The Snack: Fyre Festival 2, Bodyguard App, and White Lotus Tea

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Elon Musk's "5 things" email and the trolling that ensued Our own productivity reports Fyre Festival is back (for real) Rihanna teases new album The Bodyguard app White Lotus meets Southern Charm Love is Blind recaps and tea Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Cornbread Hemp: Get 30% off your first order at https://cornbreadhemp.com/gge with code GGE. Helix: Get 27% off at https://helixsleep.com/gge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome to the snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat.

• 0:04Rayna Greenberg?

  This is a Dear Media production.

• 0:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Enjoy.

• 0:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi.

• 0:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome to the end of the week.

• 0:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  End of the month.

• 0:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Great.

• 0:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's the way March comes up, you're like, oh, my God, it's March 1st.

• 0:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I feel like-

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, it comes out of nowhere.

• 0:22Rayna Greenberg?

  February didn't come out of nowhere.

• 0:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  February couldn't come quick enough.

• 0:26Rayna Greenberg?

  February, January was eight weeks. February, boop, it's over.

• 0:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  But isn't so, it's just February, what a weird little month. You know, like, all of a sudden, it's the 28th, and all of a sudden, it's the 1st. Okay. Hot take, you guys.

• 0:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I want to look up who planned the months, because, like, every month is 30 or 31 days. And somebody was like, I have an idea. Let's be, let's do 28 days for February.

• 0:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it makes me feel like they just didn't count right. And they were like, fuck, this one month has to be shorter, like, to fit the calendar. I don't know. Do you know any February birthdays?

• 0:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Do we have any birthdays this month?

• 1:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm trying to think- My grandma, rest in peace, was a Valentine's Day birthday.

• 1:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm trying to think-

• 1:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I don't think I celebrated-

• 1:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I did not text one person, happy birthday this month. That doesn't mean there weren't birthdays.

• 1:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I forget everyone's birthday, since I don't have Facebook.

• 1:12Rayna Greenberg?

  You tell me there's people's birthdays.

• 1:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I try to keep you in the loop, because I know, like, I'll be like, Rena, text this person their birthday. Text this person, someone died. Like, I try to keep you on task. No, like, if it's more my friend, but it's your friend, too.

• 1:26Rayna Greenberg?

  You always tell me it's your family's birthday, and then I have to tell my dad when it's my brother's birthday and my birthday.

• 1:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  You do? Dad is my birthday?

• 1:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I give him, like, a runway. I'm like, my birthday is coming up.

• 1:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Seven days.

• 1:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Seriously?

• 1:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, and it's so funny, because my brother, me, and my mom are all born on the 17th. And so, like, it's not hard to remember it.

• 1:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, really?

• 1:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. 17th of June, August, and November.

• 1:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's kind of crazy.

• 1:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, mine is me, my dad, and my brother are all within, what, a 12-day window? July 7th, 9th, and 19th.

• 1:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh.

• 2:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  So my mom's, you know, she's busy in July.

• 2:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Busy month.

• 2:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 2:05Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, well, let's thank our partners. We'll get right into it. Thanks to Cornbread Hemp, get 30% off your first order at cornbreadhemp.com/gge with code GGE.

• 2:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Helix, get 27% off at helixsleep.com/gge.

• 2:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm so excited for the report this week.

• 2:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  We are going to do our productivity report.

• 2:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  In honor of Elon Musk, the President Musk.

• 2:30Rayna Greenberg?

  The President of the United States, yes.

• 2:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, making fun of him, actually, in his deranged move to email all the government workers and say, what'd you do last week?

• 2:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  What did you do last week? That's the subject line! So, last Saturday, Elon Musk, everybody, federal employees, received an email from the Office of Personnel and Management, that's the OPM, you guys, with the subject line, "What did you do last week on Saturday?"

• 2:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I know what you did last summer.

• 2:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know what you did. I still, you know what's so funny? I know what you did last summer, and then the next sequel is, "I still know what you did last summer."

• 3:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I haven't forgot. Buzz buzz!

• 3:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Me and my friends and I, back in high school, would like, just go, we would just have that joke running forever, we'd be like, "I still kinda remember what you might have done three summers ago." Like, we're like, how long are they gonna play this out?

• 3:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, was it, did he not die at the end of the movie? Is that like, the whole thing is like, buzz buzz, still, still going?

• 3:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't even remember. That fisherman?

• 3:27Rayna Greenberg?

  He was a fisherman. Which I think is sexy. That guy was kinda hot, in that trench coat.

• 3:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was a lot far, like, killer, like, a lot of our, like, yeah, slasher killers from our, like, Jason was kinda hot.

• 3:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Big.

• 3:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know who wasn't hot was Freddy Krueger. Like, he was all burned up.

• 3:47Rayna Greenberg?

  But if you don't look at their faces, like, they're big dudes.

• 3:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I like that sweater. Okay, so, he sent this email, "What did you do last week?"

• 3:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  "What did you do last week?" It said, "Please reply to this email with approx," can't write approximately, "approx, period, and no greeting. Please reply to this email with approx five bullets of what you accomplished last week and CC your manager. Please do not send any classified information, links, or attachments. Deadline is this Monday at 11:59 PM Eastern Time." And several agencies told workers to ignore the request, including the Justice Department, the FBI, the State Department, the Pentagon, the Department of Energy, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. So, Trump publicly backed the effort earlier in the day. There was no word early Tuesday on how many workers complied with the directive.

• 4:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  On Monday evening, Musk gave workers some leeway. He tweeted out, he said on X, he's talking to the government on...

• 4:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hey guys, just in case, who's checking that? So he put out, he sent an X, "Subject to the discretion of the president, they will be given another chance to comply."

• 4:57Rayna Greenberg?

  He didn't reply all to the email he sent? He put it on Twitter.

• 5:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  "Failure to respond a second time will result in termination," he added, "without a new deadline."

• 5:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Just do this, just fuck around and find out.

• 5:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  And the FBI is like, "Don't worry about it."

• 5:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, Donald Trump was like, "The FBI doesn't have to worry about it, the CIA." Like, he also like reneged on it, too.

• 5:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  What a clown show, and that's an insult to clowns. Like, what if I said, "Tessa, do this thing," and Rand was like, "You don't have to do it," and I was like, "No, you better do it or you're fired." That is so embarrassing. Like, these people running the country are like, if they're cruel and they're incompetent and they're maniacal, but on top of it, they're just embarrassing me.

• 5:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, what if you brought your kid to work and your boss is in the room and your kid's like, "Shut up, sit down, my daddy's in charge." Kid, "You're not the boss, my dad is."

• 5:52Rayna Greenberg?

  But except for it's the president of the whole United States and it's on national television.

• 5:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was it confirmed that that kid said that?

• 5:58Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, you didn't watch the clip?

• 6:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, I thought it was a little more like a lip reading. I couldn't tell if you could hear him.

• 6:03Rayna Greenberg?

