Pod Insights Call Her Daddy Podcast Rachel Bilson: From People Pleasing to Knowing Your Worth (FBF) About this episode Father Cooper sits down with Rachel Bilson. The pair reminisce on Rachel’s days starring in the hit show, The OC, and Rachel shares what it was like to date co-star Adam Brody. Let’s talk about sex. Alex and Rachel discuss bringing a toy into the bedroom for the first time and how to combat when sex begins to feel like a chore. Rachel addresses the infamous headline for the first time…that her breakup with actor Bill Hader was more difficult than childbirth. Reflecting on her dating history, Rachel details her journey from people pleasing to knowing her worth within a relationship. To hear more of Rachel check out her podcast Broad Ideas.
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2:13 Alex Cooper? What is up Daddy Gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.
2:22 Alex Cooper? Rachel Bilson, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
2:24 Speaker 01 Thank you so much for having me.
2:26 Alex Cooper? I am a big fan of early 2000s TV shows.
2:31 Speaker 01 Oh, boy.
2:31 Alex Cooper? And not to freak you out, but I am the biggest OC fan. Maybe not ever, but like kind of ever.
2:37 Speaker 01 Are you serious?
2:37 Alex Cooper? I, I still watch it to this day. You know those shows you go back and like re-watch a little?
2:42 Speaker 01 Yes, of course.
2:43 Alex Cooper? The OC always through and through to the core. Love it.
2:46 Speaker 01 That's so awesome.
2:47 Alex Cooper? So I'm happy to have you on today.
2:48 Speaker 01 Thank you.
2:49 Alex Cooper? Very fun.
2:50 Speaker 01 Thank you. I'm flattered.
2:51 Alex Cooper? For my problematic listeners, you know who you are. If you've never watched the OC, you have to watch it. To give them like a little background, it's basically these rich kids living in Orange County, California.
3:03 Speaker 01 Yeah.
3:03 Alex Cooper? Drugs, sex, relationships, family drama, all the things. And you're doing a re-watch podcast?
3:10 Speaker 01 Yes, yes.
3:11 Alex Cooper? Which is amazing.
3:12 Speaker 01 Oh, thanks.
3:13 Alex Cooper? What is it like going back to relive the OC phenomenon?
3:17 Speaker 01 Oh, my God. So it's so interesting. I was 21 when I did the show and it was my first real big job. Watching it back, honestly, the first few episodes, I had such an emotional reaction. I got like depressed. I was like, oh, my God, because it's like 20 years later, basically, right? And I'm like, so much life has happened. What did I do? Like, what did I do?
3:41 Alex Cooper? Like, when, and when you say, what did I do? Like, do you mean like in terms of like the show or just like?
3:45 Speaker 01 No, just life.
3:46 Alex Cooper? Just life?
3:46 Speaker 01 Yeah.
3:47 Alex Cooper? You're just like, whoa.
3:48 Speaker 01 It's just more like you're basically playing back the last 20 years-ish of your life and you're like, it's all just going through your mind as I'm watching this because I'm like looking at this like little like pudgy face, like 21-year-old with like a lot of bronzer on and like questionable clothing, which is coming back, which is also very confusing. But like, I'm watching it just going like, oh shit, you know? And my boyfriend at the time was on the show with me. And so it brings up all that about life behind the scenes.
4:14 Alex Cooper? When you're that young and you're on a show and you're dating someone on the show and you're like the it girl on the show, everyone's obsessed. Test with you, but then you're saying like, I'm looking back and like, that was still me as a young woman like, and I'm watching back. So there's like emotions for you and then
4:30 Speaker 01 Oh, for sure.
4:31 Alex Cooper? Yeah. And then everyone still wants to talk about it all the time to you, which how does that feel?
4:35 Speaker 01 Well, you know what? I will say, I wasn't like, Misha Barton was obviously like the it girl and she was 16 years old and I can't even imagine what that would have been like to be 16 with that kind of attention and every magazine cover. Like I still had a lot of anonymity in like my own life and my boyfriend and we were very domesticated and kind of like grandparents at the time. Like we were like old people. Like newspaper in the morning, same breakfast every morning. Like it was really.
5:00 Alex Cooper? We see you guys were like the couple on the show.
5:02 Speaker 01 You know what? I guess you're, I guess you're right. But Josh Schwartz, the creator would always take, you know, things from your own life and incorporate it into the, into the show, like Golden Girls, huge Golden Girls fan. He put it in the show. We sing the theme song. So there were so much, you had to be careful around Schwartz, like what you said or did.
5:20 Alex Cooper? Cause he's like, that's the next week's episode.
5:21 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
5:22 Alex Cooper? What is like the most common question you're asked about your time working on the OC?
5:29 Speaker 01 I mean, a lot of it was just like, what was it like, you know, getting that much attention that quickly? And working together and how was everyone on set? I know there's been like mixed things out there.
5:40 Alex Cooper? Yeah.
5:40 Speaker 01 We had a great time. We had a lot of fun in general, together, personalities, hanging out. But yeah, a lot of the things are like, how did it feel to have that much success that quickly?
5:50 Alex Cooper? It is kind of a unfathomable feeling at that age. Like I know what I was doing at 21. It was not that. Drinking in college, being a full degenerate, having sex and making bad decisions with my life.
6:02 Speaker 01 Oh yeah. Oh, I did that just earlier.
6:04 Alex Cooper? But it's still on a, on like kind of a pedestal of people watching you. And so I'm interested to know like when the OC became popular. How did it affect you, your family, your friends?
6:14 Speaker 01 Well, you know, like I said, because I was in a relationship, I was definitely on a different track and going through it together. So having that support really made the difference.
