LinkedIn Founder: Double Your Income With AI Before It's Too Late | Reid Hoffman

Reid Hoffman co-founded LinkedIn, was an early investor in OpenAI, and has backed more AI companies than most people can name. In this episode he says we're only 5% into the AI revolution — and explains exactly what the next 95% means for your career, your business, and your income. Topics covered: Why we're only 5% into the AI boom — and what's actually comingAI basics every non-technical person needs to know right nowRole-based prompting: the technique that changes how you think with AIThe fastest way to double your income in 2026 (with a 9-to-5)The $300B SaaS crash: why AI is breaking the software business modelWill we lose jobs to AI in 2 years? The honest answerWhy small businesses might actually beat big companies in the AI eraWhat markets will explode in the AI eraOne thing to do before February 2027 to not fall behind 📌 Follow newsletter and grab FREE 300+ post ideas to stand out on Linkedin: https://siliconvalleygirl.beehiiv.com/reid-hoffman-300post-ideas 🎧 More from the Silicon Valley Girl: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/siliconvalleygirl/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/siliconvalleygirl/ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@SiliconValleyGirl⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@SiliconValleyGirl LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linkedin.com/in/marinamogilko⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/marinamogilko/

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• 0:55Marina Mogilko?

  We've seen Claude releasing this 200-line code that brought the B2B market down. We lost $300 billion of market value.

• 1:03Speaker 03

  All of that is literally just beginning, but is all line of sight.

• 1:07Marina Mogilko?

  This is Reid Hoffman, co-founder of LinkedIn, legendary investor who was among the first to see every major tech wave coming. And what he's saying now should concern anyone with a career.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  There aren't individual contributing workers anymore that we all deploy with a set of AIs.

• 1:24Marina Mogilko?

  So what do I do? What do people like me do?

• 1:26Speaker 03

  Even most people who say, oh yeah, I'm using AI, are not using it seriously enough.

• 1:30Marina Mogilko?

  You've been mentioning this a lot. Everyone will have a set of agents working for them. Is it possible now? Or we're still not quite there yet?

• 1:37Speaker 03

  It's totally possible now.

• 1:39Marina Mogilko?

  So for someone who has a nine-to-five job, what's the first thing they should do to double their income this year?

• 1:44Speaker 03

  Oh, that's interesting. But maybe the simplest one is.

• 1:48Marina Mogilko?

  And I'm so very excited that we're talking again a year later. So we can revisit some of the things that you said last year. It's been a crazy year.

• 1:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:55Marina Mogilko?

  And I see chat GPT everywhere. People are using different tools to build their own things. Is this the AI boom? Or is it like 10% of what we're going to see?

• 2:06Speaker 03

  Maybe 5%.

• 2:08Marina Mogilko?

  5%?

• 2:09Speaker 03

  Yeah. Obviously, the last couple of years, people have been talking about it a lot. And one of the things we should get you, and we'll figure out how to get to you. But like, I actually made an AI Christmas record. You know, kind of AI music I'd want to see around Christmas. And it's just beginning to scratch what these kind of possibilities are because, by the way, I'm not qualified to make a record. You know, I have none of the skills, but with AI you can do that. And so what I think people are under tracking is they're seeing, of course, the general discussion of codex and Claude code and other things. And they're not realizing how that spreads out to every portion of of kind of human work and creativity. That it isn't just, oh, we all have a software agent

• 2:52Speaker 03

  as our co-pilot doing stuff for us. Yes, that'll be true too. But that the coding capabilities are like generalized reasoning capabilities that then enable a bunch of things. They enable you to say, well, you know what? I've always wanted for for someone working with me as a travel agent, as someone who really understood, you know, my love of particular kinds of archaeology. Could you then be the travel agent that figured out like where and what and da, da, da, and could possibly book things and all like all of that is literally just beginning, but is all line of sight. So I think we're literally like, for example, we're a small in number of years by which we realize something I've been saying for the last couple,

• 3:35Speaker 03

  which is there aren't individual contributing workers anymore that we all deploy with a set of AIs. Like, for example, almost for sure, when we're doing this conversation, let's just project next year since we did last year.

