Maxwell’s Epstein Offer, Mamdani Effect Is REAL & Trump's Shooting Was An INSIDE JOB? | PBD Podcast | Ep. 616

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Ghislaine Maxwell’s shocking offer to testify about Epstein’s client list, the impact of Zohran Mamdani’s rise and the 'Mamdani Effect,' and shocking new evidence regarding the July 13th shooting of President Donald Trump in Butler, PA. ------ 🧢 VT SUMMER HATS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4lwj8Do 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:17Speaker 01

  You are a one on one?

• 0:18Speaker 00

  My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at that as well. Gang, great to be with you and, uh, episode 616. Lot going on, lots of stories. Over the weekend, it was non-stop. The Epstein thing didn't stop. It was back to back to back. More people trying to apologize and saying, you know, what's the big deal type of thing they're trying to do to people? And then eventually, Tom, we can hear that. Eventually Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice, Jelaine Maxwell, is now ready to reveal the truth of the pedophile client list, saying insider so. Why are Republicans blocking? Or there was a vote this morning. Was it this morning or yesterday? When was the vote? I think it was yesterday. Late last night. Late last night, they voted and Republicans voted against the Epstein files to be released,

• 1:06Patrick Bet-David?

  which is very, very weird because this is what they campaigned on and Democrats are now voting for this to be released. A lot of people are, uh, extremely confused to say the least, but I have an angle. I have some thoughts on this and I'm sure the crew does as well. Uh, Ocasio-Cortez slammed over def- uh, defamatory Trump Jeffrey Epstein post. Sue AOC into bankruptcy. This is a New York Post story. Trump, uh, threatens 100% tariffs on Russia. This whole tariff thing is going back and forth. One of the ones that's very interesting is the president is pissed. Trump's Brazil tariff threat is a part of a bigger geopolitical dispute because of what they're doing to Jair Bolsonaro. I actually like that angle. What's gonna, we'll talk about that.

• 1:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Behind Trump's decision to tax Brazil to save Bolsonaro, uh, for you coffee lovers, uh, those of you that drink coffee. Coffee prices climbed after Donald Trump threatens Brazil with 50% massive crisis. I have a lot of friends who love Brazilian coffee that were calling, uh, BetterHelp. Uh, their therapist yesterday and having conversations. Switching over to tea. Yeah. So, Secret Service officials were aware of classified threat 10 days before Butler assassination attempt. Failed to tell agents guarding Trump and Vinnie as usual, good point saying it's interesting out of all the speeches Trump gave, the only one CNN showed up to was the one in Butler somehow, some way. Weird. Yeah, very. MAGA isn't buying Pam Bondi's explanation on Epstein's video footage. FBI's Dan Bongino clashes with AG Bondi over handling of Epstein files.

• 2:35Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a bunch of stories talking about the fact that people are stepping down and even one where Cash Patel came out and tweeted about the fact that he's all these conspiracy theories, nobody's stepping down, I'm gonna be here to serve him until he asked me to step away. Tucker Carlson at Turning Point USA rips Pam Bondi for wrecking Trump's devotee career. He had a lot of other things to say, that's just one of them. Palm Beach is trying to capitalize on this Mam Donnie guy, telling people that they're putting a plan together to attract out of those 123 billionaires that live in New York that are sick of the stuff that's going on in New York. Palm Beach is trying to say, we'll take care of you here, come over here, come home, come home, baby. Come home to Papa. Come on, Papi. We miss you. We miss you, we miss you.

• 3:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, if you know that, you're above 40 years old. Come to Florida, Pablo, Pablo, honey. JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon, skulls Democrat idiots obsessed with diversity, equity and inclusion. Real estate inquiries by wealthy New Yorkers into Florida properties jumped 50% after Mam Donnie's primary win. Biden says he's made the clemency decisions that were recorded with Autopen. There's a story by Breitbart that talks about that even, you know, Biden apparently says that he never approved the Autopen signature for Fauci. Fauci's not happy about this, he's about to go vaccinate Biden and it's the last vaccination. It's not the good kind of vaccination. This is a joke, folks, I just want you to know, but we will read the story to you about what Biden says.

• 4:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Obama making first fundraising appearance since Democrats 2024 losses. And he went to Jersey, not because he's a Nets fan, he went there because they desperately need him. Jersey needs him. ICE, people not happy. They're saying, "We don't like these videos, Mr. President." "Even though you campaign on immigration, even though you campaign on cleaning up the streets, "we don't like seeing this separation of, you know, family and all this other stuff." "Not good." And Ana Navarro said, "White people don't know what it is to be her because she's wiser than them." She said this to one of the guys on the panel that says, "You're a white, uh, "you're a white male. You don't know." Imagine flipping on the other side. You're a Hispanic female.

• 4:46Adam Sosnick?

  You could be racist if it's towards white people.

• 4:47Patrick Bet-David?

  But if you can't, you have to say it.

• 4:49Adam Sosnick?

  100%. I've actually heard that.

• 4:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Desperate parents are spending thousands and flocking to southern state "for the sake of their children," and Tom is not happy about the story because Tom wasn't able to save that money on this story here, but he'll give us insight. Jamie Dimon has a blunt message for Europe. "You are losing." It would have been better if it would have said, "You're losers." But no, he said, "You're losing." Is he in a thing called "You're losers"? He said, "You're losing." We're gonna talk about that story. CVS, Walgreens, Macy's, and dozens more bracing for 15,000 store closure "this year amid brutal retail calls." Okay, 15,000 stores closing. We'll talk about that. Unsold homes surged nationwide as housing market stalls.

• 5:34Patrick Bet-David?

  John Jones, this is maybe at the end, if we have some time, we'll go into the story. John Jones is tickled over possible White House bout. Imagine fighting at the White House. UFC, Trump is saying he's gonna do a UFC thing there, and I think it's gonna happen next year, 2026. And some are saying Conor McGregor may come back to fight Mike Chandler. It's finally gonna happen, and John Jones may come back.

• 5:55Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 5:55Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna be a spectacle. Luka Doncic, not LeBron James, gives heads up about Lakers sale. So LeBron is pissed off. He's trying to be traded. At this point, I'm sure there's maybe one or two teams that would, am I picking them up? Minnesota transgender softball pitcher left out of Allstate selections, and Adam's upset about it. So he has a lot to share on this one. He was not happy about it, and I said, "Adam, stop. Go to sleep. You can talk about it tomorrow on a podcast." So we're gonna let him talk about it. Supreme Court allows Trump to proceed with mass firings at education departments.

• 6:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And then maybe we'll get into the Megyn Kelly Ben Shapiro conversation. Uh, Newsom was on Sean Ryan's podcast, actually very interesting clips on what he talked about. His fingers and hands were everywhere. Every time I watch Newsom now, I think about you. That's all I think about. And by the way, folks, Elmo was at the office yesterday and he was, listen, he sat down with our HR manager, Vincent O'Shaughnessy, and it was a very intense conversation. It was very intense. Yeah, but it is what it is. Anyways, before we get into it, but yeah, right there. Telling Elmo, I'm like, what is the ma- what is all these tweets about? And Senna, Senna was like, Dad, what's AIPAC? I mean, my daughter shouldn't be asking me about AIPAC, you know, and I have to sit there and explain what all this stuff is and who funds Adam's salary. I mean, we don't want to go through these types of situations.

• 7:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Senna, you'll be receiving a letter in the mail pretty soon for a donation. Yes. To Uncle Adam over here. Shoot, maybe like a recruiter. They start early, Doug. They're like, we gonna get third graders converted. What's the favorite nation? A donation. Uh, so anyways, hey, uh, so the, the future looks bright hats that are the ones that never stay on the shelves. And you guys ask for more of this style is the future looks bright where the phrase is on the flipping hat. This is now, th- th- these hats, when you see these letters coming out, they don't stay a long time. And these new ones that we have, the black is a black, is a navy blue. That's navy blue.

• 7:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And white typography, it is absolutely sick. They're not numbered. Well, we didn't order a big supply of them. We ordered a limited supply of them, so it's gonna be first come, first served. Gonna go out, we got the Miami color one, the future looks bright. This one's absolutely sick. When you look at this on the inside of it, Rob, if you can show what that looks like. Right there on the back end, yeah. And then we have another one that's the gray and future looks bright with the American flag. And then obviously, those of you that, the community that is just obsessed with the black on black on black. This is the black on black on black, future looks bright. A lot of black. We call this the Chicago special. No, Vinnie, give me the gray one. Yeah, the black on black on black. Alright, thanks, mine now. Yeah, the black on black on black is absolutely sick, but anyway.

• 8:42Patrick Bet-David?

  one of these so if if you're someone that hasn't yet gotten the future looks bright with the phrase on top of it go get one for yourself get it as a gift send it to someone make someone's day buy it for your sales team buy it for your office we are over 300,000 people now representing future looks bright worldwide and we're 700,000 away from crossing a million so all right having said that let's get right into it you said you want to go through Jelaine Maxwell first we're gonna get into the Jelaine Maxwell story first all right Jeffrey Epstein accomplice Jelaine Maxwell is ready to reveal truth of the pedophilia client list as insiders so why are republic

• 9:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Republicans blocking her all right so let's go to this why are Republicans blocking her Jelaine Maxwell 63 year old serving 20 years for child sex trafficking charges related to pedophilia Jeffrey Epstein web of underage girls is willing to testify before Congress with a source stating despite the rumors Jelaine was never offered any kind of plea deal she would be more than happy to sit before Congress and tell her story no one from the government has asked her to share what she knows she remains the only person to be jailed in connection to Epstein and she would welcome the chance to tell the American public the truth controversy surrounds the Department of Justice claims that there's no Epstein client list and video suggesting

• 10:04Patrick Bet-David?

  her the 2019 jail suicide with a source close to Maxwell saying congressional hearings have been held into everything from JFK assassination to 9/11 JFK files rank up with those cases Jelaine would be willing to speak before Congress and tell her story while President Trump posted on Truth Social for years it's been Epstein over and over again why are we not giving the publicity to files written by Obama cricket Hillary Comey Brennan and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration Vinnie your thoughts on the story

• 10:37Speaker 04

  I mean one week later from how crazy we're at Adam remember Adam you were saying how this is a story for crazy stupid losers no I just said losers oh losers well I mean sorry I added a little bit Clarify. Yeah. I said, people who are obsessed with this. Okay. Tend to be losers. Well, did you, did you see what happened, Adam? That, that week, for this past week, uh, Google searches for Epstein, Ghislaine, this whole situation? You know how much percentage it was up? I'm sure it was up. Twelve hundred percent. Oh. Pat, can we play this really fast? Yeah. Go ahead. Is there a ticker? This is why, because these are all the, all the losers, show all the losers, go.

• 11:16Speaker 05

  What a massive unforced error by the Trump administration. Donald Trump would love this story to go away, but in fact, interest is climbing higher and higher, to quote Jackie Wilson. Look at this, Google searches for Epstein. Do you hear it good or no?

• 11:32Speaker 05

  I'm on clips.

• 11:33Speaker 04

  I can hear you, can't hear clips? Play it again, Rob. Jay, come on in here.

• 11:35Speaker 05

  What a massive unforced error by the Trump administration. Donald Trump would love this story to go away, but in fact, interest is climbing higher and higher, to quote Jackie Wilson. Look at this, Google searches for Epstein.

• 11:50Speaker 04

  Jackie Wilson.

• 11:50Speaker 05

  Twelve hundred percent.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  Twelve hundred percent.

• 11:53Speaker 05

  This week versus last, and get this, it is currently the top, the, the top topic searched with Trump.

• 11:59Speaker 04

  Losers.

• 12:00Speaker 05

  On Google alongside his presidency. So Donald Trump normally, you know, leans in, leans in as stories in which there's controversy, like tariffs, for example. This is a story in which he's trying to get away from.

• 12:12Speaker 04

  I, just with everything that's happening, okay? Let's just, let's just call it what it is. Something is obviously off. I don't know if the president's name is involved, and again, me and Adam had a conversation, we're not, when people think of, of underage, like pedophilia, you're thinking of those guys from The Catch a Predator where it's like a forty year old guy showing up in an apartment with a bag of Burger King, and they're trying to hook up. We're not, what about, what about hanging out at a party, and there's a sixteen year old that is gorgeous, that doesn't look like she's sixteen, and you're there and you're doing whatever, and they have videos and photos. It's not necessarily that you're being with like an underage girl, but you got duped in this Mossad blackmail, whatever, honeypot,

• 12:53Speaker 04

  and now they have dirt on you because there's no, there's absolutely no way, because people like me, Adam, the losers, that are fed up with all the stuff that we were promised, all the. The war was gonna end in Ukraine on day one bullshit. We're sending more weaponry to go over there. Okay, all the accountability for the deep state. They're all chilling. They're all walking free. The Brennan and Comey thing. I don't give a shit about. And something is going on where everybody we were promised everything. Bongino, everybody came in all riding high. At the moment they came in. Everything's changed and now they're trying to tell us that we're crazy. And we're the C words. I won't even say that word. So it's pissing me off. It's pissing me off because now they're trying to tell us. You guys are move on.

• 13:36Speaker 04

  And when somebody like Ben Shapiro of all people is telling me not to look into something and then go. That's it's a it's a conspiracy. I don't I don't listen to it. Okay, it's absolutely horseshit. Something is up and Pat Gelay Maxwell, this might be a ploy. If she gets killed, guys, if she's actually gonna go in front of a camera and testify in front of Congress. And God, she suicides herself. I I want to see what the world is gonna say. I want to see what the president's gonna say and what all these people are gonna say. That it's it's we're all crazy because if she speaks and she gives names. It's over. It's over first. She's a dead woman walking.

• 14:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, before I go to Tom, Rob, you want to pull up the the voting that they did yesterday last night? The the results of it. So the Rules Committee voted 149 motion by a misgoverned to make in order amendment 50, which this was in regards to the files to be preserved and release any records related to Jeffrey Epstein. 527. They lost.

• 14:34Speaker 04

  What?

• 14:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And the people that said yes. Were all liberals except for one Republican. And the people that said nay were all Republicans. Tom, why would Republicans not want to release? All the records on Jeffrey Epstein?

• 14:50Tom Ellsworth?

  This is now really, really, really bothering me. This vote last night, I asked this question. Why wouldn't all of these people, because this is what people talked about during the election, during the campaign. And by the way, during some of their campaigns too, it's not just the president, it was other people, "Reelect me, send me back to Washington and I will make sure that JFK, MLK, Epstein, the files are released." Some of these people, I want to find some of these people that were conservatives, they campaigned on that. You know, and Ro Khanna, who's been on this podcast, puts a motion out and says, "Okay, folks, I'll tell you what, let's all vote on it." Do we put a motion in place that says, "You should preserve and release the information"?

• 15:34Tom Ellsworth?

  That's all Ro Khanna was doing there. And so, and it's just shocking, who's protecting who? Because this is like a clear-cut statement here. "Oh, if he has something, we're not going to compel him in this forum to push it out."

• 15:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 15:53Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what they're saying. And that bothers me. This really bothers me when I'm told, "Don't look at anything, nothing to see here, number one."

• 16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I have a position, I have a position that I'm wondering, Tom, if...

• 16:06Tom Ellsworth?

  But on this vote, these votes are bothersome.

• 16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I was wondering, I was wondering, like, I'm trying to think strategy. That's all I'm thinking about right now. I'm trying to think strategy right now, because it's one of two things. Either everybody there is there to protect the president, or everybody is taking this position because some sort of strategy. And I have some thoughts, but I want to go to Adam first. Let me hear your thoughts.

• 16:32Speaker 04

  Okay. In fact, I love that you, I literally just wrote, there's two things. Either Donald Trump is compromised, meaning they have something on him, number one, or number two, somebody else is saying, "Don't dare release it because we're on it."

• 16:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Or there's another or, or there's another or. So let's go through all three ors.

• 16:50Tom Ellsworth?

  They're using it?

• 16:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's go through all three ors. So number one is Donald Trump's on it. Okay. All right. So let's say that's the one, where he doesn't want to go through. That's an easy one. If it's on there, it's on. If it's not, it's not. If it's on there, prove it, but... My suspicion to think he's on there is so low because Obama would have had it. Yep. Biden would have had it. They would have done everything in their power. But what if they're on it, Pat? But what if they're on? Let me make my point and I'm gonna, I'm gonna hear everybody's thoughts. So, the second thing that to me is if Trump's on it, they would have used it, they would have destroyed, they would have smashed him. They would have never let him get into the White House. Ever. Let him get to the White House. So that's one. Two.

• 17:33Patrick Bet-David?

  The Republicans don't wanna release it because, you know, a lot of them are on there. And, uh, you know, a lot of the money people are on there, so they don't wanna release it because of whatever reason. Let's go to three. You know, politics is super nasty, right? So just think about the game of politics. Play the game. Okay. Not as an outsider, be one. We're not politicians. We're not in the game. You're, you know, you're, you're a podcaster. You're giving opinions. Yes. You're giving your thoughts. You're giving your perspective.

• 18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not in the arena. You're not playing the game in the arena, right? You're not. We're spectators. We're spectators in the game of politics. Yes. We're spectators in the game of politics. Okay.

• 18:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But not go inside, okay, and play the game of politics. When you wake up in the morning and you have ambitions of moving up in politics. Not if you wake up in the morning like, "I'm just gonna do my job and that's what I'm gonna do and, uh, what else? The reports I need to look at to respond." No. That's a person that's just been a congressman or senator. I'm talking about you are super ambitious. "Man, one day I wanna be that president, vice president, you know, House rep. I wanna be Speaker of the House." You're super ambitious, right? Nothing wrong with the way you're there. What is the first thing you look for when you wake up in the morning? Controversy on your opponent to call their asses out, okay? You're, you're looking for any fumble you look for to call them out. Any fumble to look for to call them out, right?

• 19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Doesn't matter what it is. Boom. Like Newsom's the best at it. First thing in the morning he wakes up, forget about what's going on in California. The first thing he looks at is, did Trump have a fumble? Did DeSantis have a fumble? Did Nashville, Tennessee have a fumble? Did Texas have a fumble? Let me call their asses out. Why is he doing that? He's trying to be number one. He wants to be a president, okay?

• 19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  In the last six months, President Trump hasn't had a bigger fumble than this one. What has Clinton said about it? Zero. What has Hillary Clinton said about it? Zero. What's Biden said about it? Nothing. How about Jill? How about Barack? How about Michelle? How about Schumer? Why haven't they said anything about it? This is a big... This is an easy opportunity to do one of these things. Hundred percent. You think Obama's gonna get a letter of chance like that? Go, you think Clinton's Hillary? You think Hillary's gonna let a chance go? Crickets. Can I ask, why they haven't said anything? Why haven't you said anything? Is it because you're such a statesman and you're so noble? And it's not the proper thing to do because we're not the president today? And we're not like other people that go after the prior administration?

• 20:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, Obama went after Bush. Obama went after Bush every chance he... I've inherited this, you know, I've inherited all of this. And how many times? Half of the Americans who never knew... A majority of immigrants who came to America and didn't know what the word inherited meant? They did right after Obama became president because you used the word every flipping day. I inherited this from the Bush previous administration. And how come? How come you're not going after him? Why not? Rob, can you, maybe I'm wrong, can you go on one of these chat GPT or Grok's and just kind of search it and say, what have the biggest Democratic establishment voices said about the Epstein fumble President Trump had this past week?

