Giggling about swag gaps, ponytails, and anger management

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• 0:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, remember when I told you how excited I was about Lululemon dropping their fall collection on September 8? Well, the collection is finally here and I just got my hands on a few pieces and let's just say these will be in my rotation on repeat. I got the Groove Yoga Bra and the High Rise Matching Short. They're so buttery soft. They have laser cut pocket openings for optional and removable cups, which I love that because sometimes I don't want to have a bra insert when I'm working out, but sometimes I do. Performance never compromises style at Lululemon. I love their vintage-inspired styles and everything comes in such an assortment of colors. So if you don't want to stick to black, which is my traditional go-to, you can explore other colors. Like, I love a burgundy workout set. New styles from Lululemon's fall collection are here.

• 0:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Popular colors go fast, so be on the lookout for those drops. And if something doesn't work out for you, free returns always. That's lululemon.com, lululemon.com.

• 0:55Hannah Berner?

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• 1:38Hannah Berner?

  I was thinking about how women have so many little things we have to do when we're getting home that you have to be aware of.

• 1:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, so many people have my location.

• 1:47Hannah Berner?

  And you have to share your ETA, you have to check the route, you have to text everyone I'm home.

• 1:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And if your friend, like, doesn't text you, "Oh, you got home," you're calling the FBI.

• 1:55Hannah Berner?

  Yep, yep. And we joke about it because it's so normal to us, but you're constantly paying attention. Even when you're exhausted and just want to get home, your brain still has to be on. You're like, is this guy going the right route? Am I in the right place? Who's around me? What's happening?

• 2:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, there's truly no clocking out of your safety.

• 2:12Hannah Berner?

  And that's why riding in a Waymo feels different. It's an autonomous ride with an empty driver's seat, so once you get in, you have this private space that's actually just yours.

• 2:20Paige DeSorbo?

  And you know, I love alone time and I truly feel like it's such a luxury in a Waymo.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Especially after being social. Like, I love everyone, but like...

• 2:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Please, nobody speak to me.

• 2:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, give me 20 minutes. I want music, the right temperature. There's no compromising. And you can customize the ride, put on your own music, answer texts you ignored all night, stare out the window. You actually have a minute where you're not thinking about everyone else.

• 2:43Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's the thing. It's not even necessarily about doing something. Sometimes it's just, you want to sit there and not speak.

• 2:50Hannah Berner?

  And put your guard down for a second and feel safe.

• 2:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which truly women deserve.

• 2:55Hannah Berner?

  We deserve to disassociate safely for 20 minutes.

• 2:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I mean, put that on a t-shirt, for real.

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  And obviously, safety is a huge part of why that feeling matters. Knowing Waymo's safer, there's something refreshing in having that space where you can just be yourself and let Waymo handle the driving.

• 3:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And we spend enough of our lives being on.

• 3:13Hannah Berner?

  Exactly.

• 3:14Paige DeSorbo?

  We don't need to be on in the car.

• 3:16Hannah Berner?

  Getting around shouldn't require so much mental energy. And if this sounds like your ideal way to get around too, download the Waymo app and use code GIGLY to get 20% off your next two rides. You can check out the full terms in the app.

• 3:28Paige DeSorbo?

  We love a discount.

• 3:29Hannah Berner?

  And if Waymo isn't in your city yet, head to waymo.com/gigly to sign up and help bring Waymo to you.

• 3:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Sup, gigglers?

• 3:38Speaker 03

  Gary, fix your wifi.

• 3:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Manifest that shit.

• 3:42Speaker 03

  We can't be managed.

• 3:47Speaker 03

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 3:50Hannah Berner?

  What's up, my groundhog gigglers?

• 3:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Just like a little bit too, a week too late.

• 3:55Hannah Berner?

  A week too late? I don't, I don't really keep track of the groundhogs. Happy Super Bowl weekend!

• 4:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Happy Super Bowl weekend, um...

• 4:03Hannah Berner?

  Someone was social.

• 4:06Hannah Berner?

  Are you okay?

• 4:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I guess my will.

• 4:08Hannah Berner?

  Are you?

• 4:08Paige DeSorbo?

  But I was so...

• 4:09Hannah Berner?

  Against your will?

• 4:09Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm lying, yeah.

• 4:11Hannah Berner?

  You had a spread.

• 4:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 4:13Hannah Berner?

  You had a Martha Stewart spread. You love a table scape.

• 4:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I love a table scape. I had a little Super Bowl party to celebrate my commercial and to celebrate Bad Bunny. And I invited Hannah's husband.

• 4:26Hannah Berner?

  Without me, because mama was working.

• 4:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, do you want to come to my home? He was the first person to arrive. He was so early that he actually left. Because I missed the call from my doorman of like, someone's coming up because it was like thirty minutes prior and I was like running around doing stuff. And then he was like, I left. And I was like, are you coming back? Like, what's the deal?

• 4:49Hannah Berner?

  He played hard to get.

• 4:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And then, so he comes back. And then I don't think he knew this, but like I was sending Hannah like photos and it was as if I was babysitting. Like I was like, okay, he ate, um, not like a lot, but he definitely ate.

• 5:04Hannah Berner?

  Well, I wanted to make sure he was getting along with the other kids.

• 5:06Paige DeSorbo?

  And I was like, I sent her a picture. I was like, okay, he's sitting here now. He's talking to this person. Oh, he's getting up. He's going outside. Um, so we were, I literally felt like I, I can't laugh.

• 5:18Hannah Berner?

  Wait, what's going on with the botox situation?

• 5:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so she like fixed me, but now I feel like my chin is like not attached to my body.

• 5:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, no, like when I laugh, I feel like my mouth like goes inside my mouth.

• 5:36Hannah Berner?

  This is the thing, you look gorgeous.

• 5:38Paige DeSorbo?

  And I've been talking to my other friends who like have been getting botox for years and they're like, oh, frozen chin.

• 5:44Hannah Berner?

  Oh, is that?

• 5:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Not a big deal.

• 5:45Hannah Berner?

  Is that a thing?

• 5:46Paige DeSorbo?

  I guess.

• 5:47Hannah Berner?

  Well, thank you for raising awareness on it because I never heard about it.

• 5:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, we're really jumping around.

• 5:52Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 5:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It's because I'm like about to get my period, so I'm like really.

• 5:54Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I just got mine.

• 5:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you?

• 5:57Hannah Berner?

  On stage I got it, which was honestly feminist.

• 6:00Paige DeSorbo?

  It was.

• 6:01Hannah Berner?

  It was. I felt it.

• 6:03Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, it's not feminist.

• 6:04Hannah Berner?

  What?

• 6:04Paige DeSorbo?

  One of my friends texted me and was like, I just had a dream that you were pregnant. And I was like, keep it to yourself. It's disgusting.

• 6:13Hannah Berner?

  Because every girl thinks slash knows they're a witch, so she, just the chance.

• 6:17Paige DeSorbo?

  He's a gay man.

• 6:18Hannah Berner?

  Oh, that was uncalled for.

• 6:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I was like, why would you try and ruin my day right now? Wait, what I wanted to bring awareness to was the Adam Sandler story. False.

• 6:28Hannah Berner?

  It didn't seem like an Adam Sandler thing to do.

• 6:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, see, I thought it was like such an Adam Sandler thing to do. I feel like he's very like treat people equally.

• 6:39Hannah Berner?

  Yes, but I feel like he's not, he doesn't show off his money.

• 6:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:43Hannah Berner?

  You know, he, he just wants to wear cargo.

• 6:45Paige DeSorbo?

  And it wasn't like I just like saw a TikTok about it. Like this was like a written article that I like.

