Encounters x304 - Creatures, Demons, and the One Under Your Bed

Things are getting monstrous—and we mean that literally. This week, we’re crawling under the bed, into the bathroom, and deep into the woods to bring you some of the creepiest creature encounters our listeners have ever sent in. From haunted condos and crawling child ghosts to gargoyles that stalk through dreams, these stories had us checking every shadow and second-guessing every sound in the dark. Stories Include: A milky-eyed child ghost caught mid-crawl under the bed… and getting closer. A family in Mexico haunted by a gargoyle-like entity that lives in the walls—and their nightmares. A listener who learns the hard way that yes, ghosts can haunt you through YouTube. A Salem condo built over human remains that becomes home to something truly evil. A half-wolf, half-human creature in the Canadian woods that leaves behind more than just fear. So before you hit play, grab your salt, close your blinds, and maybe keep a light on—because tonight, the monsters aren’t staying under the bed. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited by Jaimi Ryan and produced by Emma Leventer and Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello.

• 2:10Corinne Vien?

  Are you scared of monsters under your bed?

• 2:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You should be.

• 2:14Corinne Vien?

  And we're gonna tell you all about them. So perhaps this isn't the one to let your kids listen to.

• 2:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 2:20Corinne Vien?

  Because sometimes, there are monsters under the bed.

• 2:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And this is an episode of?

• 2:26Corinne Vien?

  Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls, One Ghost. And we are your ghoststresses. That is Corinne.

• 2:31Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am Sabrina, and we are in our nineteen, or eighteen-hundred spiritualist set.

• 2:38Corinne Vien?

  Nineteen ninety-nine dresses.

• 2:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Honestly, we should just do like a throwback day and just fully change the set.

• 2:46Corinne Vien?

  Just go through the decades.

• 2:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 2:47Corinne Vien?

  Oh, our own eras tour.

• 2:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, that'd actually be fun to do a decade series of encounters.

• 2:54Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 2:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, stories from the sixties, stories from the seventies.

• 2:58Corinne Vien?

  Might be a little bit hard, because I feel like people are like, "So my dad, when he was eight, when was that?"

• 3:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true. You guys have to be specific, then.

• 3:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Or even just like our own stories, if we find, like, research stories.

• 3:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  From when we were in the seventies, oh.

• 3:11Corinne Vien?

  No, just like research stories from... Okay, we'll figure it out. You guys don't have to be a part of this conversation.

• 3:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We'll do it, we swear.

• 3:19Corinne Vien?

  We promise.

• 3:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe. We'll do something. We'll continue to make the podcast. We can promise you that.

• 3:26Corinne Vien?

  That's the, basically, the only thing we can fully commit to at this point.

• 3:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ghost stories will keep on coming, especially when you're as haunted as you are.

• 3:33Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 3:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Boo, bitches.

• 3:36Corinne Vien?

  Bitches is your new word.

• 3:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's my new word, and there's new things to share with you, especially that there is a new Patreon tier coming out. It is our only fan, Tums.

• 3:47Corinne Vien?

  Oh yeah, we're bringing it back, and this time?

• 3:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  With extra toes.

• 3:51Corinne Vien?

  Extra toes. Whoa, I almost said some things that aren't appropriate.

• 3:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You have to say it now.

• 3:56Corinne Vien?

  No, I can't.

• 3:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I'll edit it out.

• 3:58Corinne Vien?

  I'll whisper it to you later. I was gonna say it.

• 4:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh yeah, that's edited out. But no, we're really excited. It launches October twenty-sixth with a, I wasn't saying grand finale, but it's like the fireworks start out fucking strong. It's the replay of our live show from Arts the Armory from October 8th. We have it recorded.

• 4:19Corinne Vien?

  So if you weren't there.

• 4:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now you can be there.

• 4:21Corinne Vien?

  Because we have it recorded and we're gonna share with our OnlyPhantoms.

• 4:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, we are. And you know what we're doing? Because we're smart business women. If you join the OnlyPhantoms, it's included with the tier. But if you don't want to join OnlyPhantoms, it's available for like twice the price by itself. So you pick which is the smart decision.

• 4:38Corinne Vien?

  We have resources now and we have a team of people suggesting things to us.

• 4:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Brain cells galore.

• 4:45Corinne Vien?

  So a couple more brain cells, that's how it's gonna go.

• 4:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah, the tier has a lot of new bonuses. So basically it includes everything that is in the Most Haunted Friends tier. And it also includes?

• 4:58Corinne Vien?

  Extra encounters. Twice a month, we are choosing an additional story to read in two different encounters. And we're posting them exclusively on Patreon.

• 5:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exclusive. Yeah, so if you're ever like listening to an encounters episode, say the theme is demonic. And you're like, God, I really wish there was more demonic encounters. Well, guess what? Now there will be.

• 5:19Corinne Vien?

  Right? Head on over to Patreon. You'll get an additional story.

• 5:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're also gonna have a book club every two months, so it's six times a year.

• 5:25Corinne Vien?

  Yep.

• 5:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where you can help us pick the book. We will debrief, discuss live on Zoom. There are some really good books that we've read lately and in the past book clubs, so this will be fun.

• 5:34Corinne Vien?

  And we've also been doing some witchy things and making some witchy friends. And so when we do occasional witchy events or talk to witchy people, we're gonna include our OnlyPhantoms in on the conversation.

• 5:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Witch class, like witch 101. We have our very first one on Halloween. With my good friend and psychic pal, Chris, who's gonna teach us.

• 5:55Corinne Vien?

  From Salem.

• 5:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who has some witchy tips and Sawin rituals for you to practice at home.

• 6:01Corinne Vien?

  She's Goth Ariana Grande. She reminds me so much of Ariana Grande. She's so sweet.

• 6:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She's delightful.

• 6:07Corinne Vien?

  Her voice is so, yeah. Oh, she's ethereal.

• 6:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love her.

• 6:09Corinne Vien?

  Love discounted merch.

• 6:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Twenty-five percent off merch.

• 6:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. And if you're our most haunted friends group member, we hope that this next tier does feel enticing if you want to join it. But we also want to remind you that your benefits are remaining in place.

• 6:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The only thing changing is book club, but yes.

• 6:25Corinne Vien?

  Which technically we hadn't advertised book club anywhere.

• 6:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true.

• 6:30Corinne Vien?

  It technically wasn't a part of any tier.

• 6:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now it's official. Of Only Phantoms. And we are also, anytime we want to like explore new ideas, the Only Phantoms are, you're gonna be our test subjects. Basically, we'll experiment on you and see how you fare after the event.

• 6:50Corinne Vien?

  And this past October, we had one interesting event that we'd never done before, which was we went on a Salem ghost tour. And we were able to reserve all of the slots on that ghost tour for our listeners. And we opened it up to our Patreon members.

• 7:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It sold out in two minutes.

• 7:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, very quick. And so now when we do more things like that, different cool things as we continue to build our community and make connections here in Salem and the surrounding spooky cities. We're gonna give the Only Phantoms first dibs.

• 7:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Basically, our insiders and our Frankensteins. We get to give you things and try things out on you. It's gonna be great. It's so much fun. We're excited to share it with you. And this is all launching again, like I said, October twenty-sixth. So October twenty-sixth, it's a Sunday. We're gonna start it out with releasing our replay of our live show. And then on Tuesday, our bonus episode of the month comes out, which both tiers you'll have access to. We also will have campfire stories. Again, both tiers will have access to it. And then Thursday, that's the first time we're gonna release one of our extra encounters. And then.