• 20:57Patrick Bet-David?

  What has the biggest Democratic establishment voices have

• 21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  said this week? Okay, let's just see what it says. And then we can specifically ask names. So, Rokana, but these are not the biggest ones. Go bottom. Who's... Nobody knows those guys. Nobody knows those names. No, I'm saying ask specifically. Like Bill Clinton. Like, figures like, what about Clintons? Obamas? Bidens? Schumer? Pelosi's. You know... Did Pelosi say something? Yeah, Pelosi's. Those types of names. That's the establishment, right? I think Nancy did say something. I think she said something back. Let's see here. Let's see. Um, Clinton's hasn't publicly commented on it. I've been on vacation and I didn't have good coverage.

• 21:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, but it's past like seven, visiting the White House 17 times and flying on Epstein out in the early 2000s. Epstein went to the White House 17 times? Damn. Oh, yeah. Hillary Clinton has remained largely silent on the latest development. Okay, Obama's hasn't had any public reaction to Trump's Epstein. However, Trump's strategy of blaming Obama Clinton for scandal shows how his deflecting responsibility. Biden hasn't issued anything, but Democrats in Congress, no, no, I'm not talking about Democrats. Schumer has amplified the issue, supporting demand for Epstein records and using conjunction. Okay, so that's one. Speaker Pelosi hasn't spoken about the recent fumble, but has historically let her first transverse. Okay, and this is Chad GPT. You know Chad GPT is generally going to be leaning a little bit to the left, right? Why haven't they? Why, why aren't they saying anything? Why are they quiet?

• 22:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, and, and is, so that leads me to think the, a guy sends me a message. I think Trump is playing 4D chess and all this other stuff. He's telling me this stuff. Okay, let's give that a little bit of credence. The fact that maybe they have so much intel that they're using this against them. Could it be? Could it be the fact that Obama's Clintons, all these guys are so quiet about this Epstein issue? They haven't said anything. They're just watching it from the outside. You're seeing Republicans fight each other. This is a perfect opportunity to jump in and say something. This is a very good opportunity to jump in and say something. You're not saying anything. Why aren't you saying anything?

• 23:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you've never been known for being noble. Your good friend Rahm Emanuel, who helped you with the elections when you were in Chicago and you were going to Schwartzman, hoping to get his support and Rahm Emanuel and Schwartzman had a fight in that hotel room. Uh, uh, you know, the event that took place where there was a hotel room or conference. Rahm Emanuel never let a crisis go to waste? Never? This is a crisis. You guys are letting it go to waste? Why are you letting it go to waste? I don't know. I, I, I don't know why you're letting it go to waste. I'm just curious. It's, it's, it's a value. It's a, it's a worthy question to ask.

• 23:45Speaker 04

  Very valid.

• 23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  To see what's going on there.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  And it's crazy that you brought up. It's like, think about that. Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House under, well, Clinton seventeen times. And do you guys remember, little fun fact? Uh, Mark Middleton, you remember who he was, Rob? Remember that guy? Special assistant to Bill Clinton? He's the guy that signed him on seven times. Signed him on to come see the president, come see the White House. And that's the same guy that suicided himself with a, a extension cord in a tree, hanged himself, shot himself with a shotgun pad, and they couldn't find the shotgun. Weird. Weird how that happens, guys. Isn't that weird? That's the guy, right, Rob? Mark Middleton. That's the guy, remember they shot him? And, and, and the detectives were like, yeah, this is suicide. They're like, but guess what? Can't find the gun. Weird.

• 24:32Speaker 04

  It's weird.

• 24:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 24:34Speaker 04

  That they're, they're eerily quiet.

• 24:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And where are you at with this?

• 24:39Adam Sosnick?

  So, you know, I've been watching, uh, a lot of people over the weekend sort of have very emotional responses to what's going on here. And I put these people in three categories. There's, uh...

• 24:50Speaker 04

  Stupid, stupid, and really stupid?

• 24:52Adam Sosnick?

  That's just your third category, Vinny. I'll, I'll save the best for last.

• 24:55Speaker 04

  Woo!

• 24:56Adam Sosnick?

  There's the people who want the truth and they're frustrated. And they have every right of knowing that. I totally get those people. Totally understand that. The second tier of people, I believe, are people who are eating their popcorn watching this. It's like Game of Thrones and House of Cards and Tiger King all in one for these type of people. And then there's a third type of people, like my friend Vinny, who I love very much. And Jeffrey Epstein is living rent-free in your head. And you can't shake it. And every morning you wake up, you're like, dude, we need more information on Epstein.

• 25:29Speaker 04

  Actually, I don't actually listen.

• 25:30Adam Sosnick?

  It's like you're watching the show.

• 25:31Speaker 04

  That's not what I do in the morning.

• 25:32Adam Sosnick?

  And you're speculating, oh, it's this guy. It could be him. I don't know what's going on. When the reality is, and I mean this sincerely, you don't know shit, bro.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  Oh, yes, I do.

• 25:42Adam Sosnick?

  No, you don't.

• 25:43Speaker 04

  Yes, I do.

• 25:43Adam Sosnick?

  Because...

• 25:43Speaker 04

  I'll retort when you're done.

• 25:44Adam Sosnick?

  Because if Pam Bondi is saying certain something, and Cash Patel is saying something...

• 25:49Speaker 04

  Oh, I believe them.

• 25:50Adam Sosnick?

  And Dan Bajino is saying something, and Trump is saying something...

• 25:52Speaker 04

  The government wouldn't lie at him, you're right. The government would never lie.

• 25:54Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, you don't know. So I have the humility and I have the capacity to say, you know what? Does this matter? Yeah. Can I control any of this? Zero. If Pam Bondi can't control this and Dan Bongino can't control this and Cash Patel, who basically platformed himself on this issue, can't solve this, Vinny ain't solving this, homie. Who said I'm trying to solve it, Adam? You are, because you put yourself out there and you act like you're the authority on this. You're not.

• 26:26Tom Ellsworth?

  So Adam, when you're those three groups.

• 26:28Adam Sosnick?

  My final point here is a common theme that we talk about on this show, signal versus noise. To me, this is a whole bunch of noise. You're searching for Bigfoot when I'm trying to get rich and create things in my life. Great. So good luck with your search, or I'm gonna go live in reality.

• 26:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I have a fast question.

• 26:45Adam Sosnick?

  And I'm not downplaying the significance of this. I'm saying for most people who are fat, lazy, broke, the people I'm talking about, they're obsessed with stuff like this when they have so many personal issues in their life they can't fix, so they basically deflect and say, yeah, but Epstein. Yeah, but the Tiger King. Yeah, did you see what happened on Game of Thrones? No, I didn't, because I'm actually doing bigger things in my life. But do you think people?

• 27:10Tom Ellsworth?

  So you analyze it and you say there's three groups. Okay, of the three groups, you say, Adam, what is the percent size of each one? Is it third, a third, a third, as you see it, just as you estimate it? Because you said you broke it into three groups, you observed.

• 27:27Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe, maybe not, I don't know, I haven't done the exact math.

• 27:29Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but that's a very valid question. What he's asking you is, what do you think majority of people in America fall? These are types of questions we ask on a podcast. You don't have to get 100% right, but what is your assumption of where people fall?

• 27:41Adam Sosnick?

  I would say there's a vast percentage of people genuinely care about this. Like, I care about this. Like, this isn't, so let's be real clear here. This isn't a top three issue for me. It may be a top 10 issue. I think, I don't think it's a top three for most Americans. I think most Americans wake up, they want to work, they have to deal with rent or their mortgage, their cost of living, they want to deal with their kids, they want to take their kids to school. It's summer right now, they're worried about immigration, the border. I don't think the average person's waking up going, "Did we find out about Epstein?"

• 28:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So, that was a 45 second response.

• 28:13Adam Sosnick?

  No, there was a 7 second response.

• 28:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No, there was no way it's 7 seconds.

• 28:16Adam Sosnick?

  That was.

• 28:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage falls in the category of people that care? I just say you can't answer it, we'll move on.

• 28:22Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no.

• 28:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But don't take 2 minutes.

• 28:23Adam Sosnick?

  I didn't take 2 minutes. I took 7 seconds. It just went from 45 seconds to 2 minutes.

• 28:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me just come back.

• 28:29Adam Sosnick?

  But no, but the reality is, people do care about this. Go ahead, go on a rant for 30 seconds.

• 28:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, Adam, well, you said so much and so much of it was bullshit. So I have to kind of process it in my brain. Cause you think people like me wake up every morning and... No, Adam, I wake up, I listen to 432 Hertz comm, I go to the gym, I do my thing. And I can walk, Adam, like the average American, walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. I could worry about money, I could be investing. Tom took frigging 20 minutes of his time this morning to help me with my investments, help me with my stuff, and guess what? I could still think about Epstein. And the thing is, Adam, here's the real thing. All the victims that are out there, none of them are in your family. Your nieces, your nephew, none of them were raped, none of them were trafficked, Adam. So you, I could see where you wouldn't give a shit.

• 29:19Adam Sosnick?

  Were they in your family?

• 29:20Speaker 04

  No, hold on.

• 29:21Adam Sosnick?

  Were they in your family?

• 29:21Speaker 04

  You don't care about the kids that much.

• 29:23Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 29:24Speaker 04

  No, no, no, hold on. Let me, but let me finish.

• 29:26Adam Sosnick?

  That's a bullshit argument.

• 29:27Speaker 04

  No, it's not a bullshit argument. Because, no, just like when the border, when these illegals rape, hold on, and murder. Wait a minute.

• 29:34Adam Sosnick?

  So these are the only kids in the world that are dealing with tragedy? Just these kids?

• 29:37Speaker 04

  No, no, Adam.

• 29:38Adam Sosnick?

  It's not everywhere in the world.

• 29:39Speaker 04

  Adam, hundreds of thousands of kids. No, no, Adam. Again, I can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. Cause you're like, what about all the other stuff? And guess what? Trump has closed the border, okay? Those rapes and killings, barely even happening from illegals, okay? Tariffs, everything is kicking ass. The main problem right now is you ran. They all ran on Epstein, Epstein, deep state, everybody, we're gonna get them. Now that they're here, they're kicking ass on everything else.

• 30:07Adam Sosnick?

  Is that what they ran on though?

• 30:09Speaker 04

  Hell, yeah, they did.

• 30:10Adam Sosnick?

  Was that their top priority? Cause I'm pretty damn sure it was the economy and immigration.

• 30:14Speaker 04

  And how many times?

• 30:15Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody ever said, Trump never said, elect me and I'll be the truth-tayer on Jeffrey Epstein.

• 30:21Speaker 04

  Bullshit. How many interviews? How many interviews?

• 30:23Adam Sosnick?

  You think that was his top thing?

• 30:25Speaker 04

  Let me finish.

• 30:26Adam Sosnick?

  This is my whole point.

• 30:27Speaker 04

  Interviews?

• 30:27Adam Sosnick?

  Is in your mind, this is the number one thing in the world.

• 30:29Speaker 04

  How many interviews did Donald Trump sit down and they asked JFK files? Yes, Epstein, yes.

• 30:37Adam Sosnick?

  No, he said no.

• 30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Hang on, hang on, hang on.

• 30:39Adam Sosnick?

  He said no.

• 30:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, pump the brakes. Let me bring it back, okay? When you, when you think about how many interviews he did where people asked, you're right, okay? When you're asking what, what people asked, however, if you go to, Rob, I'm gonna send this to you. This is what they call the agenda forty-seven, okay? And they call this the forty, agent forty-seven promise. And this is Trump's promise, okay? Rob, I'm gonna send it to you. If you can, just pull it up and we'll go through it one by one by one, okay? And these were things that he said he was gonna do for the election. And what things they focused on, okay? For us, we try to be as fair as possible here.

• 31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, if you can pull that up, I don't know if you have what I just sent you right there. This is the twenty, and by the way, I don't even know what all the twenty are, but let's just kinda pull it up and see what it was. The market asks, and zoom in one by one, let's read it, twenty promised to me. Seal the border and stop the Michael Cape. Number one, he's done it. Number two. Carry out largest deportation operation in American history. Hasn't been done yet, thirty thousand, uh, biggest number in half a decade. Not there yet, but they're working on it. End inflation and America affordable again. They're working on it. Make America dominant energy producer in the world by far. They're working on it. Stop outsourcing and turn the United States into many. They're working on it. Largest tax cuts for workers and no tax on tips, done.

• 32:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Defund, defend our constitution, or burrow on some religion, okay, they're working on it. Prevent World War III, restore peace in the Europe, Middle East, hasn't been done yet. Sort of important. But it's working on it, yes. But that's number eight. End the weaponization of government against the American people. They're working on it. Stop migrant criminal epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence and end up, okay, they're working on it. Rebuild our cities, including DC, making a safe, claim beautiful, working on it. Strengthen and modernize our military, making it without question the strongest, they're working on it. Keep the US dollar as the world's reserve currency, major progress. Fight for and protect social security and Medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age.

• 32:47Patrick Bet-David?

  They made a couple of changes to it, some will say 15 million this, this, that, but they're working on it. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly, by the way. That was, so this, that number 15 is directed to one person. Elon Musk. So that was a promise that he made. So Musk knew that. Number 16. Cut federal funding for any schools pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, okay, they're working on it. Keep men out of women's sports, major progress. Deport pro Hamas radicals and make our college campuses, major progress. Secure our elections, including same day voting. Working on it. Unite our country by bringing into it to new and record level. Who put this list together, Pat? This is their campaign, this is their team.

• 33:31Patrick Bet-David?

  And Vinny, number one. I'm gonna come to you, hang on, I'm gonna come to you. What I want to say here, Vinny, is two things. Because, do you think I want to know what happened with Epstein? Hundred percent I want to know what happened with Epstein. But to his credit, that was never his agenda. That was our agenda. That was the voters' agenda, that was the voters' hope. It was the voters hope to find out what happened here. The biggest screw up is the following. So when we go as a unit, what do I not like? Okay, like one of the things I don't like is when somebody makes a promise on my behalf. I never made that promise. Wait a minute, no, no, hang on. Let's call him right now. Hey Johnny, did somebody tell you that we said we're gonna do this yet?

• 34:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Did I say that or who said that? No, no, Bobby said that, but did I say that? No, so I don't want you to go on saying Pat said that. Did I ever tell you that? No, have I ever said that from station? Don't go around telling people I said this. I never made that promise. That wasn't a promise made by me. No, fair enough, Pat, my bad. No, all good, I just want to call you. If I said it, show me the text, show me the email, show me the video. I'm gonna keep my commitment, but I never said that. That wasn't our promise. We said we'll work on it, right? I'm on the side that I want to know what the hell is going on here. This is starting to become semi annoying because when you have momentum, the last thing you need is an issue that wasn't a top three issue becomes a number one issue that disrupts the momentum that you're having, that is self inflicted that you caused. Pam Bondi caused.

• 34:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Bongino, Cash, this is a collective effort that they caused, all of them, the entire team. And now unfortunately, everything rises and falls on leadership. So all of this falls on who? Trump. Trump, period. Because me hiring you indirectly is who? My choice. I made the wrong choice or the good choice, the right choice. So you chose to be a president, the shit's falling on you. The way he's approaching this game right now and the way he's trying to handle it, I think he's handling it in a way that's bringing more and more and more and more and more attention. Either move on, but right now the votes, Republicans are not saying no? What? Republicans are saying, don't release this?

• 35:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You better have a good explanation on why you're not releasing. Here's what Tucker had to say about it at Turning Point USA, Rob. If you want to play this clip of Tucker, here's Tucker. Okay, he's at Turning Point USA and go for it, Rob.

• 35:56Speaker 07

  Not acceptable. And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of intel services, probably not American. And we have every right to ask, on whose behalf was he working? How does a guy go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School in the late 70s with no college degree to having multiple airplanes, a private island, and the largest residential house in Manhattan? Where did all the money come from? And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that because no one has ever tried. And moreover, it's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government. Now, no one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been

• 36:38Speaker 07

  somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty. There is nothing wrong with saying that. There is nothing hateful about saying that. There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying, there's nothing even anti-Israel about saying that. I've spent my entire life, pretty much, in Washington, where I knew and loved a number of people, including one very close person, who worked at CIA. That has never prohibited me from saying, I think the CIA has done some horrible things. Murdered a bunch of people, participated in the murder of a sitting US president. It's got a whole trail of crimes. That doesn't make me a disloyal American. It doesn't make me anti-American in any sense. I was born here, my family's been here for hundreds of years. I love this country. That's why I live here.

• 37:21Speaker 07

  So criticizing the behavior of a government agency does not make you a hater. It makes you a free person. It makes you a citizen. You're allowed to do that because you're not a slave. You're a citizen. And you have a right to expect that your government will not act against your interests. And you have a right to demand that foreign governments not be allowed to act against your interests. That's not creepy. It shouldn't be forbidden. And yet, all of us have trained ourselves to believe that you can't say that.

• 37:55Speaker 08

  This is, this clip right here is where they talk about Bondi and Bongino and the fallout.

• 38:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, play that one here.

• 38:01Speaker 09

  Do you think Dan is upset because his integrity is being questioned now over her mistakes?

• 38:06Speaker 07

  Oh my gosh. So you're Dan, and you're a media figure, and you've got one of the biggest podcasts in the country, and you're making tons of money, and you're having a great time, which he was. You just built this brand-new studio in Florida. You work with your wife, who you really like, which she does. And you get the call saying you'd be deputy FBI director, and you're like, I love Donald Trump, I love this country, I will, you know, cut my pay by, you know, into a tenth of what it was, and I will leave my house and move to DC, which is a kind of prison sentence itself. And I will do this because I love the president, I love the country. And you're there a few months, and all of a sudden, everybody thinks you're covering up Epstein's crimes. And it kind of wrecks Dan's career like he can't go back. It's gonna be very hard at this point.

• 38:47Speaker 07

  I mean, things may change, but as of today, pretty hard for Dan to go back to his podcast audience and be like, I'm telling you the truth when they all think he's covering up for Epstein. Who did that? Pam Bondi did that. And I don't know that she did it on purpose. I'm assuming not. I don't think she's a mean person. I've never gotten that sense. But for whatever reason, she went out there and said things that were not true, that she could not back up. And then they issued this memo thinking that it would clear everything up.

• 39:14Speaker 10

  That was embarrassing.

• 39:15Speaker 07

  And I guess they're just so dumb, they didn't realize that if you tell everybody you have the tapes of these crimes and then you issue a memo saying you're not going to prosecute anybody for the crimes, what are you saying? I'm covering up for the person.

• 39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, that's the most basic question everybody is upset about.

• 39:35Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the most basic thing everybody is upset about.

• 39:37Adam Sosnick?

  That Pam announced something and then retracted her statement?

• 39:40Patrick Bet-David?

  That somebody on Trump's team made an announcement that they're gonna do that. And then they're changing the time. You look like you want to say something.

• 39:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, Pam didn't make an announcement. Pam got busted.

• 39:51Adam Sosnick?

  Caught.