• 6:49Hannah Berner?

  This was New York Times.

• 6:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Like I looked, and so I feel bad, but in my head it happened. Like I'd like to believe that that's.

• 6:56Hannah Berner?

  But it was quality content for the time and we apologized to all the people.

• 7:00Paige DeSorbo?

  It was a good message. I wonder what it's like having rumors that are like, she's a good person.

• 7:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Could you imagine? He's like, hey, I just want to clear up this rumor about me being like a really good person.

• 7:15Paige DeSorbo?

  I would love for that to happen. I'm like, I have to clear up rumors where it's like, I didn't murder her in her own home.

• 7:21Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say one thing, because the internet is crazy this morning.

• 7:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 7:25Hannah Berner?

  Jake Paul tweeting from Puerto Rico.

• 7:29Paige DeSorbo?

  I thought, okay, now that I was like, this is a fake story. That's AI. They're like really getting him an AI.

• 7:34Hannah Berner?

  Jake Paul talking shit about Puerto Rico from his Puerto Rico mansion was crazy behavior.

• 7:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Crazy.

• 7:40Hannah Berner?

  Um, but I have to say, Bad Bunny, not to get all like, um, industry about it, but the color grading and the videography.

• 7:50Paige DeSorbo?

  The cinematography.

• 7:51Hannah Berner?

  The cinematography was spectacular.

• 7:54Paige DeSorbo?

  I wonder what it was like in person because the way it was filmed was like so perfect for TV where I feel like last year it was, I don't know if it was better on TV, but it was like so open last year.

• 8:09Hannah Berner?

  Sometimes they make the set where like if you're there in the, um, in the arena, you can see certain patterns that the camera can't see and stuff. I don't, there's so many different ways you could do it, but that was like.

• 8:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, he told a story.

• 8:20Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 8:20Paige DeSorbo?

  He did like a mini concert where there was a beginning, middle and end, rather than just like a one big performance. I don't know how to explain it.

• 8:27Hannah Berner?

  I do. I do have to say as New Yorkers, like seeing the culture he was talking about, like the bodegas.

• 8:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Having that woman from Brooklyn.

• 8:36Hannah Berner?

  And the one for, and the, and the, oh my God, I was gonna cry, but also then the men playing games in the streets. Like you just realize how much is a part of like, at least New York City, what we love.

• 8:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 8:45Hannah Berner?

  So wait, what was like the hit of your snacks?

• 8:49Paige DeSorbo?

  My Buffalo Chicken wing dip.

• 8:50Hannah Berner?

  Did you make it?

• 8:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm. I made two dips Hannah.

• 8:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god.

• 8:55Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I know.

• 8:56Hannah Berner?

  So you didn't order in anything?

• 8:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, well, god, yeah.

• 8:58Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yes, but you had enough to be like, it's a mix.

• 9:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, I had so much food at the end. Ozempic is rampant. I can't.

• 9:07Paige DeSorbo?

  You want me to host things? Stop taking Ozempic.

• 9:09Hannah Berner?

  Wait, they have to sell Ozempic portions now?

• 9:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm like, guys, this is a full charcuterie board.

• 9:16Hannah Berner?

  Mind you, I'm a full adult. I'm the older sister and I was in Indiana, visiting my family with my younger brother and his whole family. And I was like, let's make something for the Super Bowl.

• 9:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 9:27Hannah Berner?

  And my brother laughed at me. And I was like, what? I'm here and I'd love to help the party. Do you know my brother's like a full chef?

• 9:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, he was laughing at you to like, you're not helping.

• 9:37Hannah Berner?

  You're in my help, thank you.

• 9:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Why don't you be the personality higher?

• 9:41Hannah Berner?

  He was like, give me your credit card and like, figure it out. My brother's a fucking chef. He's smoking stuff. He's making pasta. He's adding prosciutto.

• 9:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Why I pictured him smoking a cigarette in the kitchen?

• 9:53Hannah Berner?

  He's yelling, I'm yelling, yes chef! Like, it's getting crazy. Um, so anyway, it was, it was a beautiful celebration. I did not watch the game, really.

• 10:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I didn't either. I mean, I watched my commer- let's talk about the commercials for a second.

• 10:07Hannah Berner?

  Yes. Thing is, I was with Lois, who was, we were chatting.

• 10:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 10:12Hannah Berner?

  So we weren't, I wasn't able to like, I mean, did I get your commercial on camera and everyone freaked out? Yes. But the other commercials, I feel like, can you fill me in a little?

• 10:21Paige DeSorbo?

  So some of the commercials, obviously mine was 10 out of 10 gorgeous.

• 10:25Hannah Berner?

  Gorgeous.

• 10:25Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just like, the message was clear.

• 10:27Hannah Berner?

  Kind of great timing. It was like right before the halftime show.

• 10:30Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I said, okay, god.

• 10:32Hannah Berner?

  Um, bueno.

• 10:34Paige DeSorbo?

  You didn't need to fate me like that. I had a couple situationships text and go, oh, wow. And I said, yeah, that's what it was intended for.

• 10:42Hannah Berner?

  Wait, did your exes text you?

• 10:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Just like a couple of that. I wouldn't even classify them as exes. It's like people I used to know.

• 10:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, what was I just gonna say? About the commercials. Oh, okay. Did you see the Alexa commercial with Chris Hemsworth and his wife? No. First of all, great casting. He's a very funny actor. I feel like people don't talk enough about. He's got great, like comedic timing and inflection. Well, Australians are inherently kind of funny. Yeah, like I'd like to see him in more comedy movies. I don't understand why he doesn't do more comedy. Ooh, love that. He's very funny. Yeah. He's funny even in Thor. You know what it is? It's because he's so beautiful. People don't want beautiful people to be funny. They're like, stay in Elaine. That's true. Yeah. But for him- That's why it's so hard for me to do comedy. Right. Yeah. But he's a man, so I'm like, you can get away with it.

• 11:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Do it all. Do whatever you want. Um, okay, so they did the commercial for, it's the Alexa, but it's like the supreme Alexa, or like the advanced Alexa, whatever. And it can see you. And so I'm watching this commercial and I'm like, hmm, well, I don't want it to be able to see me. Because it has Chris Hemsworth walking into the frame and, and holding a snake from like the backyard or something. And the Alexa says, wow, that's a big snake. Now that I'm saying it, that's a little bit sexual. Okay, didn't catch that in the beginning. And so then it's like showing you how like it can see you and like it's a normal Alexa can make your appointments, all of this stuff. But like, I don't want you to see in my home. Like, I think that's so creepy. Yeah.

• 12:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Then, the next commercial was for Ring camera. I don't get, here's the thing, critical thinking skills are just like really lacking on the internet most recently and it's like actually like really painting me like some things I'm just like, guys, you can't be serious. I'll get into that. But anyway, so the Ring camera commercial is, oh my God, there's a missing dog. My Ring camera on my front door took a picture of my dog leaving. Then it sends the picture of the dog to everyone in the neighborhood's Ring camera so they can see. And then if it, the dog goes by their Ring camera, it'll pick it up. That's literally stalking.

• 12:55Hannah Berner?

  You go, how are teenagers are supposed to leave their house to meet up with their boyfriend?

• 13:00Paige DeSorbo?

  How are you supposed to sneak out? It it's just the we I don't get why everyone's acting like it's so like, oh, my God, yeah, it's gonna help find dogs. Not one dog is gonna be used for that.

• 13:10Hannah Berner?

  Well, this is the thing. Data is so scary right now.

• 13:14Paige DeSorbo?

  It's so scary.

• 13:14Hannah Berner?

  And there's no information that like corporations are not gonna have. And they're we're just like, they're just using us for it, I feel like.

