The Last Word + Making the Decision To Not Start a Business

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  The following podcast is a Dear Media production. The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

• 0:19Speaker 01

  Hey, can you come pick me up? Yeah, what's wrong? Nothing. Are you sure? Yeah, no, I just need a ride. Oh, my God. So what? I just wanna have fun. Start your engine. Tiger.

• 0:30Benito Skinner?

  I'm Benito Skinner.

• 0:31Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm Mary Beth Brown.

• 0:33Benito Skinner?

  And this?

• 0:33Mary Beth Barone?

  Is?

• 0:34Benito Skinner?

  Ride.

• 0:38Benito Skinner?

  Okay, ready?

• 0:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Mm-hmm. You're gonna do another Zara Larsson intro?

• 0:42Benito Skinner?

  No, no, no, no, no, no. Something new. What would you like me to do?

• 0:46Mary Beth Barone?

  Whatever your heart is saying.

• 0:48Benito Skinner?

  In a French-ass restaurant. Hurry up with my damn croissants, right, Paul?

• 0:53Mary Beth Barone?

  So, we've had so many crazy moments this season.

• 0:56Benito Skinner?

  Wait, Paul, can you, can you shout hurry up with my damn croissants? Okay, so I'll say, "In a French-ass restaurant," and I just want Paul to go, "Hurry up with my damn croissants." "In a French-ass restaurant."

• 1:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Hurry up with my damn croissants.

• 1:08Benito Skinner?

  I love Paul!

• 1:09Mary Beth Barone?

  Paul's so playful.

• 1:10Benito Skinner?

  Paul, you, yeah, you are. You're a good sport.

• 1:13Mary Beth Barone?

  Okay, so we asked our Baronies.

• 1:15Benito Skinner?

  Yes.

• 1:16Mary Beth Barone?

  For some questions.

• 1:17Benito Skinner?

  I know, I, I don't know why, it was just like car chat time. It's like, I want them in the back, we're driving them to suuuuucker practice.

• 1:24Mary Beth Barone?

  I, I thought you were gonna say Subway or Sabaro.

• 1:27Benito Skinner?

  You know that was all of those. I said all of them.

• 1:30Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. Okay, so some questions, burning questions from, from our listeners, dude.

• 1:36Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 1:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Dream fashion purchase?

• 1:39Benito Skinner?

  Oh my God, what a perfect fucking question. You go first.

• 1:43Mary Beth Barone?

  G-Wagon.

• 1:48Benito Skinner?

  Bentley.

• 1:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Are you a Bentley guy?

• 1:51Benito Skinner?

  I'm not a car guy, I don't care about them. Dream fashion, right?

• 1:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, yeah, I just like, dream purchase, I guess.

• 1:56Benito Skinner?

  G-Wagon, G-Wagon came to your...

• 1:58Mary Beth Barone?

  G-Wagon is clothes in a lot of ways.

• 2:00Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, it's, well, it's clothes, of course, it's, um, it's moving clothes.

• 2:03Mary Beth Barone?

  It's moving clothes.

• 2:04Benito Skinner?

  My dream fashion purchase?

• 2:07Mary Beth Barone?

  For Christmas, I bought myself the Louis Vuitton Marikami multi-color white speedy bag from The RealReal. That was one I had on my list for a while.

• 2:15Benito Skinner?

  That's what we like to call a grail.

• 2:16Mary Beth Barone?

  It's a grail.

• 2:17Benito Skinner?

  And so I have a few grails, but you got me one. It was the Jean-Paul Gaultier shirt that Robin Williams wore. Not the actual one he wore, but the, you know, the version

• 2:28Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 2:28Benito Skinner?

  of the body shirt. So I have that. God, you know what? I feel like as far as clothes I kind of want for nothing, I do have a closet that I really love.

• 2:36Mary Beth Barone?

  I guess Chanel flats at some point.

• 2:38Benito Skinner?

  For me, yeah.

• 2:38Mary Beth Barone?

  For you.

• 2:39Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 2:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Size 14.

• 2:40Benito Skinner?

  I love the Dior Dracula bag. Like, I would love to tote that on the set and just be like, "Morning." Oh, and I really loved this old Prada shirt that it was like, it had Cleopatra on it. And it was like, it was called the impossible true love shirt. And it was such a like, I don't know, it just, when it came out, I was like, I've, I've never wanted something more in my life. And I can't ever really find it like new and fresh, but I think maybe after season two, I'll, I'll find her.

• 3:07Mary Beth Barone?

  There's a vintage Cavalli dress that Beyonce wore. I think it might be the actual one that she wore, but I'm not sure. That's in my obsessions on The RealReal that maybe I'll splurge on this year just to wear to something.

• 3:17Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, it's, it's good to have those, those things in the back that you're like, you know what? Maybe, oh, God. No, there is this Dior jacket that's on the road. It was like from the Jack Kerouac collection and it like, I wore it to this event and the back of it was like painted with like a full, oh my God, it was so.

• 3:32Mary Beth Barone?

  Why don't you keep it?

• 3:32Benito Skinner?

  Amazing. I had to give it back. It was a really expensive jacket. But yeah, I guess just like all I would say was a lot, but also none.

• 3:40Mary Beth Barone?

  Were you guys born this funny or did something happen that altered your brain chemistry? That's definitely something that I address in my show, my hour, so.

• 3:49Benito Skinner?

  You have to, yeah.

• 3:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Come and see it.

• 3:51Benito Skinner?

  I love that. You should do that for kind of all of these.

• 3:53Mary Beth Barone?

  For all these questions.

• 3:54Benito Skinner?

  I do address this in my hour, of course.

• 3:56Mary Beth Barone?

  I do address this famously in my hour.

• 3:58Benito Skinner?

  I don't know if I ever felt funny. I always felt very performative and.

• 4:02Mary Beth Barone?

  Fake, I would say.

• 4:03Benito Skinner?

  A fake ass bitch.

• 4:04Mary Beth Barone?

  You, not me.

• 4:05Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, well, of course. I mean, you're so real, Paul.

• 4:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, there's some really good questions.

• 4:13Benito Skinner?

  I think that I, yeah, I, I think I, I did feel the need to overcompensate for feeling maybe unloved and unlovable in school, but mostly I think from school because I just needed to like have a, a something. I needed protection. Like I needed to be quick on my feet.

• 4:29Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 4:30Benito Skinner?

  Maybe that. Nothing from family or anything. I guess I'm like the youngest. So the youngest just is kind of naturally like performative and kind of likes to be the loudest.

• 4:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, I read a book on birth order and it definitely went into that.

• 4:41Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 4:41Mary Beth Barone?

  I don't remember what it was called though.

• 4:42Benito Skinner?

  But I don't know if that made me that funny. I guess my siblings would be like, that wasn't funny. So it was like, I, you know, I was testing things.

• 4:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, I mean, siblings, they are your harshest critics. If you think you're your harshest critic,

• 4:54Benito Skinner?

  Tell that to an older brother.

• 4:56Mary Beth Barone?

  You don't know what your siblings are saying when you're not in the room. Or when you are in the room.

• 4:59Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, or when I'm in the room with them.

• 5:01Mary Beth Barone?

  But I.

• 5:01Benito Skinner?

  With your siblings.

• 5:02Mary Beth Barone?

  With mine. I talked about this a little in Puerto Rico, but I think judging your siblings' decisions is such a special privilege because your friends' decisions you will judge, but you might be more similar to your friends than you would be to your siblings and the choices that you make. And I think just like looking at your siblings and being like, oh, I would never do that.

• 5:19Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, that's so fun. Yeah.

• 5:21Mary Beth Barone?

  I would never do that.