• 39:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Possibly just here, you know, I don't know Pam personally, and I don't want to be harsh here, but is it possible that she got caught in a restaurant and saying some things and says, I've told you a million times, you know, just hyperbole? And she got busted saying that? It became a news item overnight and she walked not to a podium.

• 40:20Speaker 07

  White House lawn.

• 40:21Tom Ellsworth?

  But to the White House lawn and doubled down on what she said? Is it possible that she shouldn't have done it that way? Is it possible that now that kind of put a stake in the ground and all of a sudden it's like, okay, now we've got 10,000 videos. Now what? I really wonder if she was just talking over the top with somebody, got busted because it was overheard, she's in a public restaurant, not so bad idea if it was hyperbole, bad idea to be talking in a restaurant. And then you doubled down on the driveway on an impromptu media op at the White House? And here we are. I wonder.

• 41:04Speaker 07

  I, Adam, say what you're gonna say.

• 41:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I just, there's.

• 41:09Adam Sosnick?

  If we can go back to that list, and that's sort of the center of my entire thesis here, is that I understand why people are frustrated by this. I too have watched Game of Thrones. I too watched Tiger King and wanted to know what was next. But my major emphasis is, I don't know. And either do you, homie. And you can say what you think, all you want. And I respect the hell out of that. But I mean this, you don't know. And that's okay to say. The hardest thing to do as a podcaster is when Pat goes, alright buddy, what's your opinion? And I go, yeah, I don't know on this one. I just don't know.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 41:48Adam Sosnick?

  The humility it takes to say, yeah, I don't know what happened. I don't know if he was CIA.

• 41:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, no.

• 41:53Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know if he was Mossad.

• 41:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Those are two different things.

• 41:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 41:56Patrick Bet-David?

  No, hang on, hang on, hang on.

• 41:57Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you.

• 41:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, I brought this up to give you an argument.

• 42:00Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you.

• 42:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So I'm not, what I'm trying to say to you is, there is, I don't know? None of us know.

• 42:07Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you for acknowledging that.

• 42:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no.

• 42:08Adam Sosnick?

  But our friend Vinny here

• 42:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he doesn't.

• 42:10Adam Sosnick?

  Just said he did know.

• 42:11Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 42:12Adam Sosnick?

  Is my point.

• 42:12Patrick Bet-David?

  The point is, none of us know, but we all have an opinion. If this podcast wasn't without you sharing your opinion, there is no podcast.

• 42:20Adam Sosnick?

  Correct.

• 42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  People are simply watching this to say, Adam's full of shit. I agree with Adam. Vinny's angry. I don't know, Vinny's out of control. You know what, he's the only guy that's the true. You know what, Tom, I like what Tom, Pat, that's, and they get to judge. And they get to talk trash and say good things and say bad, and that's okay. We're talking opinion.

• 42:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 42:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Your opinion, which is a very valid opinion. Your opinion is, he never ran on this.

• 42:45Adam Sosnick?

  He didn't run on this.

• 42:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I know. That's what I'm saying to you. So you can give that opinion.

• 42:49Adam Sosnick?

  And that's all I'm trying to say.

• 42:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it, I'm with you.

• 42:51Adam Sosnick?

  And I'm just mirroring Trump here. This wasn't on my top three, just like, we've had conversations about Autopen. You know, I, this was not in my top 10. It's getting closer to my top three, it ain't there yet. And I acknowledge, you know what, I sort of downplayed the Autopen thing. Cause there's a lot of sort of domino effects of, yeah, I don't know what happened here. It's still not in my top three. But what's my point? Trump never ran on Epstein. He never acknowledged this as like, this is what I'm gonna get out there and do. But you, and people like you, rightfully so, have said, this is my top three, and he campaigned on this, and this is number one, and you made that up in your head. Cause I'm going down this list, and I'm also like sarcastically waiting for Epstein to be in the top 20.

• 43:35Adam Sosnick?

  It ain't even in his top 20 list. Can we acknowledge that? Can you acknowledge that?

• 43:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, I could acknowledge it.

• 43:41Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, perfect.

• 43:42Speaker 04

  But here's my thing too.

• 43:43Adam Sosnick?

  But just say this. It's in your top three. But it's not Trump's top 20.

• 43:48Speaker 04

  You know I made it go in the top three? The freaking lying. The sitting and looking in a camera and bullshitting us, thinking that we're those losers and those idiots that you're talking about. Adam, we're not stupid and we're not fucking losers, okay? When you, when a promise comes out of your mouth, I learned this big time with him. You know why? I, I would say something to one of his kids, uh, Tico, just in a small little passing. Uncle Vinny, can we watch a movie? I say, yeah, Sunday. He would hit me up and be like, Tico's going crazy, asking me where you are because you said X, Y, and Z. When you make a promise, even to a little kid, they want the fucking promise. Sorry for my cussing back. So, but let me finish.

• 44:28Adam Sosnick?

  I get it. Who made the promise though?

• 44:30Speaker 04

  Donald Trump. Donald Trump. It wasn't on his campaign promises to American people list, but Adam.

• 44:36Adam Sosnick?

  You know, like the thing that he ran on.

• 44:38Speaker 04

  He's on camera multiple times. Hold on. He's, he's not only on camera multiple times. Adam, the Cash Patel.

• 44:45Adam Sosnick?

  Show me. Show me Trump on camera, saying I'm gonna get to the bottom of Epstein.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  I'm gonna get to Epstein list.

• 44:50Adam Sosnick?

  Show me that.

• 44:52Speaker 04

  Let me finish. Let him, while he's looking that up. Not only the president, uh, his son. Where you can find that video. Find the son of, uh, the video of Don Jr. And then Cash Patel. How many, uh, on the couch podcasts? Hold on, Adam. I let you talk, let me finish. He's gonna show you the Trump, and it's multiple here and on podcasts. Um, which one's the other one? And, and on CNN, he did it on MSNBC. Um, how many times are we, are you gonna say it? And then the team around you, the Cash Patels, the Dan Bonginos. Dan Bongino's entire thing.

• 45:27Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you think knows more on this? You or Cash Patel?

• 45:30Speaker 04

  What do you mean knows more about this?

• 45:31Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you think knows more about this situation?

• 45:33Speaker 04

  That now knows exactly what happened and is covering it up. Cash Patel, for sure.

• 45:38Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, who knows more? You or Pam Bondi?

• 45:41Speaker 04

  Pam Bondi has more.

• 45:42Adam Sosnick?

  Who knows more? You or, uh, Dan Bongino?

• 45:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull up Cash's?

• 45:45Adam Sosnick?

  So, I'm gonna listen to them, not you.

• 45:47Speaker 04

  Adam, well, hold on. You know why that's a dumbass argument? What do they know more? Meaning, they saw, they saw the dirt, Adam, and now they're being quiet? I'm not stupid. Nobody in here stupid.

• 45:58Adam Sosnick?

  Here we go.

• 45:58Speaker 04

  You know.

• 45:59Patrick Bet-David?

  The conspiracy theories just aren't true. They never have been. It's an honor to serve the President Trump. Donald Trump and I'll continue to do so for as long as he calls on me.

• 46:06Adam Sosnick?

  And who tweeted this?

• 46:07Patrick Bet-David?

  But no, but wait a minute.

• 46:08Adam Sosnick?

  This is Cash Patel?

• 46:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna move on with this and I want to just finish up with this.

• 46:12Adam Sosnick?

  But Vinnie disagrees, so he must be wrong.

• 46:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Both of you have an argument. And what's weird is, both of you are right. Two people can be right on the same argument. You're right that he never ran on this and you voted for him. As a guy that's never voted for a Democratic Republican president ever in your life, this is the first time you ever voted on it, but you never voted on this. So you're being upfront with the audience. Vinnie's also right, because what Vinnie's trying to say is, why are you thinking I'm dumb? There's hundreds of clips of, many clips of Cash Patel giving a complete opposite argument of that. We're not gonna play it right now, we got a lot of other issues to get into. This was a fumble. And Ben Shapiro on Megyn Kelly, I watched this one as well where, you know, he's like, well, what's the big deal?

• 46:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who my resources are? Here's my sources, saying the fact that nothing happened. President Trump, Vice President JD Vance, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, and then Megyn Kelly's like, but you can't say that because we can question that. Both are right. Massive fumble. All I'm watching right now is to see how the hell they're gonna recover from this coming in. That's all I'm watching. What different methods they're gonna come through this part? Let's go to the next story.

• 47:25Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story, let's go to the next story.

• 47:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Next story. I want to get into a little bit of economy here. What was the one story that I wanted to get into that was, Tom? There was one economy, okay. Let's go into ICE, okay? So his number one thing he ran on was what? Immigration.

• 47:45Adam Sosnick?

  Secure the border?

• 47:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And he said, we're gonna have record-breaking deportation, et cetera, et cetera, okay? Report, ICE agents arrest 30,000 illegals in June. The most in half a decade. Okay, now, half a decade, guys, sounds like 50 years. It's only five years, right? But the way they write it is like, you know, half a decade. It just sounds better when they put it that way. Uh, some 30,000 illegal aliens were arrested by ICE in June. Um, obtained in June, 30,000 illegals were arrested. This is slight uptick from May 24,000. According to ICE data, more than 18,000 illegals were either deported by ICE agents. You know, and then boom. So now the number of all deportations from the interior of US is still unknown as DHS

• 48:26Patrick Bet-David?

  officials states 253,000 illegal aliens have been either removed or deported. Okay, 62% of Americans disapprove of Trump's immigration policies. Now, let me kind of read this because this is Forbes. Forbes is officially a, is officially a socialist network when it comes on to Forbes. This used to be a place called Capitalist Tool, but I don't know who the hell is running Forbes right now. My God, it's a disgrace what's going on with Forbes. It's China, is it not? No, it's not. This guy bought 66% of it for 800 million dollars or some number like that. What? Yeah, he bought 66, he bought 75% of Forbes for 800 million dollars. I think at the time that a 40 million dollar EBITDA. But here we go with Forbes.

• 49:08Patrick Bet-David?

  A June Gallup poll released Friday reveals that 79% of surveyed adults view immigration as a good thing for the country. A record high with only 17% seeing it as a bad thing. Reversing a 2021, 2024 trend, increasing negative review with a jump in positive perception. Primary amongst Republicans and Democrats, 91% believe that immigration is beneficial. The poll indicates growing support pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants up 78% from 70% last year, while support for stringent measures like increasing border patrol agents declined 17 points. Uh, and the border wall dropped to 45% despite Trump's administration's swift and visible response to surge in illegal border crossing during Biden's administration.

• 49:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Despite these shifts, 62% Americans disapprove of Trump's immigration policies with 45% strongly disapproving comparing to 35%.

• 50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And obviously, the numbers between Republicans and Democrats. Tom, you see this number here, okay? How it's being spun by Forbes? How do you see these numbers yourself?

• 50:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'm gonna take us back in time to the first poll ever taken. It was taken to the pilgrims. 100% of pilgrims thought immigration was good for America because they could leave King George. So it is two different questions. Do you think immigration is good for America? We all came from somewhere. My great-grandparents came from Canada. We all came from somewhere. So number one. But number two, do you think illegal immigration has been good for America? The overwa- it's running 60, 65 saying no. And you've got people saying, do you agree with the policies, the way they're being executed? People didn't like construction sites and farms

• 50:52Tom Ellsworth?

  having, being basically raided. They didn't like that. But you do know they love the fact that they went into neighborhoods and took out thugs and criminals? So you have to look at three things. Immigration has been good for America. We've had immigration policy. We all came from somewhere. Ellis Island was built to open the door for us here. France gave us a Statue of Liberty that said, "Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuge from those far shores." It's right there. So immigration, good. Illegal immigration, not good. Bad people here, you gotta pick,

• 51:35Tom Ellsworth?

  you know, it's, you got a blueberry muffin and you gotta pack, find the bad blueberries, and it's not a pretty thing. And so, people are responding right now that says, "I didn't like raids on farms. I didn't like raids on construction sites. I didn't like that." And it's a, "But," he's staying with high approval ratings on plucking out the negative people. And guess what? You can take polls and take, and put them side by side and create the narrative you want. And what they're saying is, you know, Seventy percent or sixty-two percent people think immigration is good for the country. I think that's too low. If you ask me, I think immigration has been great for the country. That's how we all got here, legally.

• 52:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you guys see, uh, um, uh, Bill Maher with this actor John Leguizamo? Did you guys see this?

• 52:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, John Leguizamo was a complete leftist.

• 52:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, Rob. I actually really like this clip. Rob, I just texted it to you.

• 52:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it? It just happened this past-

• 52:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that Benny Blanco from the Bronx?

• 52:36Tom Ellsworth?

  That's Benny Blanco from the Bronx, yes.

• 52:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so there is an exchange here, and I love the way Bill explains it. Watch this, it's a phenomenal clip.

• 52:45Tom Ellsworth?

  This guy, despite by like Leguizamo, hates Trump.

• 52:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I know he does, I know he does. This is why it makes it so great, and this is on the topic of immigration. Go ahead, Rob.

• 52:54Speaker 11

  Part of this is a backlash to how badly Biden handled the immigration situation. It can't just be like come one, come all, which it was.

• 53:03Speaker 12

  Dude, there's plenty of, there's plenty of room here, and we need-

• 53:05Speaker 11

  Room?

• 53:06Speaker 12

  Latif, there's plenty of room in America, come on. There's, there's not a lack of room in America.

• 53:10Speaker 11

  But it's never about room, it's about resources, and about, uh, like having a, countries have to have a border. You can't, it just can't be, I mean, they've done surveys and something like two hundred million people around the world when asked, would you come to America if you couldn't? Yes, I would, why wouldn't they? Lots of countries, excuse me, are shit holes.

• 53:29Speaker 12

  Right.

• 53:30Speaker 11

  And they would love to be here. You can't just let any-

• 53:33Speaker 12

  I mean, no, no, I'm not right, no, right. The places aren't shit holes, but-

• 53:35Speaker 11

  Well, they are, and that's why they want to come.

• 53:37Speaker 12

  And it's usually because of America, what America's done.

• 53:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, God.

• 53:40Speaker 12

  Especially in Latin America, has beat up every democracy that was burgeoning in Latin America. They destroyed it to keep their oil or their resources or bauxite or bananas.

• 53:49Speaker 11

  Like, if you don't really have rights, like as far as like, um, women's rights in most, the majority Muslim countries, women just don't have-

• 54:00Speaker 12

  Right, right.

• 54:00Speaker 11

  Close to the rights we have here. If you can't dress the way you want. If you are in a country- Where there's just extreme poverty, uh, which a lot of countries have. Or if there's like the kind of corruption, and we have corruption here, of course, but on a level.

• 54:16Speaker 12

  Well, we have extra new corruption with the meme coin.

• 54:19Speaker 11

  But it is on a level in some countries that's way, way more.

• 54:23Speaker 12

  Well, we're catching up, we're catching up.

• 54:24Speaker 11

  We're catching up, but we still.

• 54:26Speaker 12

  No, it's still.

• 54:26Speaker 11

  But there's a reason why people want to come here, because it's still better.

• 54:29Speaker 12

  But I gotta tell you, I mean immigrants.

• 54:30Speaker 11

  If you live in a country where you can take a chicken on a bus, that was always my standard. Okay, I think I have the right to call that a shithole country. And I see why you want to come here. It's not your fault you live in a shithole, it doesn't mean you're a shithole person. You're the misfortune of being born there, and I get it why you would want to move here.

• 54:48Speaker 12

  Right, but the thing is that the immigrants that are coming here are building the country. They're the essential workers.

• 54:55Speaker 11

  They are.

• 54:56Speaker 12

  They're the first responders, they're doing all your construction, painting, plumbing.

• 55:00Speaker 11

  Yes.

• 55:00Speaker 12

  Uh, raising all your food, cooking all your food, serving all your food.

• 55:05Speaker 11

  Kids, taking care of your kids.

• 55:06Speaker 12

  Taking care of your kids, we do all the work that nobody wants to do and keeps the country going. I mean immigrants are the life source of this country.

• 55:16Speaker 11

  Yes, they are, absolutely, because again, we're both products of them.

• 55:19Speaker 12

  Yes, yes, we are both.

• 55:20Speaker 11

  And we need, but what most Americans, I think sensible, middle of the road people would say is, yes, of course, we are an immigrant welcoming country, but there has to be some order to it.

• 55:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 55:31Speaker 11

  It just can't be come one, come all.

• 55:34Patrick Bet-David?

  He said something so interesting, he says, there's plenty of room, come on, man, there's plenty of room. Let me ask you a question, how big is John's house? John Leguizamo? How big is this house? I guarantee you has. Can you type in, how big is John Leguizamo's house? Eight bedrooms, probably, you think? How big is this house? Okay, I want to know how many square feet his house is. Okay, is there documentation how, he lives in a 3,136 square foot house, okay? That he bought for $6 million, and it's worth $10 million today, was a historic 1899 built home, right? And go a little bit lower, Rob? Manhattan, upstate. And he's got another place that's 26 underscore feet, four bedroom, three bath, on roughly 7.6 acres.

• 56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he's got a Venice house and a couple other things. I'm not giving his address out, I'm just showing what kind of house, this is public information.

• 56:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 56:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, listen, John, you have enough room, bro.

• 56:27Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 56:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You have a total of 10,000 square feet of, of places for people to live. You should allow 50 people to live in your place. Now, when I was in the army, I mean, look, my barracks, they were maybe 300 square feet. Honestly, it was so tiny, it was not even funny. So if we can fit, you know, one person per 300, I would say you can fit two people per 300 square feet. He should be okay with 20 people moving into his house. There's plenty of room there.

• 56:52Speaker 04

  John, you're rich. You need to do your part. The wealthy need to do their part, John.

• 56:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I think if he allows for 20 homeless people or illegal immigrants to live with him, maybe then let's have the conversation. John, lead from the front. Come on, Benny Blanco from the Bronx.

• 57:06Speaker 04

  And as he just said, maybe they could do some drywall and watch his kids. He said it, not us.

• 57:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, it's a very good idea, but I say we start off with Benny.

• 57:14Speaker 04

  He's got a pool. Need a pool, man.

• 57:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's start off with Benny. Okay, let's start off with him and open up the house. Be generous.

• 57:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:22Patrick Bet-David?

  John, be generous, bro. It's okay.

• 57:24Adam Sosnick?

  But of course, he won't. He won't let anybody stay in his house.

• 57:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe he does. Don't doubt him. Don't doubt him. Maybe he is gracious and he's welcoming illegal immigrants into his house. I say we allow some of the, you know, some of the illegals that are coming from, let's go to the border, let's do case study.

• 57:40Speaker 04

  You want to dox him real quick?

• 57:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Take John to the border and say, John, we pick 19 people to move into your place.

• 57:46Speaker 04

  Especially the houses that you're not there.

• 57:48Patrick Bet-David?

  We diversify because Muslims are safe. Like, here's, here's three Pakistanis. Pick them up.

• 57:53Speaker 04

  Pick them up.

• 57:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's give you two Salvadorians. Let's make them.

• 57:56Speaker 04

  Because he's Colombian. Grab a Colombian.

• 57:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe a Guatemalan, maybe a couple Chinese, you know, like they're coming through.

• 58:02Speaker 04

  Nationals to do the computers.

• 58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let's just mix them up. What's wrong with that?