  They tried to say, that's what he said. He was saying to his dad?

• 6:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, sure.

• 6:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, okay, he was looking directly at Donald Trump.

• 6:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  That kid's a plant. That kid was a hired assassin. You know, we sat him down and was like, "Tell that man sitting at the desk, he sucks."

• 6:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God.

• 6:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so.

• 6:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so just before we get into ours, people took this and ran with it in the most hilarious ways. People also were like, "Hey, by the way, this is Elon Musk's email, hit him up." Like, all this stuff gets leaked, which I love.

• 6:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 6:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, the one when they were firing everybody due to DEI and then all those emails got leaked and then people were just flooding those email addresses. You couldn't even reach those email addresses within an hour. It was all like, you know.

• 6:44Rayna Greenberg?

  If I was on the fence about quitting my job, I would be like, "This is my moment. This is my swan song. This is the second I'm gonna send the most baller fire email, and I'm gonna talk about this until the end of time." It's like when a guy in high school scores the winning touchdown and he just tells everybody about it until he's 50, until the end of time. I would start every conversation with what I put in this email.

• 7:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, it's interesting, because I'm like, I don't, I don't know, if I were these people getting these emails, I'd be like, "I'm never gonna fucking quit." Like I, you know, I mean, I guess they can fire you, but I'm like, I just feel like I'd be too stubborn to quit and like, take the bait, you know?

• 7:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, would you just write like, uh, this is what I did last week email?

• 7:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  So.

• 7:27Rayna Greenberg?

  You just write nothing?

• 7:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  I wouldn't respond to that.

• 7:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's insane. I don't take you seriously. So someone, this is a guy named John Schwartz. I guess he tweeted this out. He said, you really can just email Elon Musk at HR at OPM.gov. Dear Elon, here's what I did last week. Got blitzed on ketamine, ignored my children, tweeted 1,782 times, wore weird sunglasses inside, got humiliated by astronauts. Honestly, I think I should be fired for this, but that's your call. Best, John. Here's one. She sent this. This woman, Angelina, she sent this. Number one, banged your mom in the back of a 99 Civic. Number two, but not before we went to the Waffle House. Number three, but not before we did cocaine off the koala changing station. Number four, but not before we downloaded our data and dropped it off at the Chinese consulate. Number five, but not before we donated our 401ks to Pfizer.

• 8:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then here's my favorite one. My five accomplishments. Someone sent this to HR at OPM.gov. Did not give you up. Did not let you down. Did not run around and desert you. Did not make you cry. Did not say goodbye.

• 8:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like we're really seeing the creativity and humanity.

• 8:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 8:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it's so unserious.

• 8:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  But yet so serious.

• 8:36Rayna Greenberg?

  So they have so far, they've laid off 20,000 government employees. I mean, it is very serious.

• 8:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. This is the real fired festival.

• 8:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. So we have made our own productivity reports.

• 8:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 8:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you want to kick us off?

• 8:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Elon, comma, you are the nastiest skank bitch anyone has ever met. No one should trust you. You are a fugly slut. Here is what I did last week.

• 9:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  One, booked four flights for my upcoming tour. If they crash, it's your fault. Two, was reminded that you have 13 children by four women, which is more children than Nick Cannon. Wrote a joke about it. Thank you for being America's punchline. Three, tested out a new vibrator for our company and it was amazing. 1010 cooler to masturbate than wield a chainsaw on stage like you're a seasonal employee of a haunted house. Four, checked in with the members of our team in a non-aggressive, non-demanding way and we actually had the authority to do so. Five, permanently deleted my Twitter account. Actually, that's so good. I did do all that.

• 9:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I did do that.

• 9:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Let me hear yours.

• 9:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, I was in Miami this week. Dear Elon, this is what I did this week. I made out with a guy and then I watched him make out with another guy and I was super chill about it.

• 9:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I unclogged a toilet two days after I clogged it.

• 10:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God. Wow.

• 10:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I, there was a lot of anxiety in my body about that one. Also, I think someone else clogged it, but I won't blame Rob publicly on this.

• 10:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God. Yeah, please drag a man, though.

• 10:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I sold three pieces of furniture on Facebook Marketplace that I bought the previous week.

• 10:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's your kink.

• 10:26Rayna Greenberg?

  That's my kink. I bought all my outfits for South by Southwest two weeks ahead of time.

• 10:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh.

• 10:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I bought 10 pieces of clothing on Revolve. I only returned eight.

• 10:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and nothing on Amazon.

• 10:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, and then finally I went out until 2:00 AM, three nights in a row, and I did my skincare routine all three nights.

• 10:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love that you did yours like a dear diary and I really did mine like a burn book. You really were like, Elon, I really wanted you to know. And I was like, Elon, I fucking hate you, but I hope you die.

• 10:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, I ran two companies in the meantime, planned a roadmap for our second business, recorded two podcast episodes and one for the future and planned my birthday party for the summer.

• 11:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, boom. That's what we really did.

• 11:09Rayna Greenberg?

  And treated people with respect in the meantime.

• 11:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Well, that's what we did. That's our productivity report.

• 11:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh my God, yours is so good. That's so funny.

• 11:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I just tried to insult him with everyone.

• 11:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, no, that was good. Let's put it on our, um, on our Instagram this week.

• 11:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 11:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Let's put on X this week. You don't, you can't anymore.

• 11:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so yes, speaking of our current government, Fyre Festival is back. And this is real.

• 11:34Rayna Greenberg?

  So how? If you, so if you guys aren't familiar with what this was, this was several years ago.

• 11:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 11:41Rayna Greenberg?

  A festival that was supposed to happen. I don't know. And lots of people went, it was a disaster. Back-to-back documentaries have, I'm so obsessed with them. I've watched them probably more than any other piece of content. So we're well aware of what happened here, right? And who was the head of this? So obviously it comes out, says there's a second Fyre Festival coming. He announced it was gonna be in May. It's already been pushed to.

• 12:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Billy McFarlane.

• 12:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Billy McFarlane.

• 12:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't say his name.

• 12:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's like you didn't want to say his name.

• 12:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 12:08Rayna Greenberg?

  So he announced it's gonna be in May. He's already pushed it to June, but tickets have gone on sale as of right now. Tickets are going for up to a million dollars.

• 12:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  A million dollars.

• 12:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Packages of being on a yacht, all-inclusive trips. There is not one artist confirmed for the festival.

• 12:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who would do this?

• 12:25Rayna Greenberg?

  If you buy tickets to this, you deserve it.

• 12:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, so it's in Mexico.

• 12:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 12:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Isla Mujeres. I butchered that.

• 12:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought it was Isla, but I didn't know how to say the next name.

• 12:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's, I think it's Isla Mujeres. It means island of women. I've been. It's gorgeous. I mean, I really hope the people who go to this aren't allowed back in the US. Especially if you spend a million dollars on this. Like, we don't, you are so stupid. Like, please don't come back.