• 13:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't do you own an Alexa or like a Google anything?

• 13:26Hannah Berner?

  I don't do Bluetooth.

• 13:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Who am I talking to?

• 13:30Hannah Berner?

  I'm literally carving stuff into rocks like I'm not.

• 13:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you feel like we've aged on this podcast? Like the way we think about things. Did you see the story that Gen Z is like the dumbest generation? I'm like, we've only been telling you guys.

• 13:44Hannah Berner?

  I was just happy that when Gen Z started getting hate, millennials stopped get like everyone hated millennials. We were lazy. All we did is like talk about iced coffee and now people are like, you know what? Iced coffee is pretty good and.

• 13:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Millennials like we've been through a lot.

• 13:59Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, and and we like, I don't know. I feel bad for the millennials. We tried our best. Do you know what's crazy too about the NFL? That these a lot of these players, like the concussion rates are so bad and they're not addressing it like.

• 14:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see the not to be a full sports podcast, but like.

• 14:18Hannah Berner?

  We are sports.

• 14:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you see this stuff about the 49ers? And how they they think that they're always getting hurt and things happen in that stadium because they're right next to like some power plant? No, there's like stories that like when the when the when the boys.

• 14:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Imagine I like rooted for the boys. When they go home, they like. Turn off their wifi or they have like different like things that because they don't they feel like it is affecting their body.

• 14:49Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, this is like, what's the Julia Roberts movie where she plays the lawyer? Erin Brockovich. We need Erin Brockovich on the case.

• 14:56Paige DeSorbo?

  No, he's like, there's like something there.

• 14:58Hannah Berner?

  But like, there was a lot of concussion protocol, but then that because the NFL is a um business, they were like, we can't. Every time a guy gets a concussion, give him two weeks off because no one will be playing. We wouldn't have players.

• 15:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that's why I don't understand why those those helmets aren't mandatory.

• 15:16Hannah Berner?

  Well, apparently the helmets weren't even like helping that much. But I don't I don't know the the details. We'll have to double check. However, if you were one of these guys and all you know is football and they're like, we're gonna give you thirty million dollars to play for the next five years, but you will have anger management and depression for the rest of your life, which some would argue you have already.

• 15:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I've dated a lot of guys not in the NFL and let me tell you, they could, their anger has next level. Next frigging level.

• 15:49Hannah Berner?

  That is actually so embarrassing if you're a man going around with anger management and you weren't a professional football player. Did you see the Cardi B drama?

• 15:58Paige DeSorbo?

  No, what's happening?

• 15:59Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if the news is real or not.

• 16:01Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's the thing.

• 16:02Hannah Berner?

  Were they com- there's, I don't know.

• 16:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well, I actually, she was my prediction for um, I thought Bad Bunny was gonna bring her out to sing. I don't know why I felt that in my gut because I was like, oh, she's probably, she's gonna be there.

• 16:14Hannah Berner?

  I love her so much.

• 16:15Paige DeSorbo?

  But I love that it was Lady Gaga. I wonder if he's gonna open a club. Like, or like getting to night.

• 16:21Hannah Berner?

  He seems busy.

• 16:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, he's busy.

• 16:23Hannah Berner?

  Do you realize he was like at the Grammys figuring out what the Super Bowl was gonna be? Like, he's mid tour right now also. Like, these people's schedules, side note. Is Olivia Dean okay? Has anyone given her water?

• 16:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Where is she? What's going on?

• 16:38Hannah Berner?

  All I know is all my friends who are like influencers and going to different events, every single event Olivia Dean is performing. Man, I need and in a different dress, looking gorgeous. Is she a robot?

• 16:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 16:52Hannah Berner?

  Like she's in that point in her career where you know, people are like, we need to make money off her.

• 16:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 16:57Hannah Berner?

  I just want to say, I hope she's okay.

• 16:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 17:00Hannah Berner?

  But she's young. Yeah, she's young.

• 17:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Remember, don't go to the hospital anymore for oxygen. Remember that was like a real big thing?

• 17:08Hannah Berner?

  Well, because millennials didn't know that we could Gen Z it and be like, actually I canceled the tour.

• 17:14Hannah Berner?

  So instead, we just.

• 17:15Paige DeSorbo?

  It's gonna ruin the tour.

• 17:16Hannah Berner?

  Instead, we just go until you just have to go to the hospital.

• 17:20Paige DeSorbo?

  As someone who went on one tour, and I'm not kidding, it changed my whole life. I thought of things so differently. I started medicine. I started, you know, really getting in touch with my inner self. I mean, so many business decisions in that tour that like just starting to come to fruition, which is, we don't talk about ever. Like how transformative that tour was for our careers.

• 17:48Hannah Berner?

  It was, but you don't know it when you're in it.

• 17:50Paige DeSorbo?

  You don't know it when you're in it, but so many things happened in those three months that like we haven't even been able to say yet. But that's just how long things take.

• 17:58Hannah Berner?

  Look, are you planting seeds?

• 18:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, that's another thing because you can't say certain things. Well, one legally, I probably would get in trouble. But you can't say certain things because people's energy really is so real.

• 18:11Hannah Berner?

  You're so LA right now. I love when you get like this.

• 18:14Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it is like you can't tell certain people things because for just as much as you manifest for yourself, they manifest your downfall and you need to remember that. Like you, I know people like to say like, look, no one's going home and laying in bed at night, thinking about me. I know for a fact, people are going home and laying in bed at night, thinking about me and how to sabotage me.

• 18:34Hannah Berner?

  You know what I was thinking about with people who like wish bad upon you?

• 18:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:38Hannah Berner?

  Or who do things that are bad towards you? That is karmically so bad for them.

• 18:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 18:44Hannah Berner?

  Like instead of me being like, why are you mean to me? I just go like, damn, the karma is gonna come around.

• 18:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And you want to know why I believe that?

• 18:51Hannah Berner?

  I really do.

• 18:52Paige DeSorbo?

  There have been times where I've done things.

• 18:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, that felt bad. I probably shouldn't have done that. And then something will happen to me and I'll be like, I actually deserved that.

• 19:02Hannah Berner?

  It's almost like a self hate. Like if you try to hurt someone else, then you think, oh, it's gonna come back around to me and it does.

• 19:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 19:09Hannah Berner?

  Cause you're putting that energy into the world, the negativity. So anyway.

• 19:13Paige DeSorbo?

  We're scared.

• 19:15Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so I can't stop thinking about a commercial I saw during the big game about the Pepsi paradox. Did you see that?

• 19:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I did.

• 19:22Hannah Berner?

  It's kinda crazy. It's about a phenomenon that when labels disappear.

• 19:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 19:26Hannah Berner?

  People prefer the taste of Pepsi zero sugar over Coke zero sugar. And it makes you think about like, do people just like things because they're trendy or popular?

• 19:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, you've accused me of it. But yes, because I think my number one example that I always think about is everyone loves matcha and I rather, oh, I can't.

• 19:48Hannah Berner?

  It's cute in the Instagram story. It's green. It makes you look better than people because it's healthy.

• 19:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, let me grab my brush really quick. Like for what?

• 19:57Hannah Berner?

  That reminds me of how I wanna de-influence people from doing the it girl bob. Just because you see someone edited on Instagram looking hot in a bob doesn't mean you need to ruin your life. I don't have the jawline.

• 20:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 20:09Hannah Berner?

  And I never will.

• 20:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And they did a blind taste test across the country and Pepsi zero sugar won literally everywhere.

• 20:17Hannah Berner?

  In every city.

• 20:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, in every city.

• 20:19Hannah Berner?

  Ooh, I love de-influencing and I love a game.