• 7:55Corinne Vien?

  Which I'm excited. I feel like we picked really good, like juicy.

• 7:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, we did.

• 7:59Corinne Vien?

  For that.

• 8:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We really did. And then on Friday, on Halloween itself, we are gonna release that spooky ritual with, with Chris that you two can practice at home on Halloween. And then in a couple of weeks, on November tenth, Monday, November tenth, we'll have our first book club discussion of Here Lies a Vengeful Bitch. By Cody Crowley, who's a Salem resident and author.

• 8:25Corinne Vien?

  We saw her the other day in the coffee shop. I said, look over there. I follow her on TikTok. All a lot of new things, a lot of dates, a lot of new offerings, but you don't have to memorize any of it. You can head over to Patreon. And if you're not yet a member, or if you are a member, you can see it all written out and decide.

• 8:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If it's something you want to participate. Which tier do you want to join? Or do you want to spend $20, which is way more, on a one-time watch? You decide what's best. Or $0, that's okay, too. If you're just here for fun and want to hang, you can do that. You're here for shits and gigs, great. But, you know, it's there. If you want more, there's more available to you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay. We love you. And we will. See you on Patreon.

• 9:07Corinne Vien?

  I do have to say one quick thing. And obviously, this is an encounter, so we don't usually talk much at the top. But I was just at the Kelsey's wedding, and we had a lot of people there that listened. And so I was...

• 9:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love how you said, "We had a lot of people there."

• 9:20Corinne Vien?

  Like, Two Girls One Ghost.

• 9:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I thought you meant like, the Kelsey's.

• 9:23Corinne Vien?

  Oh, like, me and the Kelsey's invited.

• 9:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You and the Kelsey's invited.

• 9:25Corinne Vien?

  Quite a few Two Girls and Ghost listeners. No, but I got to meet a bunch of our listeners, but there was like, one moment where it felt like, you know, when you're boarding a flight or something, and they're like, "Have a nice flight," and you're like, "You, too." I had like, a dumb moment like that, because someone came up as a Two Girls and Ghost listener and was talking, and they were like, "I love ghost stories." I go, "Me, too." Like, it was like, a new thing for them to learn about me. And then I was like, "Oh, wait." That's how the conversation started.

• 9:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You know that about me. Well, no, of course you love ghost stories.

• 9:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 9:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  At least they didn't say, "I love your podcast," and you said, "Me, too."

• 9:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Me, too, it's amazing. Yeah.

• 9:59Corinne Vien?

  Just awkward.

• 10:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so, because the next couple of regular episodes we're recording are really, really hefty, so let's like, put some of the chattiness right here.

• 10:08Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 10:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because I was re-listening to episode 12, Dominus, because we're covering a story that was in that episode, the Arnie Cheyenne Johnson case on Crimes of. And so I was like, "Ooh, what did we say about it back in 2018?"

• 10:25Corinne Vien?

  Probably not much.

• 10:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not much. It's not that interesting. But I was, I like, was listening to it, and I almost didn't recognize myself. Like, it actually made me very, very sad, because... I'm so clearly so insecure. And like.

• 10:41Corinne Vien?

  But also, it was episode 12. Like, we were both so awkward just using technology in front of microphones, too.

• 10:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, but I think I spent like four years of our podcast just being like, or just of my life. I've spent a lot of time in my life being insecure. I'm still insecure in so many ways, but I think listening back to it, I think I was able to like revert to that place that I was in in my life, where I just felt like I didn't deserve to take up space. And that's something I've battled with like my whole life and into adulthood, too, like learning that I should take up space and it's okay to take up space. And I just, my heart ached for younger me, listening to it.

• 11:20Corinne Vien?

  I'm sorry. I'm sure too, like now, being past that and like growing.

• 11:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Growing, not past it.

• 11:27Corinne Vien?

  Well.

• 11:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Working on it.

• 11:28Corinne Vien?

  Past that like phase of your life too, where like there were a lot of things going on, like you can look back to and just know all of the things that were happening to you and the feelings that you were having, which probably like contributes to.

• 11:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 11:40Corinne Vien?

  You feeling that way. But I feel like this is why the podcast is good, because it's your opportunity to take up as much space as you want.

• 11:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is my space, bitches.

• 11:48Corinne Vien?

  I also don't need to talk. Like, I'm fine.

• 11:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, like the, no.

• 11:52Corinne Vien?

  I feel like you've become more confident as I've become less.

• 11:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I literally was at the morbid show and you weren't there. I felt so naked. Like, I'm so dependent on you. I'm, I'm codependent.

• 12:05Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 12:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We have a codependent relationship.

• 12:07Corinne Vien?

  So many people are like, how have you done the past year? I'm like, because I didn't do half of the past year. Sabrina did it for me.

• 12:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Get on my back.

• 12:15Corinne Vien?

  I'm like, literally, she's dragging me forward in life so I don't perish.

• 12:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're a team.

• 12:21Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 12:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We got each other. We're codependent.

• 12:23Corinne Vien?

  We're codependent.

• 12:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A healthy codependent.

• 12:25Corinne Vien?

  But episode 12, I will say, the story at the end of it's really good.

• 12:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's great.

• 12:29Corinne Vien?

  The Rick story, the infamous Rick story. Oh, wait, I wrote down someone's name. Let me just say it out loud, because she's supposed to be coming to our live show.

• 12:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 12:37Corinne Vien?

  I'm not sure that she'll make it.

• 12:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 12:38Corinne Vien?

  I did not meet her, but I met one of her friends. Her name is Alana.

• 12:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey, Alana.

• 12:43Corinne Vien?

  She's coming to our show two weeks before she's supposed to be giving birth. So either she's gonna give birth in the crowd.

• 12:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my God, that would be a, a baby.

• 12:51Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 12:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A two-year-old's baby.

• 12:53Corinne Vien?

  I was talking to the person and they're like, oh, yeah, my friend Alana's coming. Like, she's gonna be 38 weeks pregnant. I was like, she should not be coming to the show.

• 12:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, though, talking about the show, this episode actually comes out, I think, after the show happened, so it was so much fun.

• 13:05Corinne Vien?

  We delivered a baby.

• 13:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We delivered a baby.

• 13:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Pivot entirely, the whole show became labor and delivery.

• 13:12Corinne Vien?

  It could be, that's the scariest thing I've ever experienced.

• 13:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, that would be really scary. But I have been prepping, like, for the live show and going through all the footage. You were about to give birth when we did the investigation at S.K. Pierce's house.

• 13:27Corinne Vien?

  I've been thinking about that, I'm like, I really dragged myself along there.

• 13:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You were fully pregnant.

• 13:31Corinne Vien?

  I was big.

• 13:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because I was thinking about, you were fully pregnant when we did the Lizzie Borden house, but you were even more pregnant when we did the S.K. Pierce's house.

• 13:39Corinne Vien?

  That wasn't, that wasn't full pregnancy, that was like, I had a little bump and I was really sleepy at Lizzie Borden. I slept in every room.

• 13:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true.

• 13:45Corinne Vien?

  I slept my way through the investigation. I missed half of it.

• 13:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know how you did it. Props to you.

• 13:51Corinne Vien?

