The Inventing Heiress with Nicole Byer (Fraud Friday)

Top of the morning to you, con-gregation! Emmy-nominated Nicole Byer is on the show this week to break down the fake Irish heiress who scammed her way into a pot of gold worth around ninety thousand dollars. Plus, the car actually appreciates when you drive it off the lot if you didn't pay for it. Stay schemin! See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:01Laci Mosley?

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• 2:45Speaker 05

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess. And guys, I'm so, I always say, what do we say? Say it with me. I'm so excited for today's guest. But for real, y'all, okay, this is the first time that we've had a repeat guest. The one, the only, I think for the whole season, this will be the only repeat guest. Guys, she is the Emmy nominated hilarious queen, one of the amazing hosts of Nailed It. You love her podcast, Why Won't You Date Me? You love her podcast, Best Friends? You love her in everything that you freaking see. This is Nicole Byer, guys. What's up, Nicole? Lacey, what a beautiful intro.

• 3:29Speaker 05

  And I love that you tell people to say things with you because I would love to see someone like in their car, just being, like, just talking with you, feeling themselves. I love it. Right. I feel like especially now, podcasts are like you're just kind of talking to yourself. So I want you to feel like I'm talking back. Like, what did y'all say? Y'all so crazy. So we just had a moment. So y'all get to keep that. Well, we've talked about scams, Nicole, and your relationship with scams and... Yes, yes, yes. I remember you telling me that you've fallen for some scams, right? Have I fallen? I don't know if I fall. I scammed, we talked about me scamming my dad. Okay, yeah, we did talk about you scamming your dad.

• 4:13Speaker 05

  I thought that there was a scam that you fell for. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe. I don't remember, and I'm trying to rack my brain, I mean, I just bought a shitty bike from a shitty company, and I think that was a fucking scam. BikeBerry.com. I got very drunk and was Googling bikes, and you know, they paid for those ads to pop up first, so I clicked on that paid-for ad. I found this purple bike that like said it was a cruiser, but then I got it. There was a hole in it. A hole in it? Took a picture. There was a hole in the box, and I sent that picture to the company, and they were like, "Oh, well, the thing that's poking through the box was there just in case there was damage to the box during shipping."

• 4:58Speaker 05

  I said, "Well, I don't know if I really want to open the bike and like figure out other stuff wrong with it." And they were like, "All right." And you know, bad on me for not reading the return policy where it's like, you pay for the ship and back. I don't know how much shipping is for a fucking bike on myself. Is it a lot? It's probably, it's probably, it's a heavy, it's like 70, or I don't know, not 70 pounds, 60 pounds, 40 pounds, I don't know. And then you pay like a 15% restocking fee, and I was like, "So I'm still going to be out like 50, 60, maybe 80 dollars on this $200 bike? I might as well just put it together." Put it together. This thing is so fucking janky, like the gears just twist around, and I didn't put it together. I can't do that shit. I had a man put it together. I was about to say, did you put it together?

• 5:41Speaker 05

  I was about to be like, "Okay, Nicole, this is, I was not expecting that." That was the scam right there. You put the bike together. I had a man put it together. And he was like, he followed the directions to a T, and we could, like, the gears just spin. It is such a shitty bike. So then I posted about how shitty it was, and they're like, "Well, we started a return for you." And I was like, "Yeah, but I also told you I was going to open it and see how it was." And I opened it, and this is a piece of shit bike. I'm very entitled to that opinion. And I'm like, "So now you want me to disassemble it, put this fucking shitty-ass bike back in the box? You want me to pay 15%? No, I'm just going to donate it." Jacob Wazaki was like, "You should donate it." And I was like, "Oh, yeah, so I might be able to use the frame." Because the frame isn't bad. The wheels are bad, the handles are bad.

• 6:25Speaker 05

  I thought you were saying you were going to donate it to a place where it was like going to be some little kid riding this janky-ass bike. I was like, Nicole, that ain't right. Imagine. I donated it to like kids that need a bike, and then they die on this BikeBerry.com bike. Also, I feel like a bike is something that most people buy in person. Am I crazy? I feel like this is very ambitious of you to like buy a not, a do-it-yourself bike. I know, I know. It was very ambitious. I thought I was getting a good deal, but you get what you pay for. John was like, my roommate was like, "Yeah, you have to go sit on the bike and see it in person." I said, "Okay. All right, I give up. I'll go, I'll go sit on a bike another day."

• 7:10Speaker 05

  I think that's the right choice. Because look, I won't even do a sourdough starter, so you are very brave. You are very brave to buy a whole bike in a box. It's my bike in a box. It's a bike in a box. Oh, goodness. Let's get into what's hot and fraud. I need a name, Nicole, for this person. This person probably identifies as a woman, but I don't care. You can, it can be any name you want in the world. Okay. I love that you're really giving this a lot of thought. Okay. You just, just a name? Just a name for a person. Okay, let's call her Teresa. What a basic fucking name.

• 7:54Speaker 05

  You did all that thinking. Took all that time. For Teresa. And I came up with Teresa. No, she'll, she, Shamika, that's my cousin's name. Oh, Shamika. I like, I know some Shamikas. They're nice. Most of them, they can fight. Can your cousin fight? Does she, does she look like she can fight? I think Shamika could take you on in a fight. She's tall. Oh, okay. She's, she's, she's a tall woman. I've never met a Shamika that couldn't fight, so that's just something they're skilled at, okay? There's nothing wrong with that. So Shamika says, "I did this scam a decade ago when I was a young, broke adult, and it worked out well at the time." Okay. She says, "In my state, home state of Montana..."

• 8:34Laci Mosley?

  Shamika, okay, Shamika is definitely white.

• 8:38Laci Mosley?

  I just looked at the Google photo.

• 8:42Laci Mosley?

  Shamika said, also, she said my home state of Montana, and that made me shoot my eyes back up to the photo. Cause I was like, are there, is there a black in Montana?

• 8:50Speaker 05

  I went to Billings, Montana, once, and to get to Billings, Montana, I think I flew to whatever their capital is, or whatever their big city is, and then got on the tiniest fucking plane to get to Billings, and the black flight attendant looked at me as I got on the plane and said, honey, you going to the right place? And I was like, well, she's asking, I don't know. Then I got there and I was like, mm, now I know why she was, she was worried about.

• 9:13Laci Mosley?

