Pod Insights Scam Goddess The Scammer of All Trades with Lamorne Morris (Fraud Friday) About this episode What's poppin', con-gregation? This week, Lamorne Morris is on the pod to talk about the man who was so good at scheming that Spielberg made a movie about it. Plus, the girl who "does braces." Stay schemin!
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2:14 Laci Mosley? What's poppin', congregation? We're back for another installment of Scam Goddess. It's me, your host, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. And I, say it with me, guys. I am so excited for today's guest, but I really am. He is quite the magical Negro. You can listen to his comedy album that's out right now called The La Morning After Pill. You know him and love him from The New Girl and many, many projects. Guys, we have LaMorn Morris.
2:45 Speaker 05 Hey, hey, hey. What's up?
2:48 Laci Mosley? Did you like do a little dance there when I called you a magical Negro?
2:52 Speaker 05 I did, because magical Negroes need to dance. People, here's the thing about magical Negroes. We oftentimes dance, like most Negroes. Is that a stereotype, or is that just fact?
3:06 Laci Mosley? I'm trying to reclaim it, because magical Negro is just like the Negro in every white people movie that's like, "Go get your man," or like drives you to the airport.
3:17 Speaker 05 Drives you to the airport.
3:18 Laci Mosley? I wasn't trying to be shady.
3:20 Speaker 05 Let me tell you something. I'm a magical Negro who would just pay for an Uber. I will get you an Uber, as a friend. You know what I mean? Like, that's me doing my part.
3:30 Laci Mosley? Is it bad that I be getting my mama Ubers from the airport? I get her Uber Black, like, the SUV, but I don't go pick her up.
3:38 Speaker 05 Not at all, not at all. That's because it's luxury. Do you drive a Suburban?
3:44 Laci Mosley? Exactly. I drive an SUV.
3:47 Speaker 05 Oh, well, you, you just asshole.
3:48 Laci Mosley? You know what car I drive.
3:50 Speaker 05 Yeah, you're just asshole. Because you have a luxurious car. Now, the car I have now, I definitely pick my mom up from the airport.
4:00 Laci Mosley? Oh, so you weren't doing it because you didn't like your car. I'm not doing it because I'm not getting, I'm gonna go to LAX. Are you kidding me?
4:07 Speaker 05 Well, come on now. Listen, it's a, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. You get to sit in traffic for your mom. Back and forth, up and down the four oh five. Just so she can nag you when she get to your house. No, I'm playing.
4:21 Laci Mosley? Exactly. And go through my shit and go through my shit. She doesn't even stay at my house. She always stays at a hotel. Cause she's bougie, but she wants to come to my house and go through my shit and then go to a hotel. I'm like.
4:32 Speaker 05 That's the sole reason?
4:33 Laci Mosley? Yes.
4:35 Speaker 05 You know what'd be funny? Like if you just like as anybody, any guy that you're dating would just really like buddy buddy up to your mom. And then go, listen, go through her phone for me. Okay. You, you used to go through her shit. Like who was she texting last night? You want to go through it anyway? What? I just, cause I'm a detective.
4:54 Laci Mosley? Oh, or.
4:55 Speaker 05 By any means necessary.
4:57 Laci Mosley? Well, then you're perfect for this show. You're absolutely perfect. No, I, uh, my mom knows I can't drive. This podcast knows I can't drive. I didn't have to test for a driver's license and everyone is very well like aware of that. Like I scammed my way. I never took a driver's test at a DMV. I went to driver's.
5:15 Speaker 05 Would you take it at a dude named Daryl's house?
5:18 Laci Mosley? Listen, Daryl pulled up with the license though. It swipes.
5:25 Speaker 05 Man.
5:26 Laci Mosley? I went to driving school and then they were like, and I remember at driving school, my instructor was like, okay, girl, you need to practice more. But my parents are very self-involved, so they weren't letting me drive their cars and they drive luxury cars too. So like you're not practicing in our Mercedes. I once ran over a fence with it, so I understand, but.
5:41 Speaker 05 Oh my gosh, talk about privilege.
5:45 Speaker 05 This black privilege is crazy.
5:46 Laci Mosley? It, it is crazy black privilege because I ran over my neighbor's fence because my mom asked me to pull the car in and I hit reverse. And they paid for their own fence. They're like, it's fine. We were getting a new fence anyway.
5:57 Speaker 05 It's Tyler Perry's house. Who cares? He's rich, right?
6:03 Speaker 05 He's probably not your neighbor was Tyler Perry growing up.
6:06 Laci Mosley? I freaking wish my neighbor was Tyler Perry. All my neighbors were white.
6:10 Speaker 05 Ah, yes.
6:11 Laci Mosley? That led to much harassment. I know, I'm sorry I called you a magical negro.
6:16 Speaker 05 No, I'm just saying, you, you might be the magicalist negro of them all.
6:23 Laci Mosley? I'm trying to be every day, but it will not involve me driving anyone to the airport. Um, we can get into it. What's hot and fried? So this is where Lamorne and I are gonna talk about what's popping in these streets is, uh, what scams are out there? We want to keep you safe from scams unless they're my scams, which you have willingly agreed to participate in if you own an iPhone especially, because I know you didn't read that contract that you accepted.
6:47 Speaker 05 No.
6:48 Laci Mosley? So, and you don't know what it says. I have a clause, no words.
6:53 Speaker 05 I have no idea what this show is about. I'm, I'm, I'm in, I'm in for a, for a journey. This is gonna be fun, I think.
7:00 Laci Mosley? You know it's gonna be fun because I'm here.
7:04 Laci Mosley? So guys, obviously we've been amidst a pandemic and the scammers, just like Ms. Rona, they don't sleep, okay? They're out here just like the virus and they're spreading and you need to be aware. Um, apparently coronavirus scams have cost Americans thirty-nine million dollars so far.
7:25 Speaker 05 Wow.
7:26 Laci Mosley? Mind you, we've been in the pandemic for like three months. That's like ten million a month.
7:34 Laci Mosley? So nearly fifty-two thousand Americans. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I can do math too. I said over.
7:46 Laci Mosley? You know what? You see, I am gonna call you a magical negro.
7:54 Laci Mosley? You know what? Thank you for letting me go ahead on my podcast, Lamorne. Thank you so much for telling me I can talk. Okay, see the patriarchy. That's why we don't be having men on this show.
8:05 Speaker 05 Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm just gonna drink my protein shake.
8:10 Laci Mosley? Yes, get nice and strong. Um, nearly fifty two thousand Americans have already filed complaints this year with the Federal Trade Commission over fraud related to covid nineteen. So, let's, let's get into what these frauds are. Um, so one of the big popular things that's going around is people sending text messages, which guys, I've told you, the government ain't gonna text you. You ain't gonna get a you up from Uncle Sam.
8:40 Speaker 05 Oh, is it like one of those, uh, oh, wait, people are getting scammed through like, like click this link in the text type of, type of deal?
8:49 Laci Mosley? Yeah, so basically there's a robot, robot tech scam that sends out a text that's from the Eternal Revenue Service purportedly, and they ask for confirmation information for a stimulus payment through a link. So if you click on it, the link takes you to a realistic IRS webpage where you're prompted to provide your name, contact information, and social security number. Once you've entered your personal information, you're then redirected to the real IRS website to make the scam look less suspicious.
