From S. Korea to S. Carolina

South Korean cars and culture; will hydrogen work; the South Carolina Hilton Head Concours; 2026 Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid review; driving a new Lexus TX500h F Sport; and a LOT of Q&A! Recorded November 2, 2025 Patreon questions include: 2026 Porsche Turbo S vs McLaren 750S Is the new Hyundai Santa Fe boxy enough? Did supercharging a V8 M3 ruin it or enhance it? Best cars for lake roads How does Korean car culture compare to Japan? Cars with great weight transfer New Subaru STI concept Is serviceability important when buying a used car? Thoughts on the RAM hybrid with a V6 generator? Funny rally wrap ideas What car feature would we erase from the world? Gator straps: yay or nay? The new Vespa 300 is confusing Replacing a 2013 Audi Q7 TDI BMW X3M vs Porsche Macan GTS vs Ioniq 5N Collector cars you can repair forever And more! Show Notes: Smalls For a limited time get 60% off your first order when you head to https://www.smalls.com/tire Rula Thousands of guys have already used Rula to finally get the care they needed. Don’t keep putting it off - go to https://www. Rula.com/tire and get started today. Take the first step, get connected, and take control of your mental health. Factor Eat smart at https://www. FactorMeals.com/tire50off and use code tire50off to get 50% off your first box, plus Free Breakfast for 1 Year. New merch! Grab a shirt or hoodie and support us! https://thesmokingtireshop.com/ Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! For a 10% discount on your first case go to https://www.offtherecord.com/TST Want your question answered? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

  I can't wait till this airs and you've beeped out four words. People are just can't wait, can't wait to, to hear what you have to say about the dynamics of this hydrogen thing. What's up everybody? Welcome to the Smoking Tire Podcast. Today's episode is brought to you by Off the Record and I am gonna need it probably because as you're listening to this, I am on the road and track Blue Ridge 500. I'm driving a Porsche 918 Spyder. I'll tell you all about it when I get back, but if I get busted speeding and I'm running countermeasures, I've got my Valentine going, I've got Waze going, I am as covered as I

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• 2:11Matt Farah?

  killer questions from our patrons today. It's a good one from the Smoking Tire Podcast, live from South Carolina and LA. Let's go. Well, holla, holla, holla, holla, Smoking Tire Podcast Remote Edition. I'm down here in South Carolina today doing, I was at the Hilton Head concourse. Zach was in South Korea for six days and is now back. We haven't been in the same room together for like 10 days now. And so in order for y'alls to get y'alls podcasts, we gotta go remote. And I'm like, I'm like in the real middle of nowhere out here.

• 2:56Matt Farah?

  So the internet sort of sucks. We use it doing the best we can. But welcome to the show and advance, thank you to all of our patrons for asking such good questions all the time. And we got a lot of feedback about the possible new color of the Canyon watch. A couple, a couple of people didn't like it so much, but overwhelmingly positive excitement and, and people wanting to get in on it, reserve their numbers. So I think, I think we're doing the right thing. Zach Klapman.

• 3:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. What's up?

• 3:35Matt Farah?

  Talk to me about your trip to South Korea.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, it was pretty incredible. I was there for six days, thanks to Hyundai. And it was a, there was a lot, you know, I was on the ground for five days and there was kind of five days of stuff. So I was there to drive two cars. One is the new version of the Hyundai Nexo, which I famously drove to Norcal and got stuck on the five when the station there ran out of hydrogen. So this is the new version of that car. And I don't know, do they have?

• 4:13Matt Farah?

  Uh.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  Let me see.

• 4:16Matt Farah?

  And, but that's, is it embargoed is what you said?

• 4:19Speaker 01

  Driving, yeah, driving impressions are embargoed. I was gonna just pull up the picture of it because, you know, I want to show you the profile view and tell me what you think of the, the rear profile of this car. You go to share screen here.

• 4:34Matt Farah?

  Okay. Nexo would be a hydrogen car. So there is a, there, I mean, just the mere existence of a second generation of a hydrogen car is kind of unique and interesting.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, and we could definitely, we can definitely talk about that because Hyundai's investment, both time, resources and money into hydrogen is vast. I mean, first of all, Hyundai owns South Korea. Like, I, I rode on a Hyundai train, a Hyundai elevator, cars, the buildings are everywhere, of course. I'd say 70% of the cars you see on the road are Hyundai. Then there's Kia's and then somehow I saw two Mustangs. One was a fake Shelby. That was pretty surprising. Even in the distance, we were at this racetrack and in the distance were these giant, massive orange cranes, like two mountains over, looming

• 5:30Speaker 01

  over the landscape, like, you know, an AT-AT in Star Wars. And it, it was a crane they used to build ships and it said Hyundai in size 80 foot font. I was like, they're everywhere. This company is always watching and they are everywhere. So, so their, their investment in hydrogen, we got to go to their R and D facility and they kind of explained their vision. You know, it's, they, I think they want to be a little energy independent eventually. And it's also a little self-serving. Like, they've, they've put a lot of money into developing the production of hydrogen, the capture of it, the storage of it, and the vehicles.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  So if people or industries start choosing hydrogen, you know, they're very well positioned. But

• 6:17Matt Farah?

  Do, yeah. Do they have any intention of like, building their own hydrogen stations in, around?

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Well, they have, so they have hydrogen production, like, plants. I don't know if they would build, like, gas stations for hydrogen, or if they would just sell the hydrogen to

• 6:39Matt Farah?

  To whatever shell or whatever.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  Whatever. That's a good ques- like, we saw, we saw fueling stations around and I don't think they had Hyundai branding on them. One huge difference, and I didn't mean that as a pun, but it is one, is The hydrogen pump that they did a demo at, I saw a picture of it, I wasn't at that demonstration. The pump system was like the size of WCCS Playavista. It was a single pump in front of a literal building the size of your three, four-story car's warehouse. And the reason that's important is because when I ran out of hydrogen, what I learned from the hydrogen delivery guy is that the way the systems work

• 7:25Speaker 01

  is that on the property, there will be a large tank where they store hydrogen. There's a middle tank that fills and pressurizes, and then that dumps into your car. And the way it gets into your car is it has to equalize the pressure. So you've got, you know, you've got one balloon that's full, and you've got a balloon that's empty. The balloon that's full is going to add air to the empty one until they're equal. And one of the problems that I encountered is that that middle pump takes a long time to fill. So I think they have this giant building-sized hydrogen pump now to avoid those problems because they're able to fill cars back-to-back with no delay. So that's what it takes.

• 8:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, they must...

• 8:05Matt Farah?

  This is incredibly efficient, obviously. I mean, I guess if it takes, you know, a building with the footprint of a big gas station with one pump in order to keep that production line flowing,

• 8:25Matt Farah?

  that's kind of interesting, okay?

• 8:27Speaker 01

  It's just the way the system works, but you know, I think it will require more real estate above ground possibly. I'm sure there's other ways to do it, whereas, you know, our gas stations, all the fuel tanks are below ground, and then they get pumped up out of the little thing, and it goes in the car. So it's just one of the challenges. But I mean, Hyundai is just, they're really trying to make hydrogen work. And they're not trying to push it on everything. They're just like, we made this technology. It works for some commercial trucks. It works for some shipping ports right now. Maybe it'll work for other vehicles.

• 9:00Matt Farah?

  Hydrogen Brian, my hydrogen liaison in my neighborhood and bourbon enthusiast, is 100% in on hydrogen at the ports. The short haul trucks that just run back and forth, you know, 10, 15 miles a day. The forklifts, the cranes, like all that shit. He is like, he's all about that. He doesn't care about passenger cars at all. He said, "You could, you could clean the ports globally, you know, virtually overnight by running all this stuff on hydrogen."

• 9:37Speaker 01

  That's what made the most sense to me. I mean, I watched, I watched their presentation with heavy skepticism because of my experience with it. And also just knowing, you know, the infrastructure that has to be built for passenger cars that does not exist here. And, you know, the infrastructure failures is a big reason why Toyota is currently being sued by a lot of Mirai owners. So I think, you know, to ask the United States to pop up all these hydrogen stations for consumer, for passenger cars, that's just too much resistance. But if you have a port and like you said, all of these heavy equipment, light equipment run on this. The advantage is that when the forklift runs out of hydrogen, you could just go fill it up.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  Whereas a lot of people were trying to promote electricity as the source of power for like new airport tugs. And it makes sense, like you need a lot of torque, you need, and you know, it can just sit there and then go into service and come out. But when you have to recharge, you know, that thing, if it's an airport that runs 20 hours a day, well, now you've got to think of that charging. And if someone doesn't plug it in, is the airport have to stop working? So stuff like that where it's heavy equipment that would require really big batteries and long charging times, it might not be optimal.

• 10:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 10:54Speaker 01

  But having this closed circuit system.

• 10:56Matt Farah?

  Doesn't go very far.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, yeah. But this is basically.

• 11:00Matt Farah?

  And that you could, if you have an airport, you could put that giant building hydrogen station somewhere on property.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Exactly. Yeah.

• 11:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  So, so that, that side of it made a lot more sense to me. Can you see these pictures of the Nexo?

• 11:13Matt Farah?

  I can, yeah.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  All right. So what do you, what do you?

• 11:16Matt Farah?

  It looks like.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  See when you look at this area?

• 11:18Matt Farah?

  Aztec. Looks like an Aztec.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  I walked up to it and like the front, this looks like old Chevy S10. I went, alright, that's kinda cool. It's similar to their 74 concept. And I walked around the back and I just went, "Aztec." And the other journalist there next to me was like, "Oh dude."

• 11:37Matt Farah?

  You can't unsee it, dude.

• 11:39Speaker 01

  You can't unsee it. They've got it on a couple of things. Um, I don't know, the rear end of this car is interesting.

• 11:44Matt Farah?

  The 90-degree side profile is the most Aztec. You showed a few different angles. The other angles are better.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, it's just this, this rear quarter window that is, uh, straight up Aztec. Um, I don't know. Otherwise, it's just like, uh...

• 12:00Matt Farah?

  Don't break the embargo, dude. Or is that not the embargo?

