S2E31: Peter and Laura Kane: A nonspeaker answers your questions | Talk Tracks

In this episode of Talk Tracks, Ky Dickens sits down with Peter, a nonspeaker who communicates through spelling, and his mother, Laura, to ask Peter questions submitted by our Backstage Pass listeners and hear the story of how spelling transformed their family. As Peter became an open speller, he began describing telepathy, “mind merging,” reading through his mother’s eyes, communication with other nonspeakers, spiritual encounters, and the mysterious plane many nonspeakers refer to as “the Hill.” Once told her son “wasn’t in there,” Laura describes the emotional journey of discovering Peter’s intelligence, humor, inner life, and extraordinary abilities and shares what it was like to move through disbelief, fear, awe, and acceptance as her understanding of her son and reality began to change. ________________ Join The Telepathy Tapes Backstage Pass to get ad-free episodes, never-before-heard interviews, behind-the-scenes documentary footage, and access to our private Discord community. This is your invitation to come closer. To help shape what’s next. To be more than a listener… to be a co-creator of this paradigm shift. So if you’ve felt moved, if you’ve felt seen, if you’ve felt the call—subscribe today and join us: https://thetelepathytapes.com/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:03Ky Dickens?

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• 3:00Ky Dickens?

  now available in Canada and the UK, too. And when Quince asks where you heard about them, let them know it was the telepathy tapes. It's the best way to support our show. In this episode of The Talk Tracks, we sit down with Peter, a non-speaker who communicates through spelling, and his mother Laura, to explore the extraordinary journey their family has been on over the last two years. Like many families navigating this world, Laura and her family were told that her son wasn't in there. But after being introduced to spelling, which is a typed-based communication, Peter began revealing a rich inner world that would profoundly change the way his family understood him. As Peter became an open speller, meaning his motor coordination was strong enough that he could spell out his own thoughts, he soon started sharing thoughts that surprised the family about telepathy, reading through his mother's eyes,

• 3:45Ky Dickens?

  spirituality, and knowledge exchanges on the plane that many non-speakers refer to as the Hill. It's been an extremely emotional experience for Laura and her family, and we'll take you through their journey. And then, toward the end of the episode, we'll hear Peter's answers to the questions we collected from our backstage pass listeners. So Laura and Peter, it's so nice to meet you.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's so nice to meet you, too. You're a celebrity in the speller's family world.

• 4:11Ky Dickens?

  That's so nice. And where are you both located?

• 4:14Speaker 01

  We're in Columbia, South Carolina, the capital of South Carolina.

• 4:18Ky Dickens?

  OK, wonderful. And Peter, how old are you?

• 4:21Speaker 01

  He's 16. He'll be 17 in May.

• 4:24Ky Dickens?

  Oh, my gosh, teenager.

• 4:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:26Ky Dickens?

  Well, for the audience at home, you know, Peter is a non-speaker and he types to communicate. And he took time to answer many of the submitted questions that were on our Backstage Pass. But before we get into those, it would be great to hear more from you, Laura, about how this journey began and how it is that Peter can now communicate.

• 4:43Speaker 01

  So we started in the spring of 2024. Peter was 14 at the time, and a friend of mine from church sent me a link to a Facebook post about a man and his son who had a communication breakthrough using letter boards. And I followed the link and it led me to the documentary Spellers, the movie. And it took a while for me to process that. And then something compelled me to start doing some research.

• 5:07Ky Dickens?

  And I just want to pause super quick because, you know, when you saw the Spellers movie, which for those at home, follows a group of non-speakers who learn to spell to communicate by typing out their thoughts, you know, what were your thoughts? Like, did you believe that could even be true for Peter or were you in denial?

• 5:22Speaker 01

  I was one of the people that was like, oh, that's great for them. It's not going to work for Peter. We've tried everything. And I was in a mind frame that this is it. This is how our life is going to be. But then something told me to just look it up. I'm a medical librarian by trade. I'm retired now. And so, you know, I'm good at finding articles. So I did some research and I discovered that there was an event called the Immersion Week. It was going to be in Tampa, Florida, and it's basically intensive event where you have several spelling sessions and several motor planning sessions every day for five days. So this is where the first emotional hurdle is, you know, fear and doubt. People in our situation often are fearful of having hope.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  Peter had speech therapy, occupational therapy, physical therapy, ADA, music therapy, everything. You're afraid to open your heart to that hope again, only to have it dashed to the ground.

