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0:19 Stephen Thompson? It's been nearly 30 years since Toy Story kicked off a historic run of animated films, so now seemed like a good time to discuss the best of the best, your picks for the greatest Pixar films of all time. I'm Stephen Thompson, and today we are ranking the best Pixar movies on NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour. Here to reveal the list is my co-host, Aisha Harris. Hey, Ayesha.
0:42 Aisha Harris? Mike Wazowski. I mean, hey, Stephen.
0:47 Stephen Thompson? You will forever be silly to my Mike Wazowski.
0:50 Aisha Harris? I love it. Thank you, Stephen.
0:52 Stephen Thompson? So, for those of you who didn't vote in our Pixar poll, a quick bit of background. We gave listeners a list of Pixar features, 28 of them in all, prior to the release of "Elle O," and the chance to pick no more than three of them, which, given the number of classic films, was a tough task. I personally counted seven films I wanted to put in my top three. So with that in mind, let's get to your top five, which, thanks to a well-placed tie, is actually a top six. Ayesha, hit us with the first of our two fifth-place finishers.
1:25 Aisha Harris? Woohoo. I was very happy to see especially one of these eke their way in in this tie here. The first is Toy Story, of course, the original version, which came out in 1995, the movie that started it all.
1:39 Speaker 03 You are a toy. You weren't the real Buzz Lightyear. You're an action figure. You are a child's plaything. You are a sad
1:51 Aisha Harris? Strange little man, and you have my pity. And then tied with Toy Story, we have my personal favorite, the movie I think is actually the best Pixar, which is Coco.
2:03 Stephen Thompson? One of those seven films in my top three for sure.
2:06 Aisha Harris? I am so happy to see Coco in here especially. I was not surprised to see Toy Story. I figured one of them at least was gonna make it in here. Look, this is the original. It's the one that a lot of people have a lot of nostalgia for. But Coco, I think it might be the best Pixar personally. You know, this is a movie that came out in 2017, so it's later, later era Pixar. But to me, it kind of has all the ingredients that we, or at least I've come to love about Pixar movies. It's about family, of course, but it's a little bit more complicated than that. You've got Miguel, voiced by Anthony Gonzalez, who finds himself in the land of the dead and uncovers secrets and hidden meaning about his family. And
2:48 Aisha Harris? it's about sort of the stories we tell ourselves and the ways that those things reverberate throughout generations. And it's beautiful, the music's great, and that last scene.
2:58 Speaker 04 Remember me, though I have to travel far. Remember me, each time you hear a sad guitar.
3:12 Stephen Thompson? Oh my god!
3:13 Aisha Harris? One of the last scenes with Mama Coco. Oh my goodness. That scene, especially where Miguel is singing Remember Me to her, and her recognizing it and being lucid for that brief amount of time. I rewatched it recently, still a gut punch. I was bawling. I was bawling.
3:29 Stephen Thompson? Yeah, these are two very different films, and they are two, I think, masterpieces.
3:34 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
3:34 Stephen Thompson? Toy Story gets a ton of credit for being kind of the movie that started it all, and rightfully so. I don't think it gets enough credit for being the bedrock on which some of the best sequels ever made were built.
3:49 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
3:49 Stephen Thompson? You know, when we talk about this poll, you know, this is not a super scientific poll. We gave everybody three votes. The Toy Story series is at a significant disadvantage compared to other sequelized. Pixar movies because it has multiple films that could credibly be considered among the best animated films of all time. And so Toy Story one is splitting the vote with Toy Story two, which is actually my favorite Toy Story movie.
4:17 Aisha Harris? Same, me too.
4:18 Stephen Thompson? Oh, yay. I was raised by collectors, so that film really resonated with me. Toy Story three is a deep sentimental favorite for a lot of people. Where these movies come out in the span of your life ends up being very significant to whether they're your favorite. I think Toy Story is a masterful film. It is funny. It is warm.
4:38 Speaker 05 Excuse me, I think the word you're searching for is Space Ranger.
4:42 Speaker 03 The word I'm searching for, I can't say because there's preschool toys present.