• 12:03Speaker 01

  I don't know. That's not a driving impression, but you're right. I'll back away from that. So...

• 12:07Matt Farah?

  You called it... That's an impression.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 12:12Matt Farah?

  You could've said that while sitting in there, parked. It's got spacious. You meant spacious.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  I did.

• 12:17Matt Farah?

  Obviously, you meant spacious. I can't wait till this airs and you've beeped out four words. People are... Just can't wait. Can't wait to hear what you have to say about the dynamics of this hydrogen thing that looks like Aztec.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Some of the people at the company were very, uh, they had pretty narrow views of what, um, would break the embargo. So someone had posted some stories of just what they were doing, like just being there. And they had to delete those stories, but, you know, they're cautious. It's okay.

• 12:52Matt Farah?

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• 17:17Speaker 01

  It was fascinating, and I mean that as a compliment.

• 17:25Speaker 01

  Like, it didn't have the visual, you know, natural allure of like Thailand. Like, you know, they had forests, but it wasn't super lush. But there weren't like jagged mountains or anything. It was just kind of like lower altitude coastal stuff. So it was, but it was fascinating. It is the safest place I think I've ever been. Meaning the culture's attention to safety, I've never seen before. There was a speed camera on every highway about every two miles. Like, I drove, I drove 358 miles of the country, like from top to bottom and back up. And it was like-

• 18:05Matt Farah?

  At the speed limit?

• 18:07Speaker 01

  Yes, dude, at the speed limit. And everyone goes the speed limit. And it wasn't, it wasn't like there were speed, there were speed cameras just near the city and you get out and they dissipate. Like, they were there. And, and what's so funny is the number of warnings of an approaching speed limit, or an approaching speed camera. So there's so many, like, there's blue and red flashing lights everywhere to look like cops that aren't cops. There are really funny police, like, visages that they put in the bushes. So basically, as you approach, it looks like the back of a cop car. If the cop car had crashed into a tree. And it's, it's-

• 18:44Matt Farah?

  But they don't actually use cop cars, they use cameras.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Correct, correct. I did, I never, ever, ever saw a police car sitting on the side of the road shooting radar. I saw three police cars total and they were headed to something. So, and what sucks is like, the first, the first five hours of that drive, I saw those, those outlines, uh, those, you know, visage things and I went, oh, that's so silly. And then by hour seven, one of them tricked me and I slowed down.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  But, uh, but I talked to, uh- One of the execs of Hyundai, this guy June Park, who basically, he's the reason that the N-division exists.

• 19:20Matt Farah?

  Oh, I met, I met June. Yeah, June's cool. Yeah, June was rad. He was at the 5N launch. Yeah, yeah, that guy rules, yeah.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  He, uh, he knows how to have a great time, like, in a car. And, uh, like, he's, he's like one of us who somehow just runs a division. He said that half the cameras are fake.

• 19:40Speaker 01

  But he didn't, he didn't tell me that until I'd already driven down there.

• 19:42Matt Farah?

  So it's like America?

• 19:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. It's there's

• 19:47Matt Farah?

  We're more the same than you know.

• 19:50Speaker 01

  For sure, but like they, no one jaywalks there. All the crosswalks are super lit up. There's just so much attention on safety, safety, safety. Be careful, careful, careful. So that was a very interesting part of it. Place to hang out, like, you know, I don't want to insult people that live there. Like, everyone was incredibly nice, super friendly and helpful. I don't know if I would make it a destination like you have to. It's not like Japan to me where it's like you have to go there. I think if you're in the area, like literally stop in for a couple of days, walk around, eat some food, because it's great to see, you know, how other cultures live. What, what is this like, you know? Because there were strange differences, like their apartment buildings.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  So they have 55 million people in this country and the place is like the size of California. So where do you house all those people? Well, strangely, they don't really have, yeah, dude, up. But what's weird is you would see these groupings of apartment buildings that all look exactly the same. And they're all like four windows by two windows. So they're not wide, they're narrow, but they'd be 30 stories tall. And rather than having, you know, a development where there's, there's 30 apartments in a row on each side, they would have like four of them. And I think they just, they build one and then when they need another one, they build another one and another one. And it's all the same construction company, architect exactly the same. Like, it was like asparagus growing out of the, out of the earth.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  It was really just, I've never seen, been to a city where there was that much uniformity in such tall buildings.

• 21:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I think like a lot of them, like, I think it's not, it's probably much more modern and, and nice, but like Americans don't love that style because it's like, it's got that sort of like USSR kind of like, like the bad parts of socialism vibe. You know, that sort of brutalist where they would build entire towns, kind of the same. Well, there were I don't think you're talking like that. I don't think that's

• 21:54Speaker 01

  We saw some of those buildings that seemed older. These seem newer. It was just strange to see like a group of them where like, you know, you go to New York, there's a lot of tall buildings, but they all look different for

• 22:06Matt Farah?

  Different, yeah, yeah.

• 22:07Speaker 01

  Different, there's just like Even if there's eight different varieties, this was literally the same building over and over. Like, and it would be eight deep and 30 across. So you look at this, you go, well, that's, that's housing for a million people.

• 22:23Speaker 01

  Dude, the groupings of buildings was insane. And then you drive for the next 50 miles, it's just like open, beautiful green landscape, occasional farms. So no suburb, no other little town development. And then boom, another city in the distance, just, just white buildings, like as far as you could see.

• 22:42Matt Farah?

  That's crazy. And I, yeah, go on, sorry.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  No, no, go ahead.

• 22:47Matt Farah?

  I just like, so the buildings are skinny, right? So there's only like going to be a couple of apartments per floor, but they just go way, way up. Yeah, that's crazy.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  So I don't, I don't know if it's because, you know, the landscape there is, is not flat. It's like constantly, it's like New Zealand, you know, it's a lot of little ups and downs, little hills. So my guess was rather than having to flatten, you know, the earth for like five football fields, you do a half a football field, you know, on the, on the top of this little hill and you build a thing. And then the bottom, you do another one, the bottom, you do another, like you just, I don't know. Just maybe it's simpler that way, or they just build it with demand, but really weird.

• 23:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  Some people asked about car culture and I saw zero, sorry. I saw two like interesting cars during the daytime in the two cities I went to. I saw one Boxster and I saw the fake Shelby Mustang. It was a GT, but with like a Shelby badge on the front. Otherwise, everyone just drove passenger, whatever hatchbacks. And I asked June, I said, you know, is there just not a lot of car culture here? And he just said that the culture's idea is you drive your fun thing on the weekend. So maybe that's why I just didn't see any fun cars. People just don't, like here, you know, a lot of you, me, a lot of our friends, they, our daily is something interesting.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  But there it's just not part of the culture. So I don't know. When you were in Japan, did you see a lot of, you know, rad tuned stuff all the time?

• 24:22Matt Farah?

  Not like rad tuned stuff, but I did see interesting cars more than in other places. I saw some classic stuff. I saw some Porsches. I saw a couple of tuner type cars. I did see some interesting customized things, yeah, in Japan, more so than other places. Every time I go to Spain, which is now a lot, you know, I'm shocked at how great the roads are and how many good racetracks there are as well. And there's fucking no sports cars and very few motorcycles. And it's not because nobody has any money.

• 25:06Matt Farah?

  I know it's on a countrywide, Spain isn't a super rich country and there are a lot of people that can't afford recreational type cars. But like the parts of town where like they have these events are nicer. You know, I'm there doing, I'm sitting at the bar, I'm looking on Zillow and it's like multimillion euro like villas, like these people could afford cars. And they just don't. I saw last time, other than the nine elevens was there, I saw one other nine eleven that was like a nine nine seven and I saw one Miata and that was it. And that was it for the whole trip.

• 25:47Matt Farah?

  So, you know, I'm regularly surprised at the, particularly in major, major American metro areas, New York, San Francisco, Miami, LA. The percentage of enthusiast cars is way, way, way, way, way above anywhere else in the world I've been on a day to day basis.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's just, that was, that was a difference that leapt out to me and I was curious about how it is, you know, in other places, so.

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• 28:45Matt Farah?

  People customize their cars, you know, in a lot of the more rural areas and in like Cabo and shit. They they do a lot of like what we would call Autozone mods. But like, that's every like, so many people have modded their cars.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  That's very true.

• 29:02Matt Farah?

  In Mexico. Yeah.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  And a lot of.

• 29:04Matt Farah?

  Percent, yeah.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  Like Latin people here, you'll go to the neighborhoods over in, you know, eastern LA and you'll see what's clearly like someone's daily truck. But it's got a wing on it or it's got like aggressive rims on it and they're and they're hauling hauling stuff or whatever. I I totally agree with you.

• 29:20Matt Farah?

  Mm hmm, mm hmm.

• 29:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah. The Mexican and Mexican-American community by percentage. Fucking those guys don't fuck around. They'll mod, they'll mod everything, dude.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't, I guess they just, there's a lot of individuality in your car, I guess, from that culture, at least from our observations. Um, so maybe there's less of it in, uh, in South Korea.

• 29:42Matt Farah?

  Um, yeah.

• 29:43Speaker 01

  I I took a high speed train, hundred fifty miles per hour, loved it.

• 29:47Matt Farah?

  Those are fun.

• 29:47Speaker 01

  Had those here. Oh, my God, it's just, it it had more, my seat, which was not first class or anything, because it was not an air-conditioned cabin. I learned later that the further up the train you go, based on the ticket you buy, the train gets cooler. And, uh, so our, none of us knew that, but we're like, oh, this is warm and we're gonna be here for three hours. Uh, but my seat had more room than any comfort plus seat I've sat in on a plane. And the tray table had way more space than any comfort plus seat I've been on on any airplane in the last fifteen years. And I was like, this ticket was less and we're going, we're traveling the length of California. I mean, it took, yes, it took longer. We're going, you know, one fifty, not five hundred, but it's just so nice. What a nice.

• 30:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and you can, you show up ten minutes before the thing leaves. It's not, it's not as much of a pain in the ass. Yeah. And you're like, you know, a train is.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  Before it left, yeah.