• 3:49Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 3:50Speaker 03

  We'll have you like your tablet will have an AI agent that's going, oh, ask him about this. Or when he said this, do this, or you know, da, da, da, da, like, like that kind of thing will be amongst what we're doing. That's the reason why I'm like, not 10%, maybe 5%, maybe 2%.

• 4:07Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 4:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:08Marina Mogilko?

  And you said in our last interview that we have around two years to adapt. So as someone non-technical, I want to start adapting. So what do I do if I'm a creator, a salesperson, a marketer? What are the steps that I can take today?

• 4:21Speaker 03

  Well, table stakes is if you're not already interacting with.

• 4:26Speaker 03

  You know, call it the easy AI agents, the chatbots today. And in a substantive way, and I don't just mean that as a substantive way of like, so for example, you're like, you're thinking, okay, how do I take my podcast and kind of media to the next level? What are the things I should consider? What are the different kinds of ideas for it? Or I'm a travel, I'm traveling to this fun place. What should I do there? All this stuff. But like, for example, some, what I mean by basics is in prompting, you don't just go, oh, I type in seven words and see what I get. One of the things I think is key now is being voice billed, which is speak to it. We speak a lot faster and it's actually much, much better if you just throw out lots of things.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  But even in speaking to it, like one of the things that I'll do when I'm interacting with, with, you know, various AI agents is I'll say, really interested in what are the prospects of fusion technology? Which company is doing really interesting things? Have new things come from labs? You know, da, da, da, da. Now, write me the right prompt to do all the research for that.

• 5:29Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 5:29Speaker 03

  Even when I do voice, well, because then it comes back with a two-page prompt and I run the two-page prompt and then I get something very interesting. So that's what I mean. That's I describe as basic. That's

• 5:39Marina Mogilko?

  Okay, this is basic.

• 5:40Speaker 03

  That's basic.

• 5:41Marina Mogilko?

  Talk to me about advanced, but without coding.

• 5:44Speaker 03

  Like one of the things that as you begin to get experience with this, you realize that these chatbot agents are very good at ascribing roles. So you might have an idea, but you say, hey, I mean, I have an interest in, let's just continue the fusion example. I have an interest in fusion for climate change and fusion for energy and what it's going to mean for AI. Let's ask that question and answer like, okay, what would a technologist say? What would a venture investor say? What would a government policy person say? What would a nuclear safety person say? And then you might even ask the, the AI, are there other roles that I haven't thought of? And then you ask it to adopt each role

• 6:25Speaker 03

  in giving you an answer. Because then you begin to realize that there's a whole lens of things. And this Thinking about AI as like a consummate, like, you know, kind of role taker is useful because even in very simple things, like you say, well, I I'd really like to argue this. Like when I'm writing, I do this. I would say, well, argue against me. Like, what's, what's, what's the thing that, that's a simple role, like be the contrarian, be the, the naysayer to what I'm saying. By the way, you can also get the, and what are the things I'm missing to argue for what I want to be?

• 6:54Marina Mogilko?

  That's a great exercise.

• 6:55Speaker 03

  Yes, yes. So, so you do all that. But then it also gets interesting when you kind of go, all right, like, for example, you say, well, hey, I'm, I'm thinking about how do I, what's the next generation of AI impacting social media, internet media, like even the question you're asking, it's a great question to go ask AI. It's like, no, you have to ask it in a way that you're prompting it to do web research. This is, this is maybe a little bit more on the slightly more advanced question is, what people don't realize is they think this is a deeply knowledgeable AI, which it is, but don't realize it's training run finished 18 months ago. So it's actually 18 months out of date in the use of AI tools,

• 7:36Speaker 03

  right? So when you're asking a question like, oh, which AI tools, you actually have to ask it a research question. You have to say, go look at, pull a whole bunch of information. It's like G P D five point two thinking mode.

• 7:50Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 7:51Speaker 03

  Pull in information and give me a report on it. Because if you're relying on just the information on the model, its view of something that we're being 18 months out of date is a problem, is a problem.

• 8:03Marina Mogilko?