• 58:05Speaker 04

  And you got four houses. So if they want to cook a goat in the kitchen, you don't like the smell, that's okay.

• 58:10Patrick Bet-David?

  He likes chickens on boxes.

• 58:11Speaker 04

  You could be in the, you could be in the. You make a great point.

• 58:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't know he was this generous, though.

• 58:17Speaker 04

  And by the way, so he's from Bogota, Colombia. By the way, so he's, by the way, there's, it's impossible unless something, he can't be physically at all four of those locations.

• 58:25Adam Sosnick?

  You think? You don't think?

• 58:26Speaker 04

  So putting them in that four bedroom, oh my God. And I'm just curious.

• 58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  There is plenty of room.

• 58:31Speaker 04

  Do you think he's ever donated to anything to, I've never seen a cause for Colombia, or have you, are you giving money to Colombia? Are you helping people in Colombia?

• 58:39Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a generous guy.

• 58:39Speaker 04

  Why don't you go and give them money?

• 58:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, I'm telling you guys, it's wrong to piss me off.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, I get it.

• 58:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop questioning his generosity.

• 58:45Speaker 04

  You're right.

• 58:45Patrick Bet-David?

  The fact that he won't agree to do this, you know he's going to agree to do this. I would be so shocked. If a sensible, gentle, sensitive, kind giving, gracious, extremely, you know, patriotic, yet at the same time, open borders, would be willing to allow 19 people to live in his house.

• 59:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 59:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He gives me that vibe.

• 59:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I think so too.

• 59:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And you guys are being nonsense critics to doubt the fact that he would ever allow something like this to happen. Shame on you guys.

• 59:15Tom Ellsworth?

  It is just inconceivable that he's a limousine liberal that would not do any of it.

• 59:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch your language, I'm saying, you do not know that.

• 59:22Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a limousine liberal. Tommy, you're talking about Benny Bronto from the Bronx. I would never say he's a limousine liberal with a misspelled t-shirt, never.

• 59:30Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, guys, on behalf of the people that live in Miami, I have taken in several Venezuelan, Colombian, Salvadorian, big booty Latinas, just in case they needed a place to stay. But that was, that was a one thing, that was a one time thing.

• 59:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Was it thickies is what you guys?

• 59:50Adam Sosnick?

  A little thickies.

• 59:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Was this a summer thing or on the hourly rate?

• 59:53Adam Sosnick?

  The Latinas can stay, but the reality is, and I appreciate what you're doing, P P D, you're exposing his hypocrisy. I was, over the weekend, there was a guy that was doing a, sort of a man on the street in London, and they were talking about open borders, let everybody stay. In this case, it was maybe Muslims or Pakistanis, whatever it was. And they're like, let him in, let him stay. He's like, well, would you let them stay in your house? And to watch, well, you know, I have four roommates right now and I really can't, and I live with my mom, so I really can't.

• 1:00:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Can't do it.

• 1:00:22Adam Sosnick?

  But, you know, my girlfriend, she, I would. My girlfriend, she wouldn't. And every single one of them was like, I'm terribly sorry, I can't. If I had more room, I would. All you're doing is exposing their hypocrisy.

• 1:00:36Tom Ellsworth?

  All of them.

• 1:00:36Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, come on in, stay wherever you want. Can they stay with you? Oh, sorry, the room's taken.

• 1:00:41Speaker 04

  Adam, it's this, you're 100% right. It's the same people that were like, bring up open border, let them all in. We're gonna send them to Martha's Vineyard. They were like, get them the f**k out of here. Get everybody out of Martha's Vineyard. There was like 30 of them there.

• 1:00:54Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, true story, true story. They wanted more cops in Beverly Hills, which has its own police force.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:01:00Adam Sosnick?

  But I think, you mentioned, I think, Ellis Island earlier?

• 1:01:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you know, the place that was specifically built so that immigrants could be processed here and could assimilate in America.

• 1:01:12Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you. So like my great grandparents came through Ellis Island. They came from Europe, right? From Russia.

• 1:01:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Big donors to AIPAC.

• 1:01:19Adam Sosnick?

  Big time, big time. What's wrong with being a donor to AIPAC?

• 1:01:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just saying.

• 1:01:23Tom Ellsworth?

  No, nothing.

• 1:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember, my daughter at nine years old is being recruited already.

• 1:01:27Adam Sosnick?

  But, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But the reality is this, what he's discounting is what I would call the immigrant's journey. Every single one of our first generation parents or grandparents had to pay the price and sacrifice. Your father was, worked at a 99 cent store.

• 1:01:45Patrick Bet-David?

  In Inglewood.

• 1:01:45Adam Sosnick?

  My great grandfather was a butcher.

• 1:01:48Patrick Bet-David?

  We can donate to Goodwill. That's how bad it was for us.

• 1:01:50Adam Sosnick?

  So every single first generation immigrant doesn't speak that language. They have to get a job. They have to start somewhere. But their kids will be better off and their grandkids will be better off. It started with the Irish, then it was Italians, then it was the Jews, then it was the USSR. Now it's the Mexicans, the South markets. We've all, all our grandparents have had to pay the price. And to act like someone is special because they came more recent and didn't have to go through the proper legal protocols to become a citizen, you don't get to skip the line. And that's why, here's the biggest point. The loudest, most annoyed people are the Latinos who went through the immigration process the right way. They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No quiero mi gente aquí skipping the line.

• 1:02:35Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think so.

• 1:02:36Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what?

• 1:02:37Adam Sosnick?

  So they're very upset.

• 1:02:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think you fully have an, I send you a clip. I don't think you fully have an understanding of what they went through as a white man. And I don't think you have the right to comment on this.

• 1:02:46Tom Ellsworth?

  You're white, Adam. You don't, you can't get it.

• 1:02:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if you, if you go to this clip here, Rob.

• 1:02:50Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of people don't think I'm white because I'm Jewish.

• 1:02:51Patrick Bet-David?

  If you watch this clip, watch this here, Mr. White Man.

• 1:02:55Speaker 13

  Also, I want to respond to you saying that I was hyperbolic when I talked about a reign of terror. No, it might be hyperbolic for you as a white man. Oh, okay. It's certainly not hyperbolic for me as a Latino. No, I'm not being racist. To discuss my opinion for being a white man. No, I'm not discussing your opinion. I am telling you that what Latino, the Latino. community, the brown community in America. Okay, well, let me speak with my voice. You said I was being hyperbolic.

• 1:03:20Adam Sosnick?

  Let me be emotional.

• 1:03:21Speaker 13

  I'm not being a white man as an insult.

• 1:03:24Speaker 08

  When you invoke it to dismiss my.

• 1:03:25Speaker 13

  Being a white man as an insult.

• 1:03:27Speaker 08

  When you invoke it.

• 1:03:28Speaker 13

  Are you, do you think, do you, do you think Latinos are living under circumstances?

• 1:03:33Speaker 10

  And here comes the worst. Here comes Abby. About to have a whole conversation about that very thing. But I just want to make a point that Brad, all she's saying is that her view of the situation is different from yours.

• 1:03:45Adam Sosnick?

  Dear Abby, you're so cute.

• 1:03:48Speaker 04

  Sticking up for the racist. Sticking up for the racist. Why the hell, by the way, isn't Nevada on the view?

• 1:03:54Adam Sosnick?

  What the hell was that stupid white guy thinking by talking?

• 1:03:57Speaker 04

  Like, stay on the view, why? Oh, my God.

• 1:03:59Adam Sosnick?

  Stupid ass white guy.

• 1:04:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Abby, Abby would flagrant Caitlyn Clark before the opening tip off.

• 1:04:04Adam Sosnick?

  We even have a white guy right there.

• 1:04:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, let's go talk, let's go talk about what's going on.

• 1:04:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at Canadians, very white.

• 1:04:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Jamie, Jamie Dimon has a blunt message for Europe. You're losing, okay? Jamie Dimon said at an event in Ireland's Department of Foreign Affairs, you're losing regarding Europe's decline competitiveness compared to US and Asia, noting that Europe has gone from 90% US GDP to 65% over 10 or 15 years. That's not good. He further stated, we've got this huge stock market and our companies are big and successful, huge kinds of scale that are global. You have that, but less and less, pointing out Europe's lack of global scale corporations to boost competitiveness. Dimon advocated for unified European markets, saying everything should be a single market and specified to finish it.

• 1:04:50Patrick Bet-David?

  In the single market also means common banks, common disclosure laws, common exchange, common transparency, laws and climate. This addresses Europe's challenge with trade barriers, incomplete capital markets and banking unions and fractured trade ties with the US and China alongside issues in energy, critical minerals, data centers, satellite communications and digital services. Tom, your thoughts on the story?

• 1:05:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Jamie Dimon is right, and he's pointing out, saying, once upon a time, before you guys with your liberal, and by the way, he also goes on to say, by the way, I'm barely a Democrat.

• 1:05:24Speaker 04

  So that means he's a Republican.

• 1:05:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, yeah, well, I guess in New York, you have to say that, but Jamie Dimon can say whatever he wants. You know what I mean? He could come out and say, "Look, I'm a registered Republican, now deal with it." Right? What Jamie Dimon is talking about is the socialism and the liberalism didn't work. He's specifically getting into things, he says, "You have, you don't have a unified banking system." Santander doesn't have to be the official bank of all Europe, it's in Spain, but why don't you have a unified system? You know, HSBC, you know, the bank of, that's allegedly funded more, you know, you know, currency washing for terrorist organizations, HSBC.

• 1:06:08Tom Ellsworth?

  He's just saying, "Look, you're not the Bank of England, and you're not the only bank of the UK." There needs to be unification. And he's like, "If you guys would just unify and not regulate so much, you would have kept up." But you didn't keep up! You were 90% of us, and then we kept cruisin', and you ended up where you are. And by the way, you ready for this? They are trying to figure out in the UK right now, are we having a recession or a contraction? Because they've had a tremendous number of billionaires move and move their companies out of the UK. It isn't even close, they're number one with the exits.

• 1:06:49Tom Ellsworth?

  And so Jamie Dimon is looking over there, and there are stats that back up Jamie Dimon. Where right now, they think it may be a recession coming to the UK. Other people saying, "No, no, no, no, no, Pat, that's not what it is." You know what it is? It's a contraction, because people have permanently left. You know what a recession is? You spend less in Q3 and Q4 than you did in Q2. And then you come back up in Q1. That would be like you having a personal recession, because maybe you're in sales and your commissions were down. That's a recession. Now, you suddenly spend a thousand less per month for the next two years. Why? Well, it's a contraction. I lost my overtime.

• 1:07:27Speaker 14

  Yeah.

• 1:07:27Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a contraction. Well, guess what? That's what's happening. And Jamie Dimon is making a great point, saying, dude, you're losers. That's what he said. He said, you're losing and you're blowing it.

• 1:07:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, the good thing is no one on this panel would ever call anybody losers. And so it's not a proper language. So Adam, what are your thoughts on this story?

• 1:07:45Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I have two stats to show you, Rob. Here we go. Jamie Dimon is talking about Europe losing. I want to talk about why America is winning. So not too long ago in 2010, our GDP was pretty much mirror exactly what it was in the Eurozone, right above $14 trillion. So now we've doubled.

• 1:08:07Patrick Bet-David?

  What a great data.

• 1:08:08Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you, baby.

• 1:08:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Great find, Rob.

• 1:08:09Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you. Yeah, it was all Rob. All Rob had to do was open up his text message from Adam. I'm so glad you immigrated here, Rob. Thank you. Rob is such a loser. Yep. Immigration works. Meanwhile, all right, shut it, guys. Meanwhile, the Eurozone has basically done next to nothing. So if the UK, if France, or even Japan was the 51st state in America, the GDP per capita would be less than that of our broke state, Mississippi. So all the people in America were like, America sucks. You can't make money here. I want to move out of America. Go anywhere else you want, buddy. Hey, lady, keep it moving, keep it grooving. Because if you want to go to the UK,

• 1:08:53Adam Sosnick?

  if you want to go to France, if you want to go to Japan, if you want to go to Germany, it ain't better than Mississippi. M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I. There you go. America's the best. And even when we're dealing with challenges, fighting amongst ourselves, our losers are preoccupied on things that doesn't affect their daily life, it's still the greatest place in the world to live and save that money.

• 1:09:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, listen, can you imagine like, uh, how awesome America is that you can choose to build a podcast where audio noise is great and you build it right next to an airport? That there's jets flying by all the time? Yeah, and nobody can hear it. And you still love it? Yeah. And you're like freaking get fired up about it, you know what I'm saying? Look at Trump. You know what's the best thing is when people come to, to campus here and then afterwards are like, uh, this is all you guys? Yeah. No, no, like, are you guys renting? Renting off the building. No, no. Are you guys leasing the land? No, no. So are you in that building or this building? Both? What are you guys doing in that building? Everything. I had no clue what you guys are doing here. It's called the American dream, baby. It's called the American dream. Listen. For Lauderdale, soon to be.

• 1:09:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't care how much you try to sell me, we ain't moving to Belize. We're staying here. Let me tell you. I'm not leaving. Why'd you release our announcement that we're gonna make this soon to be public? I tell you, every single time I can, tell Adam stuff that we're working on bigger projects to announce to the public, now we can't move to Belize. Now we have to consider moving to. If you've announced it on the podcast. Caracas. Alright, well, we'll save money, we're not building the synagogue. Yeah, we're, we're going to complete, uh, let me go to the next store here, okay? Tom's got the jokes, wait till the racist one starts circulating. Ready, folks? Here we go. CVS, Walgreens, Macy's, and dozens more bracing for 1,500 store closures this year amid brutal retail calls and AIPAC. So this is a very, uh, additional, let me read it one more time to you guys.

• 1:10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Everything here, I'm gonna read it one more time, Adam, pay very close attention. CVS, Walgreens, Macy's, and dozens more, bracing for 15,000 store closures this year amid brutal retail calls. The AIPAC was just somebody wrote it here. It had nothing to do with AIPAC. But I got Adam's attention, let me read it to you guys. So we go. Thank you, guys. You're building temples for me? Well, no, no, this is, this is. Is this, is Elmo on the show today, guys? This is important. The hell's going on here? Let me tell you guys why this is important, this is very important, and the reason why this is important is because Adam shops at Walgreens, he gets his clothes from Walgreens. Walgreens has a great suit section. Great sweaters. And I don't care what anybody says about it, it's high quality stuff. Guys, I want everybody to feel what I'm feeling right now and not give a shit what

• 1:11:28Patrick Bet-David?

  anybody thinks. A CoreSite research report revealed that 5,000, 5,822 stores closed in the first half of one year with John Mercer, CoreSite's head of global research, stating. US store closure are up two thirds compared to one year earlier. Damn.

• 1:11:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 1:11:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Two thirds, just a year earlier? We're not talking five years. We're not talking 10 years. We're not even talking about practice. We're talking about a year ago.

• 1:11:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Talk about practice?

• 1:11:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Two thirds?

• 1:12:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Talk about CVS? Nah.

• 1:12:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Damn. While openings are flat. So closures up two thirds and opening is flat.

• 1:12:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, PPD.

• 1:12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Predicting up to 15,000 closures in 2025.

• 1:12:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Why are you surprised?

• 1:12:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Macy's, well, I'm gonna come to you.

• 1:12:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Retailer Kohl's, pharmacy chains Walgreens, CVS, and bankrupt Rite Aid, with which close over 1,000 locations are among the high-profile retailers shutting underperforming stores. The closure of pharmacies, including dozens by Walgreens, CVS, have created pharmacy desert with good RX research, finding that more than 48 million Americans now lack access to a nearby drugstore, up from 41.2 million in 2021. Online competitors like Capsule, Blink Health, Amazon are impacting, bringing more to pharmacies due to their delivery methods inconvenience. Tom, your thoughts on this story?

• 1:12:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, once again, I love this. This is Daily Mail picking on the United States. So, from the land of bad teeth, the Daily Mail in the UK wants to talk about us. Um, okay, well, check this out. You just upset a nice percentage of our audience in the UK. I... And their dentists. That's right. Tom is an anti-dentite.

• 1:13:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, give us some.

• 1:13:13Tom Ellsworth?

  It's just like, you know, sort of the, the, the, the UK smile, sort of the West Virginia of Europe. So, these people are saying, oh, no, now 41.2 million people don't have access to a pharmacy. Guess what, Vinnie? That doesn't mean they don't have access to medication. Because, guess what? Capsule, Blink Health, and Amazon are delivering right now. And you know, Amazon has pharmacy services. And depending on where you are, you might get that stuff in, in, in, in an hour. So, you're not lacking access to emergency health services, like a defibrillator and a paramedic. They're not lacking access to that. And they're not lacking access to medication.

• 1:13:58Tom Ellsworth?

  It's just, there is a shift in how products are being delivered. Take a look at... The way products are being delivered. I remember the first time I went out and I picked up, looked like a, just a rectangular box, a shoebox. I picked it up and it was heavy. I said, "What is this?" I opened up inside it. It was six jars of peanut butter. Three chunky, three smooth. I said, "Kim, why are we buying peanut butter like this?" "'Cause it's Amazon Prime." And we go through a lot of peanut butter this because, you know-

• 1:14:23Speaker 15

  It's your wife.

• 1:14:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Brooke was two, Bailey was seven, and peanut butter, peanut butter on crackers, peanut butter on sandwiches. We went through a lot of peanut butter.

• 1:14:31Speaker 15

  Yeah.

• 1:14:32Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's when I realized, it clicked for me, they just delivered this free.

• 1:14:36Speaker 15

  Yep.

• 1:14:36Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, and wow. And so what's going on here is we're seeing the shift in the way products are being delivered, but the Daily Mail is choosing to make it sound like that there's terrible things going on in America and people are in pharmacy deserts. No, no. They may not have a pharmacy they can walk down to, and besides, everything would be behind glass doors now. We can say, "I need one of those, one of those, one of those." And the guy's got to unlock it for you because of looting.

• 1:15:05Speaker 15

  Weird.

• 1:15:05Tom Ellsworth?

  But it's, people still have access to medication. They don't lack access to medication. And so, and by the way, maybe the Daily Mail can focus on those charts that Adam brought up. That over the last 10 years, we've doubled while you guys are there. You don't have the moral authority, Daily Mail, to talk about us and our economy, especially when you're spinning headlines.

• 1:15:27Adam Sosnick?

  Tom's choosing his enemies wisely. He's going with the Daily Mail.

• 1:15:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, your thoughts on this.

• 1:15:31Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, I'm just gonna simplify this. Is anybody surprised that brick and mortar stores are closing at this point? Every single month, every single year, we talk about more stores closing, more stores closing, more stores closing. This just happens to be the latest victim, which happens to be CVS and Walgreens and apparently Macy's. But it's been Kohl's, it's been JCPenney's, it's been Best Buy, it's been Rite Aid. The list goes on and on and on. Social media has taken over and socializing is becoming sort of a discounted thing of the past. I remember back in the day, like the coolest thing to do when I was in ninth grade, go meet my friends at the mall, then we walk over and go to the movies and do that. And then maybe if we got lucky, we'd go to Walgreens and get some chips and snacks at the end of the night.

• 1:16:15Adam Sosnick?