• 20:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so we're gonna do the Pepsi zero sugar challenge.

• 20:25Hannah Berner?

  Let's go. So you open it up like this. Okay, guys, so we can't see which one is which. I haven't been this excited in years. Oh no, with my nails, I don't know if I could open this.

• 20:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I can do it.

• 20:36Hannah Berner?

  And that's what friends are for.

• 20:41Hannah Berner?

  Let's try.

• 20:42Paige DeSorbo?

  We're gonna try the this on the right.

• 20:45Hannah Berner?

  On the right, okay.

• 20:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 20:50Hannah Berner?

  Okay.

• 20:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Which one do you like better?

• 20:54Hannah Berner?

  The one on the left.

• 20:55Paige DeSorbo?

  The one on the right is like a little bit too much.

• 20:58Hannah Berner?

  The one on the left has like a sweetness to it.

• 21:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, but it's not like overwhelming.

• 21:03Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 21:03Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like dying to know. Yeah, Pepsi. Wow, Pepsi Zero Sugar.

• 21:08Hannah Berner?

  Me too.

• 21:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm actually like low key very shocked.

• 21:12Hannah Berner?

  It has the perfect level of crispiness.

• 21:15Paige DeSorbo?

  It truly does.

• 21:15Hannah Berner?

  The results are in. Pepsi Zero Sugar tastes better.

• 21:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so go out and try Pepsi Zero Sugar today.

• 21:21Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 21:22Paige DeSorbo?

  And do the Pepsi challenge yourself and let your tastes decide.

• 21:25Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm. This segment was brought to you by Pepsi. Um, so I know about doing stuff together. I didn't even talk about this. We did this project. And they were like, okay, one of you has to have their hair down. One of you has to have their hair up. You went first and they were like, okay, you have your hair down. I come in all happy, innocent, so excited for a fun day at the job.

• 21:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I forgot what I.

• 21:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, keep going.

• 21:52Hannah Berner?

  What was your perspective on it?

• 21:55Hannah Berner?

  I would have loved to know because I was fighting for my fucking life.

• 21:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, look, let me just preface. We did this job and Hannah looked stunning coming out of the trailer. Like truly, they had her in like such a cute little outfit. I never see her hair in a ponytail and I'm like, oh my God, like I looked, I did a double take because I'm just not used to seeing your hair like that.

• 22:12Hannah Berner?

  But I'm also like, I'm a confident person. You know that? Like I think I have reversed body dysmorphia. I think everyone's obsessed with me. And but the second I put my hair in a ponytail, I feel like an Amish boy. I don't like it.

• 22:26Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the only time I've ever, you're ever insecure about how you look.

• 22:29Hannah Berner?

  So insecure. I think everyone's looking at me.

• 22:32Paige DeSorbo?

  You look.

• 22:33Hannah Berner?

  You're what I should have been insecure.

• 22:35Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, the ponytail is the least of your problems.

• 22:37Hannah Berner?

  The thing about a ponytail, it's so exposing. I feel like people can see every fucking part of my face. And then also, there's something to be said about the shape of your head, where you put the ponytail.

• 22:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:50Hannah Berner?

  Like I like it kind of high.

• 22:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:52Hannah Berner?

  And look, I want to be easy to work with. I want people to say Hannah was a joy.

• 22:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 22:57Hannah Berner?

  An absolute pleasure. A pleasure. And that's all I can really bring.

• 23:01Paige DeSorbo?

  It's really all we can bring.

• 23:03Hannah Berner?

  All we can bring is vibes.

• 23:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Because if you think we're showing up and we know what we're supposed to do, you're wrong.

• 23:08Hannah Berner?

  No one's saying she, she knew she did well. It's more, the vibes were right. So I walk in, we're doing a ponytail. I said, okay. And then she puts it lower than I like.

• 23:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm hmm. Mid head.

• 23:19Hannah Berner?

  Mid head, which I've.

• 23:20Paige DeSorbo?

  So front on, it's scalped?

• 23:24Hannah Berner?

  And also, I, I don't have a wide top of my head, so it's hard to get, long story short, I was scared.

• 23:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 23:32Hannah Berner?

  It's, it's like my dentist's office. Like, I was like, this is bad. And then they're like, and we are gonna put this on camera. So I walk out of the trailer.

• 23:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And Hannah goes to me, and just like, I really, no, we're on set at this point. Like, we've walked to the set. Hannah's like, I'm just like, I'm kind of insecure. It's just like, my hair's in a ponytail and like, it's just like, my head is shaped weird.

• 23:50Hannah Berner?

  And I was like, I think my head is shaped weird. Like, put my finger on it, because I was like, something's fucking off.

• 23:55Paige DeSorbo?

  And I look at her and I go, babe, not your head, it's actually your ears.

• 24:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And I literally, right when I said it, I was like, I thought that was gonna help. And that actually is probably doing.

• 24:05Hannah Berner?

  By the way, there's 17 people on set.

• 24:07Paige DeSorbo?

  That's actually probably doing real.

• 24:10Hannah Berner?

  But actually, in that moment, I said, thank you. Because people are gaslighting me, being like, no, you look so good with your ponytail. No, when I wear a ponytail.

• 24:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, honey, that's also a quick fix. Like, you could pin those back in one procedure.

• 24:23Hannah Berner?

  This is my thing when I was little, because I thought about it, because I've been called elf ears before and, you know, it made me who I am today.

• 24:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Did you put your hair behind your ears a lot when growing up?

• 24:32Hannah Berner?

  No, that would literally, I'd be bullied. They called me Legolas.

• 24:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, because usually, like, I feel like I've seen some girls where, like, they put their hair behind their ears so much that they made their ears jut out. I did a lot of research in middle school. I was like, something's different.

• 24:47Hannah Berner?

  But you know, this is actually so cute. And I said this to myself when I was a teenager. I remember saying, and this is not decentering men, I'm so sorry, I didn't know what it was yet. But I said, the man who falls in love with me is gonna fall in love with me because of my unique ears. And I'm gonna keep my ears the way they are.

• 25:02Paige DeSorbo?

  That's a really good message.

• 25:04Hannah Berner?

  And Dez told me I should pin them back. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But um, no, yeah, and my ears, whenever I wear a hat with my, in a ponytail, I always put the hat over my ears. I have a lot of rules when it comes to the ears. But I mean, I'm perfect in every way. It's just like, people don't talk about when other people do your glam. The closest way I could describe it to make this a more relatable conversation is, and everyone understand this, when you get your makeup and hair done for a wedding.

• 25:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 25:35Hannah Berner?

  And you, you don't want to be difficult.

• 25:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 25:38Hannah Berner?

  But you look in the mirror and who, you don't know who that is.

• 25:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Thought I was gonna find my husband here, not tonight. Certainly not at this wedding.

• 25:46Hannah Berner?

  Suddenly they're putting mousse in it.

• 25:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 25:48Hannah Berner?

  You've, you've got waves you didn't even know you could have. But I feel like it's, most people can relate to like having a hairstyle they feel more comfortable in. I do have to say, you're kind of doing this off center.

• 25:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Start it on my hair.

• 26:01Hannah Berner?

  Are we feeling bad about it again?

• 26:02Paige DeSorbo?

  I just like the color, like it only looks good curly now because the color is so insane on the top.

• 26:09Hannah Berner?

  Are you doing a center part or a side part? What's happening here?

• 26:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know.

• 26:13Hannah Berner?

  And then you have fake glasses on, but you don't want to put them on.

• 26:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I could put them on, but I just felt like it was like aggressive for the pod.

• 26:20Hannah Berner?

  It was aggressive for the pod.