• 12:53Rayna Greenberg?

  No, that's so true. You should be deported out of here.

• 12:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who would, who would do the festival? Like, like, who's, who gives like scammy vibes? Like, I can't imagine who would sign up for this.

• 13:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, he's saying there's an incredible production company. Doesn't name the company. We are developing and building out a private island for all the actual festival activities. No photos.

• 13:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know who will headline this is Elon Musk with the fucking chainsaw onstage.

• 13:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I could see him being part of it.

• 13:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  As a headliner.

• 13:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Why not?

• 13:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 13:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Kanye?

• 13:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god. Yeah, I mean, Fyre Festival is like, that was our Roman Empire before we even had that language. I mean, this is all we cared about. I feel like I can't relate to anybody who doesn't love Fyre Festival. Like, I still talk about it. I still reference it, the both of the documentaries. If you weren't obsessed with it and have watched both documentaries and don't still reference it today, I don't know how we can be friends. Like, it really, it was the great unifier.

• 13:40Rayna Greenberg?

  It was the best thing I've ever watched. And also, he's not clear about the whole weekend either. So he says, like, the whole thing is sort of like, who's to say? Who's to say what people, there might be immersive experiences. There might be MMA fighting or something.

• 13:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:55Rayna Greenberg?

  He's just like, may, maybe, maybe there will be.

• 13:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 13:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I want to know, I wish we had access to how many tickets actually sold.

• 14:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sold, I know.

• 14:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm dying to know. Before you announce, actual people that are attached to this project? And like, how can you announce a festival that's coming soon and have no artists attached to it?

• 14:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's just gross to support him. Like, this is- Someone who defrauded people.

• 14:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 14:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who, you know, put them in danger. And even before that, like his, all his credit card scams and everything like this is like a scammer. Like, how could you support him? And then I got to thinking, like, what if it's a reenactment of the first one? What if it's like a going to like a war reenactment attraction?

• 14:38Rayna Greenberg?

  And then he's just like, gotcha bitch.

• 14:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then you just get to eat those sandwiches. I would watch this on like a live stream. I want to feel like I'm there. Like, I want to taste that musty slice of cheese on that slice of bread.

• 14:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Like watching penguins at the zoo. I wonder if they will set up like an immersive experience where you can go get those cheese sandwiches in the styrofoam. There's just like, in this, in this tent is Fyre Festival one.

• 15:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anytime I want to like talk shit about food, I send that photo.

• 15:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 15:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Favorite photos of all time. And you guys know the photo. It's like this dusty piece of cheese on like a slice of bread, no condiments and like a little bit of salad on the side and a styrofoam box. My favorite photo. It's my favorite food photo of all time.

• 15:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you know that that person who tweeted that was just like, no following, nothing. And it is one of the most famous, like, it should be in Time 100.

• 15:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  It should be in the Louvre.

• 15:24Rayna Greenberg?

  In the coffee table book.

• 15:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 15:27Rayna Greenberg?

  So McFarlane says that a minimum of $500,000 from the festival will go towards the 26 million in restitution that he owes.

• 15:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 15:35Rayna Greenberg?

  If he owes 26 million dollars, how is every dollar not going towards it?

• 15:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is literally the, the, the government. Like this is the, these are the same, like literally what's happening in the government is Fyre Festival. Like, are you hearing me? Like, it's the same thing. Just like scammers and like liars and are just like, yeah, well, people will do. What do we tell them?

• 15:56Rayna Greenberg?

  But there's like other options. Like you could go to Burning Man and Coachella and

• 16:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Something with a track record.

• 16:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, something that exists. And people are like, I'm going to put my money towards this. Well, I'm dying to see this manifest.

• 16:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I am too.

• 16:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so we, I feel like I'm waiting for a new season of television to come out. I am like foaming at the mouth for this to happen. I cannot like, what's going to happen?

• 16:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. So this year?

• 16:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 16:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  This year, no artist confirmed.

• 16:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Fyre Festival was coming back for round two in 2025.

• 16:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, that's insane.

• 16:29Rayna Greenberg?

  No artist confirmed. So 2,000 tickets will go on sale beginning of February 24th. So as of this week, they range in price from 1,400 to 1.1 million.

• 16:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, you know, just if anyone doesn't know, like this is impossible to do. So you can't plan a festival and lock in artists for three months. I have a tour planned currently through September and like I still plan it kind of late. You know, like I could barely get some of the dates I wanted, planning it in January. You know, like things get planned out, like this, people are on their tour schedules. Like I feel like I don't need to talk about this like it's a real thing that's happening. But it's like this will not, you can't get artists to commit to, who would you get to commit to this?

• 17:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, also the problem was not just getting artists. They actually have a lot of artists committed last time.

• 17:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 17:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Except the festival grounds weren't set up.

• 17:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  The logistics, yeah.

• 17:15Rayna Greenberg?

  The logistics to me is what's crazy. Like to get enough bathrooms.

• 17:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  There was no infrastructure, yeah.

• 17:20Rayna Greenberg?

  To get enough food, just water and general maintenance of the campgrounds. Like, this is an army of people. It should take a year.

• 17:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. And one of the things that upset me the most about all of it were all of the local people who helped build the structures or lack thereof, but like dedicated all their time and effort upon promised being paid and like didn't get paid. I mean, that was like the sickest part of it all.

• 17:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. That woman had like hosted all those people at her restaurant.

• 17:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yes.

• 17:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Like hundreds and hundreds of people. I mean,

• 17:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, people like bent over backwards. So, um, we'll, we'll, we'll do a report every week on Fyre Festival. I don't care.

• 17:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't wait. I can't wait for the documentaries about Fyre Festival 2 to come out. I'll never leave the house again.

• 17:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  So obviously one artist that will not be there is Rihanna, hot take. But she has been teasing her ninth studio album.

• 18:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It's been seven years, right?

• 18:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Eight years. So Anti, which is one of my favorite albums of all time, no skips, was in 2016. So this, she's put out a couple of songs since then, but no album. Obviously, this is such a thing in the zeitgeist, like Rihanna's, we want new music, you know? And she is really hyping it.

• 18:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm thrilled. I can't wait. And I feel like it's like on the precipice. Did she announce when it's coming out?

• 18:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 18:31Rayna Greenberg?

  She's just like?

• 18:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's like, I've been in the studio. It's coming. She said, I cannot put out, I cannot put up anything mediocre. This, she told Harper's Bazaar, after waiting eight years, you might as well just wait some more. Rihanna's not give a fuck. But she says, this body needs to come out. I'm ready to go there. I've been in the studio for eight whole years, but it didn't hit me. I was searching for it. I went through phases of what I wanted to do, this kind of album, not that album. I know it's not going to be anything that anybody expects. And it's not going to be commercial or radio digestible. It's going to be where my artistry deserves to be right now. I feel like I finally cracked it, girl. What, I mean-

• 19:04Rayna Greenberg?