  Now you can Instacart everything, Amazon everything. Hell, if I want to go get a girl on Tinder, like you could just order whatever you want. So socializing has been replaced by social media. It is what it is. So customers don't need to leave their house anymore. There's nothing wrong with that. So online carts have replaced shopping carts. Now, if you're a business like these businesses, you're looking, you're saying, all right, do I really want to deal with these brick and mortar stores? Do I want to pay rent? Do I want to have employees and margins that I got to deal with? Or should I just move everything online? All it is is just the same thing that keeps popping up over and over again, just with different stores in different locations.

• 1:16:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, I mean, the model is changing and they're going to keep getting disrupted. There's going to be many more businesses that are going to be going through this, especially with the speed that's taking place. The one announcement that YouTube made, which I thought was kind of weird, it was a sign against AI. Okay, and I don't know if you guys saw this or not. YouTube announced that they only pay for real voices and original content starting today. That's today. Today is July 15th, right? Effective today, moving forward, if you have a YouTube channel, a faceless YouTube channel, by the way, that's a massive business model for a lot of people

• 1:17:33Patrick Bet-David?

  that create faceless YouTube channels, creating content generated by AI with the voice that's being made, moving forward, they're not paying adsense on it. If you want to go to the next page, Rob.

• 1:17:47Adam Sosnick?

  So what does this mean exactly?

• 1:17:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So exactly, let me read it to you. So, starting today, YouTube is implementing significant changes to its monetization policies. To qualify for YouTube Partner Program, creators must not produce original content featuring real voices. This is a very, very, and I'll give you my thoughts on this and we can move on. This means that videos relying on AI-generated voices reuses content, reuse content or low-effort complications, compilations, will no longer be eligible for monetization. The platform aims to prioritize authenticity and creativity, ensuring that viewers receive valuable and engaging content. Rob, if you want to go to the next slide. What content is affected YouTube AI generated voices reuse or repetitive content?

• 1:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Low effort. We saw this one. Go to the next page, Rob. And how to stay monetized, use real voices, create unique and authentic content. Add value through commentary or editing, avoid AI generated or recycled. So what's the point here? Let me give you guys the bigger point here, folks. It's so important, so important on what this is validating. The more and more and more we move towards AI. The more and more and more we're going to value the human touch. Such a beautiful thing. Even YouTube, what do you think YouTube cares about? Eyeballs?

• 1:19:06Adam Sosnick?

  Money.

• 1:19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Money, advertisers. Even YouTube is saying that's not as important as us making sure human beings are being recognized. So this is a very important position YouTube took. Because YouTube is saying we're recognizing human beings of content creators. Not machines and robots. And I guarantee you at YouTube headquarters, there's a lot of AI being used. I guarantee you, there's a lot of automation being used. There's a lot of that being used. But people want to hear from other people. People want to hear your opinion. People want to hear what you think about it. Yes, we use chat GPT. Yes, MIT came out and gave 10 reasons why, you know, using chat GPT isn't good for you.

• 1:19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it's making our brain, you know, weaker because it's not putting it to work. But at the end of the day, the human touch is a magical thing. That's going to keep happening. So the more and more disruption happens, the more we're going to come back to the human touch.

• 1:20:02Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, I enjoyed your most recent segment that you did about the challenges of AI. And how, oh, you thought that the kids are going to use it to cheat. Well, now the teachers are using it to grade papers. And basically how AI is disrupting.

• 1:20:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you understand this?

• 1:20:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it's insane. So you know what?

• 1:20:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Stay on that point, stay on that point what you just said, so.

• 1:20:23Adam Sosnick?

  It was a great just sort of understanding that that that humanity within us is the most important thing. How we use AI is more important than how AI uses us. Anyone could just type something in, alright spit it out. You gave an example of how somebody, it wasn't me, I promise you this, when they text you a response that they're chat GPT.

• 1:20:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Every text response I get from these five people, there's like five or six people. How long are they? It's just long? No, no, it's not. It's they take my message and I visualize what they're doing. They take my text and put it in chat GPT and say, Patrick Bedavid sent me this message. Here's what I'd like to say to him. How do I respond back in the best possible way to not upset him? Da da da da da. And then I'm like, do you not know the code on how to read chat GPT text message? And you don't speak like that normally. I'm like, why do you, why do you, just tell me, talk to me.

• 1:21:18Adam Sosnick?

  They should probably delete the part that says, Patrick Bedavid is an Iranian born American entrepreneur.

• 1:21:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I started using words like insagrative. He never uses that word. That's right. So the the part that this MIT article was talking about and and another article we were looking at with Brandon is that originally teachers were chewing out kids saying, stop using chat GPT to write your paper because I'm going to find out. So guess what teachers are now doing? They're taking the homework that the kids are writing, putting it in chat GPT, allowing chat GPT to grade the paper.

• 1:21:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So teachers are now not working to do their part. So it's now the double. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, everybody's involved.

• 1:21:58Adam Sosnick?

  Here's something that I want to emphasize and I think this is a central theme of what you're saying. Remember when we did the the Ritz Carlton training, which was great? They you PBD brought in Ritz Carlton and talked about unreasonable hospitality.

• 1:22:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Ladies and gentlemen, serving ladies and gentlemen.

• 1:22:14Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you, Tom.

• 1:22:16Tom Ellsworth?

  No problem. I'm here if you need me.

• 1:22:17Adam Sosnick?

  You stay right there. And you came up and you came, you give a speech and you said something to the effect of social capital has never been more important. And I actually wrote that down. I was like, what does that mean? The ability to to to. Interact with humans and say, hey, what's up, man? How are you? Every single component that that the world has been basically built upon, interacting with one another has never been more important as AI, as ChatGPT, as all these things are popping up and making us more robotic and needing less human interaction. That's when we'll start to see the the need and the craving for more human interaction. Why did you focus on social capital and use those specific terms? Do you remember saying that?

• 1:23:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course. I'll I'll spend a little bit of time on that. I'm gonna go to the next story. Here's what I'll tell you. Guy comes up to me. We launched Manect. Guy comes up to me and he says the following, he says, Patrick, you realize? Let me show you what I built for you. So what's that? He shows it to me. He said, based on all the content that you have online and all the material that you have online, you know, we decided to take all your books, all your videos, everything, and we're able to get an accuracy score of around 98% of whatever you would respond to. And you don't have to be anywhere. This app can do that for you. I said, that's exactly what I'm trying to get away from. He says, what do you mean? I said, that's what we build Manect. On Manect, when somebody asks you a question, you get real audio. And by the way, if somebody responds back on Manect, with ChatGPT response on X, you get a one star. That's why I love Manect. People give one star reviews.

• 1:23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And so you'll go to somebody and like, I don't want to Manect this guy. He doesn't give real answers. And then you'll go to somebody like, this guy's a 4.8 star. I want to talk to this guy. This guy gives real answers, right? That's the beautiful part about Manect that we can have a real life conversation. By the way, those of you guys that I I got the story I want to get to right after this, a story about what happened with the tariffs for Brazil and Russia and Putin and Bolsonaro. One of the things he's doing with Brazil is very interesting. For some of you guys that were competing for the Manect contest, Rob, if you can go to the manect dot com and go to the leaders bulletin, the dinner is about to come up. I cannot wait to have this. I don't want to announce it. But the dinner is about to come up. Winner is going to be chosen by the end of the month. Look at this right now by lightweight. You look at first place now for lightweight. John Kirakou.

• 1:24:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, he's responded to 61 completed Manect.

• 1:24:34Adam Sosnick?

  I Manected him.

• 1:24:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He was just on podcast last week.

• 1:24:36Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, good job, John.

• 1:24:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's a former CIA officer, the first ever whistleblower to go against the government. And he's Responding on the next he's first place now Ashley Glenn second then you have Julio Gonzalez accountant he's given a lot of counsel on that and you got a bunch of other guys that are competing now keep him on Rhino YouTuber he's also there you can ask him question Giancarlo a G who gives very good answers bunch of other guys that are on there right now if you go to middleweight go to the middleweight your top three will be competing in each category combined score June and July folks Dean Mason first place at 127 Aaron Mon second place Tommy Robinson you got DJ Shipley the man Navy SEAL Team 10 stud of a guy Patricia Velasquez Konstantin

• 1:25:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Koropov Wade Wade wine good guy Roman Sharp watch questions ask him Amy Dangerfield Bradley stud of a guy go to heavyweight then you have John Mason Daniel DeBrincat who my kids were bullying yesterday Sebastian Garcia Michael Mara Sardor Santino a bunch of guys Sappala Brock Patrick William Cap and then go to the super heavyweight she's gonna break a record this week Lindy Lee she's already done 278 completed manect the record for the most manect done in a month completed is 478 she's gonna shatter it Vinnie's right behind her Timothy Ryan myself Tom Elliott Sauce Vargas bunch of other guys and then go to users look what's going on the

• 1:26:00Patrick Bet-David?

  users asking questions Rob go to users all the way at the top yeah users look at the users for new people okay Kyle and Webb first place asked 22 manect these are people that are asking questions and they will be also invited to the dinner the competitors Look at the heavy one Yeah and then go to heavyweight I don't recognize any of those names they asked me zero questions Damn he's asked 303 questions on there Dalton Dorothy Dalton and Dorothy have a real thing going on competitively Dorothy doesn't play games No she doesn't then you have Hecca Chris Ryan Hecca's awesome Bunch of Harriet Anas and Eric so anyways excited excited to see what happens with the manect dinner and who'll be invited to it go download the app start manecting today by the

• 1:26:45Patrick Bet-David?

  way some massive announcements will be on made on manect at the Vault Conference can't Is the dinner this month? No dinner's gonna be next month Vinnie Another dinner I'm excited Alright let's talk about terrorists so check this out the president is pissed Trump's Brazil tariff threat is part of a bigger geopolitical dispute. And he's trying to find a way, Rob, if you've got a clip on this one, if you want to pull it up. I think you do. Uh, if you can go to, this is about the Brazil thing on page seven. So let me read this to you because this, this is, this is when it's getting tricky. But I like what he's doing. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:27:28Speaker 14

  Maybe at some point I'll talk to him. Right now I'm not. They're treating President Bolsonaro very unfairly. He's a good man. You know, I know him well. I negotiated with him. Uh, he was a very tough negotiator and I can tell you, he was a very honest man. And he loved the people of Brazil. He was a very tough guy to negotiate with. I shouldn't like him because he was very tough in negotiation. But he was also very honest and I know the honest ones and I know the crooked ones.

• 1:27:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause right there. So President Trump threatened a 50% tariff on Brazil. Driven by his support for Bolsonaro and frustration with Brazil's role in BRICS. Uh, coalition, which he views as a threat due to its push for reserve currency. Alternative to the US dollar. Trump wrote on Truth Social, "This is nothing more or less than an attack on political opponents." Something I know a lot about. And accused Brazil of issuing hundreds of secret and unlawful censorship orders on US social media platforms. The decision followed by BRICS summit in Rio de Janeiro. Which Mauricio Clavocarone, a close ally to Secretary Marco Rubio and Trump's former special envoy, Latan, said. Tipped the scale. And obviously while this is going on.

• 1:28:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, there's a bunch of other decisions being made with. Uh, uh, uh, New York Times even came out on a story talking about behind Trump's decision to tax Brazil. To say Bolsonaro, Eduardo Bolsonaro, his son, good guy, 41 years old. He's a sitting Brazilian congressman and son of Bolsonaro. Has been lobbying US officials claiming the Brazil Supreme Court.

• 1:29:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Justiz, Alexandre de Mora, is not a good guy, is targeting him and his father for fighting a stolen election prompting Trump to post online, this is nothing more or less than an attack on a political opponent, something I know a lot about, which happens to me, times 10, and so they're driving this. Now, obviously, Trump's decision to impose tariffs, described by Steve Bannon, as "I love it," and a more move even he hadn't considered was made alone, according to two people familiar with the private meeting, with Bannon stating, "If you drop the trial and drop the charges, the tariffs go away." Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 1:29:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, it's interesting, both the New York Times and Politico, you know, want to call it tariffs because they could point at the president. Well, you know, screw you both, screw you both, Politico and New York Times, because you know the word you should be using here? You should be using three words: economic sanctions and leadership. When around the world, countries behave badly, the United States has shown up with these two words: economic sanctions, and it's because of leadership. And that's exactly what the president is doing here. "Oh, more tariffs is going to create problems, more tariffs." The tariff is merely a tool of the economic sanction, and tariffs have been part of economic

• 1:30:18Tom Ellsworth?

  sanctions forever. There's two big things in your arsenal you can use. You can use a blockade, and you can use tariffs, which cuts off oxygen to the economy of the party that's offending. You know, like when, you know, Iraq invades Kuwait, and you're like, "Okay, man, we're going to come in and save them, or we're going to, you know, have a blockade here. This is not going to end well for you, dude. We're taking economic sanctions." And so, the president, in the name of free elections, and in the name of thwarting the false, phony, monkey trial and false imprisonment of Bolsonaro, is trying to get their opinion, and let me tell you, it's not going to take much, because he's about to get their opinion.

• 1:31:03Tom Ellsworth?

  The other thing is, they're trying to line up with, there's a very interesting thing in BRICS, and it's right in the middle of BRICS, and it's the "I" for India. India's trying to play nice on one hand, on the other hand, they're part of BRICS. And so, South Africa is South Africa. I said, but Brazil...

• 1:31:23Adam Sosnick?

  You know, they're getting their attention, and he's getting their attention. But this is economic sanctions. This isn't tariffs. Tariff is just a tool. He's going after it, and he's trying to do this in the name of freedom, in the name of free elections, in the name of-

• 1:31:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Question is, is it gonna work? That's the question. Will it work or will it not work? Are the Brazilian people gonna do anything about it? Is Alexandre de Moraes really gonna give a shit about the 50%? The number that came out with the story, that you see, combined with the story, and Adam, I'm gonna come to you. Coffee prices climb after Trump threatens 50% tariff on Brazil. And so, that, the economy is gonna take a hit with that. Buyers are gonna feel it. The 50% tariffs, the world's biggest coffee producer, starting August 1st, as stated in a letter posted on Truth Social on Wednesday accusing Brazil government of attacking free speech. Arabic coffee prices in New York climbed more than 3.5% on Thursday morning, later settled

• 1:32:18Patrick Bet-David?

  around 2.5% higher, with a trader noting the letter was sending shockwaves across the coffee industry due to US's Brazil main coffee bar. Giuseppe Lavazza, chair of Lavazza Group, which owns Lavazza Coffee, warned on Wednesday before Trump's Brazil tariff threat, the tariffs between US and coffee-producing countries like Brazil and Vietnam would be challenging, stating the problem is to have tariffs between US and Brazil, US and Vietnam, US and all other countries, where coffee is produced, predicting a rise in the cost of coffee in the US by approximately 34%. So, we'll see what's gonna happen with this one here. Adam, your thoughts on this, you know, exchange with Brazil?

• 1:32:54Adam Sosnick?

  So, I actually have a question for you. Why you're been so focused on Brazil? Because, born and raised in Miami, I have a lot of Brazilian friends. When I think of Brazil, I think of three things. Soccer, beautiful samba beats, and massive corruption. Massive corruption. Everyone I know goes to Brazil, they're like, "Oh, you gotta be careful, you gotta have security, be careful from the favelas. If you go to the beach, it's incredible." And you know what? Just never been a thing on my thing. I don't focus on Brazil at all. But I've learned from you. When you sat down with Jair Bolsonaro, when you had an entire Brazilian panel on it, why is it so important to you? Because there's multiple countries in Latin America.

• 1:33:35Adam Sosnick?

  We hopefully keep them from going the way of El Salvador, or Mexico, or Guatemala, these countries that are coming here. Lula, socialist. We've seen what's going on there. Jair Bolsonaro's been called Trump of the tropics. I want to understand why Brazil has been so important to you on this program.

• 1:33:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, for me, I named my daughter after Ayatollah Senna. This morning, I'm walking in a community. This lady who's a worker in the community, I notice she pulls up the car, and she parks right in front of me, and she keeps driving in front of me, and I'm like, whoa. So then, all of a sudden, my paranoid radar is like, okay, something's about to happen, so I'm ready, and I don't know who's in the car. Then she gets out of the car, then she starts walking up to me. I'm like, okay, at least she's got a smile on her face. Probably in her mid to late 40s. And I said, hi. She says, hi. She says, I just want to tell you, we really appreciate what you're doing for Brazil. This is this morning, at 6:30, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00. Yeah, I said, oh, thanks. My son never misses a single show that you do. He watches everything. And I said, well, thank you. And I said, Jair Bolsonaro, Eduardo, all this stuff.

• 1:34:41Patrick Bet-David?

  She said, I watch all of them. You know, we appreciate what you've got going on for Brazil. I told her about my daughter being named Senna. I love Brazilians. They're such incredible people. I enjoy their company. They're loud, they're funny, they're fun, they're good to be around. The food, the jokes, the sarcasm, the soccer, the racing, the history. It's a great experience. And it's another place that when shitty politics get a hold of a great country, they destroy a great nation.

• 1:35:10Patrick Bet-David?

  As a kid, when you grow up, in Iran, the number one sport in the world was football, in Iran. You followed everything with soccer. You always knew the names, you know, you knew Pele. The other day, Dylan had a meeting with the former captain of the Brazilian national team, Emerson. Emerson, I don't know if you tap in Emerson Brazil Soccer. He's a legend, and Emerson spent a few hours with Dylan. And he's grabbing Dylan's calves, and he's like, he's got soccer legs. He's got soccer legs. Emerson, OG Emerson, old-school Emerson. Just tap in Emerson Brazil Captain. You know, Captain, if you tap in, yeah, it should come up. That's the one right there. Yeah, this guy was a G. I mean, he was a legend in what he did, winning. Uh, uh, multiple World Cups, I believe, when he was out there, maybe one or two. He won a couple of them.

• 1:35:54Adam Sosnick?

  You said that when you went to Brazil and you did the interview. Brasilia, you, you described that city and like the communist background of that city.

• 1:36:02Patrick Bet-David?

  They build it in such a communistic way where everything looks the same. And they build it away from everything. So if they ever want to protest to go to the government, it's so far that nobody wants to go to it.

• 1:36:14Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, weird.

• 1:36:14Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not a place you want to. Vinny, did you go with us? I didn't go. Did you go with us? Who went with us when we went there?

• 1:36:19Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no.

• 1:36:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me tell you, man, while we're at the airport coming back, you're telling the story. We're waiting 12 hours at the airport. Rob, you were there, right?

• 1:36:27Adam Sosnick?

  Estras was there.

• 1:36:28Patrick Bet-David?

  12 hours, we're waiting at the airport to leave. And we, we have a direct flight to Miami. Last minute, people are worried about what's going on. We just ended up flying to Peru.

• 1:36:37Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 1:36:37Patrick Bet-David?

  We ended up flying to Peru and then we flew from Peru to here because it was, you know, we have security with us, the security is waiting with, it was a very weird place to be. But the people, phenomenal. The food, ridiculous. We went to this one joint we ate. I just, I can't wait to go back, except I'd like to go back when Brazil is free again, not held hostage by this animal.

• 1:36:58Adam Sosnick?

  I have one more question for you on this.

• 1:37:02Adam Sosnick?