• 30:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah, a train like feels like a plane, but it's actually much less space and weight constrained than a plane. So you can have more room even in the more basic accommodations.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  The, uh, like, the event staff that Hyundai hired to run this, I'll tell one, one story, because it was just impressive. So, one of the journalists, uh, shout out Alex Lenz, he, he works for Motor Trend, very nice dude, but he's vegetarian. And that's not something South Korea really does a lot of, is vegetarian food. Like, vegetables, everyone eats a lot of kimchi, I love it, it was great, but like, I got a side of asparagus with a steak at one night, and they gave me two spears of asparagus. Not 10, or whatever. So, uh, so for him to find vegetarian meals at non-vegetarian restaurants was pretty challenging at times. So, well, after one meal, he had eaten like, a simple Caesar salad, and that's all they had. And, and the,

• 31:39Speaker 01

  and the staff and everyone tried, like, they told the restaurant, "Do you have anything?" And they, they did what they could. But he's like, "I'm just starving." And we have six minutes before we have to be on a bus to go to a train that leaves, you know, a train leaves when it's leaving, they don't hold that thing. And he's just like, "All right, I'll just, I'll find something to eat when we get back to, uh, to the city." And, three minutes later, um, this woman from the staff, who I don't, I didn't get her name, she comes in, breathing like, and she's got a 7-Eleven receipt and two packages of baked eggs, because they sell that at 7-Eleven there. And she had, she had sprinted and bought him eggs, so that he could have something to eat. And she, and I was like, "Did you just, full run, to get this?" She's

• 32:21Speaker 01

  like, "Yeah." I was like, "That's..." I worked in hospitality for nine years, that's like, the nicest thing I've seen. Um, yeah. She was very, very kind. So, and he was very grateful.

• 32:31Matt Farah?

  That is a good move. Shout out to the event coordinators.

• 32:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:36Matt Farah?

  Cool.

• 32:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:37Matt Farah?

  All right, so, and then you also drove Ioniq 6N, but we can't talk about it for weeks, right?

• 32:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, we can't. I, I, I had, the teaser I'll say to people, as I got to Drag Race June Park, um, you know, we had a meeting, we had a meeting to talk about like, the development of the car, and I asked, "Is the car just as fast, uh, to 60 in normal mode, as in, when you have it in shifting mode?" And he said, "Yes." And I said, "Oh, we should have a drag race, just to prove it." And he goes, "Okay." And I said, "For real?" He's like, "Yeah, okay." So, at 5:00 PM, when everyone else got off the track, he and I, uh, did some drag races, and just so we can talk about that later. It was very, very fun. Yeah.

• 33:18Matt Farah?

  Cool. Uh, well, that sounds like a good time. And I will be looking forward to that when I can learn about it. Uh, I've had, uh, five, four days in a Panamera Turbo S E Hybrid. Uh, drove it, uh, 273 miles out to my folks' place from Atlanta. This is, if you, I mean, man, it's, it's expensive. It's really expensive, but if you need a car that can do anything. I mean, zero to 60 in two and a half seconds, 10.3 in the quarter, 630 plus miles on a tank.

• 34:02Matt Farah?

  Um, this, this car has the, uh, internal combustion sedan record around the nerve, uh, around Road Atlanta with Pat Long driving. And it has the hydraulic suspension, the active ride. So it's just ridiculously comfortable and, and, and poised. And we've driven it before, but just, uh, I got out here. I picked this thing up. I, you know, I, I woke up at like 4:00 AM in L.A., flew to Atlanta, grabbed the car, you know, it was like a four and a half hour flight. Grabbed the car, got it and just headed straight east. And I made it. And I mean, once I got out of town, there was like nobody on the road.

• 34:42Matt Farah?

  And you could just stick this thing at allegedly 100 miles an hour at like it is nothing. Just nothing at all. It is the easiest car I have ever driven at the, at that speed. Um, and I got, I did the whole drive. I did 273 miles in under four hours and I averaged 26 miles a gallon while doing it, which is amazing for a car like that, for a car that makes like 800 horsepower. Um, so that's pretty awesome. And tomorrow morning, it's at, uh, at 5 a.m. I'm gonna get up and like rip it back to Atlanta,

• 35:26Matt Farah?

  uh, where I'm swapping it out for a, for a 918, which will be, uh, interesting, but, dude, these, this car is so cool and, um, it, it's so comfortable and it's so fast. And it could be anything. It's got like 50 miles of electric range. If you want it to be an electric car. It has a very aggressive sport plus mode. If you want it to feel like, kinda like a supercar. Uh, it has the active tilt and pitch controls, so it can move through the world like a helicopter. Um, on slow winding, uh, ambling drives, which is really great. Um, and, and it, it has

• 36:10Matt Farah?

  a lot of tech, but it doesn't, uh, really overwhelm you, uh, with the tech. But it's, man, this is, this one's a real winner, this car. I know it's expensive. I, I can't afford one of these, but it's sick.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Uh, well, I was on, um, let me close this window. Go back to here. So I was on the Renthusiast Radio Podcast and they asked why, uh, you know, they're heavy into Porsches, but Panameras seem to lose their value quicker, or maybe just not get talked about on the used market as much as like M5 or 5 Series or C63s. Um, do you think that's true? And do you have a theory as to why, like, a used Panamera is not, you know, as sought after as some of the other, uh, competitors?

• 36:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I think because it's positioned as more of a luxury car than a sports car in the marketplace. It's, it's not positioned as a sports sedan the same way an M5 is. In people's minds, in reality, I'll take, if the M5 touring is really nice, if you've never driven a Panamera Turbo. And if you have, it's like not in the same league of car. Um, yeah, I, so, and I, I think, I think Panameras always have leading technology and stuff and, and there's just not as many people.

• 37:36Matt Farah?

  Looking for a, I mean, I think Panameras are positioned more in the same way as S classes in seven series than they are five series, even though they perform more like the M5 than they do like anything that's a seven series or an S class, you know?

• 37:51Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 37:53Matt Farah?

  Um, but there's an enormous value in used Panameras, enormous value.

• 38:00Matt Farah?

  They're reasonably reliable, they don't have any like super horror stories. They're frequently, you know, you can get them just built out to the, to the nines.

• 38:13Matt Farah?

  You know, we just sold a really nice Panamera, uh, belonged to a client of ours, a 2011, I think, Panamera Turbo in, in an unbelievable color and it had miles on it, but had great service history. I think it was, I think we got 25 grand for it. I mean, it was like, you know, if you want to spend, uh, you know, 50 or $60,000, you're getting a not that old Turbo S that is in good shape and rips.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, they drive fantastic. There's so, there's such good things to drive. I'm just, yeah, I was just wondering what your take was. Okay.

• 38:52Matt Farah?

  I love these cars. I mean, I, I, I think these cars are fabulous and, and they, uh, I, I love my EV for me personally buying, like, I don't need the gas engine. So I personally, I don't need the gas engine, but a lot of people, I mean, this is a, this is a car that just does, it could do anything. It can be an EV almost every day. Almost, you know, you, you plug it in overnight, level two, even level one, and it's, and it's an EV 90% of the time. And then you gotta go from one city to another in the middle of the night and you got your own private freight train and you're just, you know? It's, it's amazing.

• 39:35Matt Farah?

  And it's invisible on, I mean, this oak green color. I mean, every once in a while, you know, someone who knows, uh, but, but for the most part, this is not a car people are looking at or think is a, is a 700 plus horsepower car that's gonna be, you know, running 10 second quarter miles.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true.

• 39:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 39:59Speaker 01

  I'm just looking at the interior, brown interior, it's cool.

• 40:01Matt Farah?

  Brown, yeah, oak green metallic over a chocolate interior. This is, this is a pretty cool spec on this one. I would go with a tan if I could get it, but, but the, the chocolate's nice. I like the chocolate. This is, this one's a, this is a good car. I mean, I just, it's a bummer they're so expensive, but just wait. It'll come to you.

• 40:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, um, I, I really, really do like it, but, and I'm out here, um, in, uh, in Spring Island, uh, my, my folks place, uh, cause we went to the Hilton Head concourse today and I put some photos on the, on the Instagram. The win, uh, the win concourse is also happening today in Vegas, but I wanted to come out here cause I got a gig, starts tomorrow in Atlanta and I figured, check it out. Uh, really nice. It's a, it's sort of a regional event, um, but over, uh, a couple of hundred cars, a few thousand people, probably 20 different classes of a vehicle.

• 41:06Matt Farah?

  I saw some, uh, really, really great examples of, um, hyper cars and super cars. I saw some really great example of wild thirties French stuff. There was a whole section on boat tail cars. There was a whole section of, uh, celebrating, uh, a hundred years of Chrysler. There was, uh, they actually had a whole section of like vintage, uh, speedboats on display, which I thought was very cool. And, uh, a really well organized, uh, event, a lot of fun. Saw some fans, said hi to some folks. Yeah, there's the speedboat section, which I thought was really fun. And, uh, it was a fabulous day and, you know, not, uh,

• 41:52Matt Farah?

  It wasn't like, it's not Pebble, right? But there were, there were definitely a few Pebble Beach grade cars. And it's on a golf course and very accessible on Hilton Head. I really liked that. That's a vintage outboard engine. I thought was just so pretty. A bunch of, a whole Fintail Cadillac El Dorado section, which is really cool. And the, yeah, it was great. Really, really nice show. They, they put on a really good show. This, this is a SP3 Daytona, one of the newer ones. And had a red to black color shifting paint job.

• 42:37Matt Farah?

  The window sticker, which you can kind of see in the windshield there, it's yellow. Showed that that paint job was $42,000. And it also listed 129,000 in miscellaneous other options.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  Is it, it seems, I feel like putting your window sticker with the prices of things.

• 43:00Matt Farah?

  It's so douchey.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  It's very douchey, like, because Corvette people do it. And but, but Corvettes, they won't put the price. They'll just put, here are the specs. Like, here's what this car contains. Here's the model. But having the price point in there, especially when it's a car that's this expensive, is like, I don't know, how, how much attention do you need to your wealth to be like, by the way, not only do I have this car that we all know costs a lot of money. Here's exactly how much money it costs. Wow.

• 43:27Matt Farah?