4:47 Stephen Thompson? It is laying all this groundwork for a bunch of magnificent sequels. In the case of Coco, and Coco is getting a sequel, I don't know if it really needs a sequel.
4:57 Aisha Harris? It does not, it does not.
4:59 Stephen Thompson? But talk about an emotional gut punch, and we're going to talk about a few other major like emotionally heavyweight Pixar films. Coco is talking about death and family and remembrance and the power of music. And the way memory gets distorted and the way memory can form myth. There are so many big ideas in this film, but also Aisha, I don't think you've even mentioned how gorgeous.
5:29 Aisha Harris? Oh, my goodness.
5:30 Stephen Thompson? Coco is to look at.
5:32 Aisha Harris? The land of the dead is just such a visual feast. The fact that it's like this urban metropolis that is very vibrant and electric. And the neon colors and just the way that everything looks like it is beautiful. And even the skeletons that are taken from, you know, the classic Day of the Dead imagery. They have so much personality and warmth. They're dead characters, but they're alive. I think it's one of the most gorgeous, gorgeous Pixar movies ever. It's just, it's top tier.
6:03 Stephen Thompson? It really is, and it also really felt lived in. It felt like it took this world seriously. And made something that honored that tradition instead of just like using it for storytelling beats.
6:17 Aisha Harris? I absolutely agree, and this is one of the movies that I always hold up when I'm talking about, you know, Disney slash Pixar. Remaking their films or reimagining their films and trying to like shoehorn in. Diversity or try to correct for their past sins. And I'm just like, Coco was able to do that by creating a new, completely original story, while also being very respectful and very thoughtful about the way it employed all of that. So, yeah, I'm just so happy to see both Toy Story and Coco make their way into this top five or top six.
6:49 Stephen Thompson? They are both correct answers.
6:51 Aisha Harris? Yes.
6:51 Stephen Thompson? Hey, speaking of emotional gut punches, what do you got for number four?
6:57 Aisha Harris? I feel as though listeners probably will not be at all surprised that this is in the top five, often called one of the greatest opening sequences of a movie, especially an animated movie of all time, I think rightfully so. And that is up. Of course, that is the 2009 film starring Ed Asner as Carl, the old crotchety man who is harboring a lot of just grief for the loss of his wife. I always come back to that opening sequence, but I also think the rest of the movie is fun. Like, it's hard, it's really hard. And we're going to talk about another movie, I think people will be able to guess.
7:33 Stephen Thompson? Yes, we are.
7:33 Aisha Harris? That also has an opening sequence that's very hard to live up to. I think this movie does a really good job of keeping the story interesting, even if it can't quite live up to the heights of the opening. But man, that opening sequence, it's, I don't know, I don't have any words for it. It's just, it's, it still moves me.
7:48 Stephen Thompson? Aisha, I rewatched the sequence the other day, and of course, just balled all over the place, the way you did watching Coco. And what struck me rewatching it, you know, the way it lays out, you get this kind of newsreel with like a bunch of exposition. And then you have eight and a half minutes, eight and a half perfectly scored minutes. You know, it starts out with dialogue and eventually goes wordless. And you're just seeing the playing out of these two intertwined lives.
8:25 Stephen Thompson? But amid all of that emotion, it is really important to note, this is a fun movie.
8:31 Aisha Harris? Yes.
8:32 Stephen Thompson? This is a funny movie.
8:33 Aisha Harris? Squirrel.
8:36 Speaker 06 My master made me this collar. He is a good and smart master, and he made me this collar so that I may talk. Squirrel.
8:43 Stephen Thompson? The character of Doug, the sweet, comic-relief, talking dog that understands dogs in a way that I think very few movies do.
8:53 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
8:54 Stephen Thompson? There is a sweetness to this film. There's some deep messaging in this film, not only about grief, but about how you honor your loved ones by the way that you live your life going forward that I found enormously powerful. Genuinely, when it came out and for a long time thereafter, I would say it was one of my favorite movies, period.
9:14 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
9:14 Stephen Thompson? I really deeply love this film. And think about how novel and what a huge risk it was to make inherently a kid-friendly-type animated movie about an old person.
9:27 Aisha Harris? Yes.