9:19 Speaker 05 Oh, wow, that's crazy.
9:24 Laci Mosley? And I know, still, right? I know stimulus checks are going out. I know a lot of you guys are probably on unemployment or will continue to be on unemployment well throughout this, um, period of time. So like, if you get a text message from the government, it's not real.
9:41 Speaker 05 What do they call it again? One more time?
9:43 Laci Mosley? The, the government?
9:45 Speaker 05 Okay.
9:48 Speaker 05 Let me tell you something. If the government calling you, yeah, it's a scam.
9:54 Laci Mosley? Do you remember that, uh, Nelly video with Kelly Rowland where she was texting in the Excel spreadsheet?
10:03 Laci Mosley? That's who's texting y'all. That's who's texting y'all. It's Kelly Rowland in the express, like, Excel spreadsheet. Don't do it.
10:12 Laci Mosley? The government does not text you. They don't. They're not like, hey, did you pay your taxes, this Uncle Sam?
10:20 Speaker 05 This your Uncle Sam. This your uncle. Pick up the phone. This your uncle.
10:23 Laci Mosley? Right. You thought it was Uncle Sam, but it was your Uncle Sam. So guys, please, I'm begging you. If you get a text from the government, ignore it. Report it. Keep yourself safe. Another way that they're doing it is robocalls. Robocalls are a huge area for scammers right now. One of the most common ones that's popping up is for fake refunds related to coronavirus. The key to this scheme is that scammers never mention what the refund is exactly for. With many companies from car insurance providers to utilities offering refunds and discounts right now, it's easy for customers to assume something like that. Um, which I'm getting a refund from Allstate every month. They're refunding half of my insurance. And my premium is high because they know a bitch can't drive.
11:06 Speaker 05 Wow. So why you wait, why are you getting refunds again?
11:09 Laci Mosley? Because no one's really driving right now. So insurance companies. Yeah, you know what, Lamorne? That's just telling me that you've gotten too rich because now you don't even know how much you paying in insurance this month, do you?
11:23 Speaker 05 No, I, well, I don't have much I'm, I, well, I don't, I don't like go into my account with like.
11:27 Laci Mosley? Do you know this month?
11:28 Speaker 05 Like, and I'll go, you know, I don't like put, pull the money out. I don't go to the bank every month and go, I have to pay my insurance. Can you hand me just enough cash from said account so I can then walk to the insurance company and then stick it in the slot and then wait and see. No, fool. I, it's a, you know, automatic pay or stuff like, you know, I have a business manager.
11:49 Laci Mosley? Look, you don't have to be rich to be on direct deposit. I'm just saying a lot of us don't know. I didn't know. I went to the AT&T store and got a new phone and they were like, oh, how's your service? Like your, you know, service for my apartment. Uh, like the cable and wifi. And I was like, oh, I don't know. It seems pretty bad. And they were like, how much do you pay? And I was like, mm.
12:13 Laci Mosley? I have no idea how money.
12:14 Speaker 05 How much you paying?
12:17 Laci Mosley? Right. That's the question. That's the real black people question right there. How much you paying? Because I should be paying what you paying.
12:22 Speaker 05 Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, no, I definitely don't. I know, I know what my insurance is. I know what, I know how much, but I didn't know.
12:30 Laci Mosley? You know the brand?
12:30 Speaker 05 Because of, I didn't know that we were getting, uh. Who get discounts cuz you can't go nowhere cuz what happens if you just decide I do need to go to the grocery store and bam you hit somebody. Like like.
12:44 Laci Mosley? Yeah, but insurance is crowdfund. All insurance is is go fund me for accidents and also just a scam for rich people. So all we do is pay to hope that we're not in an accident. So everybody's paying unless people are driving. So it makes sense. But of course, like, I feel like if I asked Lamar and like who his insurance provider would be, he'd be like, the black man from TV.
13:07 Speaker 05 You know, the guy with the deep voice, real sexual like, I think my mom.
13:10 Laci Mosley? The president of twenty four.
13:15 Speaker 05 No, I know who my insurance companies are for. I have a few.
13:18 Laci Mosley? All right, my insurance company, the the nigga in the red polo and the khakis. Jake, I think his name is Jake.
13:26 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, Jake, light skinned dude, real nice eyes.
13:30 Laci Mosley? Oh, so you've been seeing Jake.
13:32 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's my guy.
13:34 Laci Mosley? So to wrap this up, the robocall will call you and be like, we can't provide this service due to covid nineteen. You've been charged three hundred ninety nine dollars. This is what the FTC said is like the common amount that they're saying. Press one to claim a refund. And then when you press one to claim a refund, they'll ask you for your credit card information or banking information so that they can deposit said refund. I'm doing air quotations. Uh, they're stealing your money. So guys, if you get a phone call, like also they gave me my money back and I was like, oh. It wasn't, they didn't call me and were like, hey sis, we're trying to run you coins. They were like, we put some shit back bitch. We don't want to talk about it.
14:13 Speaker 05 Either either way, either phrasing sounds like a scam.
14:18 Laci Mosley? Insurance is a scam.
14:21 Speaker 05 Wait, so so you called them?
14:24 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you they don't, they shouldn't call you.
14:27 Speaker 05 First of all, I don't know who falls for this stuff.
14:30 Laci Mosley? A lot of people, elderly people, people who are desperate, we talk about that on our show all the time, the Despo meter. If you're really like, you have to constantly evaluate how desperate you are for something before you do that thing. Uh, which works in many aspects of life. So like, if you about to go on a Tinder date or a Bumble date, and you know it's quarantine and it's been a minute since you got some, maybe think about, think about your desperation. Before you go on the date.
14:59 Speaker 05 Uh, you, you don't, you don't wanna be out here dipping into the wrong pool.
15:03 Laci Mosley? Right. And that goes for financial stuff too. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Give it a quick Google, that'll save you some time and some money. But, you know, people not just calling you, giving you money. And the government is not gonna text you, girl. Uh, this actually happened to me. I had a census survey, which was supposed to be the twenty twenty census. This happened two weeks ago. This woman called me and just started asking me an onslaught of questions. And I thought it was the real census, cuz I was like, oh, well, this is great. I don't have to go online. Maybe they just moved it, you know? Cuz they come to your door. So I was like, maybe they're just calling niggas now. And
15:36 Speaker 05 Man.
15:36 Laci Mosley? I talked to her and she was going through this laundry list of stuff. Do you have precondi- like, pre-existing conditions? And I was like, no, I don't. I was like, I'm healthy. The only thing I have is asthma. And they were like, okay, how about diabetes? And I was like, okay, now you're asking too many questions. Like, I felt like she was trying to-
15:51 Speaker 05 Do you have a brother in jail? What?
15:54 Speaker 05 What are you, what are you saying to me?
15:56 Laci Mosley? What's your favorite number? And the first pet you ever had? What high school did you go to?