6:21 Alex Cooper? Okay. So to anyone that hasn't watched or the OC stans that are just like, just say the name Summer Roberts, your character. Was hot, popular, rich, she was the it girl. And then she starts basically getting into a relationship with Seth Cohen, who was played by Adam Brody.
6:38 Speaker 01 Yes.
6:38 Alex Cooper? And so you have an on-screen relationship and then you start an off-screen relationship.
6:43 Speaker 01 Yes.
6:43 Alex Cooper? When was the moment you knew you had feelings for him?
6:45 Speaker 01 Oh, my God, it's so funny. I feel like on-screen was kind of playing off-screen because in the beginning, there was a triangle between another character, Anna Stern, played by Samira Armstrong, and then myself and Seth. And I felt like it kind of played into real life a little bit. Like Samira and I were both like, wait a minute. I'm like, I like Adam. No, I like Adam. And like, it kind of was happening off-screen. And you know that that competitive side of you, like with a guy and you're like, no, no, no, like, hold on. Um, it was like, I don't know if that heightened it. I obviously thought Brody was super cool. I knew him before the show. A friend of ours had dated him, actually. I know. So we knew him a little bit and he was hilarious.
7:27 Alex Cooper? Right.
7:28 Speaker 01 And I'm a sucker for a sense of humor. Like,
7:31 Alex Cooper? Absolutely.
7:31 Speaker 01 I mean, that is my weakness.
7:33 Alex Cooper? So was there like a moment on set that immediately you were like, I'm gonna go for this?
7:37 Speaker 01 I remember standing in the hallway. Okay, I don't remember anything. And the fact that I remember this is kind of insane. I was standing in the hallway and I was dating someone else at the time and Brody like talked to me about the relationship and gave me advice on why I shouldn't be in it. And it was like this moment of like, oh, I want to be with you, you know? And it was like this, this pivotal moment. And there was like a Halloween party, I think it was a Halloween party. And he kissed me for the first time and that was it. Like, it was like, okay.
8:07 Alex Cooper? And that was off-camera? That was like that kiss, you're saying off-camera? I'm like, wait, was it Seth in summer?
8:11 Speaker 01 But the first time he kissed me on-screen, I think that was like the first time like, oh, is there something here?
8:16 Alex Cooper? Right.
8:16 Speaker 01 But that can be confusing. You know, if you're doing a show or a movie and that happens, sometimes you get confused. Like, oh, do I really like feel this way? Am I feeling something? Or is it just?
8:25 Alex Cooper? Is it true? I've heard from actors, like, you can tell a little bit if someone's more into you because there's like an appropriate way to kiss a co-star?
8:32 Speaker 01 There's no tongue in television.
8:34 Alex Cooper? Okay.
8:34 Speaker 01 Okay. If someone tongues you, you're gonna be like, oh, either like, oh, no, or like, oh, wait a minute.
8:40 Alex Cooper? Oh, yes.
8:41 Speaker 01 No, I'm just kidding.
8:41 Alex Cooper? Did you guys ever do tongue on-camera?
8:43 Speaker 01 No, no.
8:44 Alex Cooper? But then off-camera?
8:44 Speaker 01 No.
8:45 Alex Cooper? Okay, wait, so that's really fun. And then, do you have any advice for someone who is newly dating someone in their work environment?
8:53 Speaker 01 Oh, my God. Advice, you know?
8:57 Speaker 01 It sounds like I should probably be a pro with my track record. Um, I think that just be friends first because I think that'll help.
9:07 Alex Cooper? Yeah.
9:07 Speaker 01 Cause usually it ends sometimes.
9:11 Alex Cooper? I, you know what? I love you being realistic about it.
9:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
9:15 Alex Cooper? We like, we love the realistic side of it.
9:16 Speaker 01 Oh yeah, I'm very real, like to a fault. So.
9:19 Alex Cooper? So when you're on set, was there ever an instance where dating someone you're working with, like was there ever something that was like hard about that aspect?
9:27 Speaker 01 Um, one, we broke up, like that's the harder, I don't, you know, and then we both dated other people on the show while we were together in real life. So sometimes you can be a little jealous. I mean.
9:37 Alex Cooper? Were you dating people on the show for your characters?
9:40 Speaker 01 The characters, sorry.
9:40 Alex Cooper? I was like, wait, who did you date?
9:42 Speaker 01 Like he was like kissing Olivia Wilde and like, of course I'm going to be like, well, fuck, you know, but I also get it. Like, can I kiss her?
9:48 Alex Cooper? Was that when you guys broke up?
9:49 Speaker 01 No, we were together. We were together.
9:51 Alex Cooper? Okay.
9:52 Speaker 01 While that was happening.
9:53 Alex Cooper? That would be a hard one.
9:54 Speaker 01 That's a hard one, right?
9:55 Alex Cooper? Olivia Wilde walks in, her character is so.
9:57 Speaker 01 And so cool. And she's the coolest person in real life too. So you're like, well, I love her. And you're like, wait a minute, your boyfriend's kissing her and then it can be confusing. Yeah. It's just that kind of stuff, but that's normal.
10:07 Alex Cooper? So how long did you guys date for?
10:10 Speaker 01 I think like three years, three and a half years.
10:13 Alex Cooper? And was that three seasons?
10:14 Speaker 01 Yeah. We dated pretty much the whole show.
10:17 Alex Cooper? It was such a huge show that blew up.
10:19 Speaker 01 Right.
10:20 Alex Cooper? And everyone was obsessed with you guys, like the four people that were like the main kids on the show.
10:25 Speaker 01 Yeah.
10:25 Alex Cooper? And to have you being able to have a relationship with someone, to be your rock and your go-to person while like your life is kind of changing before your eyes.
10:33 Speaker 01 For sure.
10:34 Alex Cooper? That's a, I'm sure like a bond you guys will always have in like a cool way.