• 6:15Ky Dickens?

  And I, that, just to zero in on that more, because for people who haven't lived through it, It's like you in the beginning are like, okay, this is gonna work and you get all excited and then it doesn't. And it's like, you can only take that a few times, right? And then you just kind of put a wall around it being like, okay, nothing's gonna work.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:31Ky Dickens?

  Safer.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, Peter had speech therapy for eight years and he's never spoken a single word. And everybody was like, you have to do speech therapy, you have to do ABA, you have to do OT. Well, he maybe got a little bit of benefit from those therapies, but not significant. And then there was the fear of the failure. I emailed the administrators of Speller's Clinic in Tampa and asked, what if my son can't spell? And she replied, this never happened before. And I feel guilty and ashamed to say this, but I literally thought, okay, Peter's gonna be the first who can't even spell. I guess the joke's on me, but I had doubt because in addition to all of this, as I said, I was doing research and I found all those articles

• 7:12Speaker 01

  that talked about these powerful agencies, ASHA and ABA, that call the use of letterboards harmful.

• 7:19Ky Dickens?

  And for those of you who don't know, ASHA is the American Speech Language Hearing Association, and ABA stands for Applied Behavior Analysis, which tends to be the big therapy that most people with autism are put into. And both groups tend to be adamantly against spelling on letterboards. But I do need to just insert something here, and I think it's really important to disclose this. There's just an article published in Psychology Today in May of 2026 that noted autism intervention research, 78% of the authors held conflicts of interest. So they're either being paid by ABA providers or ABA consultants. And I mean, this could be like an entirely different episode. But when it comes to disregarding spelling, I just encourage people who are interested to follow the money. You know,

• 8:02Ky Dickens?

  if there's a financial loss to the ABA industry, if more than, you know, a million non-speaking kids learn to spell instead of going to ABA therapy, it might explain why the majority of research done in this space was found to have a conflict of interest. Okay, anyway, so I digress. So you heard that ASHA and ABA were adamantly against letterboards. They banned them from use. And I read all of this and I was like, well, how can I justify this with a scientific person? But something led me-

• 8:30Speaker 01

  To keep going. If we didn't do it, we would regret it.

• 8:34Ky Dickens?

  Just like reading those articles, I think, can really stop parents. So what were some of the things that like were the headlines that were maybe keeping you up at night or going through your head?

• 8:44Speaker 01

  Some of the things where they say it's not the client or the speller doing the talking, or somebody's influencing what they're saying, or it's not real, or it's a trick, that there is no proof, no evidence-based studies on this. And you can't implement something that's not evidence-based, blah, blah, blah. And I know all about evidence-based studies because I worked in a medical library for 32 years. So those were red flags to me. And also, we have two older sons and our middle son was still living at home. And he read the articles as well. And he was like, Mom, you can't do this. It's bad. It's not science. But there was something that was compelling me to go. So we went. Okay.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  The very first day of this clinic, we were slammed with shock and disbelief because he was spelling words like carnivore, snowboard, milkshake, ocean, honey badger. And we fell out of our chairs.

• 9:39Ky Dickens?

  Maybe just paint that scene for us. So you walk into this room. There's other first-time spellers and parents. Probably everyone's feeling the same way.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  We had a meeting with all the parents and families. We're taken into, you know, a little classroom with a spelling practitioner. And so it was Peter sitting in a chair by the spelling practitioner and me and Patrick, my husband, sitting behind them. So we could see what he was doing. And at the very beginning, when the practitioner spoke to him one-on-one and she was like, Hi, Peter. It's nice to meet you. I know you're in there. 100% believe in you. I know you can do this. You're smart. And I'm like, nobody's ever said that to him. I've never even said that to him. I mean, now I have, but that was gut-wrenching for us. And we were like, wow. And the practitioner would read a spelling lesson, which was basically a little story. And then she would ask questions related to the paragraph.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  And so she started off by asking him to spell some of the words. So she would say, okay, spell honey badger. And she would hold up the alphabet divided into three stencil boards.

• 10:41Ky Dickens?

  What you mean by the three boards is that when people are starting, instead of 26 letters on one board, they might have six letters really big.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Right. They're like three inches tall. So it's A through F and then G through L and then M through Z or whatever. So it's basically the alphabet divided into three big stencil boards. And so you're using gross motor skills instead of fine motor skills at this point. And she would hold up the appropriate board and he would point to the letters. And in that way, he was able to show us that he could spell, obviously carnivore, honey badger, that kind of thing. But even that was just so incredible to us because he was clearly going to each letter on his own, very little coaching. And then she started asking him questions that were not covered in the lesson. And she asked him, what does a pescatarian eat?