  She started smiling and blinking and the tear came out her eye. Yes, she was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 9:18Speaker 05

  She was, no, no, no, get, get off the plane, get out.

• 9:23Laci Mosley?

  I feel like you went to one of those towns where like they have a, a population sign and then it like goes up when you get there.

• 9:29Speaker 05

  Yep, uh huh, it goes right back down when I left the next day.

• 9:33Laci Mosley?

  Why, were you there for work or something? Why were you, okay?

• 9:36Speaker 05

  I was doing a show at a college. Uh, college shows have truly taken me to the wildest, most racist, smallest towns I've ever been to.

• 9:46Laci Mosley?

  And it's funny, cause they hired you.

• 9:48Speaker 05

  Correct.

• 9:49Laci Mosley?

  Now, now, I'm, you are very funny and you're very talented and very beautiful, Nicole, but part of me wonders if they hired you cause they're like, this is our one chance to lay eyes on a black person. We're gonna have to pay them, but they will come here.

• 10:01Speaker 05

  Well, a lot of campuses are pretty liberal, like, you'll be smack dab in the middle of like Confederate flag country. Like, I was in Arizona, got off the plane, tons of Trump flags, this is in 2015, and like, you know, Confederate flags. I saw like a people of swastika somewhere, and then got to the campus and it was like hippie dippy, people with like neon hair. And I was like, what the fuck did I do? It's so, it's like, once you cross over into the college, they're like, higher learning, we're inclusive, we want to love everybody. So, uh, yeah, but also maybe it is just to see a black one, one time.

• 10:38Laci Mosley?

  I'm sure it was because you're very funny, um, but, but also, I'm sure afterwards, they were like, wow, that's what it's like, guys. A black person.

• 10:47Speaker 05

  Oh, my God.

• 10:48Laci Mosley?

  Did you do meet and greets?

• 10:49Speaker 05

  Blacker in person, uh, yeah, I usually do meet and greets.

• 10:52Laci Mosley?

  Oh, so they got to talk to you?

• 10:54Speaker 05

  They did, they did, and one college, a woman gave me lotion and I was like, is this a dig? I was like, am I, I guess I'm notoriously ashy, I always post pictures and I look so ashy. And it was a white lady and I was like, oh no, if they know.

• 11:10Laci Mosley?

  No, not if they know, look, white people don't know about ashyness, they don't know about it. But I will say that Jaki says that, uh, it's racist when people don't have lotion in the bathroom. Cause black people need lotion after they wash their hands, so maybe, maybe she was just trying to help you out.

• 11:26Speaker 05

  Maybe, maybe she was, she was like, there is no lotion in Billings, Montana, not one Walmart carries a single drop of lotion.

• 11:33Laci Mosley?

  Like, we don't need it.

• 11:34Speaker 05

  So I'll do you a favor.

• 11:36Laci Mosley?

  But wait.

• 11:37Speaker 05

  But white people do need lotion.

• 11:38Laci Mosley?

  They do, but they don't know that they need it. Oh, you know what, now is your chance, y'all, lotion, everybody needs it.

• 11:45Speaker 05

  Yes, everybody needs it.

• 11:46Laci Mosley?

  Wait, here's the indic-, okay, I think this is gonna be indicative if she was being shady. Was it like a fragrant, like a, a nice lotion, or did she give you some jergens?

• 11:56Speaker 05

  No, it was actually very nice lotion, I cannot say the name of the company, I've been laughed at before, uh, Lioctane.

• 12:04Laci Mosley?

  Loxitan.

• 12:05Speaker 05

  Oh, my God, yep.

• 12:08Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, listen, I didn't know either, I had a boyfriend in college and he spoke fluent French, and one time I was like, oh, I love Lioctane. He was like, Loxitan? I was like, oh.

• 12:19Speaker 05

  Loxitan, that's so, I'll never fucking remember that name, Loxitan, what a treat, Loxitan.

• 12:26Laci Mosley?

  It really rolls off your tongue, though, you're giving me face with it.

• 12:28Speaker 05

  It does if you can remember it.

• 12:31Laci Mosley?

  Well, no, she was trying to flex, she went and got you some good lotion, I think that wasn't shade, that wasn't shade.

• 12:37Speaker 05

  Okay, she was being nice, all right.

• 12:38Laci Mosley?

  So, back to Shamika, who is definitely white, uh, she says, in my state of Montana, we have a quit line. You can call for free anti-smoking items like gum and patches. It, I took it upon myself to call the quit line and have the short conversation about my smoking habits. They agreed to send me the patches and every two weeks, I need to have a 15-minute conversation with them to check in on how I'm doing. That's interesting to me, cause it's like, if people wanna quit, then why do I need to, like, they're like, okay, yeah, you wanna quit? So how was this week? How many cigarettes did you have? How much, like, how much tobacco did you lick on? Like, what, what is this conversation?

• 13:18Speaker 05

  Lick on, well, quitting is very hard, I've tried to quit smoking, uh, no less than four times, 10 times, 100 times, uh, and it's hard.

• 13:28Laci Mosley?

  I will say that, I was never into smoking cigarettes, but for a four-month period, I was jeweling like I was a 15-year-old.

• 13:41Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, you just puff on them inside.

• 13:43Laci Mosley?

  It was.

• 13:44Speaker 05

  That's so wild that you weren't a smoker, but you were like, but jewel, I'll do that.

• 13:48Laci Mosley?

  Cause you know, we do comedy and we'll be outside of bars and shit afterwards, and you know, you have a few drinks, and then people would be like jeweling and I'd be like, and sometimes back in the day, I would like bum a cigarette, so it wasn't like a big deal to like, you know, do that, so I was like, oh, jewel. Then I was like, oh, it's not sanitary to just like puff someone else's jewel, I'll just go grab my own for whenever, and then I woke up and Nicole, I kid you not, jewel pods everywhere, like fucking chargers everywhere, and I didn't know when I had become this person. I had a jewel charger in my car, so I, so I could, so I could plug it in my car and keep the jewel charged all day. I had no idea that I was so ridiculously addicted to it.

• 14:29Speaker 05

  So the commercials are real, when there's a team, it's like it started with one puff, and next thing I knew, my life revolved around jewel.

• 14:36Laci Mosley?

  I was sucking dick for jewel, like it's.

• 14:41Speaker 05

  You know that's when times is rough, when you are sucking dick for a cigarette or a jewel.