9:28 Stephen Thompson? And an old person as an action hero, as an old person with an interior life, an old person with life ahead of him, an old person paying tribute to a loved one who has died, who is also a deeply fleshed-out, warm character that you care about, who has a presence throughout this film. This movie is such an object lesson in the fact that you can make a kid's movie about almost anything if you have enough of an appreciation for the characters that you're talking about.
10:02 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
10:02 Stephen Thompson? Ayesha, Up is not my number-one favorite Pixar movie, but it is one that I feel really, really passionately about, and I'm so glad it made this list.
10:11 Aisha Harris? Part of that sequence is we see that Carl and his wife were unable to conceive, and it was devastating for them. But they still found ways to find happiness together, and I love that aspect of it. And then it connects to the present day when he meets Russell, and in a way adopts a child.
10:31 Speaker 07 Russell, for assisting the elderly and for performing above and beyond the call of duty, I would like to award you the highest honor I can bestow.
10:47 Speaker 07 The L.A. badge.
10:49 Aisha Harris? I concur. It's not necessarily my go-to Pixar movie, but every once in a while, it is nice to revisit it and nice to be surprised again at how masterful this movie is. So can't be mad about it being in this top five.
11:03 Stephen Thompson? No, not the Pixar movie with the best grasp of physics, but I'll allow it.
11:10 Aisha Harris? It's OK.
11:13 Stephen Thompson? All right, Ayesha, hit us with number three.
11:16 Aisha Harris? All right. Well, number three is actually a movie that I realized I had not seen in, like, well over a decade at least, in part because when it originally came out, I probably watched it so, so many times, it was just imprinted in my brain. That is Finding Nemo from 2003. Albert Brooks voices Marlin, a clownfish who, again, talking about death and losing family members, he loses his wife. I guess, are they what, married? I don't. He loses his partner. They're fish. I don't know.
11:46 Stephen Thompson? I don't know that there was a legal ceremony.
11:48 Aisha Harris? Maybe not, maybe not. But he loses her, but also all of their eggs that have not yet hatched, except for one, and that is Nemo, voiced by Alexandra Gould. It's a story about overprotective parenting, fear of your child's safety.
12:04 Speaker 03 OK, I was right. You know what? We'll start school in a year or two.
12:06 Speaker 04 No, Dad, just because you're scared of the ocean.
12:09 Speaker 03 Clearly, you're not ready, and you're not coming back here till you are. You think you can do these things, but you just can't, Nemo.
12:15 Aisha Harris? That, I think, is sort of a cross-generational appeal that, like, you can kind of see in the earlier movies. Monsters, Inc. also has a little bit of that as well. But I feel like this is the first movie where people were like, yes, Pixar has tapped into this, like.
12:28 Stephen Thompson? This is for the parents just as much as it is for the kids.
12:31 Aisha Harris? If not more, to be honest.
12:32 Stephen Thompson? If not more so.
12:33 Aisha Harris? I'm happy to see it here. It holds up. It really does.
12:38 Stephen Thompson? It's got a great cast. And once again, Ayesha, you haven't yet acknowledged one of the things that really jumps out of this film, which is how it looks.
12:44 Aisha Harris? It's beautiful. Yes, it is beautiful.
12:46 Stephen Thompson? Gather round Grandpa's knee, and he'll tell you about what it was like to walk into a Costco or any store that sold TVs for about. Five years after Finding Nemo came out, this was what you would see. Because if you wanted to show how beautiful a TV was capable of being, you would look at Finding Nemo to get that sense. This deep blue color palette, but then these exquisite colors on top of it. It's worth noting, Ellen DeGeneres got Oscar buzz.
13:18 Aisha Harris? Yes, I remember this.
13:19 Stephen Thompson? For her performance as Dory. And it was real Oscar buzz. She didn't get nominated, but it was talked about as, why not? Why wouldn't you?
13:27 Speaker 04 I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine. And he shall be my Squishy. Come here, Squishy. Come here, little Squishy.
13:36 Speaker 04 Dory, that's a jellyfish. Bad Squishy, bad Squishy.