• 5:22Benito Skinner?

  And it's like, we were raised by the same people. Funny. That's crazy.

• 5:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Nature versus nurture in a lot of ways.

• 5:25Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, of course.

• 5:26Mary Beth Barone?

  We are not siblings. It's just gonna say that again.

• 5:29Benito Skinner?

  I think it's finally time we say that on camera. We are not siblings.

• 5:33Mary Beth Barone?

  How are you liking your new prescription?

• 5:35Benito Skinner?

  Me?

• 5:36Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 5:37Benito Skinner?

  It's good so far. I don't know if it's doing that much. I don't know. We'll see.

• 5:41Mary Beth Barone?

  Okay.

• 5:42Benito Skinner?

  We'll see. I mean, I just, I need to see it through. I just started.

• 5:44Mary Beth Barone?

  You have to see it through.

• 5:45Benito Skinner?

  The last thing I'm gonna do is say that it's incredible when I just, I, I wanna make sure that if I'm really advertising this, that it's a, that Doxy's a full court fucking sleigh. And I don't know about that yet. But I, I do have such an itchy nose lately. Like it's just like dry up there. These allergies this winter.

• 6:02Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 6:03Benito Skinner?

  There's more for me to figure out as far as pills are concerned.

• 6:05Mary Beth Barone?

  It's gotta be that winter air. It's gotta be that winter air probably in the nose.

• 6:09Benito Skinner?

  What's the winter air?

• 6:10Mary Beth Barone?

  Someone asked, do you know how Pinky identifies gender and religion and political leanings? So Pinky.

• 6:16Benito Skinner?

  Kabbalah.

• 6:16Mary Beth Barone?

  Pinky is a Kabbalist and, or a Kabbaloo. And she.

• 6:22Benito Skinner?

  She/her.

• 6:22Mary Beth Barone?

  She/her. And she's a lesbian. And I know that because she will not go near a ballistics. Ballistics, if you don't know what that is, you can Google it.

• 6:31Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 6:32Mary Beth Barone?

  And understand why that mean, means she does not, she's not, she actually doesn't like male dogs very much.

• 6:37Benito Skinner?

  She loves gay men.

• 6:39Mary Beth Barone?

  She loves gay men.

• 6:40Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 6:40Mary Beth Barone?

  She has a special relationship with my brother's dog, but I think it's like, it's a situation ship. It's not romantic. It's a romantic.

• 6:45Benito Skinner?

  She's kind of a theater girl.

• 6:47Mary Beth Barone?

  She is a theater girl. Yeah, and she's lesbian.

• 6:50Benito Skinner?

  See that for her, yeah.

• 6:52Mary Beth Barone?

  Best practices for 25 year old mindset in 2026. My thing is like, back when I was 25, I think I was more shameless when it came to like, calling people out over texts and like saying things and not caring if I got a response. I think we need to like go back to that because I think it's just funny to send someone a text and be like, I know you're not going to respond to this like internally, it's your internal dialogue, but you just like say everything that needs to be said.

• 7:16Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I think that's fun.

• 7:18Mary Beth Barone?

  How about we just are fearless this year?

• 7:20Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, let's go into it like guns blazing, ready to just light it up. Titties out, Duddy style.

• 7:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Duddy's.

• 7:27Benito Skinner?

  And that's on that.

• 7:28Mary Beth Barone?

  WWDD, what would Duddy do?

• 7:30Benito Skinner?

  What would Duddy do? Yeah, that's so interesting. That that sounds good to me.

• 7:34Mary Beth Barone?

  Ooh, I just got a crazy question.

• 7:36Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 7:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Favorite burner on a stove? For me, it's front left. It has to be.

• 7:42Benito Skinner?

  A hundred percent front left.

• 7:43Mary Beth Barone?

  But in Puerto Rico, I did back right.

• 7:45Benito Skinner?

  You did do back right, which feels so far away.

• 7:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, it had the most heat and I was making 27 scrambled eggs.

• 7:51Benito Skinner?

  Oh, I loved that. Oh my God, there was this funny photo where it's Mary Beth and there's like 20 egg yolks in a pan. And we were just laughing if she served that to us.

• 8:00Mary Beth Barone?

  Just raw eggs in a bowl.

• 8:01Benito Skinner?

  Gaston's breakfast.

• 8:02Mary Beth Barone?

  It's a Gaston protein breakfast for my big, strong boys.

• 8:06Benito Skinner?

  This is how the boys eat, right?

• 8:08Mary Beth Barone?

  Do you have advi- do you have advice? Do you have advice for the 25 year old mindset? I feel like I cut you off.

• 8:14Benito Skinner?

  The 25 year old mindset? I think keep hope. Hope is dying, but think about those, whoever that Obey artist was that made that thing of Obama that said, hope. I think about that poster a lot and I want it back. I want hope back. I think that you can still have it. It's hard.

• 8:29Benito Skinner?

  Harder to, uh, let me just say it's harder to have hope. I know you can find it because that feels very 25.

• 8:35Mary Beth Barone?

  We need to vote in the midterms.

• 8:37Benito Skinner?

  We gotta.

• 8:37Mary Beth Barone?

  We're gonna be off the air for a bit this year because obviously we're taking a break between seasons, which is our God given, right?

• 8:42Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 8:43Mary Beth Barone?

  So I will be posting about it on my Instagram, but I can't track every good candidate. So it's like, if we want, basically we need to like elect a lot more Democrats so we can impeach Trump. So please just be so locked the fuck in. We just like, I know it sucks and we know way more about the political system than we ever wanted to. But if we have any hope at like saving our country and like so many of the people in it.

• 9:04Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 9:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Especially the vulnerable people.

• 9:06Benito Skinner?

  My president, Mary Beth Barone.

• 9:09Mary Beth Barone?

  And I salute, and I, if these walls could talk, death Romeo.

• 9:12Benito Skinner?

  Of these walls? Oh, you, you, you walking into Congress? If these walls could talk?

• 9:19Mary Beth Barone?

  They'd say?

• 9:20Benito Skinner?

  Paul?

• 9:21Mary Beth Barone?

  He's doing it.

• 9:23Benito Skinner?

  I love you, Paul.

• 9:23Mary Beth Barone?

  Did either of you ever, oh, sorry, death Romeo is first.

• 9:27Benito Skinner?

  Death Romeo?

• 9:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 9:28Benito Skinner?

  I really love Shake Shack randomly.

• 9:31Mary Beth Barone?

  I'd have pizza because I haven't eaten real pizza in a while and like it wouldn't matter if I got.

• 9:35Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, because they'd electrocute you.

• 9:37Mary Beth Barone?

  They'd be, or injection.

• 9:38Benito Skinner?

  I know, I just wanted to say it's the chair. They're giving her the chair. They brought back the chair for you.

• 9:42Mary Beth Barone?

  They had retired the chair. They brought, they brought it back.

• 9:45Benito Skinner?

  For my girl.

• 9:45Mary Beth Barone?

  Because of all that I've done.

• 9:46Benito Skinner?

  Give me that archival chair. Sorry, fuck. Okay, here's my.

• 9:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Article.

• 9:54Benito Skinner?

  That's the article's last piece.

• 9:56Mary Beth Barone?

  We don't believe in corporal punishment.

• 9:58Benito Skinner?

  Obviously not. Oh, my God. And I, that goes, can I, can finally just something go without saying it's that we don't believe in corporal punishment?

• 10:05Mary Beth Barone?

  My answer, no.

• 10:06Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I guess Shake Shack just came to mind, so I'm gonna stick with that.

• 10:09Mary Beth Barone?

  Did either of you collect anything as a kid?