• 11:32Speaker 01

  And he spelled fish. We could not believe it because we were like, okay, wait a minute. Okay, he can spell. And then also he knows this. And then she asked him, what was the capital of California? And he spelled Sacramento. We didn't even know that. We're from the East Coast. That. And then what's the capital of Illinois? He spelled Springfield. We didn't know that either. It was just incredible. And then he really blew us away when he was asked, name a person in history who was famous for having a dream. And he spelled out Martin Luther King Jr. We were just kind of in shock. You know, at the end of each day, I would go and text my sons and my family and say, oh, my gosh, you'll never believe this.

• 12:14Ky Dickens?

  Yeah.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  And we learned that all of this has been in there and he's been absorbing information all of his life. Like all the stories we've heard from all the non speakers, that they're so full of knowledge. It was just incredible. We were on a high.

• 12:27Ky Dickens?

  What did your one son say, or your family members that were disbelieving? Were they like thinking that you were just wishful thinking? Or were they?

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Well, I, you know, my, my middle son is very quiet, very reserved. He just didn't really say much. He was still doubtful. My older son was super excited. And then when we got home from Tampa, we hit the ground running. We started doing spelling every day. And within a couple of months, he moved from the three boards to the 26 letter board stencil. So you're slowly going from gross motor. Eventually you'll hit fine motor skills. So then we had amazement, excitement and discovery. And there seemed to be no limit to what he knew. We'd be doing a lesson on astronomy and he would tell me, you know, the planets and the moons around the planets or the elements of chemical charts.

• 13:16Speaker 01

  And I mean, pretty much any subject that we covered. He not only could answer questions that were covered in the lesson, but also what are called prior known questions. So he showed us that he's been learning and not only high school level stuff, but it seemed to me that it was beyond that. Like, how could he know all this stuff?

• 13:36Ky Dickens?

  Eventually, did you ask him how he knew everything?

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. Maybe about six months after we started, Peter began answering those open-ended questions. And he would say things like, you know, I've been absorbing information all my life. And also, you know, later on down the line, when we learned all this, you know, amazing stuff about him, he says he learns things from the hill.

• 13:58Ky Dickens?

  And just to interject for people who are new to this. So becoming open means that Peter can answer questions that don't have to do with the material that they're studying or the lesson plan. And the reason being open doesn't just happen immediately is because learning to point to the letters on a letter board takes motor control and motor planning that someone has to basically learn from scratch. So while you're learning that motor planning, it's just kept easy, right? Like fill in the blank type questions. Okay. So anyway, Laura, once you could ask him anything, what was that like?

• 14:27Speaker 01

  When he became open, we just started to see almost a whole new person. It was like we were meeting him for the first time and we've discovered he's got a sense of humor and he's pretty witty and of course, super smart. That seems to be a common denominator.

• 14:44Ky Dickens?

  And what were some of the things he said? Do you remember?

• 14:46Speaker 01

  Um, you know, some things were kind of sad, like when he was in school, when he was very young, he wanted to talk to people and nobody would talk to him. And, you know, he was trying to talk to them in his head and he didn't understand why they weren't answering him. Basically, the fact that, you know, he wanted people to know that he was smart and nobody ever realized how smart he was until, until finally now.

• 15:10Ky Dickens?

  So I think in your initial email to me, you said that, you know, as he started typing out his thoughts, he started saying things that were kind of off the grid for your baseline of what is possible or what could be, you know, almost like science fiction and what could be real. So what were some of those things that started to take you off guard?

• 15:28Speaker 01

  You know, a couple of times during our spelling sessions, these strange things would happen. But culminating event was, we were doing a lesson on astronomy and I asked a question from the lesson. And in my head, I had the answer as optical mirror, but the actual answer was optical telescope. And to answer the question, Peter spelled optical mirror, which is what I had in my head. And then I realized what had happened and I said, Peter, why didn't you just spell that? And that's when he spelled, I can hear your thoughts. And I was like, what? I don't understand. What? How is that possible? And then he spelled, I hear frequencies.