13:40 Stephen Thompson? Albert Brooks is so good in this and bringing so much pathos. I'm going to come back to this point at least one more time in this conversation. Where you are in your life when you receive a Pixar movie is going to be very important to how you perceive it and how you rank it. And Finding Nemo came out in 2003 in between my first child and my second child. And thinking about that feeling of needing to protect a fragile being that is your responsibility, this movie hit very hard. And it hit hard at the same time that it has this goofy surfer stoner turtle character
14:23 Stephen Thompson? and the emotional support group for sharks who don't want to feed.
14:28 Speaker 06 I am now a nice shark, not a mindless eating machine. If I am to change this image, I must first change myself. Fish are friends, not food.
14:40 Stephen Thompson? So many sweet, funny characters. There's just a little fish where they're describing their different maladies and one of them just says, I'm obnoxious.
14:51 Stephen Thompson? I'm obnoxious should have been a greater catchphrase.
14:55 Stephen Thompson? This film gave and gave. I don't think it's aged a day. I love it.
14:59 Aisha Harris? Yeah, just keep swimming, just keep swimming.
15:01 Stephen Thompson? Oh, my God.
15:02 Aisha Harris? Was part of my vocabulary for a very long time.
15:04 Speaker 04 When life gets you down, you know what you got to do.
15:06 Speaker 06 I don't want to know what you gotta do.
15:07 Speaker 04 Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do?
15:13 Stephen Thompson? That's actually really good advice.
15:15 Aisha Harris? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yes. Finding Nemo, so good. I was 15 when this movie came out, so, you know, I was not a child, but I was also not, I don't know, too cool.
15:26 Stephen Thompson? If you're too cool for Pixar, don't hang out with me.
15:29 Aisha Harris? Yeah, that's, that's true.
15:30 Stephen Thompson? Aisha, I think you and I are of one mind on this one.
15:33 Aisha Harris? Mm-hmm.
15:34 Stephen Thompson? I'm very intrigued to discuss it with you. Number two is...
15:38 Aisha Harris? All right, well, we might have to rain on some parades. Uh, number two is no surprise, I think.
15:44 Stephen Thompson? No, I'm not surprised by Wally.
15:46 Aisha Harris? Yes, it's Wally. Let's just get right to it. This is the other movie, I think, when people think of Pixar and think of great opening sequences, this is the movie everyone thinks of. Of course, you've got Wally, voiced by Ben Burt. He is the last remaining robot on Earth after everyone, all the humans have left because climate change, they ruined the Earth. It's very, it's very poignant. And, and then, of course, you have this amazing sequence of just being with this robot, and he has sentience, and it's just beautiful. And then you get the rest of the movie, when we go to see the humans, and it's such
16:31 Aisha Harris? a precipitous drop, in my opinion.
16:33 Stephen Thompson? To be fair, to, to this film, unlike Up, what people talk about when they talk about Up is often a sequence of about eight and a half minutes.
16:40 Aisha Harris? Sure.
16:41 Stephen Thompson? In the case of Wally, it is a much longer sequence.
16:44 Aisha Harris? Yes.
16:45 Stephen Thompson? It basically plays out as a masterful, silent film.
16:49 Aisha Harris? Mostly wordless.
16:50 Stephen Thompson? Largely wordless, in which this little robot kind of moves through the world and is like still, kind of is very dutiful, it's still like doing the tasks it was assigned to do, but it has such life and such personality.
17:05 Speaker 03 Wally. Wally.
17:12 Aisha Harris? It's a short film. It's an excellent short film.
17:15 Stephen Thompson? If it were just a short film, it would be like one of the best short films I've ever seen.
17:20 Aisha Harris? Yes.
17:20 Stephen Thompson? I do not want to rain on the parade of how brilliant that movie is until the moment the rocket takes off with the little robot attached to it.
17:29 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
17:29 Stephen Thompson? And as soon as it goes into space, it becomes not only a fairly rote Pixar quest epic, but it is also, Ayesha, it is so deeply cynical about humanity in ways that I found shocking.
17:46 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
17:46 Stephen Thompson? It's not just like, I can't handle the fact that it's this scathing indictment of humanity's worst excesses. It's a more cynical than accurate view of what humanity is capable of.