• 10:12Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I collected Harry Potter Legos, which is funny, given the turf Hogwarts of it all. Yeah. Young me apologizes. He would have never done that.

• 10:20Mary Beth Barone?

  Young Menino Skinner issue statement.

• 10:23Benito Skinner?

  Oh my god, Mary Beth did this thing where I was like, this one person like said this thing about me and then they changed their tune. And you said like, Benny drama silences critics at blank appearance. And I laughed about it for days.

• 10:37Mary Beth Barone?

  It's all about headlines, baby. I collected, I mean, I like, I would just, it was trend based, like Beanie Babies. I did have a Pokemon era, I guess, not really.

• 10:48Benito Skinner?

  I guess.

• 10:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Barbies, things like that. I collected Mary Kate and Ashley VHS movies, so.

• 10:52Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I mean, we are who we are. Amen. And also McDonald's toys.

• 10:57Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:57Benito Skinner?

  If I had one, I had to have all of them.

• 10:58Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm trying to think if I missed anything, but I'm sure my family will call me in.

• 11:02Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, of course.

• 11:03Mary Beth Barone?

  What's your fave pod studio you've recorded in?

• 11:07Benito Skinner?

  I really love this one.

• 11:08Mary Beth Barone?

  Melrose feels like home.

• 11:09Benito Skinner?

  And I love the Great British Library. There's something there, there's a magic in those walls. We have good episodes there. I feel it. Cause there's just something, it's like you, it's so easy to pull comedy from it, I guess, cause it's just so like.

• 11:22Mary Beth Barone?

  Wait, you're talking about Gotham Bank?

• 11:24Benito Skinner?

  No, no, no, the Great British Library.

• 11:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. I zoned out. Oh, diva behavior, Benito Skinner walks off set of podcasts. I have a really good one next. Favorite time of day. Sorry if this is boring, but I'm being genuine. This is such a hard question. Holy shit, I don't know.

• 11:43Benito Skinner?

  I think I do have mine.

• 11:44Mary Beth Barone?

  I don't know. I love going to get coffee in the morning.

• 11:46Benito Skinner?

  I know.

• 11:47Mary Beth Barone?

  But I also love going to bed.

• 11:49Benito Skinner?

  Oh, fuck. See, I love 11 and I love like 8:30. I just got killed.

• 11:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Wait, 11 is so cool, cause it's like, it's not midnight yet. Like you can still watch an hour of Frankenstein.

• 11:58Benito Skinner?

  Oh, I was saying 11 a.m.

• 12:00Mary Beth Barone?

  Whoa.

• 12:00Benito Skinner?

  I love 11 a.m. I've done the workout. Now I'm on my laptop. A coffee's hitting. I'm a little manic. I might shop online for 10 seconds, maybe 30 minutes. And then I write college smut.

• 12:13Mary Beth Barone?

  College smut.

• 12:13Benito Skinner?

  Text you and probably FaceTime you around that time.

• 12:15Mary Beth Barone?

  Speaking of smut, Noah, it just says Noah Centineo, show me how you video.

• 12:19Benito Skinner?

  You wanna show me how you? I feel bad that someone's like private sexy stuff. If mine leaked, oh my god.

• 12:28Mary Beth Barone?

  If these, if these.

• 12:29Benito Skinner?

  I go like this.

• 12:30Mary Beth Barone?

  If these nudes could leak.

• 12:34Mary Beth Barone?

  Do you think Pinky can sense paranormal?

• 12:41Benito Skinner?

  You're so dumb. Do you think Pinky can sense paranormal activity?

• 12:46Mary Beth Barone?

  No, I don't think she can. I know.

• 12:48Benito Skinner?

  I know she can. It's like Carrie Bradshaw in Sex and the City. When you watch her eyes, she's seen ghosts.

• 12:53Mary Beth Barone?

  She's seen ghosts.

• 12:54Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 12:54Mary Beth Barone?

  If you had to be one age for the rest of your life, this is the last question. What age would you be? I think probably around where I am now, because I haven't hit the aging cliff. Where you become old so fast, which happens in a few years from now. So I'm told through journalism. AKA an Instagram post.

• 13:10Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 13:11Mary Beth Barone?

  I like this age. I'm like self actualized, but I still like to have fun every now and then too.

• 13:16Benito Skinner?

  I like thirty two. It's really nice to say that I think this age. I feel pretty good in this age.

• 13:20Mary Beth Barone?

  Maybe in Ask Us in a few years, maybe we'll say that age.

• 13:23Benito Skinner?

  I think so too. I mean, aging is such a privilege. Me talking to people.

• 13:26Mary Beth Barone?

  Aging is a privilege.

• 13:28Benito Skinner?

  When they say they got botox.

• 13:29Mary Beth Barone?

  They got a new face.

• 13:30Benito Skinner?

  Age is a privilege.

• 13:31Mary Beth Barone?

  I don't think youth is wasted on the young. I think it's like perfect.

• 13:34Benito Skinner?

  No, you're.

• 13:35Mary Beth Barone?

  Youth happens at the right time.

• 13:36Benito Skinner?

  Completely agree.

• 13:37Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm dispelling shit. Also, did you know that time does not help with grief? I feel worse. I feel so much worse. The further I get from it, the worse I feel.

• 13:45Benito Skinner?

  I've heard that because it's like then you start to forget and then you feel guilty and terrible about the forgetting. You don't have as much to like remember.

• 13:51Mary Beth Barone?

  And the absence, like it just grows. Like you feel it more and more because it's not like, oh, they've just been away for a minute or something. It's like, no, they're gone forever. There are a lot of these things we've been told, like repeated, I guess, to like, help us feel better about moving through the world. But my big statements thus far in 2026. Youth is not wasted on the young. Youth is perfect. And time does not help with grief.

• 14:13Benito Skinner?

  I will say the only one that I've known to be fully true. Is this too shall pass. Paul said that to me on our first date.

• 14:19Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, Paul said that on your first date. Should we get into what you write for?

• 14:23Benito Skinner?

  I think we should. I'm writing for making the decision to not start a business. Sorry, I have a lifesaver and it's delicious.

• 14:28Mary Beth Barone?

  Wait, what is it? Making the decision to not, is that what you said?

• 14:31Benito Skinner?

  Making the decision to not start a business, right?

• 14:35Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, and I'm gonna do having the last word.

• 14:37Benito Skinner?

  These women always police in men's words. What do you want us to say? Are we still allowed to speak?

• 14:43Mary Beth Barone?

  How about sorry?

• 14:46Mary Beth Barone?

  Let's get into Venmo really quick.

• 14:48Benito Skinner?

  Whoa, so I have been a Venmo warrior for probably 12 years? I don't even know. I've had Venmo forever. Sounds like a walk and talk. You know when the money in your Venmo account just kind of lurks? Like it's watching the movie, but not actively participating in the fun commentary the rest of us are all engaged in?

• 15:05Mary Beth Barone?

  It's like, come on, Venmo balance. We gotta do something here and fast.

• 15:09Benito Skinner?

  Yes, exactly. That's why you've got to get the Venmo debit card. I know you saw my ad. Oh, yeah.

• 15:15Mary Beth Barone?

  The Venmo debit card basically invites your balance into the real world. You can use your Venmo balance when someone pays you, which is incredible for someone like me. You know, someone who doesn't want to have to remember to transfer funds or wait three days after, quote, "transfer initiation has begun." I don't know, I guess I'm just kind of different like that.

• 15:31Benito Skinner?

  Also, as a fun little extra, you can get up to 5% cash back when you level up with Venmo Stash at your favorite brands. It's giving financially savvy meets treat yourself.

• 15:42Mary Beth Barone?

