Real Stranger Things - The UFO Year In Review

2025 passed by at the speed of a comet. What, if any, progress was made in the goal of UFO transparency? WEAPONIZED found itself in the thick of the battle. During the past 12 months, our podcast introduced to the world whistleblowers and witnesses whose statements and testimony helped move the needle - Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland, Alexandro Wiggins, Jeff Nuccitelli, among others - unveiled and confirmed UFO/UAP/USO images and videos that were previously hidden inside government servers; heard from former insiders turned authors Dr. James Lacatski, Dr. Jacques Vallée, Jay Stratton, Col. Phil Corso; assisted and interviewed members of Congress including Representatives Luna, Burchett, and Burlison; and gave a global platform to journalists, investigators, and content creators including Ralph Blumenthal, Richard Dolan, David Paulides, Marik von Rennenkampff, Dustin Slaughter, Chris Sharpe; and provided much-needed context to ongoing stories, including troubling incursions by mystery drones, the apparent about-face among major media organizations' interest in the topic, and active efforts to de-legitimize Congressional inquiries as well as overall public interest in these ancient, interconnected phenomena. New books (by Lacatski and Dolan, among others), new or continuing television series (UFO Revolution on Tubi, Investigation Alien on Netflix, NewsNation broadcasts), and new films (Age of Disclosure, Moment of Contact, and others) generated renewed enthusiasm around the world, but also instigated shadowy counterintelligence operations. Throughout 2025, WEAPONIZED warned that significant “pushback” was coming. In this year-end episode, Jeremy and George express and explain their belief that the long-rumored pushback isn’t something that looms over the future of the subject. It’s here. GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://netflix.com/title/81674441⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• You can now watch all of Corbell's movies for free on YouTube here : BOB LAZAR : AREA 51 & FLYING SAUCERS https://youtu.be/sZaE5rIavVA HUNT FOR THE SKINWALKER https://youtu.be/TczkJ6UAQ8A PATIENT SEVENTEEN https://youtu.be/gDVX0kRqXxE ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:00Jeremy Corbell?

  We did make a lot of progress. 2025 was awesome for UFOs and for learning more. So expectations for 2026. I'm hoping this is the year of creatures. I'm hoping we talk about the pilots of the UAP or UFOs. This is Weaponized.

• 1:27George Knapp?

  This is Weaponized. I'm George Knapp here in Las Vegas, joined by my friend and colleague Jeremy Corbell, wherever you are in front of that safe. How's it going, Jeremy?

• 1:36Jeremy Corbell?

  Pretty good, man. I'm building an ark. It's been raining in California. It's pretty crazy.

• 1:41George Knapp?

  Yeah, it's supposed to rain here. Now, at the time we're recording this, it's just before New Year's Eve, and it's supposed to rain for New Year's Eve, first time since the 1930s. So that'll be, put a little damper on the festivities. I get a feeling it won't matter one bit to the revelers who are going to be crammed onto Las Vegas Strip, though.

• 2:00Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, man. Nothing stops New Year's, man. It's coming no matter what.

• 2:04George Knapp?

  You know, we're thinking back about all we covered in 2025. When you get into like my age bracket, the years go by really fast. I mean, five minutes ago, it was 2025, and now, look, it's 2028 here in Las Vegas. I mean, that's how fast it goes. But we covered a lot of stuff. We covered a lot of ground. I remember back in our naive, younger years, when we thought Weaponized could cover things other than UFOs. We had Ben Snyder of Lord Huron, which was a great episode. We had John Long talking about the movie industry. He's from Booty Jones. People with non-UFO guests, and all of them fascinating. But our audience wouldn't allow us to stay on that path, would they?

• 2:45Jeremy Corbell?

  No, you know, that was a hard lesson to learn. We called it Weaponized because anything that made us curious, we were like, we're gonna go after. But, you know, I do understand that the core audience of people want to hear about the UFO topic. And so we do focus mainly on that. Don't have a lot of guests outside of UFO land. However, everything we covered this year, it amazed me. You know, you're always asking, is, did we make any progress? And I don't know what progress looks like when you're searching the UFO topic. But holy cow, when I was going through everything, we did make a lot of progress. 2025 was awesome for UFOs and for learning more. If we were looking at this 50 years ago, we wouldn't believe it. I bet, I don't believe it at times.

• 3:30Jeremy Corbell?

  And I feel like we're gonna continue making progress, man.

• 3:33George Knapp?

  Yeah, if you look back at the list of episodes we aired, we recorded and aired this year, you can see how kind of, we were kind of sneaky about things. I mean, we introduced a lot of witnesses, whistleblowers, who later became much more well-known in the year. Well, we gave people a preview of what was to come later in the year, and when these names became sort of household words.