• 26:21Paige DeSorbo?

  What am I, a guy recording the podcast?

• 26:25Paige DeSorbo?

  What am I, like gonna bring on an OnlyFans model and act like, do you ever get those TikToks?

• 26:30Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I have to, I always press mute because I'll like throw my phone across the wall.

• 26:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes I get on an algorithm and I'm like, where have I been that this has never come across my desk? And why are like, why are there eight women around a table talking to one guy who's like berating all of them?

• 26:46Hannah Berner?

  Talking to one guy who's like never spoken to a woman before and is like telling them what he read online about women.

• 26:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, speaking of an algorithm that I was never on, that I recently got onto, was the raw milk?

• 26:58Hannah Berner?

  Oh, no.

• 27:00Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know why.

• 27:01Hannah Berner?

  Well, isn't there drama?

• 27:02Paige DeSorbo?

  So I was even, I was late to like the whole Ballerina Farms.

• 27:06Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, me too.

• 27:06Paige DeSorbo?

  I was late to all the trad wife stuff.

• 27:08Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 27:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I think my TikTok was like.

• 27:10Hannah Berner?

  Your TikTok was like that you're not.

• 27:11Paige DeSorbo?

  It might not land with her. Let's actually give it a second. It might not land with her. And so like I missed the bulk of it. But I just got on and realized that people have been drinking raw milk. And in my head, I'm like, I don't know what raw milk even means.

• 27:25Hannah Berner?

  Right out, right out of the cow.

• 27:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I was like, oh, you live on a farm. You like, I thought like, oh, you drink it warm.

• 27:30Hannah Berner?

  I actually dated a guy who lived on a dairy farm. And there's all these, there's a lot of rules with milk because you have to make sure you don't die.

• 27:38Paige DeSorbo?

  There's a lot of rules.

• 27:39Hannah Berner?

  For a reason.

• 27:40Paige DeSorbo?

  So apparently in some part of the country with the trad wives. It's really, it's like, so like, what is that show that was on Hulu?

• 27:50Hannah Berner?

  Seeking Amish?

• 27:51Paige DeSorbo?

  No, what was that show that was like really scary that like could come true?

• 27:54Hannah Berner?

  Oh, Handmaid's Tale?

• 27:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 27:56Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 27:56Paige DeSorbo?

  It's giving the Handmaid's Tale a little bit.

• 27:58Hannah Berner?

  This is a show that's kind of autobiography.

• 28:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, what's that show that's happening right now that we're living through? So basically, these girls are like drinking raw milk, telling people to drink raw milk. And this doctor like made this TikTok and, and she was like, hey, it's not safe because you don't realize how much bacteria is coming from the cow. And if you don't pasteurize it and do these cer- certain things, like you could get really sick and like you could die.

• 28:28Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 28:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Basically.

• 28:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 28:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Like it's illegal in Canada to even sell raw milk. They're like, yeah, you freaks. It's 20, it's 2026.

• 28:37Hannah Berner?

  I would honestly trust Canada because they have free healthcare. So they're not monetizing people getting sick. Whatever Canada's doing, let's keep an eye on.

• 28:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, they're also just nice, you know?

• 28:47Hannah Berner?

  Like, I trust them.

• 28:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I trust them. And so this girl, this one girl was saying, um, so then I'm like on it. And now I'm getting like all these videos and this other girl was saying like, unless you live, she lived on a farm.

• 28:58Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 28:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Unless you live on a farm and you work with farm animals, you would have that certain bacteria in raw milk. Because like there's E. coli in the dust and like, so farmers are like a little bit more immune.

• 29:10Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like, okay, maybe if they drink raw milk once in a while. But like, the average person who lives in like, a city should not be drinking raw milk. And I'm like, wait, how is this such a big thing and I had no idea about it?

• 29:22Hannah Berner?

  Food trends just make me laugh so much, because you know when we grew up and it was like, no fat, low fat, no fat, and everything's like, 100% fat.

• 29:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I was just talking about this with one of my girlfriends. Do you remember the Special K diet?

• 29:35Hannah Berner?

  Oh my god, yeah, I do. Which, geniuses. They were like, only have, only eat my cereal.

• 29:43Paige DeSorbo?

  My best friend from high school, one time was so fucking crazy about the Special K diet. And like, she's like, if I don't have Special K.

• 29:55Hannah Berner?

  No one knew it was in Special K.

• 29:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, autumn in New York is the season where we can finally start dressing again. Every single thing is an excuse to put on a look. Going to work, outfit. Leading a meeting, outfit. Getting drinks with your friends, obviously outfit. And as we all know, every great outfit starts from the feet up. That is why I'm currently obsessed with Allies from Sam Edelman. They're a ballet flat, but a little something extra for fall. A contrasting velvet cap toe, I have them in this gorgeous azure blue, which is like a dusty muted blue that somehow goes with everything, even Daphne's eyes. They're so cute, and I'm already envisioning my next outfit. Straight leg jeans, an oversized blazer, and a little shoulder bag, very, I just threw this on, when we all know I absolutely did not.

• 30:39Paige DeSorbo?

  And Hannah is loving hers too. She has the Michaela, which is the Sam Edelman's take on a Mary Jane. And this season, it comes in the chicest leopard. So gorge, so easy, and exactly the kind of shoe that makes an otherwise basic outfit look like you actually tried. And there's so much more coming from Sam Edelman this fall beyond these two. Like the new Teigan and Tallulah pumps, plus ready-to-wear handbags, fragrances, and even a new men's collection. So basically, you can make sure both you and your man are looking good for date night. Because we're not doing all that getting dressed just to let him show up in a t-shirt. Head to samedelman.com and get 15% off with code GIGGLY15. This episode is sponsored by the new Hershey's Creme Bars in Salted Caramel and

• 31:21Paige DeSorbo?

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• 32:03Paige DeSorbo?

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• 34:03Hannah Berner?

  I did something, speaking of milk, I got a protein shake this morning because I felt like I was the pillar of health in the community.

• 34:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Another thing I don't trust, but keep going.

• 34:12Hannah Berner?

  But no, they're putting protein in your mayonnaise.

• 34:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:16Hannah Berner?

  So if you see me at the airport after a weekend of tour, it's not a pretty sight when I'm getting home after all the shows.

• 34:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:24Hannah Berner?

  This is like the most embarrassing I've done in public in a while. I get my protein shake.

• 34:28Paige DeSorbo?

  From where? Like from like-

• 34:29Hannah Berner?

  The Hudson News.

• 34:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 34:31Hannah Berner?

  And I-

• 34:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Like a bottled?

• 34:32Hannah Berner?

  Yes, a bottled one. Also, I got a magazine. I got Architectural Digest.

• 34:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 34:37Hannah Berner?

  I was like so ready to just end the weekend and get home. And I open, there's like a clasp outside the protein shake. And I open it and I'm like not really thinking and I'm assuming that there's like a little metal, you know-

• 34:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Spigot?

• 34:53Hannah Berner?

  Thing like covering it that you have to open, you know?

• 34:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 34:57Hannah Berner?

  So I start shaking it.

• 34:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 34:59Hannah Berner?

  There's no metal thing.

• 35:00Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just going all over?

• 35:01Hannah Berner?

  So I just opened my protein shake, if you were watching, and I just threw it all over me, all over my luggage.

• 35:08Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like, bad bunny was amazing, pop bottles.

• 35:11Hannah Berner?

  Literally pop bottles on my Architectural Digest, on me. And then you're like, you don't have napkins near you. And then I'm like, do I have to carry all this protein soak stuff? So I just waited for it to dry.

• 35:23Hannah Berner?

  And then I got home and Des was like, how are you? I'm like, I think I need to take a shower.