  And the best part, there is no monthly fee or minimum balance. Who wants the headache?

• 15:47Benito Skinner?

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• 15:59Mary Beth Barone?

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• 16:02Benito Skinner?

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• 16:22Benito Skinner?

  This episode is brought to you by NoCD. So you've already heard my intro about intrusive thoughts. You guys know what these are and you know that daddy has had them and mommy has supported him through them, that they are ego dystonic, they're not actually what you want to do, and that NoCD is an amazing place to find someone and find a licensed therapist to talk about these with because they are skilled and they have a specialty in OCD. So they're not gonna run to the po-po and tell them what you've been saying, or that you desperately want to stab any drama in the leg, even though I know you don't, you want to hold me in your arms. So using Exposure and Response Prevention Therapy, or ERP, the most proven OCD treatment,

• 17:04Benito Skinner?

  your NoCD therapist can help you take the power away from OCD and distressing thoughts in live face-to-face video therapy sessions. My therapist, sometimes like her husky would be in the background and like, I don't know, he saw my future for sure. And yeah, and I don't know, it's just like, it was so personal and stuff. I don't know, the whole thing, I loved it all. I did it right before first season of overcompensating, so who knows, maybe I'll do it again soon. NoCD also accepts many major insurance plans and offers always on support between sessions. To learn more about therapy with NoCD, go to nocd.com and schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. That's nocd.com to learn more and book a free 15-minute call. NoCD has partnered with us for a while. They did a lot of great things for me and some of you have messaged me about it and

• 17:47Benito Skinner?

  that you've done it and it makes me really happy because it's doing something for yourself, which I think is really powerful. And sometimes just talking about it is like the greatest start, just being able to be honest and open about it. It just takes away the fear and the power of them.

• 18:01Benito Skinner?

  I get to- Señorita!

• 18:08Benito Skinner?

  That's how I start this Super Bowl. Señorita!

• 18:14Benito Skinner?

  Senorita.

• 18:19Benito Skinner?

  Hey, Texas. Senorita.

• 18:23Benito Skinner?

  What do you think?

• 18:24Mary Beth Barone?

  I loved it.

• 18:25Benito Skinner?

  Okay, so, Senorita, this is this THC non-alcoholic beverage company that has got my friend and me by the balls. It is so delicious. It is so fun. And it's just so cool. But yeah, here's the thing. Here's the thing about them. It's vibrant, lush, and endlessly easygoing. This is the grapefruit paloma, which is my personal favorite.

• 18:49Mary Beth Barone?

  Non-alcoholic, low-calorie chill buzz.

• 18:51Benito Skinner?

  Organic agave real juice, fast onset.

• 18:55Mary Beth Barone?

  I went to-

• 18:56Benito Skinner?

  Fast onset.

• 18:56Mary Beth Barone?

  Fast onset. I went to Worcester, Massachusetts to visit my cousins. And I walked in the house, this was about two weeks ago, and before I even got my shoes off, they go, "Well, where's the Senorita?" And I said, "Well, hello to you too."

• 19:12Benito Skinner?

  Hey, ask, take me on a date first, why don't you?

• 19:15Mary Beth Barone?

  But I didn't bring it because we needed, we needed them for the ads today, and I knew if I brought it, then they'd be gone.

• 19:21Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 19:21Mary Beth Barone?

  You know what I-

• 19:22Benito Skinner?

  Sorry, there's something like, if you're bringing Senoritas, you're not leaving with them. Let's just say that, honey. And that's something I've always said. Senoritas are delicious. It's really fun if you don't want to drink alcohol, which I feel like-

• 19:34Mary Beth Barone?

  Sometimes you don't, you're not in the mood.

• 19:35Benito Skinner?

  Also, it's dry January for a lot of people, so it can be dry, but you're also having THC beverages. That feels chill to me.

• 19:40Mary Beth Barone?

  Totally.

• 19:41Benito Skinner?

  And I think there's something about this.

• 19:44Mary Beth Barone?

  This little can.

• 19:45Benito Skinner?

  There's something about-

• 19:45Mary Beth Barone?

  This one little can can change the world.

• 19:47Benito Skinner?

  Little can. Yeah, I just like, literally, every time I have them, I get kind of giggly, as I am now, and they're just kind of delicious, and I love the flavors. They satisfy my, maybe, desire for the taste of an alcoholic beverage, but I don't always want, I don't always want one.

• 20:03Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, you know, that, that thing where it's like, what's more powerful than the sword? It's an idea. What's more powerful than an idea? Senorita.

• 20:11Benito Skinner?

  Senorita. That's so not where I thought you were going with that. I love your brain. I love your brain on Senorita.

• 20:18Mary Beth Barone?

  It just did a little-

• 20:19Benito Skinner?

  I know, well, first, it does a little doo.

• 20:21Mary Beth Barone?

  A little doo. So for- For, ooh, it's hitting. For a better buzz without the booze, check out senoritadrinks.com. Find Senorita and any of their four delicious flavors at Drink Senorita. Why am I saying that? It's senoritadrinks.com. Have I been saying drinksenorita.com?

• 20:38Benito Skinner?

  No, but it's, they're gonna find it. That's my thing.

• 20:42Mary Beth Barone?

  But have I been saying that?

• 20:43Benito Skinner?

  No, I don't think so. You're gonna find drinkseñorita.com.

• 20:46Mary Beth Barone?

  It's señoritadrinks.com.

• 20:47Benito Skinner?

  It's señoritadrinks.com.

• 20:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Uh, your cabana awaits. Visit señoritadrinks.com to get these delicious THC mugs shipped right to your door. Must be 21 plus. Please enjoy responsibly.

• 20:56Benito Skinner?

  Summer isn't over yet.

• 20:58Mary Beth Barone?

  My cousin's calling. She just asked if I could pick up some margarita from Señorita Margarita.

• 21:02Benito Skinner?

  Bite yourself, bitch, at señoritadrinks.com.

• 21:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Must be 21 plus. And then it goes without saying, please enjoy responsibly. Wait, where are we going?

• 21:12Benito Skinner?

  Who cares? Ride! There comes a time in every white man's life where he must look in the mirror at himself and think, "I have this idea, but I'm not going to get a patent on it."

• 21:26Benito Skinner?

  I really think more white men should think about it and just say, "Maybe it's not for me." I recently had the idea of like, "I loved these pants and I couldn't find them anywhere." And I was like, "Should I make them?" And then I looked in the mirror and I thought, "Fuck no. There are so many pants on earth. I don't need to contribute more pants."

• 21:48Mary Beth Barone?

  You know what I'm gonna ask you to talk about?

• 21:50Benito Skinner?

  What? I literally can't. I literally can't. I, oh my god, uh, fuck. That's the problem with this podcast. We have to go out in the world and like, people know. Yeah, I wish I could tell my kids everything. If you catch us in an airport,

• 22:09Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, the things I've revealed on stage at stand-up.

• 22:12Benito Skinner?

  It's incredible.

• 22:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 22:13Benito Skinner?

  A flight attendant on Delta recently was like, asked me a bunch of questions. I just went off.

• 22:17Mary Beth Barone?

  I'll tell you anything.

• 22:17Benito Skinner?

  I said, "Tip to taint, start from the top. What do you want? What do you want to know?"

• 22:21Mary Beth Barone?

  Person to person, which is also the series finale, the name of the series finale of Mad Men, Person to Person. Person to person, all reveal all.

• 22:28Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I was like giving like, full script secrets from overcompensating season two to people. I'm like, "Well, if it leaks, I don't know where to find you."

• 22:35Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, and she'll be in the skies.

• 22:37Benito Skinner?