  But it's like, it's an announcement about nothing?

• 19:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just think she's like, get ready. Like, I made it. We're just like finalizing, putting some finishes and touches on it, so it'll be three more years.

• 19:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I like when she's like, yep, you guys waited, waited a little while longer.

• 19:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I am just like, what if it's country? Cowboy Fenty?

• 19:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, she said there is no genre, right? The people are waiting for a reggaeton album, and it's not that, that, and that there is no genre. And I mean, I think we're just seeing more and more artists say that, like, you're not going to put me in a, you're not going to put me in a category.

• 19:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  We need some more love for Cowboy Fenty. Did you know what's her last name?

• 19:38Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 19:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you know Rihanna's last name is Fenty?

• 19:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought you said Cowboy Fenty.

• 19:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Were you today years old when you realized that's her last name?

• 19:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 19:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Robin Rihanna Fenty.

• 19:53Rayna Greenberg?

  What are you saying to me?

• 19:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you know that?

• 19:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Tessa said, how long have you known this?

• 19:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I've always known it. I know that's where Fenty came from.

• 20:01Rayna Greenberg?

  I guess I'd never thought about it. I support Fenty. I shop Fenty. I like their lip glosses. Have you, is this common knowledge?

• 20:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think it is. That's why I wanted to bring it up today. Because it jogged my memory when I was like, what would Rihanna's country album be called? I thought of Cowboy Fenty.

• 20:16Rayna Greenberg?

  That's funny.

• 20:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was just like, I wonder if Rihanna doesn't know. Robin Fenty.

• 20:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, I, I wonder if this is common knowledge?

• 20:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't think it is.

• 20:23Rayna Greenberg?

  It was hiding in plain sight for me. It's just, it's been in my bag. I have Fenty lip gloss in my bag. So how did I never think about this? Like, what did the name Fenty come from?

• 20:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 20:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Her name. What's her name?

• 20:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  I could see some rock vibes, like guitar riffs. Like, I don't know. She just is like a rock star. So, and I mean, some of her previous songs have had like a little, some rock tone to it, but like, I don't know. I don't think she's putting out a rock album, but I think that would be cool.

• 20:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that there's gonna be no genre.

• 20:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 20:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she's just gonna like dabble in all these different things. I can't wait to see who she collabs with. I'm very excited for this. Whenever it may be.

• 21:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:07Rayna Greenberg?

  She's just, she's like, you guys wait a little longer.

• 21:10Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 21:54Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 22:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Site wide, helixsleep.com/gge and the pillows too. Don't sleep on the pillows. We'll do sleep on the pillows, but we're obsessed.

• 22:44Rayna Greenberg?

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• 23:28Rayna Greenberg?

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• 24:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Raina, let us know about your new dating app.

• 24:06Rayna Greenberg?

  So Tessa has, Tessa brought this across my desk and it is a new app. It's the protector app.

• 24:16Rayna Greenberg?

  You can hire a bodyguard in your city. And it's not available in all cities, but it is available in LA.

• 24:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 24:24Rayna Greenberg?

  And you go on and you make a profile and you say what you're looking for. And there are qualified protectors in your area.

• 24:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God. So I saw this because girls were using it for Fashion Week, right?

• 24:35Rayna Greenberg?

  That makes sense.

• 24:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I think I saw that some celebrities were like using, that's the first headline I saw about it. But I was like, oh, no.

• 24:41Rayna Greenberg?

  So you can hire armed, qualified protectors for the day. So that makes sense. You would hire them temporarily. So you can hire them for like five hours to pick you up. And it's people that, you know, they're qualified. Eight out of 10 are bald.

• 24:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you downloaded the app?

• 24:57Rayna Greenberg?

  So I downloaded the app, so I was like, what's this about? Like, this is my exact prototype. I'm gonna be like, super into these guys, and I just wanna like, see what they look like, maybe hire one for the day. Of the six I'm looking at, four are bald.

• 25:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 25:09Rayna Greenberg?

  So you pick your area, and then when you go in, you can see them, and there's videos of each guy.

• 25:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 25:15Rayna Greenberg?

  They walk into the frame, and they tell you their qualifications for protecting you.

• 25:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is better than any other dating app.

• 25:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Way better. Okay, let's meet Jim.

• 25:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  We have video?

• 25:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Video.

• 25:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are other dating apps even doing video?

• 25:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, this isn't a dating app, it's a protector app.

• 25:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, right.

• 25:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Why? This whole time, like, this is revolutionary, is a dating app.

• 25:38Rayna Greenberg?

  It is so high quality. Wait till I show this to you. They walk into the frame, and they're like, hi, I'm Jim. This is my history. This is what I can provide you. And they're all highly qualified to protect you.

• 25:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  What an upgrade from TaskRabbit.

• 25:49Rayna Greenberg?

  They all look nice. Yes. Okay, ready?

• 25:53Speaker 02

  I'm Jim. I'm a protector. I spent a life of service. I did 27 years with the Los Angeles Police Department. And prior to that, two years as a correctional officer with the Födöbiö prisons. In terms of my military career, I did 12 years with the United States Marine Corps in the Scout Sniper Platoon with the CIA.

• 26:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so. Okay, I'm literally hiring a bodyguard. Like, I just wanna hire one of these, Ben.

• 26:10Rayna Greenberg?

  There's a collage of photos, so you can see them. They look very serious. There's tons of them, you can scroll through them all. All of them are bald, obviously.

• 26:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that a requirement? You can't?

• 26:21Rayna Greenberg?

  No, there's two of them with hair.

• 26:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you really take a bodyguard seriously with hair? Those pictures are porn. Guys, all these sexy photos. He's like, scaling a building.

• 26:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Look at him scaling a building. So that's Darko. He's sexy. You can find him in the LA area.

• 26:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Has hair, which is, immediately, I wasn't gonna trust it, but now I do.

• 26:40Rayna Greenberg?

  But they can do emergency medical, they're licensed. Okay, so when you.

• 26:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  CPR.

• 26:44Rayna Greenberg?

  You're gonna die.

• 26:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, he's like, ah, ah, I need CPR, sir.

• 26:50Rayna Greenberg?

  You're not even ready for what you do here. Okay, so you do book protector.

• 26:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  What if you saw someone you knew, your ex?

• 26:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I was actually gonna send this to him and tell him to sign up for it.

• 26:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  You should, yeah.

• 26:58Rayna Greenberg?

  No, we're not speaking terms, we're not mad at him. Okay, so you say, how do you wanna, okay, how many people need to be protected?

• 27:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 27:04Rayna Greenberg?

  And, and how many protectees and how many people need to be protected? So you can request a few bodyguards. Yeah, so like, all three of us need like, one, man on man, three people. Then you pick dress code. And they walk into the frame at, you can see them in every type of outfit.

• 27:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, is it like stripper vibes?

• 27:23Rayna Greenberg?

  No, it's business formal.

• 27:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm like, construction worker.