  No, but the S.K. Pierce was, the S.K. Pierce was like, we had such scary things happen to us, but like, when I think back to it, I'm like, I mentally was like, these things are scary, but I physically couldn't react to so much of it, because I was like, I'm so fucking over being in this body, like, a demon could kind of punch me in the face and I'd be like...

• 14:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cool.

• 14:11Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 14:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I hope a demon never punches you in the face, and I hope a demon has never punched any of you in the face, but...

• 14:17Corinne Vien?

  Pierce is hoping this coffee does.

• 14:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Get kicked in the face by a cup of coffee from Duncan.

• 14:23Corinne Vien?

  Duncan, are you gonna sponsor us?

• 14:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sponsor us! We give you free advertisement every frickin' day.

• 14:30Corinne Vien?

  Every day, and we live in Massachusetts, fuck more, we're literally, it's because we're desperate.

• 14:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're too needy, it's like how I feel about aliens.

• 14:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Duncan, we don't care about you at all.

• 14:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We hate you.

• 14:41Corinne Vien?

  And we love you.

• 14:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, and we love monster stories, because you guys have seen some, so...

• 14:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 14:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're gonna go first.

• 14:49Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and I kind of went, I think I have like, one monster-ish monster, you know, like a little cryptid type monster, but otherwise, I kind of went with the traditional, like...

• 14:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Monster under bed.

• 14:58Corinne Vien?

  There's a monster in the house, there's a monster under the bed.

• 15:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, because there's some good ones.

• 15:01Corinne Vien?

  Situation. Yeah, so the first one, monster under the bed.

• 15:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Perfect.

• 15:06Corinne Vien?

  It's called, "Hey, hi, hello."

• 15:10Corinne Vien?

  Nice. Writing in because scary things happen to me often and I just had to share this and I know my friend Melissa would tell me to write in again. As she often does. Okay, well now we gotta go look for Melissa.

• 15:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love you, Melissa.

• 15:21Corinne Vien?

  All right, so this just happened. It's nine thirty PM. My daughter is finally asleep, so I start painting my nails for our upcoming trip. So I go to lay on the floor to get to work, but something feels off. And nobody else is home, by the way. I blame it on the neighbors. Yay for military housing. Anyway, it's eleven PM and I was only equipped with two hands. So I reached my right, where the bed is at, to grab something out of my polish box. And what do I see but a little face looking at me from the other end of the bed?

• 15:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You did say you wish you had four hands.

• 15:54Corinne Vien?

  It's about five feet away. And I don't know, I'm just a girl. I don't do exact measurements. It's a little boy. I'm just a girl. I'm gonna start. That's gonna be like a new thing in my life.

• 16:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm just a girl.

• 16:07Corinne Vien?

  I'm just a girl.

• 16:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Actually, I think I've seen that. That's like a trend on TikTok. Yeah.

• 16:11Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh. Wait, sorry, pivot from this story for one second. You're first talking about episode twelve and like looking back and feeling

• 16:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Insecure.

• 16:19Corinne Vien?

  Sorry for yourself, I guess. You should do the trend where people use. I know everyone hates AI, okay? There's a lot of things I hate about it too, but there's a trend where you use AI to have it take a Polaroid pic or create a Polaroid.

• 16:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or you holding and hugging your younger self.

• 16:36Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, maybe that will be healing.

• 16:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Blow it up and print it on my wall.

• 16:41Corinne Vien?

  I'm gonna use it to have celebrities hug me.

• 16:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What celebrity?

• 16:46Corinne Vien?

  Um, probably Pedro Pascal. I don't know. Did you say daddy?

• 16:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:51Corinne Vien?

  Daddy. He is daddy.

• 16:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He is daddy.

• 16:53Corinne Vien?

  Stanley Tucci. I do feel, I feel like mama and dada. Mother. Mother, I am your mother. I'm just a girl. I don't know exact measurements. It's a little boy, brownish hair, and he has his arms flat underneath his face. I'm assuming to prop it up, but not because he was also in the middle of crawling towards me.

• 17:15Corinne Vien?

  There's something off about his face, but the part that really threw me off were his eyes milky. I'm screaming on the inside, but I remain calm and I text my sister to keep me calm-ish. And I immediately text my husband, who's now home thankfully, to very calmly bring me my cleansing bowl. A few minutes go by and yet again, I have to reach for something. Guess who's closer now? Just an arm lengths away.

• 17:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, I'm sorry. Your husband came into the room. Did he not check?

• 17:43Corinne Vien?

  I don't think he made it up yet.

• 17:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, it's just like instant.

• 17:47Corinne Vien?

  Open his texts.

• 17:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my God.

• 17:49Corinne Vien?

  Peeking behind the open box that I reached into previously. So, no, I didn't put the bottle away. I finish the hand I'm working on. Slightly open the window. Tell it to go away in both English and Spanish. And then I start to do some cleansing. There's now salt in the corners of this room and a protection bag under the bed. I'm not sure if this was a white eyed child or maybe a demon, but I do know that now it's gone. I usually cleanse my house, so this was a very weird experience. Anyway, hope you enjoyed it. Hauntingly yours, Catherine.

• 18:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, it's very scary, Catherine, and this is literally a ghost under your bed. But also like mid crawl. Wish you had extra hands, so.

• 18:29Corinne Vien?

  You conjured the ghost. He was getting closer and closer to your box to help you with your nails.

• 18:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 18:35Corinne Vien?

  But it is creepy, like, because I was picturing him being caught like mid crawl, like kind of like a normal speed. And then he was just gonna go away. But she turned away from him. He was still slowly. It's like he was trying to sneak up. Like he didn't.

• 18:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He's like a cat.

• 18:50Corinne Vien?

  Quite understand if she actually saw him or not the first time. Very creepy.

• 18:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's very cat like, which makes me feel less scared of it, but.

• 18:57Corinne Vien?

  I wonder if she has a cat. Maybe this is the.

• 18:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, like.

• 19:00Corinne Vien?

  Spirit form of the cat. Catherine, do you have a cat?

• 19:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's cool. Nice positive spin. Good work. Or just a demon who was crawling out from under your bed, trying to get your soul. Negative spin. Woo hoo.

• 19:13Corinne Vien?

  Redo your paint design. It's terrible.

• 19:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A ghost kid could do it better.

• 19:17Corinne Vien?

  I have beef with my nail guy. I picked out brown and he painted them plum.

• 19:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let me see.

• 19:21Corinne Vien?

  Well, they look brown here, but in the sunlight, they're plum.

• 19:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They look very brown.

• 19:25Corinne Vien?

  It was.

• 19:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So that's not his fault. He could, he, it looks brown inside.

• 19:28Corinne Vien?

  Maybe it was my fault.

• 19:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You didn't go outside with your nails first. Okay, well, this is a monster in a bathroom. It is specifically our gargoyle type monster.

• 19:40Corinne Vien?

  Ooh creepy.

• 19:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi ladies, first time writer, longtime fan. I'm so excited every time a new episode comes out. And just wanted to say thank you so much for all of the ghostly adventures you have touched on and I cannot wait for more. My name is Carol, she/her, feel free to use it. Carol says, my scary story starts with my grandmother's house. Can you guess where grandmother's house is?

• 20:01Corinne Vien?

  Appalachia.

• 20:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mexico.

• 20:04Corinne Vien?

  Mexico.

• 20:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Another spooky place.

• 20:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh, if I had four guesses, my only four guesses were Appalachia, Utah.

• 20:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 20:11Corinne Vien?