  So the only possible explanation is that that may have been part of a sponsor display that was a dealer, maybe? There was, right in that area, there were a couple of sponsor displays that were like, you know, European Car Source or so, I made that up. But like, you know, some secondhand European car specialist. Next to it is a 996 GT3 RS there in white. It may have been a car that was possibly being offered for sale. But yeah, I, I agree. If that's a personally owned car, I would say that's pretty douchey.

• 44:11Speaker 01

  What is, uh, this little guy, what is this thing?

• 44:14Matt Farah?

  So this is some kind of Lotus sports racer from like the, you know, early 60s.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 44:22Matt Farah?

  It's got this sort of aerodynamic fin tail, you know, body on it that was probably just someone went, drew it on a napkin and went, "That looks aerodynamic." Just make it like that.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  It looks like they said, "Well, fish look like this and fish move through water and we move through." So let's put two fish with a white bridge in between.

• 44:44Matt Farah?

  Yes, it is. It's a, it's a, it's a catamaran made of two fish. It's exactly what this car is, yeah. Yeah. Uh, there was some, there, that kind of stuff, that reminds me of the like, the La Monstra. You ever see the La Monstra Cadillac?

• 45:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:02Matt Farah?

  That was like, looked like it was made out of someone's fucking repurposed refrigerator or something, you know?

• 45:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a, I think Johnny Smith got to drive it. It, I mean, it looks like a monster. It is an ugly vehicle.

• 45:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's heinous. Yeah. But I, you know, I, I, I really liked this. This is a motorcycle display, like a 19, you know, 15 or something motorcycle where there's basically no engine block. It's just like an exposed crankshaft and four pistons welded together.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  Holy shit. It, so yeah, it's got like, I guess the crank is in here or is that a?

• 45:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. The, like, I think that is the crank. Or that's, that's a crank housing, but there isn't like an engine block. There's just like four standalone cylinders just this there in between a, a two-part frame. Very funky.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  You know what it looks like? It looks like you poured concrete into an engine block and then wherever, like, and it followed the oil and the water channels and then you took away all the metal.

• 46:05Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 46:06Speaker 01

  Like this, it's, it's like a skeleton.

• 46:08Matt Farah?

  It's the negative space of an engine block, of a normal engine block, right? Yeah, crazy, right?

• 46:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:18Matt Farah?

  Uh, so that's, that's fun. This was a good show. If anyone's in, in the, in the southeast, the first weekend in November, that's a good show. That's, that's worth, uh, worth your time. And obviously it's on Hilton Head, so there's plenty of places to stay and chill and eat and, you know, whatever. Shall we go to the people, Zach?

• 46:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's do that.

• 46:42Matt Farah?

  Of course, if you are a patron, you can catch the livestream and ask us questions. Are we live, by the way? No, right?

• 46:51Speaker 01

  Not for these.

• 46:52Matt Farah?

  Sorry, because we're remote. Yeah, because the qualitae would be poo poo. You can catch the livestream. You can ask us questions. You can get the show without ads. You can get the show early. You can get extra show. And you can get exclusive access to any merch, collabs, and things that we make over here. Zach, what do we got?

• 47:14Speaker 01

  All right, Rev Limit asks, "What are your thoughts after driving the new Turbo S on the 750S versus the Turbo as a track car and a high-horsepower road car option?

• 47:27Speaker 01

  So would you rather have a 750S or a Turbo S?

• 47:30Matt Farah?

  750S is crazy. The Turbo S is not crazy. 750S, if you turn the traction control off, will spin the tires into fourth gear. A Turbo S will not do that.

• 47:45Matt Farah?

  So if what you want is extreme competence, extreme competence, but sort of a clinical approach, and something that can be a very, very relaxed, everyday, daily driver, Turbo S. If you want crazy party time, you want a 750.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  Excellent.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  Zach in Sodak says, "Is the new Hyundai Santa Fe 2025 and up boxy enough for Hannah?"

• 48:20Matt Farah?

  No. It's, she doesn't like it. She thinks, she says the taillights look like dog bones, which she ain't wrong.

• 48:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, she's not into that. What she is into is the Rivian R3X. Very into that. She's into the idea of maybe getting a heavily depreciated electric G-Wagon in a couple of years, uh, because she likes the Taycan but doesn't like love it. Like she likes it, but it doesn't, she says it doesn't feel like her, which I get. It's, that's a more me car than a her car, even though it's her car. But she was, she's eyeing the depreciation on electric G-Wagons, which I think will be significant.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, like a bag of sugar thrown in water. It's just like, oh, losing, losing everything.

• 49:16Matt Farah?

  You know what, Zach Klapman? Will you please hold the phone because I need more whiskey.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 49:23Matt Farah?

  It's my goddamn house and I'm gonna drink McAllen if I want to.

• 49:27Speaker 01

  That's fine. This question's actually for me, so I will just answer it. Um, listen and sometimes watch, says Zach. You drove a red supercharged E92 M3 three years ago. From what you remember, did it totally change the experience or just add more of what makes it already great? Uh, I think it was an E90 sedan. And, uh, yeah, it just, superchargers to me maintain quite a lot of the engine's natural, uh, feel and experience, but it just turns everything up a bit. So it still had the throttle response. It still had, you know, the torque, but it had

• 50:02Matt Farah?

  Really getting a, uh,

• 50:03Speaker 01

  200 more horsepower.

• 50:04Matt Farah?

  Sunset on the bayou, huh?

• 50:07Speaker 01

  Oh, the question was for me anyway, so I just answered it. It's about,

• 50:10Matt Farah?

  Oh, cool.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  about the supercharged M3 I drove a few years ago. But I think, superchargers just, you know, get, take whatever elements there are to a car and they just turn it up. They don't really change the character of the power delivery.

• 50:23Matt Farah?

  I agree. Having heard none of the rest of that, I agree with the last sentence.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  Uh, all right. Uh, the ghost of Woolworths says, uh, I live, I live close to Lake Barriessa and I'm looking for a fun new vehicle. Matt, you've driven those roads for your road and track event. Would you say a GR Corolla or a used, uh, F87 M2? Which would be the better choice?

• 50:47Matt Farah?

  Ah, I mean better. Ah, you know, Lake Barriessa and that area. Ah, for those who don't know, that's in Northern California, wine country. It's in the Napa-Sonoma area. Fabulous roads, ah, can be a little bumpy. Ah, that whole area, um, in the Napa and Sonoma region is tight technical driving. It's not big, fast, open sweepers. I don't think the power of the M2 would be very useful there. But I think the rally vibe and small footprint of the Corolla would be a good time. Ah, that road there, the 128 is the shit.

• 51:30Matt Farah?

  So you want to fuck with that road right there. And then you can also go, um.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  Oh, is it?

• 51:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah, a little street view. So you can see the tarmac is good, but not amazing. Um, that's one of the better sections, actually. But, um, yeah, I think you want a little suspension travel, a little ride quality. And so I would say, ah, the Corolla, right?

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Um, all right, Gavin Sullivan says, "We've often talked about weight transfer being something we enjoy in a car. Which hot hatch or fast sedan has the best feeling of weight transfer?"

• 52:10Matt Farah?

  Hmm, Fiesta ST killed it back in the day. Killed it at that. It was unbelievable.

• 52:18Speaker 01

  I think Veloster N also was a really fun thing and had, uh, you know, you could sense where the G-forces were moving the mass around.

• 52:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah, um, the Golf R, the current Golf R is very good, uh, at that.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  Um. What's funny is that the softer the springs, the more of the weight transfer you notice.

• 52:41Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 52:43Matt Farah?

  I mean, like my fa- like my fav- my weight transfer champions are like the Storato. You know, like, like, or, you know, uh, or the fucking Roof Rodeo. Which, uh, the video will be coming out very soon. I'm sorry we've been sitting on that for fucking two months. Embargos kept coming up, but like the, like trophy trucks, off-road vehicles, Raptors, like 911 Dakar, like the, the side-by-sides, like, all that shit is, that's the weight transfer champs, that stuff.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely. Um, Buick La Sabre Tooth Tiger, love it, love that name, says, uh, what are our thoughts? Thoughts on the new Subaru STI concept that, uh, went up this week?

• 53:25Matt Farah?

  Uh, well, I mean, aesthetically, I don't hate it. Uh, aesthetically, it looks like sort of halfway between a, a BRZ and a, and a WRX. Uh, it definitely looks like something STI would make. Um, I didn't, it didn't look enough like a real car that I really studied it past the photo, to be honest with you. Did you see it, Zach?

• 53:50Speaker 01

  Um, I mean, I looked at the pictures, yeah, and I think, you know, I think if they'll probably get rid of some of these elements, I think it, I think it looks close to production, honestly. Like this, doesn't, it doesn't look like a crazy concept. You know, maybe the vents wouldn't be here on the hood, uh, maybe the wing will be smaller, but like these, these fender flares to me look like, you know, they could make them. I think it looks...

• 54:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, I guess the front, the low, below the belt line looks like it could be fairly legit.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  Yes. It, uh, it looks thick to me. It, like, it reminds me a bit of, like, Mazda Speed 3, but like, the, the distance from the top of the front wheel to what appears to be the hood looks very crossover. Uh, even though the ride height is not crossover, it looks like a very tall, thick car. So that, that kind of surprises me.

• 54:42Matt Farah?

  It does. I wonder, I mean, if that's just a photo that was taken up close with an iPhone and it's slightly distorted. Um, but that is a big wang on the back of it, for sure, and some real box flares.

• 54:58Matt Farah?

  I don't hate it. Yeah, I don't hate it. I do think it looks, the lower half of the rear bumper isn't my favorite. But in general, I mean, I do think, I was talking to this literally with my mother last night at dinner, who was talking about how much she, well, she like loves her Outback. You know, and she's like Subaru is doing such a good job and I love my Outback. And what do you think about Subaru? And I was like, it's funny that, you know, that you, you know, 70 something, you know, old Jewish lady love your Outback so much. I was like, because Subaru has basically abandoned the enthusiast.

• 55:39Matt Farah?