• 27:25Rayna Greenberg?

  You wanna, okay, I'm just trying to say this again, you wanna watch this.

• 27:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm just trying to pick for, for shows.

• 27:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, business formal, they walk into the frame in the outfits.

• 27:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. What?

• 27:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Business casual?

• 27:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Business, I don't like business casual.

• 27:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 27:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Looks like he's about to go present at like a conference.

• 27:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Tactical casual?

• 27:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, that looks, that's what my brother wears on the weekends.

• 27:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Operator?

• 27:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent of this.

• 27:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Just full gear.

• 27:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Full military helmet and everything.

• 27:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so that's, that's it, but you see every single man walk into the frame in all four outfits. Cause you're just like, what do I wanna see him in?

• 27:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who invented this app? That's like the best thing I've ever seen.

• 27:55Rayna Greenberg?

  And like, the video quality is so high, you hear their voices, you see them move, you see them in different outfits, like.

• 28:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, why isn't Revolve doing that? Like, does Revolve have an app where, I wanna see what this looks like on somebody?

• 28:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Once in a while, they, there's a video of people moving, but like, rarely. I'm about to use this app to hire people to take me to the grocery store.

• 28:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Honestly, we need it, which is a sad reality, yeah.

• 28:19Rayna Greenberg?

  They're just like, ma'am, what do you need this for? And I'm like, no, literally no reason, I just wanna hang out today.

• 28:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, did anyone look kinda young? They all seem a little, so, the thing with this app is like, they have like, credentials, like, they.

• 28:32Rayna Greenberg?

  They seem extremely qualified.

• 28:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, they've been in the military, or they've been like, a police officer, you know? Like, it's not just like, I'm a big scary dude, which is like, my brother is like, a big scary dude. I mean, you have him walking next to you, no one would, would fuck with you, but these people could like, they know how to act if, like, they would know what to do if you were getting shot at, you know?

• 28:50Rayna Greenberg?

  So they're all licensed, um, to carry under the law enforcement, officer safety act. Um, it looks as though they all pick you up in a suburban, so they have to have a type, a certain type of car. You can choose the type of bodyguard you want, how they dress, et cetera. There's a membership fee and a rate to book the bodyguard. But yes, they are highly qualified and they have backgrounds. There's background checks. They're licensed to carry firearms. I think it's only available in LA and New York right now.

• 29:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that makes sense.

• 29:17Rayna Greenberg?

  A newer service.

• 29:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  That business casual threw me. I'd always want someone in like a suit.

• 29:23Rayna Greenberg?

  A suit.

• 29:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, like.

• 29:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, the first one.

• 29:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, the tactical casual or whatever, business tactical casual, whatever it was.

• 29:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, the one of them looks like he's gonna getting ready to go drive a tank.

• 29:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly. Like, that's like scary vibes, you know, like going to war.

• 29:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I would make him wear that.

• 29:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm very turned on by this and I love it and I'm gonna actively seek out times that I need a bodyguard.

• 29:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I love it. Best of luck out there. I do wanna know, like, I wanna search for like younger, like, those guys all looked like, what, 50 plus?

• 29:56Rayna Greenberg?

  They're probably retired.

• 29:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 29:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Retired law enforcement, retired from the army, like, this is just like something they're gonna do for some extra money on the side. They do look older. There was one or two guys, there's only six guys right there, so two of them looked in their late 30s, but that's the youngest.

• 30:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's good.

• 30:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 30:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you're like too old. Where's the 27 year olds?

• 30:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I've, listen, most of my, they're 29.

• 30:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, you've been doing great.

• 30:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I met a 42 year old that I was attracted to.

• 30:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wow, how crazy.

• 30:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 30:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so we're just gonna do a couple of quick show updates, but really some interesting stuff about White Lotus and Love is Blind.

• 30:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, so we've been gifted two episodes of White Lotus now, so.

• 30:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really quick, because the theme song is such a main talking point, they played some of the theme song in that second episode.

• 30:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I noticed that.

• 30:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, I mean, what a rush. Like, there's this moment when the really fucked up, empty boyfriend dude is like doing the meditation and they play like 15 seconds of like the season two, I think.

• 31:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, season two.

• 31:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Season two theme song. I was like, oh my god, so maybe they're like gonna intersperse it throughout. But anyway, so I just wanted to give that quick. And you guys probably caught it. I mean, if you were paying attention, you caught it.

• 31:11Rayna Greenberg?

  I really was like, maybe they are just gonna change the music out every time. Like, I held out hope that this is not what we're doing.

• 31:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is it.

• 31:18Rayna Greenberg?

  But my hopes were dashed.

• 31:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 31:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so article came out this week. Mike White, creator of the show, revealed he modeled the family in White Lotus after Bravo's Southern Charm.

• 31:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  What an absolute roast of Southern Charm.

• 31:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Not a compliment.

• 31:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like terrible family, that soulless family.

• 31:37Rayna Greenberg?

  So he

• 31:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Except for maybe the daughter.

• 31:39Rayna Greenberg?

  He told the cast, if they wanted some inspo for how to dress, how to move, how to talk, watch Southern Charm.

• 31:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Crazy.

• 31:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely crazy. And then the father said that he modeled his character off of Thomas Ravenel.

• 31:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  A criminal.

• 31:53Rayna Greenberg?

  A criminal who was kicked off the show for allegedly sexually assaulting someone. He got a 21 year old pregnant on the show. I mean, a bad guy.

• 32:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you, they look alike now to me. Like, I can't unsee it. But now, like, also Parker Posey's character is the mom. It's like, I can feel where she watched Patricia.

• 32:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, my God.

• 32:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I love Patricia. And that's the best looking woman of a certain age I've ever seen. I don't know what she's had done, obviously full facelift, but like, you know, I'm a, I'm a Patricia fan, but like, can't you tell she kind of pulled from that, probably?

• 32:23Rayna Greenberg?

  So it is an extreme, I'm not comparing Whitney Sutherland Smith on Southern Charm to that terrible son. I mean, that son is supposed to be

• 32:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, no, no.

• 32:31Rayna Greenberg?

  horrible, but

• 32:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, me either.

• 32:32Rayna Greenberg?

  there does seem to be an extreme allegiance between the mom to the son on the show, no matter what he does, no matter how inappropriate he is, which, I mean, Patricia rides hard for Whitney, no matter how bad his behavior is, no matter how nasty he is to everybody around him.

• 32:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I think she has, she has a moral compass. Like, what you see in Parker Posey's character is this mom who enables her son's predatory behavior. Those terrible guys who do bad things, and that doesn't always have to be, you know, the top level sexual assault, but like, that do bad things and then they just talk about how much they love their mom. That's their mom.

• 33:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's very much like, boys will be boys.

• 33:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 33:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Just let them be while they are. When he walks in from the massage saying he wanted a happy ending. I mean, obviously, they're building towards something that she's allowed all this behavior.