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• 16:53Speaker 01

  At that point, I went to talk to Patrick and I was like, Peter just said he can hear my thoughts. So the two of us went back into the room and we're like, Peter, did you just say that? And he nodded his head. And I was like, can we test it? And Patrick's like, no, don't test it. But Peter nodded. So I was like, okay, what color am I thinking of? And I was thinking of yellow and he spelled Y E. But then he got really agitated and I was like, okay, we'll come back to this later. So at the end of the lesson, I said, earlier he said he could hear my thoughts. Can we try it? He nodded. And I said, okay, what word am I thinking? And he spelled A M O R E, which is amore, which is love in Italian. I speak Italian. And that was the word I was thinking.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  You know, I couldn't process that. It was like, what is happening? I did more tests, like I would think of words and he would spell them. I got a random word generator on my phone and I'm not showing him anything. And he would spell whatever I was thinking. I even asked my sister who lives in Augusta about all of this during that time. And I was like, can you text me a phrase or something? And so she would text me phrases. One of them was the early bird gets the worm. And I would look at it in a different room, leave my phone there and then go in their spelling room and say, Peter, what did Maria text me? And he would spell the early bird gets the worm. Or it is always springtime in the heart that loves God. That was one of the quotes. Hundred percent no mistakes.

• 18:17Ky Dickens?

  And I understand all of this was happening before the telepathy tapes was ever out. But had you heard rumblings about telepathy in the non-speaking community or from any parents or coaches prior to this?

• 18:28Speaker 01

  I had not. This was August of 2024. And I was dealing with fear and disbelief and frustration because if this was true, what was happening and were we alone? And how could I believe this is ridiculous? I'm a librarian. But by the end of that month, I had started reading Katie Asher's book, The Book of Heaven.

• 18:48Ky Dickens?

  Katie Asher was featured in season one of The Telepathy Tapes, and she wrote about her incredible journey, also finding out that her son was not only in there, but was telepathic and had a myriad of, you know, similar spiritual gifts.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  Right. Then I felt relief because I found Katie's book. And then your podcast came out, The Telepathy Tapes, and everything that you covered in that podcast was a validation of what Peter was telling us. That was such a relief to know that we were not alone, that we were not crazy, and that he really did have this ability.

• 19:24Ky Dickens?

  Okay, and at this point, had he, you know, quote unquote, "just" told you about telepathy? Or was there anything else kind of unusual unfolding?

• 19:31Speaker 01

  At that point, it was only the mind reading. And I was like, well, does he mean just me? And then I started asking him things like that, and he would say, no, he can read anyone's thoughts. And he would communicate with the kids that go to the ABA clinic that he's with every day. And he communicates with other non-speakers. So we were dealing with another emotion, which is doubt and uncertainty, because it suddenly occurred to me that if it is true that he could hear my thoughts, did he really know the answers to all of those things that he's told us in the previous months? Like, whose words were coming out on the letterboard? And that was so hard to deal with, and it was scary. But luckily, by this time, I had built a good support group.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  So I reached out to Katie Asher, and she was giving me advice about all of that. In her spelling practice room, used the spellers method, was very supportive. And she acknowledged that many of her clients have this superpower. She calls it a superpower. And so she gave me some tips and techniques to use during spelling to help bring Peter's words out and not mine.

• 20:41Ky Dickens?

  What were her tips?

• 20:43Speaker 01

  Well, she basically was saying, I need to take up meditation, which I'm really bad at. You know, try to clear your mind, try to be calm, don't push anything, work on creative writing, that's a good way to do it. Let's write a haiku. Okay, fill in the blank and you give me a word. And some of that works.

• 21:01Ky Dickens?

  Yeah, and this is something that, you know, many parents have expressed. It's like communication is unlocked. And then you start to realize all this incredible knowledge your child has or your student has. And then all of a sudden, when the telepathy appears, it's like, oh, wait a second. You know, A, is this real? And B, if it's true, what was their thought versus my own? And then how do you make sure that what they're writing is their own words and ideas? Which, once you get to know a type, Bert, you kind of start to know which ones are yours versus theirs. And anyway, I don't know if any of that has happened to you, but I do want to ask about whether or not you ever started receiving telepathic messages in return from Peter? Because this is something that has come up a lot and kind of privately. Like, we haven't talked about it a lot on the telepathy tapes,

• 21:45Ky Dickens?

  but that so often, when a parent or coach or teacher or someone starts typing with a non-speaker, there is some sort of like telepathic link that gets opened up, where in some cases, it's not just the non-speaker who can read thoughts. It starts to happen to the parent, hearing the thoughts of their speller.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yes. One of the things I did discover was sometimes I'll ask him a question and a fully formed sentence or phrase will pop into my head, and Peter will spell that. And I asked him, is that me? Are those my words that you're taking from my head? Or are you putting them in my head and then spelling your own words? And he always says, I put it in your head first, and then I spell it.

