Chris Harris, Sam Fane, Jason Fenske, Jack Holmes

Matt Farah and Zack Klapman talk about Tesla's weird earnings call; EV trucks sales are not living up to expectations; a new intake that's legal-ish. Then, Matt does 5 rapid-fire questions in Spain with some of the biggest names in YouTube: Chris Harris, Jason Fenske (Engineering Explained), Sam Fane (Seen Through Glass), and Jack Holmes (Savage Geese). Recorded October 24, 2025 and also last week in Spain Show Notes: Hello Fresh Go to https://www. HelloFresh.com/smokingtire10fm now to Get 10 Free Meals + a Free breakfast for Life! One per box with active subscription. Quince Go to https://www.quince.com/tire for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. Liquid IV Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to https://www.liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first order with code TIRE at checkout. New merch! Grab a shirt or hoodie and support us! https://thesmokingtireshop.com/ Use Off The Record! and ALWAYS fight your tickets! For a 10% discount on your first case go to https://www.offtherecord.com/TST Want your question answered? Want to watch the live stream, get ad-free podcasts, or exclusive podcasts? Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thesmokingtirepodcast Instagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

  What's up everybody, welcome to the Smoking Tire Podcast. Matt Farah here and today's episode is brought to you as always by Off the Record. We love Off the Record and you guys do too based on the number of emails I get from people who say that they completely got those points off of their record defeating the government in court and getting those tickets dismissed. I love Off the Record. They're always looking out for me. I have full confidence when I drive on the highway that a qualified legal team in nearly any jurisdiction can look out for me if I get pulled over. So I don't plead guilty, I've

• 0:38Matt Farah?

  got Off the Record and you can get them too. Go to offtherecord.com/tst. That's offtherecord.com/tst and you'll get 10% off all legal services using Off the Record. One more time, offtherecord.com/tst. Make sure you do it. Don't plead guilty and we are looking out for you. Alright folks, on this episode of the show, we talk about Elon Musk's insane earnings call and the fact that electric pickup trucks are not doing so well. Plus, I've got a four-round, lightning round of podcasting with some of your favorite content creators from the Asgari

• 1:20Matt Farah?

  circuit, including Chris Harris, Jason Fenske, Sam Fain, and Jack Holmes. And we have some amazing questions, including someone calling me out on the Smoking Tire Podcast. Those are cheap but far too expensive.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Yes, invaluable but inexpensive. Yes, but too expensive. They should be two cents.

• 1:42Matt Farah?

  They should be two cents. Instead, they're like 50 cents each or something. That's like, that's almost as egregious as the foamies that go over the GoPros.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, the, like those $6?

• 1:54Matt Farah?

  Those should be 50 cents. It's, for those, hi everybody. You know what really grounds my gears?

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Dude, I told you, the plastic pushpins that hold my, parts of my interior in are $4.95 each.

• 2:07Matt Farah?

  So this, this is really like, you know, you want to talk about a good legal scam?

• 2:14Matt Farah?

  And when I say scam, I don't mean like actually like doing crimes, but like when you like, it's like AI proof. You know what I mean? Like when you find like a little thing that people fucking need, you know, and maybe ideally they use it for business, some kind of business. But like we're like, we're just this thing like we use these foamy covers for the GoPros and they're just foam, like the shittiest foam possible, basically. Um, and it covers the GoPros, but it's a pretty good when we get the exhaust audio clip.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  It's a windstop, basically.

• 2:51Matt Farah?

  It's a windstop.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  People used to glue little cat fur, not little, but like they would glue that stuff to the top of their microphone.

• 2:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 2:57Speaker 01

  And then they started selling ones that were pre-made with glue and now you just wrap the whole thing in foam. It's like purpose built for this.

• 3:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and up to about 80 miles an hour, pretty good.

• 3:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:06Matt Farah?

  Beyond that, not much hope for you.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:08Matt Farah?

  Um, but, but anyway, they, they, they must cost fractions of a penny to make and they cost multiple dollars to buy.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:17Matt Farah?

  And they don't weigh anything. You can crush 20 of them into a fucking the size of a racquetball, you know?

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, shipping them costs nothing.

• 3:26Matt Farah?

  Making them costs nothing, shipping them costs nothing, you know, but like, but if you need them.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  And then there's like R and D, you know, they had to cover that, but they covered that a long time ago.

• 3:35Matt Farah?

  Yes, the R and D of like someone had to 3D. We've been using the same one since GoPro 11.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  That's very true. Yeah, they're kind of the same size and shape. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah.

• 3:48Matt Farah?

  And look, my wife is now in the fucking cellphone cover business. So like, I know the economics of this kind of shit.

• 3:56Matt Farah?

  Anyway, hi, uh, another podcast. If you're with us two days in a row live, God bless you. Love it. I have a little more brain power today because I managed a fabulous sleep strategy.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  I'm very impressed that you slept the whole flight, basically, and then didn't, and then were able to fall asleep on time.

• 4:15Matt Farah?

  I slept half the flight. But when I got home, I went for like a mile and a half walk with Hannah. Then I did cardio, forty-five minutes. Then we went out to dinner. And I had an espresso at like three o'clock. Uh, and like by nine or so, I was pretty much like tripping.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:37Matt Farah?

  Uh, and I went, laid down at nine thirty and I was fucking out until five fifty AM. So, yeah, pretty good.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 4:46Matt Farah?

  Pretty good, pretty fucking smooth. Out and back, you know? If I was in Spain for a couple of days longer, five days instead of three. Cause the one day I was on the ground there, the driving day, I was cracked out as a fuck.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're just cranking coffee.

• 5:00Matt Farah?

  Dude, ripping espressos. I was, when I left to go do the drive in the morning, like we left the hotel, it was still dark. And, uh, and, uh, I was like loopy, real loopy. Didn't sleep great that night and, uh.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  Adrenaline kicks in also. So I'm kinda, see, I'm happy I'm going to South Korea next week for Hyundai, some Hyundai stuff. And I'm glad it's a longer trip because I can kinda acclimate.

• 5:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  But also that means the return is gonna be way worse.

• 5:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah. But, uh, here we is, we got, I got things to fucking talk about. Um, the, uh, we did show and tell yesterday, uh, and this, this cup holder replacement thing. Um, I put it in the car. It's perfect fit, perfect fit for the cup, for the Porsche cup. The, uh, the texture of the plastic is not, you can see there's a slight texture difference. From one part to the other, but like honestly, like doesn't really bother me if you're, it's, it's not.

• 5:59Speaker 01

  And the cup holder, the new thing where it mounts, does it like, it like locks in? Cause they took out like a change tray, right?

• 6:05Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  And does it lock in pretty well?

• 6:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's, oh, it's in there. Yeah, that's not, it's not coming out. Yeah, it's like a install. Um, uh, so the cup holder itself is not coming out. Um, and if, if the cup is in it, as you, if you look at my Instagram, if the cup's in the thing. Obviously it's like tall and you have to sort of like backhand shift just like a nine nine two or actually like a last gen Mustang.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:29Matt Farah?

  Um.

• 6:31Matt Farah?

  And that's annoying, but you do have the, you still got the two on the dash.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  You shift like you're reaching into a bag of chips, like at a party, you're like, oh yeah, I'll take a few.

• 6:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah, um, but uh, if the cup is not in there, it doesn't get in the way at all. And in fact, is a much bigger storage tray and will fit my phone standing up in there as well. Uh, which is nice.

• 6:51Speaker 01

  That is very handy.

• 6:52Matt Farah?

  And then also I've got the, uh, installed the built by Basil, uh, wood, ash wood and skateboard deck. Shift knob, which is fucking cool, feels really nice in my hands.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:03Matt Farah?

  I have to have, um, the boot, see the boot is like, looks like it's a little too much material now.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 7:09Matt Farah?

  The, the old knob, the stock knob goes over. The boot.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 7:14Matt Farah?

  You know what I mean? Like it, it goes over the top.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 7:17Matt Farah?

  At there, so you, so the material goes like up inside the knob.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, comes higher.

• 7:21Matt Farah?

  Whereas this one, it's a, it's a, it's a shaft and it cups the shaft, it cups the shaft.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  You got, and you need to trim the velvet back.

• 7:29Matt Farah?

  I gotta go to, uh, Arstrata and they're gonna like, just like stitch it up real nice. So it's not like super sloppy.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  It's just a little baggy.

• 7:37Matt Farah?

  A little baggy.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 7:38Matt Farah?

  A little baggy right now.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  But I bet the wooden knob feels, oh, here's a better shot of that.

• 7:41Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm. So, uh, it was like, I don't know, it was a hundred and fifty bucks maybe. It's obviously like 3D printed, um, and I think it's advertised as being 3D printed, but, uh, it feels like really nice quality. Um, yeah, as you can see, the texture's not exactly the same, but it's close enough.

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Really close.

• 8:00Matt Farah?

  It's really close and it, the, the shape and like, look up the 992 cup holder, like it looks exactly like that. Like it looks pretty factory.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  I wonder if it's actually that the cup holder plastic is fresher and it's, cause yours looks slightly grayer.

• 8:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  So maybe it will like catch up in the sun.

• 8:17Matt Farah?

  Hands have worn it down.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  Well, no, it's sun exposure, you know, I don't know.

• 8:22Matt Farah?

  No, I think the Porsche, the Porsche one is a little, is a little softer finish.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 8:27Matt Farah?

  But it's, it's totally cool. I'm very stoked on that product. And the shift knob feels really, really nice. I had with the, with the, I, this Alcantara shift knob. That's no good.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:38Matt Farah?

  That's no good.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  It'll just smooth and grease up.

• 8:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and I'm, and I'm just constantly conscious of like, oh, my hand is like a little sweaty, like, oh, hold it up to air, like, I don't want my sweaty hand on the shit now, who gives a shit?

• 8:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. Is the cup sitting slightly tilted backwards?

• 8:55Matt Farah?

  No, it's this, the photo, the angle of the photo.

• 8:58Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 8:58Matt Farah?

  No, the cup is not, is not backwards. It's actually, no. Um, it, the, the opening of the thing tilts slightly backwards, but the cup stands vertical.

• 9:08Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 9:09Matt Farah?

  Like, the top of the, of the deal is like in, in, more in line with the angle of the dash. But I think the other photo shows it like a little better. There's like one.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Oops.

• 9:20Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  I have gone too far.

• 9:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, okay, the photo looked.

• 9:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah. It's, and it is a little misleading because the part, the part that's closest is like the sippy part, which like is lower. Anyway.

• 9:33Speaker 01

  Gotcha.

• 9:33Matt Farah?

  It's cool.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 9:35Matt Farah?

  It's cool. I wouldn't put like an uncovered glass in.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  I wouldn't do that with anything.

• 9:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah, uh, so that's fun. Um, dude, I, okay. Trigger warning. I read some of the Tesla earnings call. This is

• 9:55Matt Farah?

  one of the craziest fucking quotes I've heard out of Elon Musk since he left, quote, left the government, right?

• 10:08Matt Farah?

  So the mission is going beyond sustainable energy to say sustainable abundance is the mission, where we believe with optimists and self-driving that you can actually create a world where there's no poverty, where everyone has access to the finest medical care. Optimists will be an incredible surgeon, for example, and imagine if everyone had access to an incredible surgeon.

• 10:33Matt Farah?

  Tesla was down thirty-seven percent and he went on a fucking phone call and did a hail mary of my robots that were humans in suits a year ago are going to be doing surgery.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  And their head of robotics left two months ago to go work for Meta. I mean, there's more people that work there, obviously, but uh.

• 10:52Matt Farah?

  That's fucking crazy. Meanwhile, they recalled thirteen thousand Model Threes and Model Ys over a battery defect and sixty-three thousand Cybertrucks.

• 11:01Speaker 01

  What is so amazing about that and the, you know, uh, Bernie Sanders thought point warning is he's like, the product I'm going to make and sell can solve poverty and you're like, or you could just donate enough money.

• 11:14Matt Farah?

  Well, that's the thing is he probably himself could solve a lot of poverty. Like a huge amount of poverty. He did this at the same time he asked for a trillion dollars. Like one side of the mouth is we're gonna have a world with no poverty, but I'm gonna need a trillion dollars.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's the comp package he's negotiating for.

• 11:35Matt Farah?

  Which is like, and if all this, like, a lot of what this guy does is cut programs that help people get out of poverty. Like there's those shit, USAID, like all these programs that like were supposed to help people get out of poverty. I'm not even talking about donating his full-on own money, which he wouldn't, he could fucking do fifty mil.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  He could do fifty billion.

• 11:57Matt Farah?

  I'm sorry. I said million because that's like a more normal thing. He could do fifty billion and just go about his day and bump a rail of ketamine and fucking have a good night, you know? Um, oh, and they, they reintroduced, uh, the Mad Max mode to the.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  What's the Mad Max mode?

• 12:16Matt Farah?

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• 16:05Speaker 01

  Oh, so this mirrors real model three drivers.

• 16:07Matt Farah?

  Dude, yeah, and like, and like they, uh, there was like a real problem because like when they had it before, like the cars were breaking all these fucking laws and shit. They were rolling through, they were doing the California roll, which like the human does a California roll like, listen, but you can't sell a product that just rolls through stop signs.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can't do that.