• 33:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 33:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm, I'm very curious what they're building towards. You know, every episode, you're reminded that there is, I don't want to say like a mass shooting, but they start the season with a lot of bullets going off. So it's like, who is spraying these bullets, right? And like, who's it gonna be? Is it the dad that's like clearly gonna go down for some huge financial thing? But like, I'm just wondering, like, I'm just so curious what's gonna happen. Or is the youngest son, who is just seems to be really kind of chill and even, like, is he just gonna like snap?

• 33:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  He gives that look.

• 33:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, right?

• 33:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 33:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, they open the second episode with him waking up next to his brother who has slept butt naked above the covers.

• 33:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 33:57Rayna Greenberg?

  And he doesn't sort of like emote about it, like.

• 34:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. He's got a weird vibe.

• 34:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Weird vibe.

• 34:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I have a question for you about the three girls. Obviously, we love the storyline about the three friends and the one celebrity friend. So do you think that it's always going to be two girls gossiping about the third? Or do you think that Kate is spearheading the gossip and playing both sides? And like, that's the storyline? Because like Kate and Jacqueline talking about Lori, or Kate and Lori talking about Jacqueline. And that's what we've seen so far. And I'm like, okay, well, if they're trying to show that like all women do is like talk about the person who's not in the room, then the next thing would be like Jacqueline and Lori talking about Kate. But then I'm like, maybe Kate is kind of this like one that stirs the pot and like plays them against each other. I just find it fascinating as like female friendship dynamics.

• 34:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I find the dynamics interesting, and I'm not sure like what's going to happen. I think that they're all going to talk about each other behind each other's backs. But I'm, I can't wait for the scene where it all explodes, where they're all screaming at each other and like hurling insults about you've always been this way. Of course, this is how you, I mean, I, I'm like seething for it. I can't wait.

• 35:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then the thing with the mom with like Parker Posey and Kate character like.

• 35:07Rayna Greenberg?

  So I was curious what you thought was the background in that because Parker was having breakfast with her family and that Kate woman walks over and is like, we met at this baby shower and she just like won't give her anything. She's just like, yeah, dude, cool. I'm like wondering like what happened there.

• 35:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 35:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Did the husband have an affair with that woman?

• 35:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. My immediate thought, she was like, I'm not friends with that woman anymore. Don't say her name to me.

• 35:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh.

• 35:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so I'm just so enthralled with this season. I just love it so much.

• 35:32Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what's so interesting? Because I, I agree, I love it so much. And I saw somebody else on TikTok yesterday saying like, nothing has happened to this show. It's so boring. And I'm like, that's, you're missing the point of White Lotus, which is just that like, it's just character dynamics building to something and you don't know what.

• 35:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  People say that every season. You're not that smart.

• 35:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know what else to, if you don't think, think, like, I don't know what to, that's fine. Not everybody is a big thinker.

• 36:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, it reminds me of Enora, which is, you and I watched it and I'm crazy about it. Nominated for all these awards. It's about a stripper in Brooklyn that marries one of her clients, this Russian son of an oligarch. And somebody was saying, I was saying I loved the movie so much and you and I just thought it was so phenomenal. And my friend was like, but like, nothing really happens in the end. It just kind of ends. And I was like, that is not the point of this movie, to figure out like, what happens to her forever. It's this like, great story to me. And it's so exciting and interesting. It's shot so beautifully. Like, not everything has to necessarily have like, a clear point all the time.

• 36:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, that's how A Real Pain ends. And I'm not going to give it away, but I watched A Real Pain last night with Jesse Eisenberg and Kieran Culkin. And it ends in a certain way. And I read a, I don't want to give it away to you, but I read a quote from Jesse Eisenberg that said, he would have made more if he would have ended it in a different way. In like, a more, I guess, happy ending type way. He was like, I had big time movie producers be like, if you just do this thing, this movie will be more of a blockbuster. And he was like, that's not the movie I want to make. Like, it leaves really, it ends very like, kind of melancholy, open to interpretation, but like, not like, wrapped up in a bow. And so I think we're seeing more of that.

• 37:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I think we are too. And like, A Complete Unknown was like that, where they just kind of tell a very small slice of Bob Dylan's life. And it's, there's no, like, I even walked out and I was like, what, asking myself, like, what was the point of that? What was the point? And I asked you about it. We talked about it. And I guess, everybody, like, if there's a murder mystery, and the whole movie is about who murdered somebody, I need to know, like, who the murderer was.

• 37:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's why I don't like Unsolved Mysteries, because I need to know.

• 37:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I hate Unsolved Mysteries. The title makes me not want to watch it. But I'm fine to like, have something just stand on its own and be just sort of like, a cultural representation of what was happening at the time.

• 37:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I'm a little bit of a happy ending girl. Not like that. But just like, speaking of Foilotus, but just, I do, kind of like, I watch things to feel happy more than sad or confused. But like, I respect the art and like, not everything needs to be like that.

• 38:09Rayna Greenberg?

  But White Lotus, I don't think that like, I think you do get an ending eventually. And I think that like, the show is about a lot. Like, the dynamic of these three women that have sort of diverged in their paths and they're just trying to figure out, like, do we have anything in common anymore? And we clearly hate each other. I just, I love it, I live for it.

• 38:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, the three women, for sure.

• 38:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, and rounding it out, the newest episode drop of Love is Blind. We're finally out of the pods, we made it, you guys. We're on the honeymoons and then, and then home. This season of Love is Blind, now, listen, you guys, Ashley and I love this show so much, like, me, her, Tessa, we're obsessed with this show. This season has been a struggle for me.

• 38:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you want to say nothing's happening, then say it about Love is Blind, not White Lotus.

• 38:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I said to Ashley, I have watched 90 minutes of television and all they have done is talk about each other's sleep habits. I mean, they have nothing else to talk about. And I don't want to be like, these are the most boring people on earth, because I think that well-adjusted people make for bad TV.

• 39:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 39:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that people that are, like-

• 39:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Dramatic, and, yeah.

• 39:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I think people that are securely attached, that just have normal, healthy relationships, probably make for really bad television, and that could be what's going on here. But it's, it's a tough watch this season. I mean, nothing is happening, it is just really polite, and people hate Dave, and I just want to be the first one to say, thank God for Dave. Dave has single-handedly saved this season, he's the only reason to watch this season. Dave, I am so happy that you were born.

• 39:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Dave's sex survey? Dave going around and asking everybody if they've had sex? First of all, that would be me. I'm dying to know, who's fucking? It's, it would be less creepy from a woman.

• 39:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, asking the other women.

• 39:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  When he was doing it, I was like, he's still going.

• 39:56Rayna Greenberg?

  With all the women.

• 39:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's asking men, he's asking women, and then, what is he, seeing if people will corroborate the story? He's asking people from the same couple, did you fuck? Like, I was like, what is actually happening? But I was like, that would be me. If I was bored, I would be going up, you guys fuck yet?