• 14:48Laci Mosley?

  They're not cheap either, and those pods are not cheap.

• 14:51Speaker 05

  How much are those pods?

• 14:51Laci Mosley?

  Those pods, depending on what store you're going to, some stores will really rip you off and they'll be like 35 for a four-pack.

• 14:57Speaker 05

  Damn.

• 14:58Laci Mosley?

  And then some places, it's 27 for a four-pack.

• 15:01Speaker 05

  Damn, you know, I miss the days where you could share a cigarette with a friend or drink after a friend, never again, never again. We was fucking nasty, now, like, you know, like, now that I think about it, like, I kinda like wearing a mask, especially like working, cause like, people get so close to you to mic you, and now it's so nice that like, we're not breathing on each other.

• 15:23Laci Mosley?

  I think it's great, I also think it's a wake-up call to people who have hot-ass breath, and, and, and we can never tell people that they breath hot. Like, can we normalize telling people that they breath is hot as fuck? Cause there's people singeing my eyelashes off, and now I know they gotta smell that, they gotta have it burn their own nostrils.

• 15:39Speaker 05

  Just right back up in there, I was at a protest and I was like, oh no, I think I have bad breath. And then so she was like, did you wa-, when's the last time you washed your mask? And I was like, wash?

• 15:54Speaker 05

  But now I'm, I'm in it, I'm in the game, I realize, it's like clothing, you gotta wash it every couple days, so I'm, I'm in it.

• 16:02Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I've had, I've had to go out with a funky mask once or twice, and I was like, this is fucking torture, just.

• 16:07Speaker 05

  It's awful.

• 16:08Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 16:12Laci Mosley?

  911, what's your emergency? Please help us, they're everywhere.

• 16:18Speaker 01

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• 16:22Speaker 06

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• 16:24Speaker 02

  Three bodies on the ground.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Oh, since swarms upon you and upon your people.

• 16:31Speaker 06

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• 16:32Speaker 02

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• 18:08Laci Mosley?

  But yeah, so, oh my god, I've never admitted, am I gonna, maybe I'll cut that out about the Juul thing, I don't know if I'm ready to tell you guys that I was doing that, um, but I was, I was, I guess I'll be honest.

• 18:17Speaker 05

  I mean, you don't have to be.

• 18:19Laci Mosley?

  Don't do Juul.

• 18:20Speaker 05

  If you don't want the information out there, I rarely talk about smoking because people look down on you so much and they're like, just quit, it's not good, and I'm like, you don't think I know?

• 18:30Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 18:31Speaker 05

  We're in a pandemic and I'm hiding in my house because I'm more susceptible to cut, like, I have bad lungs, yet I know, I know what I've been doing.

• 18:39Laci Mosley?

  Right, and it's like, and people, that's, but, maybe this will be a cautionary tale for someone out there, guys, don't Juul, don't Juul, it's bad.

• 18:45Speaker 05

  Don't Juul, don't start.

• 18:46Laci Mosley?

  Don't start, no, for real, don't start.

• 18:48Speaker 05

  It's, like, I had to learn how to smoke, I'm not an inherent smoker, so I would, like, sit in my garage and, like, inhale and then cough, and then slowly inhale halfway, hold the other half in my mouth, it was, why, for what, and now, it's, you know, twenty dollars every couple days, just so I can get my little fix, oh, it's, it's a, thank you, Big Tobacco, that's a scam.

• 19:14Laci Mosley?

  Right, oh, the biggest, one of the biggest, it's crazy that Big Tobacco also pays for all the ads that warn you about cigarettes, cuz that's like,

• 19:22Speaker 05

  Do they?

• 19:23Laci Mosley?

  Yes, that's like their ru, like, their thing with the government, it's like Philip Morris, like, they have to pay for those ads.

• 19:29Speaker 05

  They pay for the truth ads?

• 19:30Laci Mosley?

  Yes, with the li, little black kids, like, I would never smoke, cuz I can't let my hood down, and now we about to dance and play basketball.

• 19:42Laci Mosley?

  Why are those commercials like that?

• 19:44Speaker 05

  Uh, that is, I mean, yeah, black commercials, sometimes I'm like, who did this? Was it a black person?

• 19:50Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 19:50Speaker 05

  Or is this a white person projecting what they think black culture is?

• 19:54Laci Mosley?

  If you wanna see a, a TV show where you can very much tell where everyone on it was white, who was riding for the black people, I highly recommend, um, In the Dark, I think that's what it's called on Netflix, that's the, the show about the blind woman who becomes a detective, um,

• 20:13Laci Mosley?

  That don't even sound right, but.

• 20:15Speaker 05

  I'm not being ableist, but, uh, maybe I am being ableist, I feel like that would be just a real uphill battle.

• 20:22Laci Mosley?

  It is, and that's why the show is fun to watch, cuz you're watching her, like, she's impressive, but then she, she solved in the murder of her, her little black friend who saved her once from a mugging, but he's a drug dealer, and, um, but like, he's clearly a British actor, and, and, and, the whole thing is written by white people, you can just tell, that they'd never, they'd never heard of drug dealers before, they did, they probably watched The Wire a little bit and were like, I can do that.

• 20:49Speaker 05

  I once did a McDonald's commercial where McDonald's, you know, props to them, they have a whole website for black people, it's called McDonald's 365, it's like, and they, and it's like, they talk about black history all year round, uh, but I,

• 21:05Laci Mosley?

  That's how you know we eat too much at McDonald's.

• 21:07Speaker 05

  We're eating too much. But I did this voiceover, it was me and, uh, two or three other black women, and I don't remember if I had auditioned for it, but they were like, alright, let's go for it, and my line was, don't steal my french fries, so I said, don't steal my french fries, and they were like, can you, and then I was like, sass it up, and then the other women laughed, and I was like, don't steal my french fries, and then the other women sounded just like me, and they were like, ah, ah, girl, that's my call, I'ma dip it in the french fry, yeah, pop it, pop. And then, after all three of us did it like that, the, uh, whoever, I guess it was whoever, like, the producers or whatever, the buyers were like, okay, let's just go back to your

• 21:51Speaker 05

  normal voices, and I was like, point made, I, like, I love that we made that point, cuz it was like, if you want a minstrel show, you, that's what you can have.

• 22:00Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 22:01Speaker 05

  Or you can have, like, just three black women talking, it was wild.