• 3:58Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, man. I remember looking at the beginning of the new year and it was very like dramatic. For me, it was very dramatic because just before the beginning of 2025, there was a UFO hearing and it was the first time the world heard about Immaculate Constellation. You know, you and I had been going through this a long time. It got into the zeitgeist, but no Matthew Brown. It was just submitted on a congressional record. And at the beginning of the new year, I had this show called UFO Revolution on Tubi. And what was cool about it was it launched at the beginning of the year and it showed you what happened in Congress. It showed you behind the scenes. And then I said something kind of crazy. I was like, they're gonna tell you there's a spaceship coming.

• 4:41Jeremy Corbell?

  And lo and behold, so it was a very dramatic kind of beginning to the new year, but I would say it was the year of whistleblowers. You and I might know Matthew Brown. We might know about Dylan Borland, you know, as we're kind of prepping to get them forward. And even Chief Wiggins. But I'm looking at it from the perspective of just public seeing people come up to testify or come out forward. It was a big deal to have these whistleblowers full face come forward. We didn't have them before 2025.

• 5:14George Knapp?

  Right, so let's, before we leave that thing about the comet, let's go back to that because there's a lot of confusion about what you were talking about. Even now, after you've explained it a couple of times, people assign, how did Jeremy know this comet is coming and it's gonna smash into the earth and kill all of us, kind of a thing? Talk a little bit about that for those who didn't hear the explanation again.

• 5:35Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, so that was, gosh, I don't know how many times I can, I can say it. I'm not, you know, trying to avoid the question. So just at the beginning of the year, if you watch the, the Tubi series in January, I said, you're gonna be told that there is a spacecraft, an alien spacecraft slowly coming to earth. And it sounded totally crazy at the time. But the reason why I said it is because, I mean, the pressure of people trying to push that narrative on me and other people within, you know, UFO world who are talking about it was so extreme. I called BS on it, absolute BS. It it looked like I was predictive because you know what, six months later and all of a sudden they announced three I Atlas and they're and all of a sudden Avi Loeb, you know, who's talking

• 6:20Jeremy Corbell?

  about, he was kind of like a consensus of one, but he was out there talking about how it could be a spacecraft slowly coming to earth. I mean, that was the narrative pushed in the mainstream media. So everybody's looking at me like, how did you know? Unfortunately, I'm not psychic. It it's that as I'm investigating UFOs, as we're talking with the boys, as we're talking with intelligence agency people, that was a theme that kept coming up and I was worried about it. I was worried that people like me were being contacted saying, hey, come into this little small club, we're going to tell you something that's going to happen. And I could feel, I knew it was bullshit. And so I just went out on a limb and tried to, you know, what nip it in the bud, as they say, and and let people know that is something that is being said within these circles.

• 7:05Jeremy Corbell?

  It it really did shock me that it ended up playing out the way that it did in mass media. It really did look like I was psychic, but it was not that.

• 7:14George Knapp?

  One of the other things we touched on early in 2025, and of course drones were all over the place, they were news, but I think the phrase that I had used at one point was drones are the new swamp gas. And that's where it caught on. I saw a bunch of other people through the course of the year use the same phrase. And and of course, that was a sort of a a harbinger of drone coverage to come from us on Weaponized. We touched on the drone topic a bunch of times and for obvious reasons. I mean, it was in regular news media was covering it and suddenly people were asking, what the hell are these things?

• 7:47Jeremy Corbell?

  And and if you look even further back, you and I had these conversations saying, oh, wow, like every UFO event is going to be, you know, tried to be explained away by drones. And then you get this like by mimicry, as Dr. Kelleher talks about, you know, which is that you you have real drone incursions, which are probably just drones and they're mystified, you know, they're they're intentionally mystified in the media. But that's to cover up the fact that we do have anomalous aerial vehicles. That are in restricted airspace over nuclear sites that are very strange shapes. You and I talked about, we had a source that talked about how, you know, having footage of a pyramid shaped UFO moving up on the east coast

• 8:30Jeremy Corbell?

  outside of a critical infrastructure place. We actually told the FBI about it, that the footage exists and that they should go get it. So there was this, this real event of anomalous aerospace vehicles that were going in these restricted areas, but then also you just have the chaos of like political drone incursions. So it got kind of murky.

• 8:51George Knapp?

  You know, looking back at, at some of the ways we introduced whistleblowers and witnesses, it looks kind of sneaky in a sense. But we started, for example, I think it was in April, where we, we started giving hints about what was to come. And we started with a video of what looked like four different Tic Tacs buzzing around the USS Jackson. That video really made some news, did it not?

• 9:17Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah. So when we, throughout the year, we released video footage, that one was really special because it was in the area where the Tic Tacs are known to, to congregate. And this was from 2023. And it was basically a leaked video that got to us. And I was able to go in and stabilize it and make sure that, you know, we could put it out in the form that it was. And that was, it turns out that was witnessed by a man named Senior Chief Alejandro Wiggins. And man, that footage went far and wide. So talk about UFO footage that is unresolved. We have Merrick who's been jumping in on that footage. It is unresolved, every debunking attempt.