  Well, of course, spreading the good news. But I just think maybe there are too many businesses that exist. And I'm not talking about local artisans, mom and pop shops. I love all of those. I'm talking more just like specifically this type of like, tech bro-y, like-

• 22:57Benito Skinner?

  Startup-y kinda thing that just like we didn't need, you know what I mean?

• 23:02Mary Beth Barone?

  I overheard someone say that was like, well, I don't think we should put the stock price in the deck. What do you think? I think we should just like, we should, and I was just like, I'm hearing this on the phone. It's like, I'm on my way. Where was I even going this morning? I literally don't remember where I went this morning.

• 23:13Benito Skinner?

  Where are we?

• 23:14Mary Beth Barone?

  I went to get a haircut and I was just hearing him talking and I was like, I hope your business is like helping reduce carbon emissions or something. But it's probably not.

• 23:22Benito Skinner?

  No, it's not.

• 23:23Mary Beth Barone?

  You know my whole thing.

• 23:24Benito Skinner?

  I'm sure it's making more.

• 23:25Mary Beth Barone?

  I know we have way too many businesses, cause as I've stated before, on the subway, they advertise B to B, business to business. Like they're advertising like HR platforms on the subway. It's like, there should not be enough people that would need that on the subway. You should not feel like that's useful marketing. That should be in like a newsletter for like virgins.

• 23:44Benito Skinner?

  But there are for virgins, exactly. Here's the thing, I just think like, I ride for this because it is a choice and we all have to realize that. And I'm not saying like everybody's business is bad, like I, a lot of them, I'm like, hell yeah, that's.

• 23:59Mary Beth Barone?

  Some are totally necessary.

• 24:00Benito Skinner?

  Some are totally necessary and some are totally fabulous. I just think, think about if it really is needed.

• 24:07Mary Beth Barone?

  If we need it, or if your expertise could be used on something that we already have that could improve.

• 24:11Benito Skinner?

  Like Benny Drama's pleated pant. I don't know if we need that business, but maybe some of you, I mean, I'm looking at Paul right now and he's kinda like, shit, I'd preorder.

• 24:20Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, we're not, we're not saying either that we would never do a collab in the future, but I think starting a business, my thing when I get into thinking about it, even with merch, which I'm launching tour merch and I'm like, I just don't want to be creating waste and I think like.

• 24:32Benito Skinner?

  You're so Cruella when merch samples come in. You're like, hack it in the middle. Cut off the sleeve, the neck's too wide, Anita.

• 24:41Mary Beth Barone?

  Anita's a dog.

• 24:44Benito Skinner?

  Those puppies. That bullshit nanny, she gave those puppies away.

• 24:49Mary Beth Barone?

  House manager.

• 24:49Benito Skinner?

  Quick. Wait.

• 24:52Mary Beth Barone?

  She was the house manager. But I just think as your footprint grows, you know, as an entity, I think you will be probably approached to like launch a skincare, launch makeup, or launch this stuff. I'm like, I would love to stay. I want to stay. That's what I'm in, and I like it.

• 25:07Benito Skinner?

  I would amplify also people. It's like, I'm, I'm a writer, actor, comedian, I'll see hyphenate. Like, that's what I do. Like, that's me. Like, that's what I do. That's my lane. So if it was something skincare, I would do like a collab with someone. I would never start my own. I'm, I don't have, I'm like, no, no, no, leave it to the professionals. It's like makeup brands. I'm like, leave it to the makeup artists.

• 25:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, so much of that stuff is like white label, and so they're just, it's the same stuff you could buy from other brands. It just has their name on it.

• 25:31Benito Skinner?

  It's bullshit.

• 25:32Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, I wanted to find this quote about, and I've already talked about, Miley Cyrus talking about why she didn't start a business, and she's just like, it's just, I'm not passionate about these things. Like, I just find it hard to believe that everyone that's launched a makeup brand, it's because they're like super passionate about like filling a space in the market that's not currently being served. Because what you're doing is like, maybe you're creating jobs, but like you're also creating so much waste.

• 25:54Benito Skinner?

  I know. And it's like, yeah, I think that's my one, that's one tricky part of this caveat. It's like, obviously, I want, I want jobs. I want, you know, I want people to be able to afford their lives and, and their wants and needs. But yeah, it's just, I guess it's specifically straight white men coming up with some bullshit. I don't need your, I don't need your bullshit.

• 26:13Mary Beth Barone?

  Hey, we have enough of it. We've got enough of it.

• 26:16Benito Skinner?

  The world was literally built and made for you. I know you can find a job elsewhere.

• 26:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Please, or live off your parents' money.

• 26:21Benito Skinner?

  But I guess if it does consume their days so that they don't hit you, I'm like, maybe I want them to work on the deck. It's just hard. I guess you're finding me. I'm, I'm trying to find the investment here.

• 26:31Mary Beth Barone?

  Life's a give and take.

• 26:32Benito Skinner?

  But I just, I ride that, I can look in the mirror and know that like, it's just not for me. I'm not starting a business.

• 26:38Mary Beth Barone?

  You are not going to be putting together financial assessments of anything.

• 26:42Benito Skinner?

  Nah.

• 26:43Mary Beth Barone?

  Or approving them.

• 26:44Benito Skinner?

  No, it's not looking good. No.

• 26:46Mary Beth Barone?

  I think it's big of you. It's hubris.

• 26:48Benito Skinner?

  You think so?

• 26:48Mary Beth Barone?

  I think it's hubris.

• 26:49Benito Skinner?

  It's crazy to have a last name Skinner and not do anything in the skincare industry.

• 26:53Mary Beth Barone?

  But I think like, you found what you want to do and you're doing it.

• 26:56Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. Production companies don't count. I already asked.

• 26:58Mary Beth Barone?

  No, of course, of course. Production companies, that's like different. I mean, we're being creative and like, we're telling, we're storytellers.

• 27:04Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, exactly. And that's my job. I'm like, I, ah, it's like. Leave it to the pros, my good sis, and let them shine. That too.

• 27:12Mary Beth Barone?

  I find it odd too, when I'm thinking like, some of these people that are starting companies, I'm like, but do you use the product?

• 27:17Benito Skinner?

  Well, I'm just like, if you're truly passionate about it, you can feel that. But like, some people, I'm just like, oh, you just came, like, you just thought of a product and then found like a random manufacturer. And now it's like, yeah, there was this one dancer who dances for the Moulin Rouge, whom I'm obsessed with on TikTok. And she has this company that's like, it's essentially like a some kind of like cool down or like warm up garment. It's kind of like big overalls that you would like wear. And so I'm like, that is like specific. There's something about that that feels, oh no, when they come from women, I love it.

• 27:47Mary Beth Barone?

  You know what is a need, I think that I have heard is not being filled is underwear for trans people.

• 27:53Benito Skinner?

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:53Mary Beth Barone?

  Like specific to trans people's needs. And so I would say if there's someone that is really passionate about that, that wants to actually solve a problem that we have currently.

• 28:02Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, in the market, a gap in the market. Yeah.

• 28:03Mary Beth Barone?

  Let her rip, absolutely.

• 28:05Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, that's, hey, please.

• 28:07Mary Beth Barone?

  Hey, the need is there. The market's there. Let's make it happen.

• 28:10Benito Skinner?

  Another fucking bullshit company where it's like a, a guy, the white t-shirt needed a little refresh.

• 28:21Benito Skinner?

  No, it fucking did it.

• 28:22Mary Beth Barone?

  Hey, you found your sparkle. You found your sparkle again.

• 28:26Benito Skinner?

  Really?

• 28:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, I just saw it.

• 28:28Benito Skinner?