• 22:06Laci Mosley?

  I am gonna take that with me, cuz that is an excellent, not, who's, also, like, why are the lines, like, y'all getting robbed?

• 22:16Laci Mosley?

  And you bet don't speak, cuz I know you like to steal, y'all know how y'all be, like, what, why are y'all getting robbed in this commercial?

• 22:24Speaker 05

  So Sheer has a pretty good joke about it, I can't remember, it was like, the black blinds to go, where it was like, you can't see in my house, it was based on a commercial, and then I have a joke about McDonald's and how, my god, sometimes they're just like, my baby daddy took me to get a McRib, and I was like, they both back, and you're like, what the fuck?

• 22:43Laci Mosley?

  Not they both back, I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I have to go home, and I'm at home.

• 22:53Laci Mosley?

  So guys, what a wild tangent, but to wrap up Shamika, White Shamika's letter. White Shamika says, I, after she would have her conversations where she talked about how hard it was, and, a, actually, we just talked about how hard it is, and so, I understand these conversations now, she said, I received all three stages of patches, not sure how many in total, but as soon as I got them, I put them up for sale on eBay, and I had no problem selling them for thirty or forty dollars a box, I know I made a few hundred dollars doing this, and eventually, I just ignored their calls and quit getting the patches, I'm terrible, signed Shamika.

• 23:31Laci Mosley?

  Just in case you forgot what we were talking about when we went on these tangents, Shamika.

• 23:34Speaker 05

  Truly, I did.

• 23:35Laci Mosley?

  Shamika maybe never smoked cigarettes, or if she did, she didn't quit, or she just called the quit line, got the very expensive free quitting materials, and then she went to eBay and she slang them.

• 23:51Speaker 05

  You know, I don't, I, I don't knock the hustle, I really don't.

• 23:55Laci Mosley?

  Shamika, I fucks with you, like, I think, and come on, in Montana.

• 24:00Speaker 05

  Yes, get it Shamika, I think Shamika is an entrepreneur.

• 24:04Laci Mosley?

  Yes, she's a, what, what do they call when you a woman entrepreneur, a herchip, I thought we had a word for that.

• 24:10Speaker 05

  Do we?

• 24:11Laci Mosley?

  Where we just put her in it or something.

• 24:13Speaker 05

  A herchip.

• 24:14Laci Mosley?

  Shechip.

• 24:18Speaker 05

  Herchip truly sounds like something wrong with, like, a herniated disc.

• 24:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 24:22Speaker 05

  Ooh, I herchip in my disc.

• 24:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you're right, it's not very motivating, we don't, we don't need that one.

• 24:30Laci Mosley?

  This is my favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks, where I will regale Emmy-nominated Nicole Byer with, I just have to sprinkle it in, like, seasoning a little bit, cuz.

• 24:39Speaker 05

  Honestly, it truly is such a wild thing, who would've thought?

• 24:44Laci Mosley?

  I would've.

• 24:44Speaker 05

  Who, who would've thought?

• 24:46Laci Mosley?

  You're a black queen, I love it, so, I'm gonna regale her with a Historic Hoodwink, and we're just gonna get her thoughts and opinions along the way, uh, today we're talking about a man named Jonathan Walton, a producer on American Ninja Warrior, that's that show where the athletic people, uh, hurt themselves, uh, and they do an obstacle course, and so you watch it hoping that they fall.

• 25:10Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 25:10Laci Mosley?

  So, he was conned out of nearly ninety thousand dollars by his best friend, gonna put that in quotes, Mayor Smythe, Mayor claimed to be a Royal Irish heiress waiting to inherit five million euros, so.

• 25:27Speaker 05

  Wait a minute.

• 25:28Laci Mosley?

  Irish accent.

• 25:28Speaker 05

  If I ever met somebody, if I ever met somebody who was like, just so you know, I'm an heiress and I'm gonna inherit five million dollars, I'd be like, so you good with money, I don't have to give you shit, you good, you about to get it.

• 25:42Laci Mosley?

  But I'm bout to get it though, girl, like, I just need the taxes and fees.

• 25:46Speaker 05

  No, don't worry about it, you can pay for all that once you get your inheritance.

• 25:50Laci Mosley?

  So, I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you some things that are gonna make more sense as to why maybe this worked on him.

• 25:55Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 25:56Laci Mosley?

  So, the first time that Jonathan, who was forty-five, met this woman who became his best friend and turned into his worst enemy, obviously, she was offering to help with his building's pool, so Walton lived in a Bunker Hill apartment complex in downtown Los Angeles, where is Bunker Hill?

• 26:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't know where Bunker Hill is.

• 26:13Laci Mosley?

  But it says downtown LA, I don't live down there, so it says, they lost access to their stunning pool amid a dispute with another building, these are champagne problems, so we're like, we lost the pool, also, what do you mean a dispute with another building? Y'all was fighting that building?

• 26:32Laci Mosley?

  I really wouldn't imagine people punching brick, but I know that's not what's happening, so.

• 26:37Speaker 05

  No, not at all.

• 26:37Laci Mosley?

  When Walton, an earnest and animated former news reporter, held a meeting about the incident in his living room, about thirty people showed up, cuz they're trying to get the pool back, guys.

• 26:48Speaker 05

  I guess so.

• 26:49Laci Mosley?

  That meeting is where he met forty-something-year-old woman with jet-black hair in a pixie cut, ooh, she's a manic pixie dream girl. Who soon took charge of the conversation, she was dressed in pastel-colored clothes, shoes that looks high-end, and she spoke with the slightest trace of an accent, which I'm assuming is an Irish accent, which is a hard accent to do.

• 27:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, to, to do just like a trace of, I would think, it, it's harder than just fully getting into it.

• 27:17Laci Mosley?

  Little charms.

• 27:19Speaker 05

  So, listen, I want the pool to come back, I don't, whoop, whoop, whoop, that was bad.

• 27:25Laci Mosley?

  No, that was really good, that was better than anything I could do.

• 27:31Laci Mosley?

  I I literally went to they're magically delicious.

• 27:34Speaker 05

  Yes, they stole me like a charms and took away my pool.

• 27:40Laci Mosley?

  Well, this worked. Also, I feel like he must have equated her with just casually wearing pastels as someone who's like rich. I'm trying to think, I don't see a lot of people just like unless you're at Coachella, you don't just see people who are walking around in full pastel.