• 16:29Matt Farah?

  Like.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  Cause then we know that if it hits someone, they're gonna say the human did it, not Mad Max.

• 16:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, Mad Max mode, mad, that's fucking crazy.

• 16:38Speaker 01

  I wonder how, do you think, who owns Mad Max property, like Warner Brothers? Do you think they license that? They're, they're on the phone.

• 16:44Matt Farah?

  And oh, by the way, they're, yeah, they've violated their trademark.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  Right, yeah.

• 16:48Matt Farah?

  They probably fucking would. That's just, all of it's just terrible.

• 16:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:53Matt Farah?

  Trillionaire. They're gonna, there, this guy, this guy, that fucking asshole should get to be a trillionaire. Eat a dick.

• 17:01Speaker 01

  I mean, I.

• 17:02Matt Farah?

  Fucking garbage world.

• 17:04Speaker 01

  No, yeah, nobody should, well, uh, yeah, that's just too much, that's too much. Unnecessary.

• 17:09Matt Farah?

  Have we even, has someone even done, you know, you see, I've seen the drawing over and over of like a pile of money that's like a hundred thousand and a million, ten mil, and you, when it gets to billion, has anyone done one for a trillion yet?

• 17:22Speaker 01

  I've seen them for, um, well, there was a great graphic that was done for a video about like what derivatives are. And so they did one of like, here's how much money is in every bank account, here's the Federal Reserve, whatever. And it was like, here, if you stack cash to represent all of the derivatives trading in the world, and it was like, it was like putting the Burj Khalifa next to a nice, like a suburban neighborhood for the other piles of cash. It was totally insane. Um, what the, a trillion dollars look like.

• 17:51Matt Farah?

  Yeah, let's just keep doing this. This is a, this is a good idea. Oh, there, a trillion, a trillion dollars visualized off of, yeah, let's go to the Reddit one, that might have been made by a human and not AI.

• 18:03Matt Farah?

  Let's see, okay, the, a million is like a shoebox sized pile, uh,

• 18:11Speaker 01

  There we go.

• 18:11Matt Farah?

  Double, what does it say, double stacked pallets?

• 18:14Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 18:15Matt Farah?

  Okay, okay, so a million is like a shoebox, a hundred million is, is one pallet. Like those big water bottle pallets I get.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, like what you see going into home, uh, Costco or something, yeah.

• 18:28Matt Farah?

  And it's like, uh, four by four by four, maybe, four feet square. A billion.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  Looks like it's ten of those.

• 18:35Matt Farah?

  Ten of those giant pallets.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  One, two, three, yeah, ten of those next to each other.

• 18:40Matt Farah?

  And then a trillion is basically

• 18:45Matt Farah?

  the square footage of like a big grocery store.

• 18:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:49Matt Farah?

  This is like, like.

• 18:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, with a human for scale, it's almost like a grocery store, but all the pallets are double stacked.

• 18:57Matt Farah?

  So it's two, it's like a Costco.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 18:59Matt Farah?

  Or like, like a small, a Walmart.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, so each one of these layers is five hundred billion dollars. I mean, wow.

• 19:06Matt Farah?

  Dude. Oh, go look that graphic up.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Because of the job creation that the robots.

• 19:12Matt Farah?

  He's trying to eliminate.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  I know, I know.

• 19:15Matt Farah?

  The, the perversion of that and, and, yeah, yep.

• 19:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:21Matt Farah?

  Should watch some more news this week about the cost of convenience. Good one. Um, cars then.

• 19:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:28Matt Farah?

  How about cars?

• 19:28Speaker 01

  You know what robots could not do? Did we ever talk about the intake I installed? Do we?

• 19:33Matt Farah?

  I mean, we talked about, you were halfway through. I don't know if you ever-

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Finished it.

• 19:36Matt Farah?

  You finished the story.

• 19:37Speaker 01

  I finished the intake.

• 19:38Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  A robot could not install this because you have to get your arm in and over and around and under and do all kinds of things.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  And that makes, I mean, mechanics out there should be pretty happy. Like, your job is pretty secure. You're like the plumbers without leaving smelling like actual fecal matter. And that should give you some comfort as the robots approach. Yeah, this thing's awesome. It's an Aventuri hybrid airbox for E- the E46s.

• 20:07Matt Farah?

  You work my fucking flashlight?

• 20:11Speaker 01

  Well, I have, I realize I don't have enough lights in my garage.

• 20:14Matt Farah?

  Like, it looks like, it looks like your garage is incredibly poorly lit.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  It is. Someone made a great comment in my Instagram that was like, this garage is lit by 150 watt bulb. And then I, I asked people what they use in their garage and I got a lot of very helpful, but like a lot of DMs of these lights I can order, which I'm going to. Cause I realized that when I, when I turn the light on and I'm not in the garage, like the car's not in the garage, I go, it's lit so nicely.

• 20:40Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  It's all, when you pull the car in and lift the hood.

• 20:43Matt Farah?

  It's gotta be dark.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Well, it shades the light. The light is the sun and the hood is the shade. So under, in the engine bay, can't see anything.

• 20:50Matt Farah?

  And you don't want to work the other way around. You don't want to back up-

• 20:53Speaker 01

  It wouldn't help because the, the light is central above. So either way, I'm not seeing anything.

• 20:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 21:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:01Matt Farah?

  I have those, those scan grip detailing lights here you can use if you need them in the interim.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  Uh, thank you. I bought some magnet lights which are good. Headlamp is really the way to go. And I, I might get some of these like, lights you can hang, like $30, LEDs and stuff.

• 21:16Matt Farah?

  You could really vibe it out. Get some chain, you know, some string lights.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  I thought we, I was like, Sarah, do we still have those string lights? She goes, we just gave them away. Otherwise, I would, it would look like Christmas in my garage just because I need to be able to see, you know, RGB lights.

• 21:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we don't have studio lights anymore.

• 21:35Speaker 01

  Oh, like the big-

• 21:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we sold our studio lights.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I should have taken them from that Lemons team that wasn't using them. But this thing's awesome, dude. It, it sounds way better. It's like halfway between stock and a CSL airbox.

• 21:47Matt Farah?

  Is it more like a "wah" or like a "wah"?

• 21:50Speaker 01

  It's that one. It's the second one. Yep.

• 21:51Matt Farah?

  That's what you want.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  That's what I wanted. It's nice. But once you're cruising, it's not loud. And because it still uses the MAF sensor, like I turned it on, it learned for about six hours and then it figured it all out. And I'm very, very happy about it. Yeah.

• 22:06Matt Farah?

  Cool.

• 22:07Speaker 01

  Looks good.

• 22:07Matt Farah?

  Is it, um, is it, um, you know?

• 22:11Speaker 01

  Legal?

• 22:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  It's a good question.

• 22:14Matt Farah?

  Is there an EO sticker on it?

• 22:16Speaker 01

  There's not. They're working on that.

• 22:19Matt Farah?

  How long do you have until?

• 22:22Speaker 01

  Until the smog?

• 22:23Matt Farah?

  Until that becomes a problem.

• 22:24Speaker 01

  Well, I smogged my car two months ago or something like that, so I have a while.

• 22:27Matt Farah?

  You got a little bit.

• 22:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. But what's funny is like-

• 22:29Matt Farah?

  I'm not trying to blow up your spot.

• 22:30Speaker 01

  No, it's fine.

• 22:30Matt Farah?

  Just like, you know.

• 22:31Speaker 01

  Like, I should, if they plug into the OBD2, it should be fine. Because it still uses an MAF. Like, it doesn't change my emissions at all. But if they open the hood.

• 22:41Matt Farah?

  Of course they open the hood!

• 22:43Speaker 01

  I don't know. Don't they just plug it in? I don't watch them.

• 22:46Matt Farah?

  I, well, listen.

• 22:49Speaker 01

  We'll see.

• 22:49Matt Farah?

  New shooter! New shooter coming in.

• 22:52Speaker 01

  It would be very ironic if I went through all this trouble to get like the most legal version of an intake and then it's still actually like a little on the line.

• 22:59Matt Farah?

  Legal just means it has a sticker on it. That's all it means.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Well, the one they sent me was, was prototype.

• 23:04Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 23:05Speaker 01

  They're very close to production, so maybe they can send me an EO sticker.

• 23:08Matt Farah?

  I'm not trying to blow up your spot.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  No, it's a good question.

• 23:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah. No, they could. They could. If it does, if it does get certified in California, they can send you a sticker. I got them from Dynan for my, my Dynan shit.

• 23:22Matt Farah?

  Because my car, my BMW, had Dynan S1 stuff on it that was sold to a car. The car was sold outside of California, so it didn't need the stickers. But it would pass, so they sent me the stickers, which put on the car and it was fine.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 23:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Speaking of robots, though. The other day, I was, I got off the highway. Did I tell you this story yesterday? No.

• 23:45Matt Farah?

  I think so.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  I'm getting off the highway, I throw the car in neutral just to like coast and the car dies while turning very slightly. So I punch in a chat GPT and I'm like, here's what my car, here's what my car did. Like it died while coasting in neutral with slight amount of steering angle while braking. And I just changed intake and these other things and it, it's like, I think it's your ICAV valve or something, which directly controls your computer when the car is idling. It basically tells the car, here's how much electricity and power you need to run the systems that are being, that are demanding power.

• 24:16Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  While the car is idling.

• 24:17Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  And I went, oh, that's cool. That does seem exactly like what happened.

• 24:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  Guess where that valve is located, Matt?

• 24:23Matt Farah?

  Right back where you just was.

• 24:24Speaker 01

  Directly underneath the intake plenum.

• 24:26Matt Farah?

  No. Fucking.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  I moved it out of the way. Like I, I, I touched it. I saw it. I know where it is. But it's under the plenum.

• 24:32Matt Farah?

  Do you think it has failed or do you think you may have reinstalled it improperly?

• 24:35Speaker 01

  I didn't actually uninstall that thing. It just says that they get dirty. You can just clean them out with, with MAF cleaner.

• 24:41Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  Which I have, but it means.

• 24:43Matt Farah?

  How mu- how many hours are we talking about?

• 24:45Speaker 01

  What?

• 24:47Matt Farah?

  Uh. First, did it restarted, right?

• 24:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, it did immediately. No, it's like, it's only, only when coasting in neutral, under braking with gentle turn.

• 24:55Matt Farah?

  Oh, okay.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  It's very, very specific.

• 24:57Matt Farah?

  Um. You asked everything of the car without enough juice going to the alternator to supply it.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. So it'll, it would probably take me

• 25:08Speaker 01

  three hours.

• 25:09Matt Farah?

  Oh, that sucks.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  I know.

• 25:13Matt Farah?

  Well, like it might go, do you think it'll go faster because you've done it before?

• 25:16Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 25:17Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 25:17Speaker 01

  Which I'm getting really good at that. Every repair I've done on this car, I've done twice to do once.

• 25:25Matt Farah?

  God, that sucks.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  I'm learning stuff.

• 25:27Matt Farah?

  You are, you're getting, you're learning things and stuff.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  And then eventually I'll sell that car and I'll, I'll have to learn all over again on something else. So anyway, um, I like the intake a lot, but I have to fucking clean that valve. Yeah.

• 25:39Matt Farah?

  Oh dude, that's funny. What are we at for time right now?

• 25:42Speaker 01

  We're at 21.

• 25:43Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool. Uh, the only, only other thing, have you noticed, uh, like electric pickup trucks haven't seemed to have worked out? Like Ford is idling the lightning plant. Rivian is like, just like laid off, you know, like 600 people. Cybertruck is.

• 26:03Matt Farah?

  Like, it seems that electric pickup trucks are not being mass adopted in a way that is really working out.

• 26:16Matt Farah?

  I mean.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Well, wow.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  Well, maybe this is, uh.

• 26:26Matt Farah?

  I mean, it's just like, it's, they thought it was gonna be like hundreds of thousands of trucks. So it's like tens of thousands of trucks.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Got it, yeah. Twenty hours ago, Ford halts the Lightning production to focus on gas. Well, also, uh, with rebates going away, that's not gonna help them sell more of these things.

• 26:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and the recall thing said it was sixty-three thousand Cybertrucks, which is all of them. And so like, that's the total.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 26:49Matt Farah?

  So, of two million orders, they converted sixty-three thousand.

• 26:52Speaker 01

  That's a good ratio.

• 26:54Matt Farah?

  Point oh six three percent, no, point oh two three? No, it's half that. Point oh three one five percent?

• 27:02Speaker 01

  Uh, I think that's right.

• 27:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah, from two million to sixty-three thousand is point oh three one five, right?

• 27:09Speaker 01

  Well, that's, that's better than point oh two. That's terrible.

• 27:12Matt Farah?

  That's not great.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  So, I wonder why, I mean, they were expensive, the electric trucks.

• 27:18Matt Farah?

  I mean, Rivian, I think the R1, R1T is just old and people are waiting to, everyone who has one, who wants one has one.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 27:26Matt Farah?

  And like, people are waiting on the R2.