  We consistently see certain countries in Latin America that no matter what, keep going back to socialist policies. Like you see what happened in, uh, some of the numbers that have come out of Argentina lately. With, uh, uh, some, what's our friend's name over there? Uh, Javier Melé Afuera? About how he's basically reversed sort of the unemployment, the inflation, all the economic numbers, the housing, everything like that, what he's been able to do in Argentina. Why consistently, in some countries, in Latin America specifically, do they keep going back to this BS socialist policies?

• 1:37:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll keep it simple and I'll go to my next story that has to do with this. Because manipulating, brainwashing, and owning the poor is a great business model that they use everywhere around the world. And they're easy to control. Because you use the most magical four-letter word that starts with the letter F. And it's so effective. There is no more powerful word to own.

• 1:38:04Patrick Bet-David?

  A group of people then dropping that F-bomb. Free. We're gonna give you free programs, free healthcare, free food. Oh my God. That F-word gets a hold of everybody and it brings the worst people in power and destroys an entire nation. And this is the one that you're talking about with numbers that we saw. On December 10th of 2023, Mile becomes the first Libertarian president. Leftists freak out. One and a half year later, this is what the numbers look like. Brought monthly inflation down from 25.5% to 1.5% a five-year low. Brought the poverty rate

• 1:38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  down to an estimated 33.7% six-year low. Scraped rent controls resulting in a 40% decrease in rent prices in Buenos Aires. Achieved Argentina's first budget surplus in 14 years. Delivered 7.6% year-over-year GDP growth in Q2 of 2025. And guess who is trying to do all the policies that he fixed in New York City? A guy named Mamdani. Watch this here. Yeah. Mamdani, the stuff that's coming out. One time, I don't know if you saw the story, Rob, or not. There was a story of Mamdani does a podcast about four or five years ago. In a podcast, he talks about the fact that the NYPD shouldn't show up if there is domestic violence. Why call the cops when there's a domestic violence call? Cops shouldn't show up.

• 1:39:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Because other people should show up. Well, what do you mean? This is literally a story of five years ago. Zohran Mamdani said NYPD shouldn't respond to domestic violence calls and resurfaced podcast interview. Can you imagine that? So, a, an idea of domestic violence, a woman's being beaten. No, no, don't call the cops because they don't know what they're doing. Go a little bit lower on the story. Okay, and by the way, this, this is not that long ago, Rob, if you can go, no, a little bit higher so I can read the story. You skipped all of it, yeah. Okay, so Mamdani resurfaced that NYPD shouldn't be responsible for domestic violence calls. The democratic socialist said five years ago NYPD shouldn't respond to it due to calls to fear escalation. If somebody is surviving, going through domestic violence,

• 1:40:09Patrick Bet-David?

  there are so many different, different situations that would far better be handled by people trained to deal with this specific situations as opposed to an individual with a gun who has received quite a limited amount of training in general, but also in regards to specific situation. Do you know what domestic, what is the definition of domestic violence? Can you go to the definition, Rob, of domestic violence? Just type in, what does domestic violence mean? Okay, what does domestic violence mean? Okay, zoom in a little bit, what it means.

• 1:40:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Domestic violence, definition, refers to pattern of used to be a relation of one part against another. Okay, spouses, romantic partners, family members, but types of domestic violence, physical abuse, hitting, slapping, pushing, choking, or using weapons. Okay, now, ask the question, what role, why, what role do cops play when it comes down to domestic violence? What role do cops play in domestic violence? Isn't, isn't there the word violence in there? Yeah. Isn't violence like something that you call cops to protect you from? Yeah. And violence means violence, right? Critical role, by the way.

• 1:41:22Patrick Bet-David?

  In responding to preventing and investigating domestic violence, their responsibility can vary by jurisdiction, but generally include the following, police are often the first responders to 9/11 calls, 911 calls. Their priority is to secure the scene, protect the victims, they separate the parties, they may help the victim get medical attention, relocate to shelters, other kind of support, evidence collection and arrest, okay? We've all seen the show Cops before, when the cops show up. This guy's trying to be the mayor of New York City, and he makes comments like this. However, there's a city in Florida called Palm Beach. Oh, yeah. Tom,

• 1:41:59Patrick Bet-David?

  that wants to cash in on the M'Nani effect. Okay, that wants to cash in on the M'Nani effect. So what is the M'Nani effect?

• 1:42:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Palm Beach County Business Development Board is actively courting New York City businesses, sending 500 relocation packages to CEOs and executives as socialist Mamdani leads polls with 35% against Cuomo 29, Curtis Silva 16, and Mayor Adams 13.8. The board's president and CEO told Palm Beach Post, "The second the results came out, my phone started lighting up," she added. "It's a good thing we are very nimble. We can act quickly and strike when the iron is hot." John Boyd, who runs a Boca Raton-based company aiding corporate relocations, warned the Mamdani effect, stating, "Here's something one of my clients shared. Even if Mamdani is stopped in November, the idea that New York is one election cycle away from becoming a socialist-run city creates an enormous risk for companies."

• 1:42:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Polls indicate Mamdani leads after defeating Cuomo in Democratic primary. Boyd noted, "The perception could drive business and wealthy residents to Florida regardless of the election outcome."

• 1:43:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom? This is wonderful. This is startup mentality and capitalism at work. This is when Pat and I went to a conference that was put on by a business organization, and at that conference, we met the mayor of Frisco, Texas. And by the way, this conference was roughly 1,000 miles from Frisco, Texas. So it wasn't like he was in his home backyard, "Hey, welcome to Frisco. How you doing? Can I get you a beer?" No, it was, we were helen-gone from Frisco. But he was saying, "Hey, we're out here to promote the fact that we have economic development packages, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."

• 1:43:45Tom Ellsworth?

  This is also, the governor of Texas, Perry, was running billboards in California. "Does this state suck? Here's one that doesn't," right? You know, "Come to Texas." And by the way, they all flipped out. California flipped out because, guess what? California may be liberal, but the guy that owned the billboards was a capitalist. "You have a check? You have a message? Okay, we have a deal." And so now Palm Beach County is like, "Well, okay, we have 500 relocation packets going up to people, and we've got the local real estate people saying, 'Wow, things just picked up over the weekend.'" Guess what?

• 1:44:23Tom Ellsworth?

  New York is bout to shoot itself in its other foot. It shot itself in the foot with Covid and what it did in Covid and how people were upset by that and people fled New York and left at that time. Now it's going to shoot itself in its other foot because a guy whose religious beliefs are such that if you're involved with domestic violence with your wife, that's okay because you own her and under Sharia law, I don't have to be subject to a cop. It says, "She burnt my toast." You know, one slap, one slap, "Good morning." Two slaps, "I love you." You know, it's a whole, there's a whole, there's a whole rate card here that goes in this.

• 1:45:04Adam Sosnick?

  What, you mentioned something about Sharia law. What's Sharia law? I'm starting to hear this thing pop up from time to time. Describe what that is, if you don't mind.

• 1:45:12Tom Ellsworth?

  That is an independent set of laws of people of the Islamic faith who believe that, you know, they should be self-governed separately.

• 1:45:21Adam Sosnick?

  Okay. So is there a separation between church and state or mosque and shade under Sharia law?

• 1:45:27Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they believe that that law is above the law of any jurisdiction, any jurisdiction they're living in because the laws of the infidels or the jurisdiction of a country which is run by infidels is second to their laws.

• 1:45:44Adam Sosnick?

  Interesting. I'm starting to hear this pop up from time to time now, the Sharia law thing and this jihad thing. What other countries in the world practice Sharia law currently?

• 1:45:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I could, you know, pick any of them, any of them that surround.

• 1:45:59Patrick Bet-David?

  But Tom, you can be right because what Chad GBT says is Sharia law is to practice compassion. Go a little bit lower, Rob. No, you just had it. Right there it says, "It's meant to promote justice, compassionate, moral behavior."

• 1:46:11Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:46:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It is interpreted differently depending on the country and the school of thought. Sunni and Shia and the legal scholars.

• 1:46:17Adam Sosnick?

  Which countries are using it the most, Rob?

• 1:46:20Speaker 04

  You can ask a question too, but can you?

• 1:46:21Adam Sosnick?

  Where did this come from? The Islamic Republic of Iran uses that. Interesting.

• 1:46:25Speaker 04

  But can you?

• 1:46:26Adam Sosnick?

  There's no separation of church and state or mosque and state.

• 1:46:28Speaker 04

  Is there any state, is there any?

• 1:46:30Adam Sosnick?

  In Iran, interesting. So are you saying that Zohran Mamdani wants to implement Sharia law and infuse communism in New York?

• 1:46:37Tom Ellsworth?

  My wife burnt the toast under Sharia law, you'll find out.

• 1:46:40Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, here it is. The, in Afghanistan, under Taliban control, they practice it. That's nice, okay? Sudan, where I think, I don't know, hundreds of thousands of people have died recently.

• 1:46:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh wait, look at Afghanistan bullet two. We read that one, Adam? You're very interested in learning about this. How about Afghan, Afghanistan bullet two?

• 1:46:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, includes bans on female education beyond grade six. Public beatings and morality, police enforcement.

• 1:47:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, they do have police.

• 1:47:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait a minute, I thought Chad GPT says compassion?

• 1:47:08Adam Sosnick?

  Well, this is compassion. They let them go up to grade six.

• 1:47:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you ask Chad GPT? I thought you said compassion. Does point number two on Afghanistan represent compassion?

• 1:47:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what Chad GPT says.

• 1:47:21Adam Sosnick?

  I did have compassion. Lucky I didn't kill you. I'm not gonna sit here as a red-blooded American, have you condemn Sharia law. It may come to America. We better be ready for it.

• 1:47:31Speaker 04

  No city is, or ever will be, because guess what?

• 1:47:34Adam Sosnick?

  You need to be a little bit more inclusive and receptive to new ideas.

• 1:47:38Speaker 04

  The constitution would have to be overthrown.

• 1:47:40Adam Sosnick?

  No, I don't know about that.

• 1:47:41Speaker 04

  So guess what?

• 1:47:42Adam Sosnick?

  Why were you?

• 1:47:42Speaker 04

  Good luck. And you know what the crazy thing about all these places, Adam? About all the UK and everywhere? Guess what, buddy? Second Amendment. Nobody talks all that shit and does any of that shit. But listen, little Mamdani with his fake-ass smile could talk all the shit that he wants and how, you know, Sharia law and all these. No city is there, no, unless they literally overthrow this place, ain't gonna happen, brother.

• 1:48:05Adam Sosnick?

  Why don't?

• 1:48:06Speaker 04

  We got guns.

• 1:48:07Adam Sosnick?

  Why don't we just be a little bit, hold on? Are there Sharia law courts in the United States? More receptive?

• 1:48:13Speaker 04

  Are there Sharia?

• 1:48:14Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny?

• 1:48:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, they're in Dearborn and Minneapolis.

• 1:48:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You're saying it's not possible to happen here?

• 1:48:20Speaker 04

  No, what I'm saying is... Vinny, why don't you just be a little bit more receptive to something new? Is there any city here under Sharia law in the United States? Is there any city? What's wrong with it? Rob, I'm just curious. And, Rob, ask this. Is there any city here, number one, under Sharia law? And what would it have to take to actually have a city under Sharia law? But what's wrong with it?

• 1:48:40Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but I'm curious, Vinny. I'm really curious.

• 1:48:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:48:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think it's possible for it to happen here in America?

• 1:48:46Speaker 04

  No, I didn't say that. What I'm saying is, they would have to overthrow the Constitution of the United States. Nah, you just get a mayor there in New York. That's what I'm saying.

• 1:48:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you do me a favor and play the clip I just sent you, Rob? Play the clip I just sent you.

• 1:48:58Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 1:48:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It's becoming more and more and more evident what the motive is.

• 1:49:03Speaker 04

  Prohibits any religious laws from being allowed.

• 1:49:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and, and, and, trust me, the community that doesn't think it's possible, they will be in 20 years having a very different tone. I want you to watch this here, okay? Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:49:16Speaker 01

  ...through Congress. So before, it was by the sword. Now, it's getting themselves into Parliament and then making laws that act as the sword, the Islamophobia law in Canada, M103. Yeah. Islam Brotherhood.

• 1:49:30Speaker 16

  I find that there are only two things which are open to our movements. Ballot or bullet, nothing in between.

• 1:49:39Speaker 17

  I used to say that democracy is haram. Now, I say participation in democracy is our jihad. That's our jihad. We're gonna fight not through the bullets, but the ballots.

• 1:49:48Speaker 18

  Going to the ballot and voting is now an obligatory action, farz-e-in. And it is a jihad that is now needs to be done because this is our modern jihad. You can elect a person who wants the Sharia.

• 1:49:59Speaker 19

  Because in the United States, what we do know is that in the past election, just this last election, there have been over 800 Muslim candidates running for office.

• 1:50:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Bingo.

• 1:50:09Speaker 20

  We may end up with about 50 members of Congress in the next six years. That's really the essence of dismantling.

• 1:50:19Speaker 20

  The system of injustice is to replace it with the people who represent the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam. Oh damn.

• 1:50:28Adam Sosnick?

  What's... That was very aggressive.

• 1:50:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Isaac wanted to make sure you got the point.

• 1:50:31Adam Sosnick?

  Those are politicians that are running for office in Muslim countries in the Middle East?

• 1:50:37Tom Ellsworth?

  And there are Sharia law courts in America.

• 1:50:39Adam Sosnick?

  Where are those people located?

• 1:50:40Tom Ellsworth?

  That are used by the people of those communities rather than US courts and resources.

• 1:50:46Adam Sosnick?

  But those politicians, I want to be very clear here, where were those people located? They were in the Middle East? Or were they in America? Those interviewers, some of the interviewers were in the Middle East.

• 1:50:54Tom Ellsworth?

  That's all America there.

• 1:50:54Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, that was in America? Okay.

• 1:50:57Speaker 04

  Adam, I'm sensing you're being sarcastic. What I'm saying is, anything's possible, but good luck.

• 1:51:03Adam Sosnick?

  Are you trying to tell me, are you trying to tell me that certain hardcore extremists, maybe Muslim Sharia law advocates, are trying their best to do that in America and in Europe?

• 1:51:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:51:14Adam Sosnick?

  Is that what you're trying to say?

• 1:51:15Speaker 04

  Well, no, in Europe, they had been very successful because...

• 1:51:16Adam Sosnick?

  You're saying they've done it already in Europe?

• 1:51:17Speaker 04

  No, in Europe, yeah.

• 1:51:18Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my... Are you trying to tell me there's certain cities in Europe that have been overrun with extremists?

• 1:51:25Speaker 04

  What's the difference between, uh, what's the difference between UK and the United States?

• 1:51:28Adam Sosnick?

  Do you have videos of this?

• 1:51:29Speaker 04

  What's the difference between the UK and the United States?

• 1:51:30Adam Sosnick?

  We got a Second Amendment? I don't know.

• 1:51:32Speaker 04

  We're, I know, I guess, I'm not saying they're not gonna try. Good luck. Bring that, bring that war to us.

• 1:51:38Adam Sosnick?

  Here's actually what I'm okay with, I'm actually not even joking here, it's okay, they could do it here if we could do it there. So there's a lot of Christians and Jews running for office in Muslim-run countries, right?

• 1:51:49Speaker 04

  I don't know, you tell me.

• 1:51:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me just show you something.

• 1:51:51Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, there's zero?

• 1:51:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Not exactly.

• 1:51:53Adam Sosnick?

  There's zero?

• 1:51:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you show this next one, Rob? Go ahead and play this next one.

• 1:51:57Adam Sosnick?

  That's a double standard, if you ask me.

• 1:51:58Patrick Bet-David?

  This is from Muslim Brotherhood from 1990.

• 1:52:00Adam Sosnick?

  This is one, uh, is this a video? The same Muslim Brotherhood?

• 1:52:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Muslim Brotherhood from 1990.

• 1:52:03Tom Ellsworth?

  That is the, uh, it looks like the same clip.

• 1:52:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not, Rob. Maybe I sent you the same clip, but it's a different one. I'll send it to you. Give me one second. So this is a lady from Muslim Brotherhood in 1990, casting the vision. That's 35 years.

• 1:52:17Adam Sosnick?

  Did let her speak?

• 1:52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta, you gotta give respect to long-term thinkers.

• 1:52:20Adam Sosnick?

  Who, Ilhan Omar?

• 1:52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, it's the one I just sent you here. No, it's not Ilhan Omar. I just sent it to you, Rob.

• 1:52:25Adam Sosnick?

  Rashida Tlaib?

• 1:52:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is, this is gonna become a real issue very soon, cuz momentum hasn't yet reached, uh, uh, levels of exponential growth, but they're gonna get there. Go ahead, Rob. Play this clip.

• 1:52:40Speaker 21

  We do not want to melt into American society and disappear. We want to go into American society with Islamic ideals and revamp their thinking. We want to revamp them. We want to turn them into Muslim individuals. We shouldn't have feelings of, of a distaste for them, or, or intolerance, because they're potential Muslims. Education is one of the most important areas that Muslims have to address. And while our objective, our final objective, is not just to become part of the system that we experience now and that we see, our objective, our final objective, is to create our own Islamic systems, and not only create Islamic systems for Muslims, but to look at all the

• 1:53:22Speaker 21

  other people who are sharing this country with us, as potential Muslims. And in that long-range process of making America Muslim, all of America Muslim, I can melting pot. We do not want-

• 1:53:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Can pause it right there.

• 1:53:35Adam Sosnick?

  Interesting. So they're, it's almost like they're telling us what they wanna do.

• 1:53:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Their vision is clear.

• 1:53:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, oh.

• 1:53:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Their vision is clear on what they're coming-

• 1:53:42Adam Sosnick?

  Do you believe him now?

• 1:53:43Speaker 04

  Well, think, uh, thirty five, what was it, nineteen ninety, so thirty five, thirty five years later, Mam Dany's gonna try to be the mayor of New York. Good luck.

• 1:53:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Tried to be.

• 1:53:52Speaker 04

  No, he's gonna win. I think he's gonna, like, ninety percent?

• 1:53:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He has got, he's got such a big lead. Is this, uh, what is this about, Rob?

• 1:53:58Speaker 04

  Mark Halpern stating that Mam Dany has about an eighty-five percent-

• 1:54:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, go ahead, Rob.

• 1:54:02Adam Sosnick?

  That's correct.

• 1:54:03Speaker 22

  President Trump calls him Mam Dami the commie. I just wanna ask you, shrewd political guy that you are, can Mam Dami be beaten here in New York?

• 1:54:13Speaker 23

  Not today. There was some opposition research dropped on him, and if there's something that's akin to a silver bullet against a communist, uh, uh, maybe. But barring that, uh, I think he's got an eighty-five percent chance of being his honor, uh, come next year.

• 1:54:27Speaker 22

  Wow. All these, I'm gonna come to Byron on it in a second. All these, um, you know, big shots financiers are creating PACs-

• 1:54:36Speaker 22

  You know, to beat him. But there are some that are sort of sucking up to him also, so it's a two-way street. So, does that matter? I mean, you have the New York Post on a daily basis and other publications on a daily basis. Heaven forbid, even commentators like myself ripping him apart, taking him down. And particularly the law and order issue. So, but you're saying right now, he's the winner, right now. The voter today, Mark Halpern says he's the winner.