• 35:27Paige DeSorbo?

  You just smell like milk?

• 35:28Hannah Berner?

  Like vanilla.

• 35:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I would never even think to get a protein shake in like a.

• 35:34Hannah Berner?

  I get crazy. I told you, I'm not crazy in the bedroom, but I'm crazy at a 7-Eleven.

• 35:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you're like, you're like, what's up with this frappuccino?

• 35:42Hannah Berner?

  I get pizza at 7-Eleven.

• 35:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, look, I get to keep, there's at least, at least once every like two months, I have to order at midnight from 7-Eleven and I have to get four taquitos.

• 35:55Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 35:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I have to get like a chip situation.

• 35:58Hannah Berner?

  That'll make me glow in the dark.

• 36:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And then I have to get like some type of crazy drink.

• 36:03Hannah Berner?

  I also think like, if I'm gonna get a stomach ache anyway, like go for it. Also, this is a very random thought. Do you remember like when we were watching TV growing up, there used to be more twins? There were the Sprouse twins, there was Tia and Tamara, there were the Olsen twins, twins were hot, twins were rampant, twins were everywhere. Where did the twins go?

• 36:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, why are there no twins on the television? Lindsay Lohan, fake twin.

• 36:31Hannah Berner?

  Fake twin.

• 36:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait.

• 36:34Hannah Berner?

  Or are they twins and they're not telling us and that's how Olivia Dean is actually doing all her performances?

• 36:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Bring back famous twins. Speaking of AI.

• 36:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 36:44Paige DeSorbo?

  See, there's a documentary on Netflix that I watched the other morning. It's called, uh, I don't know what it's called. But it, it might be the girl's name is called Lucy Letty. Did you watch it?

• 36:55Hannah Berner?

  Oh my God, it's really disturbing.

• 36:57Paige DeSorbo?

  It's really disturbing.

• 36:59Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, like be mentally prepared.

• 37:01Paige DeSorbo?

  You wanna know one of the most disturbing parts of it in my perspective was the AI actors.

• 37:08Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah. Well, it said like rendering.

• 37:11Paige DeSorbo?

  It was like, oh, we don't, these people don't wanna show what they really look like or sound like. Totally fine.

• 37:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Put in an, put in an actress.

• 37:22Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 37:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Like the AI, I was like, no, this looks like I'm watching like a Sims.

• 37:27Hannah Berner?

  It was distracting.

• 37:29Paige DeSorbo?

  It was extremely distracting and like uncomfortable.

• 37:32Hannah Berner?

  I'd rather a scary guy being like.

• 37:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Or I'd rather it be like a girl re- reading like an account from someone else like, okay, this is what they said and like, or if it was like someone that looked like that person or was an actress and like legitimately pretended to be that person like, this is what happened to my baby. Like, doing it in AI, I really didn't like it.

• 37:57Hannah Berner?

  The whole thing is very disturbing. It's basically about accusing a killer nurse.

• 38:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Do you think she did it?

• 38:04Hannah Berner?

  Did you get British when you said that?

• 38:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I did, actually.

• 38:07Hannah Berner?

  I, like, oh, this is the thing with documentaries.

• 38:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 38:11Hannah Berner?

  They show you what you want to see. So like, immediately they can make you think she was guilty and then immediately they can make me think that she's not. The jarring evidence was that she was there for every single murder or death. And then when they took her off, it stopped. But then people were saying that there was always, I don't know, like, I don't have enough information. They really screwed me up. And at the end, I was like, I looked online for like a second and I got more confused.

• 38:41Paige DeSorbo?

  One of the things that made me a little weary is like, when you, when someone crazy does something crazy, you're like, well, yeah, they're crazy. Like, that's a crazy person. Like, you couldn't tell me anything about anyone that I deem crazy that would like shock me. I'm like, yeah, he's always been like that. He's a psycho. But what with her, the thing that I found so fascinating was her friend, her like nurse friend that went all through school with her was like, no, no, this is not her, like, there's no signs, there was nothing in her childhood that was like, she hurt animals or like, she was like weird and did this. Like, it wasn't like she did anything and like escalated.

• 39:19Hannah Berner?

  Well, you know, it's crazy. Early on, I did say, this woman didn't do it.

• 39:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:24Hannah Berner?

  Do you know why?

• 39:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Why?

• 39:25Hannah Berner?

  Cause the police come over, they said, Lucy, you're arrested. And she says, can I say bye to my cat?

• 39:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:32Hannah Berner?

  And I said, she's not a serial killer. She's not, and she picks up the cat, and then I got emotional.

• 39:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 39:38Hannah Berner?

  She picks up the cat, she kisses the cat. Serial killers are known to hurt animals. And I, are you crying?

• 39:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but like then it makes me, cause then I'm like, okay, but then think of the parents whose babies died.

• 39:49Hannah Berner?

  I know.

• 39:49Paige DeSorbo?

  There were so many coincidences.

• 39:52Hannah Berner?

  I know, I know. And then they saw a journal, which apparently she was in therapy and the therapist was telling her to just write all her intrusive thoughts.

• 40:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:02Hannah Berner?

  And they tried to use that against her as evidence.

• 40:04Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 40:04Hannah Berner?

  Where she was like, she said stuff like, I'm.

• 40:07Paige DeSorbo?

  I, I did it.

• 40:08Hannah Berner?

  I did it.

• 40:10Paige DeSorbo?

  They wrote it all out. But then she was like, I feel responsible.

• 40:14Hannah Berner?

  I felt like everyone was blaming me and I felt like I was evil and I was a bad person that people thought it was me kinda thing.

• 40:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Two things I felt like they should have looked into more.

• 40:22Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Sometimes you get into work environments and it can get diabolical.

• 40:28Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 40:28Paige DeSorbo?

  And people will literally do things that you would never believe that a human is capable of. The fact that she had so many problems with the other nurses being mean to her, something didn't sit right there.

• 40:41Hannah Berner?

  Is, when do nurses have the time to be mean while they're like saving lives?

• 40:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. So I thought that was like interesting. Not that I think that someone would like, people would try and like conspire against her to be like a murderer, but like people do crazy things.

• 40:54Hannah Berner?

  Crazy.

• 40:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Anyway, so that was like on the light end.

• 40:59Hannah Berner?

  Oh, I watched a documentary about a, a chess player.

• 41:03Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I think I saw it and I, and I scrolled.

• 41:06Hannah Berner?

  See, that, I was jacked up by that. A man in Hungary. Everyone, sit down for this beautiful story. A man in Hungary. And it was like communist Hungary and they were so poor and he was like, I have to get out of this life. And he read all these books on geniuses and he realized I can create a genius. So he has three daughters, basically like as an experiment and decides if I train them for like six hours a day in something specific, they will become a genius at it.

• 41:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Uh, I mean, yeah.

• 41:40Hannah Berner?

  He decides.

• 41:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Serena Williams.

• 41:41Hannah Berner?

  He decides chess, cause it's the cheapest thing.

• 41:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:45Hannah Berner?

  And what I loved about it is that. At the time, there were no chess players who were women, and it was like a real boys' club.

• 41:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like the real Queen's Gambit, like?

• 41:55Hannah Berner?

  I don't, it, it, it seems similar, but I don't think it was the same. But it was the concept of like, it really reminded me of stand-up comedy where everyone's, all the men. It was like the seventies and the men were like, yeah, women aren't as smart.

• 42:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:07Hannah Berner?

  They said, women get too reactive, they don't know how to play aggressive enough, they freak out when they get attacked. Like, all these stereotypes. And it made me realize, like, also, it's a boys' club, like, what woman sees that and goes, yeah, I'd love to join in and play with them.