• 27:29Speaker 01

  Right.

• 27:29Matt Farah?

  Um, that's why they said they laid off all those people, but still, like, you know, if they were really killing it, they wouldn't be laying off people, is all I'm saying. I think Rivian is not financially in great shape.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  So, I just couldn't remember what the Lightning cost, fifty, fifty-four grand in ninety-two, depending, um, yeah, I mean, that, if you lose the seventy-five hundred dollar rebate, which everyone's losing for EVs.

• 27:53Matt Farah?

  I mean, I see Lightnings around in LA, but I suspect they're not getting a lot of the commercial adoption that Ford was hoping they would get.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  They expected, yeah.

• 28:02Matt Farah?

  Which is too bad. I think there are, I think there actually are, and I'm like. From a lib west coaster, what do I know about a fucking trades person? Uh, my contractor who built my house, who was like, you fucking, Laron is as trades person as it gets, dude. That guy like, was a contractor, but like physically built like half my house. He just got a F-150 hybrid and like loves it with the uh,

• 28:30Speaker 01

  Power boost one. I like that truck a lot.

• 28:32Matt Farah?

  Yeah, he's all about that shit.

• 28:33Speaker 01

  Because then you, you get the power, you can run all the power tools and stuff, which was one of the lightning selling points.

• 28:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 28:39Speaker 01

  But you also have unlimited range. You can go, you don't have to worry about charging and planning and that kind of stuff.

• 28:43Matt Farah?

  He got like an amazing deal on it.

• 28:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:45Matt Farah?

  But he prob- he probably could have, like, he would have made use of a lightning also, cause he's not like, he's not running that many power tools, but like, he, but it would be nice to have power for the sometimes.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Well, how far is he usually driving in a day? I think that would also be a factor.

• 29:01Matt Farah?

  Not that far. His work is in LA. He's driving, you know, across the city to a job and then back to his house, you know, forty miles a day, fifty miles a day, not far.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  I wonder if they sold more electric trucks from any manufacturer in, uh, like, uh, city areas versus out in open areas where people are driving hundreds of miles.

• 29:20Matt Farah?

  Probably. Yeah, it's too, true. Um, but like, even if you drive, if you're driving 200 miles a day, like, you could charge that overnight. You can do 200 miles overnight at your house with a level two.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, definitely. If you're always doing the same route, you know, but if you're out like, I don't know, job, job, job, or like, so these guys are out doing like, you know, fracking stuff, natural gas work and they just don't know.

• 29:41Matt Farah?

  If you're really doing 300 miles a fucking day, you don't want an electric car of any kind. Like, that's the, that's the one use case, like extreme. But that, dude, your body is gonna get fucking fucked up if so bad, if you're doing 300 miles a day. Find a new job. Your body's going to fall apart. If that's your, if you actually.

• 29:58Speaker 01

  I wonder, I'm just curious. Okay, so, right, so in quarter-

• 30:04Matt Farah?

  For the record, in a pickup truck, if you're in a semi, I think it's a little more-

• 30:07Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Probably. So quarter three of this year, Ford sold 207,000 F-Series.

• 30:12Matt Farah?

  Uh huh.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  And I think we just saw that they sold 10,000 Lightning in quarter three. So, they're selling 20 times, right, more gas or diesel powered trucks. Yeah, that's, I guess that's a failure. That sucks.

• 30:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and they-

• 30:26Speaker 01

  True is.

• 30:27Matt Farah?

  Just maybe, maybe I should get one for fucking cheap if they go on sale.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Uh, a used one would probably be very cheap, but then you don't get the depreciation, right?

• 30:37Matt Farah?

  Uh, no-

• 30:37Speaker 01

  For taxes and stuff.

• 30:38Matt Farah?

  You can depreciate used stuff?

• 30:40Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 30:41Matt Farah?

  For a business expense?

• 30:42Speaker 01

  Yeah. Although it had to be new.

• 30:43Matt Farah?

  Hmm, I don't, I mean, look, don't take fucking tax advice from me, but, um, the Bentley, the Bentley was a company car, long-term test car, made content out of it, took depreciation on that. I mean, that was a fucking 30-year-old car.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 31:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 31:03Speaker 01

  I need to learn more about the tax code.

• 31:06Matt Farah?

  I mean, I think if it's, I don't know if it's personal or business, I, I, listen, I don't fucking know shit. You do not want to ask me questions, but I do, I can tell you what-

• 31:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:17Matt Farah?

  A very qualified, you know, tax accountant did.

• 31:21Speaker 01

  I feel like, uh, we did that show with John McGuire, go listen to that, because I think we talked about this, but it was years ago, I forgot.

• 31:26Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I think if it's for a business, you can do, because like, think about how many businesses buy used tractors, used, you know what I mean? Not everybody can afford brand-new shit. You have to be able to depreciate. It's usually just like, what'd you buy it for? What'd you sell it for? And how long did you own it for? Like, that's pretty much it.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 31:46Matt Farah?

  That one math problem probably takes 50 pages of paperwork to do, but like- So, listen, it is at this point during the show that for our live audience right now, we're gonna fucking travel through time, but for everybody else, while I was in Spain doing this Turbo S thing, it was like so many friends there that I was like, well, I have to, there's so many people there that I don't see all the time that I should at least record something. So, I did, I got four of them, unfortunately, Tom Ford, I didn't realize that he wasn't like returning to where I was, I would have made a point

• 32:25Matt Farah?

  to get him. So, I didn't get to get Tom Ford, who was fucking cool. But, I got Sam Fane, Seen Through Glass, Jason Fenske from Engineering Explained, Chris Harris, and Jack Holmes from Savage Geese. And we did, I did individually, because everyone was busy, so individually, we did five-question podcast lightning round. So, it was really fun, got some really good answers from people. I got to do, they all did 60 seconds for me on the Turbo S, so you can get a summary of their reviews right here in this show. And then, we will come

• 33:05Matt Farah?

  back and we'll do some Patreon questions after that. So, enjoy, live from Asgari Circuit in Spain. Guys, one more break from the show because support is coming in from Quince. I actually did bring the Mongolian cashmere sweater to Spain with me, and it was awesome. The cashmere felt very similar to a very famous brand, a fashion house that my dad used to work for, and I had a lot of cashmere from them, and this was just like it, starting at just $60. There's classic fit denim, real leather and wool outerwear, looks sharp and holds up. I'm now looking at that suede trucker jacket, perfect for layering, and

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• 34:38Speaker 02

  Hello, sir.

• 34:39Matt Farah?

  Hello. Jack of Savage Geese is here. No Mark today unfortunately.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  Mark stayed at home.

• 34:44Matt Farah?

  But Jack, he's faster.

• 34:48Matt Farah?

  Um, okay. Uh, what we're doing right now is we're doing podcast lightning round because so many of the people that I like are here. Uh, we, we thought we'd do a few minutes with everybody, starting with you. So I'm asking everybody the same questions. Best and worst cars you've driven this year?

• 35:05Speaker 02

  The best two, and I'm currently deciding between both of them, is Mustang GTD and C8ZR1.

• 35:11Matt Farah?

  Those are tough.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 35:12Matt Farah?

  And worst, is there a solid worst?

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Probably most disappointing is probably the new M5.

• 35:19Matt Farah?

  New M5. I, uh, drove the M5 touring. Wasn't my favorite. Does good slides, but wasn't my favorite.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  I, disappointing because my expectations were high. I don't think it's inherently a terrible car. I just wanted it to be more like the M5CS.

• 35:34Matt Farah?

  Fair enough. Um, we're here doing Turbo S today. This will not go up until after the embargo, so I won't throw you under the bus. Give me, uh, give me 30, 60 seconds on Turbo S.

• 35:44Speaker 02

  It is everything you're expecting a new 911 Turbo S to be. It is basically an iterative improvement of the old car with even more impressive drivetrain technology, a more sophisticated chassis, and it does everything well. Does it have the drama of a GT car? No, but if you need a do everything supercar, that's exactly what it is.

• 36:03Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm. This one is for everything.

• 36:05Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:05Matt Farah?

  Uh, what, what's coming up on your list that you're excited to drive next or soon?

• 36:10Speaker 02

  Man, honestly, I have no idea. I'm just probably...

• 36:15Matt Farah?

  That's a very normal automotive journalist answer. Can't think after next week.

• 36:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's pretty much where we're at. We're, just like you, we're on the hamster wheel of doing this. So every week is a new adventure.

• 36:24Matt Farah?

  Well, we're getting to the end of the season.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:26Matt Farah?

  Where we've, we've driven all the new stuff.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  What are you looking forward to driving now?

• 36:30Matt Farah?

  Oh, I just did Performance Car of the Year. I just did Zinger. I've driven so much. I'm looking forward to-

• 36:37Speaker 02

  Is there anything you haven't driven this year that you wish you've driven?

• 36:40Matt Farah?

  I really want to have a go in a DLS, and I think my relationship with Willow Springs may make that happen at some point.

• 36:49Speaker 02

  You and I run in different circles, sir, so yes.

• 36:51Matt Farah?

  I mean, look, I can't afford one. I'm just saying, I'd like to have-

• 36:54Speaker 02

  Just giving you a hard time.

• 36:55Matt Farah?

  I did have a go in Singer's Turbo, their turbo study car.

• 36:59Speaker 02

  What about a more production, normal cars?

• 37:02Matt Farah?

  I haven't driven M2CS. I want to try that. I was bummed that didn't make it out to Performance Car of the Year. And I'm really excited, maybe a ways out, for Valhalla, actually, for Aston Valhalla. I hope it shows up eventually. But I like the Astons I've driven recently.

• 37:19Speaker 02

  No, they are spectacular.

• 37:20Matt Farah?

  They're fun. Okay, number four. Describe, and you could do it in specifications or however, your version of the perfect fizzy sports car.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  High-revving, naturally aspirated, rear-wheel drive.

• 37:34Matt Farah?

  Where's the engine?

• 37:35Speaker 02

  It's either in the rear or in the front.

• 37:38Matt Farah?

  Oh, not middle?

• 37:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, rear or front. I inherently enjoy, one of the things I like about the GTD, and I wish it was a manual, is the fact that there's nothing else like it. You have this big, supercharged, I know it's not an NA car, but you have this big engine in the front that's very linear. And I think that's what I enjoy in cars. I like cars that make me laugh.

• 37:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, for me, the car's got to really have a personality, you know, and so I don't know if the Turbo S is the car for me, because it goes about everything.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  But it doesn't have to be for you.

• 38:10Matt Farah?

  So, seriously, no, it's not for me. Someone will love this thing. But I like insane. Okay, last one. You have a month of freedom. You don't have to work. You don't have to do anything. You don't have to film. And you have pretend money. You're going on a road trip. Where are you going and what are you driving?

• 38:28Speaker 02

  Man.

• 38:30Matt Farah?

  Not your car. It doesn't have to be your car.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  I understand that.

• 38:33Matt Farah?

  You're giving the car back. The car only, the car doesn't have to exist after this month.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  Probably, I'd love to take a 911 SD through like the Swiss Alps.

• 38:44Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm.

• 38:45Speaker 02

  I think that's very high on my list of-

• 38:47Matt Farah?

  That is not the wrong answer.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 38:49Matt Farah?

  That is all right, yeah. Alright, five questions with Jack from Savage Geese.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  Hopefully this was not the worst thing you've done so far.

• 38:55Matt Farah?

  The worst thing I've done so far?

• 38:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:57Matt Farah?

  Not today. Sam Fain is here. This, this launch is awesome because it sucked to get here, but I love it here and all my friends are here.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  Well, that's fantastic.

• 39:08Matt Farah?

  So we get to do five minutes with everybody.

• 39:10Speaker 03

  I'm happy you're here.

• 39:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah, Sam Fain, lightning round.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  Go.

• 39:14Matt Farah?

  Best and worst cars you've driven this year.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  Oh God, don't do this to me. Um, worst car. Where's my phone? I need to remind myself what I've driven.

• 39:24Matt Farah?

  Nothing stood out as being particularly bad?

• 39:27Speaker 03

  I forget. Do you not do this in this job?

• 39:29Matt Farah?

  No, I know.

• 39:30Speaker 03

  I have no idea what I've driven. I got in a car that day and I was like, I've never driven this. And my hoardings are like, hey, what about these three videos you made? So let's, uh, let's actually go back and think about-

• 39:38Matt Farah?

  We can go the other way. What stood out as being great?

• 39:41Speaker 03

  Did I genuinely need my phone? Okay, Audi RS6 GT.

• 39:44Matt Farah?

  Oh, interesting.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Because I owned the standard car and never bonded with it. And the GT just did something to me that, you know what it was? It was the fact that it looked so stupid. I just, like, I bonded with that because I just liked that it was out there and it was good and it felt a bit edgy. So that was cool.

• 39:58Matt Farah?

  The RS6 in general is probably, it's probably the credest boring car.

• 40:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's so boring and it's really heavy and like it makes a silly noise and doesn't really do very-

• 40:09Matt Farah?

  It's not fun, but everybody is like, yes.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  Yes, RS6. And that's what stressed me out. Like I had people who weren't into cars come to me like, hey dude, what a cool car. So I guess. I'll think about-

• 40:20Matt Farah?