  You know, they've decided that people like you buying Outbacks and Foresters are more important to the bottom line than young people, most of whom don't have any money, buying WRXs and STIs.

• 55:56Matt Farah?

  And she's like, what about the Crosstrek? And I'm like, I think the Crosstrek has the same 2.5 inch that it's been in Subaru's for like 30 years at this point. And there's nothing wrong with a Crosstrek, like that's a, but that, a Crosstrek is like,

• 56:14Matt Farah?

  it's just, it's like if someone says to me, Matt, I just want a car. Like a car for my kid or a car for, you know, a car for someone who doesn't give a shit about cars. You just say Crosstrek. Like that's the car for that.

• 56:28Speaker 01

  Crosstrek, I think is the, it's like someone who aspires to own a 4Runner, but they don't want to have the poor gas mileage. Like they can do a little off-roading, but they also are super safe. They get really good miles, really good miles per gallon on the highway. And yeah, they're not exciting. So if you don't need an exciting vehicle, Crosstrek's a great choice. It's funny that your mom loves it because my aunt has an Outback and loves it and her daughter, like it's, everyone I know who owns a Subaru right now is not a car enthusiast.

• 56:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and my mom's like down here in South Carolina, my mom's like best friend has a Forester and she fucking loves it, you know? My dad, by the way, I don't know if I mentioned it, because last time I was down here, my dad was, my dad bought this Highlander, like a 2017 Highlander as like a kick around car. And there's nothing wrong with a Highlander. It's a fine car, but it was like, it's the most whatever car. Like, it's just, it's a noth- there's a nothing with nothing car. It's just, it's, you'd rent one for a weekend. Like, if you give a shit about anything, you're not buying a fucking Highlander. But like, he bought this thing and he had it from, he bought it, he bought it like, used. He was like, "Ah, it was a very good deal, whatever, fine."

• 57:41Matt Farah?

  So he got over it. And he bought a Lexus TX500HF Sport, which is a real mouthful. But, but, uh, he really likes it. And I drove it yesterday and I kinda like, I kinda like it too, actually. It's not bad. It, uh, it has like, really supportive, nice seats, um, that are very adjustable. And it has a really great, big, vertically big door. Like, like, if you're a tall man, you could just fucking slip, slip right into this thing. Uh, no problemo.

• 58:24Matt Farah?

  Um, and just, you know, for fucking running to the golf course and puttering around, uh, uh, it's a non-plug-in hybrid. Uh, so he never, my, my dad never has to plug it in and deal with that. Cause this is a, this is, you know, he's only here half the time. So the thing kinda, kinda will sit for half the year. Um, but, uh, yeah, the, the, not a bad car. I think it's a good choice for the old man. He got it in like, uh, a battleship gray with black wheels. Not bad.

• 58:55Speaker 01

  This, this does seem like, uh, the, an in-between, you know, Cayenne and Highlander. Right?

• 59:02Matt Farah?

  Well, this is like, the Lexus Highlander, by the way. It's on that platform, but it's much-

• 59:08Speaker 01

  A little more upscale.

• 59:09Matt Farah?

  It's upscale, it's much roomier. The way the layout of the car is, it has much more legroom in both the front. It has captain's chairs in the second row. Um, so, yeah, it's, it's pretty sweet, actually. Like, I kind of, I'm kind of into it. Like, I, again, wouldn't buy one and I don't need to make a video of one. But for my 73-year-old father to drive, uh, to the golf course without like, wrecking his back, pretty good. Pretty good.

• 59:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, so this is the layout he has, right?

• 59:40Matt Farah?

  It's got the captain's chairs. Yeah, yeah, captain's chairs, yeah.

• 59:45Matt Farah?

  Pretty nice. The old man, the old man is, uh, he's upgraded the vehicle. But he didn't, he, he likes the Panamera. But when I, I took him to the car show today. I, I went three quarters throttle for about five seconds and he did the, oh, you know, one of those. He did one of those, one of those. He's not, he's not about that. And he doesn't like how small the door openings are in the Panamera. Which actually, that's a valid criticism. If you're old and tall and have a bad back, big door openings are important. Vertically big.

• 1:00:23Speaker 01

  Definitely. Absolutely.

• 1:00:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  All right. Up your ass and gasoline. Back to the question says, um, does your ability to service a vehicle ever play into our purchasing decisions? So if a car we wanted to own landed in our lap, would we walk away based on the maintenance? Uh, or buy a car and then figure it out later?

• 1:00:45Matt Farah?

  Only in a very extreme circumstance. I mean, I've had old Ferraris. If an old, you know, I mean, like, you know, you got, it's gotta be pretty fucked up for me to run, run away from it at this point. I, I've told these, I will, I will not buy a Porsche 959. I don't care how rich I get, like, not happening. You know, but, and I wouldn't, and I mean, like, not a real world problem, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to deal with the Veyron bullshit either. Like the tires and, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't. That's too annoying, that kind of stuff.

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  I think at almost any price point, what really would matter to me is my access to service or parts. Like, you know, we live in SoCal where you can get an old Ferrari rebuilt by like five different respected people. You know, people from Iowa send their cars here. But if you live somewhere where you're not near, like, if you buy a Lotus or a Caterham or, you know, something even that's not expensive and there's no one near you that knows how to work on it, you know, if you buy a fucking Camaro in Italy, uh, I don't know. It just, that's what I would think of is what's my, how, what's my access to either the parts, i.e. Lotus, um, or service, uh, some sort of mechanic?

• 1:02:00Matt Farah?

  Totally true. I had that Hummer for three, three or four months in oh six. And it actually wasn't that the car itself was such a piece of shit. It was that it had, I experienced a very known problem among H1 Hummers. There was a absolutely dead to nuts, reliable, known fix for it. And I couldn't find anybody to fucking work on that car. Um, and even, even at the time, Hummer was still an active brand with the H2 and H3. And they wouldn't work on H1s, which was crazy.

• 1:02:39Speaker 01

  That's so unfair.

• 1:02:41Matt Farah?

  The dealer, I was like, are you fucking for real? I was like, are you aware this is your top of the line product?

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  Geez, that's, that's not okay.

• 1:02:52Matt Farah?

  They said, we don't have a Diesel Tech on site. I said, how the fuck is that possible? You're a Hummer dealer. You know, well, you know, we don't really sell a lot of H1s. Jesus Christ, man.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, they have, they have 15 techs that can work on the 6.2 though. Um, all right, Rolex LT Tariot, uh, sorry, Rolex LT Lariat King Ranch. That's someone's name. Um, do we have thoughts on the upcoming Ram electric pickup? That has a 3.6 V6 ICE engine that's just a generator? Do we think this is the future of plug-in hybrids where, you know, it's just a range extender? But the engine doesn't provide any of the actual thrust?

• 1:03:28Matt Farah?

  I think it's a very interesting concept that I really look forward to trying out. I mean, I, people have been talking about a, a, a, a range extended EV for a long time. You know, and, and it's, it's actually like, every time I bring home a plug-in hybrid. My wife goes, well, why isn't this the other way? And I go, what do you mean? She goes, you get 50 miles of electric and then 200 miles of gas. She goes, why don't I get 200 miles of electric and then 50 miles of gas? To be sure that I can get to the next thing, no matter what? And I, I go, well.

• 1:04:11Matt Farah?

  The energy math doesn't really work like that, I don't think. Otherwise, they would, right?

• 1:04:19Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I mean, otherwise, if they're installing a generator system,

• 1:04:25Speaker 01

  the larger electric range is just based on battery size. So, you know, the company can save money and save you some money by shrinking the battery size and giving you something very close to what she's thinking of.

• 1:04:36Matt Farah?

  Right, if you have to have a full-size battery pack and some kind of combustion engine, the entire plug-in hybrid premise is based on a smaller battery pack that then makes room for the packaging and weight of the combustion engine. There is, I mean, there is gonna be a balance, right? Like, if you, if you just, like, keep shrinking the ICE engine, you know, and slowly ratchet up the battery, eventually, you get to a pretty small engine that's able to generate enough juice to recharge this battery virtually indefinitely.

• 1:05:19Matt Farah?

  I think Mazda, in the last, like, two days while I've been here, showed a rotary-powered concept where the rotary engine, which makes so much sense, you don't need any fucking torque. The thing's just gotta spin as smooth as it possibly can, right? So, um, yeah, I, I mean,

• 1:05:43Matt Farah?

  in, in, in concept, this seems like a good idea. I hope that in practice, it works that well.

• 1:05:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I agree. Sam H. says, "He saw a Raptor with U-Haul rental decals on it and thought it'd be funny to have a short-term rally or something that had a decal system." So what would our meme rap or customization be for a rally car?

• 1:06:07Matt Farah?

  I 100% thought about this already. I would be a fucking Sprinter, full luxury inside, like, captain's chairs, fucking, ripping blondes, chilling. The outside would be a FedEx, just delivery van, just blanked out. Right? Park that bitch wherever you want, just with the hazards on, like.

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's very smart. There's a guy I watched, he's a British dude that builds, you know, fancy camping vans, but his whole move right now is building stealth ones. So it's like white Ford Transit with fake plumbing business livery. And like, he puts a ladder, he puts a ladder on it, just so he can hide the solar panels. And then in the back, it's, it's pretty luxurious. It's very cool.

• 1:06:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, because these folks are probably parking these shits on the street, right? And getting broken into or whatever, right?

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I think where he is, it's harder to, like, the rules about where you can park your camper to sleep for the night are strict. So he goes, well, here's a way you can just park pretty much wherever you want. And hopefully no one's gonna mess with the van.

• 1:07:13Matt Farah?

  It's not a camper!

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:07:17Matt Farah?

  I love it. And I bet you, I bet you people, if you're in a fucking work truck, I bet people are nicer to you on the highway than if you're in a kitted out Sprinter.

• 1:07:29Speaker 01

  I don't know, I've never felt any sort of, I've never felt animosity towards either van. It's just like, how are they driving? So.

• 1:07:37Matt Farah?

  I haven't felt animosity either, but I find when I drive different cars, that people treat me differently.

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:07:44Matt Farah?