  Can you evaluate my setup? For example, I have a notion where we have the whole operations have 35 people in my team. We log every episode, we have a transcript, and then we have Claude projects for every social media that we're running, which has access to performance data scripts. It acts like a strategist. So we gave it instructions. So it knows what our goals are. Do you think it's easy, medium, or advanced?

• 8:27Speaker 03

  I would say that's probably medium.

• 8:29Marina Mogilko?

  Medium, okay.

• 8:30Speaker 03

  So part of it is you've got Claude agents with assigned roles on a, you know, kind of constant, like, you know, an active part of the process, not one off.

• 8:42Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 8:42Speaker 03

  So that takes you from easy to medium.

• 8:44Marina Mogilko?

  Okay, great.

• 8:45Speaker 03

  Now, on advanced, you probably want to say, well, what are the additional skills and what pulls from other sorts of data might be useful? Like, should we have one that's kind of going, for example,

• 8:59Speaker 03

  Talk to all the agents or all the projects and say, is there through lines? Like, what can we derive from what's working, what's not working? Are there through lives that can give us good ideas for things we should be doing in the next month or two? Right? Like, kind of doing almost like the meta of it would be one thing. And meta, both internal data, but also external data.

• 9:19Marina Mogilko?

  Like how other broadcasters.

• 9:20Speaker 03

  Yes. And you might go, this one did this really interesting thing with, and I'm just choosing a random one, CryptoPunks, and we could do something with that, right? Like that kind of thing, like.

• 9:30Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah, gathering ideas from other fields for you.

• 9:33Speaker 03

  Right. And that, that would be the, because, because again, part of it is, think about the AI agents as intelligence that scales, processes information with basically the price of electricity. The, you know, price of compute, but price of computing electricity. Well, that means it's like in, in the vectors where you can give it instructions, you don't want it to spend infinitely. You could obviously easily spend $200,000 on AI processing that's not useful. That is not useful. But in anything where it's kind of bounded into a vector that's useful, you go, well, actually, in fact, spending even call it $10,000 doing a bunch of compute could suddenly give you 15 different useful things.

• 10:19Speaker 03

  And that's easily valuable.

• 10:21Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah. So for someone who's listening, who has a nine to five job doing 80K, and they're like, okay, how do I use it to double my income this year? What would you say?

• 10:30Speaker 03

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 10:36Speaker 03

  Doubling income is an interesting question.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  Partially because, but maybe the simplest one is everyone who is running businesses that they're investing in knows that they have a massive need for AI transformation and AI talent. So part of it is to start demonstrating your engagement and knowledge with AI in ways that you're easily findable. Because, you know, whether it's through LinkedIn or through social media platforms or else, like literally people are like, we're looking for this because we know we need this transformation. And so I think a whole, the lucrative jobs won't just be the super high price. Like, oh, we need AI researchers. But like, we're literally now, I think this year is when we really begin to see more of the applications.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  So like, how do I run my business better? How do I do like my analysis of my supply chain? Or my financial analysis? Or my risk analysis? Or my marketing? Or my sales? How do I do any of that stuff better? And they're gonna start looking at it. And sure, they'll go to some other internal people. But everyone's gonna start going, well, I've been doing this job and adopting the jumping to the totally new thing is hard for me. So part of it is like, okay, start jumping to the new thing.

• 11:53Marina Mogilko?

  Love it. So basically, the business idea or the doubling of my idea, you get proficient in tools in some area and go help other companies.

• 12:01Speaker 03

  And demonstrate it, yes.

• 12:02Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 12:02Speaker 03

  And demonstrate it.

• 12:03Marina Mogilko?

  Because I feel like we're also in a bubble, right? We're in Silicon Valley, everyone's using AI. And then you travel abroad and be like, what?

• 12:08Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 12:09Marina Mogilko?

  What, what GPT?

• 12:10Speaker 03

  Well, yes, with really interesting asterisks. So like, for example, I think it was about 18 months ago. I was talking to a friend of mine who was traveling in Morocco. And the taxi driver, who didn't speak English, was making their whole business work because they were just using ChatGPT as a translator. So literally, it was just like.

• 12:28Marina Mogilko?

  People are figuring it out.

• 12:29Speaker 03

  Yes, exactly.

• 12:30Marina Mogilko?