  Alright, we come back to it. Uh, this will go out after the embargo. So give me 60 seconds on the Turbo S, your impressions.

• 40:26Speaker 03

  Um, I felt sick. I felt motion sickness. Um, they, what I think they've done is just expand the breadth of capabilities, right? It's just better in every single area. I took it to a road that I drove six months ago in my GT3. It felt heavy AF.

• 40:41Matt Farah?

  I bet.

• 40:42Speaker 03

  It felt real heavy.

• 40:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And did you drive the convertible?

• 40:45Speaker 03

  Not yet. I've been driving the coupe.

• 40:47Matt Farah?

  Do you know that the convertible is the first 911 to crack 4,000 pounds? You noticed how they didn't mention weight yesterday?

• 40:53Speaker 03

  Did not mention that.

• 40:54Matt Farah?

  I looked up the spec sheet, it's over four.

• 40:56Speaker 03

  Ew.

• 40:56Matt Farah?

  This is 3829.

• 40:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it felt, I have to say, on a tight and twisty road, it felt real heavy.

• 41:02Matt Farah?

  Right, right.

• 41:02Speaker 03

  But no, otherwise, yeah, mega cool. Not for me, I'm not a turbo guy, but very cool.

• 41:06Matt Farah?

  So fast.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  So fast.

• 41:08Matt Farah?

  So fast. Anything in the schedule through the rest of the year that's really exciting you?

• 41:13Speaker 03

  It would have happened, by the time this goes out, we are doing an OG UK automotive YouTuber road trip.

• 41:20Matt Farah?

  Oh, fun.

• 41:21Speaker 03

  So 10 years ago, myself, Schmee150, Seb Delaney, Supercars London, we all drove down to Monaco in our cars. It's the 10 year anniversary, we're doing it again.

• 41:28Matt Farah?

  Oh, that's fun. Are you gonna drive the GT3?

• 41:30Speaker 03

  I'm driving my Chastel Daley.

• 41:32Matt Farah?

  Oh, yes.

• 41:33Speaker 03

  So that would have already been out, so go check out that content.

• 41:36Matt Farah?

  Okay, cool. That's going out between now and next week?

• 41:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's going out on Sunday.

• 41:39Matt Farah?

  Great, go look at Scene Through Glass for that. Give me your version of the perfect fizzy sports car. Give me an engine configuration.

• 41:48Speaker 03

  It has to be V8, because I just like, I love a V8, so that immediately is less fizzy because it's too heavy. But anyway, V8, naturally aspirated, I was gonna say supercharged, but no, naturally aspirated, V8, manual gearbox.

• 42:05Speaker 03

  Front engine rear wheel drive.

• 42:06Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 42:07Speaker 03

  I've literally just given you a GT.

• 42:09Matt Farah?

  I think you've just given me a Shelby. I think that's a Mustang Shelby 350, right?

• 42:14Speaker 03

  Hey, that's clearly what I like.

• 42:15Matt Farah?

  Okay, last one, and this is your life kind of anyway, but we're gonna expand on it. Unlimited funds, and you have a month of no responsibilities.

• 42:24Speaker 03

  So, how is that my life?

• 42:26Matt Farah?

  No, no, no, not that part, not that part. Because I'm asking, you have a month to take a road trip in a car. That's what I meant by it, not your unlimited funds. A month to take a road trip in a car, you can pick any car, and the car does not exist after this road trip. Where are you going and what are you driving?

• 42:42Speaker 03

  Well, you will relate to this entirely, 9/11 Dakar, Morocco.

• 42:46Matt Farah?

  Oh, that is not the wrong answer.

• 42:48Speaker 03

  Because I did that in my 360 Moderna. I did four days around Morocco, and I fell in love with that country. I fell in love with those roads, and I was like, this car's great here, but it's not the right car.

• 42:57Matt Farah?

  No, the Dakar, yeah, Morocco and a Dakar.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  Dakar, Morocco, all up in it, so that's, yeah.

• 43:01Matt Farah?

  I like that choice a lot. All right. Sam Fain, go watch his video on Scene Through Glass about the YouTuber road trip. Thanks, buddy.

• 43:07Speaker 03

  Thank you, dude, that was fun.

• 43:08Matt Farah?

  That's it, moving on.

• 43:11Matt Farah?

  Shit. Yeah, Jason Fenske in the house. There we go. Just flashing a little cash. I have a Rico Suave. Not bad, not bad. Life's treated me well so far. I got a Maserati, that's 185. All right. Smoke Tire Podcast Lightning Round, five questions. Oh, boy, here we go. You don't have to answer them fast, but they're fast. Oh, OK. I want to know the best car and the worst car you've driven this year. Best car and worst car I've driven this year. OK, immediate thought, because this is Lightning Round, we don't have too much time to process, and I didn't know where we were, you know, what these questions were in advance. My immediate thought of best car was a Temerario. I really enjoyed Temerario. It's like silly, playful.

• 43:55Matt Farah?

  I mean, yeah, it's like 400 grand or whatever, so like. The one I drove was 550. Yeah. I don't know what the one I drove was, but the point is like, I feel like you can get into these cars and you can have a dull experience. Like, it is, that caliber of car can still have a dull experience. And I got in the Temerario, and the way the steering feels, very unlike anything I've driven. Like, the torque vectoring was like the most noticeable torque vectoring I've ever felt in anything, combined with like a super happy tail end, so it was like always ready to slide around. I had so much fun driving that car. I liked that car a lot, too. What were you disappointed by? You spent like 15 minutes at dinner last night talking shit about your own Lucid.

• 44:37Matt Farah?

  I know, well, that's also what immediately came to mind, but I don't want to say Lucid Air, but like, that is, for Lightning Round, my car, I'm gonna have a full video breaking down the absolute disaster mess the software has been to live with. You're like the wrong person to have a software mess on. Oh, man, it is very frustrating. Uh, this won't go out until after the embargo, so give me 60 seconds on the Turbo S. What do you think? Turbo S is super cool. I've really enjoyed this and here's why. I have not, whenever I get into a car that offers a genuinely unique experience, I get excited. Even if like, that experience is good or bad, I like novelty. I think that's cool. That's all we have left, dude.

• 45:22Matt Farah?

  Exactly. So many cars are exactly the same. Novelty is the last bastion of enthusiasm. Yes, and e-turbos are very new to production cars. Like, it is not something common and it is genuinely a unique feeling where that little hiccup that you typically get. I'm getting attacked by a bee. Attacked by, if you get stung by a bee during the day. Yeah, the little hiccup that you typically get with turbo cars where you get to, okay, we've gotten to like atmospheric pressure in the engine. And now we're just waiting for the turbo to do its thing. And it feels like when you floor it, you're like, oh, I'm bogged down a little bit and you're chilling and you're waiting. And then you go into it. That's gone and it, and it's not gone in the same way that a naturally aspirated engine, it's gone. Like naturally aspirated, boom, we're there. This car.

• 46:06Matt Farah?

  It's like hand to god. It is, and it, and it never lets up. So like, yes, there is a torque limit, but it takes a while to get there. But it's kind of in an exciting way where it's like, ooh, we're still climbing, we're still climbing, we're still climbing. And it's just like, you're always getting more, but you don't have that, oh, I gotta wait now. So it's cool. It's unique. I think these e-turbos are incredibly cool. It is, it really is. And when I think about like Temerario, I also like to go back, you know, with the, with the e-motors in the front. Totally different vibe. Totally different strategy, yes. But the, the, the net is the same. You're allowed to, to use a smaller, higher revy engine that can be filled in invisibly almost. Yes. Which I love. Yes.

• 46:50Matt Farah?

  Describe your version of the perfect fizzy sports car. Fizzy sports car. It'll have, what characteristics would be in your perfect car? It's, it's just the 911ST. That's fair. Just describe 911ST. Yeah, just describe it. That's, that's not the wrong answer. It's like, uh. It makes you want to be a better driver because everything is lightning fast. Like it is response. Response is everything to me. I don't care about like top speed. I don't care about, oh, does it have to have like traction, limited acceleration at all times? I care about response. Like does, when I ask for it to do something, does it do it in that moment or later? Yeah, yeah. And that car does everything the exact second you ask for it. And that's just like,

• 47:34Matt Farah?

  it's jarring because of how good it was. Yeah, I totally, I totally agree with you. I drove, you know, I drove that car 1,500 miles and I said, I could just do this. Yeah. You stop here. It's the, I can stop now. I think they're selling for like three quarter mil now though. Yeah, and, and, and I get it if I. I do too. I'm just angry about it. I know. Well, and especially because it seems like they, if they wanted to, they could just make more. Yes, yes. It's, there's nothing that crazy about it. I think there are some little emissions tricks that are going on that you can't do a super high volume car with. That might be true. But, but I think, you know, scarcity is the name of the game with like exclusive stuff, so.

• 48:15Matt Farah?

  Sure. Uh, last one. You have a month of freedom. You have no, no obligations to anything. You have, but you must go on a road trip in a car with this month. Where are we driving and what are we driving? Oh, boy. Okay. I have to, I have to spend time in cars on my month off. I know, right? I, I, when I wrote this question, it didn't occur to me that on my free time, I want to be as far away from cars as possible. Um. Right. It's tax, it's a tax deductible month. Okay, great. Where am I road tripping? Man, this is a good question. Here's the thing. I love wildlife. Um, and, and some of my like, so, so I'm combining a car for, for a reason to do what I actually want to do rather than the car.

• 49:00Matt Farah?

  Okay, okay. So you're going on safari maybe? I'm going on safari, uh, whether that's Kruger or, or somewhere else in Africa. So you're gonna need a stadium seat Land Cruiser essentially, right? That sounds sick. I'm bringing big cameras, giant lenses. I'm checking out wildlife and with a comfy ride. So stadium seat Land Cruiser. Yeah, I'm counting a safari, wildlife safari. Yeah, there we go. All right. Lightning round with Jason Fenske. Thank you for joining us. Yep. Thanks for having me. So this is easy. We're doing lightning round, five questions for the podcast. Yeah. And then you have to go to the airport. Yeah. Uh, here we go. Chris Harris.

• 49:35Speaker 04

  Muffin was good.

• 49:36Matt Farah?

  The muffin is alright, yes. How's the tea?

• 49:38Speaker 04

  Oh, good.

• 49:39Matt Farah?

  I've had 75 espressos, can you tell?

• 49:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:42Matt Farah?

  Alright, number one, I want the best and worst thing you've driven in recent memory.

• 49:48Speaker 04

  Best all round is probably that Turbo today, Turbo S today.

• 49:50Matt Farah?

  There's a separate question on that one, so don't go, don't go too far. This will be after the embargo.

• 49:55Speaker 04

  Uh, Mustang GTD.

• 49:56Matt Farah?

  Oh yeah, so you got to drive it and have a go with Verstappen.

• 49:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, so I think the Mustang GTD is the car that I want most wanted to own, which is always the best way for me. I just thought I really want one of these.

• 50:06Matt Farah?

  God, you'd hate one in England.

• 50:08Speaker 04

  Well.

• 50:08Matt Farah?

  Your Camaro didn't work in England.

• 50:10Speaker 04

  It rides quite well, this thing compared to the Camaro, so yes, I love that. Worst thing, I had another go in a DeLorean. And I know, obviously, you're an idiot, you had one. I don't understand.

• 50:19Matt Farah?

  But it was shit.

• 50:20Speaker 04

  I don't understand how that was ever allowed to be built.

• 50:22Matt Farah?

  It was, it was shit. Um, it's, it's a great car to go to the pub in, that's what it's for. Ladies love it.

• 50:28Speaker 04

  That's my, that's my sort of delta for that.

• 50:31Matt Farah?

  Cool, that's a good one. Uh, number two, uh, because this is gonna go up after the embargo, give me 60 seconds, uh, your thoughts on the Turbo S.

• 50:39Speaker 04

  I came here expecting to say, ah, another Turbo. Is it another example of how this industry's just lost the ability to appeal to people? That it's just different day, same shit. Here's another Turbo, do we really care? Looks like a 992. Did anyone really care about the 992 Turbo?

• 50:56Matt Farah?

  Well, cause for a minute, the whole Carrera range was just the same, a little more of the same kind of thing.

• 51:02Speaker 04

  Just the whole thing became bleh, right? And everyone really wants a GT3RS, but that's not usable on the road. So I just, you know, what's going on here? Result is, really important technology, fabulous leap in performance, just when you think they've lost the plot, they surprise you. And I like the fact that, that the Turbo has always been the platform that's the window to future technology. The 959 started that process, but the Turbo has really been the place where you see what's gonna come.

• 51:30Matt Farah?

  Variable turbine geometry and all that kind of stuff.

• 51:33Speaker 04

  All that shit. And I, and I think as a showcase for what's coming, um, and under their new CEO, I, I'm really excited for them. I just, it's a fantastic car, and it's the first Turbo I've really wanted for 10 years.

• 51:45Matt Farah?