10:37 Speaker 01 Yeah. And even reconnecting with him, I spoke to him, he came on the OC podcast. Yeah. It was great. I love seeing him. Anytime I see him, nothing but fond, like loving feelings and great memories.
10:48 Alex Cooper? So fun.
10:49 Speaker 01 Yes.
10:49 Alex Cooper? Okay, your character, you were so lovable. I'm wondering, how was your personal, like, real-life Rachel Bilson high school experience compared to the OC?
11:00 Speaker 01 Oh, man. Um, school for me, I wasn't so much like an academic, I would say. I just, it just didn't interest me. It's not like I couldn't do it. If I sat down and really studied and focused, I could do it. But my interests were like all over the place. And growing up in LA, I think I grew up a little young, like at 15, my friends and I, and Olivia was here with me, like, we'd be getting into the clubs, like, you know, that's just what life is like.
11:25 Alex Cooper? That sounds like Summer Roberts.
11:27 Speaker 01 I mean, a little bit, a little bit.
11:29 Alex Cooper? I still remember exactly what I was wearing, where I was, the time of day, who I was with for the season three finale.
11:37 Speaker 01 Oh, geez. I just got the chills.
11:40 Alex Cooper? I've never, and I still have not recovered from it.
11:43 Speaker 01 I haven't, I don't, I mean.
11:45 Alex Cooper? Spoiler alert.
11:45 Speaker 01 You know who hasn't? Marissa.
11:48 Alex Cooper? To anyone that hasn't watched the show, pause and go watch it, please. Spoiler alert. The main character dies tragically.
11:55 Speaker 01 Tra- like, the most tragic.
11:57 Alex Cooper? Like, fuck you, Volchuk. Okay. But he was so hot. Oh, my God.
12:01 Speaker 01 He was so hot. Olivia dated him. Sorry.
12:04 Alex Cooper? You've dated him? Oh, my God. Absolutely, as you should. We have someone in the audience, and God bless you, because I had his, like, poster, this guy, Kam Gajande. Is that how you say his name?
12:14 Speaker 01 Jagande?
12:14 Alex Cooper? Gajande? Yeah, okay. Well, I was obsessed with him. Anyways, Marissa dies.
12:19 Speaker 01 Yep.
12:19 Alex Cooper? Misha Barton's character.
12:20 Speaker 01 Yep.
12:21 Alex Cooper? What was your reaction when you learned that Misha's character was getting killed off the show?
12:26 Speaker 01 It was very traumatic. Everyone felt it. It was, it was so somber on set, and you really, because you're a family, and it is like a family member is leaving or dying, and it was brutal. Um, I mean, still, I can picture it in my mind, and it's, it's just, it was traumatizing.
12:44 Alex Cooper? Literally.
12:45 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. And I don't remember, like, behind the scenes, really, like, the last time she was on set or anything like that, but it was definitely a dark time.
12:54 Alex Cooper? Did you talk to Misha about her decision to leave the show?
12:58 Speaker 01 I don't think I ever had a personal conversation, like, why are you leaving? I think it was a joint decision. I don't think it was like, her decision, like, I'm gonna leave, or Josh and Stephanie's decision to be like, we're, we're getting, you know, you're, you're being killed off because whatever. You know, I, I don't know what really happened behind the scenes as far as like, who made the actual decision. I think that Josh felt like a lot of her storylines had run through. I mean, what else could you put the girl through? She literally like overdoses, shoots someone, you know, I mean, every possible storyline was done with that character.
13:32 Alex Cooper? You're right. And it didn't seem fitting for her to like go, I think it was like she was gonna go work on her dad's boat or something. It was like, that's not, Marissa's not going to work on a boat. Like, absolutely not. Like, she's going to Fashion Week.
13:42 Speaker 01 Right.
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16:04 Alex Cooper? How did the cast dynamic change for season four?
16:08 Speaker 01 Towards the end, I started to work on something else at the same time simultaneously. So I was so distracted that I wasn't really in it all the time presently. So I wasn't feeling all the things.
16:19 Alex Cooper? And you had broken up with Adam at the time.
16:20 Speaker 01 Towards the end.
16:22 Alex Cooper? Okay. So I guess it kind of felt probably like time to move on, like by season four.
16:27 Speaker 01 Yeah, especially like working on another project and it was a film, feeling like, okay, like let's, this is ending. Like what's happening? What's next?
16:35 Alex Cooper? Okay, we're moving on.
16:36 Speaker 01 Okay.
16:38 Alex Cooper? We are both the daughters of therapists, but in your case, you were raised by a sex therapist.
16:46 Speaker 01 Yeah. So my mom's always like, I'm not a sex therapist. I'm more like a sex counselor and whatever. The woman will talk about sex to your blue in the face. Like as a daughter, like I know your mom's a therapist.
16:56 Alex Cooper? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:57 Speaker 01 Yeah, but just like really coming with it, no problem. I'm like, I remember going on the Wendy Williams show and I think I used cunnilingus and they like blurred it, like they had to bleep it out. I'm like, is that a bad word? Like, what did I say? You know, because my mom's always like cunnilingus and you know, like all the proper terms and.
17:14 Alex Cooper? Right. And you're like, that's what I grew up around.
17:15 Speaker 01 I'm like, isn't that what it's called? Oh, sorry. Eating, eating me out? Like what, you know? I'm like, was that, would that have been better, Wendy?
17:22 Alex Cooper? I totally get it. I, that's, I think fascinating where when you grow up, usually you're hiding everything from your parents. You're like, I don't even want them to know. And to be raised by a sex counselor or therapist. How do you think having your mom have that profession impact the way you handled relationships growing up?