  When I was rolling that Benteke last week, review up on Instagram right now, Benteke Speed, very lovely vehicle. People treated me like I was a piece of shit. It wouldn't let me merge anywhere.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  That's funny. One downside of the stealth van move is with what he did, he didn't have side windows you could open. Because, you know, it's like, it's all white, it's supposed to be a panel van. So your breathability, you might suffer. Or, you know, you gotta really have some good filters on top.

• 1:08:17Matt Farah?

  So you could, you gotta do what they do on the buses, where they do the dots, right? Where on the outside, it looks like graphics, but from the inside, like, light goes through, you know?

• 1:08:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good idea.

• 1:08:28Matt Farah?

  So you would get a van that has windows, but then do graphic on the windows. So you couldn't really see in, you know?

• 1:08:35Speaker 01

  That'd be, yeah, that'd be a good idea.

• 1:08:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:38Speaker 01

  All right. I don't know whether I'm the Boxer or the Jag, asks, if we could go back and re- Yeah. If we could go back and remake any of our past automotive adventures for the modern day, such as all cars go to heaven, be first to get a ticket, or a guy taking his tree stump for a walk with a logging chain. How would we remake it differently for the modern era?

• 1:09:01Matt Farah?

  I would have chased down the logging guy. A hundred percent. I would have fucking chased that guy down and confronted him on video.

• 1:09:09Speaker 01

  That is, that's the new way.

• 1:09:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, if I knew what that would have been, I would have chased that motherfucker down for sure. Yeah.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  Cause you don't want to leave unanswered questions. You know, the audience is like, what, what's the story? And now you go, hey man, hey man, where'd you get this log? What do you do for a living?

• 1:09:27Matt Farah?

  What do you, where can I get some of the meth you're doing? Because, obviously, yeah.

• 1:09:33Speaker 01

  The bravery and stupidity of that.

• 1:09:35Matt Farah?

  That's a no brainer, yeah.

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  Um, alright, uh, Zach Clapmansery says, uh, uh, thoughts on, that's pretty funny.

• 1:09:44Matt Farah?

  That's really funny!

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  Clapmansery, god, their cards are...

• 1:09:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, very good.

• 1:09:49Speaker 01

  Certainly a thing. Um, uh, thoughts on swapping his gator strap out for a steel bracelet on his IWC Portugueseer 40? To give it a little more daily usability, because the leather feels too dressy.

• 1:10:03Matt Farah?

  Sure. I fucking hate alligator unless you're wearing suits every day. I think it does not look good. So I think you have a lot of options. IWC makes a metal bracelet for that watch, you can buy that. Um, there is a variety of rubber straps you could get that give you a more sporty look, uh, that are cool. You can also get leather, uh, leather straps that aren't alligator, that are more smooth, that look a little better, uh, casual. You could also get stuff like sailcloth. Um, sailcloth is a really good one because, um, it matches the aesthetic of a leather from a distance, but up close, it's a little sportier and you can do fun colors and stuff.

• 1:10:47Matt Farah?

  If you want to do a splash of fun, you could do a bright, bold color with a sailcloth strap. So, um, yeah, if you want to go bracelet, go bracelet, um...

• 1:10:58Matt Farah?

  Just make sure if you go bracelet that the end links match. You don't want just a, you know, a bar across. It's gotta be flush. Like, if I can show, like, with the case. The end link bit on a metal bracelet, like if I took this bracelet off, you know, and just put a strap here, you'd have a little gap, right? So that's fine with a strap. That's like how straps work. But if you buy an aftermarket metal bracelet, you don't then want to have a gap there. That's janky shit. So, yeah. But I'm, I'm pro ditching Gator. Gator sucks if you're not like 70.

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  It definitely seems like something from a bygone era.

• 1:11:40Matt Farah?

  Trace commas not seashells.

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  I, yeah, I don't know. It slips under suits well.

• 1:11:46Matt Farah?

  Trace seashells? I like that very much.

• 1:11:48Speaker 01

  Trace commas not seashells says, "If you could snap your fingers and remove one car feature from existence forever, what is it?"

• 1:11:57Matt Farah?

  Haptic buttons.

• 1:12:00Matt Farah?

  There we go.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  They've come and gone in what, 10 years? Like, they're pretty much leaving and that tells you something.

• 1:12:10Speaker 01

  Billy Idling says, "Matt, will you be test driving the new Vespa 300?"

• 1:12:15Matt Farah?

  There's a new Vespa 300?

• 1:12:21Matt Farah?

  Is there?

• 1:12:23Speaker 01

  I don't know, but that...

• 1:12:26Speaker 01

  Your intrigue was great.

• 1:12:28Matt Farah?

  If there really is a new Vespa 300, it is on the very top of my priority list. I'm writing it down right now.

• 1:12:35Speaker 01

  There's something called the Vespa GTS?

• 1:12:38Matt Farah?

  I have a Vespa GTS.

• 1:12:40Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:12:41Matt Farah?

  Mine is a GTS Super 300. Is there a new one?

• 1:12:49Matt Farah?

  Oh, well, this, this is a slightly updated. This looks a little bit different from mine. Um, the, the wheels are slightly different. It's all, and there's new colors. I don't see anything else different.

• 1:13:07Matt Farah?

  Go, go down. It's got a new-

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  It's got a lot of vents on it. I don't think yours had as many fins.

• 1:13:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, mine does. Right, the ones on the upright there?

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, this thing-

• 1:13:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah, that's, that's for the radiator. The, the 300 is water cooled. Those are radiator vents. Other, honestly dude, other than the wheels and a couple of these colors, this looks just like mine.

• 1:13:29Matt Farah?

  Oh, it's 310. No, no, 310.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's 310.

• 1:13:32Matt Farah?

  Oh, so mine was a 300 and now there's a 310?

• 1:13:36Speaker 01

  10 more cc's.

• 1:13:38Matt Farah?

  It's 10 more. How much can you, can you find, look at the tech specs and see how much power the 10 cc's gives you? Oh, don't download a brochure. Just click on it, click on one and, and see if there's a technical specifications.

• 1:13:56Matt Farah?

  We must know.

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  High, high performance.

• 1:13:59Matt Farah?

  Down, yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:01Speaker 01

  310 cc's.

• 1:14:01Matt Farah?

  310 cc's. It doesn't say-

• 1:14:05Speaker 01

  It does not.

• 1:14:07Matt Farah?

  Key, oh, it's got keyless ignition and remote start now. I love that.

• 1:14:11Speaker 01

  There we go.

• 1:14:12Matt Farah?

  Wait, go back. Oh, there we go. Okay, here we go. Max power, 25 horsepower.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:18Matt Farah?

  I'm...

• 1:14:21Matt Farah?

  Dude, I'm pretty sure mine makes 26 horsepower.

• 1:14:27Matt Farah?

  Oh, you know what this is, dude? This is running to stand still.

• 1:14:35Matt Farah?

  Look, look at the very bottom of this sheet. Euro 5 Plus. This is, this is the 991.2 GT3 for scooters. They've added 10 cc in order to give you the same horsepower as the old one with better emissions.

• 1:14:52Speaker 01

  Right, so this has, uh...

• 1:14:56Matt Farah?

  I think, I think, that's what this looks like.

• 1:14:58Speaker 01

  Do you know your CO2 emissions certificate offhand?

• 1:15:01Matt Farah?

  Nope, absolutely not. But I'm, I'm, I, based on what I'm reading here, I'm pretty sure those 10 cc's are to offset a emissions control system that takes away horsepower.

• 1:15:14Speaker 01

  What, uh, what year is your Vespa?

• 1:15:17Matt Farah?

  2020.

• 1:15:19Matt Farah?

  And it's a GTS 300. Ooh, we're really, this is investigative journalism.

• 1:15:28Matt Farah?

  I think mine makes 26 horsepower though.

• 1:15:33Speaker 01

  I just was, uh... Am I being...

• 1:15:36Matt Farah?

  No, is that right?

• 1:15:38Speaker 01

  Yours makes... Go away.

• 1:15:42Matt Farah?

  Engine, go down. There. Single cylinder.

• 1:15:50Matt Farah?

  Oh wait, there it is. Horsepower, 23.8. Oh, I'm off. I apologize. 23.8.

• 1:15:56Speaker 01

  So the new one makes 1.2 more.

• 1:15:59Matt Farah?

  All right. Well, look, I stand corrected about my, about my, uh, running to stand still. 1.2 horsepower is in fact more. That is correct. Okay. Well, look, now I, I have to feel this power increase. We, we must.

• 1:16:16Speaker 01

  You should try the new one. What if it's totally different?

• 1:16:19Matt Farah?

  What if it's totally different?

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  It's gonna feel totally different.

• 1:16:24Matt Farah?

  Look, and now I know, and now I'm writing it down. Vespa 310 Presslon.

• 1:16:32Matt Farah?

  All right.

• 1:16:35Speaker 01

  Lucid Gravity Bong says, "They have an IONIQ 5 and their lease runs out soon. They're considering the 6N as a fun commuter to add to their IONIQ 9 for family. Are there any other EV sedans worth a comparison, new or used?" $75,000 max, uh, for a lease. Or they need to be a CEO, CPO. Yeah.

• 1:16:55Matt Farah?

  Maki Rally. You know Marco just bought one?

• 1:16:58Speaker 01

  Yep. He says he likes it a lot.

• 1:17:00Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Maki Rally's, dude, uh, Marco just, our boy just got one. 36 months, uh, low down payment, $550 a month. That's where you want to be. That's money.

• 1:17:14Speaker 01

  Those are a good time. Avant to Go Fast. I love that name. Avant to Go Fast. Considering replacing the wife's and family hauler. It's a 2013 Q7 TDI.

• 1:17:27Matt Farah?

  Ooh, good car!

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, mechanically sound, dated interior. I think so. This person is concerned about the complexity of longer-term reliability with most newer cars. Is their concern overblown? Or is there a sweet spot that balances core features without excess? They probably want to stick with an Audi or Volkswagen, they say.

• 1:17:53Matt Farah?

  I mean, look. The average age of cars on the road is going up. You know, so the complexity of the cars isn't necessarily making them not work for as long as they need to work. I think.