  Okay, fair. What are you excited to drive in the next few months? Anything on the horizon that's cool? I mean, last night at dinner, we were lamenting the sameness of kind of everything and talking about these sort of specialty cars that are a little more interesting.

• 51:59Speaker 04

  I'm more excited by resurrecting old cars than I have new cars at the moment.

• 52:04Matt Farah?

  Personal stuff, like the M5?

• 52:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, I've got an M5 wagon that's got to be sort of finished, that's going to be good. The Integrale is good fun as well, and I've got this XJS project I'm doing, which I'm sure will be equally real.

• 52:13Matt Farah?

  A non-TWR XJS?

• 52:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, so it's just a little less outrageous, but with an inline-six in it rather than a 12, a supercharged one. So that's going to be quite a cool car. I think new cars, there's nothing I really... No. I'm doing the East African Historic Safari Rally with someone. I'm looking forward to that. That's supposed to be what...

• 52:32Matt Farah?

  Like a Tuttle Carrera or something?

• 52:34Speaker 04

  In a Tuttle rally car. That's supposed to be one of the great adventures of motoring, so I'm really glad I've got the chance to do that. I'm doing that with Ferdy Porsche, so we're going to be fat. I need a race suit that says "thin" on it, because I've lost a bit of weight. But yeah, we're going to be fatted up, that's going to be an adventure.

• 52:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that'll be a good time. I'm going to join Ferdy for the ice race in February, in Montana.

• 52:54Speaker 04

  In Montana?

• 52:55Matt Farah?

  Yeah, we're putting spikes on my manx. And if you can make it, you can absolutely have a go.

• 53:00Speaker 04

  I want to drive this radial engine thing.

• 53:01Matt Farah?

  It is very stupid. All right, describe your... What is your perfect fizzy sports car, ideally?

• 53:10Speaker 04

  I'm a bit torn. I think a sports car on the road is all about accuracy, it's not about sliding around. So I'm really in an Elise phase at the moment. I just think the Lotus Elise isn't given the recognition it should be. It's a fabulous platform, it's so simple, it's a load of aluminium parts that have just been bonded together, but they seem to be not far off as stiff as a carbon shell.

• 53:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 53:30Speaker 04

  And yet, the performance it gives you and the joy it gives you reminds you that you don't need loads of power. I think the Elise is about to have a big resurgence. There's a couple of companies in the UK making fabulous.

• 53:39Matt Farah?

  Oh, someone has just did... Who just did the one?

• 53:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 53:42Matt Farah?

  Someone just did a real crazy one, I forget the name of it. It's like 1200 pounds or something.

• 53:46Speaker 04

  It's amazing, there's a couple. In fact, I can't remember their names, but I'll give you the names so you can put them up on the screen now. But they're both well worth looking at. So for me, at the moment, the Elise.

• 53:55Matt Farah?

  Cool. Uh, I know this is, I've realised during this, this is not a well-written question, because everyone I've asked, given the opportunity for a month off, would not so much look at a car. But you have a month of no obligations, unlimited money, and you must go on a road trip. Where are you going? What are you driving? The car does not have to survive past this trip.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  Um, I'm probably gonna go towards Romania. There's some incredible roads in Romania.

• 54:23Matt Farah?

  Is that the Transfa Gerosin Highway? Does that live up to the reputation?

• 54:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, my son was there in the summer, and he said it was fantastic. He went and he's beaten up Golf GTI with his pals, and he just sent me his photos. And I like the idea of an Eastern European adventure. I think it's still a little bit, it's a little bit rogue over there. It's not too controlled. So I'd go there. What car would I take? I'd probably take, I've got this thing, an itch for an E34 M5, 3.6, first gen with the turbine wheel caps.

• 54:49Matt Farah?

  Sure.

• 54:50Speaker 04

  I'd go in one of those, and make it sweet and healthy, and have the exhaust a little bit louder than normal. And I want that box between the rear seats, so I want the four-seat layout, because I think it looks cool. I always wanted the four-seat.

• 54:59Matt Farah?

  Rear captain's chairs, 100%. Yeah.

• 55:01Speaker 04

  So I'd probably do that.

• 55:02Matt Farah?

  Alright, that's a good choice.

• 55:03Speaker 04

  And I'd want to bring the car back with me. Because on Top Gear, sometimes the cars didn't come back, and I hated it, and I was wanting destruction. I want to apologise for everyone for that. I wasn't involved. It was the producers, it wasn't me. But I remember leaving my Renault 4 in the Himalayas and just thinking, can't let them see me cry, can't let them see me cry. But I don't want this car to be left here, it's horrible.

• 55:21Matt Farah?

  If you really wanted it, would they have found a way to get it back for you?

• 55:25Speaker 04

  No.

• 55:25Matt Farah?

  Or you, no?

• 55:25Speaker 04

  It rolled off a hill.

• 55:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I guess, I guess not. Sorry. Alright, that's a lightning round with Chris Harrison. You have to go to the airport, so.

• 55:33Speaker 04

  Best of luck with everything, it's lovely speaking to you. Send my best to Zach, who's posting lots of photos of his wedding from a year ago.

• 55:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was great.

• 55:39Speaker 04

  Which he didn't invite me to, so.

• 55:41Matt Farah?

  Well, would you have come?

• 55:42Speaker 04

  No.

• 55:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah. That's the most, the most LA thing ever. I don't want to go, I just want to be invited.

• 55:48Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 55:48Matt Farah?

  That's LA. Thank you, everybody.

• 55:50Speaker 04

  Cheers, boss.

• 55:50Matt Farah?

  Right, oh, welcome back. And for those of you in the live show, welcome to the future!

• 55:59Matt Farah?

  Let's do some Patreon questions. Of course, if you want to ask questions of the show, if you want to watch the show live, if you want to get the show early, if you want to get the show without ads, if you want to get extra show, and as multiple people pointed out to me, I got like three or four DMs, Zach, about people who, once I said that, that you were like a thousand X more valuable as a fan by doing even the lowest, they were like, that's when I signed up, because like, they were on like YouTube Premium or whatever. YouTube Premium kinda sucks. I mean, not from the, like, it does help you as a viewer, there's less ads on YouTube, but like, the creator doesn't get much of that if you join YouTube Premium. There are better ways to support. And like, we ain't asking for money,

• 56:44Matt Farah?

  but I'm just pointing out that if you don't like ads and you like extra podcasts and live streams and getting shows early and all the little extras, you can get those things for very little money, and we appreciate it even more than if you sit through all of the ads. And you get to ask some questions, including, starting with StewDog, who just wants to, who has a point, and I'm gonna read his question. He says, "Doing another Color Canyon when I said that the Black Pearl was the last one is pretty lame." The Black Pearl even says "final edition" on the case back, to which I say, "Fair point." That is a fair point. I'm just following the lead of Horatio Pagani, you guys.

• 57:29Speaker 01

  The B.C.

• 57:30Matt Farah?

  You know, it is a fair point, and I'll say this, if you have a Black Pearl with a case back that says "final edition", if that bothers you that we are considering doing another color after that,

• 57:46Matt Farah?

  hit me up and I'll send you a new case back that does not say "final edition" on it. Complimentary, if it bothers you. For free. My treat, dude. My treat. No, I can see how it comes off as like a cynical cash grab. It's not that. I mean, yes, there's money in it, but like, it was really one of those, like, I wore this prototype and my friend was like, "Holy shit, I'd fucking buy that." And my other friend was like, "Oh shit, I'd fucking buy that." And I hit up Wes and I was like, "Wes, my friends are..." wanting to buy this and Wes is like dude we have to do another color I've been doing all of these watch shows and everyone's asking me why we're not making more colors and I was like okay well if we're gonna do another color like we have to

• 58:30Matt Farah?

  make it somehow a little different so we have found a way to make it somehow a little different which I just don't want to say yet and he was like do you think people are gonna be pissed? and I was like I don't think so maybe a couple but I doubt it but I think if enough people are asking for another color it's probably okay and so Stew Dog I appreciate your point

• 58:58Matt Farah?

  and I have thought about it but a lot of people I think there's I think the demand is still there we're working on an all-new watch this is not instead of an all-new watch and we are gonna make something about it that's a little different but and if that still bothers you or if you think that's a little lame I understand I do

• 59:21Matt Farah?

  can you punch in Zach B?

• 59:25Matt Farah?

  Rinaldi and Klein says the automotive YouTube scene is pretty saturated but is there any part of it that is a bit underserved if any?

• 59:37Matt Farah?

  I mean the problem is

• 59:41Matt Farah?

  the current YouTube landscape really rewards a certain type of content we've talked about what those types of content are and

• 59:53Matt Farah?

  not really what I want to be watching

• 59:56Speaker 01

  I think I think it's just a reflection of YouTube culture in general like for some reason yesterday my homepage was recommending me a couple of channels I've never seen and content I've never ever engaged with one was I bought all of the most popular Halloween costumes in the United States and the other one was Burger King versus Wendy's and I looked and these people have like 600,000 subscribers and it's just a guy-girl couple in their car that eat different food and I was like why am I being served this but my point is there are people that are making a living just reviewing viewing fast food, probably dozens, if not hundreds of them doing that. People just trying on, like, there's just, there's so much content of every kind, everywhere. Cause everyone goes, well, I'd rather do that than have a job, or that's their side hustle, or whatever.

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  So I think, I think the automotive landscape is just a reflection, um, or the, the lens through which we see the larger YouTube world.

• 1:00:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, look, also, I, I'm the wrong person to ask, cause I don't watch a lot of YouTube. Like, I, I don't have time. I, I, if I really care what someone else thinks about a car, I'm spoiled in that I could call or text them 95% of the time. I, we know these people, they're our friends. We also go on these events together and talk about the car and sort of end up in similar places because of it sometimes.

• 1:01:17Matt Farah?

  I mean, so I don't, I don't know, uh, what the greater YouTube audience wants and isn't getting, I think.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  I think they want a game show, which they're getting.

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  A little self-serving.

• 1:01:30Matt Farah?

  There you go. Shot the second episode.

• 1:01:33Speaker 01

  We did.

• 1:01:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah?

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's good.

• 1:01:34Matt Farah?

  And you think, was it, did, did you, did you, did you change anything from the first episode, or, I mean?

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, uh, like small tweaks, which, which was good. It was like, thank God the foundation seemed really solid. But changed some things with question pacing and organization to try to make the show flow a certain way.

• 1:01:55Speaker 01

  Trying to start with a certain type of question so that we can see what each team is going to be, like who their characters are, and that worked pretty well.

• 1:02:02Matt Farah?

  Cool.

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  Um, the whole thing went, went really smooth.

• 1:02:04Matt Farah?

  Good. Uh, black sob if, that's pretty good. Uh, I want to get a electric car as my next car, but I'm in an older house and can't realistically install a level two charger, only a level one. That's odd.

• 1:02:22Matt Farah?

  Is it feasible to charge up at a public fast charger and then use a level one at my, level one charger at my house to keep it topped up? Anything extra I might need to consider to do that? I drive eight miles round trip in a day. I think you, I think you could do that for at least a while.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:38Matt Farah?

  I think you get away with that for a while. It's like, a level one charger will put on about forty miles of electricity overnight.

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:02:50Matt Farah?

  So if you're driving under forty miles a day, you will, you can get away with a level one at home for sure. Especially if there's a reasonable, convenient, fast charger somewhere in your area where you could top off for a quick ten minutes once in a while.

• 1:03:05Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. And we, we have the Volt. It was forty mi- forty miles a night, one ten.

• 1:03:09Matt Farah?

  Very rarely used, and that was ten years ago.

• 1:03:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:12Matt Farah?

  I think, I think you'd probably get twenty percent more than that with a modern, a better battery.

• 1:03:23Matt Farah?

  Okay, that, that, uh, that's, that's the wrong one for this one. Uh. Well, okay, uh, Coop it is. Uh. When discussing the new Toyota Lexus brand the other day, you mentioned should have an onboard generator, which makes sense. When we had our Sprinter van built out, we had a secondary alternator installed to charge the van's lithium battery bank. It charges at about two hundred amps when driving. Why hasn't this been done in a hybrid? I, I couldn't possibly tell you why this hasn't been done in a hybrid, but there are like, like, heavy-duty Sprinter and like, heavy-duty Ford and GM vehicles that have like,

• 1:04:06Matt Farah?

  high-output alternators and stuff. But I don't, and I, I don't know why, um. Like, why would a hybrid need it? What, what is?

• 1:04:21Matt Farah?

  Like, I'm not, I'm not, like, like, why, is he asking why, uh, uh, why there isn't a self-generating hybrid? What, I don't really understand the question.

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  I don't know either. Uh, I think, I think he's asking why there aren't twin alternators in more cars, maybe? But I would just say that-

• 1:04:40Matt Farah?

  A lot of drag, I mean-

• 1:04:40Speaker 01

  A lot of drag.

• 1:04:41Matt Farah?

  And it would generate more power than you need.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  Takes up more space. I mean, the OEMs are always gonna use, you know, as much as they need, but not more. So if they can design the system, the hybrid system, to operate fine with one alternator and charge at the rate that they like, then that's what they're gonna go with. Um, otherwise, you know, two alternators, now you need extra belts, you need more service life, all these other things. So if they don't have to do that, they won't do it. And they also capture regen, you know, in most of these cars through the braking.

