The Snack: Celibate Celebs, Selling Sunset, and Starbucks Pandemonium

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Celebs who aren't having sex A blue wave on election day Trump boo'd at the Commanders game Selling Sunset season 9 recap All's Fair getting panned Kim K. and Kris Jenner delete photos of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Headlines: Starbucks Bearista cup causes pandemonium, Zendaya won't do press with Sydney Sweeney Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for live show tickets and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Hers: Get a personalized perimenopause treatment plan at https://forhers.com/GGE. Saks Fifth Avenue: Head to Saks Fifth Avenue or saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style. Addyi: Learn more at https://addyi.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  This week on The Snack, celebrities who aren't having sex, Donald Trump getting booed, Starbucks Barista Cup, and Selling Sunset, Season 9.

• 0:09Rayna Greenberg?

  This is a Dear Media production.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Enjoy.

• 0:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome back to The Snack.

• 0:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Here we are.

• 0:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Our tummies are a little fucked up.

• 0:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, we watched the Eagles game last night. Go Birds, 7-2. And we went to this sports bar, which we love, Jameson, but we just went all in on like chicken tenders, fries, a pretzel.

• 0:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Drinking ranch.

• 0:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  So many sauces.

• 0:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Beer.

• 0:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  So much beer. Okay, Raina, are they always two-for-one beers, or am I just lucky to always be there?

• 0:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Weeknights, I think they're two-for-one beers, and they bring you both of them at the same time.

• 0:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  You can't stagger them. Like, you can't get them at different times. And it's two-for-one every drink, right? You guys who are getting vodkas, two-for-one?

• 0:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Two-for-one vodkas, tequilas. I do get it. They bring it at the same time, because they're like, "I'm not taking extra steps to bring in your free drink." I do get it. But it is like a bucket of beer, and you're like, "By the time I get through this bucket, the other bucket is warm."

• 1:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, so I guess the way to do it is one person orders for two. So if you want to drink the same thing... But I just, like, I'm never there when it's not two-for-one. And I feel like I've been there at different times. To me, it feels illegal.

• 1:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Just Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I don't think they do it. But the weekdays, they will fuck you up.

• 1:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. But I am like, "This was my dream in college." Like, I just want to go back to my college self and be there. Two-for-one.

• 1:37Rayna Greenberg?

  It would never have crossed my mind in college, or my 20s. I can't finish this quick enough for it to reach a warm temperature level.

• 1:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I tell you? I've been there quite, like, quite a few times. And every time I ask, "Can I just get the next beer when I'm ready for it?" And they say, "No." Like, I can't seem to retain. Like, "You have to bring me two Big Gulps."

• 1:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, they also don't ask, you know this? So I went with my, I went with Sexy with a hot neighbor a couple of weeks ago, and he wasn't drinking. And so I ordered a beer, and they brought two beers over. And I was like, "Oh, I didn't order two beers." And she's like, "You get a second for free anyways."

• 2:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what feels illegal.

• 2:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't even ask for a second one.

• 2:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what feels illegal. They're like, "Oh, you have to drink it."

• 2:18Rayna Greenberg?

  You have to have it.

• 2:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  "Did you drive here? Too bad. Here's your second giant cup of alcohol."

• 2:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I think it's, I went to college and then went to Atlanta and in both places, the South is weird with alcohol rules and stuff. Like, the whole time I was in college, I think I've told you this, it was all airplane bottles, mini bottles behind the bar. There was no free pour. They've since changed it.

• 2:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, they opened, like, nips for every drink?

• 2:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, for every drink. Real

• 2:45Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 2:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  climate-friendly stuff in South Carolina.

• 2:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Single-use liquor bottles.

• 2:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  But, so, no free, no, out, big, it was crazy to see behind every single bar in Clemson was up, rows of mini bottles. And then, but there were still crazy happy hour specials and we would get fucked up, whatever. And it was cheap, it was a college town. And then when I moved to Atlanta, there was, like, happy hour rules, because it encourages binge drinking. And so, there was weird happy hour, like, I've just been around these rules where I'm like, there are rules to curb people's drinking and not at Jameson.

• 3:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Not at Jameson. They're like, you're gonna get both of these even if you don't want it. When she brought me that second beer, I was like, I wasn't planning on drinking a second beer. And she was like, you have to. It just comes with it.

• 3:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was so funny.

• 3:26Rayna Greenberg?

  And then I went home. So, we had, um, we had Taylor Strecker and her wife, Taylor Donahue, on the show yesterday, which will come out next week. But I went home with them. They stayed at my place last night.

• 3:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Two weeks, but yeah.

• 3:35Rayna Greenberg?

  So, it'll come out in two weeks. They stayed at my place last night and, like, we just sat in bed together, the three of us. And it is so much better than having a sleepover with your, like, friend that's dating, like, a ma, that's married to a male partner. Because I could never, like, sit in bed with them.

• 3:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is this an attack? You're like, by the way, don't ever come over with him.

• 3:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Don't have a sleepover with me with him.

• 3:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have a big question. And I'm just gonna find this out for the first time on air. Did they sleep in your bed?

• 4:00Rayna Greenberg?

  No. And I insisted that they do, because Taylor Donahue was pregnant. And I was like, there's two of you, it was actually three of you, you should have the king-size bed. They refused.

• 4:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  I told them to take your room.

• 4:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I told them.

• 4:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  When you get that opportunity to upgrade. Rayna Greenberg's bedroom, you guys, is the best hotel room in town. It is so nice and fancy and it has such a great vibe. It's so gorgeous. And so, when you were offered them, your bedroom, I was like, take it. Rayna wants to be in her guest room. She likes to be in there sometimes.

• 4:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I do.

• 4:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  She likes to have a little staycation in her own home.

• 4:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I've been flying economy lately, okay? And they got an upgrade from Comfort To Delta One and they stayed in Comfort Plus. I don't get it.

• 4:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Taylor Donahue is six feet tall, eight months pregnant. Take the king bed, sis.

• 4:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Didn't want to do it. They're like, we don't want, we don't want to misplace you. I was like, I don't, I can sleep on, I can sleep on the bench at the foot of the bed and have a bloody room.

• 4:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I will displace someone in their home all day if it's offered to me.

• 4:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 4:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Megan in the Hamptons, we were in her bedroom. She was like, I insist. I was like, if you insist.

• 5:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, if I was one week pregnant, I'm going to take advantage. I'll take your seat. I'll take your seat. I'll jump you in line. I'll definitely take your bed.

• 5:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I would never think I was entitled to it, but if you offer.

• 5:11Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, I'm insulted.

• 5:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, you should be. Okay.

• 5:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. All right. We'll thank our partners. We'll jump right into it. Thanks to Hers. Get a personalized perimenopause treatment plan at forhers.com/gg.

• 5:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Saks Fifth Avenue. Head to Saks Fifth Avenue or saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style. And thank you to Addy. Learn more at addyi.com. Okay, so we're kicking this off. This is a report. You've had this in the works for, for a week at least. I saw it on the outline last week. I was like, this is good. So just fill us in.

• 5:40Rayna Greenberg?

  We have a celibacy report for you guys. And we've actually talked about doing the whole episode on this. So we're going to just tell you everybody that's celibate right now. And then we'll talk about it later.

• 5:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let us know if you're one of them in the comments.

• 5:51Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm just, I'm so, I feel like, I did somebody's podcast the other day and he asked me like, how many, he was like, do you think there's couples that like, really don't have sex? And I was like, I think it would blow your mind how many couples don't have sex.

• 6:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. And this, let's just call back to our episode about how often are couples having sex, which was a solo that we did a month or two ago at this point. I don't know. I feel like July was yesterday. So I have no idea when it was, the way this second half of the year has flown by. But I think a lot of couples are, are not having sex. And I don't know that all of them think it's a problem.

• 6:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I agree. I was, I was on Jason Tatum's podcast. It will come out. And he said like,

• 6:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I don't, I'm not saying it is either.