• 1:18:14Matt Farah?

  But, um, yeah, okay. So, I mean, Q7 TDI was an awesome car, actually. I mean, other than the emissions cheating shit. I mean, that's obviously bad. But as a car, it was a fucking great car. My mom had one. So is the question is the question just about the the concerns about the tech? Or was there actually a recommendation or a suggestion in there?

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  Uh, basically, you know, should they be concerned about? You know, yeah. What would we recommend, assuming that the concern about reliability is overblown?

• 1:18:50Speaker 01

  If, you know, I mean, if you're sticking with Audi, Volkswagen.

• 1:18:53Matt Farah?

  A new Q7 is fine. Like, a new Q7 is pretty nice.

• 1:18:58Matt Farah?

  3.0 T, proven motor.

• 1:19:03Matt Farah?

  Oh, are you there?

• 1:19:05Speaker 01

  I'm sorry, I was just thinking, I would say this person, I would go look up like, you know, we need to know your budget. So you should take your budget and go look at forums or consumer reports for the year of car you're tempted to get. Like if you want to get a 2022 Q7, you know, we always drive the brand new ones. So that will tell you if the new fancy screens and stuff are having problems or not. I would definitely look that up first. I have anecdotal, but my friend had a brand new company car. It was an S5. This was two years ago. And it went back to the shop twice, I think, for screen problems. And Audi has a lot of screens controlling a lot of the stuff in their vehicles. So

• 1:19:43Matt Farah?

  I would look at CPO Cayenne hybrids, too. Cayenne hybrids are rad. They're really nice. I would look at CPO those because you can get, you can get, our boy, John Harper, who's a photographer who I've worked with a bunch for magazine stuff and for all kinds of stuff. He just got like a shockingly old Cayenne hybrid on CPO. I want to say it was like a 17 or an 18. And he got it on CPO from a dealer. Like, that's wild. And

• 1:20:21Matt Farah?

  so if you can find a 2020 to 2023 Cayenne hybrid, like the one my dad has, it kicks ass. It's great.

• 1:20:32Speaker 01

  This username is not AI-generated, says, "My wife just passed a major milestone in her career. She wants a watch. Neither of us know anything about watches. We are looking in the $10,000 price range. The first brand that came to mind was Rolex, but all of her friends say Cartier. Are there any women brand watches you'd recommend looking into?"

• 1:20:56Matt Farah?

  All women love Cartier. It's just a, it's just a rule of life. Death, taxes, and all women love Cartier. So, I am not surprised that the two big answers are Rolex and Cartier. Rolex is, if you want to buy a watch, if you've got ten grand, you, you, you're gonna do what essentially my mother did. Which is, my mother got a nice Rolex Lady Date Just. It's steel, but it's got diamonds on the, on the, on the indices. It's not insane, but it's lovely. She got it in 1996. She's gonna wear it every day until the day she dies. That's what that watch is for.

• 1:21:38Matt Farah?

  You get a Rolex Date Just, and it's the last watch you fucking buy until your death. If that's, if you're not a watch person, and you want a great watch for every outfit for the rest of your life, get a Date Just, couple little diamonds on there, done. Or, you go Cartier. Cartier is not an everyday watch, for most people, because of leather straps. You can't get it wet, things like that. Uh, but all ladies love Cartier, so... This is a celebration, it's a vibe, you know? Do you want a special occasion watch that's a little fancier? Maybe a leather strap, maybe it's made of gold? Or do you want something that is gonna be, I'm gonna put this on for every activity I do for the next forty years?

• 1:22:23Matt Farah?

  So, there's your choice. I mean, outside of that, you know, the standards, you're looking at... Well, for women, you might be looking at Bulgari, or Bulgari, depending on how you pronounce it. Um, uh, really some interesting, uh, ladies-focused watches over at Bulgari. Uh, there are a couple of really cool IWCs, um, that are in smaller diameters for women, if she wants more of like a tool-type watch. Um, or you could go vintage, if you really wanna be hardcore, but my guess is you do not. Um, yeah, I think you're on the right track, though.

• 1:23:01Speaker 01

  Big Ben says, "I'm thinking of swapping my F80 for one of the hot, small crossovers. Considering pre-owned X3M, but parentheses with softer springs, a Macan GTS, or the wild card is lease an Ioniq 5N. Home charger's not a problem. How do we feel these cars compare from a dynamic or driving enjoyment standpoint?"

• 1:23:25Matt Farah?

  Very interesting. What do you think?

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  I think, well, the X3M is, I think, the stiffest and the most exciting, but if you soften the springs, it'll ride better. But in my opinion, then you're kind of landing on Macan GTS. I think the Macan has better steering feel, and I like the ratio of it better. I like the shape of the steering wheel better. I think the BMWs have that thick, you know, like Lego man handhold.

• 1:23:50Matt Farah?

  The Lego man grip.

• 1:23:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Lego grip, man. It's a really thick-rimmed wheel. And the 5N is fun, interesting. I kind of got bored of the soundscape pretty quickly. The lower center of gravity's nice, but it's also, it's a really big car. I don't know. I'll look up what the measurements are. When you talk, I'll look it up. I'm not sure how it compares to the Macan GTS, but the Ioniq, when I stand next to it, seems like a larger vehicle than the Macan.

• 1:24:20Matt Farah?

  The exterior dimensions are similar, but it's not as tall. It's a little bit lower. But the length and width are similar to a Macan, but it's not quite as tall. I would probably rather have a Macan GTS with a CPO than a BMW X3M, personally. Even though the X3M is faster, I don't really care most of the time.

• 1:24:52Matt Farah?

  Ioniq 5N is the right car if you want it to be a regular EV most of the time. But then you have the option to turn the gimmicks and stuff on when it gets twisty and fun. If you turn off the sound, if you turn off the gears and you just drive it like an EV, it's a nice EV and driving an EV every day is very refined. You might be a little more relaxed when you arrive at your destination because of the lack of the vibrations from gas engines and transmissions and things like that.

• 1:25:29Matt Farah?

  So if you think you might want to try an EV but not give up the dynamics of a fun crossover, that's what the Ioniq is for. But if you want, you know, gas, I would go Macan.

• 1:25:47Speaker 01

  You also have more versatility with a Macan because you could road trip it to anywhere more easily than you could the 5N, if that's a thought.

• 1:25:56Matt Farah?

  You could, marginally. My mom, by the way, is, I've had this conversation with my mom. I think, I dare, I told my mom, because she just doesn't, I've told her about the charge network and she's like, I just, I wouldn't, I go, Mom, you drive like 40 miles a day. Like you could, you, you, you don't, you barely use the battery in your hybrid. Like you could have an EV and she's like, but, but what if, but what if? And I go, I go, you, this isn't a thing. I go, it would be, it's one thing if you didn't have a home charger and you had to find public charging in Greenwich, Connecticut twice a week, you know, in order to make it to your job in the city, right? But if you're talking about charging at your house every day and

• 1:26:41Matt Farah?

  road trip, my 70 something mother, you know, the idea that she's going on a road trip is ridiculous. And even so, I said, I said, I said, along all the interstates, every Walmart has a bank of high-speed chargers. They're all over the place on the interstates. And she's like, I just, I just don't trust it. And I'm like, Mom, I'm gonna force you to do like a three-day EV road trip with me just to prove to you that your fears are not real.

• 1:27:14Matt Farah?

  And like, they're, they're just not like, people do this every fucking day. It's not a big deal.

• 1:27:22Speaker 01

  Well, there's a, there's a small learning curve to it that's gotten

• 1:27:26Matt Farah?

  There's a small learning curve. I agree.

• 1:27:27Speaker 01

  In the beginning, you like, you know, like imagining my mom going to a charger and then the charger doesn't work and she has to try three or four of them. Like, that's not good for anybody, but the charging infrastructure has gotten better. The payment things don't stop as much. Like, there's less of those issues. But it would, I think, I think it's a great idea to take her on a three day trip and just have her experience it and get her take on, you know, what it's like. And maybe, and, and, and after that trip, would she go, oh, this actually is not as daunting or, you know, challenging as I thought it would be.

• 1:27:57Matt Farah?

  I mean, if you, if you set up plug and charge to where your car, you know, it can, can connect without you interfering to the charge network. You set up with ChargePoint, you set up with EA and, and maybe Tesla if that, you know, applies and you've got a reciprocity there if your car works with Tesla. You, you show up and you plug in. I mean, 99% of times you show up and you plug in. You know, and so, um, and I, and I'm not trying to say that everybody needs to switch to EV, but I, but I'm saying that there's a lot of people that would find their day

• 1:28:35Matt Farah?

  to day lives would probably be improved driving an EV and they're just afraid of what is mostly nothing. Mostly.

• 1:28:45Speaker 01

  Very true. Very true. Days of the new edge Mustang. If you redid the cheap car challenge like you did.

• 1:28:53Matt Farah?

  A bad car and a bad band together.

• 1:28:57Speaker 01

  If you redid the cheap car challenge like you did with Robin Vinnie, what would the price point be today?

• 1:29:03Matt Farah?

  Gotta be a thousand bucks, right? I don't know. I don't, I think a thousand bucks. It might've been 500, you know, in 06. I think a thousand bucks is your, is your minimum for a running car with a license plate on it in 2025, right?

• 1:29:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, probably.

• 1:29:22Speaker 01

  Do the Mitsubishi Evolution.

• 1:29:27Speaker 01

  Matt, you handwrite your notes. How do you organize them if you ever want to go back and search for something? This person uses a remarkable tablet so they can do handwriting recognition, but then they can search for a topic if they have to go look for something. Would you ever try such a thing? Matt shaking his head.

• 1:29:44Matt Farah?

  I flip backwards in the book until I find it. Yeah. When you, when you handwrite, when I handwrite stuff, if I know it's handwritten, if I wrote something in the book handwritten, I will remember what it looks like in the book. And when I flip to that page, I will see it right away. And it does not take that long to flip through all the pages, especially if I can connect it somehow to my calendar and I know roughly what date the thing happened on or about. And then I can find it easily in the book.

• 1:30:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:24Matt Farah?

  But my notes don't need to be searchable.