  It's just a beginner's stage.

• 12:31Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 12:32Marina Mogilko?

  But then you need to become medium and advanced. Talk to me as an entrepreneur. So I built a company and I've been building this business since 2011, helping people learn languages, study abroad. But from what I'm seeing right now with these systems getting more and more advanced, Codex can now do the taste thing, right? That we thought is irreplaceable. And then we've seen Claude releasing this 200-line code that brought the B2B market down. We lost $300 billion of market value. Is this the end of B2B software? Or like, what's going on?

• 13:04Speaker 03

  What it was, markets tend to, over time, are very good measurement devices, but like can do crazy short-term things. Short-term long, short-term low, short-term high. They can do both, right? Because they, they kind of don't know how to absorb something. And part of what the transformation of the kind of called SaaS, B2B software market is, the way it used to run is, I would build something, you know, kind of valuable like Salesforce. And in building Salesforce, it would take, you know, ultimately I'd add in so many features because one feature for company one, one feature for company two, three features for company three, da, da, da, but having them all there that for someone who wanted to compete with me, they'd have to spend a billion dollars just to create the

• 13:49Speaker 03

  product to start the sales thing against me. And even then, the problem is that sales is a very hard thing because what Salesforce says will be here forever. Do you want to switch your mission critical system to the new provider who sure, they said a billion dollars building a product, but are they going to be still be here or not? So it's very hard to do. And that's the economics that created SaaS as a valuable business category because then Salesforce, because it was hard to get competition in, could charge, I don't know what their actual sales margin, but let's call it 40%, you know, margins, and that could allow them to kind of reinvest in their business and everything else. Now with AI coding, it's like, well, actually, in fact, like I'm company four and they had these two features that I didn't want. I didn't want all of them.

• 14:30Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 14:31Speaker 03

  And there was another feature that wasn't in there or now two features weren't even in there that I really wanted. Now it might just be more economical for me to to kind of maintain my own system in AI because generating and maintaining and evolving the software is is so much cheaper.

• 14:45Marina Mogilko?

  It is.

• 14:46Speaker 03

  Right?

• 14:46Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 14:46Speaker 03

  One counterpoint, because everyone's like, oh, software engineers are getting out jobs. No, they're not because they're going to be employed everywhere. Like the grocery store is going to be employing software engineers and these things. Like, like you still need to think about this. Like you say, I want to have a CRM system. You can't go to an AI and go, give me a CRM system.

• 15:04Marina Mogilko?

  No, what about two years?

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Well, maybe eventually, but like, for example, part of, I have confidence that for a number of years, and maybe it's a shorter than I would believe, the human plus the AI will be much better. Right? Like when you're understanding, like, for example, you know, Sarah or Bob is walking around, they're looking at how we use the CRM system and are like, oh, but this would be a good idea. The AI doesn't really have that ability to walk around and do it. It'll have ability to do internet research and bring that in, which is really useful as per earlier comments. But that's the reason why I think the combo will be useful. And that's the reason why I think software engineers will have jobs for a while because it's a way of thinking about it. Now, how a software engineer operates is already starting to change.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  Like as opposed to the, oh, I'm sitting down and typing code. It's like, well, actually, in fact, I've got 20 coding agents that I'm managing through voice going, generate this, generate this, cross check this, do that. Like I'm more of a conductor than I am a violin player or a piano player, right? Is kind of the, as thing, and that is changing. People be surprised at how much room there is in the business world for conductors.

• 16:13Marina Mogilko?

  Okay. But so I've heard this a lot on social media and I feel like I'm kind of starting to believe that we only have a few years to make money as small business entrepreneurs because then it's going to be taken away by large models. Do you agree with that?

• 16:29Speaker 03

  Well, I do think that we're going to see a sea of content creation by AI.