17:42 Speaker 01 You know, it was always like a very open household, like nudity, like all of it, you know? So feeling like really comfortable in your skin, which was great. And talking about it all, like the night I lost my virginity, I was very young. Um, and my mom, the next day sitting me down and being like, let's talk about sex. I'm like, how did you fucking know? Like, how do you know these things? Like, you know, it was just like that all the time.
18:04 Alex Cooper? Rachel, you're glowing, sweetie.
18:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, she's like, honey, there was like a weird crunchy towel in the bathroom.
18:11 Alex Cooper? No, that's not real.
18:13 Speaker 01 Not real, condoms only. I was like very young. Okay.
18:16 Alex Cooper? Um, okay. So you, so did you then tell your mom in that conversation, you lost your virginity?
18:21 Speaker 01 Yeah, I was like, yeah, mom, I did it. She's like, how was it? I'm like, it was very quick and like, whatever.
18:26 Alex Cooper? Totally. Who is like, I had the best sex of my life. No, you don't enjoy it.
18:30 Speaker 01 No.
18:30 Alex Cooper? You don't even know what your vagina is supposed to feel like.
18:32 Speaker 01 No, you don't enjoy it. Like, I didn't really enjoy sex until I was like much older, you know?
18:37 Alex Cooper? And I, I respect you for saying that because I think a lot of women, I've said a lot on my podcast. It's really, it's almost like you feel shame if you don't experience an orgasm or you're not enjoying it right away. And so there's like this weird thing.
18:51 Speaker 01 It's the worst thing, yeah.
18:51 Alex Cooper? And then women don't want to say they're not because like I had a lot of teammates. I was on a soccer team in college and everyone would just be talking about like, oh my God, like I had the best sex last night. And meanwhile, I'm like, out of these 12 girls talking, there's no fucking way every single one of them just had an orgasm last night.
19:05 Speaker 01 No, there's no way. There's no way.
19:06 Alex Cooper? Like, so it's like you lie about it almost because you're embarrassed and you want to like fit in.
19:11 Speaker 01 For sure.
19:11 Alex Cooper? And you're like, what's wrong with me? But I love that you're normalizing like, hey, I didn't enjoy sex till later.
19:16 Speaker 01 I've always been brutally honest. I've never faked an orgasm. Like, I'm not that person to lie to put on airs or whatever it is. Like, it's like, no, I, no, never faking it. Uh, no, I can't do it. It took a very long time for me to be able to. And I think it's important to, why would you lie?
19:33 Alex Cooper? What is the best sex advice that your mother has given you? AKA, give it to us.
19:40 Alex Cooper? AKA, share it with us, Rachel.
19:41 Speaker 01 Oh, God, I'm trying to think. I mean, she's always very into like relaxing, like to the point where your first gyno, you know, your gyno appointment, like envision your vagina. Opening up like a flower and take breaths and like, I'm like, alright, I'll try it. Like here comes the rose. Like, you know what I mean? But it's helpful because it makes it so relaxed and just even having those visuals, which is like super weird to some people, can be really helpful, you know? I was like 13 the first time I went and you're young, like.
20:11 Alex Cooper? It's hard to do that.
20:12 Speaker 01 Oh my God, you're so in your head. And that's the thing about orgasms too. Like you're so in your head and if you have that pressure or whatever, it's never gonna happen.
20:20 Alex Cooper? Never.
20:21 Speaker 01 Ever.
20:21 Alex Cooper? And it's so, but it's so hard and I just want to normalize that it is hard and like, you're not alone if you're listening and you haven't had an orgasm.
20:28 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
20:28 Alex Cooper? You are not alone.
20:29 Speaker 01 No, you're not alone.
20:30 Alex Cooper? I feel like in the past, I know I have definitely faked an orgasm.
20:33 Speaker 01 You have, okay.
20:33 Alex Cooper? I know friends that have.
20:34 Speaker 01 I feel like most women have that I've spoken to.
20:36 Alex Cooper? I think that there's an, there's two parts. Number one, it maybe if I was in college and I was like, I'm never having an orgasm. I'm gonna fucking fake it so it can be over, which I know is so bad and I don't do that anymore.
20:46 Speaker 01 Well, there's another way to get them to finish. Like you say the right things or like, let's speed this along.
20:50 Alex Cooper? Here we go.
20:53 Alex Cooper? Here we go. And then I think the other part is like, there's also some times where I know like I'm having such incredible sex, but I just know that I'm not going to get there.
21:04 Speaker 01 Right.
21:04 Alex Cooper? And so I'm gonna fake it because I genuinely like, you know what? I had a great sex, but I'm just gonna fake it at the end because like I, he probably is gonna keep going because he thinks I haven't finished yet and I know he can finish, so just go ahead.
21:16 Speaker 01 Right, just like.
21:17 Alex Cooper? What do you do though? To like, if a guy's like, have you finished? Like the pressure? Like how do you tell guys basically like, no, I didn't finish?
21:24 Speaker 01 You know what? I am so honest. I can have great sex. It's hard for me to orgasm, but after all, it's like, oh my God, like, you know, that was great or whatever you want to say. Like it felt so good. And it's, it's hard for me to orgasm. It has nothing to do with you. Like, obviously I think we can get there or sometimes if you can't, you don't say those things, but, but if it feels good, you want to give them props.
21:43 Alex Cooper? Obviously the phenomenon of like porn and guys being obsessed with trying to like, get a girl to squirt and like get a girl to like come.
21:51 Speaker 01 Yeah.
21:52 Alex Cooper? They try so hard and they're almost, have you ever had a guy be so focused on trying to give you an orgasm? Like how do you go about that basically being like? Like tapping his head, being like, okay, calm down. Right? Like, what do you do?
22:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, I just pull them up.
22:06 Alex Cooper? You pull them up?
