelce? Now, I mentioned it earlier, but you just did the roast. And as someone who has relatively thick skin, I'm still surprised when anyone agrees to do that.
54:19 Kylie Kelce? Have you always been good at essentially not giving a fuck what people say?
54:23 Speaker 01 Yes. Yes.
54:25 Kylie Kelce? Is that the Philly side of you?
54:27 Speaker 01 Absolutely. What do you mean?
54:30 Kylie Kelce? Yeah.
54:32 Speaker 01 The thickest skin comes in a marriage. You know how much shit you gotta ignore that your wife says on the day to day? Yeah, I got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it.
54:41 Kylie Kelce? That's why we're here.
54:42 Speaker 01 Yes, got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Absolutely. Absolutely.
54:47 Kylie Kelce? Just eat it. Just eat it.
54:50 Speaker 01 I practice on the daily. I'll say coming up in Philadelphia, man, I mean, I was raised. I was raised with hard hitting humor. Like, that's all me and my friends knew. And it wasn't. It wasn't soft. It was hard. Like, we went in, we went in. We went in about everything. Like, nothing was off limits. Nobody was safe. So that was my environment of funny. So a roast, a roast has nothing, or is nothing compared to that. Like, it's not even close.
55:21 Kylie Kelce? So your friends from growing up could still get you way better than that?
55:25 Speaker 01 What?
55:27 Kylie Kelce? They didn't even graze the surface.
55:29 Speaker 01 If I put you on a street corner, talking to me and my friends when I was in high school, oh my God.
55:37 Kylie Kelce? Are you still there? Anybody?
55:44 Kylie Kelce? Now, this, you might be sad that you signed back in for this, that we lost you there for a minute. You came back for this. Because I do have to bring up, I always say that I'm a bug person.
55:56 Kylie Kelce? This is random that I need to ask you about it, but I do have a vivid memory of watching on a late show when they brought in a snake.
56:03 Speaker 01 I don't do, I don't do, I don't do well with animals, insects, but I don't do well with none of it.
56:10 Kylie Kelce? Do you have pets?
56:12 Speaker 01 Yeah, my dogs.
56:14 Kylie Kelce? That's it?
56:15 Speaker 01 My dogs. Yeah.
56:19 Kylie Kelce? Okay.
56:21 Speaker 01 I don't fuck with other people's animals, pets, whatever, because you don't speak animal. So like, I don't, I don't know the temperament, I don't know the mood, but I do know that if they decide to have a bad day, you can easily be the product of that bad day. So I like to stay away. I don't, if I'm gonna go, like, let me, let it happen the way that God intended it. I'm not gonna help it.
56:50 Kylie Kelce? No.
56:50 Speaker 01 Like, you're not gonna hear that an eagle got me, or Kev got choked out by a ball constrictor, or
56:58 Kylie Kelce? Right.
56:58 Speaker 01 rattlesnake got him. Like, I'm never, never gonna be in an environment where that stuff can happen.
57:04 Kylie Kelce? I, I will say, I'm, I'm unsure which late night host it was, but I do remember, it is the most serious I've ever seen you.
57:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, I don't, I don't play that.
57:12 Kylie Kelce? Because you looked right at him and you said, I'm not kidding.
57:16 Speaker 01 Yeah, I'm not playing.
57:17 Kylie Kelce? Nope. I'm serious and I'm, I'm out. And I'm pretty sure you left.
57:22 Speaker 01 I was at a golf course the other day, two foxes ran across the golf, I've never seen a fox in person. I left the course. This is not safe here.
57:34 Kylie Kelce? What time of day was that?
57:36 Speaker 01 It was like nine AM. Two foxes came shooting across the fairway, and I said, they're probably running from something.
57:47 Kylie Kelce? Me too.
57:48 Speaker 01 I said, so, if you don't think I'm gonna take that as a sign, and I'm gonna get the fuck out of here, I'm out.
57:55 Kylie Kelce? They said, they said, run. And who am I to not listen?
58:00 Speaker 01 It's clearly a mountain lion back there. I'm out here. I got the golf cart. I left. My friends thought I was playing. I left. I'm saying I don't do animals.
58:09 Kylie Kelce? The thought of, the thought of what could Fox be running from?
58:13 Speaker 01 Yes.