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  If I was doing it for like five different classes in college, like using the one notebook for chemistry writing, da-da-da, like then I understand the benefit of search function.

• 1:30:37Speaker 01

  But, you know, yours is day by day.

• 1:30:40Matt Farah?

  My notebook is largely just to-do lists,

• 1:30:46Matt Farah?

  lists of things to talk about on whatever podcast we're doing that day, topic lists for, it's all lists of stuff. And so 95% of the time, when I turn the page and start a new page, I'm pretty much done with whatever is on the previous page. Most of the time. It's only once or twice a year I need to go back and look for something in a notebook from, from back in the, before.

• 1:31:16Speaker 01

  Plymouth Jewish Space Laser. Did anything happen trying to have Jessie Singer on? This person read "There Are No Accidents" and it was a great book. Did we ever try?

• 1:31:26Matt Farah?

  Oh, Jessie Singer. Jessie Singer, I gotta circle back with Jessie. I think she was like about to have a baby when I contacted her. And she said like, "Oh, you know, it was like maternity leave kind of thing." And she was like, "Can you circle back?" And we tried a couple of times and it didn't work. "I will try again." Jessie Singer.

• 1:31:53Speaker 01

  This name's great.

• 1:31:55Matt Farah?

  Alright.

• 1:31:57Speaker 01

  Faraday's front mount Dumbo-tron.

• 1:32:01Matt Farah?

  That's pretty good.

• 1:32:02Speaker 01

  That car.

• 1:32:04Matt Farah?

  They put a screen on the front.

• 1:32:06Speaker 01

  On the front of a minivan? I mean, just tell us you're laundering money. It's not really illegal anymore, so just say it.

• 1:32:17Speaker 01

  If you could make changes to any affordable car, let's say under 40 grand, what car would it be and what changes would you make? Like this person would want to make a Kona N a WRX competitor. So, you know, we want to take an affordable car and change it somehow to make it a new thing.

• 1:32:35Matt Farah?

  I would want to take the John Cooper Works Mini and turn it into the John Cooper Works Mini from 20 years ago.

• 1:32:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, make it smaller and more fun.

• 1:32:46Matt Farah?

  Smaller, faster, better steering, more engaging, fully disabled traction control, manual transmission. It has to go

• 1:32:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that's pretty much it. I would go, I would get rid of like almost all the screens in BMWs.

• 1:33:09Speaker 01

  I would put a turbocharger on the BRZ.

• 1:33:13Matt Farah?

  That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. I would, yeah.

• 1:33:17Speaker 01

  I would do that.

• 1:33:18Matt Farah?

  Yeah, just like the regular ass WRX motor would do it, pretty much. Yeah.

• 1:33:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, front wheel drive NSX, how much time do you have left? We have, uh...

• 1:33:28Matt Farah?

  I have six minutes and then I have to go to dinner.

• 1:33:31Speaker 01

  Great. Um, front wheel drive NSX, uh, it's a watch question. They're looking at Sheffield Watches. The prices are cheap. That's a good thing.

• 1:33:37Matt Farah?

  They are.

• 1:33:37Speaker 01

  Um, they work in a restaurant and they're wondering, sorry, they work in restaurant, equipment repair. Will this watch hold up to their job? Most of the forums about reliability are from office worker types.

• 1:33:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah, dude, I, I am not qualified to answer if you can abuse this watch in a, you know, smashing it into stuff. I, I know that for the price point, these are quality watches. Have I torture tested one? I, I, I genuinely couldn't tell you. I'm sorry. You know?

• 1:34:15Speaker 01

  Um, type R negative.

• 1:34:19Matt Farah?

  That's pretty funny.

• 1:34:22Speaker 01

  What enthusiast cars could keep, would we keep for 50 years while minimizing risk of part availability issues? Something besides 911s. Uh, I think a lot of Japanese enthusiast cars. I think those companies will be, Toyota and Honda are going to be around for a long time. And I think they're, I think they're recognizing the importance of their classic sports cars and they'll probably keep some sort of part supply.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  And BMW shit, I mean, I think, I think the old Euro cars have huge support network.

• 1:34:56Matt Farah?

  Sure. You've never been able to not get a part for a Ferrari. I mean, for any Ferrari. It's not exactly a car of the people, but if you buy a 80s or 90s Ferrari for, you know, reasonable money, you will not have a problem finding parts. They might be expensive if you want them from Ferrari, but, but, but they're going to be around. Yeah.

• 1:35:23Matt Farah?

  This might be a little sketchy Aston Martin. Maybe, you know, you get a DB7 or something, or a fucking, or a Vanquish. It may be tough to, early Vanquish, maybe tough to find parts for.

• 1:35:36Matt Farah?

  Certainly Lambo, some Lambos, like you can, if you got into a Lambo Yalpa, you know, you get into one of those for 100, 120 grand. Very rare Lambo, you get into any concourse you enter. But, yikes, trying to find parts for that. Oof, man, that would be tough.

• 1:35:55Matt Farah?

  Corvettes, you'll be fine. You know, you've always been able to get anything for a Cor- for any Corvette.

• 1:36:05Speaker 01

  Um, old Rusty Beamer wants to go back to your BMW R2-D2, uh, review.

• 1:36:13Matt Farah?

  What is that?

• 1:36:14Speaker 01

  No, you drove that motorcycle that, um, it was like the RDTW09 or whatever it was called.

• 1:36:21Matt Farah?

  Oh, R9T.

• 1:36:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36:25Matt Farah?

  The R9T, yeah.

• 1:36:27Speaker 01

  So, originally, this is what they say. Originally, you described the drivetrain as clunky. Then a listener pointed out that the drivetrain is from an older model, so the clunkiness is intentional. You then said, "It's not clunky, it's cool." Uh, this person says, "Can you explain this reasoning of change? Uh, are we all dumb monkeys and there's a reason designers and engineers don't listen to us?"

• 1:36:51Speaker 01

  Not sure I understand the second part, but like...

• 1:36:53Matt Farah?

  I don't...

• 1:36:55Speaker 01

  It is, my takeaway is, you know, if the drivetrain is clunky when you see it as a brand-new technology, but if it's an old technology, you go, "Actually, that's not a bad thing. It's kind of cool because it's, you know, vintage and, uh, and tough."

• 1:37:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean...

• 1:37:13Matt Farah?

  Let me just say that it's not for me. But if you are into BMW's heritage and you wanted something that felt a little older, I guess, but was still a brand-new bike, you could get one of these things.

• 1:37:31Matt Farah?

  I'm not really sure what the question is implying. And although it seems I said that the clunky shifter was maybe cool in the context of this being a retro-style bike, I did not think that made it more desirable to ride or own for me personally.

• 1:37:55Speaker 01

  Just the tip Trony says, "What do we think of the walls that have been placed around Streets of Willow?

• 1:38:03Speaker 01

  I've seen some close call videos that look like minor mistakes that could be punished heavily à la Sonoma."

• 1:38:09Speaker 01

  So we've had, you and I've had people ask about this regarding motorcyclists riding in Streets of Willow. So what is your, what is your take?

• 1:38:17Matt Farah?

  Well, so they've added walls, but they've also added paved runoff. And in the areas where they haven't had paved runoff, they've added graded runoff. So if you go off, you're not like going into a ravine anymore or hitting like boulders. So that's like a major, major improvement. If you go off with enough speed and force to then go through those runoffs and hit the wall.

• 1:38:56Matt Farah?

  I'm fairly certain that that might be better than the alternative. Which is, I don't know, just driving out and ending up out in the desert? Or maybe catching an edge in a ravine and rolling?

• 1:39:16Matt Farah?

  I, I don't think the walls at Streets of Willow are in any places that would punish you for going off more so than you would have been punished off going off before, where the undercarriage of your car would have been absolutely wrecked.

• 1:39:37Matt Farah?

  Having said that, I have not driven any high-speed laps of this track yet. So, I'd love to go out there in the next month and poke around and run some laps and and come back with some thoughts on that from a real driver's perspective, which I don't have yet.

• 1:39:57Speaker 01

  Okay, and the last one, Matt and the Giant Porsche. That's, that's so funny.

• 1:40:02Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, that's cute.

• 1:40:04Speaker 01

  Like James and the Giant Peach.

• 1:40:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:07Speaker 01

  I recently became obsessed with the idea of getting a 996 GT3. Have either of us ever driven one? And if so, what are our impressions? This is not a value investment play, so don't think about that part.

• 1:40:21Matt Farah?

  Not only have I driven one, there's a video of it on the channel. You can go see it. I drove it back to back with five other GT3 and RS products at the Porsche Experience Center five or six years ago. 996 GT3s are raw, really raw. They ride stiff, they're fucking loud. They really do feel like motorsport-grade products, but they are much rawer and more aggressive than they look like they are.

• 1:40:58Matt Farah?

  They're cool. They are very cool in their own way. I, after driving one, it's crossed off my list of a desire to own. I would rather have a 997 GT3. I know they're a lot more expensive, but the 996 was a little too aggressive for me.

• 1:41:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. I drove a GT3 and a GT3 RS, and I was very surprised how a car that was 25 years old, I was like, this is really stiff. For all, compared to the other cars of the era, I was, wow, this is locked down, the steering's kind of heavy. I don't like the interior very much.

• 1:41:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:40Speaker 01

  You know, it's a cool way to get in the club, but...

• 1:41:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I agree. And Marco, our friend who had one, sold it and bought a cup car. He was like, wow, I might as well just go all the way at this point, you know?

• 1:41:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:53Matt Farah?

  All right, well, those are some great questions from our patrons. Thank you, guys, for your patience as we podcast from opposite sides of the country today. The next time you hear us, we'll be back in the studio.

• 1:42:08Matt Farah?

  I appreciate all the patrons for having such good questions today. And I appreciate everyone who listens to the show with the ads. But just as a reminder, anyone who is a patron at any level is, at least financially speaking, at least 1,000x more valuable than if you... That's a math problem, not an emotional one, than if you just listen to the ads. So, we appreciate you all, but we appreciate the patrons most of all. Thank you very, very much. Zach, I'll see you in six days, back on the West Coast.