• 27:55Speaker 05

  Not like head to toe in pastel, but now I'm thinking about maybe I gotta get more pastel in my life.

• 28:03Laci Mosley?

  Is that how I show people I'm a real fancy hoe is?

• 28:06Speaker 05

  Be like, I got money, I'm wearing lavender.

• 28:08Laci Mosley?

  Maybe cuz I really don't see it that often. Um, so she said during her conversation where she had taken over that she was a luxury travel agent and her boyfriend was a prominent real estate lawyer. She said that she had sued their own apartment complex a couple of times and won. Have you ever needed to sue your apartment? I mean, you live in a house, but when you lived in an apartment, did you need to sue them?

• 28:32Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no, no. Although my landlord, oh, maybe I talked about this last time. My landlord was running a scam, so he was like, you can give me or the super your rent. And then a couple of years down the line, there was a note on the building that was like, do not let Louis in the building. He was embezzling money. And then in the paper, we were like, oh shit. Yeah. He was like embezzling money and sent his kids to private school, which I was like, you know, that's nice.

• 28:59Laci Mosley?

  That's a nice thing for the children.

• 29:02Speaker 05

  That's nice.

• 29:02Laci Mosley?

  Also, we need to teach the children, let them lead the way.

• 29:06Speaker 05

  Yes, but no, I've never had to sue my apart. I know pay rent. I'd never paid rent on time. This is the first time in my life where I've paid my living expenses on time because it comes out of my bank account.

• 29:16Laci Mosley?

  Oh, right. Cause it's like auto withdraw. I'm childish. I won't do that. And I know that I could withdraw forever and I'd probably be fine, but I every month I just get the email and I begrudgingly go over there and like hit the payment button. And I don't know why I do it. I think I get like high from it. Sometimes I'll wait cuz I only get till the third. I don't even get till the fifth before you get a late fee. So I'm like.

• 29:38Speaker 05

  You only get to the third?

• 29:39Laci Mosley?

  Third girl. They don't play.

• 29:42Speaker 05

  My apartment in New York, when I finally moved out, I would also never pay rent on time. I would pay like three months at a time after the three months. And then when I finally moved out, they were like, your last month of rent is due. And I was like, that's why you bitches have security. And they're like, no, the security is covering all your late fees. And I was like, I don't live here no more. So I.

• 30:04Laci Mosley?

  This is beautiful. You really are a scammer. She was like, that's why you got that deposit. Bye bye. So she's very charismatic. She's bantering with the neighbors. She sued the building a bunch of times. I imagine her going to like Judge Joe Brown suing the apartment building. I hope that's where it happens.

• 30:23Laci Mosley?

  And her story is is that she in time would also mention that she was pals with Ashley Judd and show him a closet full of allegedly thousand dollar designer shoes. And share that she had a psychic gift. Now I know what you're thinking. If you met somebody and they were like, hey, I be suing my apartment building every other Thursday. Um, I own thousand dollar shoes. Ashley Judd is my homegirl.

• 30:49Laci Mosley?

  And also I'm a psychic. Like if you heard all of that at one time, you would be like, bitch, what's going on?

• 30:55Speaker 05

  I would be like, I should stay away from this fucking person. This is too much.

• 30:59Laci Mosley?

  But they were friends for four years before she scammed him.

• 31:04Speaker 05

  Honestly, Bravo.

• 31:06Laci Mosley?

  This is.

• 31:07Speaker 05

  Bravo. What a long con.

• 31:09Laci Mosley?

  Right? I was very impressed. So I get how over the years, if you have a casual conversation, like my homegirl would be like, girl, you know, I'm a Bruja. And I wouldn't think that's crazy. I was like, yeah, you a Bruja, but I've known her for years. I was like, sure, you're a Bruja. She hasn't asked me for ninety thousand dollars yet.

• 31:25Speaker 05

  But beware.

• 31:26Laci Mosley?

  Right. But she has shown me some nice clothes. She is friends with some famous people and she's a Bruja. So technically I already know somebody like this.

• 31:34Laci Mosley?

  I'm just saying, she worked it in a way. I was like, all seems legit, seems normal. So she unwound her story over many, many meetings like we were just talking about. And later on, in a visit to her apartment, Walton glimpsed at a small frame printed on what Smith said was the Constitution of Ireland. So it's her last name is Smith. So he looked at this frame and then he was like, what is this? And he was like, oh, this is the Constitution of Ireland, you know, casual hanging in my living room. She said that her great uncle had signed it. She explained, pointing out his signature. Later, she said that the same great uncle had just died and stood to inherit, she stood to inherit part of his twenty five million dollar euro, or excuse me, million euro inheritance, which is about twenty seven point five million dollars.

• 32:21Laci Mosley?

  So in keeping with her image as a wealthy and worldly heiress, she occasionally showed Walton texts and emails from her friends like Ashley Judd, whom she had met and called Ashley, I'm so sorry.

• 32:34Speaker 05

  Why did you get truly that her name is dragged all over this?

• 32:37Laci Mosley?

  Also, like, is she like relabeling somebody's number in her phone, Ashley Judd and texting herself?

• 32:44Speaker 05

  Probably. But also what a wild person to pick. No shade to Ashley Judd, but she's not. Well, I guess honestly, what a smart pick because she's not super famous, but like we all know Ashley Judd's name.

• 32:58Laci Mosley?

  Well, didn't Harvey Weinstein ruin her career? I think that's what happened. Poor Ashley Judd, girl. I could be absolutely wrong about that. Let me say allegedly. And by allegedly, I mean, I thought that. But last time I came on here and I said that Michael Jackson's song at the end where they go, mama say I'm a musta, mama goosea. I was like, it's actually words, guys. It means I'mma keep going, I'm not gonna stop. I'mma keep going.

• 33:26Laci Mosley?

  And I definitely told everybody that was true. And they're like, no, it's not.

• 33:31Speaker 05

  That is, I love that you just up on here lying to people. People be telling their friends facts that they learned from Lacey. And then they're like, girl, that's not it. That's no, she lying to you.

• 33:42Laci Mosley?

  The scam facts are true, guys. We researched, I swear. But anything that I say off the cuff could be a lie. But it's not a lie if I believe it. I remember that's how the truth works. I taught y'all that.

• 33:54Speaker 05

  That's what I honestly believe.