17:59 Aisha Harris? Well, also, so much of that, the criticism coming from within the movie hinges on this idea that like being fat is like the worst thing in the world. It's, it's very kind of queasy to watch, to be honest.
18:13 Stephen Thompson? Yeah, and it's played for laughs, but it's also just like, it's also, you know, I mentioned the physics in Up. The ending is also a complete cop out.
18:21 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
18:21 Stephen Thompson? Like, the world is not suddenly inhabitable.
18:25 Stephen Thompson? It's just, to me, it's like they made a perfect short film, but then grafted a best kind of C-plus Pixar quest to the back of it.
18:36 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
18:37 Stephen Thompson? And it just loses everything that's so magical about how it starts.
18:40 Aisha Harris? Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. Obviously, a lot of people disagree with us because it's at number
18:46 Stephen Thompson? I know, we're gonna get so much.
18:47 Aisha Harris? It's at number two, and it is the first Pixar movie to be entered into the Criterion Collection. So like
18:53 Stephen Thompson? Oh, my god.
18:54 Aisha Harris? Of, it has its fans and it has its defenders.
18:57 Stephen Thompson? In some ways, it's the artiest Pixar movie, right?
18:59 Aisha Harris? It is the, the artiest in the Criterion fanboy film bro way. And I say this as someone who can absolutely play into all of those stereotypes.
19:09 Stephen Thompson? You can outfilm bro a lot of people.
19:11 Aisha Harris? Sure. And, yes, and, and, look, I can hear them, our listeners typing now and being like, how dare you blast me. Ah. But I also I understand why people gravitate toward it. I think there are other movies that they may not come to the the highest height of Wally, but as a full picture execution of a story, you're not going to convince me that Wally is one of the top tier Pixar's outside of that opening sequence. Sorry, not sorry.
19:41 Stephen Thompson? All right, well, that's Wally at number two. After the break, we will reveal the number one pick, which, by the way, is my favorite Pixar movie. So stick around.
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21:18 Stephen Thompson? Welcome back, Ayesha. I am so happy with our listeners right now because they picked my favorite Pixar movie at number one.
21:26 Aisha Harris? The Good Dinosaur.
21:27 Stephen Thompson? The The Good Dinosaur.
21:31 Stephen Thompson? Give us, give us the pick.
21:32 Aisha Harris? It is, of course, Inside Out.
21:35 Speaker 04 Do you ever look at someone and wonder, what is going on inside their head? Well, I know. I know Riley's head.
21:43 Aisha Harris? I mean, duh, right? Yeah. Even if it's not my personal favorite, it's definitely in my top three. And it is definitely... I remember when this movie came out in 2015. It made so many critics' top 10 lists. But it wasn't just a critical hit. It was every audience person I talked to connected with it. And I think back to watching that movie and feeling as though I had been seen. I could remember being that age, the same age as Riley, and feeling all those feelings. And talk about execution and big swing. Like, you know, this is not...
22:26 Aisha Harris? It's not necessarily a wholly original concept. When it came out, a lot of people talked about Herman's Head and how this sort of concept has been explored before. But to do so in a movie directed at children and this idea of what happens when you're no longer an innocent child who may be shielded from the world and that first encounter with all these other feelings and Amy Poehler as Joy and trying to protect that. She's kind of the Woody of this movie. She is the one who's trying to keep the gang together.
22:57 Speaker 04 I get it. You guys have concerns, but we've been through worse. Tell you what, let's make a list of all the things Riley should be happy about.
23:05 Stephen Thompson? She's trying to hold everything together.
23:06 Aisha Harris? But she can't. And learning to accept that in the same way that Woody has to learn to accept that Andy cannot always be his person. Oh, man. And then, of course, I will say, it looks beautiful. It's gorgeous, amazing, but also bing bong.
23:24 Stephen Thompson? Yeah. We have not said the words Richard Kind in the Richard Kindiest performance ever committed to screen.
23:32 Speaker 03 Shape-wise, I'm part cat, part elephant, part dolphin.
23:37 Speaker 04 Dolphin?