• 6:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's probably pretty common. That it goes for months, if not years. And I think some people are like, I don't care.

• 6:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't care.

• 6:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Literally don't care. Okay, so multiple celebrities have come out and basically said that they are not having sex. So Khloe Kardashian said that since Tristan in 2021, she has not had sex.

• 6:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like not fucked anybody?

• 6:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Not fucked anybody. And I, she says she's very happy. She's like, I can't believe it. I really believe it. She's like, I got my two kids. I have the biggest feeling known to man. I just don't need like a man in my life. Also, if I was Khloe Kardashian and I had had that much emotional turmoil with men in my life, the amount of like cheating and drug issues she's had to deal with, and I think I would be all set on men.

• 7:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  So what she says, I'm mortified that it's even my truth. This December will be four years. She said in an interview with Elle, I get a little embarrassed. I'm like, this is so pathetic. But once you get to a certain place, you think, no, this is so special. I feel so good. It's so easy to hook up with other people and distract yourself. When I was going through my breakup, it would have been so easy to deflect and hook up with someone else. I mean, I don't know. Like, this is the thing. I've been thinking about this a lot, too. Even just being in a relationship where my, our sex life has changed. It's been years. We live together. We're married now. And I'm not as horny as I was at early days. This is not a hot take. This is what happens in long-term relationships. I guess some people, again, stay that horny forever. But I think some people are like,

• 7:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm not missing it. And if I want to have an orgasm, I can have an orgasm. I think sometimes maybe you just want someone to lay on top of you. Then you can easily do that. I don't think people are feeling such a void if they're celibate. I truly, I'm not calling their bluff on when they're saying I'm happy, truly.

• 8:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Hundred percent. What I miss is like feeling like I have a true partner and teammate in life. And yeah, I'd love to have sex every single day. But the thing that I miss is having just day-to-day intimacy with somebody.

• 8:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, right.

• 8:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Next up, this actually blew my, the Khloe Kardashian thing was not that shocking to me because she's just been through so much. Like, I understand just writing off mad and being like, I'm all set. But Rachel Kirkconnell said that she also has not had sex in years, despite being with Matt James.

• 8:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I wouldn't want to fuck Matt James.

• 8:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Dear Father God.

• 8:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so you guys, people listening, you probably don't know who these are. Some people, some of you won't. They were a Bachelor.

• 8:50Rayna Greenberg?

  You really got two digs in on Matt James. That was great.

• 8:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Listen, you probably don't know Matt James, but if you do, you wouldn't want to fuck him. I mean, I always thought Matt James, these are Bachelor Nation people and they had a public breakup and God was involved in all the stuff in the breakup post, but I thought he was so hot, obviously. He's gorgeous. And then especially post breakup and I started to just be curious about his content. And I'm just, he's such an ick to me.

• 9:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't even watch his content.

• 9:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just, he is so unfuckable to me.

• 9:23Rayna Greenberg?

  A hundred percent. I mean, I don't blame her. Like, I'm all, I gotta watch you do cheese pools with this sandwich and I gotta film it?

• 9:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, when they were breaking up, I was being served compilations of the way he treated her, too.

• 9:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Just how rude he was there?

• 9:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, just, and like pushed her in the pool once, like little stuff that you're like, I don't want, like, let that love never find me. So that doesn't make you want to fuck somebody either, but then they probably just should have broken up, which they did.

• 9:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, the way he broke up with her, if you guys are not familiar, she was on a plane on the way back, right, from a trip they take it to London or something, and he posted on Instagram that he had broken up with her.

• 9:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Surprise.

• 9:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I think that that caliber of person, I don't think that that was, I think that that was shocking to her, but I think that is the caliber of human being that he is. And so to your point, she was with somebody that I wouldn't want to sleep with.

• 10:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I think that's interesting to come out and, because a lot of people feel shame around that. Like, I wasn't having sex in my relationship, even if you broke it up. So I, I like that she came out and said that. I think it's just, this is why we wanted to do this episode that we did is to normalize the amount of sex or lack of that people are having in relationships, because people feel so much shame around it.

• 10:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that like, if I really ran the tape, I've had a lot of friends over the years that have broken up with a partner, that I thought they had a pretty solid relationship, and they will tell you after the fact, like, we haven't had sex in six months.

• 10:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 10:41Rayna Greenberg?

  We maybe have sex once a month.

• 10:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally.

• 10:43Rayna Greenberg?

  And then finally, to round this out, this was a few weeks ago, so this is in October, but Julia Fox was giving an interview, and she also says that she, she doesn't identify as celibate, but she says, "I just can't find anybody to fuck, and I don't want to. And until men present themselves as fuckable, I will just not have sex."

• 10:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I wonder how she likes to be fucked, though. Like, you fucked Kanye. Like, you, maybe you have a different type of bar.

• 11:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I do forget about Kanye sometimes.

• 11:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 11:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I just want to know what Julia Fox is looking for. She used to be a, um, sex work, no. She used to be a escort or stripper.

• 11:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I cannot tell you. And her memoir is like one of the number one memoirs. And I like, do you want to get it? And I don't.

• 11:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  She was a dominatrix. She's had, she has had, I don't want to misspeak on her. I'm a fan. She has had a history in a sex industry, right? We've got to read that memoir. I, I wanted to read it.

• 11:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Even, you know, I got all the time in the world.

• 11:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll read that memoir. We wanted, we've talked about having her on.

• 11:45Rayna Greenberg?

  This is your year to read.

• 11:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is my reading year. I'm going to be a Pizza Hut with my free personal pan pizza.

• 11:51Rayna Greenberg?

  You're going to be a fashion influencer and a travel influencer and you're going to read.

• 11:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shot my links.

• 11:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I have to go to work next year.

• 11:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's the celibacy report.

• 11:59Rayna Greenberg?

  So we divided up the, there's two reports, actually. We divided up the reports. I took this one, understandably. And Ashley's going to take the next one also, understandably.

• 12:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm just going to do a little political report. So last week on election day was a great day. Democrats swept these elections. There were a lot of historic things that happened and it gave people, including myself, a lot of hope.

• 12:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I was in New York City for Zohran Mamdani, um, for the, for the election results. And it was a big day in New York.

• 12:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, vibes are high. Zohran Mamdani winning that election is shocking in the, the best way. This is a young guy who seemingly came out of nowhere. I mean, clearly he's not a career politician. He's too young to be. He's this democratic socialist. He's a Muslim, like, and he just mopped the floor with Cuomo. And the young people came out to vote. And so the dichotomy of the president and someone like him winning an election is like, it's just, it's the so stark. It's like hard to even comprehend this is happening in the same country.

• 13:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I agree.

• 13:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  So there was him, of course, big day for women winning. Abigail Spanberger is the first female governor of Virginia. And Mikey Sherrill is the first Democratic woman elected as governor of New Jersey. And they were roommates on Capitol Hill six years ago. Did you see this? They were together. So six years ago, they were roommates and freshman members of Congress, part of a record breaking wave of women who helped Democrats win back the US House at that time. And just like Democrats flipped Morgan County in Georgia, almost a 50 point swing from 2024. Prop 50 in California won, which was fun to go vote for that. Took two seconds. Virginia Dems flipped the governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, whatever. There's just tons that happened. It was all blue.

• 13:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was like a real blue wave in states that were, there were elections. So not every state an election. There's it's not like, it's not midterms and it's not presidential. I saw this thing that people. I don't know how it works. Okay, but so people, a lot of people went out in Kentucky to vote and had to be told there's no election. And I saw this and a lot of people in the comments were like, those idiots from Kentucky. I'm like, I don't think, I think a lot of people don't understand when the, if there's an election every year. You had to tell me to go vote for Prop 50. I didn't know. You had to tell me to go down the street and do it. In defense of Kentuckians. Like I was reading the comments and it's like, not everyone knows. I didn't know. If it's not every, if it's not a two year, four year.