• 9:59Jeremy Corbell?

  And we have eyewitnesses that came out later that said they saw it come out of the water. So that was a really cool piece of footage to be able to put out to the public.

• 10:08George Knapp?

  Yeah. I mean, we obviously didn't know Alexandra was going to be available to us and be able to speak to us on camera at that point, but man, he came forward and it was great. And, and we also didn't know that he would be called as a witness before Congress later in the year.

• 10:22Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, I didn't know that he'd be able to do that, being an active Navy guy. You know, that's a big step just for him. It's also a big step for the Navy to allow that to occur. And look, he's just a witness and saw that we had released the video and was like, "I can tell you exactly what happened because I was there. I saw one of the Tic Tacs come up out of the water." So that was something that unfolded over months in 2025. People might not remember too, that same month in April, we had Jeff Nussa Tally and he came on and we actually published the police blotter from Vandenberg Air Force Base

• 11:02Jeremy Corbell?

  that shows that there was this huge red cube UAP incursion at Vandenberg. Now that was submitted in Congress, but before that it was launched on Weaponized. He allowed us to put that out.

• 11:14George Knapp?

  Same is true for Immaculate Constellation. I mean, we'd heard about this. We'd been looking at documents for a while. Didn't know for sure if we were ever going to be able to put it out. I had enough information to go forward, but we did. We dropped a bomb when Matthew Brown revealed his identity, came on on Weaponized. That was not an easy thing to pull off, as I recall.

• 11:34Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, so that was a really and remains a kind of a tough one because, you know, Matthew did not want to come forward. He, you know, he wanted the, our government to understand that they're being lied to. He wanted people in power, in Congress, in Senate, to understand that this was going on, that there's an artificial intelligence program that scours that they call Immaculate Constellation. That was the operation, you know, to find and remove these UAP UFO videos. But it ended up going so much deeper and he's such a deep thinker. So what he did was he wrote a report. This is not the... What what he read called Immaculate Constellation when he was on the inside of

• 12:19Jeremy Corbell?

  the State Department, this was his report from perfect memory, writing down exactly what he had experienced and read about. And I think there's actually more for him to tell. But him coming forward with his face, I mean, you could see, man, if you go back to the Matthew Brown weaponized episodes, that that's genuine. He was, he was terrified because he he got pushed to a point where he realized it's better people know who I am than not know because of the pressures he was getting. And man, you could see his like mouth quivering at times because he was, he was so conflicted about coming forward with his face. It wasn't something he wanted to do. It was something he felt he needed to do.

• 13:01George Knapp?

  I recall the pushback we got because we we broke that up into three episodes. People were so angry. I want it all. I want it now, which, you know, I think our strategy was basically, look, we're going to give it in digestible pieces so you can think about it because he laid a lot of information out, a lot to absorb for anyone, including us. And we broke it up into three, so that people had a time to think about all the stuff he was laying laying out for for us. And I think it was a it was a good decision, even though people probably still ticked off at us.

• 13:34Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, it and look, it's years of getting to a point where you can do that recording and you can put it out and you can inform Congress even of who this individual was, although he did kind of sneak in with me. You saw that in UFO Revolution. And I got him right in front of Congress people so he could tell them what he had uncovered. But he's taken so much personal risk. I do remember also in 2025, right after that, so I think it was in June, so May is when Matthew Brown finally came forward. But let's talk a little bit about footage. In June, we released one of the most interesting pieces of designated

• 14:15Jeremy Corbell?

  by our government and military UAP footage of what appears to be looks like a disk. We didn't call it that. It was labeled by the Air Force as large disk UAP. I mean, you can't get any more clear than that. This is an extraordinary piece of footage. First of all, because it's Air Force, it was an Air Force asset that captured it. And the Air Force has been so quiet about the UFO thing, all the way back to to Blue Book. But we put out this thing, large disk UAP, military filmed UFO footage. It was officially documented and catalogued in the intelligence community. And it was being investigated, like they did the punch-ins, they did the edge clarification.

• 15:00Jeremy Corbell?

  Michael, the Wizard of Oz of Weaponized, you know, he did an AI version to try to clarify it a little bit. And it made the disk look like a little bit wobbly, but you can see a lot more details in other ways. So that piece of footage, getting that out to the public, that is footage they didn't want you to see. It's the first time I've seen like a absolute either sphere or disk with such clarity. And that was, I'm really glad we were able to put that out.

• 15:30George Knapp?