• 33:57Laci Mosley?

  So due to her family's money, she said that she didn't need a job, but preferred to keep busy working for luxury tour operators.

• 34:06Laci Mosley?

  Pacificislands.com and later as a psychic. In the time Walton knew her, she also had several plastic surgeries, including what he recalls as a nose job, a breast enhancement and some liposuction. So she's an LA girl.

• 34:21Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 34:23Laci Mosley?

  Reading tarot cards.

• 34:25Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 34:26Laci Mosley?

  Getting lip fillers.

• 34:27Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 34:27Laci Mosley?

  As you do.

• 34:28Speaker 05

  She's a, she's a housewife. I love it.

• 34:30Laci Mosley?

  Not mad at all. So they are have this really close friendship. He opens up to her, her about his family. Um, and about his sexuality and how some people didn't accept him. She understood how painful alienation from family members could be, she said, revealing that her cousins were trying to get her disinherited. The drama. So she showed him nasty texts and emails from these cousins, especially one named Fenton, who occasionally wrote in Gaelic. Walton was enthralled with the family drama. So she basically was like, I wouldn't be surprised if this was like all the plot of several Tyler Perry movies that she has seen.

• 35:13Speaker 05

  I'mma do my own. I mean, Tyler doesn't take too much time to produce them. I think she took more time to produce a Tyler Perry movie than Tyler takes to produce his own.

• 35:22Laci Mosley?

  To produce these emails? You might be right.

• 35:24Speaker 05

  And I'm not being shady because he shoots seasons in the matter of weeks.

• 35:30Laci Mosley?

  And he does.

• 35:30Speaker 05

  Which is wild.

• 35:31Laci Mosley?

  And I know actors who work for him and they work very hard.

• 35:36Laci Mosley?

  I was like, shout out to y'all cuz.

• 35:38Speaker 05

  Long days, long days.

• 35:40Laci Mosley?

  And wigs, the wig.

• 35:43Speaker 05

  Wigs, wigs, wigs, wigs, wigs on wigs on wigs.

• 35:45Laci Mosley?

  The wigs are just, if, if, if you could manifest struggle into a hairpiece, those wigs.

• 35:54Laci Mosley?

  They're rough.

• 36:02Speaker 01

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• 36:09Speaker 06

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• 36:11Speaker 02

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• 36:12Speaker 01

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• 36:15Speaker 02

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• 36:18Speaker 06

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• 36:19Speaker 02

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• 36:22Speaker 01

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• 37:54Laci Mosley?

  And fraud! Um, so, basically she moves to a new loft and they call each other all the time, tell each other that they love each other. So now, let's get into her inheritance. By April 2015, homegirl had come to Walton with tears cascading down her face, asking for a loan. So, the first loan that she got was for $4,200. Then she came back and says she needed another $5,800 to pay rent at her new loft, which is crazy because she had an inheritance, right?

• 38:37Speaker 05

  Yes, and she's a psychic, so she didn't see it coming? She didn't move before she couldn't afford to pay it?

• 38:41Laci Mosley?

  She did not move before she could afford to pay it.

• 38:44Speaker 05

  You gotta get out.

• 38:46Laci Mosley?

  She said that her great uncle's will contained a clause stating that anyone with a convicted felony would be exempt from the will. Walton voiced his fears that Smith's cousins might frame her to push her out of the will. So this is why... So in 2014, Walton's speculation seemed to come true. He received a collect call from a detention facility that Smith had been arrested on charges that she had stolen about $200,000 from PacificIslands.com, which is the travel agency that she worked for. So, she basically sold this as like, "My cousins are setting me up." "That call that you got from jail, that's fentanyl in them." Was it in Gaelic?

• 39:27Speaker 05

  I mean, this is exhausting. Honestly, the amount of work she put in, she could have just gotten herself a job.

• 39:34Laci Mosley?

  This was her job.

• 39:36Speaker 05

  This is work.

• 39:37Laci Mosley?

  But that's the thing about scamming. People think scamming is not work. Scamming is an employment. It's a profession. I'm honestly upset that scammers can't get unemployment right now because they have been self-employed and you know that's something we need to work on. They want, they need, they stimulus too. We need a scam stimulus.

• 39:56Laci Mosley?

  For robbery, okay? How you gonna be doing robbery when everybody in their house?

• 39:59Speaker 05

  Truly, I was just thinking that the other day. I was like, how do you rob a house if everybody's home?

• 40:07Laci Mosley?

  So just like hairdressers can't do hair in person, robbers can't do their normal robberies in person.

• 40:12Speaker 05

  They can't rob in person.

• 40:13Laci Mosley?

  Exactly, so everybody's really hurting right now. So I feel for her. I feel for my sisters. So, cut back to, she's crying to him, like, "I need this money. Um, I gotta go down to the attorney's office, um, because they done froze my bank accounts. The LA District Attorney froze my coins up, uh, because they think that I did this robbery at this job that I definitely worked at, but really it was my cousins who had set me up, but for some reason the jail called you. But really it was my cousins who had put me in jail from Ireland." This makes sense.

• 40:48Speaker 05

  I mean, the fact that he fell for that is so wild.

• 40:51Laci Mosley?

  She was throwing a lot at him at once. It was probably a lot to process.

• 40:54Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:55Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean?

• 40:55Speaker 05

  And he's like, "But that's my pastel friend."

• 40:58Laci Mosley?

  Right. And she, he came out to her about his lifestyle, like she accepted him. So they had an emotional relationship, so it makes sense. So, he wrote her a cashier's check, which those are the checks that go.

• 41:11Speaker 05

  That's money.

• 41:12Laci Mosley?

  That's liquid. So, he agreed that she said when she regained access to her bank account or received her inheritance, she would pay him back. In the meantime, she moved back into Bunker Hill Towers for a relatively cheaper rent. With the case still ongoing, she asked him for another $3,800 the next month for rent. Over the year, as it passed on and dragged on, with Walton receiving frequent updates, she was still asking him for money. So in September 2016, she finally came and just really got the bag. She said that, "Hey, they're gonna give me a plea agreement for this money that I didn't steal from my job, that my, definitely my cousins had framed me from a different country." Great plea agreement I'm getting, $50,000,

• 41:56Laci Mosley?

  and serve jail time. But I'm gonna need $50,000 from you.

• 42:01Speaker 05

  And this man gave her $50,000?