• 40:09Rayna Greenberg?

  So, yes, I agree, I want the gossip. And, okay, I always have theories about like, what production has done to these people, because like, every season, there is a couple that isn't having sex, and- That man is always asking the other ones, have you guys had sex?

• 40:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, right. Okay.

• 40:23Rayna Greenberg?

  He is usually asking the other men, have you had sex? He's not surveying the women. But I wonder if like, production just tells everybody to ask everybody, you guys fucking? Like, I wonder if like, somebody told Dave, like, this is normal, we always make them do it.

• 40:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's also like, we always have to remember that these people are at these parties for what? Like, eight hours? You know, like, they have so many conversations about everything. I mean, they really bonded with their fellow women or men in the pods. Again, him asking the women was a little off-putting to me, but like, I, I just think that, yes, production saw an opportunity to like, to edit that all together and make him look a little crazy, but like, we have to remember on any show that those like, parties last like, so long. And they only show you 15 minutes of it.

• 41:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, they had nothing else to show. That party is my favorite thing every season, because everybody gets a little too drunk.

• 41:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 41:16Rayna Greenberg?

  And they get a little too jealous, and they go back to the rooms and fight.

• 41:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 41:19Rayna Greenberg?

  We always get the best, most insecure, half-coherent fights after this party. It is my favorite episode, always. No one was fighting, so all they had was Dave, again,

• 41:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 41:30Rayna Greenberg?

  to do the, are you guys fucking montage?

• 41:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  And, like, I'm not a Dave apologist. I actually think Dave is like, a walking red flag since day one. All the things he said that were joking, were rooted in truth. I think he's got some misogyny, for sure. And like, what he's doing now with Lauren, and like, berating her about what she did before she came on the show, is just so off-putting to me. It's so slut-shamy. And like, she is standing up for herself, and I love to see it. And she needs to get out of that relationship. I really don't like what I'm seeing.

• 41:57Rayna Greenberg?

  So, I think he, I think this is manufactured. I don't think that he actually cares that much. I think that he has talked-

• 42:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  His sister cares.

• 42:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think she cares either. And here's my theory. So, if you guys aren't caught up, basically Lauren had had a situation ship for two months with somebody.

• 42:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, a friend's a benefit.

• 42:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. Nobody's serious. She even says on camera, he doesn't mean anything to me, it's nothing. Like, I'll tell him to not talk to me. And Dave cannot let this go, that up until leaving for production, that she was dating somebody. And by the way, not dating, sleeping with somebody. By the way, these people probably sign up for the show six months before it films. You don't know if you're ever gonna get cast. And when you get cast, you don't know you're gonna meet somebody. Fuck until you feel like it.

• 42:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, like, and I've seen some comments of like, if the roles were reversed, we'd be villainizing Dave. What? I don't care if you fuck someone the morning you left for the show. Like, we haven't met yet. Like, you need to sex detox before going on a game show? Like, what is the, I don't, you weren't ready for me. What are you talking about? I don't understand the mentality. Like, I don't care who you fucked before we met and you fell for me. Obviously, you had a long-term relationship and there's still feelings there, whatever. Like, I had a one-night stand, what, two weeks before I met my now fiance? It could have been one week before, it could have been the day before. It didn't mean I wasn't ready to meet him and fall in love with him and marry him. But it just, I don't like what he's doing. It's coming across a lot shamy, like, my friends know about this,

• 43:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  and my sister knows about this. And again, it could be manufactured, but like, I just don't like this whole thing that she was fucking somebody right before she came on the show where she never even met him, and he's kind of saying that that means she wasn't ready to be in a relationship. That's false.

• 43:35Rayna Greenberg?

  By the way, it's worse if it's manufactured because you're still making her feel terrible and you don't care. But I was originally, when I first started watching this, in the camp of like, well, if this was a guy who went on the show and his partner found out that he was seeing somebody semi-regularly until they met them, I understand somebody being like, that makes me a little uncomfortable. They live in the building, I have to see this person, and I think people would be carrying torches, like, kill him! But I do think that you have a normal, rational conversation with your very new partner, I understand. And just say like, this doesn't mean anything, and that should be the end of it.

• 44:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, it just, it just depends. I mean, like, I think Lauren's telling the truth, but if it truly was just like a friend with benefits, like, yes, we hate when people go on these shows and they had a full-blown girlfriend, and they tell them, like, just wait till I'm out, kind of thing. But like, if it was just a guy you would fuck around with and you really were like, okay, well, this is over now, I'm going on the show, or you could be like, if it doesn't work out, I'll be back. Like, I don't know. I, this isn't, wasn't like a secret boyfriend to me. Like, we see a lot with guys going on the show who like had full relationships.

• 44:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I just wonder how much he's lying, because I feel like he's lying. He's said before that he has a hard time trusting that anybody likes him for him.

• 44:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which to me, that says a really avoidant person that manufactures ways to push you away from them. And this feels like a very manufactured way to test your boundaries and what you're willing to stick around for. But he is like hell bent on selling her this story that his friends don't trust her and they're mad at him about. Find me a man on planet Earth that cares about that. It's, it's, well, men who are like, super conservative and they want to think you're like, pure. They do. I mean, I don't, I, I, we, I don't know for sure, but I don't think it's manufactured because of necessarily the reason you do. I do think some guys are like, whoa, you're like tainted. Like, I was not sleeping with anybody weeks, months up until the show because I wanted to meet somebody and you're like, no longer pure to me.

• 45:28Rayna Greenberg?

  So they have sort of teased future episodes where he says, I, it's been a while since I've had sex. I haven't been dating. Like, he may have those ideals. Maybe you're right and this is terrible group of guys. I just, I can't imagine guys being like, I won't even meet her. I can't stand to be in the same room as her.

• 45:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 45:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Because of this thing she did. Like, what's it to you? What do you care? And then, if that's who he's surrounded by, I guess his sister could be similar. Like, I find it hard to believe that his sister's like, I can't believe you met a person on a dating show. You're such a scumbag. Because like, like, that girl must be crazy and attention seeking. Maybe if this was eight, 10 years ago. But there's so much of this in the world where people go on these dating shows and meet people and it does work out.

• 46:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 46:10Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not so crazy.

• 46:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I, I, yeah, I just, I don't think that it's, it has to be false. Like, I do think there's guys out there, like, that could get each other all worked up and like, oh my gosh, she was fucking Jason until right before she left. What a slut.

• 46:23Rayna Greenberg?

  [laughing]

• 46:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know? And that's why it's coming across slut-shamy to me.

• 46:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, it's very slut-shamy. Whether he means it or not, it's, it's horrible.

• 46:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Like, let it go. I think she should run for the hills.

• 46:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I really, I felt for her. I'm impressed by her in the season that she, in that scene, he was, his friends were gonna come over and she was just like, do I get to have a voice in this ever?