• 16:39Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  And, you know, people say, wow, but people don't want that. They want only human. It's like, well, there will be a persistent demand for human. That's good. By the way, just like there's elevator music, you know, music in elevators and so like, there's lots of things out there. The people are not like, well, I'm really looking to make sure it's only a person who made that. It's just, does it fit my particular need and circumstances? Is it easily available? Is it free, cheap, not expensive, et cetera, et cetera? So there's going to be a flood of stuff. I do think that what that means for small business is, but it may be a feature of small business versus call it large businesses, which is small businesses usually tend to be able to be more adaptive because our large businesses are almost more on call it

• 17:25Speaker 03

  the industrial model, the tailor models, like we, we tuned our efficiency and we work really hard and we own these distribution channels. And we did like, you know, I love Disney, so I'm not picking on Disney, but like Disney as crazy doing it. Small businesses adopt AI. I think we'll have a lot of interesting, unique shots because of the platform transition. And so it'll be an advantage to them versus the large companies. The small businesses don't adopt AI? I think it's going to be very hard.

• 17:52Marina Mogilko?

  What would be your advice then for entrepreneurs who are building a smaller AI business, AI-based business and are afraid that two weeks, somebody releases, like with SAT prep? Cause I'm in test prep.

• 18:03Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 18:04Marina Mogilko?

  Gemini released SAT prep. I'm like, okay, my thing is Toful.

• 18:08Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 18:08Marina Mogilko?

  When is Toful coming to Gemini?

• 18:09Speaker 03

  Probably very soon, but you know, sorry to say, um, I just registered your specific question, but my guess is it's not very soon.

• 18:17Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah. So what, what do I do? What do people like me do?

• 18:20Speaker 03

  Well, I think what you do is you refactor to go, look, I realize I'm going to have to rebase my entire business on AI and AI is a dynamic changing platform. So in as much as it's not too old on AI, I got to retool. Now, part of it is okay, Toful will be available on AI platforms for entrepreneurial, or kind of call it people who want to pull it together themselves, just as they were pulling it together through Google searches, whatever else, for free. So that, so what's the things I can do that cause people to engage with me?

• 18:50Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah, what's my value at?

• 18:51Speaker 03

  Right.

• 18:52Marina Mogilko?

  Okay, build a personal brand. We're doing this.

• 18:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:54Marina Mogilko?

  Is there anything else?

• 18:55Speaker 03

  Well, that's definitely one, but it's also like, you could imagine it's like, well, actually, in fact, most of these, you know, like Gemini, Chat GPT, Claude, et cetera, will be solo experiences for a number of years. It's going to be so focused on solo experience. Well, maybe there's ways we can do group experiences and the group experiences really work. And it doesn't mean that, you know, you can't inject, you know, Chat GPT into a group experience and have it, you know, be useful, but maybe like, it's like, what are the ways that we use this trajectory? And then we are adding in something else. Cause it's not going to be like, for example, you said, well, but it could do that itself. For someone who says, I want to do it myself, sure, but people don't want to do everything themselves.

• 19:34Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 19:34Speaker 03

  One, they don't have the ideas. Two, they don't have the time. I think AI prompting is only going to slowly, like at human speeds, grow as an, like I even talked to people who are pretty expert and they go, oh, wait a minute. I was voice billed, but I wasn't doing it. Tell me the, write the prompt for me.

• 19:53Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 19:53Speaker 03

  Off it.

• 19:54Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 19:54Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 19:55Marina Mogilko?

  It takes it to the next level because of prompts like this.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  Yes, right? That kind of thing.

• 19:59Marina Mogilko?

  This is very interesting.

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• 20:43Marina Mogilko?

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• 20:49Marina Mogilko?

  So are there any industries that you think are more, so from what you're saying, like groups experience everything, I feel like offline is going to get way bigger. Just want to stay off our devices and do things. Any other markets?

• 21:02Speaker 03

  Well, offline for sure.

• 21:05Speaker 03

  I also think, like I said, we are social animals. But that's the reason why the groups are not just, you know, being one of the earliest social network people, LinkedIn, et cetera. But I think that will matter, even as these AI systems get a lot of capability. There still will be uncertainties in trust. And part of the uncertainties in trust is the incentive of the entity that's offering it versus others. And there's ways that we, and it kind of gets back to the personal, personal brand. But this head of things that kind of get to, like, how is that trust established and maintained? We're both familiar from our Silicon Valley context.