  You know, again, people get mad at us for not giving them everything we've got everywhere at any time, immediately. Turn it all over, but you have to be careful with things like this. Number one, you and I, as I said before, we don't want to endanger national security. We don't want to cross a line that does something that harms our military, or creates a threat that didn't exist before. But we happen to know that there are repositories of videos and images like that stashed on different servers. We've been saying that for a long time. And we try to take our time and analyze the material and make sure it's legit. And make sure that it is legitimately UAP. And again, we're not experts, image analysts or anything like that.

• 16:14George Knapp?

  We call it UAP because that's what the military calls it. And they have stashes of these kind of images in different places across the federal government, different servers. And I hope that we're going to be able to release more of those in the coming year. But you know, it's not our whim that we withhold this stuff on purpose to tease people. We don't release it until it's ready to be released.

• 16:37Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, it's called due diligence. And let's go into a specific example of this. You know, first of all, you know, the other thing about this is that UAP footage of the disk from the Air Force. That got all over mainstream media. We're talking CNN. If you remember, I went on and did a full interview where we talked about that disc thing on CNN. So people talk about, well, is mainstream media covering it? Yes, just play back the clips. Just look, you know, that footage ends up getting out there and absorbing into, you know, pop culture and the zeitgeist, which I think is really important. But it's kind of like vindication when people say that we put stuff out, oh, it's got to be nonsense. If you remember, George, you and I

• 17:21Jeremy Corbell?

  put something out called the Mosul Orb, and it was, and it was a still image. And this is because as we obtain and release stuff, we have to make sure, again, national security, that we know, we're not experts at this. We've got to make sure it doesn't blatantly hurt national security, but also protecting sources. So we put out an image and people were like, oh, that's a raindrop, that's a puddle in the road, and that's not even military footage. And then low and behold, one of the biggest kind of successes of 2025 is that, I think it was in July, Dustin Slaughter, who's an amazing journalist, who uses FOIA to get in

• 18:02Jeremy Corbell?

  and get information out of, like, let's say, the Air Force, but also, he litigates. It was an incredible win. He was able to get the actual video of the Mosul Orb. That was the death nail. That put everything to rest, that we had actually done proper reporting, and that we were telling it like it is, and that we released a still image, and now the world gets to see the video of the Mosul Orb. And it looks weird. It looks like a cartoon. It's so weird. But a big, you know, silver metallic, non-descending, kind of orb, I guess, an orb, a UAP orb. That was just so cool. The Dustin picked up where we had put down and got the video.

• 18:47George Knapp?

  Yeah, it was great work. It shows you that FOIA can be useful if it's in the right hands. So we had a bunch of whistleblowers that came forward. Jeff Nuccitelli, Alexandro Wiggins. Matthew Brown and then later in the year, we dropped a real bomb with Dylan Borland and Dylan. We've been talking to Dylan for a while. I think the first time I saw him in person, we were followed and whoever was following us made it pretty obvious that we were being followed. And and his story was always fascinating. It was clear he was not making this stuff up. His life was kind of a mess because he'd been willing to say something about the things he learned while on the inside.

• 19:26Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, Dylan Borland is telling it like it is, and that's something that I think will really be reiterated in 2026. Because you know, there's pushback coming when someone like Dylan Borland comes out. And I've seen it on the inside. Let's see if it comes to the outside, to the public. But he came forward genuinely because he felt a duty to do so, and it was years. It was years in the making. Again, a reluctant whistleblower. Dylan Borland did not want to put his face out there. Neither did Matt Brown. But they did it because they thought this was important. And even though they just have a small piece to the puzzle, the UFO thing, they felt like it was important. So yeah, that was a big deal when Dylan finally came forward.

• 20:10Jeremy Corbell?

  And then it all kind of culminated. And I know you don't like talking about your own stuff, but George, this was a cool moment. Okay, so in 2025, we had yet another UFO hearing when we hadn't had them in 50 years before this this series of hearings. And this time, it was really a whistleblower panel. I mean, so you've got Jeff Nussetali, you've got Dylan Borland, you've got Matthew Brown was present, and he was acknowledged for what he had delivered to Congress by Representative Burleson. But we also had a Navy, an active Navy guy, and that's Alexander Wiggins. And that was Alexandra Wiggins, and that was just so cool. And then, George, you were there.

• 20:56Jeremy Corbell?

  And it was like, man, I remember the first UFO hearing we went to. And you were like, oh, my, I can't believe this is happening like they're saying it out loud. And you're almost like having a Twilight Zone moment. What was it like to finally kind of be up there? You had talked to Congress and your backdoor meetings, you, Harry Reid, all these things in the background. But what was it like to finally talk publicly about you going to Russia smuggling documents back?

• 21:26George Knapp?