• 42:05Laci Mosley?

  He forked over nearly $60,000, yeah. And he also loaned her $2,000 for the lawyer to help her avoid eviction, because then she wasn't paying rent.

• 42:14Speaker 05

  Then what was she spending the money on? This man needed to ask questions. I would be like, "What? How? No."

• 42:21Laci Mosley?

  He didn't ask a single question.

• 42:23Speaker 05

  Also, he just had $60,000 laying around? This man is a smart man to have that much cash laying around.

• 42:29Laci Mosley?

  Well, he worked in TV, so, you know, he might have been getting the checks.

• 42:33Speaker 05

  I mean, damn.

• 42:35Laci Mosley?

  And he, that's wild. He believed her. He believed that she was gonna repay him. But one day during her February 2017 sentence, when Walton logged on to the jail's website to schedule a visit, he clicked on her profile at the LA County Sheriff's website and he noticed something strange. She had been charged and convicted with a felony. So, she was trying to avoid eviction. She eventually did have to go to jail. And then when he was going to go see her, probably put some money on her books for some ramen noodles and stuff. He looked and they were like, "Yeah, she was convicted of a felony felony." Like she was doing crime, crime.

• 43:11Laci Mosley?

  So, he took a day off work, traveled to the airport courthouse near LAX to draw up the records on her case. When he started looking through the records, he realized that everything that she told him was, say it with me, guys, a lie. The plea agreement meant that she had pleaded guilty, that her bank accounts had never been frozen. They weren't frozen, they just were empty.

• 43:33Speaker 05

  Empty.

• 43:34Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna start telling people my bank account frozen if there ain't no money in there. That's, it basically is. The bank won't let me make transfers anymore because they say it's no money in there. So they stopped, they froze my transfers.

• 43:46Speaker 05

  They froze it, so if you wanna, you know, PayPal me some, you wanna Venmo me something so I can get my transfers back up? That's, my god.

• 43:55Laci Mosley?

  That's excellent wording. If you wanna Venmo me money so I can get my transfers back up.

• 44:02Laci Mosley?

  That's the phrasing. That is excellent phrasing for, "I don't have no money, send me money so I can start spending money again." That is amazing. So, her plea agreement was for $40,000, not $50, and it included 180-day jail sentence, later reduced to 30 days. Oh, god. So, basically she skimmed him. She like upped, she was like, "I need $50,000 so I can get this time served." Then she just kept a little ten so she could get her transfers back up. So she was like, "Some for the court, some for me."

• 44:33Speaker 05

  Some for me.

• 44:34Laci Mosley?

  On the day of the release, he picked her up, which I'm like, "Bro, why are you even still fucking with her?"

• 44:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, why are you still involved?

• 44:40Laci Mosley?

  Because I think he was trying to get his money back. So he was like, "You've been lying to me this entire time about everything." The next day, he filed a police report alleging a total theft of $75,000, right? So Walton's landlord shared that homegirl also was $12,000 behind in apartment payments and had delayed them further because she says she had cancer and that her disability insurance wasn't arriving on time. She was running all...

• 45:10Speaker 05

  She, my god.

• 45:12Laci Mosley?

  So where was the money for rent going? Because remember, he, he helped her with an eviction lawyer, quote unquote, $2,000.

• 45:18Speaker 05

  Well, that's how she had that expensive shoes and shit. She was just buying stuff.

• 45:23Laci Mosley?

  She just can't buy shoes.

• 45:25Speaker 05

  She's funny.

• 45:26Laci Mosley?

  I love her. They were like, "Ma'am, we're gonna put you in the street." She was like, "Okay, but I really need these Louboutins."

• 45:32Laci Mosley?

  Also, my cancer hurts right now, so I can't...

• 45:35Speaker 05

  My cancer hurts so bad. I better go buy a shoe, that's the cure.

• 45:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I can't actually talk about this right now because, "Ooh, that was my cancer." Okay, so I'm gonna close the door now. Bye-bye. So background checks revealed that she'd also been charged with writing bad checks, fraud in Tennessee, in Florida, uh, grand theft, among other counts. She was also doing San Andreas.

• 45:59Speaker 05

  I love her.

• 46:00Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Um, and then the jury found that Smith was guilty of grand theft and sentenced her, uh, to five years in jail. So this is on top of the 180 days that she got from robbing her former employment. She did end up having to go to jail for robbing her homeboy. And man, there's a lot to unpack there that we just don't have time to unpack. You guys unpack it in your cars.

• 46:22Laci Mosley?

  Wherever you are. But, uh, this Irish woman is a queen.

• 46:26Speaker 05

  I love her.

• 46:27Laci Mosley?

  She was so fun.

• 46:28Speaker 05

  That's it, that's, like, over the course of four years, you stole $80,000? That's pretty good. That's 20 a year. That's nice, tax-free, that is $20,000 a year. That's like, pretty decent. And I'm sure that's not the only scam she was running on people.

• 46:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, obviously not. She had the cancer rent scam. She had grand theft. She had, like, her whole life was a grift.

• 46:51Speaker 05

  She doing it, she doing big things.

• 46:53Laci Mosley?

  So, for Scammer of the Week, we just want to highlight a king, a Floridian, a Florida man. You know, um, if you really just want trash, if you really just want... And I can say that, I lived in Florida. It's okay for me to say that. A Florida man bought a $140,000 Porsche with a check that he printed from home on his computer.

• 47:12Laci Mosley?

  I don't even know how people think of stuff like this.

• 47:16Speaker 05

  But also, the dealership was like, "Ah, looks right."

• 47:22Speaker 05

  What, how, what?

• 47:23Laci Mosley?

  Look, times are hard. They trying to sell these motherfucking Porsches. They say anybody want to come in here.

• 47:28Speaker 05

  I guess so.

• 47:29Laci Mosley?

  Forty-two-year-old Casey William Kelly, oh, I love that he has three first names. That's what I'm talking about. Robbery, was charged with a grand theft of a motor vehicle and uttering a false bank note, according to the Walton County Sheriff's Office. He allegedly handed over a cashier's check that he printed from his home computer to buy the car. The car was later reported stolen to Okaloosa County Sheriff's Office. So he, so also, we just talked about in the last story, like, you do a cashier's check, that's as good as cash, pretty much, if it looks real.

• 47:57Speaker 05

  If it looks legit?