• 21:49Speaker 03

  You know, there's obviously a whole bunch of people say, everything that's done with bits is going to be completely done with AI and that's it. I'd be very surprised if that were true. Like, that would be surprising. What I think is it'll be massively transformed. So anything that's being done with bits in a particular way today will be very different in six months, 12 months, 18 months, 24 months, etc. And you have to adopt to it, adapt to it and adopt it. But I tend to think there's still, like, for example, it's like, oh, well, I shouldn't bother writing science fiction anymore. It's like, yeah, it's not clear to me. Like, I think writing science fiction could still work. But if your process of writing science fiction is I disappear for three years into a cubicle, you know, kind of typing on my

• 22:35Speaker 03

  that's gonna work.

• 22:36Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah. Okay. Do you think AI is the last human-driven revolution? And all of the next revolutions will be AI created?

• 22:50Speaker 03

  I think it's call it probability 60 to 70% that the future inventions over the next, call it 50 to 100 years, who knows after that, will be human plus AI created. It doesn't mean that there won't, like, every human doing an invention might not be actually, in fact, using AI to do it. I have some actually, you know, kind of, unfortunately, some things I can't talk about because they're confidential, but like, they will be revealed the next month around, like, physicists working with AI to do stuff. And it's not, it's not, oh, my God, we discovered what dark matter is. But solving physics problems, but it's the human plus AI together. And I think

• 23:30Marina Mogilko?

  60, 70%.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:31Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 23:32Speaker 03

  Then I think there is of like inventions. And then I think there's probably gonna be, call it another 25%, 30%, depending on where it is exactly, that is actually, in fact, primarily AI-driven, right? Over time, in part because we'll begin to kind of get zones of, oh, that's a much better problem for the AI to solve. And there might be some human checking in, but it won't even be that depth of being a conductor. It'd be more like cross-checking the, hey, you know, or does this make sense? Or can I spend $10 million doing the compute to analyze?

• 24:11Speaker 03

  Fusion containment in the following way. You're like, well, $10 million is a lot of money. You know, if it's in today's dollars. Yeah, let's cross check it. And then I think there will be still 5%. That's still the human Eureka, like without AI.

• 24:24Marina Mogilko?

  Okay, only 5% for humans.

• 24:26Speaker 03

  Well, with unassisted, unassisted.

• 24:27Marina Mogilko?

  Unassisted, unassisted. Okay, so, sounds good. It sounds positive. Okay, my last question. It is February 2026. If you could give one piece of advice to someone watching now. What is one thing they should do before February 2027 to not get left behind?

• 24:44Speaker 03

  Well, the very central thing, a little bit like echoes what we're talking about before, is even most people who say, oh, yeah, I'm using AI are not using it seriously enough. Right, which is like, I, in everything that I do, I think about how would I use? I don't always do it because you don't always have to and certainly not now. But how would I use AI to help me do that? Or to make that happen? And it ranges everything from I'm planning a vacation in Rome to I am thinking about writing a piece. Or what's the way that I would analyze what's going on with Moltba? And the whole range.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  I think, okay, if I were going to try to use AI to really help with that, well, what might I do? And having that kind of always be a question. And it, look, it could even be the, I'm going to have a difficult conversation with my mother. Okay, think about how AI could help with that. Like, just get in the reflex. Think of it as kind of doing like just the like simple training.

• 25:50Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah, like before everything you do, just think about how you could deploy AI to people.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  And you might go, no, I'm not going to do this one. That's fine because you know, limited time and all the rest. But like be thinking about that because that is a reflex. Because literally, my belief is today, everything you do.

• 26:07Speaker 03

  AI can be helpful. Doesn't mean it's the answer. So for example, I still wouldn't go, here's the money I'm investing in AI. Just have an AI do it. I think that would be a way to lose money today. Right? I'm still doing it myself.

• 26:20Marina Mogilko?

  Yeah.

• 26:20Speaker 03

  But I also, by the way, think about like what new capabilities the AI is bringing to my ability to invest, including an AI.

• 26:28Marina Mogilko?

  Absolutely. Love it. Thank you so much. And thank you from everyone who's posting on LinkedIn. I feel like 2025 was the year of LinkedIn when we all saw tremendous growth and so many great deals. So thank you so much for creating it.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  My pleasure. Great talking to you.

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