16:03 Speaker 05 I think it's the color green. Is it the color green? I don't know. Look, maybe-
16:07 Laci Mosley? They were definitely trying to ask me security questions. And then when I hung up, cuz I was like, this ain't right. She started texting me, talking about she was from the Census Bureau. Then I said, no, you're not. Then she said, actually, I'm not. I'm from another bureau. I was like, girl? She called me two more times before finally she gave up. I was like, I'm not gonna give you my information. Go away.
16:27 Speaker 05 Then she just called you to hang out. She's like, what you doing?
16:31 Laci Mosley? You know, we all in the house, girl. What you watching? What's on Netflix?
16:36 Speaker 05 You wanna do a, you wanna do a Zoom get together?
16:40 Laci Mosley? I started doing a Zoom get together with my scammer.
16:43 Speaker 05 Yeah.
16:44 Laci Mosley? I just hang out with him now.
16:46 Speaker 05 Have you had any actual scammers come on your show?
16:49 Laci Mosley? Not yet, but I did. What's crazy, you asked that, I did just get an email from a scammer of the week that I talked about called Chad Focus, who's a rapper who stole a hundred and, I think he stole 1.2 million dollars from the job he was working at in credit card fraud, so that he could buy billboards and fake streams for his rap album.
17:10 Speaker 05 Whoa.
17:12 Laci Mosley? Yeah, and then we played his raps and they were good. They were good raps.
17:18 Speaker 05 Really?
17:20 Laci Mosley? And guys, Chad Focus emailed me and was like, I love the show. Tell people to stream Chad Focus.
17:28 Speaker 05 Also, drive down Melrose, I got a billboard.
17:35 Speaker 05 Yo, that is crazy. He's so he scammed his, and he told, wait, so he got caught?
17:40 Laci Mosley? Yeah, he got caught and he served a little jail time, but he emailed me and said he was free. He said he was free. Wait, let me see. If I'm getting emails from jail, y'all, I'm quitting the podcast. Just kidding, I love emails from jail. All I want to be is someone's prison wife.
17:57 Speaker 05 It was like, subject line, a picture of his dick.
18:02 Speaker 05 In the subject line, I'm in jail. This is okay, right?
18:07 Laci Mosley? So he says.
18:08 Speaker 05 It's not harassment if I'm already in jail.
18:11 Laci Mosley? Right, y'all can't lock me up again. Double jeopardy. That's not how it works. That's not how it works.
18:17 Speaker 05 I watch Jeopardy. That's how it works.
18:20 Laci Mosley? The subject of Chad's email is very funny, smiley face. And he says, Diva Lacy, salute to you and your brand. Love your last episode, lol. Very cute. You gotta promote my billboard charting hit, Dance With Me. And the dance, he said, I need all the Dance With Me royalties I can get. P.S. I'm just out home chilling at my mansion. Would love to be a guest on your show one day. Keep grinding.
18:47 Speaker 05 He's chilling at his mansion?
18:50 Laci Mosley? He's chilling at his mansion.
18:53 Speaker 05 Wait a minute. What? Wait. So he kept that money?
18:59 Speaker 05 He said, I'll do the jail time and I ain't gonna tell you why I buried the money.
19:04 Laci Mosley? Chad said, don't focus on that money. Don't focus on that.
19:08 Speaker 05 A king in his mansion.
19:11 Laci Mosley? Oh, God bless him. All right, guys. On that note, we're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements. Scam!
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21:19 Speaker 05 Alright, everybody, go get that new Chad Focus. Get that new Chad Focus!
21:28 Laci Mosley? We're back. Uh, the last advertisement for Chad Focus came from Lamorne Morris. But we'll take it. We'll take it. We love Chad on this show.
21:37 Speaker 05 You want a picture of my dick? It's okay, cuz I'm already locked up.
21:44 Laci Mosley? Lamorne, he's free chillin' in his mansion.
21:47 Speaker 05 Sitting out dick pics left and right, worldwide!
21:51 Laci Mosley? Stop making fun of my boyfriend. I'm finna be Chad Focus's girlfriend.
21:55 Speaker 05 Oh, y'all engaged. Oh, my bad.
21:58 Laci Mosley? That's why I don't have to be a prison wife now cuz he free.
22:04 Laci Mosley? So guys, it's time for my favorite segment of the podcast, Historic Hood Wink.
22:09 Speaker 05 You could, I have a question. I apologize. So they have mob wives, they have basketball wives, housewives. Do they have prison wives?
22:19 Laci Mosley? No, I don't think so, but they should. I think there's like a prison pen pal or love after lockup. Love after lockup. That's where the prison wives is at.
22:27 Speaker 05 Okay, cuz I want, I need to see a show, a real show called Prison Wives. So I gotta go. I gotta start developing right now. I can't finish the podcast cuz this is my billion dollar opportunity. Bye.
22:36 Laci Mosley? It truly probably is. I want, I want a scripted show. It's gonna, like, you only need like three locations.
22:45 Speaker 05 Prison? Living room.
22:52 Laci Mosley? Low budget. You can produce it for six mil.
22:58 Speaker 05 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt.
23:01 Laci Mosley? Negro, you ain't sorry. You're not sorry at all. Uh, guys, we're back. Lamorne is just gonna take over my podcast, um, and we're, and take over all the intros. No, he's not sorry, but I love it. Um, I met Lamorne, I've only met Lamorne one time in person. We did a show at UCB.
23:25 Laci Mosley? And that's when I met you.
23:27 Speaker 05 Yes, and you by far are one of the funniest people I have ever met in my entire life.
23:34 Laci Mosley? Oh, you're sweet.
23:35 Speaker 05 I know, I know how hard, I mean, I know how hard improv is, you know. Obviously, for you, it's it's really easy. Um, and I came up doing improv in Second City and in Chicago and I just, like, I, I, how effortless you guys made it look and how, and you're, I mean, even when you're initiating, whether you're responding, whether you, I was like, God damn, she's good. So, congrats to you, man.
24:00 Laci Mosley? I would love to let Lamorne keep complimenting me because it's fun. But I know you guys came here for other reasons, so we'll get back to the show, but thank you. I didn't know you did Second City. You're super funny. I never knew you did Second City. That's freaking dope.
24:15 Speaker 05 Yeah, yeah, yes.
24:17 Laci Mosley? Look at, look at Lamorne being a little improv nerd. Yes.
24:21 Speaker 05 A little dork, me, Sam Richardson.
24:25 Laci Mosley? So, it's time for my favorite segment of the podcast, Historic Hoodwinkings, and this is where I'm going to regale Lamorne with a very famous caper, and we're just gonna get his thoughts and opinions all throughout, and maybe he'll ask questions, and maybe I'll have answers, or maybe I won't. Again, I'm not a journalist. Thank you. This podcast is a scam of me not being a journalist. So, today, we're talking about Frank Ab- Buggnail? Abnail?
24:57 Speaker 05 Abnigale.
24:58 Laci Mosley? Abnigale. Wow, you knew that and I didn't. Frank Abnigale. Uh, he's a talented scam artist. Mm-hmm, talented scam artist. When he was sixteen, he posed as an airline pilot to get free flights. Oh, cuz this is the plot of Catch Me If You Can.
25:15 Speaker 05 Yeah, that's the only reason why I know about it.