• 1:05:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Speaker 01

  Right? So that's, that's how they charge versus your Sprinter doesn't have regen.

• 1:05:11Matt Farah?

  Right. Uh, Clapped and Busted says, "What's the worst cleanliness?" Uh, we've, I've talked about this a bunch. Back in the day, it was a brand-new Audi and someone left a seafood chowder in the trunk, which spilled, and the car had to be totaled. It was fucked up.

• 1:05:30Matt Farah?

  Who? Uh... I have no idea what Randy's question is.

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  I don't know who that is.

• 1:05:36Matt Farah?

  Ask, it's a request for a guest, but I have no idea who the guest is. Um...

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  Oh, they make a tiny, it's America's smallest electric truck.

• 1:05:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Uh, Dre from Houston says, "I've got a tuned 600 horsepower 992 Carrera S, which is 75% of the way to flat sixes 992 Carrera T we tested. Question, do you get that type of build or a 992 Turbo?"

• 1:06:04Speaker 01

  Uh...

• 1:06:05Matt Farah?

  Depends if you wanna drive stick.

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  Do you need all-wheel drive?

• 1:06:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah, and, and if you want all-wheel drive. I mean, what do you want, what do you want the end result to be? Um, if you're just talking about like-

• 1:06:18Matt Farah?

  If you don't care about driving stick, meaning if you're open to PDK and if you want all-wheel drive, you should just get a 992 Turbo. I mean, just get the best one that Porsche offers. I mean, what made the car that we drove cool was that it was that type of acceleration and thrust, but in the lighter rear-wheel-drive manual transmission package. And the engine and stuff is apparently robust enough to take it, which is pretty cool. But that's gonna be a far different thing than an actual Turbo S.

• 1:06:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:53Matt Farah?

  Okay. Fully Loaded Diapers says, "I wear size 13 boots daily, and I'd rather not switch to driving shoes when driving manuals. My 1997 Mitsubishi Evolution 4 had a narrow pedal box, while a 2024 BMW M2 I drove felt much more comfortable. Is a pedal box with primarily classic versus modern difference in this, or does it depend on more factors?" Uh, wait. Is that Evo a right-hand-drive car?

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  Uh, probably Evo 6, or sorry Evo 4.

• 1:07:36Matt Farah?

  Evo 4. If Evo 4 is our only right-hand drive, that will make a big difference. If you have big feet, a right-hand-drive pedal box could be problematic for you. So if you're talking about a car from the 90s in a right-hand-drive pedal box versus a car from the 2010s in a left-hand-drive pedal box, that will be a huge difference, mainly just because of the way the dead pedals laid out, like because of what you have.

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  Well, here's a left-hand drive version.

• 1:08:03Matt Farah?

  Is that left-hand drive?

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I guess there's both.

• 1:08:06Matt Farah?

  Uh, that pedal box does look a little narrow even in left-hand drive. Okay, so I guess, this says left-hand-drive conversion.

• 1:08:15Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:08:16Matt Farah?

  So I don't think they're factory left-hand drive, although, nice-looking conversion there. Could've fooled me. I guess lesser ones maybe were made in left-hand drive.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  Here's other...

• 1:08:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Dude, right-hand-drive cars are gonna feel tighter no matter what.

• 1:08:31Matt Farah?

  Also Evo fours are pretty small.

• 1:08:33Speaker 01

  They're small cars, but you also have transverse engine and then you also have, I don't know the architecture outright, but like you have a like a transaxle situation that's sending the power. Like there's just more shit under there versus the M2. It's very simple. It's a longitudinal engine. That means it's narrower. And then you have the trans going to the drive shaft to the back. It is also a newer car. I mean newer cars are just bigger than older cars. I mean, this is a new M2. That's

• 1:08:59Matt Farah?

  It's a lot.

• 1:08:59Speaker 01

  Thirty, almost 30 years newer. Cars can be a lot bigger.

• 1:09:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I mean, there's there. I have, excuse me. I have to put on different shoes to drive certain cars. I have to take off my shoes to drive certain cars and that's, and I have a size 12, not even a 13. So, you know, I can, I'm like the shoes I'm wearing right now are these big like elephant feet New Balances. Like I can pretty much only drive like luxury sedans, wearing those. To drive any sports car, I have to wear these different New Balances that are narrower. And to drive like the Countach or anything is pretty much barefoot.

• 1:09:40Speaker 01

  The, a new M2 is eight inches wider than an Evo four. That is a ton. I mean, that's all the shoe you have, you know, that's plenty. Yeah.

• 1:09:49Matt Farah?

  That's a ton. Yeah. Yeah. Good question, though. Dakar, all the Porsches says, driving Meredith 918 on the road and track event is going to be epic. 918s are currently listed for sale around 3.3 million. That's, first off, that's fucking crazy.

• 1:10:06Speaker 01

  That is.

• 1:10:07Matt Farah?

  That's, listen, these are cool cars, but hell no on a 98. I can tell you this before I drive it. For 3.3 million? No. No. Absolutely not.

• 1:10:18Speaker 01

  The competition at that price.

• 1:10:20Matt Farah?

  Fucking fierce, dude. You're, that's a Singer and a Zinger.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's true.

• 1:10:25Matt Farah?

  It's a Zinger.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:28Matt Farah?

  That's, yeah, 3.3 million, you're dailying a Singer Turbo and you're weekending a Zinger.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, multiple Carrera GTs. Yeah. Or a GMA T33.

• 1:10:40Matt Farah?

  The question is, is there a point at which you would say no to an opportunity like this because the car is too expensive? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I do not have to financially underwrite this car, which is, you know, a privilege. But if I did. I can't do the job. Like, this just doesn't happen. That's when the cars are owned by manufacturers, they're insured by the manufacturers. Um, there, this isn't NOM, there are rules. Uh, I'm not allowed to take it on the track, which is totally understandable. Um, little bit of a bummer, but totally understandable. Um, but outside of that, no, I mean, um, the car's insured and I know I'm not going to do anything stupid with it.

• 1:11:21Matt Farah?

  So I think it'll be good times. I hope it'll be good times. Uh, LeBron James. Okay, interesting. Um, thoughts on the L300 Delica compared to the L400 Delica? Uh, the turbo diesel is only rated 86 horsepower from the factory, which seems too slow to get out of its own way. Well, I have an L300 Delica. I've had it for shit, six years, since 2019. Um, and like, yeah, it's pretty slow. I mean, it's not undrivable slowly, um, but it's slow. Uh, it tops out at around 70, um, but it does, it does matter. If you're, if you're like by yourself in it, you know, or like two people in it,

• 1:12:07Matt Farah?

  then it's not so bad. If you have like six people in it, then it's like pretty, pretty bad. Um, but it's like, it's very fuel efficient and in an urban setting, it's like totally fine. Um, it's 86 horsepower, but it's 135 pound-feet of torque, which in a diesel, that's real, that's really the number. Um, and it doesn't weigh much. Um, having said that, the L400, the, the rounder one drives way better. It just, that just drives like a normal car, like, but it also like looks like a normal car. Like, nobody wants a Delica because it looks like a, nobody wants just like an, uh, they, they're cool because of how they look. The 300 is the space van, all that, the cat, like,

• 1:12:51Matt Farah?

  it's a, it's a, it's a vibe, it's a style, like, I mean, if you want the better driving one, like, yeah, get an L400, but like, they don't look that cool. They just look like Mazda MPVs or Dodge caravans from the same era, just like round 90s van. Have you looked up at L, seen L400? Look up an L400 Delica. They're not ugly. They're just not like, I don't know, cool?

• 1:13:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah. The 400 is a front engine design. It's not a cab over design. So it's like, I mean, it's not an ugly van, but it just looks like a normal 90s van instead of a cab over.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  That's true. I think it's kind of cool looking. Uh, but yeah, it's definitely more traditional.

• 1:13:31Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm. It's not ugly, but it's not like, I bought the, we bought the Delica for like, the vibe. Not like Hannah saw the L400 and I was like, you know, this one drives more normal. And she's like, that's boring.

• 1:13:44Speaker 01

  The 400 looks like a short nose Windstar.

• 1:13:47Matt Farah?

  It does. Yeah. Yeah. They, those L400s do drive nice though. They have a lot more power, a lot more torque and a very smooth transmission.

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  This looks like a good time. Slow time.

• 1:13:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're alright. No, the, the 400s are alright. They just, they just don't look that cool. Go ahead and go to the interior. Like, the interior is very normal.

• 1:14:08Matt Farah?

  If they have a shot of the interior. Oh, boy. Allow the cookies. Always allowing the cookies.

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  Wow, wood ceiling.

• 1:14:17Matt Farah?

  Oh, wow. Yeah, teed it out. Alright, well, that's how you make one of those cool. This is a full like camper build?

• 1:14:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, this is a very serious overland.

• 1:14:25Matt Farah?

  Whoever built this fucking thing, that is cool. But, uh, yeah, I don't think that was interesting. Mustang GTDs nuts. Uh, best and worst car themed gifts you've ever received?

• 1:14:38Speaker 01

  The best is I got a torque wrench from a, a girl I dated in college and I still use it. And it's not an expensive one, but I think it's still pretty accurate. And yeah, that was the, the best thing that came out of that relationship.

• 1:14:51Matt Farah?

  Shit, yeah.

• 1:14:54Matt Farah?

  Um. I've gotten some like really cool vintage movie posters. I've, oh, I mean, look. Donnie gave me that Ferrari book, which was unbelievable. And I, I, it came in an engine like crate and it's, I, I turned the entire thing into a coffee table. The entire display. It looked like an engine inside of a crate. The, the Taschen Ferrari book. That's unbel, that was gorgeous.

• 1:15:24Matt Farah?

  That might be the coolest Ferrari, the coolest car gift I've ever gotten. I don't know about worst. I mean, people give me so many Hot Wheels of my own cars. Which like, fine, I'll re-gift them to kids, but like, like, the number of times I've gotten like a Hot Wheels of a car I already own.

• 1:15:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:42Matt Farah?

  Like, I got the, I got the real one.

• 1:15:43Speaker 01

  Got some, uh, my friend gave me a shifter for my car, which is very nice. Cause my, all of mine was like bubbling and gross.

• 1:15:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:49Speaker 01

  And that was a very good gift. Yeah.

• 1:15:51Matt Farah?

  I've never, I mean, I've never gotten a truly bad car gift, but, um,

• 1:15:57Matt Farah?

  the Stig's Laotian cousin? Oh no, my girlfriend has two large dogs whose drool has damaged the paint on her Bronco. I've tried cutting polish, it doesn't seem to be doing the job. Any idea on how to fix this? I'm treating it like hard water stains. You may need a professional correction.

• 1:16:14Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 1:16:15Matt Farah?

  I mean, like, you might need a wet sand. Like, if it was, if, if someone brought it to me, it, like, I would call, I would have Derek Beamist in here to color sand it. And it, that would probably do it. That's what we would do, that's what we do with hard water.

• 1:16:31Matt Farah?

  So, I don't recommend trying to wet sand your own car if you don't already have the skill. Larry probably has a really good video on it.

• 1:16:42Matt Farah?

  And you probably won't damage it more than the dog drool, honestly, but-

• 1:16:46Speaker 01

  I guess dog drool is slightly alkaline.

• 1:16:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah, but it, it, it, um, it may be time to call in a professional.

• 1:16:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:55Matt Farah?

  You, you absolutely will need a heavy duty polisher if not color sanding. And I, for that kinda shit, I would say call a professional. Uh, Charlie quirks and features? Oh.

• 1:17:07Speaker 01

  They've been here for a while.

• 1:17:08Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 1:17:09Speaker 01

  Well, for about three weeks.

• 1:17:11Matt Farah?

  All right, uh, I have an Audi A6 that I got almost basically brand new for half price. I'd like to do a few- But have an aftermarket warranty. Uh, what are some safe mods and no no mods you can think of?

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  Well, safe is always suspension and stuff.

• 1:17:27Matt Farah?

  Suspension, wheels, tires.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  That never avoids things.

• 1:17:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  Uh, you just don't want to modify. You don't want to add power because then they'll say they avoids the powertrain warranty.

• 1:17:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah, uh, light cut. You could do, you know, like the clear corner markers, little cosmetic stuff like that. I mean, look, dude, you're rolling an A6 like it's a nice car, but like, let's not pretend it's something it isn't. You know, all's there. You're going to get limited, limited improvements.

• 1:17:51Speaker 01

  What engine is it? 3T or is it like 2.0?

• 1:17:54Matt Farah?

  Most of them are the 3.0.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:17:56Matt Farah?

  If you're in America, if you're in other countries, you get the 2.0 and a diesel. Um, I don't know if there's a bigger engine. I think they're all 3.0 Ts, but.

• 1:18:06Speaker 01

  I mean, I think it goes back to the, the question is always, what do you want to do with the car?

• 1:18:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:09Speaker 01

  So if you just want it to be different, you can do that with wheels and, uh, tint.

• 1:18:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  And like that.