• 22:29Ky Dickens?

  And, you know, for those phrases, how did you know that they weren't your thoughts?

• 22:33Speaker 01

  It's like in a form that I wouldn't say. Like, the phrasing is different. Some of the words are things that I wouldn't choose. Sometimes it would be something that I would think or say, but other times it'd be like, oh, I would have phrased that differently, or I don't know if I would have used that word. So he tends to have phrases that he uses for starters when he's starting a sentence. Or he'll insert ha-ha sometimes, or kind of teenager-y type things that I don't speak like that.

• 23:03Ky Dickens?

  So it's almost like what he's spelling is validating what he communicated to you telepathically first.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  Yes. So it's like, he is using his number one form of communication, but he then is stooping to my level to spell it out for me. You know, he's coming down to meet me where I'm at to have to spell it out. And I'm sure he wishes that he could just put things in my head and leave it at that. But you know, the world is not allowing that right now. So, so it goes both ways.

• 23:32Ky Dickens?

  Yeah. And I forgot where I heard this at some point, but a parent said that their son had said, my software needs to use your hardware.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  Oh, yes.

• 23:39Ky Dickens?

  And I was like, that's so interesting because like the thoughts are there, but it's like your hardware maybe I put it in her brain and then that will help me regulate and get it out. And it's like spelling is on the edge of what we can understand. And the only way to truly understand it is to understand there's something bigger going on.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Right. And it is kind of sad that they have all these abilities and yet we are forcing them to work through all of their motor challenges to spell out these thoughts that are so complex. And why can't we meet them where they are instead of them having to do the reverse with all of their challenges that they have, right?

• 24:15Ky Dickens?

  Does that happen more and more? Like if you're sitting with him now, are you able to pick up more of his thoughts?

• 24:20Speaker 01

  Um, I think I can, but I think it's strongest when we're spelling. I feel like maybe like a channel opens up when we're sitting by each other and I have the letterboard up. And I have asked him before why I have to hold the letterboard. A lot of people have questions about why you have to hold it, why you can't just like put it on the table. And he said, I need the energy from your arm. And he explained it as if it were like a circuit, like the energy from my head to my arm to the letterboard to his finger to, you know, his head. If any parts of that circuit are broken, then it's not going to work.

• 24:54Ky Dickens?

  For anyone who hasn't seen spelling in action, typically the spelling partner, in this case, you know, Peter's mom Laura, will hold the letterboard out in front of the speller. And as typers or spellers become more confident and their motor pathways develop, often they're able to just type completely independently on an iPad or even a QWERTY keyboard that's on a surface. But sometimes typers can really benefit. From a little bit of touch, I've even met typers who said as long as their communication partner is touching the same carpet as them, or even their foot is touching their chair, it helps. So the grounding thing, at least to me, is fascinating. But what is most amazing to me about what you just said is that in the Telepathy Tapes film, which we will hopefully have announcements about release date shortly, we follow a young man learning to spell,

• 25:36Ky Dickens?

  to communicate. And the incredible spelling coach, Austin, who this young man is working with, says that he's seen this over and over. There seems to be a battery circuit created between the communication regulation partner, in this case, you, the letter board that's being held by them, and then the typer who's typing. And that closed circuit creates something. It does something with grounding or energy. But I love that what Austin said, which is not available to the public at all yet, is the exact same language that Peter used to describe it. And when that happens, I just, I love it because it just kind of corroborates this mystery in a special way.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, that is really neat. And once he said that, it really made sense to me. You know, then I stopped doubting it. I was like, okay, fine. And he is on the keyboard now. He's during the acquisition phase of the keyboard. So I'm not really asking him open questions right now because he's learning the motor plan and this now fine motor skills. And you saw him, he has that constant rocking motion. So it's very hard for him to dial in on one tiny little letter on the keyboard and poke it. It's like he has to hold his breath to hold his body still in order to get that letter. But he is so determined and he's working every day.

• 26:45Ky Dickens?

  Yeah.