25:19 Laci Mosley? I swear to you guys, every episode of our show is either been a movie or is being made into a movie or a Netflix show, like every episode, the scammers are just so.
25:30 Speaker 05 You gotta get into one now.
25:32 Laci Mosley? Hmm, I'm trying to, I wanted to play um Anna Delvey from our first episode, she's the one who was the heiress scammer in New York City, who had people donating to a fake club that she was building. Shonda Rhimes bought the rights to that story.
25:47 Speaker 05 Really?
25:48 Laci Mosley? She's my favorite person, she is a white woman, so technically I am not white, however, white women have played not white women all throughout history, can't I just?
25:55 Speaker 05 Right, you should play a white woman, but they change it, it's changing up a little bit. Call it uh artistic license.
26:03 Laci Mosley? Right, I think it should be me.
26:06 Speaker 05 I think so too.
26:08 Laci Mosley? So Frank, what, how do you say his name?
26:11 Speaker 05 Abnegale.
26:12 Laci Mosley? Abnegale, thank you. Frank Abnegale was a talented scam artist in many different ways, he was, when he was sixteen, he posed as an airline pilot to get free flights, and also pretended to be a doctor and a lawyer. He forged checks, defrauded banks, and a handful of other things, before eventually pulling a one eighty and becoming a snitch, uh AKA an FBI consultant. He was eventually hired by the FBI as a consultant, and then started his own agency, educating corporations, financial institutions, and government organizations on how to detect and handle fraudulence. A portion of his life was subject to the film Catch Me If You Can, starring Leonardo DiCaprio, like we just said.
26:50 Laci Mosley? Um, I love that he robbed people, and then was like, hey y'all, hire me, so that I don't rob you no more.
27:03 Speaker 05 Uh, the privilege.
27:07 Laci Mosley? Right, why can't black people do this? Why can't the liquor stores that people run into be like, look, hire me, and all your Hennessy will be safe?
27:17 Speaker 05 I'm gonna stop robbing you niggas, just go ahead, put your boy on the payroll one time.
27:22 Laci Mosley? Right, I mean the mob did that, the mob used to be like, hey, if you don't want us to ruin your life, hire us. So, you know, I wish.
27:33 Laci Mosley? I wish more people could do it. So Frank? Frank what? I can't remember it. Abigail, mm, thank you. Frank Abigail Junior was born April twenty seventh nineteen forty eight in Bronxville, New York. See, you from the Bronx. Or is this Bronxville? So that's not the Bronx, right? Is it Bronx Bronxville?
27:53 Speaker 05 Unless unless this Bronx was short. I had no, ooh, that's a fun fact if that's true. We got this.
27:58 Laci Mosley? Wait a minute.
28:00 Speaker 05 Google opened up.
28:01 Laci Mosley? Have I?
28:02 Speaker 05 Google opened up.
28:03 Laci Mosley? I'm gonna feel hella dumb if Bronx is short for Bronxville.
28:09 Speaker 05 Yo, if it is, don't tell nobody you didn't know that.
28:15 Laci Mosley? No, it's called the Bronx. Nah, it's called the Bronx.
28:21 Laci Mosley? Yeah, it's called the Bronx. Okay, we're fine, we're fine. I lived in New York for a few years before I left because I hated it. So.
28:28 Speaker 05 Me too.
28:30 Laci Mosley? It's a good shout out to New Yorkers cuz y'all got grit, my guy. Uh, it's hard enough being a black every day. You gotta go outside and fight fifty eleven people on the street and fight fifty eleven people on the train and you gotta go to work. Like, that ain't you ain't got to work yet.
28:45 Speaker 05 Yeah, my god. That is, yeah.
28:47 Laci Mosley? And the weather.
28:48 Speaker 05 Every day is a headache. Every day is a headache in New York. Every everybody going somewhere.
28:52 Laci Mosley? I became very aggro. When I lived in New York, I became super aggro. I once back kicked a guy down some subway stairs.
28:59 Speaker 05 I'm sorry, what?
29:01 Laci Mosley? I back a donkey kicked a man down some subway steps.
29:04 Speaker 05 What did he do to you?
29:07 Laci Mosley? There, so there's a rule in New York where if this is an unspoken rule, and now my New York accent gonna come out, there's an unspoken rule. If there's a train on a platform, then you move cuz people gotta go. So if you coming up the stairs and you already got off the train, there's train on the platform, you move. There's no train on the platform. I'm coming up the stairs off the train. This white man barrels into me. It's my room. It's my room. He barrels into me and we're chest to chest and I look at him and I say, really? And he says, yeah, really? And then when he stepped behind me, I donkey kicked him down the steps. And then I ran.
29:41 Speaker 05 R I P that guy. What if he found out later that he died?
29:44 Laci Mosley? He ain't die.
29:45 Speaker 05 How you know?
29:47 Laci Mosley? He ain't die. If he died, I would be arrested.
29:52 Speaker 05 What if you go to New York and you see like R I P t-shirts, like the airbrushed denim jackets with his face on it?
29:58 Laci Mosley? Nobody's airbrushing that white man.
30:00 Speaker 05 He's like, ah.
30:03 Laci Mosley? Don't put that thought in my head. Nobody's airbrushing that white man.
30:07 Speaker 05 You gotta go to sleep with that on your, with that on your chest.
30:11 Laci Mosley? Thank you. So Broad School, New York. According to the memoir, Abigail, did I say it right?
30:17 Speaker 05 Uh, just call him Jack.
30:19 Laci Mosley? Okay, you know what? I'm just gonna call him Frank. Frank stated that he had a stable childhood and was especially close to his father, who traveled offlin- often and became deeply involved in Republican local politics. Right? So, anyway, when his mother decided to leave Frank senior due to her husband's absences, their family was turned upside down. As his mother worked towards independence, Frank junior decided to live with his father after the divorce and often tagged along on the business dealings. So I imagine like Frank junior's probably in some hotels, um, and they're like, little Frankie, make us up some cocktails.
30:54 Laci Mosley? You know, you know how rich white people were doing in the fifties. They'd be like, and put two olives in it for daddy and your auntie. What's your name? Tina.
31:04 Speaker 05 And they come over here and give Auntie a kiss on the mouth, open mouth. What?
31:10 Laci Mosley? Problem, that's it. Those times were crazy. I can't, no, no, no, not you. I'm saying the times. Like that was happy. It's crazy.
31:19 Speaker 05 I was there. I lived through those times.
31:21 Laci Mosley? I don't think you, Lomar, you're not that old.
31:24 Speaker 05 I'm very old. I'm very old. Take a guess. Take a guess.
31:27 Laci Mosley? I know how old you are.
31:28 Speaker 05 No, you think you know, but you have no idea.
31:31 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I was just gonna say something.
31:32 Speaker 05 You only know what I think, you, you only know what I want you to know.
31:36 Laci Mosley? Oh, okay.
31:38 Speaker 05 Well, save this for this podcast to reveal my true age.
31:42 Laci Mosley? So as a teenager Frank got caught up in petty crimes including shoplifting. He soon grew tired of these practices and decided to move on into more sophisticated forms of burglary. Okay, you gotta work your way up. It was like shoplifting, elementary school, burglary, high.