  That's so crazy. I just got chills.

• 28:31Mary Beth Barone?

  I just watched it.

• 28:32Benito Skinner?

  But you know what I mean? The white t-shirt never really sat well with me. I'm like, oh, yeah? It didn't? It's that, it's like tank top brands. It's like, God, it's fucking crazy. And like, oh my God, a company that I'm like, hell yeah, is the one saving face. And there's practitioner. She started it because she couldn't find this thing in the market. That's so beautiful. Women, I want more women companies. I don't need any more.

• 28:58Mary Beth Barone?

  More women and more LGBTQ owned properties.

• 29:01Benito Skinner?

  1,000%. I would love that. I want us to own everything.

• 29:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Rich texted us because his friend has a apartment in Toronto. I'm gonna quote myself here.

• 29:10Benito Skinner?

  Okay, here's the thing. This thing happens sometimes where someone, I'm in a thread with Mary Beth, and I'm just, I am waiting. I'm just sitting there looking at the bubbles, waiting for my girl to drop a. Like, I know she's, I'm like, I know she's percolating. She just got to her laptop.

• 29:27Mary Beth Barone?

  I was getting my hair done. I had to pee and then I was ready to tap it.

• 29:31Benito Skinner?

  This is a perfect response. Go. You have to say it. It's so fucking good.

• 29:37Mary Beth Barone?

  All the actors know where we're living in Toronto. We already know. At least I do. So he sends this link, which is a beautiful apartment. And he was like, yeah, I just thought I'd offer it to all you guys, just to help my friend out. I said, yes, spread the word. I also own many properties in major cities. It's a hassle.

• 29:54Benito Skinner?

  It's like a whole, it's a whole reggae morale. Sucks.

• 29:57Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm sorry. Like, it's such a pain. And that's what they don't tell you about owning property.

• 30:01Benito Skinner?

  It's something about straight guys. They just have stuff like that. Where they're like, I have this apartment in Toronto. I gotta rent out. It's like, you have what?

• 30:08Mary Beth Barone?

  Wait, why?

• 30:09Benito Skinner?

  Wait, why'd you get that? Why do you have that?

• 30:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Why?

• 30:13Benito Skinner?

  I love a good origin story. And Brooklyn Bedding has one of my favorites. John, the founder, literally built this company from the ground up in Arizona, totally hot state, without a college degree, just pure grit and intentional craftsmanship. You can actually feel that pride in every stitch of their mattresses. Which, can I say, in my new apartment in New York City? I have a Brooklyn Bedding mattress.

• 30:38Mary Beth Barone?

  It's so totally fabulous. Do you know what I love about? Ow, Pinky.

• 30:45Benito Skinner?

  Pinky just bit your scalp.

• 30:47Mary Beth Barone?

  No, she put her paw on it. She wants me to pet her. Brooklyn Bedding handcrafts every mattress in their Arizona factory. No middlemen, no gimmicks, just top-tier quality, honest pricing, and real American craftsmanship for a better night's sleep. Brooklyn Bedding knows sleep isn't one size fits all. That's why they offer mattresses for everybody, every sleep style, even in hard-to-find sizes. I'm not even gonna ask what you're laughing about. Not sure what mattress is right for you? Just take the Brooklyn Bedding Sleep Quiz and find your perfect match in under two minutes.

• 31:16Benito Skinner?

  Hi, I'm Betty. I'm from Brooklyn, Arizona.

• 31:21Benito Skinner?

  Think of the layers of that joke. Brooklyn Bedding is one of the few mattress brands endorsed by the American Chiropractic Association for spinal alignment and back health. Plus, they're 100% fiberglass free for peace of mind. No fiberglass in my booty cheeks. Trust. Brooklyn Bedding also offers 120 night comfort trial. Love it, or they'll help you return it or swap it.

• 31:43Mary Beth Barone?

  Go to brooklynbedding.com and use our promo code RIDE at checkout to get 30% off site wide. That's a lot. These mattresses are like, I mean, this, you sleep on it every night. This offer is not available anywhere else. That's brooklynbedding.com and promo code RIDE for 30% off site wide. Support our show and let them know we sent you after checkout. brooklynbedding.com promo code RIDE. Nutraful is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand trusted by over one and a half million people.

• 32:10Benito Skinner?

  I'm a brand bitch. I'm a brand. That's Nutraful.

• 32:14Mary Beth Barone?

  Their formulations are designed to target key root causes of thinning, things like stress hormones, nutrition and aging, all based on your life stage, including formulas tailored for postpartum and menopause. Nutraful's hair growth supplements are peer reviewed, NSF certified for sport and clinically tested to measure improvements in growth quality and strength.

• 32:33Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, no, that's just so true. So Nutraful is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand trusted by over one and a half million people, you guys. Do you get that?

• 32:44Mary Beth Barone?

  It's crazy.

• 32:45Benito Skinner?

  And Sebastian Stan. I think we already said it in an ad, but we saw him and it's thick.

• 32:51Mary Beth Barone?

  The hair was so thick.

• 32:52Benito Skinner?

  I went up to him, I said, "Your hair is so thick."

• 32:55Mary Beth Barone?

  You grabbed his hair and you put your fingers through it.

• 32:57Benito Skinner?

  And I said, "You look at my girl again the wrong way, baby. It ain't gonna end so well."

• 33:01Mary Beth Barone?

  And it's curtains. Well, and he said, "Are you from Queer as Folk? See thicker, stronger, faster, the reboot? Growing hair with less shedding in just three to six months with Nutraful for a limited time. Nutraful is offering our listeners, that's right, you baronies, $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to nutrafol.com and enter the promo code RIDE. Find out why Nutraful is the best selling hair growth supplement brand at nutrafol.com, spelled N-U-T-R-A-F-O-L dot com, promo code RIDE. That's nutrafol.com promo code RIDE.

• 33:31Benito Skinner?

  Enough. This is my prayer.

• 33:34Mary Beth Barone?

  This is my prayer. And I'll die believing this is free as my hell.

• 33:39Benito Skinner?

  Hell, hell, hell. Nature fall.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  A new documentary film from Paris Hilton.

• 33:47Speaker 05

  I've loved music ever since I was a little girl. What's your name again? Hallard Doolittle. Paris. I think when people would see me out at night, they just saw this carefree girl. I knew somewhere deep down that if I listened to all those hateful comments out there in the world, that I would never recover. So I decided to own the narrative.

• 34:06Speaker 04

  Paris Hilton's Infinite Icon, a visual memoir, playing only in theaters January 30th. Get your tickets now.

• 34:14Mary Beth Barone?

  Speaking of shutting down group chats.

• 34:16Benito Skinner?

  Mm hmm.

• 34:17Mary Beth Barone?

  Sort of gets into what I ride for.

• 34:18Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 34:19Mary Beth Barone?

  So I ride for having the last word. I was doing a lot of reflecting and introspection.

• 34:25Benito Skinner?

  You have it, babe.

• 34:26Mary Beth Barone?

  I think I do as well. I think if I do another comedy special, God willing, knock on wood, I would call it the last. Or I guess maybe my last special would be called The Last Word. So maybe the next one, who knows?

• 34:35Benito Skinner?

  How would you know?

• 34:36Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm not sure.

• 34:36Benito Skinner?

  Such a good point.

• 34:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Such a good point. So I was trying to figure out why I like to bring up people's comments on the podcast and, and, and speak to them and respond to them. And I think it's because I really like having the last word. And it just feels like if I bring it up on here and we could speak directly to it, to like the most number of people, then that's me like saying, well, that's the period at the end of that interaction.

• 35:01Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, of course.