  Well, it was sort of like an out of body experience. Partially, it didn't feel real. It also felt daunting. I mean, now you realize, hey, this is a real thing that's happening here. Speaking under oath, uh, holding your hand up. Uh, that was a strange moment. And then, of course, not wanting to screw up. You know, I'm, as you know, I was, I had written a, a presentation that probably would have taken me two hours to go through. And they wanted five minutes and I was still writing it in the car on the way over. In the Uber, I should say, and then on the steps outside of Congress as I'm walking up. And I'm sitting there with my chicken scratchings, trying to figure out what the hell did I just write here through some of the presentation? They had to cut me off, I think, Luna, after seven minutes.

• 22:11George Knapp?

  And I know that people got mad at her because I was just getting into some good stuff, but it's not her fault. It's mine because I wrote too much stuff. Luckily, I did get to cover some of the same material later in the Q and A. It was an amazing experience and, and I'm, I'm very proud to have been part of it and that thank you for your help in getting ready for it.

• 22:29Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, man, that was great. It was so funny. I read, um, there was this Ojai magazine and they did this six page spread on the UFO hearings. Cause this journalist was there, you know, with all the big wig, uh, outlets. And I kind of forgot he was there and he, he has this hilarious moment. He's writing about, he's like, and George Knapp says to Jeremy Corbelli, opens the door and goes, oh, I'll just come on down and have a beer with you guys. And I'm like, go do your homework. I remember that, man. You're, you are notorious for being a last minute George Knapp, but, um, you pull it off, man. It, uh, anyway, it was, it was really cool to see you finally, under oath, in Congress. Tell them what you know to the, to the degree you could, you could. That was a really cool moment. I'm glad that it happened.

• 23:13Jeremy Corbell?

  Additionally, at that hearing, there was footage that came out, not from you and me. So this is really cool. This was a UAP, um, being hit by a hellfire missile. And again, this was put out by Congress. It was, it was leaked to them in a dead drop, but we had heard about this footage. We had actually reported that we had heard about this footage and I was almost shocked that somebody else was obtaining and releasing this kind of footage. I was so glad that was weird to see that, right?

• 23:43George Knapp?

  Yeah, and then he doesn't, you know, he doesn't share a lot of details about it. And he hasn't since then, you know, I know that the Congressman Burleson has had a closed-door briefing about that video. There was a considerable amount of speculation, oh, it's just a balloon. Just a balloon that's being shot down by a very expensive Hellfire missile. And then it keeps on going its way. It was a very strange case. I think he put it out in part so that he could get input from other people out there. And I know he's been told, I don't know what the explanation is, but he's been told some additional details that he can't reveal because it was in a classified briefing. Which is sort of a trap that that we've talked about before.

• 24:26George Knapp?

  How some of these intel folks will get you into a classified briefing, tell you things that now you, that maybe you already knew, but now you can't talk about.

• 24:37Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, so they they have said to me, a lot of the Congress people have said to me that they do not attend some of the UFO classified briefings because it is a trap. Because they know if they get in there, they get told information, they're never going to be able to talk about it publicly. So oftentimes, they kind of opt out. I don't know what Representative Burleson was told about that video. But I do know that when I realized the footage that was coming out that night before the hearing, I put him on the phone with with a few Navy people who were aware of that footage and and they could say so because he brought it up. They couldn't believe that footage was coming out. It was kind of mythological footage because it had just kind of happened a couple of years prior.

• 25:20Jeremy Corbell?

  And or not even a couple of years, it just basically happened. And people were astonished by that footage. I'm just glad that some of the footage got out and that Congress was putting it out and they're taking it seriously. Now, somebody didn't testify at the hearing, but they were allowed to testify. They went through the whole process with me, the national security people, with all of Congress. And his name is Daniel Gokorrel. This one really baffled me, George, I got to tell you, because the people we've interviewed, they say we have not made any progress, no significant progress on the reverse engineering of UAP. People that would know, like Dr. Lakatsky, who we'll talk about in a second.

• 26:01Jeremy Corbell?

  But this one was baffling. Daniel Galkarrel. So he comes forward and he came out unweaponized after the hearing because he didn't end up testifying for logistic reasons. But he saw at Eglin Air Force Base, a black 300 foot long triangle, about 20 feet tall. I had three lights, one on each edge and a big one in the middle, a central light. And it hovered silently. It immediately, rapidly disappeared without a sonic boom. Man, it seemed like we were in control of that. So that flipped me a little bit because I was like, I have heard from everybody who would know that we have not had the ability to truly reverse engineer any of the the tech properly. But then

• 26:44Jeremy Corbell?

  you got Daniel Galkarrel, who's who's telling it, telling the truth, what he saw. And he saw something that defied his understanding. What do you think about that? Where do we put that kind of thing?

• 26:55George Knapp?

  I don't know. I mean, here's the question that comes to my mind first is that if something that big, 300 feet on each side, where do you park it? Does it just come in the middle of the night to Eglin? And then where does it go? Why are people seeing it? You know, if it's ours, where do you hide that thing? What base do you do you stick it at? It just doesn't make sense to me that it could be something that we're flying that that remains hidden, something that big. Secondly, if it's something that somebody else is flying, what's it doing there, meeting with folks at Eglin? If it's not ours, whose is it? You know, there's a lot of really interesting questions, but he was a really good witness. So I tend to believe that what he saw is really did exist. It wasn't something made up.