• 47:58Laci Mosley?

  So this is what he did. Um, shortly after purchasing the German luxury car, authorities say that Kelly then attempted to buy three Rolex watches. He was gonna let it ride. He said, "Where my printer at? Get the inkjet."

• 48:10Speaker 05

  That's so funny. That is so fucking funny.

• 48:14Laci Mosley?

  He handed over a fraudulent check for sixty-one thousand dollars to a jeweler. However, the jeweler kept the watches until they could determine if the check would clear. See, because jewelry, you know, obviously, he's a white man.

• 48:26Speaker 05

  People don't fuck with jewelry, because jewelry goes up in value sometimes.

• 48:31Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 48:31Speaker 05

  So like, like a vintage Rolex, those go for like a, like a ton of cash, so.

• 48:36Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 48:36Speaker 05

  Smart on them. But also with the car, I would have done a lease. I would have given them a fake address. I would have done, I mean, you probably would have had to put some money down, so you get the fraudulent check for that, give them a dummy address, and then never park the car near your house and be like, "I don't know what you're talking about."

• 48:53Laci Mosley?

  That's a good one, because then it's also like, they might contact you, like, "Oh, this check didn't go through, but you, we got this lease set up, we got all your info," and then you could drive it around for longer. He just straight up was like, stealing it.

• 49:05Speaker 05

  Okay, now I have the perfect plan. Okay, so, we get a fake driver's license with your picture, different name, different address, because I don't think they do any sort of background checks. So if you can make fraudulent checks, write that check for the down payment on the lease. How will they get to you? They can't, they can't find you. And then the bank is on the hook, because when you lease a car, the bank buys the car, you pay the bank. So you are literally out of it.

• 49:34Laci Mosley?

  Everyone, go out there and print your cashier's check. Emmy-nominated Nicole Byer has taught you how to do this scam. Uh, that was her TED Talk. It was free, uh, for you and for me. Uh, I, I just, I think also the jeweler probably caught on, because jewelers deal with criminals all the time. Like, criminals love jewelry. Like, that's their go-to thing.

• 49:58Speaker 05

  And you're buying three Rolexes for what?

• 50:00Laci Mosley?

  For what? For why? For how? So, you know what? But shout out to a three-first-name king, Casey William Kelly, because I don't even know how you thought to print out a cashier's check at your home. Probably been sitting inside too long. Coronavirus, she was like, "I could print out a cashier's check from my home."

• 50:17Speaker 05

  Or maybe he saw Catch Me If You Can, that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio running all them scams, and he was like, "I can do that, I'm cute."

• 50:23Laci Mosley?

  Listen, and he, he did, and did. He did get the car off the lot, so I'm proud of this king.

• 50:28Speaker 05

  Uh, me too.

• 50:30Laci Mosley?

  We have reached the end of the show, Nicole.

• 50:33Speaker 05

  Lacey, thank you so much for having me back. Honestly, it's just a treat to talk to you.

• 50:37Laci Mosley?

  It is. Thank you for being here. Seriously, wait, where do you want to be found?

• 50:43Speaker 05

  Um, hopefully engaged with a nice man. Uh, no, you can find me on Instagram, Twitter, at Nicole Byer. I have other podcasts, Why Won't You Date Me, Best Friends, Ninety Day Ban, Patreon, Drag Her with Mono Agapi, where we talk about Drag Race newcomers, with Lauren Lapkus, where now we are watching Lord of the Rings, and good fucking lord, that movie's a scam. They're too fucking long. They should have been broken up. Uh, but yeah, you can just, oh, and I have a book, Very Fat, Very Brave. It's a self-help guide for fat women, but if you're a thin and you have low self-esteem, I guess, maybe you'll help. I don't know.

• 51:17Laci Mosley?

  What a sales pitch there. And if you're thin and you hate yourself, no, no, no, no, no.

• 51:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, I can, I can help you, you thin, self-hating bitch. No, I'm kidding.

• 51:27Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, no. But, but, but it's a good book for just confidence in general.

• 51:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, and it's got like little comebacks if someone insults you. The main takeaway of the book, I'll just tell you, I'd prefer if you bought it, is like, if someone says something about your body, it means you're powerful, because that person had to stop their day to tell you something, and you never thought once about them.

• 51:48Laci Mosley?

  Yes! I love that. Yes, guys, very fat, very brave, every, oh my god, all the things. You have so many podcasts. Uh, as always, guys, email us, [email protected]. Snitch on your friends, your family, and yourself. Um, if you want to find me, D I V A L A C I D, Velaci, on all platforms. If you want to support a black queen out there, okay, if you want to do your activism for today, like, uh, wait, I was about to say like and subscribe, but it's on YouTube. Uh, subscribe to our show, give me five-star reviews, um, and, and talk about how, uh, lovely of a human being that I am. That's how you can help me. And then, and then you helped a black person today. You get to go to bed, like, mm, I did it.

• 52:28Speaker 05

  I did something.

• 52:30Laci Mosley?

  All right, congregation.

• 52:31Speaker 05

  Thank you, Lacey.

• 52:33Laci Mosley?

  Stay scheming.

• 52:38Speaker 07

  This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Sisneros, and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

• 52:58Speaker 07

  Hola a todos. Soy Jamie Lynn Sigler. Cuando me diagnosticaron, tenía veintitantos años, y todo mi mundo cambió por completo. Pero con el tiempo decidí que no iba a permitir que eso frenara mi vida. Quise tomar las riendas, y después de hablar con mi médico sobre mis opciones, la elección para mí fue obvia. Boom! Eso es KISSIMTA. Obtenga más información sobre KISSIMTA o fotomap en kissimta.com.

• 53:28Speaker 05

  Okay, laundry stinks, literally. I mean, you could just keep buying new underwear. Not that I've ever done that. Or maybe sort your clothes into piles based on how re-wearable or filthy they are. Or just use Arm & Hammer Deep Clean. It's made for real-life stinks and stains. So even if you don't do laundry the quote "right way," Deep Clean will knock it out. I mean, it is from the number-one liquid detergent brand that tackles more loads than any other. Come clean with Arm & Hammer Deep Clean. Number-one claim based on total wash loads sold. Latte for Keenan?

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• 54:05Speaker 05

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• 54:06Speaker 01

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• 54:07Speaker 05

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• 54:15Speaker 05

  Cool. Enjoy.

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