  Like Mexico, Arizona, New Mexico border, and then the Philippines.

• 20:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, well, next time I'll, I'll give you four guesses.

• 20:17Corinne Vien?

  Okay, thank you. So then I get them right.

• 20:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We also have in two encounters, so not next one, but the one after that, the first of November is gonna be Mexico La Llorona. Cryptids from Mexico encounters.

• 20:28Corinne Vien?

  So it's gonna be haunting.

• 20:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's gonna be spooky.

• 20:30Corinne Vien?

  Kitty hat, don't listen.

• 20:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So for a bit of background, my grandma has lived in Mexico her whole life and is the mother of my two uncles and my mom. The house she lives in has been in the family for decades and it basically looks like a long hallway. Where you enter through the living room, then go through the dining room, the kitchen, the bathroom, then a bedroom is at the far back. I'd truly blackout when I read layouts, I'm sorry.

• 20:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, me too. I'm like, I just picture it as my own family home and then just work from there.

• 20:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. The door to the second floor is across from the kitchen and when you go up the stairs, you're met with a second bedroom. Growing up, there have always been strange happenings in this house. Like hearing someone dragging a metal stool upstairs when there is no one. But as of now, no one in my direct family has seen any sort of metaphysical being while awake. I partly grew up in this house with one of my cousins and I vividly remember that anytime I'd go through the kitchen to where the bathroom and bedroom were, I would get so scared, as if I could feel something menacing, but only in that section of the house. My cousin felt it too, so we would constantly accompany one another anytime we had to use the bathroom, so we wouldn't be alone. The funny thing is that that feeling has never truly gone away, and even years later,

• 21:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  after my uncle had his kids, they also have always felt a negative energy in that exact same part of the house. So a few months ago, I was talking to my mom, and she told me she had a nightmare. It seemed to be coming out of nowhere because my mom hasn't visited this house in many years. But she told me that she had dreamt she was washing dishes in my grandmother's kitchen, and that she could feel she was not alone. That eerie feeling didn't go away, so she looked to the side toward the bathroom and saw what she could only describe as a gargoyle. It had deep, smoky gray skin and hollows where its eyes should have been. It had massive horns lining its head, and it seemed to be peeking at her from behind a wall.

• 22:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Its bony hand was holding the wall with cloudy white nails that looked incredibly sharp. When she saw it, she froze and somehow mustered up the courage to say, "What are you? Why are you here?" The gargoyle sunk into the wall before she could see it again, and it dissolved into the very structure of the house. Ew! The same house that has housed my family for years. My mom woke up terrified, as she should, and decided to give one of my uncles a call right after she told me about the dream. So she called my uncle Carlos, and he picked up the phone, he heard my mom's story, and for the first time ever, he was speechless. He is not a man that gets easily scared by any means, as he's very much a skeptic

• 23:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  about ghosts and spirits, but it seemed my mom's story really rattled him. After a few moments, he starts to tell us about his own experience with this same being. When my Uncle Carlos was a teenager, he would nap in the upstairs bedroom, which happens to be right above the bathroom. And on one fateful day, he was in a deep sleep when in his dream, he heard scratches on the door of the bedroom, as if someone was trying to claw the right in. The metal door had frosted glass on the top half. And there, through this glassy frosted window, he saw a massive black silhouette. Startled, he sat up, only to see this person ram themselves

• 23:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  onto the door, trying to get it open. Amongst the chaos, my uncle was literally frozen in fear. There was no way for him to get out. When the intruder eventually got the window open, that is when my uncle saw it. A smoky, dark creature with no eyes and horns all around. And it was staring directly at him. It reached its bony hand into the room, about to touch the edge of his bed with its cloudy white nails. My uncle breathed what he thought was going to be his last breath before the gargoyle swung the heavy door open. And at that exact moment was when he woke up to his actual bedroom door being opened. And the oldest sibling, my Uncle Louis, barged in with panic in his eyes, which met the panic in Carlos's eyes. And out of breath, Louis asked, "Bro, are you okay?

• 24:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I just had a crazy dream about a gargoyle trying to attack you."

• 24:40Corinne Vien?

  No freaking way. Either this family is super connected or this thing is way more powerful.

• 24:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, this thing is in the house.

• 24:48Corinne Vien?

  In the house, in people's dreams?

• 24:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which makes me think that Carol's mom had the dream because there was something going to happen in the house. I don't know.

• 24:58Corinne Vien?

  Ew.

• 24:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But there's more.

• 25:00Corinne Vien?

  It's like premonitions and then actual haunting and then remote viewing of the actual haunting.

• 25:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Or it's calling her back to the house. I so badly wanted to get my Uncle Louis's side of the story because it meant that all three siblings dreamt about the exact same entity. Unfortunately, my Uncle Louis doesn't remember what happened in his dream, but he did tell me that since my grandmother is a skeptic, they just never bothered to tell her about the matching nightmares. And it just so happened that it caught up to my mom a few decades later. But why now? Was it an omen, a warning? Whatever the reason, I was consumed by this entire connection. If this thing is in my grandmother's house, could it hurt her? And then it hit me. It already had. So my grandmother has gone through a very long struggle with her legs and has been in a wheelchair for a very long time. About six years ago, she had the opportunity to walk again with orthopedic boots.

• 25:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So she would slowly walk up and down the house with her walker in the mornings, per the doctor's orders. One particular morning, she was walking past the bathroom when all of a sudden she fell. It was pure luck that my uncle and his wife were in the upstairs room and they heard her scream and ran downstairs to see a horrible scene. My grandma was sprawled out in front of the bathroom, in pain, as pale as a ghost. My aunt immediately went toward her as my uncle ran to the living room where they kept the landline. And when he picked up the phone, the line was dead silent, like someone had cut the cord.

• 26:20Corinne Vien?

  Ew.

• 26:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  At this point, he ran outside to get a neighbor to call an ambulance. And luckily, once the dust settled, my grandma was able to tell us her side of the story. We all assumed that she had tripped, which had caused her to fall. But no, that is not what happened. I'm getting chills.

• 26:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, me too. And also, just like the worst timing ever to have your phone not work.

• 26:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. She swears that she felt someone, Carol says something, push the back of her knees to where she completely lost balance and fell backward. I would like to reiterate here that she is a skeptic and an incredibly religious woman and does not take things like this lightly. She says that as soon as she fell, she could feel something draining her energy to where she could hardly feel her body anymore and nearly went unconscious until my aunt and uncle came to help her.

• 27:10Corinne Vien?

  Is this like a secret poltergeist? Where it's like, normally we see possession cases and exorcisms where it's like so clearly escalating, but it's just like, it's hiding in the walls.

• 27:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's just tormenting them slowly over time?

• 27:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, coming out and nearly killing people.

• 27:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Moreover, my uncle checked the phone the next day and the cable that connects to the wall had literally been burned, which is why it didn't work the day that they needed it the most. To this day, there has been no explanation for that. Explanation is the gargoyle burnt it.

• 27:39Corinne Vien?

  Right. And I hate that because that's just like proof that whatever this thing is, which is so clearly not of, I don't want to say not of this world because maybe it is of this world and we just don't see and understand certain things. But it's like, it is not human and yet it understands what we need, which is the phone to call for help and it understands how to break it.