• 27:40Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, there's no way he made that up. I mean, it's a pretty incredible sighting. But with, you know, this idea that we are operating something, you go all the way back to Lazar. Lazar was like, we could go low performance mode, but we couldn't go high performance mode. So this idea that we've reverse engineered anything that is flying amongst the cosmos, and you're bending spacetime and going, you know, to Mars and like, you know, I just, I don't see evidence of that. And everybody we've ever talked with said, we have not been able to truly replicate, not only the fuel source, but the material. Science, so I don't know where to put that triangle sighting other than it reminds me of things like um like Close Encounters where there's some sort of program that we operate

• 28:23Jeremy Corbell?

  with these other beings. That reminds me of something that Dr. Valet said. So on our last interview on Weaponized, Valet just haphazardly throws out, oh yeah, I was exposed to a program about 20 years ago that was communicating, had a very sophisticated, like a technological way to communicate with the others. And that was an incredible statement. Do you remember him saying that?

• 28:47George Knapp?

  I'd never heard that from him before, and I've known Jacques Valet since 1990. And he does sometimes speak in riddles. I think he'll drop a little hint and then won't say much more about it. In much the same way that Dr. Lakatsky, Jim Lakatsky, who was the head of the OSAP program, we interviewed him late in the year, and he does the same thing. By the way, I was inside a craft, and you know, we breached the hull. And no, I'm not going to tell you where we got it, or where it was from, or where it's stashed now. Both of those guys are known to do it. I'd never heard Valet say that we had some kind of a program, what was communicating with non-human intelligence before. We'll have to try to follow that up. You know, I look back on the year, and I think of one thing

• 29:32George Knapp?

  that is troubling to me, and it's the direction of mainstream media. You know, after 2017, all these big players in media world jumped into the UFO topic, had their own UFO investigative teams, we're going to try to break this open. That's kind of gone. I mean, we saw an episode of 60 Minutes early in the year, that really down, I was glad they covered the subject again, but they really downplayed, for example, the 2019 incidents off the West Coast with these 10 Navy warships, when we had offered to help them understand it better, and they turned it down. We talked to Ralph Blumenthal early in the year, who was, we talked about his book on John Mack,

• 30:12George Knapp?

  and also the fact that he had written that story with Leslie Kane in 2017, and it was a big splash. But he tacitly admits that

• 30:22George Knapp?

  The bar has been raised at the New York Times. It would be really hard for them to get anything about this topic published again. At different editors, different standards. You know, we saw the Wall Street Journal this year come out. Absolute BS attack on the topic, on the legitimacy of the topic, on specific cases, on specific people, all through the lens of Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, former head of Arrow, who seemingly still thinks he is the head of Arrow, because anytime this topic comes up, he acts as if he's speaking for that agency and downplays UFO witnesses, UFO cases, UFO evidence. He dismisses it all with the wave of his hand. So that, that trend troubles me.

• 31:04George Knapp?

  The fact that fewer of those big media players are willing to cover the story, those who are, are taking a really harsh negative view of it. Look, criticize it all you want, but if you start out by telling things that are absolutely untrue with a twist that comes from Sean Kirkpatrick as your source, that's, that's, that's troubling going forward.

• 31:26Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, it's, you know, counter-programming and it's really sad, like when you're talking about the 60 Minutes doing that piece about drones, it was absolutely ridiculous. We could, we, we told them we'd help, we put them in touch with, with anybody they, they needed. They decided to be disingenuous. I don't know if it was, you know, basically for clicks or what, or if there was some sort of mandate, but it was, the, the information was wrong. It was, it was fake information. I, I don't know how better to say it. So we'll see in the years to come. I think if we keep pushing and making sure the facts and, and people come forward, for example, Dr. Lukatsky, oh my gosh, in 2024, he admitted that our government is in possession of, of a UFO. I mean, absolutely clear.

• 32:11Jeremy Corbell?

  He said it. He, he, he, he is the top ranking guy that we've heard from. He was the boss of Jay Stratton, as far as I know. He was the boss of Lou Elizondo, depending on how much Lou actually worked with that program. So this is a guy who's at, at the top of, of the heap when it comes to UFO people talking, you know, people from the inside. But this year, he admitted that not only do we have a possession of a UFO, that Kona Blue, which was a program we didn't know even began, he says never ended, which was mercurial for him to say. He admitted that we have a reverse engineering program that, you know, thus breached the hole. But he, on our episode, if you play it back, he admits we have a reverse engineering program.

• 32:55Jeremy Corbell?