58:13 Kylie Kelce? The only logical explanation, mountain lion.
58:16 Speaker 01 It's a mountain lion. It's gotta be.
58:21 Kylie Kelce? Where was this?
58:22 Speaker 01 I was in, I was at Sherwood. It's a country club in LA. Two foxes shot across the goddamn fairway. Oh, a mountain lion's coming. Guys, put the, put the clubs in the car.
58:35 Kylie Kelce? We actually have to leave now.
58:36 Speaker 01 Yeah, I'm gonna go. You guys can stay if you want. And I guess I'll write letters to your families if I don't hear from you guys in a couple hours. Because clearly a mountain lion's something.
58:46 Kylie Kelce? You're about to get mauled.
58:47 Speaker 01 Yeah, think about it. When have you seen foxes just randomly in a pair? Not chasing each other, but just running?
58:56 Kylie Kelce? That is weird. And what I will give you is, that's still a little early in the morning. So there is a chance that it was okay. But the fact that it was in broad daylight is the part where I would draw the line.
59:10 Speaker 01 No, no, no.
59:11 Kylie Kelce? Because I'm also not going to get bit by a rabid fox.
59:15 Speaker 01 I'm out of here.
59:16 Kylie Kelce? Yeah. No, I actually, I condone that decision. Not that you need my approval. But I think that that was, I don't know that the mountain lion was logical, but I do see how you got there.
59:27 Speaker 01 Well, whatever it was.
59:29 Kylie Kelce? You didn't stick around to find out.
59:31 Speaker 01 If you scare a fox, it can scare me. Same mindset, in my opinion.
59:36 Kylie Kelce? That's so fair.
59:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
59:38 Kylie Kelce? Now, which do you hate more, bugs or snakes?
59:43 Speaker 01 Both, equally.
59:45 Kylie Kelce? You don't discriminate?
59:46 Speaker 01 No, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
59:49 Kylie Kelce? Okay.
59:50 Speaker 01 If it doesn't have a voice, if it doesn't have a voice where I can hear.
59:53 Kylie Kelce? If it can't tell me if we're cool.
59:55 Speaker 01 Yes, I'm out of there.
59:57 Kylie Kelce? Okay. Even other people's dogs?
1:00:00 Speaker 01 I'm out of there.
1:00:04 Speaker 01 I'm not playing. I'm not joking.
1:00:07 Kylie Kelce? So, so just for instance here, I have a very large dog. She's like 100 pounds. She's real friendly, though.
1:00:14 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:00:15 Kylie Kelce? That would be a no.
1:00:17 Speaker 01 Hey, Kev, we got a dog. You cool with dogs? Cool with my dogs?
1:00:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, you guys want to put your dog up? Ah, they're friendly, man. All right, well, maybe you guys can go back to being friends with the ones I leave. Or I don't have to come in. Either way, that's fine. Yeah.
1:00:33 Kylie Kelce? That's fair. Okay. I cannot thank you enough for coming on Not Gonna Lie today. You can check out Kevin's new Audible original, Kids Make Me Angry, right now. Go to audible.com and we'll also put the link in the description. Kevin, thank you so much. And as always, go birds.
1:00:48 Speaker 01 Thank you. Go birds. Kylie, very funny. You're very, very funny. Very, very funny. Good energy. I appreciate you for having me.
1:00:56 Kylie Kelce? No, thank you so much.
1:00:57 Speaker 01 All right. All right. Don't remember, if you see a fox running.
1:01:00 Kylie Kelce? I'm running too.
1:01:02 Speaker 01 There's a mountain lion behind you.
1:01:03 Kylie Kelce? I'm running too.
1:01:06 Kylie Kelce? I'll see you in the proper colors at the link.
1:01:09 Speaker 01 Or, or you can just like see the colors for what they are.
1:01:12 Kylie Kelce? Or a different palette.
1:01:14 Speaker 01 Or just get up close and maybe go, oh, that's not what I thought it was.
1:01:17 Kylie Kelce? That's not black. That's navy. Hmm. Still kind of fucked. Okay. Thank you. And that's it for this episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Kevin on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. I'll be back with a very special episode next week from one of my favorite places with my absolute favorite person. Remember to send in your questions for us. Follow us on social media at @NGOWithKylie for clips throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original brought to you by Seventh Generation. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in.
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