32:00 Speaker 05 Pickpocketing, yeah, stuff like that.
32:04 Laci Mosley? So he Frank convinced a gas station attendants to give him a portion of his sale back in cash and allowed him to portion a pocket of the proceeds. So gas cards are a thing of the past. Um, I don't know nothing about no gas card.
32:20 Speaker 05 I do.
32:21 Laci Mosley? Yeah, I don't believe you.
32:23 Speaker 05 I'm very familiar. I still have some of them from the old days.
32:27 Laci Mosley? I truly do not believe you. You don't even know who your insurance provider is.
32:33 Speaker 05 It's it's it's a in insurance.
32:37 Laci Mosley? Insurance dot com.
32:40 Speaker 05 That website.
32:41 Laci Mosley? You know that website. You know the guys.
32:48 Laci Mosley? This is like a small scam and I like this scam because I like that. He was like, look, I'm gonna get a cut. You gonna get a cut like the gas station attendant ain't making bank.
32:57 Speaker 05 I'm still just, I'm just, I'm just dying at the fact that you're like, I like this scam. Man, this is saying a lot about who you are as a person.
33:07 Laci Mosley? Listen, America's a scam. The economy is a scam. Capitalism is a scam. And certainly, gas stations are one of the biggest scams because let's talk about oil, big scam. So if you can get a couple of coins off the gas station, get it. You earned it. They robbed you, you robbed them back.
33:30 Speaker 05 Or you can just drive electric.
33:33 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you know, these times they had a gas card, so I'm guessing they didn't have electric cars.
33:39 Speaker 05 They had it. We won't go there. On our next episode of Conspiracy Theories.
33:47 Speaker 05 Look up the name Mark Sampson, Mark Sampson, you'll find something. Look up Mark Sampson, it'll tell you. Sounds like a paranoid guy.
33:58 Laci Mosley? Suddenly the morn has foil on his head. I don't know.
34:07 Laci Mosley? So this scam fell apart when his father got the credit card bill, which added up to thousands of dollars, which duh, you can't just steal money, like he's gonna get a bill. So dismayed over his son's delinquency, Frank's mother sent him to a school for wayward boys. Don't send a scammer to a school for wayward boys. He could do nothing but learn how to get better there.
34:32 Speaker 05 Yeah, and fuck.
34:34 Laci Mosley? Right. That's like when people try to send children to conversion camps. Ain't everybody there gonna be gay? Like, what, what is I doing? Stop. We gay is okay. I'd be like, I wish, I wish somebody would send me to a conversion camp. I'd be like, all these girls, fantastic.
34:55 Laci Mosley? And they're all here for the same reason. I'm down. Like, I'm into it. Like, what?
35:02 Speaker 05 Mom, can I go back to conversion camp again?
35:05 Laci Mosley? I need to be conversion somewhere. Um, but hon- honestly, in all honesty, those camps are horrible, but they're fucking, I just don't even understand why people would make camps like that. Also camps for wayward boys. What are y'all doing? Is that military camp? The only thing I've ever heard for wayward children was military school, which is also trash, because we're just trying to indoctrinate them into going into the army. Boo boo. A scam.
35:29 Speaker 05 A scam.
35:34 Laci Mosley? So caught between his parents' tensions, Frank reportedly left home at sixteen years old. So he just said, I'm out. You know what? I'll just be an adult. And at that time, you can be an adult at sixteen. He had a little in his bank account, no education, and had altered his driver's license to make himself ten years older than he was and exaggerated his education, which like, who's, who gonna check you, boo?
35:56 Laci Mosley? He got better paying jobs. He decided to quit working and wrote bad checks for himself.
36:03 Laci Mosley? So he was getting better paying jobs, but he was like, this is barely making the ends meet. So he decided to quit working and just start writing bad checks.
36:15 Speaker 05 So, I said, okay, well, all right, cool.
36:19 Laci Mosley? Before long, Frank had written hundreds of bad checks and overdrawn his account by thousands of dollars. Knowing that he would eventually be caught, he went into hiding. Frank realized that he could cash more bad checks if he dazzled bank tellers with new and more impressive personality. He decided pilots were highly respected professionals, so he schemed his way to getting a pilot's uniform. Frank called Pan American Airlines headquarters and told them that he had lost his uniform while traveling. And they told him where to pick up a new one and he charged it to the company using a fake ID.
36:57 Speaker 05 Wow, this guy.
37:00 Laci Mosley? Obviously Pan Am is no more, but he was just like, hey, hey, Pan Am. Hey, yeah, your boy lost his uniform. Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I realize when I'm flying around, I have to wear the uniform to fly, but somehow in transit, I had lost it.
37:18 Speaker 05 So I remember I took it off mid-flight, then when I got off, I couldn't find said uniform. Maybe if you guys want to go up there and check, yeah, but I just really need to get a new one. I got a, I got a route to Costa Rica.
37:29 Laci Mosley? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, flights, routes, air.
37:32 Speaker 05 Planes.
37:36 Laci Mosley? Turbulence, turbulence.
37:42 Laci Mosley? You know, you know what I'm talking about, like, and then immediately gets a new, that's crazy. But back in that day, like, they didn't check shit, like, they had no way to. It was just all trust and most people didn't have the audacity to lie about random shit like needing a pilot's uniform, so it worked. His ruse earned him valuable information about how to impersonate a pilot, which he did allegedly into like, so he would do this impersonation so he could get free flights. He would just get on the flight like, yeah, I'm just like, you're just going to the airport. You're just checking to see what time flights leave and you just go to the airport.
38:17 Speaker 05 Yo, have you seen the movie?
38:20 Laci Mosley? Not in a long time.
38:22 Speaker 05 No, uh, yeah. What you're telling me is obviously a lot more information the movie gives. But like, it's, it's, it's crazy. It's crazy. This type of stuff that he, that he got away with. Keep reading. I think you'll, obviously you, you, the movie only touches on some things, but I just, as you're talking, I'm like imagining the film and I'm like, wait a minute, yeah, that's, yeah.
38:43 Laci Mosley? Right, that those things happened. And now I wish I had seen the movie before I did this. Um, I don't remember the movie, but I do remember seeing Leonardo DiCaprio in it. Uh, in a positive.
38:54 Speaker 05 Trailer, maybe it's on a trailer, trailer.
38:56 Laci Mosley? I, I think I, I was pretty young when it came out. Um, and you with your undisclosed age, I'll never know.
39:03 Speaker 05 I was seventy-four when that movie came out.
39:06 Laci Mosley? So expenses such as food or lodging, he would bill to the airline company. However, he didn't fly on Pan Am planes out of fear that he could potentially be identified by real Pan Am employees or like pilots. So he, he's so smart. He was like, I'm gonna get a Pan Am uniform, but I'm not gonna go on Pan Am because them niggas gonna be like, who?
39:27 Speaker 05 Yeah.
39:28 Laci Mosley? We ain't seen you at the last cookout. We.
39:31 Speaker 05 Yeah.
39:35 Laci Mosley? We haven't seen you on no videos. We.
39:39 Speaker 05 No functions, no sexual harassment functions, nothing.
39:42 Laci Mosley? We just saw the video, like Pan Am shoots a video, like Virgin Airlines, you know, they have that. We're ready to fly, like.