• 14:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I also, I was in New York City and did not know the election was that day. I did not. I was like, I think it's this week.

• 14:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  So just a lot of great things. Pennsylvania, like a lot of in Pennsylvania and in Georgia, which are, I mean, can be Pennsylvania is always a swing state, whatever, Georgia. But the anyways, a lot of good stuff happened. And so it really felt like a momentum and clearly a response to the president and the administration that this is what people are voting for. And as it stands now, which it could definitely change, we're recording Tuesday. Obviously this releases Thursday, the government is shut down, is like in limbo because eight Democrat senators have basically voted to reach an end to it. And essentially caved on this deal that does not include the healthcare provision that doesn't help anybody with the main issue. Why the government is shut down with health is healthcare costs rising in the first place.

• 15:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  And people are pissed. People are like, Democrats need to hold the line, you know, like, of course, everybody wants the government to open back up and people to get paid and people to get their jobs back and for air travel to get back to normal. But like, if the whole thing was to make this statement and keep people's healthcare costs affordable, why are you caving? And I think their point, which I'm, I agree with the previous, with that statement, but their point is like, but it's, then it'll never open back up because Donald Trump is not going to, like, the, the, Donald Trump and the Republicans are like, people can suffer as long as they, we don't care, I guess. Trump, certainly. I think obviously people are up for reelection care about the suffering of the American people. But the person at the top, he'll keep it shut down forever. He does, the point is the suffering.

• 16:10Rayna Greenberg?

  My feeling was that this could go on forever. Like, I don't know why it would ever end. Like, this, this will end in 2026. It might end in 2028, we get them out of there. Like, this will go on until the end of time. And every single day, I talk to a different person that is suffering so badly in ways that like, I didn't even think about it. I mean, somebody that we're friends with is a computer programmer employed by the government and both him and his mom don't have an, an income right now. Like, everybody we know, this is like, reaching into their pockets. And all these comedians that we know for like, New York Comedy Week couldn't get to New York to make people happy and tell jokes because the airlines are shut down. Like, it's just horrifying.

• 16:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is horrifying. And of course, I think there are some, obviously, Republicans in Congress who, if nothing else, want to be reelected. And they realize that people fucking hate this. And like, I cannot believe the president is pushing back on SNAP benefits. He's literally like, I want you to go hungry? I mean, how Christian of him. So, I think-

• 17:07Rayna Greenberg?

  You gotta build that ballroom.

• 17:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just, I can't believe what's happening. So, as it stands now, the vote is going to the House. And this will probably be dated by the time this airs. But it just goes to show how unpopular all this is, clearly, and why Trump was booed relentlessly at the Washington Commanders game, which was my porn.

• 17:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Can I just tell you, like, articles started coming out that he was booed so hard at the game. And I saw a couple of articles that said like, cheers and boos. And I was like, who did he contact to get the word cheers put in that? Because it was a booing on a level I've never heard.

• 17:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, you're in Washington DC.

• 17:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 17:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody is employed by the government, so no one is getting money right now.

• 17:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, they hate him there.

• 17:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Hate him.

• 17:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, this is the first sitting president at a regular season game since 1978. So, obviously, he went to the Super Bowl, sometimes, actually, I don't know.

• 18:01Rayna Greenberg?

  He was at a Steelers game. Oh, he was not the president yet.

• 18:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and, and regular season, too.

• 18:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 18:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, excluding playoffs, Super Bowl, whatever. So, it is weird he was there. That's a kind of, sort of unprecedented thing. I mean, since the 70s. And it was, I think, when the Super Bowl, there was a mix of cheers and boos.

• 18:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Definitely.

• 18:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll give him that.

• 18:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 18:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  This was middle fingers in the air, Raina. Like, I could not stop watching it and masturbating to it.

• 18:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, find me a city that's more affected by the government shutdown to show your face.

• 18:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I couldn't believe it. And I was like, go to Philly next, please, God. Send him to a northeast city every Sunday or Monday. Like, I was like, Philly would do the same.

• 18:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Philly fans are terrifying.

• 18:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I will say, though, did you see how he was like, "I then state your name"?

• 18:53Rayna Greenberg?

  He said that?

• 18:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, but here's the thing. It wasn't, it wasn't.

• 18:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina, no, but here's the thing. It wasn't a mistake. That's how you're supposed to read the oath. He would have done it wrong either way. Like, he can barely read. But I, I was sitting there stunned, like, obviously, I was on a high from the booze. And I was like, this is my favorite movie. And then he says, "I", and then "state your name". He read that. But that is how you're technically supposed to read the oath? But it, because you're, but also, why are you reading the oath? Like, you're, he's not giving the oath. He's telling you to give the oath. But were people giving the oath at the Commander's game? No, no, like, their middle fingers were in the air. So, he looked even stupider. But in his defense, I just want to get my facts straight.

• 19:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, it's just like, it's like when people on a teleprompter, wait, one time, what did you say? We were on stage and I had written something in the outline and you read it out loud like Ashley starts.

• 19:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think I said, like, yeah, I think I said, "Ashley reads", but I don't remember. I was like, "Do it a bit", and then I just committed. And the whole rest of the show, I said, "Raina reads".

• 19:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  But he's like famous for fucking up that anyway. Like he can barely read. So I just loved watching that. I mean, he, he's really hated and I, I think some people who voted for him are finally waking up. I mean, shit is so dark. And so that's why I think also people are upset that we really felt like we had this momentum coming out of the elections. And now some of these Democrats are going to cave and like, oh, it was Democrats all along. I don't know. There's just, there's a lot of discourse about it and um, we'll see what happens.

• 20:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. And you know, obviously we know we have a lot of listeners that are affected by this and Ashley and I, like our heart goes out to you and it makes us sick and it's a really horrible thing and we're just, we're sorry.

• 20:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 20:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Let's talk about menopause.

• 20:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  In an, in an ad? Or in general?

• 20:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Actually, the government, wait, didn't today, didn't RFK remove the black box warning on menopause medication? He just took it off. He was like, we don't do that anymore. What about today?

• 21:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I just say that like, I saw those clips and one of the top comments that made me laugh was someone just saying, I can't believe that's his voice. I was like, exactly. My takeaway too. Like, yes, the content of what he's saying, but like, how does a person have a voice like that?

• 21:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Can I ask you a question?

• 21:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 21:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause I asked ChatGPT and it acted like I was a problem. I, ChatGPT, why is his voice like that?

• 21:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  He does have something.

• 21:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Listen, I asked ChatGPT, I just wrote, why is RFK's voice like that? And it wrote back, please explain what you mean. And I was like,

• 21:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  What a fail.

• 21:36Rayna Greenberg?

  What do you mean? What do I mean? And I was like, why does it sound like that? I'm not trying to like, be an asshole. I was genuinely curious.

• 21:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wrong. I get, yeah. Was it the brain worm?

• 21:48Rayna Greenberg?

  His mom had Tylenol when she was pregnant.

• 21:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Chat GPT feels so stupid. They were like, what bitch, what?

• 21:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  What they said to my husband the other day, he was trying to do something with them. He was trying to, he was working, he was collaborating with them, trying to figure something out. And they wrote, this is getting ridiculous. And I thought they were saying like to him, like, you're being ridiculous and this needs to stop. But they meant like, they couldn't figure something out. They were like, this is getting ridiculous. Like, you feel me, bro? But I was, I read it. I, he goes, look what they just said to me. And I was like, that is so mean. Like, that's crazy for, for them to be like, hey, my guy. This is ridiculous.

• 22:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Talking to like a Boston person. It does learn how you speak. I asked it to write me an email in the tone of a Girls Got to Eat listener the other day. A millennial female. It was like, hey, girls, long time listener, first time writer. And I was like, this is so funny.

• 22:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Raina's writing herself emails.

• 22:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm like, dear Chat GPT.

• 22:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  You send me a fan mail.

• 22:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Write this in the tone of my mom and make it sound like she loves me.

• 22:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm just feeling a little down. Oh my gosh.

• 23:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  That is really funny. Can you write me an email telling me how pretty and funny and special I am?

• 23:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Tell me you're proud of me.

• 23:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then send it yourself to this email address.

• 23:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  And really try to make it seem real. You can wait a couple of days.

• 23:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Forget this conversation happened.

• 23:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God, I'm dying. And then Raina's like, oh my God, you are gonna die at this email I got. It is so sweet. It doesn't mention you at all.

• 23:39Rayna Greenberg?

  This is how I get a raise. I just start sending the podcast emails about me. And I'm like, Ashley, I am, I should make 60% of the income.

• 23:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  We have gotten emails that are obviously like, you know, Ashley's the worst, but we love you, Raina. And, and vice versa. But the best one we ever got was a love letter to me that was still sent to our work shared email and said, sorry, Raina, this isn't for you. And then went on to profess his love. Tell me what he wanted to do to me sexually. Uh, that was something else.

• 24:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Not for Raina's eyes.

• 24:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not for Raina's eyes. Meanwhile, Raina read the whole thing. I was like, I'm mortified. I don't even know this person. And this is so embarrassing.

• 24:17Rayna Greenberg?

  That's how she met her husband.

• 24:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  And now we're married.

• 24:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not that far off from.

• 24:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Exactly what happened. He didn't write the email. Someone else wrote it.

• 24:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  So true. This is getting ridiculous.

• 24:37Rayna Greenberg?

  That's, this is insane.

• 24:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay. Tell us about perimenopause.

• 24:41Rayna Greenberg?

  How am I even gonna do this?

• 24:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm having a hot flash, so I could use it.

• 24:44Rayna Greenberg?

  It's perimenopause.

• 24:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're experiencing hot flashes from laughing too hard.

• 24:49Rayna Greenberg?

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• 25:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which I love.

• 25:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Love.

• 25:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  So important.

• 25:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, and we are gonna have some doctors on the show.

• 25:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yes.

• 25:13Rayna Greenberg?

  And so, um, maybe we can get them to talk about it a little bit. But I'm seeing it all over the place and I'm glad that it's getting, um, the exposure it deserves. But the process is simple on hers. So you start today by completing like a medical intake online form. And then a licensed provider trained in women's health will review your info. And they're gonna create a personalized treatment plan for you. So you don't have to wait around or be at the doctor. I was at the doctor the other day for so long. There's no insurance required. Um, the initial consultation is totally free. And if you're prescribed medication, you'll have access to like a huge variety of clinically prescribed treatment kits, including pills, patches, creams, all tailored to your needs. So they really are this amazing one-stop shop for women. Um, and you can get continuous support through the hers app. They have guidance on sleep, nutrition, exercise, and so forth.

• 25:57Rayna Greenberg?

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• 26:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Imagine RFK Jr. reading that.

• 26:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I'd crush that.

• 26:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, literally, I can't even imagine it.

• 26:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Donald Trump would be like, "Call to action. Make sure you hit these points."

• 26:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Read verbatim.

• 26:52Rayna Greenberg?

  If it's highlighted in yellow, you have to read it.

• 26:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm dead. Who would you rather do your ads, RFK or Donald Trump? Okay, and this episode is brought to you by Saks Fifth Avenue. We are in holiday season, apparently. I cannot believe it's been November. What in the world? Like, it just, it's here.

• 27:13Rayna Greenberg?

  We got there.

• 27:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so if you guys are looking for anything to wear this holiday season to any sort of event, or for gifts for even the pickiest people on your list, head to Saks. You can also curate your holiday wish list to forward to your partner, your friends, your family. I just love it. I am on their holiday party wear category now and just dying over all of this. I mean, all the holiday colors, all of the silvers and golds and reds and greens and shoes and purses and jewelry, everything you could ever want to wear to a holiday party, you guys can look at it on Saks. And I mentioned this before, but I love to look at the men's gift guide. I think men can be hard to shop for, and everything I saw in there, I was like, I can think of who this would go to in my life, whether it's my dad, or my brother, partner, all the things.

• 27:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you can shop for kids at home, check out their holiday gifts and holiday dressing, home holiday shop, holiday experiences.

• 28:06Rayna Greenberg?

  They have great holiday shops on there.

• 28:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, really, really great. And they do so much, and they have personal styling in-store, and then, of course, just online, you can, they'll help you figure out how to pair things and how to style things, which we love, and we're just such fans, and they are our go-to for holiday Party outfits and they should be yours too. So head to Saks Fifth Avenue or saks.com for inspiring ways to shop for everyone on your list.

• 28:33Rayna Greenberg?

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• 28:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I have been hearing about it and seeing it everywhere.

• 28:40Rayna Greenberg?

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• 28:47Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 29:09Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 30:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Addy. Go to A D D Y I dot com to find a provider and use coupon code G G E for a $10 telemed appointment at addyi.com.

• 30:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Selling Sunset, season nine has wrapped, the reunion, everything is out. And you know, I was like out on the show for like a while. I loved this season.

• 30:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  You'll never make me hate this show. I've been locked in for nine seasons. I can't believe it's been that many. I don't, what's another show that I've watched that many seasons? Like you have examples, I feel like Vanderpump, things like that, but nine seasons? I've watched every episode of the show? It's my favorite reality show, I think.

• 31:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Love is Blind.

• 31:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love is Blind, yes.

• 31:04Rayna Greenberg?

  That's a different cast every season.

• 31:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, but these are the two. These are my two favorite reality shows, Love is Blind and Selling Sunset. And I just, I start, I even, I dabbled in Selling OC and I just gave it up. Like, I am just locked in for life on Selling Sunset.

• 31:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll watch it, but I didn't like Love is Blind. This season, it just felt, I will say, like, real storylines. Like, I don't want to say like, real drama, but like, stuff that's actually going on in people's lives, themes that really made a lot of sense to me. They covered the fires in LA, which is hard to get through. And obviously, like, I sobbed through those episodes.

• 31:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 31:33Rayna Greenberg?

  All the people that lost so much. But it just, it felt not that manufactured this season, and I liked it. It just felt really, like, genuine.

• 31:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I, we loved the themes of this season. I mean, we love watching it for the real estate. I mean, I'm obsessed. I just, the fashion, the real estate, and just the overall aesthetic of the show is so, just, is so pleasing to me. I think they did a great job with the fire stuff as well. But this Chrishell and Emma storyline about Emma's schlubby MAGA boyfriend, I couldn't get enough of it. I was like, I could have had this be the whole season.

• 32:10Rayna Greenberg?

  This troll, listen, I only say that because, not of how he looks, but his beliefs. He walked into that restaurant, and I was like, this guy?

• 32:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  My jaw dropped.

• 32:20Rayna Greenberg?

  And then he's shopping around this narrative of like, guacamole, you feel me? No one knows what guacamole is, right? Do you guys know what guacamole is? I was like, is this real?

• 32:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  This guy came in, I did not think he was gonna be that unattractive. So he walks into Casa Madre, in West Hollywood, beautiful place, we've been there. That place got a lot of play. They did dinner there as well, in like, a back, private room.

• 32:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, that's where it was? Okay.

• 32:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which is close to the office, you know, so. He walks in, this, just, he's just, I was repulsed by this 27-year-old spoiled, rich kid who has no culture. Yeah, just, you could, he had just eaten a Taco Bell. He says he's never eaten a fruit or vegetable in his life. He said, "Guacamole, it looks like baby poop, am I right?" And I'm like, ugh! He didn't know where Boston was. On a map. And that's where she's from. He didn't know where Boston was on a map. You are 27. Like, he just repulsed me in every way. And he's got that, like, southern accent, which is like, whatever, that's just personal preference. And then it comes out, he's like, you know, obviously, he's MAGA leaning, and they were talking about him saying the N-word, and this and that, and whatever. They went back and forth about this on the reunion.

• 33:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  But he is so opposite. He's revolting to me. And I couldn't believe it. Emma is this gorgeous, classy, I thought self-made, rich lady herself. What is she doing with him?

• 33:38Rayna Greenberg?

  How many of us have had a friend where you're just like, I feel like the friendship is slipping away, because my friend picked somebody that, like, I don't like, or that doesn't treat them as well as I want them to be treated, which was the storyline between the two of them. But like, I, at least in those situations, for me, and I have a couple of friends this has happened with, I understood the appeal a little bit. I didn't think that they were like... They also alluded to the fact that he is tremendously controlling, that it feels like a dangerous situation for her. So on top of the fact that he is, whatever his political beliefs are, and he's totally uncultured, and he doesn't know where anything is, he doesn't know about food, he also sounds like a relatively, like, dangerous person.

• 34:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what's the craziest part. Like, she is so far out of your league in so many ways, and you treat her like this? Like, they said he gets mad, she said, when he gets mad when she goes to a meeting. This fucking 27-year-old rich kid doesn't want her to work? He gets mad when she goes to a... Like, he's this controlling, manipulative guy. How do you get off acting like that, looking like that? Like, if you're gonna act like that, if you're gonna be controlling and manipulative, and you don't need to work, and you need to be with me, you need to be Christian Grey.

• 34:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Hundred percent.

• 34:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Older, successful, like, you know, cultured, poised, all the things. Like, this schlubby kid...

• 34:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Where is the upside?

• 34:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying!

• 34:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Just the money!

• 34:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  My jaw was on the floor.

• 34:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Then sell me on something other than the fact that it's just for the money.

• 34:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is just for the money.

• 34:55Rayna Greenberg?

  And I thought that she had, I thought she had her own money.

• 34:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Me too.

• 34:58Rayna Greenberg?

  And there's all these scenes where Chrishell, I mean, I do say the tone does feel like she's kind of making fun of Emma, and she's being like, she's like nagging her a little, and she's like, kind of laughing at her. But like, sell me anything good about this guy. Like, how could I take this seriously? I think Emma's like, I feel like you're making fun of me. And like, I don't know. Show me anything about this person that is kind or respectful of other people, and I won't mock this.

• 35:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and then it got deeper into...

• 35:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  If Chrishell just doesn't like him, that's one thing, but you're, she's, Emma's an adult. She can make her own decisions. But the thing that I can't handle with a friend is that you're calling me crying from the bathroom is something that they said, and you're constantly complaining about this person who's hurting you and behaving badly. And then the next thing I know, you are on a plane with them when you're supposed to be committing to something you're doing with me. Like, that's the difference. Like, I have, like, friends, partners I don't like, they're adults. You know, like, I don't, I don't need to be like this. I feel like I was like that when I was younger. You want to meddle a little bit more. And I'm just like, as long as it's not a dangerous situation, it's really none of my business. But it becomes my business when you are talking to

• 36:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  me about it all the time and wanting my advice and my energy and then are just gonna run right back to them.

• 36:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I mean, you know, I've had multiple situations like this. And like, I have to tap out at some point. Like, people really attacked Chrishell for this. Like, your friend wanted you to be there for her and support her. And it's like, but we're human. And at some point, we have to like, you have to tap out at some point. If you're like, I've, I've sunk, what is it, a year and a half, two years into helping you and supporting you and listening to this. And at some point, I'm allowed to throw my hands up and be like, I can't be involved in this anymore. You won't help yourself.

• 36:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yes, exactly.

• 36:49Rayna Greenberg?

  You won't put your, your, what's it, the mask on there.

• 36:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Your oxygen mask on before.

• 36:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I can't just, I can't keep picking you up off the floor. And she, what she said at the reunion was like so powerful to me. And I don't remember the exact line, but the sentiment was like, you're so mad at me for hurting you, but like, you won't go to the source of the hurt, which is him, and fix the actual problem.

• 37:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. And we are not talking about a marriage to salvage with kids. We are talking about you're dating on and off this dumb kid. And I usually really am always on Chrishell's side. I'm just like a Team Chrishell girly. I'm a fan. And- I guess the only thing I really thought was a little out of pocket was the Instagram comment that she left. But I guess where she just, people were saying like, what's going on with you and Emma? And she commented back publicly, like, ask her about her MAGA boyfriend who likes to say the N-word. And it just felt like that was obviously an intentional statement she wanted to make. You know, everyone's gonna pick that up. You know, the press is like, you're making, you're making a statement in an Instagram thread, which felt childish to me and felt a little out of character for her. And that was the only thing that

• 37:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  she lost credibility, in my opinion.

• 37:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I mean, the whole cast turned on her. And I mean, it's not really defensible behavior. Like, Chrishell tried to defend it a little bit. There is no defense. If you, you, that is one of the most inflammatory things you can say about somebody, that their partner says the N-word, and that they refuse to acknowledge pronouns and genders and things like that. And like, what did you think was gonna happen? I mean, the, I'm sure the avalanche of hate that came towards Emma was unbelievable.

• 38:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. And the delivery was, it wasn't like she said this in an interview. She just popped off in a comment. Like, it just like, that gave me the ick a little bit, even though I agree with the sentiment of why you wouldn't like that person. So, that's one part of it.

• 38:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I would have minded it less if it was during a scene that you're filming.

• 38:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 38:39Rayna Greenberg?

  You're on television and someone's like, why don't you like him?

• 38:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  100%.

• 38:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll tell you why I don't like him.

• 38:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, let it fly. But there are some things you shouldn't say in fights, and that was Nicole and Chrishell. And Raina, again, there were two moments where my jaw was on the floor. And when Nicole said the thing about Chrishell's parents, I couldn't believe it.

• 38:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought I misunderstood it. So Nicole said, like, what, ask your, ask your parent, Chrishell's parents are dead. She said, like, ask your parents about...

• 39:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  She just said, like, I think you're projecting. Basically, her sentiment was like, you're projecting on me about drugs. Maybe you're talking about your parents, kind of vibe.

• 39:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought I misunderstood it. I was like, surely this person is not making a comment to a woman who's lost both of her parents.

• 39:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  And like, grew up in poverty, and maybe there were drug issues. I mean, I don't know, the whole history, but... Nicole is the most unlikable character that's ever been on that show in nine seasons, and that's saying a lot because of Christine Quinn. Like, at least Christine Quinn was a good villain.

• 39:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Fun to watch.

• 39:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Trying to explain this to Sparkle Eyes, where I was like, you don't understand, like, because he was in and out. I watched it all in one sitting, and he was working on some stuff, and he, five, six hours straight. And so he's picking up at things here and there. He's like, so we hate her, right? I'm like, yeah, she's so hateable. And I was like, I gotta tell you about Christine, though. And I was like, there used to be this woman, I really stopped being able to even watch her, because I had so much dislike for her. But at least she had the good fashion. She was fun to watch. She was a perfect villain. Nicole is, she's so hateable. Like, I can't stand her.

• 40:06Rayna Greenberg?

  She won't do anything that's likable. She won't, Christina's was at least fun to look at and watch.

• 40:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  She has redemption moments?

• 40:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. I mean, Nicole won't do anything to help herself. I mean, it's almost as though like she's playing a character. Like, I almost can't believe that she's gonna like this. Like, no one would say things like that and then try to like, defend them and back them up. And she came to the reunion, I mean, the way she filibustered, just apologizing to Chriselle, they were like, can you just say you're sorry? And she was like, well, let me ask her.

• 40:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, she was like, well, I didn't say dead parents.

• 40:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was her rebuttal. She's like, for the record, I didn't say dead parents. They are dead. I did call her dead parents, drug addicts, but I didn't say the word dead at the group dinner. And they're like, but you did, so can you apologize? And she's like, let me ask you another thing. Did it insult you? Did it hurt your feelings, though? And Chriselle's like, um, yeah, I don't think it hurt anybody's feelings, kinda. I just hate her. I try, I try not to use the word hate too much. I just, as a character, if she is playing a character, I'm sure she has some redeeming qualities. I cannot stand this woman.

• 41:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't either. And I think she's off the show. They sort of made it seem like Jason was firing her, but she's, he just kicked her off the show.

• 41:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and then Chriselle's not coming back, which I understand, and Chelsea is not coming back, right?

• 41:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, is Chelsea not coming back?

• 41:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just Chriselle announced that she was not coming back. Oh, wait, why did I get Chelsea? Someone told me that.

• 41:33Rayna Greenberg?

  So, Chriselle called out production, because Chelsea gave this interview this week, and I actually really, I liked her in this interview. She was very measured, and she said, you know, I feel that I catch the brunt of a lot of things and people really hate on me for things that other characters do. And it's like, yes, you're such a bad bitch. And I'm, I'm framed as an angry black woman. And I have tried my best to not be like that and to not, to not be called that, essentially. And she says, I, I, I do everything I can. I actually thought this season, she, she just seemed beaten down and sad and, you know, like, like she's had a hard time with her marriage ending.

• 42:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  So she has really had a redemption arc in my eyes. I really disliked her the first season she was on. But here's the thing, and you know this, they bring in a new cast member to stir the pot. That's what they did with Sofia Vergara's cousin, is that they, they, you can feel it. And then you remember that that's what Chelsea's role was too. They bring in the new person and they have them go talk to everybody and stir the pot and get everybody all riled up and then bring it up. Like, I think you're manipulated when you're new like that. And you're not quite sure where you, you haven't gotten your footing yet. And you're just more vulnerable to be manipulated. You're the new kid on the block. So I felt the same way with the new woman this season, that that's what they did to Chelsea. And that's why I did dislike her more. I think they pushed those new people to create drama.

• 42:53Rayna Greenberg?

  That's a good point.

• 42:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  And so I just like her more now. And then we have Flower Gate, which was that Chelsea sent flowers after Mary's house was robbed and Mary accused her of doing it to get air time. And I mean, Mary's reaction was so disproportionate to, I feel like, what happened, I thought was crazy. She just like went totally bananas, but I, she'd been through it.

• 43:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. I mean, I guess, I mean, you and I, I'm sure we both believe that if that would happen to us, but he broke into my, three people broke into my house in broad daylight and stole everything I own and all the most important things in the world, I would have not even a thread of tolerance left for anything and anybody.

• 43:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  For anything, yeah.

• 43:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, she went so nuts. But like, you're so out of body. And I'm sure for a long time, you're out of body and you can't trust anything or anyone. And you're just terrified for your own safety. But she, even in the reunion, which would have been filmed, what, months later?

• 43:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 43:46Rayna Greenberg?

  She insists that Chelsea like coordinated with production to get those flowers delivered. And I asked you if you thought. Well, you tell me, do you think that, do you think she coordinated with production to get it delivered?

• 43:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think-

• 43:56Rayna Greenberg?

  On camera?

• 43:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  That she, I think that production knew she was gonna send the flowers. I don't think she coordinated. I wanna believe that she, on her own accord, which she said, "If I was doing this for airtime, I would've sent you $2,000 flowers and made a big splash." She was like, "These were $150 mid-ass flowers. I just wanted to send them to you." And I think production probably caught wind of it and they did it. That's my take. I also think, I'm with Chelsea, and that flowers are the right move with someone who doesn't like you. I mean, completely stay out of it if you want, but I was saying to you, like, you and I have people in our lives that we are not friends with anymore, that could be a trigger in a dark moment. And I don't think I wanna text from them, but flowers would feel more appropriate.

• 44:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  It feels like farther removed. It feels like, "I'm thinking about you and I'm doing this as a, just, as a kind gesture, but I'm not in your phone." And Mary is screaming, "Why didn't you text me?" And I'm like, and Chelsea's like, "We don't text." So it's like, I was on her side with that being the right move with someone you're not friends with.

• 45:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I also, I don't wanna feel I'm the hook to text you back. I don't wanna feel like I have to respond. Flowers are just sort of like a one-directional-

• 45:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 45:06Rayna Greenberg?

  You got, you sent this little gesture and then it's over. We're not friends. We don't fuck with each other. I'm gonna text you and then you have to text me back.

• 45:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I totally agree. Like, I, we've, we've talked about this. I think of people, I think of one or two people in particular. I don't have a relationship with them anymore. I've lost, God forbid, I have a loss in my family. I don't know. Flowers might be what I would want.

• 45:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I think so.

• 45:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  You heard about it, you wanna do a nice thing, and you don't wanna, like, your name to pop up on my phone as someone that could be a trigger.

• 45:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, we support people the way that we wanna be supported. So like, Chelsea might be like, "Well, I wouldn't wanna see your name pop up my phone." So I'm supporting you the way that I would wanna be supported. And Mary's like, "I want you to text me." No, you don't either.

• 45:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  But Mary, I mean, you know, we had Mary on the podcast, like, I'm usually a fan of Mary. She just was so bothered by her crying because she saw her name card at Bree's party. Like, what is going on? Like, she has this deep hatred.

• 46:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  For Chelsea.

• 46:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, the name card thing, I forgot about that. It's like you're on an ensemble cast show. It's, you should assume that those people are gonna be at every filming.

• 46:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, she was told that she wasn't gonna be there and then she saw her name at the table and she broke down. She's crying in the corner. I was like, Mary, what is actually going on here?

• 46:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I think she's trauma victim. I mean, if you saw somebody hop over your fence, rob you, take everything you own.

• 46:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which was, I mean, I can't imagine what, I mean, that was like the worst thing.

• 46:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. So I think that's probably where it comes from is like trauma brain where you're just like, I, I can't deal with anything else.

• 46:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're connecting this person to what you're already going through.

• 46:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. But anyway, it was a great season. I really liked the themes this season. I could unpack the Krishel Emma, like, boy gets in the middle of your relationship, your friendship thing. Like, I could do it for hours. I think it's so painful. It's horrible to watch your friend that you know deserves so much more, that you love, do this and be like, I lose, I'm gonna lose this friendship because of this terrible person who you are choosing. I am the one that gets, that loses? That's crazy.

• 46:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  It is, he is so embarrassing. Like, we talk about the whole Vogue article, is it embarrassing to have a boyfriend? Which we're gonna do a whole episode coming up. It is embarrassing to have that boyfriend. You know what I thought was so funny? When they would ask Emma, a lot of times, what do you see in him? And she would be like, she said, like, he gets, he's something about family. And they're like, but your family doesn't like him.

• 47:16Rayna Greenberg?

  That was so funny.

• 47:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then she goes, no, but my, my niece and nephew do. Yeah, cuz he's a child. He gets along with the kids.

• 47:22Rayna Greenberg?

  He's like, fruit's dumb, right, guys? And they're like, he's awesome.

• 47:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was like, what about this guacamole? Doesn't it look like baby poop? And they're like, ha, ha, ha, ha. Like, I died when she was like, he's just really family oriented. And they were like, but your family hates him. And she's like, was like, uh, he gets along with the kids. I lost it.

• 47:38Rayna Greenberg?

  He was like, I don't know where Boston is. And they were like, us either. We can't read. Krishal was like, but your dad hates him. And she's like, no, no, no, but people under 10 like him.

• 47:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I just, I like straight up asking someone what they see in someone.

• 47:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I would need, if you and I were on, teetering on the end of our friendship because of a man, I would really need you to sell me on that man.

• 48:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so that is Selling Sunset. Another show we just wanted to discuss, which I'll let Ryan take it away, is Kim Kardashian's new show. Not just Kim Kardashian, Sarah Paulson, Glenn Close, Neese Nash, Tiana Taylor, all the people, but All's Fair on Hulu.

• 48:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it's getting widely made fun of and panned, and people are saying it's like campy and stupid, and it's like not even so bad that it's good. I'm gonna stick up for a little bit.

• 48:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 48:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I don't think it's supposed to be good. It's so high gloss. I mean, you watch the opening couple scenes, and even the way that it's edited and shot, you're like, this is not supposed to be like a courtroom drama. I mean, it looks like 19 Paris filters were put on top of every single scene. More than Selling Sunset.

• 48:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Speaking of filtered shows.

• 48:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it's just cheesy and campy, and like, I laughed out loud. Like, Sarah Paulson is this like, she's the villain, and she's like mad at all them. She starts a competing law firm. She's like, fuck you fucking bitches, fuck you. She sends like an edible arrangement that she said that she dipped in like feces. And it just made me laugh. And it's not like, um, and just like that, where you're like, it's so bad, but it's actually trying to be really good.

• 49:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I mean, yeah, they're saying it's Ryan Murphy, and people are saying it's camp, but some people are also saying like, it's so bad, it doesn't even deserve the label of camp. But I appreciate that sentiment. I haven't watched it yet, but I guess my, I guess my feeling is like, the trailers made it look more serious.

• 49:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it did.

• 49:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, are you watching it laughing? Like, you're supposed to laugh?

• 49:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know if you're supposed to laugh.

• 49:44Rayna Greenberg?

  There were two times this morning I laughed out loud.

• 49:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ryan's door in the mornings.

• 49:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I was doing my makeup watching it. I laughed out loud. I mean, Kim Kardashian is like married to this unknown actor. He buys her like this diamond ring, and he's like, come to daddy. And then Kim Kardashian climbs on top of this guy, straddles him, like making out with this random guy. Like, that guy hit the jackpot. I don't know, I just, I like the ensemble cast. I, it's not gonna change your life. It's not, uh, it's not a law drama that's gonna change your life, it's not like Suits.

• 50:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I think that's what I wanted. So I think, like, I, at least I would know going in, like, the trailers made it seem like Suits.

• 50:22Rayna Greenberg?

  The trailers did make it seem like it was gonna be this like badass.

• 50:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, bad bitches, like, you know, just so, I don't know.

• 50:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so while you're deciding if you wanna watch All's Fair, I'm just gonna read you a couple of the reviews. They really made me laugh out loud. Okay, The Guardian says, Fascinatingly, incomprehensibly, existentially terrible. The Independent called it possibly the worst TV show to ever exist. And Variety said the show is clumsy and condescending and criticized its tone heavily. I mean, people hated this show.

• 50:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  You jogged my memory that I saw a headline that said all's fair debuts with 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.

• 50:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think it's ever been done before.

• 51:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's really, it's really set a record.

• 51:03Rayna Greenberg?

  One of its kind.

• 51:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll see. I will check it out, but I just thought it was interesting that the same time Kim Kardashian's lawyer show premiered, she failed the bar.

• 51:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think she like did that the same week on purpose?

• 51:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's like, honestly, when the show premieres and I pass the bar, this is going to be great promo. And it was like, oh, honey.

• 51:24Rayna Greenberg?

  She's like, I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on TV.

• 51:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, it's just, that's a funny irony there and good for her for keeping trying. She's going to take it again, right?

• 51:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Why is she still trying?

• 51:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a hard test for Kim.

• 51:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I couldn't pass lawyer stuff. That's hard, but like, why is she still doing this?

• 51:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause it's like you work so hard towards it. You, you don't, you don't want to give up at the end.

• 51:47Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, she's not going to be a lawyer. So like, can't you just be like, I did it.

• 51:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. She's like, you guys, I'm playing a lawyer. Clearly I'm a lawyer.

• 51:57Rayna Greenberg?

  What is, somebody says, I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV. There's like a funny, famous line about it. Maybe it's George Clinton. I don't know.

• 52:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  But what did she say? She, Chat GPT like fucked her over. She was trying to use Chat GPT and they were giving her wrong answers or?

• 52:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Like RFK?

• 52:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. They're like, Kim, this is getting ridiculous.

• 52:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Kim, just stop. Anyways, I mean, listen, the show's not going to change your life, but it's like beautiful and it's this ensemble cast of women. And like, I, I'll lay in bed at night and watch something stupid.

• 52:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I, I just, I have a line and, and just like that hit that line for me and I couldn't hate watch it anymore. So I'll see. I may be okay with this or not.

• 52:32Rayna Greenberg?

  And just like that thought, it really like did that shit. They were really trying to do it.

• 52:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  They thought they ate with that. Well, and speaking of the Kardashian. Clan Kris Jenner had her 70th birthday party and all these stars were there and whatever. We don't need to get into it. You guys, if you care, you've seen the photos and all the stars that were there and this and that. But the thing that we found the most interesting was that Kim and Kris quietly deleted photos of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry from the birthday party from carousels. Like pulled the photos out from, which I don't know if you guys didn't know, you can take photos out of carousels, even the lead one.

• 53:06Rayna Greenberg?

  You told me that, yeah.

• 53:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Whatever you guys want to do, uh, which is great for breakups and whatnot. So they took out the photos of these two and I am so fascinated and curious.

• 53:16Rayna Greenberg?

  So I haven't even really seen people like speculate why. I mean, I guess my only thing would be that the Kardashians are tied to Donald Trump and this party was held at Jeff Bezos's house, who is also tied to Donald Trump. And I don't know if this was like, I would, I don't know. I don't know if it's like some kind of politically motivated thing. I don't know if Meghan Markle has like come out against like, I really, I was digging deep for this one. I really don't know. I have no idea.

• 53:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  I guess the main question is what side does it come from was literally, this will keep me up at night. I got, I need answers because was it like that Meghan and Harry weren't really supposed to be there or it's a bad look that they're there and they said, can you delete? Or Kris and Kim sat down and were like, ugh, they gave us the ick. They like delete the photos.

• 54:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's the first, I mean, I would think that Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's the camp reached out to them and they were like, we don't want you, we want to be associated with you guys.

• 54:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  So the two photos are interesting because one is like more of a candid and the other one is posed. So they posed for photos. Like if you were posing for a photo, you know, that photo might end up somewhere. So Page Six reached out to reps, but they haven't heard back. I just, we will stay on this, you guys. This is important to us. Yeah, they posed for photos. I'm seeing other photos too. They, they were not trying to hide that they were there.

• 54:39Rayna Greenberg?

  No, this is pretty crazy.

• 54:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I mean, just, I can't get over this visual of Kris Jenner and Kim Kardashian getting on Instagram and like deleting, which maybe their people did it for them, but being like, take the photo out of the carousel of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Like I will not get over this. This is so important to me. It's like niche drama.

• 55:00Rayna Greenberg?

  It feels so like beneath them, like celebrities are like just like us. Like Meghan's like, you take that photo down out of your carousel right now. I mean, one of them, you don't even know that's Meghan Markle, really. I mean, it's just her back, right? Oh, you do. It's her, it's the side of her face.

• 55:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, you guys, let us know your theories in the comments and we will leave you with some headlines.

• 55:21Rayna Greenberg?

  We have a, much like the Love Shack fancy Stanley water bottle. We have a new water bottle. We have a new cup. We have a new cup causing headlines.

• 55:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Labubu of cups.

• 55:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Starbucks apologizes after Bearista cup sparks fights and long lines and a $500 resale listing. So Starbucks came out with this limited edition cup. It could not be more adorable. It has a bear. It has a green hat.

• 55:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  You think it's adorable?

• 55:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's so cute. I'm obsessed.

• 55:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, let me ask you this. Do I think Labubu is adorable? If you got it as a gift, would you keep it?

• 55:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I would be walking around my house every morning drinking out of it. It would be delightful.

• 55:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't believe, you and I are so different because we disagreed on Labubus too. If someone gifted me this, it would be in the Goodwill pile immediately.

• 56:04Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 56:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's cute and you know, I love bears. I don't want to drink out of that.

• 56:09Rayna Greenberg?

  So every morning I pour my coffee into like a nice little cup too. And I have like a special straw for my coffee. Like it just, it brightens my day.

• 56:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 56:16Rayna Greenberg?

  To drink my iced coffee out of a little clear bear with a little green cap. It would delight me endlessly.

• 56:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, you're in the camp of the people that were literally in these lines. 2:00 AM, 4:00 AM, waiting, like Black Friday, old school style, waiting for these fights. I saw one being thrown and it shattered, which man down. And then there's speculation that Starbucks employees were hoarding them.

• 56:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Hoarding them to sell them on eBay for $500.

• 56:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Insider trading. And can I tell you my favorite part? Our Walmart and Aldi's responses. So I didn't think you'd seen this. I wanted to show you on air. So Walmart went in immediately. Their caption is Walmart version.

• 57:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, I, okay, I'm so mad you showed me this because I was thinking in bed this morning, I swear to God, Walmart and I are the same. It's a photo of the honey bear.

• 57:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it looks like a honey bear.

• 57:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I was laying in bed this morning thinking people could just go to the grocery store and buy honey bears and empty them out and put the coffee in there. The, the honey that like from the,

• 57:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, yeah, yeah, we all have one in our cupboard.

• 57:19Rayna Greenberg?

  We all have the same thought, okay.

• 57:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so I guess Walmart was like, we have that too. And then Aldi sent, like, posts this.

• 57:28Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not a $30 bear, well, we got this little diva.

• 57:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Aldi posts this little gingerbread. I can't, I don't know if this is real or not, or if they're just trolling, but I will say, they write like, we have this gingerbread that you can stick a straw in. It looks like an ornament. And then their caption, that Seattle-based coffee chain could never.

• 57:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Troll. I like, shots fired. I love all these big chains and their social media teams. I love them. Aldi is always trolling people.

• 57:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love it.

• 57:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Big time trolls.

• 57:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, big like Wendy's energy. So the, I guess Starbucks is like, we're gonna release more holiday stuff, like the app, there is more stuff coming. But people went crazy for this barista and it's funny that we disagree yet again. Like on the little boo boo, says, now I want to get you one and I'm not gonna, $500 is a lot of money for a cup.

• 58:16Rayna Greenberg?

  It would be worth it for the clip.

• 58:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Guys, Venmo me and I'll make it happen.

• 58:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, I think, okay, if you Venmo, you could use our company money and I'll split it with you.

• 58:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can afford it, but that's the last thing I want to spend my money on, but I feel like I would do it for the bit.

• 58:31Rayna Greenberg?

  That'd be the best five hundred dollars you ever spent.

• 58:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  If I buy you this fucking thing for $500 and I come over and it's in the Goodwill pile, the friendship is over.

• 58:40Rayna Greenberg?

  I would wash it every day, just to drink out of it every single morning. That's how much I love it.

• 58:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and lastly, Zendaya is, the rumors are that she is refusing to do press with Sydney Sweeney for Euphoria for the new season, and it's politically motivated.

• 58:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I know that it's a job and you're paid to do a job and like you're on set and you're an actor and you're supposed to promote the new season of whatever you're on, but I don't hate this level of petty.

• 59:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I think she's like, I feel so strongly about the political climate and I want to make a statement and I don't want to buddy up with her because I don't agree with her. And she has given me the ick like she has with a lot of people and a lot of people know, a lot of people are into Sydney Sweeney. I mean, she's like on, she's, you know, her name is in everyone's mouth. So I guess, again, this is still just rumored. We couldn't find like a really legitimate publication, but they're just saying Zendaya is like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna do it. I don't want to be aligned with her.

• 59:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't, I mean, this is the same thing as people saying, I don't want to go home for the holidays because I don't want to get stuck in these conversations with people about politics. And I, I know that it's different because they're being paid to be there.

• 59:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 59:43Rayna Greenberg?

  But I don't know. I would just be like, I have free will. This is different than how it felt years ago in politics. I could stand next to a person that voted, honestly, I, I don't even think the last time Donald Trump was president that it felt like this. Now I understand people being like, you're on one side or the other.

• 59:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Cause they used to be buddies. Like they used to be on the red carpet together and they were like friends. Um, I mean, Sydney Sweeney is just, she's such a hot topic right now. That GQ interview was just like, oof, it wasn't for me. I'm, I'm, I'm just not a fan of her. And it's funny that people are like, women are jealous of her because she's hot. And I'm not a fan of her and I also don't think she's hot. So the narrative, it bothers me. And it just feels like dumb men that say that shit. Like, just so we're here, like, women don't hate Sydney Sweeney because we're jealous that she's hot.

• 1:00:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I'm a fan of, pretty much everybody that I'm a fan of is very hot.

• 1:00:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like literally the Hailey Bieber, the Hailey Bieber interview was also, also aired from the same issue. And I just thought it was like cute and sweet.

• 1:00:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  But anyway, Sydney Sweeney's new movie has one of the worst openings in box office history. Because guess what?

• 1:00:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause she's hot.

• 1:00:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  People want to see her being hot. She has a male fan base that want to see her being hot. And they, she wasn't hot in this movie. And she was playing this like iconic woman. And I appreciate the story, but like.

• 1:01:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Wrong person to ugly up. That's, you're right. You're just like, this is cra- I mean, I understand that Charlie Stareng got super ugly for Monster. Like, some people can do it, and I know they're trying to win an Oscar, but Sydney Sweeney has built a reputation on those titties, and she can't-

• 1:01:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and you know, I don't want to offend the boxer, Christy Martin, but yeah, Sydney Sweeney didn't look the way that the men that support her wanted her to look-

• 1:01:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  -in that movie.

• 1:01:30Rayna Greenberg?

  It's honestly really surprising, because movies about boxing, I mean, that's what wins everybody the Oscar.

• 1:01:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, yeah, like, um, obviously, there's more male boxing movies, but, um, Hilary Snack and the, what was it? I want to say Baby Girl.

• 1:01:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I know, did you, uh, Cry Baby? That was your name.

• 1:01:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jail. That was my name in jail.

• 1:01:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, that was like one of my favorite movies. My friends had to like drag me out of the theater. I was in tears. It was like so good.

• 1:01:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Little Baby? No, I forget what it was called.

• 1:02:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Million Dollar Baby. We were so close.

• 1:02:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Cry Baby.

• 1:02:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, speaking of million dollars, um, Christie, which is the movie Sydney Sweeney plays, real-life boxer Christy Martin, grossed just over 1.3 million dollars domestically in its opening weekend, an average of $646 per theater.

• 1:02:17Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 1:02:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I think you're right, though. I think people, I think she has staked her reputation on looking a certain way, and I think people don't want to see her look a different way. That's not what her fanbase wants.

• 1:02:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I was, KFC did a whole thing, um, from, KFC from Barstool, we, we usually like his takes, we disagree sometimes, and he just posted this thing, like, is her, what's going on with her reputation? Like, a lot of people didn't like the GQ thing, and it just, it's just like, I don't know, it's, it's, it's interesting to watch, and just, it's an interesting study in celebrity, and I am certainly not a woman that's like, I'm tearing her down, I'm, I'm not a fan, and I, I'm not a fan of the, the jeans ad, and the response to it, and the politics, and all the things, and that's just what it is.

• 1:02:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, we could talk about her every week. There's like four different news stories about her every single week.

• 1:03:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Her tits on the red carpet, I've never seen someone go brawlish with titties like that.

• 1:03:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I never, I never had the confidence back when I looked like that.

• 1:03:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Those are, those big naturals.

• 1:03:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was like, oh, go off, I guess.

• 1:03:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll be honest, it made me miss mine. It made me feel like I made a mistake.

• 1:03:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  You don't see, you don't see areola on the red carpet on breasts that big. I've never seen it done.

• 1:03:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Never, never. And it really, it made me wish I could do it.

• 1:03:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  So she's really a trailblazer in the areola world. All right, guys, well, that is your snack. You can find us at girlsgottaeat.com, Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, Reina is reina.greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube, share this episode with a friend, leave a comment, let us know what you thought, and we will see you Monday.

• 1:03:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a great weekend, guys.

• 1:03:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.