• 26:46Speaker 01

  But one thing he said when we started the keyboard, he said, FYI, I use your eyes for accuracy on the keyboard. And I was like, okay, I was like, are you going to always have to do this? He said, no, someday I will be independent. For now, you know, while he's learning the motor plan, he's taking the easy way out and I guess using my eyes for accuracy. And he has said that he uses my eyes for other things. Like, he's told me that he can read any book that I've ever read, he can access it from my head, even if I don't remember it, he can read it.

• 27:23Ky Dickens?

  So did that change things for you, you know, learning that he can see what you see?

• 27:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, now I'm kind of like conscious of what I watch on TV or on YouTube or whatever. Cause I'm like, oh my gosh, wait a minute. If it's adult content or whatever, I don't want him to be able to see it. But I do get the feeling that they're kind of discerning about when they tap into somebody's thoughts and minds. Like they either have to be invited or they are looking for a piece of information. So that gives me a little bit of comfort because I wouldn't want him to, you know, access every single thing that I can see. Cause there's some bad stuff in the world. So.

• 28:01Ky Dickens?

  Have there been any other instances?

• 28:03Speaker 01

  I went on a trip to Europe last October. When I came back, I was showing Peter the pictures and stuff. And he said, Mom, I saw everything you saw, the Alps, each country. I really liked Germany. It's like, okay. So he was basically saying, I don't need to see these pictures again. I've already seen everything.

• 28:23Ky Dickens?

  Oh, wow. Okay. So he tells you he can see through your eyes and access information you've seen in the past. Like what else did he share?

• 28:30Speaker 01

  Pretty much everything that was talked about on the telepathy tapes, he has validated and confirmed. You know, he said stuff about remote viewing, accessing books in my head, other people's heads. He started saying that he has friends on the hill. And he was like, yes, I talked to my friend Ben on the hill. He's my mentor and I have no idea who Ben is. So, you know, at night I can hear him in his bed. It'll be totally dark, totally silent. All of a sudden I'll hear him laughing and vocalizing, doesn't speak at all. But I can tell when he's happy, when he's excited. And the next day he'll be tired and I'll say, why are you tired? I spent too much time with my friends last night. What were you doing most of the time? He says they were learning, they teach each other.

• 29:12Speaker 01

  He, he has said that he teaches Roman history on the hill, which I just can't wrap my mind around that. But, um, so I think, you know, he's learned things from his environment and also from other non-speakers. And they share information either, you know, on the hill or. Telepathically, I think.

• 29:33Ky Dickens?

  I know for a lot of parents and teachers, certain gifts or talents seem to emerge over time. Is there anything else that Peter has shared with you that maybe you weren't expecting?

• 29:44Speaker 01

  He said that he sees angels. He says they're everywhere. The spirit world is here with us. You know, the rest of us can't see it. He, you know, talks to people who are deceased, in particular, my grandmother, who is Italian. He's never met her, and he has said a few things about her and how she prays for him in his journey. And so it occurred to me one day, wait a minute, if he can see spirits, they may not always be benign. And so I said, do spirits talk to you and try to pass messages? And he said, I'm reading from my notes, always they are saying things to me. And I said, okay, are these people we know, or are they

• 30:28Speaker 01

  strangers? He said, they are both, talking to loved ones. And I asked, how are you supposed to pass on messages? He said, I can find souls on the hill, which I interpreted to mean if he needs to pass a message to someone, he can find a non speaker or a soul on the hill and pass the message. I'm, I'm not sure. And then I said, are there any spirits that try to talk to you that are bad or have bad intentions? He said, many times, I'm trying to pray for God to help. And I said, well, what about your guardian angel? Because he's told me he has a guardian angel. I was like, does he or she help you? He said, like, all

• 31:09Speaker 01

  the time. And then I was like, well, okay, is your guardian angel male or female? And he said, can't tell. And then I said, anything else? He said, its name is Castia.

• 31:20Ky Dickens?

  Wow, that's so interesting. Okay, so now where does Peter's skeptical brother stand on all this? You know, did he come around?

• 31:26Speaker 01

  He did. He's still very reserved about it, but I had a talk with him recently, and I was like, do you believe in this or not? And he's like, I do believe, I 100% believe. He said, but it is a lot, because this was right after I told him about. What we had learned about the telepathy. So it was even hard to wrap his mind around the fact that Peter was so smart and could even spell. And now we're talking about something so beyond the realm of possibility that he was like, it's a lot. It's a lot. I was like, that's fine.