• 1:18:16Matt Farah?

  Like low, mild lowering.

• 1:18:18Speaker 01

  Mild lowering, but not, you know, don't make it uncomfortable. And then you've got a great looking like luxury sedan.

• 1:18:23Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:23Speaker 01

  If you want to try to make a race car, do it with something else.

• 1:18:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Vision 2002 is considering.

• 1:18:30Speaker 01

  This is a lot.

• 1:18:31Matt Farah?

  Oh, wow. Okay. A motor swap for his BMW 2002. Okay. Um, I've done some bolt-ons. Maybe I'm at 100 and fucking 25 horsepower. Still hungry for more. Uh, the most common swaps are the 325i six cylinder, the 318 four cylinder. The F20 series from the Honda S2000 or an S14 from the E30 M3. Leaning towards the M20, which is the inline six. Am I wrong? So our friend Ali has a 2002 with a hot rod S14 in it that is like a riot. Having said that, a stock S14 is probably not worth the money it would cost you.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 1:19:17Matt Farah?

  Um, the 318i is not enough gain that it's worth enough, worth putting in.

• 1:19:23Matt Farah?

  The M20 is a pretty good idea. But I would consider if you're getting an engine already to do a 2.7 stroker crank on it, because why the fuck not? The engine's already out of the car. Uh, all it's just gonna be a few different parts.

• 1:19:38Speaker 01

  There's, I mean, there's a lot of bolt-ons for the M20. It's such a known thing. Uh, it's a really strong engine. And a very reliable engine, and that's, I mean, that's a good choice. I don't know how it will affect. The weight. I don't know what the weight of the stock engine is, the M10 versus the M20. I don't know if it'll change the weight balance at all. Uh.

• 1:19:57Matt Farah?

  I don't, I wouldn't do the F20 from the S2000, but maybe a K24. I mean, if you could K swap it, that thing would fucking rip.

• 1:20:06Speaker 01

  Well, and that, that and the F20, I think would both sound like hot S14s.

• 1:20:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:12Speaker 01

  But in theory. Be cheaper and maybe more reliable.

• 1:20:16Matt Farah?

  I'd rather have the displacement for this car versus the 9000 revs, you know, like. Fucking, the S2000's made no torque.

• 1:20:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:27Matt Farah?

  Like, I, the, I'd rather have, if, I'd rather have a fucking K swap in an S2000, to be honest with you. Because you could, you could get a sick fucking race K swap, K24, and make like 280, it would fucking rip.

• 1:20:41Matt Farah?

  If the, I don't know about the weight, I agree with you, but if the weight isn't too fucked up. I'm M20 followed by K series.

• 1:20:48Speaker 01

  I think that's a good, good choice. I think the F20 would be rad, though. It'd be fun.

• 1:20:52Matt Farah?

  Uh, lump lingered last in line for brains. That is, uh.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  That's a Pot USA reference, right?

• 1:20:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, best line written by a band I can't fucking stand. They wrote a bunch of terrible songs and one really good line, and that's it.

• 1:21:07Matt Farah?

  I'm lucky enough, oh wow, I'm lucky enough to have some spare time, so, putting us on the spot here, so I volunteer at my local food bank every week. Do you do any work in your community?

• 1:21:19Matt Farah?

  Uh, it depends what you call work. I, I, I give a lot of time and money to, uh, the animal shelter. Shout out to Peter Zippy Fund. Their open house is November 8th, if anybody wants to come meet some kittens with me, down in Hermosa Beach.

• 1:21:34Matt Farah?

  That's most of what, uh, what we do. During the fires, we did a little bit, and, uh. Hannah helps some of the elder ladies in the, in, uh, in our neighborhood and is on the board of our library.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  I don't do enough, I'll say that, like, I think about it often, but whatever. Good intentions are only worth so much, so.

• 1:21:54Matt Farah?

  I give more money than time. I give a decent amount of money, but like, I don't have the fucking time. And, you know, Hannah, when she was not working, Hannah tried pretty hard to find organizations to volunteer at in LA. They were like, not taking volunteers. And I'm not saying that people shouldn't volunteer for stuff. And during, certainly during the fires or any other kind of, you know, short-term natural disaster, anything like, yeah, volunteer for sure, but like, food bank type stuff, a lot of like, you know, reaching out with seniors and troubled adolescents. I guess in LA, they do get a lot of volunteers and really didn't like,

• 1:22:39Matt Farah?

  need Hannah, which sort of made her like, a little sad. You know, because she needed something to do at the time. But, yeah, if you can, you should. Degener8.

• 1:22:52Matt Farah?

  One take OG here, remember the white Jeep with the machete? Oh, yeah, right. Okay. Anyway, if there had been a Top Gear America or similar format show you had been a part of, who would you have wanted to be your co-host to put on the most entertaining show? Dude, I mean, I thought we were kind of there, like, no offense to Spinelli, but I would have, it was me, you and Harris. Like, that would be my show, pretty much. I don't, I don't.

• 1:23:24Speaker 01

  That'd be amazing.

• 1:23:24Matt Farah?

  I don't need a lot more than that. I think it would have been a good fucking time.

• 1:23:27Speaker 01

  I think Alex Roy was also very good on that show. Because he was the, uh, he was the James May kind of, you know, character.

• 1:23:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:36Speaker 01

  So.

• 1:23:36Matt Farah?

  Oh, yeah, that would have been fun, too.

• 1:23:38Speaker 01

  He was really good on that show.

• 1:23:39Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  I was very impressed.

• 1:23:40Matt Farah?

  Me, you, Alex and Chris would be pretty fun.

• 1:23:42Speaker 01

  Sign it up.

• 1:23:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:44Speaker 01

  NBC Sports is coming back.

• 1:23:46Matt Farah?

  I would do, I would do one with. Fenski and Chris also, I would do that.

• 1:23:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, Fenski's great.

• 1:23:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah. He would be, he would be a high-quality nerd.

• 1:23:58Speaker 01

  I think, because I think, you know, Top Gear has shown you need, you can't have three people that are exactly the same. You need some overlap, but also some separation.

• 1:24:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:07Speaker 01

  Or, you know, circles can't be, three circles can't be one circle.

• 1:24:12Matt Farah?

  I also, I don't, I want, I don't know. What else would I put on that?

• 1:24:21Matt Farah?

  I don't know. I think that would be fun, though. I don't know if that format still, like, works, though.

• 1:24:26Speaker 01

  T-Pain.

• 1:24:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah?

• 1:24:28Speaker 01

  T-Pain.

• 1:24:29Matt Farah?

  He is fucking pretty cool.

• 1:24:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's very, he's really funny.

• 1:24:32Matt Farah?

  He can drive.

• 1:24:33Speaker 01

  He can drive.

• 1:24:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:34Speaker 01

  But he had, he wasn't embedded in the world for, you know, such a long time, so I think a wild card.

• 1:24:39Matt Farah?

  That's a good call.

• 1:24:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:40Matt Farah?

  That'd be fun.

• 1:24:40Speaker 01

  Someone who was not an auto journalist for a long time would be fun.

• 1:24:43Matt Farah?

  Yeah. That would be fun. Very nice. Can you scroll down, please? Zach's verbal-tuned Metro says, "I just got a 1990 Corvette ZR1, 22,000 miles, California car, new, from, for under $25,000." Wow. "Do you think if Chevy had made the exterior more special, they would be more collectible now?"

• 1:25:07Matt Farah?

  I just think C4s are not collectible. I mean, as, as the collectibles they should be, I mean. Excuse me. I think with the ZR1, like, it's, that's, they're such sleepers. I mean, it's actually, it's, for those who know, the ZR1 is the coolest wide-body kit of all time. Because they, it's not a wide-body kit. They fucking cut the car length, the long way down the middle and stretched it from the middle? That's the bossest shit ever. Like, it's a non-wide-body. Wide body. Um, and the only way you can tell is you have to punch in on the license plate.

• 1:25:50Matt Farah?

  And look at the black spacers in between the license plate and the park and the reverse line. That is the wide body. It's the slick, it's the fucking dopest slippery shit ever. Have you ever driven a C4ZR1?

• 1:26:05Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:26:05Matt Farah?

  They drive so good, especially the, the quote dot two, the like 94, 95s. They rip and the fucking steering is unbelievable.

• 1:26:15Speaker 01

  I think, but, uh, to Burbel Toon's question, like if they had made it, you know, a little bit more extreme on the exterior. If you look at these other ones below it.

• 1:26:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like the C7ZR1.

• 1:26:26Speaker 01

  The C7 is very extreme, but the C6 not that much, like they didn't change that much.

• 1:26:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:30Speaker 01

  I think, you know, a lot of the generations, it was always subtle because they're starting with the base car. That's what they, what they can work with. And I think the, the C7, you know, tall wings had become kind of in vogue, profitable, whatever. They were all over the place, they were trickling down from Konig's egg so they could make it look more extreme, but like, look at the, I mean, this thing.

• 1:26:50Matt Farah?

  Well, once GT3RS is.

• 1:26:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:52Matt Farah?

  Once you, once you had the, the, the full on acceptance and in fact, like the, you know, the market rush onto the GT3RS. Everyone was like, oh, wait, we can put just race car shit on these things now?

• 1:27:03Speaker 01

  That's a good point.

• 1:27:06Matt Farah?

  Having said that, dude, what, I mean, that car, it probably feels really nice. Um, I mean, they're rattly, but whatever, but like, what a fucking deal. Like that would be the perfect car to do one of those like DWA rallies or any of that kind of stuff.

• 1:27:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:27:23Matt Farah?

  Like great Targa top comes off, fabulous driving experience.

• 1:27:30Matt Farah?

  Oh, I have nice cams. Do you, do you know the answer to this question?

• 1:27:34Speaker 01

  I have no idea.

• 1:27:34Matt Farah?

  You're asking, that's like a, that's like a, that's an advanced engineering question. Yeah, that's a, that's a forum question. I have no clue. Domesticated Jaguar XJS, which of your cars does the best burnout? Probably your M3.

• 1:27:50Speaker 01

  Out of all of our cars?

• 1:27:51Matt Farah?

  Uh, I mean, I guess my Porsche would. I have never done a burnout in my Porsche.

• 1:27:56Speaker 01

  And you don't have?

• 1:27:59Speaker 01

  You don't, do you own a front engine car right now? My brain is-

• 1:28:02Matt Farah?

  The Vanquish, I guess, if I wanted to do-

• 1:28:04Speaker 01

  Oh wow, so yeah, so your cars will probably hook up too much, so-

• 1:28:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, the NSX would not do good burnouts.

• 1:28:09Speaker 01

  My car, once I put the all seasons on, it would. Right now, they're way too sticky. I would surely snap something.

• 1:28:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Um, I haven't, you know, that Turbo S was like the first burnout I'd done in a really, really like a minute.

• 1:28:21Speaker 01

  We don't do them often enough. They're so fun.

• 1:28:24Matt Farah?

  What's crazy is like, someone asked me to do one in the GTD at Performance Car of the Year for the video, and like, we forgot.

• 1:28:32Matt Farah?

  Like, we were just busy and completely forgot. Um...

• 1:28:45Matt Farah?

  Do I want to answer that question?

• 1:28:47Speaker 01

  You don't have to.

• 1:28:50Speaker 01

  I feel like, I feel like Larry talked about it on our show, of like, he's just trying to talk about the cars of the places he goes.

• 1:28:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I think, Chunhun wants to know about Larry Chen, you know, trying to get access to the, the Brunei car collection. And, and, uh, and the, and the argument is that, you know, Prince Jeffrey's not a good guy. And, and I understand that. Um, and I don't think I would personally go to Brunei and try to do that.

• 1:29:23Matt Farah?

  But, um...

• 1:29:27Matt Farah?

  The, the, that, the Brunei car collection thing, if you are a man of a certain age, coming up in sort of the early internet,

• 1:29:38Matt Farah?

  those cars was like, it was like City of Gold shit.

• 1:29:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:41Matt Farah?

  You know what I mean? And, and, and I real-

• 1:29:45Speaker 01

  It was the Rainbow Shake collection, but just a few years earlier.

• 1:29:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:49Speaker 01

  Because now, that's the story.

• 1:29:51Matt Farah?

  The cars were like mythical, like, they're built, they were built for this guy, but they never, they were like not cars that were even sold to the public. It's all coach-built stuff, and, and it squirreled away somewhere, like, and he had to give it up, but like, where is it? Like, um... And, and, yeah, I mean, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm not gonna pretend to know the ins and outs of the, of the political situation over there. I know he's like, they're like authoritarian and not great, but, but I'm not going, and I understand where the comment comes from, I totally do. Same with the people who went to Saudi and did the comedy thing.

• 1:30:30Matt Farah?

  Like, you know, I, I kinda like, it's one of those things where like, I'm not gonna knock your hustle, and if you tell me that you can overlook that shit and it's about like, you know, it's about the cars, you know, okay, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't have done that, um, but it wasn't bad enough where I'd be like, you know, Larry, I really don't think you should have done that, you know? He's an adult, he can make his choices, and I'm sure his fans will have been critical, some of them, of that. And, you know, he's a grown up, knows what he's getting into. I understand the allure, though. And he was just like, can I see the cars?