22:07 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. Like, it's just not, yeah, you know, and I think a lot of guys, if they know what they're doing, they can tell if it's not gonna go that way, you know, and I think that comes a lot with experience and age, like with the younger dude, they might not really know, you know, but a guy who's been doing it for a while.
22:22 Alex Cooper? He gets to him.
22:22 Speaker 01 They know what's up.
22:23 Alex Cooper? I agree. I think sometimes ladies, if you're listening and you're struggling with that, like, that's such good advice of like, sometimes you literally don't need to say anything. Like, I've done that so many times where I'm like, okay, like, come fuck me. Like, basically just pull them up and like,
22:34 Speaker 01 Yeah, for sure.
22:35 Alex Cooper? Let's go. And then they'll be like, oh, okay. And then it's, they'll just move on.
22:39 Speaker 01 Yes.
22:40 Alex Cooper? Okay. Have you ever been in a relationship where your partner had different sex drives than you? And how did you guys handle that?
22:47 Speaker 01 For sure. You know, that's an example of getting in your head, because I have been in one where like, or maybe I haven't been as interested after a while in having sex with the person. And in my head, I'm like, okay, I had sex today. If I wait two or three days, okay, maybe I can do it again on Thursday and then he'll be okay, you know? But then you're in your head and then you're like, oh, fuck. And, and I had that for a while, like even after a relationship, being stuck in that and overthinking. Like, we had sex today. Okay, when do I have to have it again to, you know?
23:16 Alex Cooper? That is the most relatable thing. Just to pause you right there, I can imagine how many women are like, me too, Rachel. What the fuck do you do to like combat that?
23:25 Speaker 01 Right. It's, yeah, it's, it's, it's so tough, right? Because battling your head and your body, because they're totally different things. And even if I want to have sex, my head could be like, no, I don't really want to. And then you're stuck in that pattern of like, okay, I'm gonna calculate this.
23:40 Alex Cooper? Do you feel like when that happened to you with that partner? Because I hear what you're saying, like that, that specific, it felt like you're kind of like, I'm not sure if I'm in this anymore and like, I don't know what I'm doing.
23:49 Speaker 01 Right.
23:50 Alex Cooper? Did it go on for a while? Did you end it? Did you find any like remedy for it?
23:54 Speaker 01 Yeah, it was probably like the last year and a half of doing a pattern until it finally broke off.
23:59 Alex Cooper? Yeah.
24:00 Speaker 01 You know, and just sticking to that and being like, because I'm a very, I'm a people pleaser that carries over into relationships.
24:08 Alex Cooper? But I feel like, I feel like in those moments, I feel like that's a good red flag for yourself to know, like, hey, Henry?
24:16 Speaker 01 No, I'm letting, he needs his space. There he goes.
24:18 Alex Cooper? Oh my god, thank you. I think in those moments, what I would say to women is, number one, it may be a good red flag for you to be like, hey, maybe I'm not as into this person as I thought.
24:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, like, listen to what's going on.
24:31 Alex Cooper? Also, I would say I've sometimes had moments where I'm just like, out of it with my sex drive and it's not my partner. And so, sometimes like, maybe finding time for yourself to masturbate.
24:42 Speaker 01 Right, which is way easier. Like, if you need an orgasm, it's so much easier and quicker, yourself because you know your body so well.
24:49 Alex Cooper? And then I feel like sometimes for me, and I don't know if you feel the same, but like, sometimes then when I do that, like, maybe I'll be a little bit more horny that day. And then like, I'm like, ooh, I kind of would want to have sex tonight. Like,
24:57 Speaker 01 Right.
24:57 Alex Cooper? So just making sure, just checking in with yourself is really what it is about. And it's really not about your partner.
25:03 Speaker 01 Yeah, it can be either. There is a difference, for sure. And I've been in both.
25:07 Alex Cooper? How do you approach bringing a toy into the bedroom for the first time with a partner?
25:11 Speaker 01 Okay, so I have very little experience with this. I didn't even have a vibrator until a few years ago. Like, I was gifted one from a guy I was dating. I was like, fuck, yeah, like, that's awesome. Like, okay, he's totally open. And that, I feel like that shows a guy with awareness, right? And I had, I've only used one with that person. Uh, and I haven't really brought it back since, but I would like to.
25:37 Alex Cooper? Did you like using it with your partner?
25:40 Speaker 01 I did, except there was like, one thing we were doing and it like, really hurt. Like, it was not the right. I was like, maybe this isn't the right way to be doing this. But I think it can be totally fun. And it should be more accepted. And I know there are guys out there that would feel like their ego hurt. Like, oh, why do you need this? Like, I can give you this.
25:56 Alex Cooper? It's like, no, your tongue can't buzz like that.
25:59 Speaker 01 No, like, it doesn't actually vibrate. But like, just having guys that are aware and are like, oh, this is gonna help her. And then they actually are about you being pleasured as well, I think is awesome.
26:10 Alex Cooper? Have you used it alone eventually?
26:13 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah, for sure.
26:14 Alex Cooper? And I think they're great. And I feel like I actually, it's funny, I was gifted one as well, back in college.
26:19 Speaker 01 Like, your first one?
26:20 Alex Cooper? Yes. I was literally using a toothbrush at the time. It was an electric toothbrush, the back of the head.
26:26 Speaker 01 Hey, you know?
26:27 Alex Cooper? And my friend Lauren was Like I went through a breakup and she was like, Alex, come with me. I'm like, where are we going? And she brought me to a sex shop and she was like, we need to get you a vibrator because stop using your toothbrush. I'm like, I don't brush my teeth with it. Please let me clarify. Right. But I think it was a, it was a cute moment because then afterwards, like I definitely enjoyed time alone with myself and I enjoyed time with my partner more, but I agree, like you have to find the right one for sex. Right. And I think you're right. It takes a certain partner, someone that's confident in themselves and wants to make sure that they're pleasing you. If maybe even if your partner was like, oh, Rachel has mentioned, like sometimes it's hard for her to orgasm. Like, let me think outside the box because I want her to enjoy sex as much as I'm enjoying it. Like, let's get her a vibrator.