• 35:02Mary Beth Barone?

  My aunt, my Aunt Vicky, she used to live in upstate Connecticut and sometimes she would have to do business in Stanford, which is where I grew up. And so I had a room with two beds, obviously, because I'm a little, I was a princess, but not in the way that like everyone thinks.

• 35:18Benito Skinner?

  You know what? Princess doesn't always have to be bad.

• 35:20Mary Beth Barone?

  No, it doesn't.

• 35:20Benito Skinner?

  It's a prince a pisa.

• 35:21Mary Beth Barone?

  I had a princess bed and then I had a queen sized bed.

• 35:23Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 35:24Mary Beth Barone?

  And so my, when my Aunt Vicky would come to do business in Stanford, she, wait, interesting, princess and queen. I just thought of that.

• 35:31Benito Skinner?

  You understand that?

• 35:31Mary Beth Barone?

  I just, that's really cool.

• 35:32Benito Skinner?

  Something very like, yeah.

• 35:34Mary Beth Barone?

  So when she would come and stay at our house, she would stay in my room in the bigger bed. And we would talk at night, you know, a little pillow talk. It was so fun. And she taught me what the last word was because sometimes you're having a sleepover with someone and you're like, okay, I'm, I actually like kind of legally need to go to bed now. You just say last word.

• 35:49Benito Skinner?

  Oh, see, immediately in my body, I go. Midnight.

• 35:53Mary Beth Barone?

  No, you can't. You have to respect the sanctity of last word.

• 35:58Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I guess.

• 35:58Mary Beth Barone?

  So I think, and you know, that concept is so powerful to me. It's just like having a last word. That's the end of conversation, end of story. And I do think that maybe contributes to loving this. Maybe contributes to that mentality of like, I like being a stand up. I like saying what I want to say and how I feel and these things that I feel I really need to say. And the response is like, it's laughing. It's not like you can't argue.

• 36:24Benito Skinner?

  This is so fabulous. Sometimes I feel like I've gone maybe, I'm, I, I think I'm more on the last word than I used to be. I used to not really say anything, but now I'm kind of like, no.

• 36:35Mary Beth Barone?

  I've watched you actually.

• 36:36Benito Skinner?

  Really?

• 36:36Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. I just see the way you move in business lately. And I just think it's like, well, we're going to do it this way. This is what I want to do.

• 36:43Benito Skinner?

  Less apologetic, I think. I think it's something of, you know, again, this, I, I've been trying to adapt this, uh, straight male mentality where they're just kind of like, no, this is it. And I'm like, I don't think you'd question this room as much if we were straight dudes.

• 36:58Mary Beth Barone?

  I said no to two things this year already.

• 37:00Benito Skinner?

  That's amazing.

• 37:01Mary Beth Barone?

  Like someone tried to move a meeting and the, when they wanted to move it to, I just, I couldn't do it. And instead of bending over backwards and like doing gymnastics to try to make it work. I was just like, I actually have to keep the original time. I'm so sorry.

• 37:11Benito Skinner?

  And I'm finding that like, people don't really, they're like, oh, yeah, okay. Like, I don't know, there's something about it where I just like, I always think, and I think this is common with like queer people and women. I hope, at least I think is like, just feeling like we're always in trouble. Like we'll always be in trouble or that someone will like replace us or get rid of us in like a day.

• 37:28Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 37:29Benito Skinner?

  Which they might, but at the same time, it's like, no.

• 37:32Mary Beth Barone?

  So I think we can employ this more. And obviously I love the back and forth in a group chat. I just, that one was funny because it was like, it was like really lit up for a few minutes. And then I was just like, yeah, I'm going to say this and good luck responding.

• 37:45Benito Skinner?

  No, I'm sorry. I just like, I think I hearted it. I was just like, you know, I'm like, that's kind of it on that. But like, it was great catching up with all you. I'll see you really soon. Something about it too, that I think feisty.

• 37:57Mary Beth Barone?

  I think it's Gemini mentality.

• 37:59Benito Skinner?

  It's Gemini mentality. It's a little Scorpio mentality too, though. It's a little bit like, but I think it doesn't always have to be bad. It's just kind of like, maybe you didn't think I would respond, but I'm gonna.

• 38:09Mary Beth Barone?

  No, I don't. I think it might have a negative connotation, but I don't see it as a negative at all.

• 38:13Benito Skinner?

  I also feel it as there's a spirit to it, but it's not like if someone then responded, you wouldn't. It's like, almost, it's like your own last word.

• 38:21Mary Beth Barone?

  And oh, if there was a response, honey, I could go all day.

• 38:25Benito Skinner?

  Okay, so not that. It is like you will get the last word.

• 38:29Mary Beth Barone?

  And, and can I say something? When I don't get the last word, think about why that might be. Let that hang in the air.

• 38:36Benito Skinner?

  I agree.

• 38:37Mary Beth Barone?

  If, because my other thing is that I'm extremely empathetic in group chats, as I've talked about before on the podcast. I don't like to leave people hanging, so I like to respond and make people feel seen and heard and all that stuff. So if I'm actually not saying anything, what does that tell you?

• 38:50Benito Skinner?

  My thing that I really want to say, every now and then I get like what I want to write as a caption. That's my little treat to myself in writing the show. I'm like, oh my God, I have a caption. I'm gonna say, I finished writing overcompensating. If I didn't text you back the last few months, take it personally.

• 39:03Mary Beth Barone?

  Absolutely.

• 39:04Benito Skinner?

  Please make sure.

• 39:04Mary Beth Barone?

  You have time.

• 39:06Benito Skinner?

  I had so much time. Please make me feel as bad about it as humanly possible and like try to cut me out of your life because of it.

• 39:13Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 39:13Benito Skinner?

  You are the victim in this.

• 39:15Mary Beth Barone?

  You are a victim. You are valid and have a nice life, I guess.

• 39:20Benito Skinner?

  I'm like, you don't even want my last word. I'm too tired. But yeah, I think this is fabulous. I think it's sexy too.

• 39:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 39:26Benito Skinner?

  There's something very sexy. I don't know if I do it as much as you, but you're an inspiration to all us gay guys.

• 39:34Mary Beth Barone?

  Have the last words. See how it feels.

• 39:36Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. I think there's a few things coming up that I'll have the last word on.

• 39:39Mary Beth Barone?

  I think so too.

• 39:41Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 39:41Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. I think it's really cool with what we do as we've talked about. I know I feel like I keep saying we've talked about it before. I do forget most of the things we say on the podcast. So when I remember we've repeated ourselves, I'm like, oh, I hope they're not bored. But in what we do for work, which is like storytelling, we can take things that have actually happened to us and fictionalize them in any way that we want to. And in many ways, unless they made sort of a response project, a project in reaction to. That's the last word on that.

• 40:08Benito Skinner?

  A hundred. I was kind of saying like, overcompensating is, season two does have a lot of my last words on, on plenty of things. And I'm kind of like, that's the statement. That's what I was saying.

• 40:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Thank you.

• 40:19Benito Skinner?

  It's a movie. But maybe it's not.

• 40:21Mary Beth Barone?

  Maybe it's not.

• 40:22Benito Skinner?

  No, you know what I love and I actually want on record? Because I really want to get on the record.

• 40:26Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, we're not on the record enough.

• 40:28Benito Skinner?

  I agree. Get me on there.

• 40:31Benito Skinner?

  How do I get on there?

• 40:31Mary Beth Barone?

  Two hundred hours on the record.

• 40:33Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, no, it's like, it's too mu- in fact, we have to stop recording. I will say, season two is like so kind of like not my life in a way, which I'm, it has been so fun to write. Like, I think season one had, as far as my coming out, it has like a lot of parallels of me coming out. But everything else in it is so, it's like-

• 40:51Mary Beth Barone?