• 31:58Ky Dickens?

  Yeah.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  You don't have to believe in that stuff. You just have to support him with the spelling because that's the whole point, really, to be able to communicate. And if you don't want to learn about the telepathy or the other superpowers or spiritual gifts that they have, that's fine. But our oldest son is 100% on board. In fact, he's about to be 27 and he wants to become a communication partner for Peter. So that's really cool.

• 32:22Ky Dickens?

  It's so awesome. And for you, you know, has this changed your beliefs or how you view the world?

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Well, it's totally strengthened my belief in God and belief in life after death. It's kind of comforting and just to know that there's such a feeling of love amongst these non-speakers and how they can access that. And that's pretty much their goal to spread the love and peace, to know that this crazy world, there's more beyond what we can see and beyond this life.

• 32:51Ky Dickens?

  Remarkable. Thank you for sharing so much about your family's experience. What a wild ride. And so I know Peter's up and down, but Peter, you've spent a lot of time answering questions from our listeners who sent them in via our Backstage Pass. Laura, would you like to read his responses?

• 33:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  The first question that you had was, what advice would you give to parents whose children have just begun learning to spell? And Peter spelled, have faith in the process. I started out accelerated because of immersion week. But then he said, but for others, it is a slow journey. The speller knows if you believe they can do it. That's why it's important to practice daily and be patient. There will be times when it looks like they don't want to spell. Trust me, they do. This is life changing. One thing to stress is to stay calm.

• 33:55Ky Dickens?

  Yeah. So beautiful, Peter. Well said.

• 33:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then the next question was, what are your thoughts and desires for humanity? And Peter said, humanity is on the brink of self destruction. We have to unify to bring about a shift in spiritual awakening. I wish people could see the beauty of life like we can. If all could see, they would realize we are all the same.

• 34:19Ky Dickens?

  Wow.

• 34:20Speaker 01

  And then I said, what can we do to help with this since we're not able to see what you see? And he said, the spread of love is the strongest weapon, which I thought was really deep.

• 34:31Ky Dickens?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  The next question was, how do you experience connection or awareness beyond spoken language? And do you call it telepathy? And he said, I am able to tap into the frequency of minds. Each person has a unique mind biology and therefore a different frequency. I call it mind merging. Some people are not accessible. And I asked him, are there traits that make people's minds accessible or not accessible? And he said, it has to do with faith and fear. If someone is afraid of openness, their mind is really hard to access.

• 35:08Ky Dickens?

  So interesting.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, that is.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  And then, uh, let's see, are there spiritual insights you want to share? Uh, he spelled, the spirit world is here with us always. We need to be on guard against evil, but also open to receiving the love of angels. Always stay around good people.

• 35:28Ky Dickens?

  Hmm.

• 35:28Speaker 01

  Which is a great lesson for all of us, you know?

• 35:31Ky Dickens?

  Yeah.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  Don't hang around people who are not good.

• 35:35Ky Dickens?

  Peter, what's happening for you right now? I saw when your mom was talking about that, you started squinting real hard.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  Let's see, I've got the letter board.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  T N H N I S.

• 35:51Ky Dickens?

  Peter is spelling here and for the sake of brevity, we're going to cut to the end of the sentence.

• 35:55Speaker 01

  He spelled, "This is exciting for some of us." I'm pretty sure he means, you know, a lot of non-speakers. I did want to share one thing a while ago, I asked him, "What has been going on on the Hill lately?" He says, "So there have been some new people who bring news and things that are important to us. You need to see it." And I said, "Well, name one thing of importance that you discuss on the Hill." And he said, "We talk about angels." And I said, "Do you talk about Kai and the work she does on the telepathy tapes?" And he said, "We talk about that often." And I said, "Do you guys feel her work is doing some good?" And he said, "Yes, but there are some who take advantage of the ideas that are revealed."

• 36:40Speaker 01

  So that's pretty interesting.

• 36:42Ky Dickens?

  I'm so curious to what you mean by that, Peter, because I think it could help build some protection. Like when you say there's people taking advantage of the ideas being revealed. Can you share more about that?

• 36:54Speaker 01

  T H E R E. There are bad uses of telepathy.

• 37:01Ky Dickens?

  I am so curious about that because I do think, one thing that we get worried about, Peter, too, is like, so many people say, "Oh, I want to try to go to the Hill now." My prayer is that it's divinely protected and that you have a safe space, but the last thing I want is for the Hill to be like co-opted or gentrified.