  And he also painted a target on Arrow, saying, you know, saying they're doing their job, that it is a counterintelligence operation. Those are big words coming from a guy like him. He also did not deny that he was read in and part of a legacy UFO program before OSAP. And that one really blew me away because when I was talking, he slipped a little thing in under his breath, talking about having a Q clearance, meaning that the DOE, Department of Energy, was somehow housing that legacy UFO program, which he did not deny that he was a part of. And so that was kind of a huge admission in 2025, and people play back the tape.

• 33:38George Knapp?

  People say they want data, they want hard evidence, they want more cases, they give us the hard stuff. I'm not sure they really want that. They want something that's digestible in a tweet or a soundbite or something because Lakatsky has been laying out, together with Dr. Colm Kelleher, facts about the OSAP program, the largest admitted UFO investigation ever funded by the US government for a couple of years now. And, you know, the second book in that series was absolutely full of data, measurable physical effects from UFO cases, and nobody read it. And this latest one, New Insights that he's got, is filled with additional stuff that has never been made public from the OSAP program. Some of it way, way back that they reinvestigated.

• 34:23George Knapp?

  Again, people barely pay attention to it. I don't think people want to read all that much and do their own digging. They like somebody to hand it to them on a silver platter. But there's a lot of information that was shared with us, made public by Dr. Lakatsky for the first time. Those hints about Kona Blue are just part of it. He also, in a separate interview that I did with him for wearing my TV hat.

• 34:46George Knapp?

  Shared information about paranormal events, in particular at Skinwalker Ranch, but not just at Skinwalker Ranch, worldwide. People who get too close to UFOs only have physical effects, diseases and things like that, but then they start experiencing paranormal phenomena, creatures that shouldn't exist. We also talked to David Politis late in the year, who talked about Bigfoot being associated with UFOs, which no one wants to hear. You want to stick your fingers in your ears when something that strange comes up, but you can't deny the cases that have been reported. So, you know, if people really want information, it's out there. You got to take the time to read it. And, you know, Dr. Lakatsky was a big bang for us to sort of end the year with. And then after him came Jacques Vallée,

• 35:31George Knapp?

  which anytime you get any time with Jacques Vallée, that's a good, that's a good day.

• 35:36Jeremy Corbell?

  So, expectations for 2026. I mean, I'm hoping this is the year of creatures. I'm hoping we talk about the pilots of the UAP or UFOs, but a couple of things we know are going to happen. You know, one is Jay Stratton is going to come out more publicly. And this is a guy who ran the UAP TF, right, the task force. He's had his hands in, I think, I think people will find out, he's had his hands in the UFO topic a lot more than we've known up till now. I hope people find that out. But I am excited for Jay Stratton coming forward. I'm also excited for the movie Disclosure Day, which is a new Steven Spielberg movie.

• 36:15Jeremy Corbell?

  It's coming out June 12, 2026. So, there's a few kind of interesting things that should move the needle, separate from the idea that you and I are going to continue our reporting and our releases if we can, and we're close on a number of pieces of footage. If we get to the point where it's ready to go, then we're going to be putting it out. So, I'm excited 2026. Are you excited for anything coming up 2026?

• 36:39George Knapp?

  Well, I am. I've got some things of my own cooking that'll be revealed on Mystery Wire, that platform I had from KLS TV that went away for a couple of years. It's coming back. There's some good stuff coming, some documents that have been long promised but haven't been released yet. I was encouraged by Age of Disclosure. You and I got to see it early on at the South by Southwest. It was very impressive then. I think they made some editorial changes. And it came out and was blockbusters at the end. It really got a lot of attention. I do encourage people to watch that. If you've wondered who Jay Stratton is, man, he comes out of his shell and that. We we got the only other on camera episode or interview with him a couple of years ago.

• 37:20George Knapp?

  And shared it on Weaponized, but he is like a star. He and Lou Elizondo are the stars of that film. Along with thirty two other national security folks. Who say, yeah, this stuff is real and you got to pay attention to it. I thought that was a fairly good counterbalance. To the lack of serious coverage by mainstream media. I hope it inspires these media folks to do their jobs. I mean, they've got these great platforms. Read by millions of readers. And they're not paying attention to one of the most serious issues of our time. So I'm hoping that that that instigates some change there. I thought Richard Dolan's book was a really important book. We talked to him before it was out in public about USOs. And I would imagine we're going to hear a lot more about USO type cases in the coming year.

• 38:04George Knapp?

  You happen to know something about that, I believe.

• 38:07Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, well, we'll see. Yeah, USOs are big, man. I think the footage, I think Richard Dolan has another book that's going to go right up to the the current day. If I remember, it's a series. And, you know, look, if you go back to the USS Omaha footage. That's the best footage other than what you showed in your Netflix show, which was a really wild piece of USO footage in your show. If people haven't watched it, go to Netflix, watch it. But like, there's this USO footage. The the difference with the Omaha is it's military film, so it's in thermal. But I I do believe that in the in the twenty twenty six, there's going to be a few things that kind of come to light.