  It's fantastical.

• 40:52Benito Skinner?

  It's fantastical. It's magical realism.

• 40:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 40:54Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, which is really fun. I don't know. That's, because I've been asked that a couple of times and I'm like, no, it's, it really isn't sticking to-

• 41:00Mary Beth Barone?

  But you know what I say? Let them talk.

• 41:02Benito Skinner?

  Of course. I love hearing this. And, uh, my girl have last word.

• 41:08Mary Beth Barone?

  You know what you are, Benny?

• 41:09Benito Skinner?

  Hmm, a [BLEEP]?

• 41:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Your words, not mine. Babe, you're my ride or die.

• 41:14Benito Skinner?

  Ride or die.

• 41:16Mary Beth Barone?

  I ride for making the decision to not start a business. It's a decision that we are actively making every single day.

• 41:23Benito Skinner?

  So is Paul. Paul, do you have a business?

• 41:25Mary Beth Barone?

  What is it? Oh, that's not the-

• 41:27Benito Skinner?

  That doesn't count. I'm talking about selling products.

• 41:30Mary Beth Barone?

  If you have a skill, that's not, that doesn't count.

• 41:32Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 41:32Mary Beth Barone?

  If you, if you're a skilled worker-

• 41:34Benito Skinner?

  That's completely different.

• 41:35Mary Beth Barone?

  As well, so-

• 41:36Benito Skinner?

  Completely different. I'm talking like you are selling me belts.

• 41:40Mary Beth Barone?

  You're selling me belts, but the cowhide was like from-

• 41:44Benito Skinner?

  Don't sell me on it.

• 41:45Mary Beth Barone?

  Okay, okay, stop, stop.

• 41:46Benito Skinner?

  This might be the launch.

• 41:49Benito Skinner?

  Belts by Drama. I couldn't find a good belt.

• 41:53Mary Beth Barone?

  You have always said that.

• 41:54Benito Skinner?

  I can't find, how do I keep my pants up? Can't find a good belt.

• 41:59Mary Beth Barone?

  You can't, you have to buy bigger pants because of that dunk?

• 42:01Benito Skinner?

  I know, I have to tie this, I know. It's like crazy to have this waist.

• 42:05Mary Beth Barone?

  There's some baseball player that's like, they call him the dumper or something.

• 42:08Benito Skinner?

  He's got a wagon like me?

• 42:09Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, but I can't remember his name. Some funny mouse.

• 42:11Benito Skinner?

  Seth's calling it a wagon.

• 42:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, me too.

• 42:13Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. I said it to my brother-in-law. I said to my brother-in-law, because my brother-in-law's kind of got a wagon on him too. And I kept saying it over Christmas and we, we had a lot of fun laughing about it. It was really a good, Merry Christmas, by the way.

• 42:26Mary Beth Barone?

  That just made me think of this for some reason, which is that we are trying to see how bad we can look on the podcast. We've reached new depths this season. I think season four, we do full glam every episode.

• 42:36Benito Skinner?

  I'm not kidding. Glam team, glam team, I'm pulling for everything.

• 42:40Mary Beth Barone?

  But we need to do two at a time if we do that.

• 42:43Benito Skinner?

  Done.

• 42:43Mary Beth Barone?

  That's the deal.

• 42:44Benito Skinner?

  I think it should be like our glamour post season.

• 42:46Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 42:46Benito Skinner?

  This is like, it's very stripped. Although today, for some reason, because of the tan, I think like I, I don't know.

• 42:53Mary Beth Barone?

  Can I say something?

• 42:54Benito Skinner?

  Paul, do I look handsome, maybe? Yeah.

• 42:57Mary Beth Barone?

  The way, okay, the way this tank top sits and then I'm wearing a shirt over it, it makes me look more flat-chested than ever.

• 43:03Benito Skinner?

  You're flat-chested.

• 43:04Mary Beth Barone?

  It's like kind of crazy. It's actually just doing so much to like, it's like, almost like a binder, you know? It's like binding what's not even there. It's pretty fabulous. And that's the statement I'm making today.

• 43:14Benito Skinner?

  Look how tan I am.

• 43:15Mary Beth Barone?

  Whoa, whoa.

• 43:17Benito Skinner?

  Sorry. Oh, sorry. I don't feel comfortable doing that.

• 43:21Mary Beth Barone?

  Do you ride for having the last word?

• 43:22Benito Skinner?

  I ride for having the last word. I don't get it often, but when I do, I love it. Mi amore. And I will say, I love watching you get the last word because I don't think women get it enough.

• 43:31Mary Beth Barone?

  And I get a witness.

• 43:33Benito Skinner?

  Why don't you be my witness?

• 43:35Mary Beth Barone?

  Looking for a witness in all this. And I know the person that gave me this shirt in Toronto did not think it was going to be featured in not one but two episodes of the podcast.

• 43:44Benito Skinner?

  I know. I was thinking, I don't think I've worn this shirt before, but I might have done the camo one recently. There's just, yeah, speaking of how just butt ugly we look, and I would say about three episodes, it's the one that came out recently in my head.

• 43:59Mary Beth Barone?

  I actually took a clip down that I had posted.

• 44:01Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I don't, can you make sure to not post them anywhere near where I'll see them? Because I just don't need to see that.

• 44:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 44:07Benito Skinner?

  I go into hibernation mode in the writers' room, but I'm starting to claw out and be an actor again.

• 44:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Also, we can't do glam every time we record. We are just, we're human, we're human.

• 44:16Benito Skinner?

  I know, my skin doesn't love makeup either.

• 44:17Mary Beth Barone?

  We can't do glam every time we record until season four.

• 44:21Benito Skinner?

  Until season four, which we cannot wait for.

• 44:23Mary Beth Barone?

  One more episode.

• 44:24Benito Skinner?

  We love you so much. I know it's going to be tough, but there's so many, there's so much content of us out there. Watch overcompensating again. Start from the top.

• 44:31Mary Beth Barone?

  Watch the fan cams.

• 44:32Benito Skinner?

  We, we've layered. We know how Ride ends from the first episode, so just very much like J.K. Rowling turf. But if you start it, you'll know.

• 44:41Mary Beth Barone?

  Also, can I just say?

• 44:42Benito Skinner?

  You'll find so many new things.

• 44:44Mary Beth Barone?

  Baroni HQ is doing such an amazing job at keeping our girls.

• 44:50Benito Skinner?

  Engaged, engorged, and in love.

• 44:52Mary Beth Barone?

  And in love. And I would say if you want some really quality content on TikTok, at overcompensatingFR, they do.

• 44:59Mary Beth Barone?

  Ride the pot out of context. They're posting fan cams from overcompensating. They're posting about the merch. I love the work they're doing over there. So thank you so much to all the people out there who are helping enhance this community. We love you so goddamn much.

• 45:13Benito Skinner?

  Let's say it into camera. We love you so much. We love you. One, two, three.

• 45:18Mary Beth Barone?

  We love you so goddamn much. And when we're off, like when we have the hiatus from the show, just like let us know how we can support you. Cause we're going to be doing other stuff. We still have time for the fans.

• 45:27Benito Skinner?

  We have a special to tape. I'll just be there. I'm producing, but I'll just be there. And we have such a fun season of television to shoot. I cannot wait for you to see it. I love the script so much. Daddy's working real hard.

• 45:41Benito Skinner?

  Oh, my exit.

• 45:42Mary Beth Barone?

  Benny, babe, eyes on the road. Benny, go!

• 45:55Speaker 06

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