• 28:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, and it knows that it's hurting you. Luckily, my grandma was okay after this scary incident and continues to live in the house. Her decision. We check up on her constantly and since she still doesn't believe in the supernatural, we just ensure that she's comfortable. She does bless the house every now and then, but even the last time I went to visit, there's just this coldness that sticks around in that bathroom. So what do you ladies think? A demon? Why would it be attached to that specific spot in the house? Should I tell my grandma about all three of the nightmares? Any advice? I'm all ears. All the best, Carol.

• 28:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 28:41Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 28:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 30:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, tell Grandma it doesn't hurt. Worst case, she's like, pish posh.

• 30:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. I mean, this is upsetting that it has happened for so long. And that so many people have had experiences with it.

• 30:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's lurking in the same... At least you know where it is.

• 30:38Corinne Vien?

  Right. But like Grandma, the only one that's close, like, has been close to killed is the one residing with it. It's disturbing.

• 30:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I don't know. Like, and also, why does it choose to attack at certain times and other times it doesn't? Like, why did it show up in Carol's mom's dream decades later?

• 30:55Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 30:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm curious how close that dream was to Grandma being pushed.

• 30:59Corinne Vien?

  Right. Is it living in this sort of loop? Or is this like a Jeepers Creepers sort of thing where it just like is coming out every...

• 31:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 31:06Corinne Vien?

  So often?

• 31:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm curious, because we know that bathrooms, a lot of bathrooms do get haunted because the different like energies in there, the water source.

• 31:15Corinne Vien?

  Mirror.

• 31:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And they love to catch you with your pants down or watch you shower. But yeah, is there like some, a mirror portal of some kind?

• 31:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 31:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, can we get rid of the mirror? Can...

• 31:26Corinne Vien?

  Right, like is it attached to something?

• 31:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Can we show up and...

• 31:28Corinne Vien?

  Oh, man. And also, this being in Mexico is just like one of those things where it's like, I'm sure your brain goes through the Rolodex of like what's happening to me because there's so many different cryptids and spirits and just like things that already exist in Mexico.

• 31:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is also wild that as someone from Mexico doesn't believe in the paranormal this way.

• 31:46Corinne Vien?

  I feel like that's an oxymoron.

• 31:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right? And clearly she does believe in some... Powers because she's blessing the house multiple times. And she does, she acknowledged that it felt like something or someone pushed her.

• 31:58Corinne Vien?

  Right. I also feel like sometimes when people, I don't know how religious she is, if she's religious at all, but I'm just thinking about like the

• 32:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It sounds like she is.

• 32:05Corinne Vien?

  Amount of Catholicism in Mexico. Having known a lot of Catholics who are like, I don't believe, I think that there's sometimes a hard time going from like, oh, I believe in like a miracle or angels in hell to I believe in cryptids and creatures and other things existing.

• 32:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The demons are very much prominent in the Catholic religion.

• 32:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah. But like if it's a gargoyle, like is that technically a demon or, I mean,

• 32:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Angels also like historically are terrifying.

• 32:35Corinne Vien?

  A bunch of eyes spinning in circles all around. That's terrifying.

• 32:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 32:39Corinne Vien?

  I don't feel bad for this gargoyle like I did in the beginning of the story because

• 32:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You felt bad for him?

• 32:43Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, because we were calling him ugly. And then I was thinking about like how gargoyles are always called ugly and how like, I was like, are they just reactive? Because the way that people react to them is immediately with disgust. And then I felt bad for them. And then I started thinking about what do they think of us? Because like humans are kind of ugly too, right?

• 32:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, we are.

• 33:00Corinne Vien?

  We're like naked mole rats with strings of, strings coming out of our head.

• 33:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is why I love any old timey show that deals with beauty and like the sick view of beauty. I love, there's a episode of Twilight Zone called Eye of the Beholder. That's kind of all about that. I don't want to give away the twist, but there's also an episode, it might even be a Star Trek thing. I don't know, but there's like this supernatural being who becomes basically a thin piece of flesh inside a capsule because like society is obsessed with being thin. And so she's just like eyes on like literally a thin piece of flesh.

• 33:41Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I like that. It's not that, but like

• 33:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know what it's from.

• 33:45Corinne Vien?

  Oh, interesting. But it is like, yeah, if you think about like animals and stuff, even on this planet, like we look so different.

• 33:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We do.

• 33:53Corinne Vien?

  From all the others. You know what we actually kind of look like is that one dog from Mexico that is hairless, but has this little tufts of hair on top.

• 34:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What dog is that?

• 34:02Corinne Vien?

  Oh, let me show you. I don't remember what his name is.

• 34:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is this like a specific singular dog?

• 34:08Corinne Vien?

  No, it's a breed.

• 34:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, it's a breed. You said his name is.

• 34:12Corinne Vien?

  I picture him as a boy.

• 34:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Does anyone else, like growing up, did you think like all cats were girls and all dogs were boys?

• 34:18Corinne Vien?

  I still believe that.

• 34:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 34:20Corinne Vien?

  Okay, here we go. This is like the picture that's coming up. We look like that? Well, I'm just saying it's like a lot of skin and then hair on top. Oh. You know? Yeah. I do imagine we are kind of scary looking two gargoyles, but that gargoyle I don't feel bad for and I would never wanna encounter them. Yeah, just be better, you know? I'm just a gargoyle. I'm just a garg- a gargol. I'm just a gargol.

• 34:45Corinne Vien?

  Dead. Okay, um, this is called Sven Got Me. Sven is the monster under the bed. Sven is. Sorry. Sorry. This is from Tiffany. Hi, spooky girls. Hey. I just found your YouTube channel and I've made it my mission after watching multiple current episodes to start watching videos from the beginning. Unfortunately, most of our episodes are audio for like a good year. I'm a believer in the supernatural. I love cryptids, demons, always wanted to be a witch and was also a spooky kid growing up. I made my own witchaboard when I was just in the second grade with a planchette made out of my little brother's big block Lego. I'm just a girl. I'm just a gargol. Which may be why I had so many spooky encounters throughout my life.

• 35:28Corinne Vien?

  In eighth grade, we used to sit outside under the full moon and read each other's tarot cards. I think you are a witch. Yeah. You wanted to be a witch. You were a witch. You are a witch. As I listen to your podcast, I think about all these stories that I really want to share with you. Like the house that I lived in where all of my friends would wake up in the middle of the night to talk about the minor in Uber rolls, a pickaxe and a big white beard. Or we would all just dream about nuns. Okay, that's, that is spooky. We were the first house built on that land in the middle of the Arizona desert. Another story is about my mom's boyfriend, Mike. She was with him for over 11 years and he was like a father to me and my brother. Fast forward to when my brother and I had kids, boys, two months apart.

• 36:10Corinne Vien?

  And he would always call my son a lizard because he was always sticking his tongue out. Unfortunately, when my son was around six months old, we lost Mike unexpectedly in a self-inflicted wound. And my mom had those touch lamps on both sides of her bed and Mike would always get frustrated because he could never turn them on. No clue why, maybe he was just tapping it too hard. Anyway, after his passing, the lamp would constantly turn on.

• 36:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's like two things. It's like, one, he's making it very clear he's there. But two, he's like, I can finally turn it on. Figured it out.

• 36:46Corinne Vien?

  My mom is not the only one to witness it. I saw it happen once when I was outside of her bedroom. My cousin, his cousin, maybe more. And when the boys were about three years old, they would randomly come running into the living room telling us that the monster was trying to get them.

• 36:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, no.

• 37:00Corinne Vien?

  Not being scared, but being really playful.

• 37:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like a game?

• 37:04Corinne Vien?

  My son would be there without my nephew and tell me that he was playing with the monster. He was playing lizard. A few years after this, my mom, I have chills.

• 37:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so sweet.

• 37:15Corinne Vien?

  A few years after this, my mom eventually got a new boyfriend and he moved in. And soon after, her oven, which had a glass door, shattered, almost like an explosion, but it was just the glass on the door of the oven. She was in the backyard, right off the kitchen, and her boyfriend was in the garage on the other side of the house. The stove hadn't been turned on that day. Shortly after this, the next time Mike turned on those lights in the bedroom, my mom let him know that she was going to be okay and that he should move on.

• 37:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 37:39Corinne Vien?

  I don't think she heard from him again after that. My cousin and I both had dreams about him apologizing and saying his goodbyes. Okay, now on to Sven. I've been in my current house for almost 10 years. I've had a couple spooky sightings of maybe something in the dark corner or hearing someone walking around the hall when everyone's asleep. Or my favorite is what I assume to be a cat jumping on my bed at night to go to sleep with me.

• 38:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love a cat ghost.

• 38:02Corinne Vien?

  Last night, I was watching one of your older episodes while getting ready for bed. It was your fifth anniversary where there was something going on with a candle and you kept apologizing in your episode if it ended up haunting your watchers, which I've heard you do multiple times in episodes, and thought, well, how can a ghost haunt me from watching a podcast through YouTube?

• 38:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Good question. Listen to our show and find out.

• 38:23Corinne Vien?

  I head into my room with that episode still playing and I tell my dog to get out of my spot in the bed. As soon as I go to lie down, my CPAP machine turns on and starts blowing air. It has never done that before on its own. The hose is under my pillow, the machine is over on my nightstand, which is hard to reach once I'm in bed. My dog, who normally sleeps with me, leaves and then comes back, but he won't get into the bed.

• 38:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I've got chills.

• 38:47Corinne Vien?

  I found her on the couch in the morning. I turn it off. I finish the episode while lying in bed, playing some games, something I do every night before falling asleep. I make sure my alarm is set for 5:00 a.m. and I go to sleep. I woke up to the alarm going off. I tried to snooze it, but the buttons on the screen are different than normal. So I figure it out. I put the phone down and then again alarm goes off. Snooze, again snooze. Ooh, I am tired. I'm snoozing it for the max amount of time now. So I have to go back in and I have to set the time for later. I set it to 6:10 a.m. I don't know why I set this time, but I did. I go back to turn off the display and the time catches my eye. I unlock my phone. I look at the time. I lock my phone. I look at the time. It's 3:10 a.m.

• 39:31Corinne Vien?

  How is it 3:10 a.m.? I've been snoozing my 5 a.m. alarm and then I set it for 6:10. I go into the kitchen. I look at the time on the stove and on the microwave. It is 3:10 a.m.

• 39:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, woo.

• 39:44Corinne Vien?

  I check my phone again. The alarm is set for 6:10. So that wasn't a dream. I think that's what I get for doubting that I could be haunted through YouTube. Needless to say, I didn't get much sleep after that and I just had to tell you before I forgot. Thank you for your podcast. We have lots of haunted places for you to visit here in Arizona. With their old haunted hotels. See you on the other side, Tiffany.

• 40:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sorry for haunting you Tiffany.

• 40:06Corinne Vien?

  I know. It's a little bit of Sven and it's a good monster, which is.

• 40:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Monster lizard.

• 40:11Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I thought. Oh, no, I just mean like in total from the.

• 40:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, the monster. Yeah. Mike. Oh, that's like very, very sweet. But in terms of Sven or potential Sven haunting. So at first I thought maybe the seat pop machine turning on was like ghost cat jumping on to the bedside table or something like that. But then the alarm aspect.

• 40:31Corinne Vien?

  Keeps going on.

• 40:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 40:33Corinne Vien?

  At first I was like, oh, maybe there's something wrong. You know, like it's alerting you like if there's like a house fire or something's going on or something and you needed to be awake for it to make sure you were safe. But it doesn't sound like anything happened. And her dog, the poor sweet baby was afraid and like didn't even want to be in the room. Stayed in the living room. So there was something in that room with her.

• 40:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that's spooky. Let us know if it happens again.

• 40:55Corinne Vien?

  But I did like this story for the monster aspect because I wanted to include this as proof that like sometimes when your kids are like, there's a monster. But sometimes the monster is just like your own relative.

• 41:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 41:06Corinne Vien?

  Or loved one playing with your kids.

• 41:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But sometimes it isn't.

• 41:10Corinne Vien?

  But sometimes it isn't. And I'm sure Sabrina is about to share with us one that is not.

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• 42:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is called "The Haunting That Made Me Believe in Evil."

• 42:20Corinne Vien?

  Okay. Hard pivot.

• 42:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is from Anonymous.

• 42:24Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 42:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So our listener-

• 42:26Corinne Vien?

  Which honestly, that scares me more that it's from Anonymous. It's like, why can't you let your identity be known? Is it that bad?

• 42:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I actually loved Ghosties Podcast. Did a whole episode where it was like, stories from anonymous listeners. And I was like, ooh, that's such a fun spooky idea.

• 42:41Corinne Vien?

  That is.

• 42:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because it is more ominous. There's like something like, ugh.

• 42:45Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, like, why, why? What do you have to hide?

• 42:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. Hello, ghostesses. I'm feeling very called to share my most harrowing, haunting experience with you because I believe it is something you would both appreciate. I'm a new listener, as of just a couple of weeks ago, and I am hooked. They're our neighbor! I grew up on the North Shore in Massachusetts, and I'm no stranger to the paranormal encounters, but you're a stranger to everyone who's listening.

• 43:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm also a Reiki master. Ooh. And I'm a little bit more spiritually inclined than the average folk. Do you practice anywhere on the North Shore? What if you knew? Do we know each other? I don't know. Do they still live on the North Shore? They went to Salem State University. So did I for grad school. I know. Okay, but when I was going to Salem State for college, I spent a couple of years living in a condo on the border of Salem with my roommate. My uncles are builders, contractors, masons, et cetera, and they've built many things in that area, that condominium being one of them. Hence why I was able to actually afford living in a condo while in college. During the tour, the previous tenant started by locking the door behind us and saying, "You have to keep the door locked or it opens on its own."

• 43:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kind of creepy, but you know. There were a few things that they showed us, like the window being taped up and extra locks on the doors, that I didn't give second thought to because I was more excited that I was moving out on my own. Those quirks aside, the condo was less than five years old and absolutely beautiful. Each bedroom had its own bathroom. The living room was large with a little balcony. It was perfect. But on my first night there, it wasn't the excitement that kept me awake. It was the footsteps pacing around the living room. Oh, my God. I figured it was just my roommate maybe adjusting the air conditioning and having a hard time settling in, so I wrote it off. The next morning, when she woke up, she asked me, "Were you playing with the AC last night? I heard you walking around." I chuckled nervously.

• 44:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  "No, I thought that was you." I honestly hadn't left my bedroom once that night, and according to her, neither did she. Every night, we would hear these footsteps walking around the living room. And when I mentioned it to the landlord, their answer was that we were probably hearing the people above us. And anyone who has lived in an apartment or a condo knows the difference between the sounds of someone in the room next to you and the sound of someone walking above you. Those are two very, very different sounds. Either way, the footsteps were just the beginning. About a month into living there, things really started to amp up. I was laying on my bed, studying with my back to the bedroom door, when boom, it flung open. Something in me said not to look. That whatever I did, I absolutely should not turn around.

• 45:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was so terrified that I didn't move until the sun came up the next day. My roommate and I learned to lock our bedroom doors because if we didn't, they would open on their own, like the front door. Soon, doors would routinely open and close. Things would go missing and turn up somewhere else. And we would hear scratching and whispering throughout the condo. This entity, or whatever it was, was so strong that we could roll a ball anywhere in the unit, and it would literally roll it back to us.

• 45:50Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 45:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh. Sickening.

• 45:52Corinne Vien?

  Ugh.

• 45:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We really stretched this experiment, too. We would bounce the ball off walls, roll it into a different room, and it would always return to us.

• 46:03Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I hate it and I love it at the same time.

• 46:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's terrifying. Too conscious, too aware. It almost became a party trick, like, ooh, look what our ghost does. It can roll the ball back to you, open doors and shut them, which almost feels too taunting. Clearly, this story is what made our listener believe in evil. But it feels playful at first. It's like interacting, but it's what it wants. Getting stronger. There was so much that happened, but I will try to keep this as concise as possible. Living there was when I first started having sleep paralysis, and it happened often enough that I'm pretty certain that what I'm about to tell you next was not sleep paralysis, but was in fact something very, very different. One night, I woke up to the lock of the door jiggling. I looked over, despite everything in my brain telling me not to.

• 46:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And what came through my door was what I can best describe as a bipedal creature that was hairless. It was disgusting and had a head similar to a dog. Oh. It's like the dog you showed us. Yeah. But it's tall. And it's in Salem. I covered myself with a blanket with some childish hope that if I was under the covers, the monster couldn't get me. But no, that thing leapt onto my chest.

• 47:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And for whatever reason, I yelled, "Get off me, demon." I threw the covers off, turned on the light. I was not religious. I never went to church. And I wholeheartedly believed that evil only existed in people and made for a good fictional story. So calling that thing demon, I even shocked myself. When doing a sanity check in the morning, I saw three scratches down my stomach.

• 47:36Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 47:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I slept with the light on every night after that. At least once a week, I would wake up with scratches on me, fresh scratches on me. And the paranormal events became daily occurrences. We would come home to see things stacked up. We would be sitting, watching TV, and something in the kitchen would just start moving. Things would fly off of counters. Pictures would fall off of walls. And we would see a dark, shadowy man walk around. I sage the place. I tried to clear the energy. I did everything I could, but nothing helped. If anything, doing any of this made the entity angry, and things only got worse. This medium made it clear she was uncomfortable in the apartment and wanted to leave. But I really needed to know what she was picking up on. She told me that she felt there was something wrong with the entire building, and she felt it the minute she came near the building.

• 48:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she believed that it was a portal. Since she had acknowledged that there was something sinister about the place, I asked her, "Who's the man standing behind me?" I could feel the shadowy man there. And she replied, "I don't like him. I don't have a name for him, but I think I need to say it out loud. You need to move out. This entity is going to try to stop you, but you need to leave." She then went on to say, "What I mean by him trying to stop you is he's going to put things into your head. He's going to try to keep you sad and keep you stuck here. If you don't move out, he is going to try and possess you because he likes your energy and likes to attach himself to it." While I felt validated,

• 49:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  she left me with a whole lot of questions and fear. But she did also leave a little glass angel figurine in a plastic box. So I left this angel on the counter, and I went to bed that night. In the morning, when I went to retrieve this angel, it was smashed to pieces.

• 49:18Corinne Vien?

  What the fuck? Leave that day. That is terrifying.

• 49:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The box never moved from where I had placed it, but somehow this figurine had been destroyed inside a sealed, plastic box overnight.

• 49:31Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. That makes me so curious about the last tenant, too. Because they obviously were experiencing things when they're like

• 49:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The door keeps opening.

• 49:38Corinne Vien?

  And there's like too many locks and stuff where it's like, was it because the demon kept opening it? Or were they being given intrusive thoughts about like

• 49:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 49:46Corinne Vien?

  People breaking in or the fear of like something on the outside? Ooh, ooh.

• 49:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I also

• 49:52Corinne Vien?

  This is right here.

• 49:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I also just think about Salem because we already know that Salem has so much energy that like the history speaks for itself. But then it attracts a whole crowd of people to Salem that while some and many are very respectful, I also imagine it attracts the other side where people are like, ooh, this is the perfect place for me to conjure something. This is the perfect place for me to like fuck around and find out. And you don't know what people are opening.

• 50:21Corinne Vien?

  Friends that are skeptical and maybe taunt unknowingly taunt things.

• 50:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 50:24Corinne Vien?

  And we will say while Salem as a community and most of the shop, I keep saying shop owners instead of just like

• 50:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Business owners?

• 50:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, business owners, like shop owners or shopkeepers.

• 50:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The shopkeepers. I like calling them shopkeepers.

• 50:37Corinne Vien?

  I know, I kept saying that the other day and I was like, this is very old school.

• 50:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I like it.

• 50:41Corinne Vien?

  The business owner.

• 50:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:42Corinne Vien?

  But the shopkeepers of Salem, for the most part, everyone is so lovely and it's like such a good community and everyone knows each other. But we, I think you're in agreement here that like in the past few years, there's been one or two

• 50:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 50:54Corinne Vien?

  new things that have opened that kind of play in.

• 50:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To more demonic

• 50:58Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 50:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  things that have bad vibes.

• 51:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 51:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, our listener anonymous says, this is the final incident that finally caused me to move out. Not the angel figurine being smashed, but this. My roommate left for work. I needed to shower before going to class. My bathroom is attached to my bedroom and I was scared to be in there at this point, but I left both the bathroom and bedroom doors wide open. While I was showering, both doors slammed shut and a few seconds later I heard a loud whack where the light switch was and the bathroom light turned off, plunging me into darkness. I jumped out of the shower shampoo partially rinsed and all, and I never slept in that place ever again. The kicker really came at a family party a few weeks after I moved out. When my uncle said to me, I heard you moved out.

• 51:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I stared at him for a few moments, trying to figure out how he even knew about me moving out because I had not told anyone in the family. And without me saying anything, my uncle continued, "A lot of freaky-deaky stuff happens there." And I said casually, "Yeah, some really weird things did happen." My other uncle, who also worked on this building, chimes in, "Hey, isn't that the place where we found the bones when we were building there?"

• 52:09Corinne Vien?

  What the fuck? Why don't you say something before she moves in?

• 52:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, because they've been working, how many buildings have they built that they found bones? Especially in New England, especially in like the San Diego area, there's probably a lot of... Yeah.

• 52:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So yeah, come to find out, my uncle's found human remains in the spot where they built those condos.

• 52:29Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my god.

• 52:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have a plethora of paranormal stories, but this one by far is the one that made me believe that sometimes a bump in the night is way more than just residual energy or a loved one checking in. Stay spooky, ladies, from Anonymous.

• 52:43Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 52:46Corinne Vien?

  That feels close to home, because it is.

• 52:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It literally is.

• 52:49Corinne Vien?

  It made me nervous.

• 52:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 52:51Corinne Vien?

  You know how like they brought in the psychic? It makes me curious if there's a reputation of certain buildings where if like psychics are like, "Oh, my god, I got another call from a new tenant at the same place."

• 53:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You know what actually this kind of reminds me of? And it's very different, but remember when we had Morgan and Taylor of Creeps and Crimes on? And Morgan was telling us about the apartment she lived in and the roommate? Or the girl next door who was like doing weird stuff on the patio, like occult things?

• 53:16Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 53:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It kind of reminds me of that, like you don't know what your neighbors are doing.

• 53:19Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 53:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it sounds like this building maybe just was always going to be creepy.

• 53:24Corinne Vien?

  Right, yeah, from the get-go, the bones and stuff.

• 53:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What are other people who live there? Where is this building? I want to drive past it.

• 53:30Corinne Vien?

  Well, and the fact that they're like, it will continue to drain you. It's not just like an unrestful spirit of whoever died there. It feels like maybe something bad happened or just the energy from different people and it was festering and going to... That actually made me, like while you were saying that, I was thinking about like, when I went through all the postpartum anxiety and depression, I was like, oh, my god. Like, I normally am like, a little bit cocky, being like, oh, yeah, I think I could maintain myself or like a semblance of like normalcy when undergoing poltergeist activity. But I was thinking, I was like, if I was dealing with that postpartum, I think I would lose myself very quick.

• 54:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 54:09Corinne Vien?

  You would have to come to the house.

• 54:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You literally did lose a piece of yourself. Your mom saw, multiple people saw versions of you.

• 54:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 54:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You got to retrieve that girl. I'm just a girl.

• 54:18Corinne Vien?

  And instead, I'll just... Cut bangs. Which actually, like, I didn't cut bangs. These are my postpartum. I literally walked in today and I was like, oh my god, you did bangs! And I loved them. They looked so good. And I was like, no, this isn't haircut. But I think I am gonna cut. As you can see, there's like, parts of bangs that weren't actually, um, Yeah, no, this is your new growth. But I just. It looks so good. I brushed them all forward and then I was like, oh my god, they're actually like, Bang. Bang length. So we're, we're trying it out. Big fan. Thanks. Anywho, back to the monsters. Cryptid in the woods of Canada, question mark? Oh. Hi, my name is Abby. I'm 22. You can use my name. So not anonymous Abby. I'm a witchy granola girl who spends every waking moment outside when I'm not at my nine to five or ghost hunting.

• 55:03Corinne Vien?

  Ooh. My best friend and I are very open to the paranormal, and by that, I mean, we see things in the middle of the road late at night and experiencing full-blown paranormal encounters on a regular basis. I love that for you. This stuff doesn't really freak us out anymore. I used to be the night manager at a fast food restaurant that was extremely haunted. Ooh. I'll send a second email about that later, but I had to send this one in first because it has been disturbing me for months. What is it? I live in Ontario, Canada. While it's not quite Appalachia, I was raised with the similar unspoken rules because I do live on indigenous land. The lore here is strong and all of our parks are also indigenous lands. So basically, close your blinds when it gets dark, don't open your door if you're not expecting anyone.

• 55:47Corinne Vien?

  If you hear your name or see something, know you don't. Follow these rules. I follow them religiously because of all that weird stuff that I've seen. Was this also just like a good rule for no matter where you are, for like, just like human monsters and creeps around? Yeah. Okay, the story. This past February, my parents and I went camping in Matawan. I hope I said that right. We stayed in one of those fancy dome tent things. Cool. Let's just say the spot we picked was in the middle of absolutely nowhere and we had no cell service. Hmm. The moment we arrived, I had the most uneasy feeling. My parents brushed it off, saying it was just because I'm 22 and I have no phone access. But in reality, I camp in these conditions regularly, often alone, so that was not my issue.

• 56:31Corinne Vien?

  My real alarm came when I stepped into the tent and I realized there were no curtains. It was just a giant clear window looking directly into the thick woods. And this area is known for high levels of activity. I ignored my gut since I was with my family, but spoiler, I should have listened. That night started out fine. We were having a fire in the dark and I began to hear some wolves. At first it didn't bother me, but after a while it started kind of to distort, like sounded less like wolves, more like something else. That's when I went inside the dome and I started reading. After everyone fell asleep, I continued to stay awake.

• 57:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's also creepy because it's one of those domes where you can like see out.

• 57:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 57:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, oh, it doesn't really feel like you're protected.

• 57:14Corinne Vien?

  Right. Like, I want the dome to be open only on top, so you can see just the stars, but like, seeing what's next to you outside is really creepy.

• 57:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 57:21Corinne Vien?

  Normally I sleep better camping than I do in my own bed, but this night I could not shake the feeling that I was being watched. Against my own rules, I looked outside. Of course, it was 3:33 a.m. and I swear, I saw the most terrifying thing. A massive, half hairless, half dog, half human creature.

• 57:42Corinne Vien?

  It looked completely wrong. I had the worst gut drop feeling that I have ever experienced and I wasn't about to go outside. So I rolled over, I pretended it didn't exist. But here's the part that really still disturbs me. From that night on, nothing in my life has ever been the same. My parents went through a messy divorce. I've lost contact with most of my family. One of my parents who was there that night has completely changed and not in a good way. And even though I was the only one who saw it, I can't help but feel like that bad energy from the forest followed us. And whatever that thing was, it definitely did not want us there. This is from Abby.

• 58:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Uh, well, now I'm curious how many people who stayed in this specific dome have seen this entity? Cause it's like you're on its land. And is it a knot deer? Is it a flesh pedestrian? Is it a werewolf? I, I don't know.

• 58:34Corinne Vien?

  I don't know. It is weird that it did sound like wolves for so long.

• 58:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It reminds me of Professor Lupin. Or from Wednesday, what's it called? The big buggy eyed.

• 58:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah. I keep wanting to say it's a hound, but it's not. What do they call them? It's a Hyde.

• 58:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A Hyde.

• 58:50Corinne Vien?

  Wait, I did see an interview where the actor who plays the Hyde, obviously he couldn't tell anyone like the plot of Wednesday. And he said he was texting with one of his friends and he was like, oh, were you like shocked by the twist? Like to learn that I was the Hyde. The guy goes, no, I knew it all the time. You guys have the same hair. He was like, I was so insulted. Like, what do you mean we have the same hair?

• 59:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is so funny.

• 59:14Corinne Vien?

  I'm like, yeah, no, you're here the same.

• 59:18Corinne Vien?

  Oh, but creepy, creepy, creepy.

• 59:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Good to have a little laugh after that terrifying story.

• 59:22Corinne Vien?

  It's just a wee chuckle.

• 59:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it's Halloween, it's October, and we do more haunting than we do chuckling this month.

• 59:30Corinne Vien?

  So join us again.

• 59:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're just two girls.

• 59:32Corinne Vien?

  We're just two girls.

• 59:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So keep emailing us your spooky encounters, send them to [email protected]. And before you go to bed tonight, check under your bed, lock your closets, lock your door, close your blinds, and set your intentions and boundaries and hope to goodness you're alone in your room tonight.

• 59:53Corinne Vien?

  I feel like I shouldn't say anything more. That was amazing. But I do want to say thank you to Emma and Jamie, who are part of our team and edit and produce and do all the business stuff, social, help us with everything so we can continue to deliver spooky tales.

• 1:00:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 1:00:06Corinne Vien?

  Thank you to all of you for contributing your spookiness.

• 1:00:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love you all.

• 1:00:10Corinne Vien?

  And we will. See you on the other side.

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