27:08 Alex Cooper? I think that's someone that's really confident in themselves and the relationship and wants you to enjoy yourself.
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29:22 Speaker 01 Okay, I did not actually say that. I'm happy you brought that up.
29:25 Alex Cooper? Woo, let's clarify.
29:27 Speaker 01 I said, okay, obviously he and I, we're not still together, so we broke up, but it was during, you know, a time where you could not leave your house. Okay. You had to sit in whatever it was that you were going through. So I had to deal with this. I had to deal with being alone and taking care of my kid and like everything else. And I'm like, being isolated and not being able to connect with any humans, not being able to help myself. Like I got into a depression, like all of these things, that time having to be forced to face all of your shit, I said was harder than childbirth. Is anything more painful? Fuck no. Maybe kidney stones, which definitely is a close second, but like, no, I didn't say that. You know, all breakups are hard.
30:10 Alex Cooper? Of course.
30:11 Speaker 01 You know, like especially when you are in something that you're really into and things happen, you know, and fucking things change and, you know, there was a pandemic. Like there were so many things going on. Yes, it was a hard time.
30:26 Alex Cooper? I cannot imagine. I think I know a lot of people messaged me going through breakups and pandemics. I mean, people were going through so much in the pandemic, whether it was almost like a breakup within yourself of self-realizing something. There was a lot. And so I completely understand what you're saying with regard to that.
30:43 Speaker 01 Think about it. And the first thing you want to do like after a breakup is like, get out there and you know, Socialize and be out with your friends and like your, you know, do your thing and you literally can only sit in a house. With your child that you're taking care of. You can't even take care of yourself first, you know? And just sit with life and everything that comes along with it. So it was just like about being isolated and going through the pandemic with all the things in life.
31:10 Alex Cooper? When you broke up because it was a pandemic, was it like a phone call? Like, did you even get to see this person in person when you guys broke up?
31:17 Speaker 01 It was not, yeah, I was not in person. Yeah, well, because you know, in the beginning, when you're so isolated and you're so scared because you don't know. Like you're like, oh my God, I looked at someone like, am I gonna die? Um, and you know, he has his own family he has to think about. I had my own family to think about and like obviously. Briar's dad, like, you know, it was like our bubble. So like, we're not gonna see anyone. He's not gonna see anyone. So it was definitely done and not like your normal, like in person way.
31:44 Alex Cooper? What helped you ultimately heal from the pain of that heartbreak with Bill?
31:49 Speaker 01 You know what was so interesting? Having, it was almost like a blessing in disguise. So having to be alone with all of the shit. And your thoughts and not leave the house. Like, I had to look at everything and I'm like, okay. I've been in therapy for years, which I love. Big fan, big advocate. Um, and like do therapy, like write if that helps you. Like I was reading books. I was doing things that I, I never had time to do. Um, and it gave me that time to just really do things for myself. Like, yes, I'm looking after my kid. But there was obviously shared time, so I would have time absolutely alone, alone, alone. And I got to do the things that I always wanted to do and it really helped me and it was like, oh, I'm focusing just on me.
32:32 Speaker 01 And it's not about the guy or you know, the relationship. It's literally just about me as a human. I was happy that I was forced to sit in like the pain or the, the hurt or you know, all the feelings that come along. With it because I got to get through it. Some people will hold on to that for years, like because they'll distract themselves. So you don't actually face those feelings you're feeling.
32:55 Alex Cooper? I mean, if we can talk about that a little bit, because I think a lot of people can relate to that topic of like. Kinda knowing something maybe isn't right. But, and again, being in a pandemic, like, how did you?
33:09 Alex Cooper? Or I don't know if it was your decision, but come to that decision of like, I'm, this is gonna end, even if it's a pandemic, like, how did you get to that point to end it, or whoever ended it?
33:19 Speaker 01 I think it was the stress of the situation in the world that led to it. No one knew how to be or react, you know, and I think it was just a result of that alone, the stress of it all.
33:33 Alex Cooper? Oh, really?
33:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
33:33 Alex Cooper? Cause do you think if the pandemic hadn't happened, maybe?
33:36 Speaker 01 I mean, I would think it probably would have went on maybe a little longer, but then in retrospect, looking at it, you're like, obviously it would have ended, cause it did, you know?
33:45 Alex Cooper? Right, right, right.
33:46 Speaker 01 It's not.
33:46 Alex Cooper? But maybe it almost ended faster.
33:48 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
33:49 Alex Cooper? So I guess it's kind of like a good way to look at like a positive, because I think a lot of times, like, we have-
33:54 Speaker 01 Well, you get deeper into it and more time goes by, but ultimately, it's not the one.
33:59 Alex Cooper? Right.
33:59 Speaker 01 So it was, like I said, blessing in disguise in many ways.
34:03 Alex Cooper? Have you, through relationships now, like, when you think of the one? And like, what your wants are, how have you found that through what you've gone through with your past relationships?
34:14 Speaker 01 I think that's everything, and I think people, and as you get older, you know, I'm forty years old, you go through all these experiences and you're like, oh, I'm taking things from each thing, right? So there's always a positive, cause it's like, I recognize something in this relationship that did not work for me. So the next time I need this, and I've gotten to a place now where I know exactly what I want, what I need, and for the first time, I'm not afraid to say it.
34:38 Alex Cooper? Can you give us an example of something from any relationship you've ever been in that you're like, this is something I know personally for me that just like, doesn't work for me in a relationship?
34:46 Speaker 01 Hmm.