39:50 Laci Mosley? Everybody from Virgin is in that video, including so many actors.
39:55 Speaker 05 Oh, my gosh. One, one hundred percent. And you know what? Whenever I get on those flights and I see, uh, like these, like if you go on British Airways, they have like all these like dope British actors doing this bit, like everybody, if you name it, they're all in this video. In Virgin, they have all these fun like actors dancing around and performers. And I always get on these flights and I go, ain't nobody called me to do this shit.
40:20 Laci Mosley? You're jealous he didn't get the booking? I won't lie. I saw the little boy from Blackish and I was like, wait a minute.
40:29 Laci Mosley? Like I could have been in this. You're ready to fly. We gonna get all up in the sky, Virgin American nose.
40:38 Speaker 05 By the time you leave this airline, you won't be a virgin no more.
40:43 Laci Mosley? Right, we would have been great, Virgin. We would have been great. I know y'all got bought by Alaska Airlines and that's about to be poop, but you know, you missed out. We could have been dancing in your videos. So, once Pan Am police began catching on to Frank's lies, he decided to change his identity again and become an out of town doctor in Georgia.
41:05 Laci Mosley? What is an out of town doctor?
41:07 Speaker 05 That's right.
41:08 Laci Mosley? So for eleven months Frank impersonated a chief resident pediatrician at a Georgia hospital under the alias Frank Williams. I like that alias because it's like, you don't want to give yourself a fake first name because then when people call you by your name, you're like, who?
41:25 Speaker 05 Who's Brooks? Oh, yeah, me, I'm Brooks.
41:27 Laci Mosley? Yeah, yeah, yeah, never mind, I'm Brooks. Uh, what was I saying? Me, Brooks? That's why I am right today?
41:32 Speaker 05 Yeah.
41:33 Laci Mosley? Like, it's good to keep the first name the same and the last name, switch it up. So when filing out, when filling out a rental application, he impulsively listed his occupation as doctor. After befriending a real doctor who lived in the same apartment complex, he agreed to act as a supervisor resident of interns as a favor until the local hospital could find someone else to take the job. So he's met somebody who was a doctor.
41:59 Laci Mosley? He was like, can I borrow a cup of sugar? Oh, hey, you got on a white coat. Are you a doctor? Because I am too as well. In addition to you, also a doctor, who went to doctor school for doctoring.
42:13 Speaker 05 See, here's what happened. I lost my coat on a flight. Uh, do you have an extra doctor's coat lying around?
42:22 Laci Mosley? That's how he got his doctor's coat.
42:24 Speaker 05 I lost my coat in a surgery. It might still be inside the patient. Uh, we sewed him up. I need a new coat, yeah.
42:34 Laci Mosley? Sadly, they do believe in stuff and people rags and shit, so.
42:37 Speaker 05 I know.
42:38 Laci Mosley? Not unlikely.
42:41 Laci Mosley? But also, this is just such a brilliant white life that I wish that I could be a part of. To like be white and and talk to your next door neighbor and them get you a doctor job.
42:58 Laci Mosley? You're white, you're charismatic.
42:59 Speaker 05 Alright, cool. It'll be fun.
43:05 Speaker 05 Sew stuff up, add some Tylenol, you're fine.
43:08 Laci Mosley? Yeah, no, it's it's it's honestly, it's autopilot, you go in.
43:17 Laci Mosley? So, the position was not demanding for Frank as seven interns were eager to experience, get experience under his position. Imagine that you're the, I wanna know who these interns are, cuz I I don't want a doctor who studied under Frank. He didn't teach them shit.
43:31 Speaker 05 Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh, a lot of, I wonder how many people he was, because of this, his tenure. This however short-lived stint this was, I wonder how many people died in a direct result of him being in that hospital.
43:49 Laci Mosley? We've got a guy with a swollen abdomen, what should we do, Frank? He's like.
44:01 Speaker 05 Cut off his toe.
44:03 Laci Mosley? The blood drainage will drain the app, trust me.
44:10 Laci Mosley? I hate to know what they learned. He was able to fake his way through most of his duties by letting his interns show off their handling of the cases coming in during his late night shift. So, basically, people would come in and he'd be like, what do you think we should do? And act like he was house.
44:28 Speaker 05 Yeah. Had a limp and a cane.
44:33 Laci Mosley? Well, you're not supposed to let them practice all people, you're supposed to help them, that's what interning's for, so they see you do it. He was like, what you want in school? Do that. I mean, that's more responsible than what we said he was doing.
44:46 Speaker 05 He's like, listen, I'm not gonna be there for you, holding your hand, so you make the call.
44:52 Laci Mosley? Yo, I feel like he said those exact words. Honestly, you just inspired me. I feel like I could do surgery now.
44:59 Speaker 05 See, now you're gonna, listen, you are a true crook. Like a true movie villain. You are.
45:06 Laci Mosley? I'm like, Suture?
45:09 Speaker 05 Yeah, I feel like, I feel like when you leave your apartment, there's a getaway car outside, like, it's a regular car, but you speed off as if you just got away with something. This is just the way you live.
45:19 Laci Mosley? I do drive like I'm playing the scene of a crime. That's my favorite way to drive.
45:24 Speaker 05 Drive like Halle Berry or Brandy?
45:28 Laci Mosley? Oh, no. My favorite trope about Halle Berry is that she's always losing her kids in movies.
45:35 Speaker 05 Oh, no.
45:38 Laci Mosley? Like, we got a movie about a missing kid, call Halle.
45:43 Laci Mosley? She's lost all the kids.
45:47 Speaker 05 Losing Isaiah, no, you took it back, man. The Monsters Ball.
45:52 Laci Mosley? Like, you're getting typecast for losing kids.
45:55 Speaker 05 Yeah, oh my gosh, so she had that nine one one movie, right? She had that Losing Isaiah, she had Monsters Ball.
46:03 Laci Mosley? Yeah, and I'm currently writing Where My Baby Go for her, so. Hoping that she likes it.
46:11 Laci Mosley? Where My Baby Go with starring Halle Berry. I think it's gonna be a hit.
46:18 Speaker 05 Halle Berry, Bokeem Woodbine.
46:20 Laci Mosley? It's like not even her real life, it's just her acting character that has niched her like this.
46:26 Laci Mosley? Truly.
46:28 Laci Mosley? So, he left the hospital after he realized that he could put lives at risk by his inability to respond to life and death situations.
46:38 Laci Mosley? And this was a catalyst, like, the catalyst for him leaving the hospital was because he was nearly exposed when an infant became critically unwell from oxygen deprivation, and he initially didn't understand the meaning or gravity of the situation when the nurse informed him of a blue baby.
46:55 Laci Mosley? He was like, blue baby. He was like, oh, okay, we got white ones, brown ones, ye- yellow ones.
47:05 Laci Mosley? Buzz down, baby Anna. And they're like, no, the baby's dying.
47:13 Laci Mosley? But I love that he was like, you know what, never mind.
47:18 Speaker 05 He's like, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna get up out of here, y'all. That's my time, y'all.
47:23 Speaker 05 I'm Frank Williams, that's my time, y'all, y'all been good.