• 37:17Speaker 01

  He has told me that there's no way that bad people could get into the Hill, that it's protected by spiritual beings, which is great to know. And I have heard that a couple of times from other spellers as well.

• 37:30Ky Dickens?

  Yeah.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  That's great.

• 37:31Ky Dickens?

  I have too. That feels so good to know that. Peter, there's so much attention right now, I think, on speakers, on their families, on spelling. That's a lot to handle, a lot to carry. Is there anything that you want people to do differently, for me to do differently, or for just the vast public to know, to do better?

• 37:52Speaker 01

  E, E, L, I. Believe in us and give us the tools we need to live happy lives.

• 38:02Ky Dickens?

  Wow, those are such great responses, Peter, and thank you both for taking the time to answer everything. I know it takes a while.

• 38:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not quick, a process getting the answers out. And so over a couple of days, he answered the questions.

• 38:16Ky Dickens?

  Right.

• 38:17Speaker 01

  Is there anything else you want to say, Kai, at this point? Yeah. E, H, A, N, K. Thank you for being our champion.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  That's sweet.

• 38:33Ky Dickens?

  Thank you, Peter. I mean, you all are, I think, ushering in a new view for the world of what it means to love and be alive, as are your parents, to teach people what unconditional love can look like.

• 38:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:45Ky Dickens?

  Is there anything else that Peter typed out he wanted to share with our listeners or that he mentioned wanting to communicate?

• 38:51Speaker 01

  He always says things like, "My life has become an adventure since I started to say my own thoughts on the letter board. I am now able to do things I couldn't before when my family had no clue what I am capable of. I'm so happy because now I'm able to feel included." And he wants to be an advocate for other non-speakers. You know, he wants people to believe in them and he wants, we've already recruited a number of families from our church and from the center where he goes daily to Start Spelling. So he's happy about that. And. I was just gonna say, I had a list of quotes from them. Basically, they're all about kindness and love. And it's pretty amazing because their whole lives, they've been underestimated, treated like they're dumb, and yet they're so forgiving. They're amazing people. And

• 39:34Speaker 01

  then he says that we are all connected, and that has made a difference in my life. We're all one, we're all connected. And it just takes small steps to move in that direction. And if everybody did just a little small step to connect with someone else and accept other people, then I think that could be life-changing. And it's kind of humbling that they are the ones that are teaching us these things.

• 39:55Ky Dickens?

  Right, yeah. And it's almost like the most powerful voices are from those who don't quote unquote have voices at all.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  I know. Pretty amazing.

• 40:03Ky Dickens?

  And to think about where your journey started, which, as you said, was filled with hopelessness and helplessness. And as we end, you know, what's the final thought you want to leave us with?

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Just acceptance and awe, because after all the doubt and uncertainty and craziness, I accept that Peter has amazing abilities beyond everything, anything we can comprehend. And I am in constant awe of him and of people like him and his friends. They all have courage, determination, they're brilliant, they have a lot of forgiveness, and they have a lot of superpowers. And most of all, they want to advocate for other non-speakers and autistics. And they want to maintain hope and just boost each other up. And I think that's amazing.

• 40:47Ky Dickens?

  It is amazing. And I feel like the best part of this work for me every day is being reminded of what love is. So, thank you for sharing your story and for being here. And Peter, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions.

• 41:00Speaker 01

  We appreciate all the work you guys are doing. It's amazing.

• 41:04Ky Dickens?

  That's it for this episode of The Talk Tracks. But new episodes will be released every Wednesday, so stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads, even the veiled ones that knit together our reality. And please remember to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind. To dive in deeper, subscribe to our Backstage Pass by visiting our website. With it, you'll unlock access to bonus content like telepathy tests, Ask Me Anything interviews with myself and guests. You'll be able to enjoy the podcast ad-free, connect with other members on our Telepathy Tribe Discord, and hear and see exclusive content from the Telepathy Tapes Vault. Visit our website at thetelepathytapes.com for more info on how to subscribe to our Backstage Pass. Thank you to my amazing collaborators.

• 41:47Ky Dickens?

  Producers Katherine Ellis and Selena Kennedy, technical directing, audio mix and finishing by Jeremy Cole, opening and closing music by Elizabeth P. W., and original logo and cover art by Ben Kandora Design. I'm Kai Dickens, your executive producer, writer, and host.