• 46:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 46:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Do I get to stand up for myself? I, I do hope she just sort of walks away from this and just, I don't know what else he wants her to say to him.

• 46:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 46:50Rayna Greenberg?

  There's nothing else she's gonna be able to say.

• 46:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 46:52Rayna Greenberg?

  You have to just decide to get over it.

• 46:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 46:55Rayna Greenberg?

  And then we did get a little bit of drama from Sarah and Ben, finally.

• 46:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 46:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, so, tell me what you think about the scene. So Sarah and Ben are sitting on their couch and they have been like, so cute the whole time. First couple to get engaged? Second couple? Whatever. They're cute. They seem to really like each other. They just like, they laugh at each other's jokes.

• 47:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sarah can do better, but yeah.

• 47:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I think they're very cute together, whatever. He gets up to get a drink and she looks at her phone for one second and goes, oh my god.

• 47:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  You are so funny. Like you don't know how it all works and gets edited together.

• 47:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina's like, this is reality. This is reality.

• 47:29Rayna Greenberg?

  The way they edited it was so funny because he gets up and she's like, oh my god, oh my god. Like they don't show her watching it. They've edited it as though she, like, it looked like she made it up and she'd been holding on to this for a couple of days. Anyways, I guess there's a video on TikTok of some woman saying she previously dated him and she's crying and she doesn't name him, but says they've cast him like real scumbags on the show. And then he tells a tale.

• 47:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  He just lies through his teeth. Like, we see men lie all the time on TV and in real life, but I feel like she's asking him questions and he's like, wheels her turning on how to lie to her. About, about kind of innocuous stuff, about when this ended, did he ghost her, did he, has he talked to her? Like, you're watching him. I feel like, create, like, you're, I feel like you're watching him lie in real time.

• 48:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, totally. What's the point of the lie?

• 48:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. What did I miss here? Like, everyone's dealt with bad behavior from a guy. Obviously, there's a huge spectrum. I'm not, I don't know what he did. Is he a bad, is he a terrible guy? Or is he just like ghosted someone and she's looking for a little bit of fame too, a little bit of clout too?

• 48:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm, I'm curious. She doesn't name him or say what he does. I mean, I do think that people are entitled, I'm not picking an apologist for him, but I think that if this really was four years ago, people are entitled to grow up, learn better behavior, find the right partner you want to change for, meet a person you want to lean in for. And yeah, maybe you, I mean, there's people that have had bad experiences with me. I'm not a bad partner to the people I choose to be a partner to. So I don't really know what it is and what's happening here, but his total refusal to just be honest is why I would be out. She's just like, just be honest with me.

• 49:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's just tough, like, all of it, you know, you, like, no one's really prepared for this type of. Scenario and you get out and people are making TikToks and you're supposed to be with this guy. I mean, that like hits you like a punch in the gut when you like see something about your partner on the internet. You know what I mean? And you're not used to it. It's never happened to you before. I mean, obviously like famous people deal with that all the time, but these people aren't accustomed to it.

• 49:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she'd know the great. I think she was just like, I need you to be honest with me.

• 49:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And I want to do my doppelgangers.

• 49:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 49:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So I feel like they're not as good as past years. I'm going to do them. I have a

• 49:36Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like the past seasons. That's because you Bad season?

• 49:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Everybody looks the same.

• 49:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 49:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I, I have a talent for doing Love is Blind doppelgangers and who they look like.

• 49:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 49:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I'm going to do this season. Dave and Daniel look so much like people I know that it's crazy, but you guys wouldn't get it. So I can't put their pics up. So just, just know that it's uncanny.

• 49:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 49:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So

• 49:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Just know that I was right.

• 50:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Devin is Keegan, Michael Key. Key and Peele.

• 50:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm looking at him all your time. Yes. Okay.

• 50:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Devin is, is Key of Key and Peele. Okay. Alex is Ben Higgins meets Nick Vile.

• 50:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you see it?

• 50:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 50:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Mason, you're not going to see this one coming. Mason, you gotta dig deep for it, but it is Timu Andrew Schultz.

• 50:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Let me dig, let me zoom in on his face.

• 50:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also Azul with that underbite.

• 50:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  He has such an underbite. I'm like, is this Azul?

• 50:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. I see, I see what you're, I see what you're putting down.

• 50:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Molly, again, no longer on the show, but she'll, she'll come back. She's Timu Isla Fisher.

• 50:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Yeah.

• 50:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also she's gives like Daisy Jones.

• 50:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I, she has like spicy red hair. She's just fun.

• 50:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. Taylor, you say Naomi from Southern Charm.

• 50:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Dead rare.

• 50:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think Nick mixed with little Jennifer Lawrence.

• 51:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, who could see that?

• 51:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Joey, you say Trevor Lawrence, which is the former Clemson quarterback. I think he's Travis Birkenstock from Clueless, mixed with Hear Me Out, a little splash of Gronk.

• 51:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Gronk's body.

• 51:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's got a little meatheady vibes.

• 51:19Rayna Greenberg?

  A little bit. That guy's the biggest neck I've ever seen.

• 51:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  That like skater boy haircut.

• 51:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and this one, this might be controversial, but Lauren is Pam from The Office.

• 51:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I do see Pam from The Office, yes.

• 51:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tess is like nodding her head.

• 51:34Speaker 03

  Well, it's like a thing on the internet that they're like,

• 51:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is?

• 51:36Speaker 03

  Lauren and Dave are like Pam and Roy. Like, they're like making those comparisons.

• 51:41Rayna Greenberg?

  He is Roy!

• 51:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, I didn't even see that!

• 51:45Speaker 03

  So there's like, I've seen like articles about it, like it's in my TikTok.

• 51:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, really?

• 51:48Speaker 03

  Like, that was like, because like she gives Pam, like she is, like it's very like, I think it's her voice. Her voice to me is very Pam-y.

• 51:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally. I mean, I'm looking at her headshot from the show and like the hair is a dead ringer from when Pam actually got a haircut on the show, like season five.

• 52:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 52:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, Pam. And Pam and Roy was a good call.

• 52:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know.

• 52:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Roy was who she was engaged to while Jim was in love with her.

• 52:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god.

• 52:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, that's Dave!

• 52:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Dave is Roy, Roy is Dave. Finkel is Iorn.

• 52:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Roy would be so pissed if he met a woman that was sleeping with somebody up until they met. Like, he is so toxic.

• 52:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god. Okay, we got there, you guys.

• 52:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Damn.

• 52:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  We ended strong.

• 52:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm excited for the next couple of episodes to unfold.

• 52:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, oh my gosh. Thank you guys for listening. You can check us out at girlsgottaeat.com. We are Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. Check out our fun reels. Check out our cabinet pics. Those have been taking off on the reels. I am Ash Hess on Instagram, ashhess.com. On tour, so you can get tickets there. Reina is Rayna greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube, share this episode with a friend, and we will see you Monday.

• 53:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good weekend, guys.

• 53:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye!