Behind the Scenes Minis: Air Conditioned Rabble Rouser

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• 2:15Holly Frey?

  Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeart Radio.

• 2:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

• 2:29Holly Frey?

  And I'm Holly Frey.

• 2:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  We talked about some historical heat waves, or historic heat waves. Both words work, I think, in this case.

• 2:37Holly Frey?

  Yes.

• 2:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Literal years. I've been like, heat wave, something heat wave talk about on the show. Another thing I have wanted to talk about the show, which is tangentially related, is the development of lifeguards, lifeguarding, lifesaving services because of all the drownings that happen

• 2:59Holly Frey?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:00Tracy V. Wilson?

  in the summer. And that came up briefly in the episode when we talked about how many people have drowned in the heat waves that have taken place in Europe. That happens other places, too, obviously. One of the things that has made me think that I want to do an episode at some point about lifeguarding, those kinds of lifesaving rescue operations, is a few years ago, we had a particularly bad season of drownings in Massachusetts, where just a very tragic number of people who, again, were all just trying to get cool and play in the water drowned. And I have not found great resources to be able to pull that together. Maybe it will happen someday, maybe not.

• 3:43Holly Frey?

  For our upbeat drowning episode.

• 3:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  Well, it would be upbeat because we would be talking about how we save people from drowning. This episode of Heat Waves is a big bummer episode because the world's just getting hotter.

• 4:01Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 4:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  And while France is legally bound to achieve carbon neutrality, we are living under an administration that's canceling green energy projects. And yeah, I hate it.

• 4:17Holly Frey?

  Yeah, it's not a good feeling. I will say, just to talk about the weather.

• 4:22Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 4:22Holly Frey?

  As you know, as people know, I love hot weather. I like

• 4:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  You do.

• 4:28Holly Frey?

  heat. And I know this one is freaky humidity.

• 4:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 4:33Holly Frey?

  This is the first year that I can think of, and some of this might just be that I'm getting older, but where I've been like, uh-oh.

• 4:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, too hot.

• 4:42Holly Frey?

  I have actually had two, like, kind of dehydration, heat-strokey events this year, when I was in Florida both times. And like, both times, it was a matter of like, get some electrolytes in me, plenty of water, and I bounced right back. But, and I talked about it with my doctor, and she's like, yeah, I think that's just, yeah, heat-strokey dehydration. That has never happened to me before. I mean, it did when I was a kid, when I was a little more delicate, but not in a long time. And that's like, for me, my own personal, like, experiential data, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's hotter than it's ever been. I can tell. Even when I mow the lawn, which I have to do now in like 25 to 30-minute increments because it's so freaking hot.

• 5:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 5:24Holly Frey?

  Like, our yard is big-ish. It takes a couple hours to mow the whole thing. And so like, over the course of four days, I slowly get the lawn mowed because it's just, even I am like, wow, it's stupid if I stay out here any longer.

• 5:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, yeah. Our yard is not big. Our yard is very small. It can be done in very much less than one battery of our battery-operated rechargeable mower.

• 5:51Holly Frey?

  Oh, no. We have three batteries, and I will buzz through all of them and keep going.

• 5:55Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 5:56Holly Frey?

  Come back the next day.

• 5:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  I, one of, I thought of a lot of things while working on this. One, we said at the top how it seems like heat is taken less seriously than some of the other

• 6:07Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  forms of weather. And one of the things I talked about or thought about was back when I was a teenager, I was in a drum and bugle corps, and we rehearsed outside in the hot and the sun for hours. And I remember a couple of situations where we would be like pushing toward a competition. They would call for a water break. An instructor would say, color guard, come over here. I want to go over those last, you know, 16 measures again. And then we wouldn't get any water.

• 6:47Holly Frey?

  Oh, no.

• 6:48Tracy V. Wilson?

  And, right. And there was at least one time that, that somebody who was in the color guard with me wound up having to get like medical attention. Like, she, her, I don't, I don't know what specifically went wrong. There are multiple heat-related things that can happen, and I don't know which specifically it was, but she just sort of shut down and got on the ground and wrapped her flag around her and went to the hospital. And I am hopeful that drum corps are better about that now.

• 7:18Holly Frey?

  Surely.

• 7:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  It's one of the sources of mixed feelings that I have about my time in drum corps.

• 7:24Holly Frey?

  Oh, yeah. I mean, again, this often comes up, and I don't mean to like be, you know, kind of like just throwing out the pat thing, but like,

• 7:34Holly Frey?

  our childhoods were dangerous.

• 7:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, they were.

• 7:38Holly Frey?

  Like, there just wasn't as much, and I don't mean to be like, back in our day, but there was not as much information about things like this. And I, I think, one, also, there was less danger. I mean, I feel like we hit that moment in the early 2000s where things started happening, where like, very fit athletes were having issues, like high school athletes. Like, I remember vaguely, and I, I feel bad because I'm not going to remember the details of like, a football, like a high school football player that died because he got dehydrated during practice or something.

• 8:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 8:14Holly Frey?

  And forgive me if I'm not conjuring the right thing. But there was an event like that, and I think that was a moment where a lot of people were like, oh.

• 8:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, kind of a wake-up call.

• 8:21Holly Frey?

  We should really start thinking more seriously about how, you know, these activities are managed in terms of like, just

• 8:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 8:30Holly Frey?

  pure outdoor, in-the-sun heat safety, which is great and should always be the case.

• 8:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 8:37Holly Frey?

  Also, some of us, me, are really bad about drinking enough water. And I'm getting better about it because I got scared straight after those two little dehydration events. But it is hard sometimes. I don't love water, I've said it many times, but I like passing out even less.

• 8:55Holly Frey?

  But I do think, you know, we all need to, I mean, this is my PSA to everybody. Please make sure you are getting enough fluids, enough electrolytes, enough, you know, not-in-the-sun time. I worry all the time now when I see, this summer, as I said, has been particularly rough, when I see like the people that, like, it's their job to work on lawns and stuff.

• 9:15Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 9:16Holly Frey?

  I feel like I've become like a one-woman watchdog group where I just carry water in my car in case I see anybody that looks like they might need it.

• 9:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:25Holly Frey?

  Even if they don't need it, if they just want to pocket it, great.

• 9:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 9:29Holly Frey?

  I just want everybody to be okay. There's no reason to pass out because you're mowing a lawn.

• 9:34Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Also, I can't speak for other countries, I can only speak for the United States, advocate for laws to protect the people who work outside.

• 9:42Holly Frey?

  Yes.

• 9:42Tracy V. Wilson?

  Like agricultural workers who literally feed us. They are providing the food for us to eat. And a lot of places have virtually no protections related to the dangers of being out in the heat all day.

• 9:56Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 9:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  I made reference in this episode to the discourse. There has been a lot of air conditioning discourse, which I found very frustrating.

• 10:05Holly Frey?

  I found some of it funny, but

• 10:06Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 10:07Holly Frey?

  I will tell you what I found funny recently. It might be the same thing you're getting to.

• 10:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Do you want to go first?

• 10:12Holly Frey?

  I don't know. Do we want to end on delight?

• 10:15Tracy V. Wilson?

  Let's end on funny. So, yeah, I'll say my thing first because I, I was more frustrated. I, I felt like a lot of people were kind of talking past each other, and a lot of people in the United States were making things sound easy that aren't.

• 10:30Holly Frey?

  Oh, yeah, no.

• 10:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  So like, I saw a lot of people saying, oh, they're complaining that they can't just, like, their windows aren't the right shape to put in a window air conditioner. You can put in ductless air conditioning systems in old buildings. We do it over here all the time. And it's like, true, true, we do put in ductless air conditioning systems. I put a ductless air conditioning system into the house that we bought in 2019. And let me tell you, that cost $30,000.

• 10:57Holly Frey?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 10:59Tracy V. Wilson?

  So like, yeah, we can do this, but a lot of people cannot afford $30,000. And yeah, in a lot of parts of Europe, it is more than that because of shortages of the actual equipment and stricter standards about things like the energy efficiency of the systems, the historic protections on the buildings, all of that kind of stuff. So yeah, I, I found the discourse frustrating rather than funny, but I want to hear what was funny to you because that does sound like a good way to end the episode.

• 11:36Holly Frey?

  I have two funny things.

• 11:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 11:38Holly Frey?

  One is just a funny conversation between a friend and I, and two is specifically about air conditioning. One is that I had been, as I've been talking about on the show, I'm trying to figure out when I can plan a trip to London to see the Bayou Tapestry.

• 11:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:51Holly Frey?

  And I was talking to one of my friends about it and he's like, you might not want to come now. It's really hot. And like, again, I'm not playing one upsmanship, but it was just funny because he was not taking into account like what people are accustomed to. And he's like, it's getting in like the eighties. And I was like, oh, my darling of me, it is, the real feel is 112 at my house right now. And he was like, oh, you'll be fine.

• 12:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 12:14Holly Frey?

  I'm just more, I'm used to it. The eighties will feel great to me, which is why I want to travel. Here's the funny thing. The World Cup.

• 12:21Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 12:22Holly Frey?

  Watching a lot of international visitors come to the US, one of the things that has delighted me is seeing how one, a lot of their preconceived notions about what the US is like, got kind of broken down. You know, like seeing them really realize that the US actually does love football slash soccer, you know, that it's not like, I know there was concern about being hosted in the US and discovering like, no, there's plenty of passion for it here. But also seeing them discover foods here, like the ranch dressing thing has been great. But I saw so many people on social media being like, how am I going to go home to a place without air conditioning after living, after being in hotels that

• 13:04Holly Frey?

  are like blasting 60 degree air and it feeling like such a respite outside.

• 13:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 13:10Holly Frey?

  It doesn't solve the problems that you were discussing, but it has been just funny. Like I, I feel like people did not realize how much of a difference air conditioning can make when you are having a very, very hot day. If you've been out in the stands or celebrating or doing whatever you're doing to then go back to a room that's like, Arctic blast.

• 13:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. I, I did not even think about air conditioning when we were booking the trip to England that Patrick and I took earlier this spring because I didn't even think about it. It is close to ubiquitous where we live, but also at this point I've made some trips to Europe and I know that a lot of parts of it, air conditioning is not ubiquitous, but also generally in earlier years, the temperature was more likely to be milder. And so we were going to England at a time when like the average temperature is more like in the high seventies. And so if we hadn't had air conditioning, it wouldn't have been

• 14:10Tracy V. Wilson?

  that big of a deal. And instead we got there during the hottest May in a century where when I realized, you know, a couple of days out that that was what was going to happen. I was like, oh no. And looked and, and discovered that, okay, the hotel that we are staying in during the worst of this says all the rooms are air conditioning, air conditioned, and they were, and the air conditioning was very good. So we did not have heat exhaustion in our hotel rooms.

• 14:41Holly Frey?

  Hooray, hooray.

• 14:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  It was kind of odd to go into a museum and have that museum be uncomfortably hot because museums.

• 14:52Holly Frey?

  That makes me nervous.

• 14:53Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, me too. Well, British museums, well, we could think about the British Museum for another reason to have questions about the British Museum. It got hot in a lot of it. So yeah, it was very strange when Patrick was like, oh, we'll just go to museums today. And I was like, honey, some of these museums have no air conditioning, just so you're aware before we go over there. We still had a very lovely trip though, even though it was so incredibly hot.

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• 19:46Holly Frey?

  We talked about Samuel Klipsel this week.

• 19:48Tracy V. Wilson?

  We did. We did.

• 19:49Holly Frey?

  He's like a delightful man. One of the things that charmed me to pieces while I was reading his book

• 19:57Holly Frey?

  was the preface, which I'm going to read a small excerpt from because

• 20:05Holly Frey?

  it just encapsulates who he was, I think.

• 20:07Tracy V. Wilson?

  I'm excited.

• 20:08Holly Frey?

  Quote, "I have no idea of writing a book. I don't know how to do it and fear I could not succeed if I tried. The idea, therefore, is very formidable to me. I will suppose myself to be writing to an individual and to be saying all I could think of to induce him to lend his utmost aid in remedying the great evil which we all deplore. And I will write so far as I can, just as I would speak to him if he were now sitting by my side." That's so sweet. I understand why people who were like, what are you doing here in the United States were then like, we love you, Samuel Klipsel.

• 20:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  That's some good advice.

• 20:45Holly Frey?

  It is.

• 20:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  It reminds me a little bit of many, many years ago, I was on the first Jonathan Colton cruise that was ever done. And a lot of the performers were people that I had been fans of for many years, who I was going to have the opportunity to actually have conversations with beyond just like having a signature done at a book signing or a fan table or something like that. And so I dealt with this by just pretending that I was also famous. And that really helped me to get over my jitters and just have regular conversations with people. And I think that's a little similar.

• 21:28Holly Frey?

  I think I do the reverse of that.

• 21:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah?

• 21:30Holly Frey?

  I just am like, this is a human who needs to do human things. They have to eat and use the ladies' or men's room or whatever room they wish. They have to do all the same stuff as me. It's very, you know, they put their pants on one leg at a time.

• 21:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  I feel like that's two sides of the same coin because it's two different ways of saying, we're the same and I can talk to you. Does that make sense?

• 21:54Holly Frey?

  Yes. Mine is a little, I don't, I don't know. I feel like mine might be a little more

• 22:02Holly Frey?

  or less, I don't know. I just strip them of their fame in my head.

• 22:06Tracy V. Wilson?

  Sure.

• 22:06Holly Frey?

  I'm like, you're, you're just a dude who happens to know about a thing I need to talk to you about.

• 22:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  This was also like 15 years ago or something. And who knows what I would, how I would approach things in a similar situation today.

• 22:20Holly Frey?

  You know what also really, I mean, I already felt this way, but there was an instance that really cemented that, which was, leading up to the 2020 election, I hosted a podcast that we did at iHeart called Why I'm Voting.

• 22:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 22:38Holly Frey?

  And I got to interview a lot of very famous people about like, what brings them to the polls? And this was, of course, going on during the pandemic.

• 22:47Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 22:48Holly Frey?

  And so it was all online. And I would literally see people just like, join in from like, sometimes their bathrooms. Like, they were like, this is the room with the best sound. Like, this is where I'm sitting. Or also in their closet like me. And it's just like, you know, at the end of the day, we all equalize.

• 23:05Tracy V. Wilson?

  Sure.

• 23:06Holly Frey?

  We all equalize.

• 23:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 23:09Holly Frey?

  This is a very fun show to do. There were a lot of great conversations and people that were very surprising in how frank and kind and lovely they were.

• 23:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yay.

• 23:19Holly Frey?

  Had a great, a lot of great conversations on that show. Super duper fun. But yeah, I think the idea of like, if you're writing and you're scared to write, but you need to, just write like you're writing, like you're talking to somebody.

• 23:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 23:31Holly Frey?

  That will be your truest voice as a writer anyway, in most cases. Perfect.

• 23:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  I feel like that's that sort of similar advice in public speaking. Like, I remember when I was in, in school, people were like, imagine the audience in their underwear. And I was like, that's not going to help me at all. But focusing on a person and thinking of it as I'm talking to this person, not I'm talking to a whole auditorium full of people, could really help.

• 23:59Holly Frey?

  Yeah. Again, I do it a little, I think of it differently. There's a thing, moons ago, I did a TEDx that was largely about like, being truthful about your life so that future historians will have an easier time understanding what was going on

• 24:15Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 24:16Holly Frey?

  in our current day.

• 24:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 24:18Holly Frey?

  And I, you know, I talked a lot about like, social media and whatnot and likened it actually to Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette, which I will always try to bring up in every conversation. But one of the things that I started really thinking about, and it's something that's guided a lot of this show for both of us,

• 24:36Holly Frey?

  is like, you've heard me do my soapbox about history is not just things that happen in seats of government or on thrones. It's about every single, everyday person. And so for me, kind of the way around it is not so much picturing that I'm talking to one person in a public speaking situation. It's remembering that we are all sharing one unique moment that will never be replicated. And that kind of makes it just like,

• 25:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 25:03Holly Frey?

  It's like, we are making our own moment of history together right here today. You're a part of it as much as me. And we can all, you know, have our little jamboree moment.

• 25:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 25:14Holly Frey?

  So I just love, it's important. And I, I feel like when I, I recently at a convention, was talking to a little girl because she was talking about how she didn't like history. We were talking about Star Wars things and it came to history. And I was like, oh, my darling, there is so much amazing history for you. You just need to find, there literally someone exactly like you has been in history from day one. And like, you, if you find their stories, history comes alive. And her mom looked at me like, what? Really? And I was like, yeah.

• 25:47Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 25:47Holly Frey?

  She's like, this is, I never thought about it that way. And I'm like, you should.

• 25:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  Lovely.

• 25:52Holly Frey?

  That's, that's what makes people connect to history because they remember that they're part of it.

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• 27:26Holly Frey?

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• 28:29Tracy V. Wilson?

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• 30:29Holly Frey?

  Anyway, Samuel Plimsoll. I got genuinely choked up reading obituaries of him.

• 30:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:35Holly Frey?

  Like, I had to stop because it was like, everyone was so ebullient about what, like, a pure soul he was and how incredibly kind he was to everyone he met. And, you know, while he would be very aggressive and frank about people doing bad things, he himself wouldn't even, like, really be that, unless you're a toll booth person.

• 31:00Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 31:02Holly Frey?

  Causes him trouble. One of the things that he said about that man that cracked me up, this is to him, the worst insult he could come up with.

• 31:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 31:10Holly Frey?

  He was not a gentleman.

• 31:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 31:15Holly Frey?

  I just found that hilarious. I love that whole story. What a little rabble rouser.

• 31:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 31:20Holly Frey?

  In a very sweet package. I still have the same problem I talked about on a previous behind the scenes, where A Million Miles Away plays in my head over and over.

• 31:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 31:30Holly Frey?

  Listen, if anybody's looking for a good, you know, 80s, 80s bop about disassociation, that's the song for you. It's great.

• 31:41Holly Frey?

  I love it. And I quite enjoyed learning about Samuel Plimsoll. I will say, there was a thing that happened, you know, we talked about the two different Colliery disasters.

• 31:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 31:50Holly Frey?

  That he raised money for the survivors and the remaining families.

• 31:53Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 31:54Holly Frey?

  Afterwards. I initially was having so much trouble with that because some biographies will only mention one or the other of them. And as a consequence, I think things that have drawn from those and been written later will sometimes conflate the two.

• 32:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh.

• 32:14Holly Frey?

  And so it would be like, this disaster that happened in this place in this year. And I would be like, there's no such on record that I can find. What is going on? And it took me a minute to be like, there are two separate events.

• 32:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 32:26Holly Frey?

  That each happened in somewhat similar ways and that he provided support for. But, like, it seems like those, in some cases, people only remember, like, he raised money for survivors of a mining disaster and it becomes one. That was a little tricky to suss out, but we did it.

• 32:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 32:46Holly Frey?

  You know, may we all be such kind creatures as him and so willing to, I mean, the things that he kind of put himself in the line of fire legally into with that whole shipping situation, because he was like, you guys are corrupt. You are making money off of this.

• 33:06Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 33:06Holly Frey?

  How dare you try to vote down or quash bills that will reform this industry? Listen, we have not solved that problem at all of, like, people in government being corrupt. So I appreciate his incredible resilience and, you know, his wife Eliza was very much in that fight with him.

• 33:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 33:25Holly Frey?

  And would also, like, do her own efforts in those bigger fundraising efforts. She was out there talking to people about the need for reform in labor and particularly in maritime labor. Just what a...

• 33:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 33:40Holly Frey?

  What a good egg.

• 33:41Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 33:41Holly Frey?

  Thanks, Samuel Plimsoll.

• 33:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 33:43Holly Frey?

  Thanks for trying to get people to look at history in a more nuanced way as well. When I first read that, I was like, is this dicey? It doesn't seem to have been.

• 33:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 33:52Holly Frey?

  Because he really was like, look, we know, you had every right to leave and want to have your own country. We get that. Let's be cool now, though.

• 34:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Well, and I think not so much about the relationship between the US and the UK, but there's plenty of other stuff going on in the world that has some kind of, you know, historical precedent that's, or historical context that's super, super relevant, that people will want to boil down to, this is good, this is bad. These people were good, these people were evil. And be outraged if anybody tries to be one hair more nuanced than that. And it's like, no, really, we're still talking about actual human beings operating from a variety of motives.

• 34:44Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 34:46Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 34:48Holly Frey?

  I mean, we, I feel like that's a lesson we still learn all the time on this show, right?

• 34:52Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 34:53Holly Frey?

  I mean, I still have moments of revelation in that regard. We talked about it on a recent behind the scenes where we were talking about the, you know, the golden age of piracy and really realizing how tied that was to political machinations and, and the ways that, you know, the decisions of people in seats of government kind of funneled into that problem of piracy at the time. It all connects, everything has its own, you know, context and nuance.

• 35:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 35:20Holly Frey?

  And if you're not looking at all of that, you're missing so much of the story. I mean, this is the whole premise of our show, but in any case, in any case, if this is your weekend coming up, I hope you do good works, unless you're exhausted, in which case, sometimes the good works is hanging out on your couch with a cup of coffee and a cat. It's great. That is also important because it makes you able to go out into the world a better and more resilient person. If you don't have time off, I hope you still get some time sitting on your bedonk, if that's your thing, it's certainly mine, doing something that brings you joy or peace or some combo of the two. And I hope that everyone is kind and that everyone carries the spirit of Samuel Plimsoll out into the world.

• 36:04Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yay.

• 36:05Holly Frey?

  We just want to take care of each other. I think he's a great inspiration and an icon of kindness that we can all get behind. We will be right back here on Monday with a brand new episode. And tomorrow, we will have a classic for you to enjoy.

• 36:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  Stuff You Missed in History Class is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

• 36:39Holly Frey?

  A rare disease diagnosis can change your life, but it doesn't have to define your future. In season seven of Untold Stories: Life with a Severe Autoimmune Condition, host Martine Hackett continues the conversation with people living with MG, CIDP, and the broader rare disease community, exploring what comes after diagnosis through stories of hope, progress, and connection. Produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Argenx. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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