• 1:55:04Speaker 23

  Oh, yeah. Larry, you can be really good at making money and really stupid about politics. And I think the fundamental mistake they're making. I've met a donor or two who doesn't know much about politics, but think they do. Maybe you have as well. The problem is they don't have a candidate. Tip O'Neill said, "All politics is local." And people say that's the first rule of politics. It's actually the second. The first rule of politics is you can't beat someone with no one. Mayor Adams, which is where most of our wealthy colleagues and friends are putting their money. Look at the polling, look at the data. These are folks who make money in business, looking at metrics and data.

• 1:55:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You can posit right there. They don't, you know, they don't have a, they don't have a candidate right now to go up against them. Even Chris, who is the Republican candidate. I'd love to talk to every one of these guys. They don't have a real candidate right now. Curtis Silva, yeah. Uh, Sliva.

• 1:55:53Adam Sosnick?

  He's sort of been like an ongoing perpetual Republican candidate.

• 1:55:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but it's a different story today.

• 1:55:57Speaker 04

  Can't trust a beret.

• 1:55:59Adam Sosnick?

  And Anthony, uh...

• 1:56:00Speaker 04

  Can't trust anybody that wears a beret all day and it's red.

• 1:56:02Adam Sosnick?

  Andrew Cuomo said that he's not dropping out of the race, right?

• 1:56:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's going independent.

• 1:56:06Adam Sosnick?

  So, he's like purposely trying to get elected.

• 1:56:09Speaker 04

  Right? I mean, if you think about it, thank you, Adam. Great point. If you're being that guy...

• 1:56:14Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the only way that they're gonna win is if it's a head-to-head race.

• 1:56:16Speaker 04

  Well, that's what I'm saying.

• 1:56:17Adam Sosnick?

  So, now you're gonna basically just cannibalize each other's votes?

• 1:56:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, but what is, like, what is Andrew's goal? Like, what are you trying to do?

• 1:56:23Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know.

• 1:56:23Speaker 04

  Run interference, because all you're gonna do is help the other guy. You're going to help...

• 1:56:27Adam Sosnick?

  Is this a message from him?

• 1:56:28Speaker 08

  Yes, this is the announcement yesterday that he is running as an independent for the New York City mayor race.

• 1:56:34Speaker 24

  Hello, I'm Andrew Cuomo.

• 1:56:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, you can buy it.

• 1:56:37Speaker 24

  And unless you've been living under a rock, you probably know that the Democratic primary did not go the way I had hoped.

• 1:56:44Patrick Bet-David?

  We heard.

• 1:56:44Speaker 24

  To the 440,000 New Yorkers who voted for me, a sincere thank you. Thank you for believing in me, in my agenda, and in my experience. And I am truly sorry that I let you down. But as my grandfather used to say, when you get knocked down, learn the lesson and pick yourself back up and get in the game. And that is what I'm going to do. The fight to save our city isn't over. Only 13% of New Yorkers voted in the June primary. The general election is in November, and I am in it to win it. My opponent, Mr. M'Nani, offers slick slogans, but no real solutions. We need a city with lower rents, safer streets,

• 1:57:27Speaker 24

  where buying your first home is once again possible.

• 1:57:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right now. I'm just, you know, the M'Nani effect is truly motivational, energy. The young guys, you know, that are going after after, you know, to be run. There's nobody like that that they're excited about.

• 1:57:44Speaker 24

  Nope.

• 1:57:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what's a great documentary to watch? I just watched Roger Stone's documentary. Have you seen Roger?

• 1:57:49Adam Sosnick?

  I saw it. Oh, Get Me Roger Stone?

• 1:57:51Patrick Bet-David?

  First time I had him on, I watched it, but I watched it again. I think for anybody that has interest in politics, they should watch his documentary. It is such an insightful documentary.

• 1:58:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:01Patrick Bet-David?

  I watched it many, many years ago.

• 1:58:03Adam Sosnick?

  I watched it twice.

• 1:58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  First time I had him, yeah. If you watch it, it gives you insight in the political game as a sport, what it's like. And there's so many lessons in there about the rules, different rules, different talents, different individuals. Nothing you see, everything that he talks about, the people have on the M'Nani side on the opposite side.

• 1:58:22Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, I had Adams here. And I'm talking to him, and I'm like, OK, a little bit more, can you give me some? It's like, give me some. It was just a lot of, you can tell the answers were the same answers he's given hundreds of times. There was nothing about it where I'm like, I'm going to run through the wall for this guy. And you want to see somebody else do it, but unfortunately, it looks like New York is going in this direction.

• 1:58:40Adam Sosnick?

  So neither Adams nor Andrew Cuomo are getting the ground soul support from the people?

• 1:58:46Patrick Bet-David?

  No, listen, let me tell you.

• 1:58:48Adam Sosnick?

  Personality matters.

• 1:58:50Patrick Bet-David?

  PHP. Insurance, right? There's a difference in a person that builds.

• 1:58:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, like a corporate executive, I'll never forget one time, uh, we have a meeting and my five new executives that I hired, all C-suite, they all came in and they found out how much my insurance guys were making. And I don't know if you remember this meeting or not, they're like, hey, are we really paying that guy 1.5 million a year? Are we really paying that person 800, and they're all making between 2 to 300,000 dollars, 2 to 400,000 dollars.

• 1:59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, yes. Well, I mean, listen, you know, the stuff that we do and pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, and I think this and I think, oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, alright. So you think you guys should deserve to get paid? Well, I mean, maybe not as much, but I mean, look at the stuff that we do and that I said, oh, no problem. I said, let me ask you, what time do you come into the office? 8 a.m. When do you typically leave? If I was to go up and look and see what time you leave? 6 o'clock? So you work 8 to 6? Yeah. Alright, uh, what time were you here Saturday? We don't work on Saturdays. What time were you at the office on Sunday? What time were you in the office last Sat- when's the last time you were in on a Saturday? We don't come Saturday, we work Monday, oh, okay. Let me call a few guys and I started calling a bunch of my guys. I said, what appointments do you have tonight? What's your last appointment tonight? 10 o'clock at night?

• 2:00:07Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what was your first appointment today? 8 a.m. What's your schedule look like on Saturday? Uh, 8 o'clock, I start at the office training till 12 and a half appointments all night till 8 o'clock. What are you doing on Sunday? I got two conference calls, I got two client appointments. Busy. I said, okay, how about next week? Walk me, I said, Pat, is everything okay? I said, no, no, you're good, trust me. I'm trying to tell the executives, you're on speaker, what your sales schedule look like. Then I called the next guy and the next guy said, you guys want to make 1.2 million? Go run the schedule if you want. What's the point here? Cuomo, if he wants to win, he's running like a corporate executive. And Mamdani is running like a guy that's going and winning votes. You ain't gonna beat him. Now, none of these guys are gonna beat him if they don't run like that.

• 2:00:48Patrick Bet-David?

  To win an election at the mayoral level, you gotta work like a frickin' psycho. Day to day, shaking hands, how you doing? Coffee shop. The magic at this level is to be seen at 50 different locations at the same time. You know when was the first time, Tom, you and I were on the phone till 3:30 in the morning? When Trump won 2016? That's right. One time when you're like, Pat, did you see what New York Times just said? Did you see what New York Times just said? Did you see this? Pat, I think it's hap- I think it's happening. We're on the car, like, what the fuck? Did this just really? You're looking at Trump's face. He can't believe he won.

• 2:01:19Speaker 15

  Yeah.

• 2:01:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He's on stage, he's like, I thought I was eighty percent down today. Hillary was supposed to. The look on his face on stage is the best look on his face. Because he himself didn't think he was gonna be the president. Boom, he's the president, she's conceding. Everyone's crying, it's game over. But there was a moment when I said, this guy's gonna, this guy's got a chance of killing Hillary. You know when it was? It was when I saw Trump was doing six rallies in a day, and Hillary was doing one every three days. And I watched the way Trump campaigned. I said, good luck beating that guy. Go ahead, campaign like him. Kamala, you can't campaign like him. Hillary, you can't campaign like him. Biden, you can't campaign. The only way Biden beat Trump in 2020 is because Pfizer waited three days after Biden went to announce that the vaccine was ready,

• 2:02:05Patrick Bet-David?

  that the Warp Speed Project that Trump had in place. Whether you're pro or not, I've never taken a vaccine. The COVID vaccine, I never took it myself, my wife didn't, our kids didn't. But that was a big thing that was going on, that the left got the victory, that they got it done. Now Trump, it could, so many different things could have changed when he lost in 2020. And I know I'm not gonna go through the whole conversation. If you wanna win it, Cuomo, Adams, whoever, you, you gotta campaign like your life depends on it. You're not campaigning like that. Videos are not gonna win elections right now. You gotta be seen like you're at fifty different places. Mayor of New York City, let's see who's gonna outwork the other guy. The guy's thirty-three years old, hungry as F, going lights out, with a terrible idea, but a terrible idea,

• 2:02:50Patrick Bet-David?

  driven a hundred hours a week, non-stop, twenty-four seven, relentless, is gonna destroy you. I had a call with a person, a very powerful person at, at the DOD,

• 2:03:01Patrick Bet-David?

  last week, while in the Ham- we're in the Hamptons. I stepped in, I had this call.

• 2:03:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And we're talking about Reza Pahlavi. Okay, and you know, the, the, the individual that is trying to bring, you know, certain things to Iran.

• 2:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And he said, "This is not a job for somebody that has a 3 o'clock appointment to golf every day and a 4 o'clock appointment to play chess with the kids and a 5 o'clock appointment." No, no. This is a job of somebody that has to be 24/7 full-time. This is not for everybody. You ever watch Trump's schedule and ask yourself, "Do you work like that?" The average person, if you watch Trump's schedule, "Do you work like that? Can you work like that? Do you drive like that? 24/7 cameras are on you and he shows up in a suit every single time? How often do you wear a suit? The average person listening to this, "How often do you wear a suit? How long does it take you to wear a suit? How long does it take you to put on the tie? How long does it take you to put on the cufflinks? How long does it take you?"

• 2:04:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine, how often do you like to be under limelight pressure? This morning, I'm talking to my trainer. He's training a baseball player who was supposed to be a phenom. Came into the major leagues, the first 20 games he hit 400. Everybody thought this was gonna be the next big star. He trains here in our building. Nice guy, very good guy, you would know who the name is. But the moment he went through a slump, the internet attacked him non-stop on Twitter. And that attack in the comments section on Twitter messed with his head that he got out of baseball. This guy was supposed to make a few hundred million dollars. Got out of baseball. Now, you wanna go into game? Cuomo's got the right pedigree that he knows what it is to get attacked. But if you wanna win, you gotta get to work. I don't think anybody in New York is gonna be working like Mamdani.

• 2:04:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Mamdani is working like his life depends on it. I think everybody else is working like they deserve to be in there.

• 2:04:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, cuz he doesn't have another job, he doesn't have anything else to do.

• 2:04:51Patrick Bet-David?

  But you have to realize, when you work like, like your life depends on it, that is a formidable opponent. Everybody else is working like their resume deserves them to be in there. Life doesn't give you the job and the dream that you want based on your resume.

• 2:05:05Speaker 04

  Did you see that clip of, I know, did you see it? Kevin O'Leary talking about Steve Jobs is hustling the work.

• 2:05:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course, signal and noise and all that stuff.

• 2:05:13Speaker 04

  How crazy, he was like, "The 18 hours, the thing that I sent it to..." We don't have to see it.

• 2:05:17Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I've seen it. It's a great clip. But the point is, they gotta work like that. You don't wanna work like that? Like, you know, you think Rogan got up there by luck? You think Trump got up there by luck?

• 2:05:27Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 2:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Michael got up there by luck? You think, you think DeSantis, who's a governor of Florida, coming up, you think he got there by luck? Of course, you know, we know the controversy with he and I. You think he got there by luck? You think Megyn Kelly got there by luck? You think Tucker got there by luck? You think Rock got there by luck? You go to any one of these guys.

• 2:05:46Adam Sosnick?

  Work.

• 2:05:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, there's a phase of your life where you're working literally like a slave for a couple decades. And if you want to do it again, you gotta do it again now. I just don't see anybody in New York that's gonna be willing to work that hard. I, I don't. I hope I'm wrong. So, most likely, New York, that guy's gonna get elected. And guess what's most likely gonna happen? You, you think?

• 2:06:09Adam Sosnick?

  Mass exodus to Florida?

• 2:06:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, bro. But people are like, well, Florida's gonna be flatlining and all this other stuff. Here's the best way to judge Florida. If you believe New York is gonna change policies anytime soon, don't invest into Florida. Bless you. If you think New York's policies gonna continue being shittier, guess what? Florida's still got plenty of room to, to improve and grow as a, as a economy and as a market. I'm gonna go to the next story here, the one about the shooters that we haven't gone into. You know which one I'm talking about? Secret Service officials were aware of classified threat 10 days before the Butler assassination attempt, failed to tell agents guarding Trump. Rob, I think you got a clip on this one as well. The Government Accountability Office, GAO, report revealed that the senior level

• 2:06:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Secret Service officials failed to share classified threat information with agents protecting President Trump on July 13, 2024, Butler, Pennsylvania rally where an assassination attempt occurred. Go ahead and play this video clip. Go for it, Rob.

• 2:07:05Speaker 25

  This type of negligence, in my opinion, is not accidental. It's intentional. As you know, I am actually the chairman of the Declassification of Federal Secrets, and I've investigated one of the most famous assassinations in U.S. history. That's a JFK assassination. And in my opinion, the way that this was handled, not to mention, if you recall, I was actually able to directly interview the Secret Service director when she testified to Congress. And we had whistleblowers that came forward to Senator Hawley's office and stated that Secret Service never even met with local law enforcement. That angle in which the president was shot from was actually left, in my opinion, open. And this reeks of an inside job. You know, I'm gonna say it. I will tell you that they had plans for him to be dead, but God had other plans. And President Trump is blessed because of it.

• 2:07:49Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, if she gets to the bottom of this and finds out what's going on. Some of the people may want to be pushing her to also give another project to her to get to the bottom of it. It's a different project that people are curious about. Vinny, your thoughts on this here? Because apparently they suspended six agents over handling of Butler shooting, but they're still going through it. So what are your thoughts on the story?

• 2:08:09Speaker 04

  Suspended six agents, and it's like, another thing that bothers me is that, the first thing was that Trump is giving the thumbs up to move on, and he's happy basically of how the investigation went up to this point. I don't know, Rob, they had something on the president, it's kind of like, "Yeah, I'm good, we can move on." And then you mentioned this at the beginning of the podcast, out of the 92 Rileys that Donald Trump had done, 92, guys, the one time CNN was streaming live, was that one, okay? And please, please save the coincidence, "Yeah, they were just there, he was gonna make an announcement." No, no, no. With that being done by CNN, and apparently

• 2:08:49Speaker 04

  there was photographers there that had these cameras with lenses that really slowed down, which is not good for a live event, to catch, and by the way, there was one shot where you actually see the bullet stopped in midair, piling that lead up with the failure, the failure, and the only thing that happened was what? Kim Cheadle. Once the left realized, "Oh shit, sorry for my language, Joe Biden is not the guy, he's horrible, he's failing," the order was given. My question is, Pat, to all of you guys, who gives that type of order? Who gives the order to the head of the Secret Service that says, "All right, guys, listen up, by the way, this is all, I'm all, I'm just saying if," they said in a meeting, "Guys, you know what?

• 2:09:33Speaker 04

  Biden's freaking failing horribly, Donald Trump looks like he's gonna win, he's gonna do all this, he's gonna investigate, we got, let's take his ass out, okay?" Then the phone call's made, and they go, "Okay, Secret Service, Kim Cheadle, everybody, step down, have them looking the other way." By the way, he was flying a freaking drone, nobody gave a shit, and when people were screaming, guy on the roof, everybody turned, and nobody gave a damn. He was on the roof in the building where Secret Service was inside. Massive failure.

• 2:10:04Speaker 04

  Thank God, you know, only the ear was hit. Now there's reports that there was allegedly a second shooter, which that's what I believe. I believe Thomas Cooks was put up there like the idiot, call it MKUltra, call it whatever the hell you want. And there was another shooter that was on top of the freaking water tower. Cause there's no way, it doesn't make sense. This guy had six cell phones. The father, they interviewed the father, they're all, they're all being protected. They, they cleaned his house with the freaking like a, like a white glove service. Nothing adds up and I'm just curious, who would, who gives the order that says, Steph, Kim, Cheadle, all you guys? Put the worst agents on here. Nobody's gonna get in trouble. He's gonna be dead. President Biden is gonna be president. We're gonna move on.

• 2:10:44Patrick Bet-David?

  We know for a fact it's not Biden.

• 2:10:47Speaker 04

  Thank you. A thousand percent.

• 2:10:49Patrick Bet-David?

  We know for a fact it's not Biden.

• 2:10:50Speaker 04

  It's not him.

• 2:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  If Biden didn't do all those pardons.

• 2:10:53Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And others use the auto pen to do it. We know for a fact Biden wasn't, uh, uh, responsive enough to be behind that issue.

• 2:11:00Speaker 04

  I, that's great, great point. It's definitely not Biden. So what, because this is what I feel, Vincent O'Shaughnessy feels, and I'm pretty sure some of our viewers do too. The, the, the, the decision was made. We have to take him out. He's going to win, period. You saw Joe Biden, uh, didn't know what the hell he was doing. What we have to do, I'm just so curious of who makes that call? Who makes that call?

• 2:11:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, when you, when you go back to the Kennedy assassination and, um, you, you can, you can step past all the speculation. And you just look at how the secret service agents behave when the cars turn.

• 2:11:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:11:32Tom Ellsworth?

  There was one agent, one, who called two guys off the back of a car. Drop back and the other two agents raise their arms like, why?

• 2:11:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:11:41Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, what are you doing here? And so we, we can see that. We, we see a few other things that happen in the Kennedy assassination. And so you don't have to have the CIA pull the trigger. You know, you don't have to have the Secret Service pull the trigger. You can have the CIA and others, um, control the Secret Service. Which is what many people believed happened with JFK. So, was there, you know, uh, somewhere, yeah, nothing to see here. No, no, we get threats all the time, man, don't worry about that. We get threats all the time. You know, uh, we're gonna share, share data with the local yokels, and that's what they call them. Local yokels is what they call the local police. And they said, you know, and we'll take care of it.

• 2:12:26Tom Ellsworth?

  And so, I, I wanna see a Warren Commission, not, not chaired by Allen Dulles. Um, I wanna see, I wanna see a Warren-type commission here to look at all of this. To look at the failures to learn. And even if everything else is, is covered up. I want the failures to, um, to be identified so that all presidents, regardless of party, are safe in the future. And, you know, there's so many things here that just, that, that kinda stink. They sanitized the roof and then they hosed it down.

• 2:13:01Speaker 04

  They hosed it down to the crime scene.

• 2:13:03Tom Ellsworth?

  They went to his house and took everything. And you know what echoes in my head is, um, when Ann Coulter talked about Diddy. And she said, "When the police arrive really, really quick and there's a whole lot of police and stuff." I'm paraphrasing, I don't want anybody to think I'm misquoting her. But she said, you know, "When the police are there, sometimes it's what they're taking, not what they're finding."

• 2:13:26Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 2:13:26Tom Ellsworth?