47:27 Laci Mosley? The hospital's been great, interns, y'all been great.
47:31 Speaker 05 Shout out to Blueface Baby.
47:35 Laci Mosley? No. So he left after that, he said, okay, too much, we're leaving. So over the next two years, he bounced around from job to job. Eventually Frank's past caught up with him when he settled down in Mont Pierre, France. Which is crazy, cause that's France, like, isn't that where like Roman Polanski went? I thought criminals went to France and they were Gucci, I don't know. So he decided to live a straight life for a while after having repe- reputedly cashed two point five million dollars in bad checks over the years. When a former girlfriend recognized his face on a wanted poster, she turned him into authorities.
48:10 Speaker 05 Oh, just like an ex-girlfriend.
48:12 Laci Mosley? See what happens when you don't treat women right?
48:17 Speaker 05 Oh my gosh, why would she do that to him?
48:20 Laci Mosley? She did the right thing. Look, you gotta respect women. I'm sure he was shady to her. He's like charismatic, you know he a hoe. Every time I hear charismatic, I hear like philanderer.
48:31 Speaker 05 No, I'm charismatic sometimes.
48:35 Speaker 05 Well, yeah, well, to be fair, it's when I'm about to cheat, but, you know.
48:41 Laci Mosley? To be fair, it is when I am about to cheat, but.
48:44 Speaker 05 But they don't know that. Judge me.
48:47 Laci Mosley? So, yes, like, I I think that he probably did this woman dirty. He probably took some money out her purse.
48:55 Speaker 05 Out her purse? No, he, no, he was, he was, he was classier than, no, he was, he was.
48:58 Laci Mosley? Nah, Frank feels like the kinda guy where you wake up from y'all's wild night, you gotta check your wallet.
49:07 Speaker 05 No, yeah, you're right. He'll took, he'll take twenty dollars, he'll go get lunch. He'll come back, forget the change. Lunch only costs two dollars cuz he scammed them out the lunch and kept them.
49:17 Laci Mosley? Right. Exactly. Like, that's the kinda guy we're dealing with. So, hey, you gotta treat women right. So unfortunately, his girlfriend recognized him and she snitched. I'm not mad. So, this is how he got caught.
49:31 Laci Mosley? He served time in France. Wow. In harsh confines of Perpignan, where he became seriously ill. Sweden and the United States also pulled up to get him for his crimes. During which his father died.
49:51 Speaker 05 Tom Hanks was the lead detective, that's right.
49:55 Laci Mosley? So Frank was eventually granted parole after several years from Petersburg, Virginia, prison. He eventually found lecturing as a work and white col- so basically, he found lecturing work as white collar crime specialist. So he's like, you know what, I I'm gonna just make my business my business. And he's like, I'm gonna teach you guys how to be a doctor. Know what a blue baby is. Uh, rob a gas station.
50:24 Speaker 05 Take twenty dollars out of her purse.
50:27 Laci Mosley? But she's trying to rob women you date, better than I did.
50:30 Speaker 05 Y'all got wives, y'all got girlfriends and wives. Oh, you're gonna love this next course.
50:36 Laci Mosley? How to shake down your spouse.
50:42 Laci Mosley? Slide one. Have a spouse. Everyone's done that, great.
50:46 Speaker 05 Slide two. Shake her ass down.
50:50 Speaker 05 Step three, success.
50:52 Laci Mosley? Success. Alright, everyone, and we're clapping, and we're clapping.
50:58 Laci Mosley? So in exchange for his freedom, the government told Frank that he had to educate them about his methods in order to prevent other people from defrauding authorities. Frank worked with the FBI for more than thirty years as one of the world's most foremost experts in document fraud, check swindling, forgery, and embezzlement. He started his own company, Abigail, Abnegale and Associates, which is, which educates others on how to avoid becoming, being fraud victims. And he has a podcast.
51:28 Laci Mosley? Came from ranking. Shout out to the pod universe. The podcast is called The Perfect Scam, y'all. And look, don't, if y'all go listen to it, y'all still gotta listen to me. Don't go over there and don't come back, okay?
51:43 Speaker 05 You gotta bring, you gotta, you gotta be a guest on his show.
51:46 Laci Mosley? I need to get on the perfect scam.
51:47 Speaker 05 On your show.
51:49 Laci Mosley? Guys, we gotta tag Frank, guys, if you're out there. I know you're out there. Tag Frank Abnegale and get me on The Perfect Scam. I love him, or get him on the show. Oh, oh, I just got hot.
52:03 Speaker 05 Okay, alright, you want me to give you some time?
52:06 Laci Mosley? I might need a little time.
52:10 Laci Mosley? My window's also open and my AC's off because we're recording from home, so it might also be that.
52:14 Speaker 05 Oh, sure.
52:17 Laci Mosley? I am very excited. Um, Frank, you're also a perfect scammer because you worked with the FBI for thirty years educating them about fraud. How much you know that it'd take thirty years to tell them? Because I feel like he was probably spoon feeding the FBI information. You had to have been. He was like, I'm not gonna spill all the tea up front. He was like, you can get sips in his lipton over thirty years.
52:42 Speaker 05 Mm-hmm. Because he could've gave him that all, he could've gave him the whole rundown in a day. And then before you know it, his ass back in jail, eh, we don't need you no more. But he was like, ooh, intriguing. This is only a mind, this is only a type of crime that a mind like mine could figure out over the next, I don't know, thirty years.
52:59 Laci Mosley? Thirty years? He's a genius. So he also forged a Harvard University law transcript and passed Louisiana bar exam and got a job at Louisiana, as a Louisiana state attorney. Here's my thing, he passed the bar, so.
53:15 Speaker 05 Yeah.
53:17 Laci Mosley? I mean, he passed the bar.
53:20 Speaker 05 And didn't he, didn't he, uh, he had a pilot, a, a, a pilot's license, so he knew how to actually fly a plane.
53:28 Laci Mosley? That's dope, because if something had happened on the plane and they were like, uh, the pilots, they're incapacitated, can anybody fly the plane? Like, at least he was in a fake uniform with real skills. This man's a genius.
53:39 Speaker 05 Right. Wait, so he, so he actually flew the planes, right? He didn't just hang out on the planes.
53:45 Laci Mosley? No, he hung out on the planes. He did not fly the planes.
53:48 Speaker 05 Oh, my lord, this, I thought he, hmm.
53:50 Laci Mosley? No, cause you know how pilots have to travel to get to their next flight, so they'll just hop on a plane and, you know, be sitting on the plane with the rest of us schmucks. So that's what he did. So, wow. He told a flight attendant that he had briefly dated that he was also a Harvard Law School student. And she introduced him to a lawyer friend. After making a fake transfer from Harvard, he prepared himself for the compulsory exam. So he failed twice, but then the third time he passed. Wow.
54:22 Speaker 05 What he probably did was just memorize the questions and then look up.
54:26 Laci Mosley? Right. You're right. He scammed the test. He was like, oh, now I know what these questions are, and now I know the answers. Wow. So obviously, to wrap this up, Steven Spielberg made a film about this called Catch Me If You Can, if you guys wanna watch it for more details. Um, you know, Leonardo. Wait, Christopher Walken, Christopher Walken got an Oscar nod for the role, um, that he played in it, not Leonardo.