23:41 Speaker 03 You gotta remember when Riley was three, animals were all the rage. The cow goes moo, the horse goes neigh. It's all people talked about back then.
23:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
23:48 Aisha Harris? Oh, Bing Bong. Just the idea of losing that creative spark, that imagination, the imaginary front, like, oh, my goodness.
23:56 Stephen Thompson? That sense of what you let go when you grow up, that the sense of imagination that you are not going to be able to access again. And creating a sense of melancholy in a young audience that isn't just like making them sad to make them sad. It's making them sad in ways that introduce them to the workings of their brain. And we haven't mentioned Phyllis Smith from The Office as sadness. Part of what is so great about Inside Out is it's not just about finding balance among our different emotions. It's about finding strength from our different emotions. It's finding strength from darkness. It's finding strength from sadness. It's understanding that all of these things have to work together and they're all there to regulate something.
24:41 Stephen Thompson? They're all there to make our brains work in the best possible way. I just think, like, what an incredibly valuable lesson this film put out there. Kind of like Finding Nemo, not only for kids, but also for their parents. You need me to be happy, but I want my old friends and my hockey team.
25:08 Stephen Thompson? I wanna go home.
25:12 Stephen Thompson? Please don't be mad. I took my 11-year-old daughter to the screening in 2015 and was an absolute wreck. And I really felt like we were sitting there understanding each other a little bit.
25:28 Aisha Harris? Yeah.
25:28 Stephen Thompson? And so this movie came out at a perfect time in my life, a perfect time in her life. I think it is an absolute masterpiece. There is one scene in this film I hate.
25:40 Aisha Harris? We, I know, we all know. We've talked about it many times, but please, but please remind listeners who may not be, may not know where this is going.
25:49 Stephen Thompson? At one point, we get the parents' emotions. The mom's emotions are like a panel on The View and dad's emotions are just trying to watch the hockey game.
26:01 Speaker 03 Uh-oh, she's looking at us.
26:04 Speaker 03 What did she say?
26:04 Speaker 05 Well, oh, sorry, sir. No one was listening.
26:07 Speaker 04 Is it garbage night? Uh, we left the toilet seat up. What? What is it, woman? What? Ah, he's making that stupid.
26:12 Stephen Thompson? So irritating.
26:15 Aisha Harris? Stephen tapping into his disgust there.
26:17 Stephen Thompson? Yes, it did. My disgust, my little disgust goblin got very, very, very sick during that scene. But look, it delighted a lot of people. I'm not, I'm not here to yuck anybody's yum. That scene just made me very mad. It's like two minutes I would have excised from what was otherwise, to me, a perfect film.
26:36 Aisha Harris? Yes.
26:36 Stephen Thompson? So those are the six top vote getters. I'm guessing, just in terms of sheer odds, that there is a very strong possibility that we did not get to your favorite Pixar movie today. Uh, I mean, The Incredibles and Monsters, Inc. were in the top 10, but not the top 5. Ratatouille didn't quite make the cut. There are some other truly great Pixar movies that did not make the cut. I was sad not to see Turning Red, which is one of my, which is one of my favorite Pixar movies.
27:05 Aisha Harris? Same, same.
27:06 Stephen Thompson? We have the full list over on our Letterboxd page. You can find that at letterboxd.com/NPRpopculture. We'll have a link to that in our episode description, so you can kind of pour over what our listeners did and didn't get right. And next month, just for our Pop Culture Happy Hour Plus supporters, Ayesha, you and I are going to be talking about the movies that ranked at the bottom of the list, including the movie that got zero votes. Uh, we have, we have more Pixar hot takes for real. Uh, you don't want to miss that. Sign up now at plus.npr.org/happyhour or visit the link in our show notes. That brings us to the end of our show. Aisha Harris, thanks so much for being here.
27:50 Aisha Harris? You have saved our lives. We are eternally grateful. Ah, thank you, Stephen.
27:56 Stephen Thompson? This episode was produced by Liz Metzger, Hafsa Fathama, and Mike Katzif, and edited by our showrunner, Jessica Reedy. Hello, Come In provides our theme music. Thank you for listening to Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR. I'm Stephen Thompson, and we will see you all next time.
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