  They're there to remove some things and say, "Yeah, we gotta, we have to do this." It's, uh, it's, um, uh, Pulp Fiction, Harvey Keitel. "The cleaner."

• 2:13:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, the cleaner.

• 2:13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  "Get me the, get me the wolf, we gotta get the cleaner." You know, and I think that's what's going on here. There's so many things in Butler that stink. From the number of shots to, to the, you know, the, "Why don't we know anything about a kid?" "Oh, every kid needs three burner phones and, and to call international."

• 2:13:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, international.

• 2:13:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what are your thoughts on this? I've got one last story I wanna do.

• 2:14:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, uh, one year ago, the Butler shooting, uh, could've changed the course of American history. And thank God it did not. Uh, I remember you guys were in the Hamptons at that time. I think I was traveling. And I remember it was, "Oh my God, you see what's going on here? Oh my God." And that video got replayed over and over and over again. That was the moment, I officially remember this, where I was like, "Man." How can you not vote for this guy at this point? All the, the, the stories about this guy, all he is, he's un-American, he's so sell himself out. He's a Russian asset. That was the moment this guy got shot in the ear and gets up and starts yelling, fight, fight, fight. Ear bleeding. I said, that guy's got ultimate respect for me at this point.

• 2:14:44Adam Sosnick?

  Don't forget, it was about a week earlier that Joe Biden had the biggest debacle on the debate stage ever. It was a week after that that Joe Biden basically reluctantly dropped out of the race. It was a week after that that they basically catapulted Kamala Harris at the top. Meanwhile, Trump was the most badass thing I've ever seen from a politician ever. Even Mark Zuckerberg, who's been a sort of a vocal Trump hater, was like, dude, that was fricking badass. And thank God he made it through because now we're seeing the first six months of quite possibly the greatest administration in our lifetime. We'll see, we'll see what happens here. Uh, I don't know. I'm not in on the conspiracy thing. I'm not in on the second shooter thing. That's not my lane.

• 2:15:26Adam Sosnick?

  I try to live in reality and the reality is this, thank God Donald Trump is alive and doing what he's doing and God bless America.

• 2:15:34Speaker 04

  So you don't, you don't, again, because Adam, there's nothing that you, you believe the government in any case, all the time, no matter what. There's nothing, no, I'm just saying, no, I'm saying you said you don't believe in the conspiracy. But what I'm asking you is, let's go like, do you think that there'd be any way that the government, the sitting government would be like, you know what? We gotta take this president out. Tom just made a point that the JFK assassination, everybody was involved, the CIA was involved.

• 2:15:57Adam Sosnick?

  To answer your question, Vinnie, yes, I could see that.

• 2:16:01Speaker 04

  You can see why?

• 2:16:01Adam Sosnick?

  I could see nefarious people doing nefarious things behind closed doors.

• 2:16:07Speaker 04

  So it's not, it's not a, it's not a theory.

• 2:16:08Adam Sosnick?

  But it doesn't consume my life like it does for other people.

• 2:16:12Speaker 04

  Adam, when a, when a story comes up, you act like people are sitting at home thinking about this shit. We're on a podcast, we talk about it and average Americans live their life. But when something comes up, we address it. You automatically think I'm thinking about this shit all the time. He brought it up, it's a story. No, it's not. When's the last time I even talked, talked about the assassination? He just brought it up.

• 2:16:31Adam Sosnick?

  You're too busy living in Epstein land. I get it. Talking about this story, I'm saying the the real politic, the pragmatic view is, thank God he didn't get shot in the face. Thank God there was that beautiful chart.

• 2:16:41Speaker 04

  Thank God he made it, but my thing is, who was behind, who was behind all the shit on the failures?

• 2:16:46Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know, and neither do you.

• 2:16:47Patrick Bet-David?

  One last story.

• 2:16:48Speaker 04

  I want to find out.

• 2:16:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I think what I want is, I also want to know who the hell was behind it. I'm curious.

• 2:16:53Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 2:16:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if this would have gone in a different way, America would have had Biden or Kamala as president today. Imagine America with Kamala or Biden as president today. Holy moly, it would have been a very different America. Last story before we wrap up. News just came out. Gavin Newsom was on a podcast with Sean Ryan. While he's doing a podcast, CNBC releases, which state is the number one economy in America for three years in a row, Rob? If you can post that picture, guess what?

• 2:17:25Speaker 04

  Bingo.

• 2:17:25Patrick Bet-David?

  For the third year in a row, Florida's number one in economy according to CNBC 50 state analysis for 2025. Every day, I'm at the cigar lounge the other day at the boardroom, hanging out with some of the members. One guy comes up and says, look, I won't let you know this. I just moved here because of the top 10 reasons why you moved to Florida. That was one of the reasons my wife. If I tell you 500 people in Florida have stopped and told me they moved here because of that video, or people that are moving here, business owners, that's a small number. Regularly, people bring it up about the fact that they're moving here for how amazing the state is, okay? My concern is, with what just happened in New York, shit could get really crazy here in Florida. I had an Armenian family at the house this weekend.

• 2:18:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Folks I've known for many, many years, you actually know them as well, they were at the house. And I said, just, just want to pre- prepare you for this. There's a city in, in, in Florida that's waiting for all Armenians. And most of the job creator Armenians that have conservative values, not the crazy nutcase Armenians that are on the leftist, LGBTQ, anything goes transgender due to surgery, the city owns your kids, the communist, the, all those guys. No, no, those guys stay in Glendale. Glendale deserves you to stay there. But for all the other people that are job creators, that are sensible family parents, that are. Like dude, this is crazy shit what's going on over here. I want to be able to allow my kids to go outside and play at this

• 2:18:48Patrick Bet-David?

  park on Adams or go play basketball at R D Wyder or John Muir or you know, go to Shaw Canyon and play baseball like a regular kid does. I'm worried about some of the stuff that's going on. There's a city in Florida that's been waiting for you guys. It's called Boca Raton. I'm not the mirror of Boca. I don't live in Boca. I used to live in Boca. Armenians will love Boca, but watch what happened here. Look what they're talking about in the state of Florida and I'm, Tom, I'm gonna come to you. And I'm gonna do one last dig at Lakers and we'll wrap it up. Is that fair with you, Vinny? I love it. I love it. A tale of two Floridas, okay? Real estate industry torn over DeSantis's push to eliminate property taxes. What? This guy's gonna cut property taxes? Are we serious?

• 2:19:32Patrick Bet-David?

  He didn't tell me about property. Rob. We're talking about taxes? We're talking about taxes, property taxes. We're talking about taxes? Property taxes. Not a game. No, no. Not an income. Property taxes. Not a game. Play, play this property tax, DeSantis video. What is going on? And I'm gonna read this article. Go for it, Rob.

• 2:19:47Speaker 26

  ...to higher taxes such as higher property taxes to pay for these spending habits. And you know, these property taxes, it's like you, you buy a home, you buy land. You know, maybe you buy the home outright, but maybe you pay off a mortgage over 30 years. And then, okay, you've paid off the mortgage, you bought the land, you've been taxed many times. It's like, is it your property or not? Just for being on your property, you gotta write a check to the government every year? So you're basically paying rent to the government to live on your own property and our homestead exemption is not strong enough to help these folks because the property gets assessed so high.

• 2:20:28Speaker 26

  And that's the thing, if you buy a home for $300,000 and you know there's certain tax. Well then what? 10 years later, they say it's worth 700,000 and so and then they say, you know, there's homestead stuff that helps protect you to a certain extent, but you're paying more. And a lot of people can't afford that. So I think that that's a big issue and I know we're gonna be really looking at ways to bring people relief from that. Because I think it's been really something that's pinching a lot of homeowners, particularly seniors on fixed income. But the reality is, is people have seen, and this is not the state, we don't control this, you know, we've not allowed any of that stuff to happen, we've been cutting taxes, but people have seen their property tax, property tax liability go up over these last

• 2:21:11Speaker 26

  years because the property is being assessed higher and higher. And the reality is, is you don't really know how much your home is worth until someone offers you money and is willing to pull the trigger on a sale. That's how a market works. You can say it's worth this much, but if no one's, no one's willing to come and offer you that much, then why should you pay taxes on that amount? And so there's a lot of things that need to be done with that.

• 2:21:34Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a little too much logic there, and I love it, okay? It's a little too much logic there, and I love it. He's making a very good point. You paid off the house. Why are you still paying for it? Like, is this a land lease, or do I own this damn place, right? So it's a very good point. However, the Florida Policy Institute reports that property tax generates $55 billion annually, accounting for 18% of the county's revenue, 17% of municipal revenue, and up to 60% of public education funds. With Bud Husky, President, CEO, Premier, Sotheby's International Realty stating, "When you look at the amount of revenue that is collected in property tax within the state and the implications, if the math is wrong on any of this, especially in the absence of clarity as to alternative funding, to suggest that an investment of $1 million,

• 2:22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  which is pittance compared to what we are looking at shifting in terms of revenue, it makes no financial or business sense." So Tom, great idea, noble idea, of course residents will love it. Do you think it's gonna get done, and do you think it's the right move to make?

• 2:22:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's two steps to it. First of all, I believe that Ron DeSantis is thinking right, and what he says is, when people retire, they're on fixed income. And if they bought a place for $300,000, he sold their place in New Jersey, and they bought a place down here, he's like, the $300,000 number, that's the number you pay taxes on. So his first point is, the assessment keeps going up. So if the, if the house is thought to be worth more, then you're expected to pay taxes on it. But he's saying, wait a minute, you don't know what it's worth until you actually have a transaction. Everything else is just speculation. And things go up and down. So the first thing he's saying, hey, let's get the $1,000 rebate check.

• 2:23:15Tom Ellsworth?

  And homestead discounts. Number one, that's a good thing. Number two, let's freeze property values after you buy it. So, an older person on fixed income bought a place for 300,000. They know what the tax rate is on it. That's what they pay. The other side of it is, uh, people in Florida, the Democrats in Florida are hungry for the money. Absolutely blood thirsty, hungry for the money. And they want the housing market to pick up speed because every time a house is sold, the new higher value is the new tax value. So, when, when home prices are going up and transactions are happening,

• 2:23:58Tom Ellsworth?

  it's really good for Democrat tax business. That's, that's, that's how they, they make it. And it also becomes, you know, a, you know, a challenge for the average person. So, now, what happens if you freeze it all? If you freeze it all, then you end up in a position where you may have to consider increasing sales tax or a VAT, a value-added tax on whatever you buy. Now, the reason that people like me say VAT is fair, because if that guy wants to buy a Lamborghini, he's gonna pay a tax on a Lamborghini, a big tax on it. You're gonna buy a Prius, you pay the tax on it. So, VAT tax is also called consumption tax. You're taxed on what you consume.

• 2:24:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Wanna buy more? You're gonna pay tax on each thing you buy. Don't wanna buy more, wanna live more modest life? Then guess what? The tax is far less. So, I love the idea of the homestead exemption, you're being expanded, and rebate checks for the taxpaying property people. But what would interest me far more would be freezing, you know, uh, the counties. Remember, the counties do the, the property tax, Vinny, did you know that? It's actually the county, not the state. The county you live in and you need to say, hey, what are the property taxes in Broward County specifically? This is up code where I live? Oh, well, uh, you're at 2.1. Well, maybe Palm Beach County bulk is 1.9.

• 2:25:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, I'm not getting those numbers exactly dead on right, but it'll vary a little bit. And so, the county determines it. And so, I, I think that the governor's leadership on this is gonna help affordability for Florida. But you gotta pay for fire trucks and police and roads and streetlights at work somehow. And that's probably if you if you fix the property tax problem. I think you probably need to head the direction of a VAT or a consumption tax. Because you gotta pay for all these things.

• 2:25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Which which hurts and helps who?

• 2:26:01Speaker 04

  Well, I mean.

• 2:26:02Tom Ellsworth?

  A consumption tax? It it basically is fair for everybody because if you buy if you buy more clothes and you buy a bigger car, you pay more more tax, but it's the same percent you pay tax. And if you're on fixed income and you're living very humbly, you don't pay a lot of tax. You pay for food, electricity, your cellphone, you got your house, you know?

• 2:26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  So the money's gonna come flowing from somewhere.

• 2:26:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct.

• 2:26:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Whether it's gonna be from property tax or not, we gotta get the money from somewhere.

• 2:26:32Tom Ellsworth?

  But property tax continuing to reassess and go up does not help retired people in fixed income. And that's one of the points that the governor's making.

• 2:26:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, well, listen, the fact that he's presenting an argument the way that he does in a logical way is the reason why I don't know a lot of people that don't love their governor in the state of Florida. And if they do, they're on the opposite end. But the people that are working, what clip is this, Rob with Newsome? Is he talking about DeSantis?

• 2:27:00Speaker 08

  This is Gavin Newsom talking about President Trump, talking about him masquerading in fate.

• 2:27:06Speaker 04

  And and cusses, he cusses and he says gee damn and tries to apologize twice. He he cusses.

• 2:27:11Speaker 08

  Just to juxtapose the two governors.

• 2:27:13Tom Ellsworth?

  He thinks it makes him look tough. He's being coached. Go ahead.

• 2:27:16Speaker 15

  All that reputational damage that's being done as they're sitting there on horses with American flags, running through soccer fields, scaring kids that are playing soccer in the middle of the day in a summer camp. For what? Just toughness. It's a weakness masquerading as strength. That's what I don't like about this son of a bitch.

• 2:27:32Speaker 04

  Ooh, that's a.

• 2:27:33Speaker 15

  I don't. And forgive me, I know he's the President of the States. Forgive me, I didn't, you know.

• 2:27:37Speaker 04

  Right?

• 2:27:37Speaker 15

  Yeah, he calls me new scum, you know, come on.

• 2:27:40Speaker 04

  Because you are.

• 2:27:41Speaker 15

  I mean, how do I explain that to my kid? Now he's got, I have my kids' friends calling my kids new scum. That I get because I was called that in seventh grade, but not by a 79-year-old. Model better goddamn behavior, man.

• 2:27:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this guy, just deeming.

• 2:27:56Speaker 15

  Forgive the goddamn.

• 2:28:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, just a walking, talking contradiction.

• 2:28:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, he's doing good with the conservative faith vote there.

• 2:28:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody would call you new scum if you were a scumbag. No, but that's not the. No, I'm just saying. But I just want to tell you also, I understand what he's saying. Okay, I get it. That to, to say things like new scum and stuff like that. It's, it's. It's probably not. The right approach, but guess who it is? It's Trump. That's who it is. That's your opponent. So you're not going to change your opponent. You, you, you either make your opponent just to you or you're, or just your opponent. That's the opponent you're facing. When the Bulls are facing the Knicks in the playoffs. And after game one, they get slaughtered. I think it's 93 or 94. Michael comes out and says, hey, if we thought we were going to come in here and take this thing, it's going to be done. We're out of our minds and it eventually goes to game seven.

• 2:28:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And game seven is when he calls his dad and he says, I asked my dad, what do you think I should do? He says, look, if you lead and they don't follow you, it is what it is. He says, I went in game seven and boom. Took the whole thing and Knicks were supposed to go to the finals. You were in New York when this happened. So. You go against fricking Trump. What are you talking about? Second, he should have never said that this upset him. He should have never said that this upset him because Trump's just going to love it even more. Never. He should have never. Shown. Vulnerability there. Not with Trump. He should have never shown that. Get ready for a summer of pokes. He was going to say new scum more. Now he's going to say it a hundred times more. No, you shape the kid's mindset before you go into politics and say. Here's what it's going to look like. My son has the same name as I do.

• 2:29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think I have to prepare for this guy when he goes to different campuses and schools? Hey, son, your name is Patrick Bedavid. You're screwed. Okay? And you are lucky. You got both. Cause it's going to be both a good thing and a bad thing. You're going to go through it. You better be ready for it. When you go with a, we don't have a last name like Jones. Or a traditional last name like Marty Rosian. Or a common last name as some of these other people. We have a, we have a Bedavid, okay? Uh, uh, uh. It's two of them. Yeah, it's two of them. Bed and David together. Anyways, all right, gang.

• 2:30:08Patrick Bet-David?

  One thing I want to share with you guys, for those of you guys that tag me on Instagram with all the pictures that and all the ways you watch the podcast. Can you do me a favor? Take a picture right now exactly how you're watching a podcast. I'm actually curious. Go on X, post it, tag us, put the hashtag PBD Podcast. I want to know how you watch the podcast. And if you have future looks bright gear, put it on. I just want to know how you watch the podcast. Do you watch it on TV? Do you watch it on phone? Do you watch it on a computer screen? Do you watch it on an iPad? Do you use a bad phone, an Android phone? I mean, would you use a VPN in Iran underground? Are you guys like in the underground, like watching it in a, you know, in a bunker? Where do you watch a podcast? How do you watch it?

• 2:30:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Tag us, put it on X. I'm actually curious, I may retweet a couple of them. We wonder how you guys watch the podcast. And if you enjoyed the podcast, press subscribe as well. I want to get this thing to 10 million subscribers. And again, appreciate all of you guys for joining us, Rob. I think tomorrow, what do we have? Oh, you know who's going to come on the podcast today? Somebody very interesting. I can't tell his name, don't say it. We got somebody very interesting on the podcast today. And, but who's going out tomorrow? Do we have a?

• 2:31:16Speaker 08

  No, that'll go out Friday, Thursday, we're back home team.

• 2:31:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Thursday.

• 2:31:19Speaker 04

  Are you doing anything Lakers? You said you were going to crap on them.

• 2:31:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I forgot about the Lakers.

• 2:31:22Speaker 04

  Are you going to do it?

• 2:31:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Nah.

• 2:31:23Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 2:31:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, look, Luka Doncic finds out that the Lakers are for sale before LeBron. And the Lakers are thinking about trading LeBron to somebody else. I think LeBron is right now shopping different options, going back to Miami, going to the Mavs, going to the Cavs. There's a couple of other places that maybe he goes to Golden State Warriors. They're actually openly entertaining a trade for him to go somewhere.

• 2:31:46Speaker 04

  So you might be watching Lakers again.

• 2:31:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I have not from, can you tell me the day the Lakers signed LeBron James? What is the day?

• 2:31:53Speaker 04

  That's when you literally stopped.

• 2:31:55Patrick Bet-David?

  The Lakers signed LeBron James. What is that day? Okay, can you find the day? 2017, 2018? What's the day? The day?

• 2:32:06Speaker 04

  Really?

• 2:32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  July 8th is the last time I rooted for the Lakers.

• 2:32:10Adam Sosnick?

  Happy anniversary, this was almost seven years ago.

• 2:32:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I have not rooted for the Lakers since the day before LeBron went to the Lakers. I've not worn a Lakers jersey. And if I have, it was because I was walking my dogs and it had nothing else close to me. But the day he leaves, you're gonna see me wearing the Lakers gear again.

• 2:32:28Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 2:32:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And sporting gear again.

• 2:32:29Adam Sosnick?

  That was the day I became a huge Lakers fan.

• 2:32:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, because you're a LeBron fan.

• 2:32:33Adam Sosnick?

  I'm a Heat fan. Everybody knows I'm a Heat fan.

• 2:32:35Patrick Bet-David?

  God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:32:37Adam Sosnick?

  Bye.