34:47 Alex Cooper? And then also a need?
34:48 Speaker 01 Like, someone controlling's never good.
34:50 Alex Cooper? Never.
34:51 Speaker 01 You know?
34:51 Alex Cooper? Never.
34:52 Speaker 01 And I, like I said, people pleasing, I was definitely weaker and I could like, be subjected to that and be like, okay, like, yeah, I'll just do whatever he says. And that's a pattern with me in a lot of the relationships I've had. So that's something like huge, that I'm like, no, I need to make my decisions and I need to stick to what I know and be strong. Like, the strength in me would always be a lot weaker in relationships when I was younger. And now, being older, I know exactly, like, how to speak up for myself, I should say.
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37:18 Alex Cooper? Have you gotten to a point though where like you can recognize when it's happening?
37:24 Speaker 01 Yes.
37:24 Alex Cooper? And then know how to get out of it?
37:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things because when you're in something and you don't see it, but then you get out of it, it's so clear.
37:32 Alex Cooper? Yeah.
37:33 Speaker 01 That now that you can recognize it, because you've acknowledged that you can recognize it, anytime it comes up, you're like, oh no, he's doing this thing.
37:40 Alex Cooper? Yep.
37:40 Speaker 01 I'm not okay with it.
37:41 Alex Cooper? What is a need? What are you like, these, this is something I definitely need in a partner.
37:46 Speaker 01 I need someone, make me coffee in the morning, like fuck, yes, thank you. Honestly, I crave, just like on top of me, missionary, like some dudes that like aren't down with that. I need a man on top of me sometimes, you know what I mean? And like, that's another thing sexually, I'm like, yes, like own it. I need to feel it, like, like Carrie says in sex, I need to feel the weight of a man on top of me. It's like, I can so relate to that.
38:09 Alex Cooper? Guys, if anyone's listening, Rachel needs coffee and missionary.
38:13 Speaker 01 I mean, I feel like it's doable.
38:15 Alex Cooper? Are you currently single?
38:17 Speaker 01 I am not.
38:19 Alex Cooper? Okay, okay. Is he bringing you coffee in the morning and is he doing missionary?
38:22 Speaker 01 Fuck yeah.
38:24 Alex Cooper? That's actually great.
38:25 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:26 Alex Cooper? Is there anything that you look back and you're like, there's a theme throughout people you've dated?
38:32 Speaker 01 A theme? I do, I have noticed, this isn't, this is a generalization, right? I think I've dated quite a few actors and I do think that some of them, not all, have very like self-involved tendencies. Um, and I think that just kind of comes along with the territory a lot of the time, right? I'm not saying all of them that I've dated have them, but it is a theme. Um, and I don't like it.
38:58 Alex Cooper? Do you think you would ever stray from the actors?
39:00 Speaker 01 Oh yeah, for sure.
39:02 Alex Cooper? Really?
39:02 Speaker 01 I always tell myself like never again, and then of course, you know, you're in another project, another person. Um, but no, you know, and I will say, you know, with respect for my daughter's father.
39:13 Alex Cooper? Of course.
39:13 Speaker 01 He is not like that.
39:16 Alex Cooper? I get what you're saying of like it, you don't want to fall into that tendency and then you're on a movie set. Is it hard when you're, um, single and on sets to like not get involved in that kind of stuff?
39:28 Speaker 01 Well, for sure, because think about it, any workplace you're in, you're surrounded by the people, you're around them every day and you'll meet different personalities and sometimes you'll really have chemistry with someone. Doesn't matter where you are. Yes, it's a set, but it's literally someone you're spending mostly 12 hours a day with. So you're going to get to know these people better than you would get to know someone you're just casually dating in the beginning because it's literally.
39:52 Alex Cooper? That's why I feel like a lot of people do get into like workplace relationships. I'm not encouraging it everyone. But like any job you're at, if you work in sales, real estate, it doesn't, it doesn't have to be entertainment. And you are with that person all day, every day, and it starts as a friendship, right? It starts as you're cordial, you're going to get to the coffee together, you're going to craft services together and you're then talking about your life. And all of a sudden that blossoms into like, oh, wait, maybe you could be know though, it could always end.
40:22 Speaker 01 Of course.
40:23 Alex Cooper? And if it's going to potentially always end.
40:25 Speaker 01 Be friends.
40:26 Alex Cooper? Be friends and like protect yourself and like make decisions of like, before you jump in, I think some people that have maybe like, I think actors are lucky because it's like, then you're off to your next project.
40:35 Speaker 01 Right. It's like summer camp a lot of the time.
40:37 Alex Cooper? Yes. Yes. And if you're in a nine to five sweetheart, that's not summer camp. All day round, baby. So make sure you're going to be cozy if he's in the cubicle and like a couple of weeks later you guys break up.
40:47 Speaker 01 Yeah, for sure.
40:48 Alex Cooper? Cause that's difficult.
40:49 Speaker 01 Way difficult.
40:50 Alex Cooper? Okay. You get very personal on your pod. Has it been cathartic to talk about your personal life on your podcast?
41:00 Speaker 01 It has like, I'm still a very private person. Like I won't like name names or you know, but I want, we wanted to create a space that, and you know what? Before we started, I listened to your first call her daddy and I was like,
41:13 Alex Cooper? My first call daddy podcast?
41:14 Speaker 01 Yes. The fact that you were so just transparent and like, didn't give a fuck. Like you said, every, you know what I mean?
41:23 Alex Cooper? The guy texted me and I said, I want you to degrade me.
41:26 Speaker 01 Yes.
41:26 Alex Cooper? Oh my God, that's awful. God bless. I remember that recording that to this day.
41:30 Speaker 01 You do?
41:30 Alex Cooper? Oh, oh my God. I remember going in there and just being like, I'm just going to say everything that happened this week.