• 42:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:21Hannah Berner?

  And that's how a lot of women feel with stand-up, like, yeah, I'd love to go to that bar and take the mic with all these men just fucking hating on me.

• 42:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 42:27Hannah Berner?

  So, one of, they all get really good, they end up winning gold for women. And then, one of them excels and beats all the boys.

• 42:38Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh.

• 42:38Hannah Berner?

  And it was iconic, and she got, became top ten in like, the world of all chess.

• 42:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, speaking of, um, winning gold, are you watching the Olympics?

• 42:47Hannah Berner?

  I watched a little bit of the ice skating, but it gives me a lot of anxiety.

• 42:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, well, did you, there's a documentary on Netflix that I watched, it was like, three episodes about the figure skating, uh, couples.

• 42:59Hannah Berner?

  Oh, yeah.

• 42:59Paige DeSorbo?

  And now, they are like, competing, which actually, I think I missed it, I think the one couple might have won.

• 43:04Hannah Berner?

  I don't know what anything is.

• 43:05Paige DeSorbo?

  But, besides the point. Did you see the Lindsey Vonn stuff?

• 43:10Hannah Berner?

  I didn't see the fall because I actually would, couldn't, wouldn't be able to handle it emotionally. Cause I'm so, I'm such an empath.

• 43:18Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I need to see it immediately.

• 43:20Hannah Berner?

  Lindsey Vonn's a hero, Lindsey Vonn's incredible. Well, this is the thing, the way she was airlifted was the same way I was airlifted when I hurt my pinky, so let's just all remember that. Um, you can die skiing, like, all these winter sports, you can die. That's why I don't like watching it, every time someone goes down, I'm like, eh, they're gonna crack their head open.

• 43:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I think I was also unfamiliar with how fast.

• 43:43Hannah Berner?

  Hundred miles per hour.

• 43:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, wait, does that say ninety-three?

• 43:47Hannah Berner?

  Like, it's also like, she's like, the, basically the most famous person in the Winter Olympics, so like.

• 43:52Paige DeSorbo?

  I couldn't, well, that's the other thing, I'm. People were like, wow, this is her last Olympics and like, maybe she feels like she's like falling off a little bit and I'm like, gun to my head. If someone said, name another person that skis in the Olympics, I would die because I have no fucking idea other than her.

• 44:09Hannah Berner?

  And also Lindsay, this is her life, being a champion and she wanted to just go down the mountain.

• 44:17Paige DeSorbo?

  However, she could.

• 44:18Hannah Berner?

  However, she could. And I have to tell you guys.

• 44:20Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I give her a lot of credit for even having the courage to do that because I mean surely.

• 44:26Hannah Berner?

  I would have just rolled down on my butt.

• 44:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Surely she broke the other leg, right?

• 44:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, yeah. But I'm proud of her for, like, that's what she wanted to do. She wanted to go out trying and we can all learn from that.

• 44:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 44:42Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, but there are two types of people in this world. People who like roller coasters and people who don't.

• 44:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't.

• 44:49Hannah Berner?

  I don't.

• 44:50Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'll do a water ride.

• 44:53Hannah Berner?

  I'll do like that spin cup thing.

• 44:54Paige DeSorbo?

  See, I would never do the spin cup.

• 44:57Hannah Berner?

  Like you even convinced me.

• 44:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I can't, I'd rather do a roller coaster than anything that spins. Do you remember?

• 45:02Hannah Berner?

  I'll eat a corn dog.

• 45:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you remember they used to have that ride where you like, you would spin and you would, and it would spin so fast that you would stick to the fucking wall?

• 45:10Hannah Berner?

  Yes, that was crazy.

• 45:12Paige DeSorbo?

  I can remember being like five, being like, this is not regulated. Like I was literally a Karen at five years old being like, I don't think this looks right.

• 45:22Hannah Berner?

  What kids were flying in the air.

• 45:24Paige DeSorbo?

  But they had to shut it down. I think a kid fucking literally did die.

• 45:29Paige DeSorbo?

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• 46:13Paige DeSorbo?

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• 46:58Paige DeSorbo?

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• 47:42Paige DeSorbo?

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• 48:02Hannah Berner?

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• 48:45Hannah Berner?

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• 48:55Paige DeSorbo?

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• 49:40Paige DeSorbo?

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• 50:09Hannah Berner?

  Wait, so if we were to do like a show like Traitors, you know how they do cra- would you rather like um a crazy rowing and running up a mountain? Or where they put roaches on your hand and stuff?

• 50:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, for fuck's sake Hannah.

• 50:23Hannah Berner?

  Like they pour roaches on you?

• 50:25Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, I would think that I, I wanna say that I could do the roaches, but when we went to that, like where did we go? That alligator place? I was like, yeah, I don't like even being near them. Here's the only thing I couldn't do, and this is the only thing where I'd have to go in being like, not my forte, don't pick me for this challenge. I can't eat anything. Gross. Like, I'm throwing up. Like, I, I could, I, my gag, I could throw up just thinking about it.

• 50:53Hannah Berner?

  But you know what I forget? Is there is the element of there's a camera on you. And I, I used to watch shows being like, how's this person crying? Or how are they getting so? When there's a camera on you and a producer in your ear, you do shit you would never do. Like, I could see myself there and there's a cockroach and they're like, Hannah, if you eat this cockroach, you're gonna inspire women. And then everyone's gonna think you're incredibly strong. And I'm gonna be like, let's do it. And next thing you know, you're projectile puking on TV.

• 51:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you remember that one time on Summer House that they made us do trapeze? And I was like really,

• 51:26Hannah Berner?

  It didn't even make the cut.

• 51:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, I can't do this. I'm gonna cry. And if I break my neck, my mom's gonna kill me. And then it never aired.

• 51:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, my hands, my palms get too sweaty, as you guys know. So I was like getting it, but I couldn't catch it because my palms are too sweaty. But that was really scary.

• 51:43Paige DeSorbo?

  That was crazy.

• 51:44Hannah Berner?

  Well, we're just, we're just experimental rats.

• 51:47Paige DeSorbo?

  We were just kids. We were kids. We didn't know. I was wearing a one-piece. Who was I to say now?

• 51:53Hannah Berner?

  We were literal children.

• 51:55Paige DeSorbo?

  No. Back to the segment of my weekly tuning forks. I have gotten inundated with DMs from the gigglers being,

• 52:04Hannah Berner?

  Well, you like begged for it.

• 52:05Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I begged for it.

• 52:06Hannah Berner?

  You were like, give me a session, please.

• 52:09Paige DeSorbo?

  And the girls were like, I have a tuning fork. I didn't say anything. Like, I do sound baths all the time. And then I have this masseuse, I don't even wanna call her a masseuse because she's so much more than that. No, she, yeah. No, she's an artist. She does like, um,

• 52:26Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know if there's a specific name for it, but like she does massages in the way of like, do you have trauma? Cause I can feel it and let me get it out like in that sense. She's transformative. I really, I like, can't say enough things about the good things. No, she's literally my body shaman and I've only met her. I've only been in contact with her, but like the past six months.

• 52:46Hannah Berner?

  Where was most of your trauma?

• 52:48Paige DeSorbo?

  My lower back and my shoulders. Anyhow, she, I like converted her to being a giggler and she texted me and she was like, two things I want to say to you. One, I can help you with like your botox and I can do like different massages on your face. And two, I'm obsessed with tuning forks. They're actually so good. Like if you stay consistent.

• 53:10Hannah Berner?

  Did she say anything about my trauma that she noticed?

• 53:14Paige DeSorbo?

  You're gonna have to do a session.