54:53 Speaker 05 Where you going this time? That's not my Christopher Walken impression, but that's what he did in the movie.
54:57 Laci Mosley? Such a good Christopher Walken.
55:01 Speaker 05 I'm one of the greatest Christopher Walken impersonators. I do it on Hollywood Boulevard.
55:07 Laci Mosley? Next to Spider-Man?
55:08 Speaker 05 Hey, yeah. Hey, Spidey, hey, where you going?
55:15 Laci Mosley? It's fantastic.
55:19 Laci Mosley? Guys, all in all, Frank, say his last name, cause I can't, please.
55:24 Speaker 05 Jackson.
55:27 Speaker 05 Abnegale.
55:28 Laci Mosley? That's probably one of his last names. Abnegale. Frank Abnegale, shout out to a king. You know, you came, you saw, you robbed. And I stand. All right, guys, we'll be back after one tiny break of non-scam advertisements.
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57:45 Laci Mosley? Alright guys, and we're back and it's time for the saddest portion of the show, which is where I have to let Lamorne go. It's time for scammer of the week. Um, this is where we just honor one honorary charlatan who's worthy of our praise.
58:00 Speaker 05 Is it me?
58:02 Laci Mosley? You are an honorary charlatan. You are worthy of our praise.
58:08 Laci Mosley? But this week, it's actually a woman, Lamorne. I know you like to interrupt.
58:12 Speaker 05 Of course. Of course. Look at the country we're in.
58:21 Laci Mosley? And she is a queen. Her name is Brittany Bridges, which like the alliteration, the flavor of her name.
58:29 Speaker 05 BB.
58:30 Laci Mosley? So BB. And BB is accused of doing fake dentistry.
58:38 Laci Mosley? And this really struck a chord in my heart because I've been seeing posts on Facebook. I, in which I only keep Facebook to keep up with my problematic as high school friends and relatives. I don't actually use Facebook, but I kept seeing posts on Facebook that were like, I do braces.
59:00 Speaker 05 They said what?
59:02 Laci Mosley? I do braces.
59:06 Speaker 05 Oh my lord. Oh my. Son of a virgin. Dear god.
59:12 Laci Mosley? And I've always been confused. Like, what, what do you mean you do braces? Cause that's, are you an orthodontist? I don't think you could just, you can do braids.
59:24 Speaker 05 You can do hairs, exactly.
59:28 Speaker 05 I do braces. No, you don't.
59:32 Speaker 05 Oh my goodness.
59:34 Laci Mosley? We should not be getting braces at a residential home. We should not. You can't do braces in your living room. So.
59:42 Speaker 05 I do braces.
59:45 Laci Mosley? Brittany's been arrested before, but to date, there are no current charges filed against her about these latest complaints. Dentists at Children's Hospital Uptown and Louisiana State University Dental School are concerned with patients headed to their clinics. They said they've noticed an uptick in patients coming in who sought care from non licensed providers.
1:00:06 Laci Mosley? He said, they said, once you start moving teeth, it gets to the point where you could cause long term disfigurement. And they're worried about public safety. So this is a woman that basically.
1:00:19 Laci Mosley? They're, they're like, we put a red flag out on her, but she's a queen who's not been caught. She's not going to jail. There's no current charges. They said, unfortunately, the state board can't do anything about this because she doesn't have a license. So we are a regulatory agency that can sanction dentists or hygienists. But when it's an unlicensed person performing dentistry, we have no jurisdiction. All we can do is turn it over to law enforcement.
1:00:46 Speaker 05 Wow. Wait, so wait, where is she now?
1:00:49 Laci Mosley? She's still on Instagram. She has the Instagram account called Bossy Smiles.
1:00:56 Speaker 05 Bossy Smiles. Oh my.
1:00:59 Laci Mosley? And they advertise braces, maintenance, veneers, and other type of dental work.
1:01:05 Speaker 05 Yo, certified dental assistant and teeth whitening technician, giving you a smile to match your attitude.
1:01:14 Laci Mosley? You know, she's doing all the IG girls Instagram teeth. She probably like, and also we have a special going on this month, and if you want to get ass shots with your dental instruction.
1:01:27 Speaker 05 And I can make your teeth removable too in case you need to, you know what I'm saying?
1:01:40 Laci Mosley? Where did you get your eyebrows lasered? Oh girl, I went to Bossy Smiles. They did my brows and my teeth in two hours flat, girl.
1:01:51 Speaker 05 I think she do massage too. I'm over here looking at this.
1:01:56 Laci Mosley? No.
1:02:00 Speaker 05 All I see is ass cheeks.
1:02:04 Speaker 05 What are you doing?
1:02:06 Laci Mosley? I need you not to do a profession. You can't do massage.
1:02:11 Speaker 05 Yo, where this fool's shirt at? Like money in here with no shirt on.
1:02:15 Laci Mosley? Bruh. See, I told you they got specials they running. This is crazy. Why he don't got a shirt on? Is he getting his teeth done? I'm confused.
1:02:26 Speaker 05 He getting his teeth whitened with a happy ending.
1:02:33 Speaker 05 Where is this? Oh my god, people. Okay, I'm done.
1:02:37 Laci Mosley? Listen, but the cops haven't got to them yet. I don't want them to.
1:02:43 Laci Mosley? I don't want y'all to go get y'all. If anybody's doing braces, don't get your braces done. That's not what's supposed to happen. Go to an orthodontist. If you can't afford that, there's so many affordable ways to do it. Invisalign like, or you know, they selling Invisalign on Instagram now, like.
1:03:01 Laci Mosley? Guys, we're just.
1:03:03 Speaker 05 I'm dying at this account.
1:03:07 Laci Mosley? Oh god.
1:03:09 Speaker 05 Okay, alright.
1:03:12 Speaker 05 I'm hoping she got her life together and, you know.
1:03:17 Speaker 05 What if, what if the page was Bossy Smiles with a Z? I would, I would shit myself.
1:03:25 Speaker 05 Bossy smiles.
1:03:27 Laci Mosley? Bossy smiles, honey. So, guys. I love you, I want you to scam, but please, please don't start doing braces or anything that you're not qualified to do. We're all qualified to scam. No, you know, I do hearts.
1:03:45 Speaker 05 I do hearts.
1:03:46 Laci Mosley? I do livers. I do kidneys. Y'all don't go to dialysis no more, cuz I do kidneys. So you just come to my house. Get your kidneys dead. I'm doing kidneys. I get your kidneys dead. No, no.
1:04:04 Laci Mosley? But as always, guys, if you want to reach us, [email protected] . Snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure the scam is retired cuz we don't want to fuck up your bag. If you want to find me, D I V A L A C I D, Diva Lacy, on all platforms. And if you want Lamorne, where do you want to be found? And what do you want people to find? That's what we ask.
1:04:25 Speaker 05 Find me on Instagram, at Lamorne, L A M O R N E. The Lamorne After Pill is out right now. Desperados coming soon. Woke coming soon.
1:04:35 Laci Mosley? Yes, coming soon. All right, congregation, stay scam. Scam Goddess.
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