41:35 Speaker 01 Right.
41:35 Alex Cooper? I had no idea what I was doing. I'd never listened to a podcast in my life before I recorded that. I think my voice was so affected, so fake. I was like, hi guys, this is Alex. I can't listen back, so it pains.
41:48 Speaker 01 Well, I get it. It's like watching your first project. You're like, oh, my God, like, what is that? I get it. But that being said, just the very like transparency and just being super honest and open. I fucking loved, you know? And so my best friend Olivia and I were like, we want to create a safe space where women or even men, you know, we have men coming on now, just being open and honest and getting into it and not afraid to speak whatever's on their mind. Like, obviously, we go there about sex, but we, it's life, right? And we're moms and it's, it's a whole different thing and it's a different phase of life, but it feels really good to have our own platform to do that.
42:24 Alex Cooper? I love that. And I think that, listen, I have had some where I come up with fake names for people and then people still find it out. So don't do that. If you're a private Rachel, I'll give you that tip. Don't come up with like, oh, this one's door number three and this is Slim Shady and don't do that. But when you talk about the themes of what you're going through, that is relatable because we all can relate in some capacity. We're all human beings going through depression, anxiety, happiness, stress, sadness, like hard times with your romantic, with your family, with your friends. And so I think like, it's cool to have anyone sit down in front of a microphone and be open. Like, I think everyone can appreciate that.
43:00 Speaker 01 I would hope so. And I think it's accessible and people like kind of crave that authenticity.
43:05 Alex Cooper? Yeah.
43:05 Speaker 01 And I think for me, it's like, okay, I can speak personally about my own experiences, but I don't want to like bring other people in that don't have a mic in front of them and can't either defend or share their side.
43:15 Alex Cooper? That is the catch 22 of it all, sweetie. And I'm still trying to figure it out.
43:20 Speaker 01 I know, right?
43:21 Alex Cooper? You gotta like push the boundary, but it's also like respecting, I get it, respecting people in your life.
43:26 Speaker 01 Absolutely.
43:27 Alex Cooper? I think I read you don't introduce your child to people you date.
43:32 Speaker 01 I've learned from, you know, mistakes in the past that you don't want to do it too quickly.
43:37 Alex Cooper? Yeah.
43:37 Speaker 01 But luckily, you know, she's only seven now and she was a lot younger before and whatnot. So it probably didn't resonate as much as it would now per se. Um, but yeah, I think that's super important because I don't want it to look like some revolving door or I don't know how it's going to affect her. And she's number one for me, like
43:54 Alex Cooper? Totally.
43:55 Speaker 01 hands down. Before work, before men, before anything. Um, and so I don't take that lightly.
44:03 Alex Cooper? Have you had a lot of people that are respectful of that?
44:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, I've only had positive experiences luckily, but also that speaks to like me knowing what I need and want now. So I'm not going to entertain anything. If they don't understand the kid comes first.
44:15 Alex Cooper? And I think that's great. And it's also like, ladies, be fucking confident. Like you did the most incredible thing in the world, which is bring a human being onto this earth. And like, if someone is not going to be positive and accepting of however you want to handle the boundaries. Tell them to fuck themselves and find someone better.
44:32 Speaker 01 For sure. And a lot of women have those insecurities, I think.
44:34 Alex Cooper? Absolutely.
44:35 Speaker 01 Moms or whatever age you are at that point and just thinking like, oh, our guy's gonna want it. It's like, oh, fuck that.
44:40 Alex Cooper? Yeah, totally. Being a public figure most of your life, is there anything that you would like to share? That you think maybe is like a misconception about you or people maybe think about you that you're like, oh, I would like to like clarify and kind of just say my piece on that.
44:54 Speaker 01 God, you know, I feel like I've been fortunate enough to have mostly a positive response. And I think, you know, I love that. It's important to me like how I carry myself, setting an example, whatever, but I'm super fucking crass and like have a dirty sense of humor. And I'm not afraid to show it. And I think it'll come through on Broad Ideas, like the new podcast. Um, but I feel very fortunate. Like I feel like I've gone through this time of my life where I've been, you know, working or whatever. In a decent way where I can be proud that my daughter will see how I carried myself.
45:28 Alex Cooper? What do you attribute that to? Cause I think a lot of people are like, fuck, like this shit, like I got me fucked up by being in the public, whether it was. Maybe they didn't come from the best family to give them values or whether.
45:38 Speaker 01 No, that's, yeah.
45:38 Alex Cooper? Like, what do you think you, why you just end up having such a good, like, straight and narrow path of there's not a lot of drama around you?
45:45 Speaker 01 I think that the support system you have around you is huge. All my best friends are my best friends since high school and before and junior high. Never strayed from that. I don't make new friends often. Um, and my family, I have a very supportive family. Um, and I grew up that way and a loving, open mom, clearly. Um, and I think that is such a big part of it. And people around you that know you so well, like can just, if you have a moment, you're like, no, no, no, no, no. Like get the fuck back down here. What are you doing? And I have that and we trust that. And it's like the friends like, no, you can't borrow my new dress. Like it's that comfortability of like, I haven't worn it yet, you know?
46:23 Alex Cooper? Yeah, you can be real with each other. You can be real. Totally. No, I really respect you saying that. And I feel like it's really cool to get to sit down with you because we respect your work so much. And so now it's cool to be able to like, sit with Rachel Bilson and talk with you and get to know you. I'm such a fan of yours. I was like, oh, my God, I got to sit. Like, it was just such a cool thing. And I think this is so beautiful what you're doing. I love it. And it inspired me to, you know, just be able to go there. Like, you gave me the confidence. It's like, you can be who the fuck you are and say what the fuck you want and still be a successful woman in this world. And it's awesome. Rachel, thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy.
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