• 53:16Hannah Berner?

  And she's gonna work for free.

• 53:18Paige DeSorbo?

  We're gonna have to block off a six hour a day. No, you really should go to her.

• 53:22Hannah Berner?

  I am due for a psychic.

• 53:24Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, she's not a psychic.

• 53:26Hannah Berner?

  Well, I

• 53:27Paige DeSorbo?

  But you are due for a psychic.

• 53:28Hannah Berner?

  I am due. You know, I actually had one set and she rescheduled on me. I wonder if she was like, I don't like the energy.

• 53:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm actually not gonna tell her that. So maybe we just like skip.

• 53:37Hannah Berner?

  You like every six months, right?

• 53:39Paige DeSorbo?

  If I'm having a rough go of it. But no, I usually do like once a year is like, I do like a big one, the top of the year. When every year around my birthday is when I start like

• 53:51Hannah Berner?

  Being reflective and stuff and getting in your head too much. Um, I did get

• 53:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Some say overthinking and I'd actually like to say, maybe I'm just thinking the normal amount and everyone else isn't thinking enough. Like, I feel like sometimes like TikTok and social media is like, you have ADHD and you have depression and you have, and totally you could, but sometimes when it comes to overthinking, I'm like, maybe, maybe you should just think more, you know, like the rest of us are out here thinking. And you think you're overthinking, but you're not.

• 54:22Hannah Berner?

  But this is my thing. Happiness involves being in the moment, which involves not thinking and ask your tuning force.

• 54:30Paige DeSorbo?

  I'll get back to you on that one. I'd like to get back to you.

• 54:34Hannah Berner?

  Um, I did get a really funny DM.

• 54:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Plenty of things I've been in the moment for, and I've wanted to off myself. Okay?

• 54:42Hannah Berner?

  I did get a funny DM about, um, have you heard about hot people phobia? Like when someone's too good looking, you you're like, you can't look at them like you're like terrified.

• 54:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 54:55Hannah Berner?

  And like I've felt that before.

• 54:56Paige DeSorbo?

  I've felt that before.

• 54:57Hannah Berner?

  People with blue eyes, I don't like that. I mean, I love it, but like I'll get terrified. A man whose jaw is too strong, I get I get uncomfortable.

• 55:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Um, I'm trying to think like, is there's a situation where I've been like.

• 55:14Hannah Berner?

  I'm not trying to be like hot people have it so hard, but like it is hard to look at them.

• 55:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I think my thing is there's been like hot men where I'm like, you know, you're good looking. And like that makes me feel awkward around you.

• 55:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, cuz honestly, that's for girls to be.

• 55:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And it's more like that vibe where I'm like, I can't look at you because like you want people to look at you. Where if it's like a girl and she's really hot, it I'm more like, oh, my God, you're like really pretty.

• 55:41Hannah Berner?

  I got pissed off cuz someone posted a tweet like, don't you love like a silly man with a big nose? And I'm like, why can't we say, don't you love a silly girl with a big nose?

• 55:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, well, no, cuz women, no.

• 55:53Hannah Berner?

  No. Not allowed.

• 55:55Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 55:58Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, one of my biggest like realizations of that in my thirties was like, I feel like I've made my whole personality that like I I didn't get botox and like I'm waiting to get botox.

• 56:10Hannah Berner?

  My whole personality is I'm waiting.

• 56:11Paige DeSorbo?

  And then all of a sudden I got it and people were like, she actually is like, wow, like she's done so much plastic surgery.

• 56:19Hannah Berner?

  I did. There is a post that I keep getting for some reason showing like a before and after of you with botox when the after is not with you with botox. It's before you with botox.

• 56:29Paige DeSorbo?

  Before the picture is before me with botox.

• 56:31Hannah Berner?

  And they're like, look at what botox does.

• 56:33Paige DeSorbo?

  They're ten years apart. The pictures are literally a solid eight to nine years apart.

• 56:38Hannah Berner?

  But could you imagine a bunch of guys sitting around being like, I just wanna meet a silly girl with like a unique nose?

• 56:46Hannah Berner?

  Like that would really

• 56:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, no, because it's

• 56:47Hannah Berner?

  That's what that's what I need.

• 56:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Where women, like if you're an unattractive guy, we actually probably like you more.

• 56:55Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, except when you give an unattractive guy a new sense of confidence and then that could that could cause violence.

• 57:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, the majority of my early twenties.

• 57:04Hannah Berner?

  I do think, though, for the girls out there who like good-looking men, don't be afraid to talk to them because I heard that

• 57:11Paige DeSorbo?

  We both crossed our arms and I don't like that energy.

• 57:13Hannah Berner?

  I think it's because we're talking about good-looking men.

• 57:15Paige DeSorbo?

  We're like, and don't look at me.

• 57:18Hannah Berner?

  Don't look at me. Um, a lot of good-looking men are insecure.

• 57:25Paige DeSorbo?

  What did you think of Bad Bunny's outfit?

• 57:29Hannah Berner?

  Incredible. I would wear it. I'd wear it tomorrow.

• 57:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I loved the um, like aesthetic of like everyone in like ivory and like khaki. I like that he was in all white. Like, I love an all-white moment.

• 57:40Hannah Berner?

  I do have to say, the aura of that man is crazy because for you to perform with like a hundred people around you and you still cannot take your eyes off him. Like, he could have easily gotten lost in all the hoopla.

• 57:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, we didn't even talk about um, Charlie Puth did the beginning.

• 57:59Hannah Berner?

  My ex.

• 58:00Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. And I'm not like, you know me, I'm not turned on by a musician. If anything, I'm like, like I don't like it. Bad Bunny is different.

• 58:10Hannah Berner?

  It reminds me of the swag gap chat with couples. Have you heard of this?

• 58:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Pardon?

• 58:16Hannah Berner?

  How like couples should not have a swag gap. Like, whatever his swag is, your swag should match.

• 58:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, no, not, one person shouldn't be way cooler than the other.

• 58:26Hannah Berner?

  What I'm obsessed with doing in my shows is, because like a lot more men have been coming, like boyfriends and stuff.

• 58:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 58:32Hannah Berner?

  And I love it because I'm like, they're forced to listen to a woman without interrupting for the longest they've ever done it for. They have to listen to me for a full hour and it's like iconic.

• 58:44Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's where you have to find a quiet, quiet man.

• 58:48Paige DeSorbo?

  No, truly. That was my only requirement. I was like, does he shut the fuck up?

• 58:52Hannah Berner?

  I had a quiet man spree. I loved a shy man for a while.

• 58:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I'm in it right now. I love it.

• 58:58Hannah Berner?

  I'm not.

• 58:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I haven't heard from him in three days. Is he still in the room? I love it. It's the best.

• 59:06Hannah Berner?

  Well, let's, okay, let's shout out to quiet men. It's security when a man's quiet.

• 59:12Paige DeSorbo?

  And I feel most comfortable, like, being quiet. Wait, let's end on this. I really liked that actor in 10 Things I Hate About You, but not Heath Ledger. Like, the other guy that was in it.

• 59:25Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 59:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Whatever. A bunch of gigglers were DMing me and they're like, oh my God, I used to love him too. Look at this video that like, and there's like rumors that he's like in a cult, but he's like denied it. But I'm like, no.

• 59:36Hannah Berner?

  But that's what happens when you're in a cult. If you have to deny, if you have to deny that you're in a cult, you're in a cult, Shawn Mendes. How did we get here?

• 59:47Hannah Berner?

  Thank you so much for giggling with us. We love you so much and we'll talk to you later this week.

• 59:51Paige DeSorbo?

  See ya.

• 59:52Hannah Berner?

  Bye.