• 1:31:16Matt Farah?

  You know, it wasn't, it wasn't Kim Jong Un, and, and, well, in America, I don't think the badness of Brunei is really a thing that's really like, you know, taught.

• 1:31:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I know very little about it.

• 1:31:31Matt Farah?

  Like, I think you could be somewhat ignorant of Brunei and wanna go see the cars in Brunei.

• 1:31:40Speaker 01

  Well, I think he went, I can't remember if it was about this trip or a different one, but sometime in the last six months, he did a post, Larry did a post on Instagram about like, getting pushed back from people about where he's going. And he's like, I'm just trying to focus on the cars I'm seeing and the car culture. I'm not trying to do a documentary on the politics of the country.

• 1:31:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:59Speaker 01

  So...

• 1:31:59Matt Farah?

  Which is a statement, you know? And you can then disagree with that, you know? I say all the time that cars are politics.

• 1:32:06Speaker 01

  People used to...

• 1:32:07Matt Farah?

  But he's doing his thing, and so I'm not gonna like knock his hustle. And with the Saudi one is interesting, cause like, yes, MBS was paying a ton of money for it, and I would absolutely not go. I got invited to go to the Saudi SEMA, and I turned down a huge amount of money to go to that, for me, compared to the numbers I was hearing about for this, it was peanuts, but... But like, we now live in authoritarian country and, and I would not want artists that I love to, to not come perform for me because of Trump. Um, I would understand if they didn't want to, like fucking Bad Bunny. Fuck yeah, dude. Exclude America and make a billion dollars.

• 1:32:49Matt Farah?

  Fucking rock on. Uh, but I'm not a fan of Bad Bunny. So, uh, his music anyway, like I just, I don't, you know, I'm not a fan. So I don't really give a shit if he doesn't come to America, but, um, but if it was a Oasis, for instance, like, didn't want to come to America, uh, because of Trump, like, you know, I would understand, but I'd be bummed. So like, I think, you know, the, the, if you said, oh, I want to go, the, the people of Saudi, it's not their fault.

• 1:33:15Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:33:16Matt Farah?

  You know, that they're in this, under the system and I'm performing for them. I, I could kind of see that, you know, even though the money is coming from MBS and that would feel, that would feel gross. Maybe I'd donate the money.

• 1:33:27Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:33:28Matt Farah?

  You know, once I got home, I would donate the money to something else. Like that's the boss move, right? Go perform for the people, take the money and then fucking give it to a righteous cause. Like that would be a good move.

• 1:33:39Speaker 01

  Trevor Noah had a really good, uh, he was doing comedy. It's, it's on YouTube. You can see it, but he was doing like Comedy Cellar, I think. And he was doing Q and A after his set and someone, it was right when the Saudi Comedy Festival happened and they said, what's your opinion of this? And he's like, well, I have a pretty unique position because I literally have traveled the world doing stand-up, which not a lot of, not a ton of people have. He's like, Americans are very lucky in being able to say whatever you want. He's like, most countries I perform in, there are rules. He's like, when I go to India, people will ask me before I go up, they're like, hey, are you going to talk about the, the PM? And he's like, uh, maybe. And they go, oh, we'll see what happens. Like,

• 1:34:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:18Speaker 01

  that was specifically, specifically what he mentioned. So it's all, it's all, his take was like, it's hard to knock someone's hustle. You don't know what their financial situation is. Also, the glass half full is by doing comedy there are, is it a sign that that country is, you know, warming and changing its ways and heading in a more progressive direction because they wouldn't have had this at all, maybe five, 10 years ago.

• 1:34:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:40Speaker 01

  Um, and while they do have, They had very strict rules. They gave the comedians about what they could not joke about. He kind of throws some shade at the US. He's like, we're in a situation now where you journalists are getting banned access for saying the wrong things. More people are Jimmy Kimmel, got cancelled for a certain amount of time for literally making the gentlest of jokes, in my opinion. So it's just kind of like, what's your perspective that usually informs your opinion?

• 1:35:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah. The boss move would be to perform and then give the money to the cause.

• 1:35:15Speaker 01

  For sure, yeah.

• 1:35:15Matt Farah?

  That would be the boss move.

• 1:35:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:18Matt Farah?

  Gin in Taconic State Parkway, my favorite combination, one and then the other, you pick which. Was the Integra Type R a flop? Was it the MSR premium that caused its downfall or something else? It was not a flop, but the late 90s was when all of those Japanese cars got really expensive. The Supra, the 300ZX, the RX7, and the Integra Type R, and the 3000 GT. I'm sure there must be something else, but all of those cars really started to creep up like past like 50,000, like high 40.

• 1:35:59Matt Farah?

  And then like a C4 Corvette, or no, a C5 Corvette, in 97, came in at 48,000 with like unbelievable performance and an all-new engine. Fucking, and there was, and a couple, the new Mustangs, the new Camaro, like, they really got priced out of the American market. It wasn't just the Type R, though. It was like the whole reign of super-premium Japanese sports cars.

• 1:36:25Speaker 01

  Let's see, a 99 Type R, the MSRP was $23,000? Is that right?

• 1:36:35Speaker 01

  Or maybe thirty.

• 1:36:36Matt Farah?

  What ti- what year, ninety seven?

• 1:36:37Speaker 01

  Ninety nine.

• 1:36:38Matt Farah?

  That seems low, doesn't it? I don't, I don't know if they sent very many Type Rs to the American market. Like, I literally, I think, I think the, the Type R in America was a pretty limited import. Like, I think they sold every single one that they could get into America, but there just weren't all that many of them.

• 1:36:59Speaker 01

  Probably, and then they, they went away for two thousand, two thousand and one, they came back, the MSRP was twenty five grand. Um, and then, you know, once the collectors caught on to them, they got real expensive in the last eight years.

• 1:37:10Matt Farah?

  Don't forget, they got, they got real cheap, too, for a minute. I mean, there was, there was a time when you could get them for like ten thousand dollars.

• 1:37:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, very true.

• 1:37:18Matt Farah?

  And they were getting fucking stolen all over the place.

• 1:37:23Matt Farah?

  Uh, okay, two car solution, help please. I want to get rid of my SUV and get a smaller car that's fun and still reliable. My second car is a lightly modified one twenty eight I with higher miles.

• 1:37:38Matt Farah?

  Uh, fun and still reliable? I mean.

• 1:37:42Speaker 01

  Miata.

• 1:37:43Matt Farah?

  Well, well, a smaller car, it shouldn't be smaller than the second car. It should probably be a little more practical than that.

• 1:37:49Speaker 01

  Oh, instead of the SUV.

• 1:37:51Matt Farah?

  Instead of SUV, I'm guessing it should be a sedan or hatchback of some kind. Well, without knowing a budget here, um, and, I mean, uh, I mean, your obvious answer is, is a GTI. Uh, or some kind of hatchback type thing.

• 1:38:07Speaker 01

  Uh, I mean, it's, we have no budget, so we have a high mile one twenty eight.

• 1:38:11Matt Farah?

  Oh, wait, is that, oh, budget overall is forty K? Oh, that, the.

• 1:38:14Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 1:38:15Matt Farah?

  Sorry.

• 1:38:15Speaker 01

  I did that. I thought it was a name.

• 1:38:17Matt Farah?

  Issues that made it look like that was the next person's username.

• 1:38:19Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:38:20Matt Farah?

  Okay, sorry, we have options here. Sorry, thank you. Uh, option A, get a Civic SI and use the extra money for a refresh on the one twenty eight I. So I'm more confident using it more often. That sounds like a good, smart plan.

• 1:38:32Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:38:33Matt Farah?

  Option B, spend a little more on a GR Corolla or use M two forty I and still use the one twenty eight I on special trips.

• 1:38:42Speaker 01

  Well, the M two forty, I, I think, I think if you had an M two forty I, you would never drive the one twenty eight anymore.

• 1:38:47Matt Farah?

  I agree. I agree.

• 1:38:49Speaker 01

  That's, they overlap.

• 1:38:50Matt Farah?

  That.

• 1:38:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:51Matt Farah?

  Um, yeah, no, I think, what if you got a GR Corolla and then did a partial refresh? On the 128i. Cause I'd rather drive, nah commuting Civic SI is a nice commuter car.

• 1:39:03Speaker 01

  Yes, it is.

• 1:39:04Matt Farah?

  Might be a better commuter car than the Corolla, actually.

• 1:39:06Speaker 01

  I think it definitely is.

• 1:39:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:08Speaker 01

  I think it's longer wheelbase. It's quieter for sure.

• 1:39:11Matt Farah?

  Good seats.

• 1:39:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:12Matt Farah?

  Good shifter.

• 1:39:13Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:39:13Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:14Speaker 01

  That's a really good car. You might honestly, if you got a new, if you got a Civic SI, you would probably find yourself driving the 128 less.

• 1:39:22Matt Farah?

  Here's the, here's the only thing I'll say about the Civic SI that might not be the, the jam. If you go up big mountains, it's not very fast. Whereas the Corolla is like pretty fast. Like.

• 1:39:32Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:39:33Matt Farah?

  If you're, if you're, if you live in a pretty flat-ish area, the extra power doesn't really make a difference. But in up, up a big mountains, Colorado, something like that, the Corolla's power would make a difference. Thank you for the thoroughness of your question, though. I'm sorry I doubted you initially. Uh, we've already solved that problem. Trav hit me. Um, thoughts on the Seiko Roto call? It's a, it's, it's a somewhere between a Seiko and a G-Shock. I think it's cool. I'm not into digital watches that much. Um, I think it's cool looking. Uh, it's, it's octagonal. It has a cool bracelet, a metal case.

• 1:40:11Matt Farah?

  Um, I, I, I think it's a nice looking watch, actually. If you're into digital watches, I think the three color profiles are cool.

• 1:40:19Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:40:19Matt Farah?

  Um, the bracelet looks an awful lot like the bracelet on the canyon, doesn't it?

• 1:40:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, it does.

• 1:40:25Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, like I, I have nothing negative to say about it. I am just not that into digital watches. Um, I got into watches for a different reason.

• 1:40:33Speaker 01

  I think it's got some, some panache.

• 1:40:35Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:36Speaker 01

  On the bezel despite being a digital, a digital watch. That's good.

• 1:40:40Matt Farah?

  I haven't held one, but it does, it does look cool. Last one, and then we're done. Tim A says, is there a price point where a depreciated Bentley Bentayga becomes an appealing used luxury value? I think yes.

• 1:40:53Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:40:53Matt Farah?

  Fuck yeah, dude.

• 1:40:54Speaker 01

  Depends on reliability, how much you have to spend on repairs, all that stuff.

• 1:40:58Matt Farah?

  Ideally extended warranty situation. I mean, if you. You this you a low mile used one for a buck and a quarter. That's nice. I'd rather have a Benteke than an Urus. Probably, and I think I'd rather have a Benteke than a really fast than a Cayenne Turbo GT. I don't need a supercar. I don't need my SUV to be a sports car.

• 1:41:19Speaker 01

  Once I'm inside the Benteke, yes, I don't like the way they look, but from for a thing to drive and commute in and cover long distance. They almost unbeatable.

• 1:41:27Matt Farah?

  By the time we go outside of this show, there's likely going to be one in the driveway.

• 1:41:31Speaker 01

  Allegedly.

• 1:41:32Matt Farah?

  Allegedly, there's.

• 1:41:33Speaker 01

  It's been delayed a few times.

• 1:41:34Matt Farah?

  The ultimate rescheduled press loan with the new Benteke Speed. I don't even know what color it is. But yeah, dude, I mean, look, towing, I wrote in my piece for Road and Track. You know, you can you can get a W12 Benteke's with low miles for like eighty five, ninety thousand dollars. And that's a pretty good and you, dude, you can tow six thousand, seven thousand pounds with these things like. There is an argument that that is a better deal than like an F-150 or something platinum.

• 1:42:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:06Matt Farah?

  You know, because it's dope the rest of the time, too.

• 1:42:08Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:42:10Matt Farah?

  All right, that's our show. By the time this goes up to the public, the roof rodeo video will be up, yes?

• 1:42:19Matt Farah?

  Are we are we putting that on hold?

• 1:42:20Speaker 01

  We're pausing it for turbo.

• 1:42:21Matt Farah?

  Oh, we are. Okay, Turbo S is jump starting, jumping roof rodeo.

• 1:42:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:25Matt Farah?

  So the Turbo S video will be up on the 28th article on Road and Track as well. And.

• 1:42:35Matt Farah?

  I think that's.

• 1:42:37Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 1:42:37Matt Farah?

  That's it?

• 1:42:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll be in Korea and then I come back and you go away.

• 1:42:41Matt Farah?

  Fuck, yeah. Have we figured this out?

• 1:42:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:42:44Matt Farah?

  We did the math, right? That's why we're doing these things. Right, okay, cool. Oh, and then, yeah, and then we've got Wab coming in from Bring a Trailer. So patrons can put your questions up there. That'll be fun with Rob Dietz. All right. Thanks, boys and girls. See you later. Bye.