• 38:48Jeremy Corbell?

  I hope, fingers crossed, more about USOs or underwater UFOs. That's kind of a prediction I'm going to make that. There'll be more of that coming out. I I do also see that there's going to be major official intelligence agency pushback. On the UAP topic to Congress in twenty twenty six. Mark my words, but I I do believe that there's going to be a formal attempt to delegitimize the UAP issue.

• 39:15Jeremy Corbell?

  Within Congress, I don't think they're going to be successful. And I also think in 2026, we might learn more about, you know, the tech bros' interest in the UAP technology. I think that'll be brought to light because as you and I have been tracking over the years, you know, there is a major interest, you know, and a funding interest within government by, you know, what we're joking saying the tech bros, but people interested in getting their hands on the technology. And I think we're going to learn more about that.

• 39:45George Knapp?

  Well, as we've been saying for a number of years, the closer you get to the goodies, the greater the pushback becomes. And I think we're going to see it this year, and you and I know what we're talking about in that regard. And I think that, as you said, Congress is the, is the target. I mean, they're the ones, if they really, they really have the power to, to move the needle, if they get the right information. And there's members that we've, we've interviewed on this program, you know, three members of Congress, which was a pretty amazing accomplishment to pull off, having all three of those House members on the show at the same time. If they can find the right avenues to obtain the material they're seeking, they can move the needle, they can change things, but they are a target.

• 40:27George Knapp?

  They're in the crosshairs right now, and I, I hope they maintain their interest. Whether there'll be another hearing, I don't know. There's some, there's some debate back and forth about whether that's a good idea. I would say it is. Regardless of the witnesses, the fact that they hold a hearing gives it the, the impression, and I think accurately so, that it is important to members of Congress, and it should be important to members of the public.

• 40:52Jeremy Corbell?

  Maybe this will be the year of footage. I think footage is evidence. I think it's so important to go with witness testimony. We're going to have more hearings. I mean, I, I hate having to say that, you know, it's, it's going to be a lot of work, but I, we're going to have more hearings. And I think part of that is bringing the best visual evidence possible to go with the people that are coming forward. So, look, man, 2025 was a real banger for the UFO topic, and I think, you know, for our weaponized audience, I think the, the move here is to push even harder. And look, I enjoy this. I love doing this with you, and I'm learning shit all the time when it comes to the UFO topic, going back into the past and into the current day. But I, I just think that the goal here is in 2026 is to push harder than ever, and hopefully

• 41:37Jeremy Corbell?

  we have as good a year as 2025.

• 41:39George Knapp?

  So you're saying you're hinting that there is UFO footage hidden somewhere? Have you got it? Because I'd like to see all of it right now. Let's drop it. Let's have it.

• 41:47Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, well, let's do it, man.

• 41:50George Knapp?

  All right, yeah, 2025 was a good year. 2026, we hope for more of the same. Happy New Year.

• 41:57George Knapp?

  Well, obviously, it's springtime, you know, when hope springs eternal, when love is in the air, birds and bees are coming out, and when UFO videos filmed by the military suddenly blossom.

• 42:10Speaker 04

  Are any of you willing to name specific gatekeepers within the root cell of the UAP SAP Federation?

• 42:19George Knapp?

  You mean specific people and contractors that have dealt with this and kept it a secret?

• 42:23Speaker 04

  Specific individuals.

• 42:24George Knapp?

  Glenn Gaffney, CIA.

• 42:26Speaker 05

  I think our military, you know, has a long, historic involvement in this. So does our intelligence community and our scientific academic community.

• 42:35Speaker 06

  But I'd be interested in how in the world they got here.

• 42:39Speaker 05

  The secrecy that has been defended is at the cost of, in my mind, human dignity, freedom, and progress.

• 42:47Jeremy Corbell?

  The last UFO or UAP hearing, so I just wanted to hear from each of you. You've heard a lot of testimony now. You've gotten a lot of leads. When you've gone to federal agencies, have you received any pushback or anything where they've stopped you from obtaining information that you've lawfully asked for?

• 43:06Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think that what was so neat about the last hearing is that Burleson had some footage dead dropped to him. Obviously, that was footage that they did not want to show the American people, and they didn't even really want to show Congress. Was a light, I noticed, on the horizon.

• 43:22Speaker 05

  It takes such great courage to come forward, and we acknowledge that, and I hope that you see that we are taking that seriously. And so, very thankful. For what you're doing today. I'm also very thankful for previous witnesses that have come forward. I see Matthew Brown in the audience. He courageously stepped forward and was as a witness. I encourage everybody to look and seek his testimony. It has been allowed to corrupt and infest every aspect of our society to serve the interests and whims of the very elite, select few.