Hosted by Ashley Hesseltine and Rayna Greenberg
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This episode explores the modern trend of Gen Z women skipping casual relationships and demanding absolute certainty on first dates, specifically analyzing an article from The Cut about "entry-level" or starter boyfriends. The hosts discuss how past generations learned crucial relationship skills, conflict resolution, and self-awareness through low-stakes partnerships without expecting every casual date to end in marriage. They also share personal moving disasters and logistical nightmares from the past month, emphasizing how the support of friends and small moments of lightness helped them survive an overwhelming period.
The hosts greet listeners, recap recent episodes, and mention their upcoming New York appearance.
The episode includes sponsored messages about clothing, furniture, and hair supplements, interwoven with host banter.
A power outage and a major moving company cancellation create a nightmare scenario for the hosts.
They discuss how each other’s advice and external help helped them navigate the moving crisis.
The hosts reflect on the emotional and logistical lessons learned from the chaotic move.
They finally secure a reliable mover, power returns, and they settle into their new house for the night.
The hosts dive into a discussion about modern dating attitudes, especially the trend of not seeking marriage material early on.
The hosts discuss how past relationships help them understand themselves and grow.
They argue that dating in your twenties should be exploratory, not marriage‑focused.
They critique TV shows that push people into engagement without experience.
A segment promoting the Story Worth service and its benefits for preserving family memories.
A brief commercial for Skims loungewear and pajamas.
Moving Day Disastersstory
The guest recounts a horrific moving day experience where Con Ed accidentally shut off her power and a major moving company cancelled her move at the last minute.
The Case For Starter Boyfriendsinsight
The hosts discuss a viral article arguing that Gen Z women are missing out on learning how to be in a relationship by refusing to date anyone who isn't immediate husband material.
Discovering Personal Flawsinsight
The host explains how romantic relationships bring out specific insecurities and conflict styles, like stonewalling, that never surface with friends or business partners.
Suggested Age For Marriageinsight
The guest suggests that people should not legally be allowed to get married before age 27 because they are too young and have not yet experienced their Saturn return.
Challenging Young Womenstrategy
The hosts quote the article's challenge to young women: call him your boyfriend, commit to getting to know him, and learn what it takes to build a real relationship.
Dating Across Political Linesstory
The guest shares a funny anecdote about sleeping with a 23-year-old shortly before meeting her husband, only to end up fighting about gun control and Fox News in the bedroom.
“I was like, I have just like shouldered this by myself for so long. I've been so stressed about it.”
“I was like, I can't believe what I have been able to accomplish over these last two days.”
“I think about my twenties and my early thirties and like, the quote unquote starter relationships that I had where I didn't necessarily see a future with somebody.”
“I have a different, I have no time clock. So I have the freedom to do things that necessarily other people don't.”
“I think those played into her confidence, too.”
“Because I do think there could be a woman, maybe that's like triggered by this.”
Should you date for the resume, not the ring? We are discussing the case for the "entry level boyfriend" ie. dating people for the relationship experience, rather than discarding every person who isn’t marriage material. We’re chatting about the things you can only learn about yourself in relationships, whether “dating with intention” has made people too picky, the myth that breakups are failures, what the legal age of marriage should be, and our own experiences with entry level boyfriends. Before we get into the topic, we’re catching up on Rayna finally selling her house and Ashley’s moving nightmare. Enjoy! Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Storyworth: Get up to $20 off at https://storyworth.com/gge Skims: Shop our favorite loungewear and pajamas at https://skims.com. Article: Get $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more at https//:article.com/gge. Columbia: Get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket at https://columbia.com. Nutrafol: Get $15 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping at https://nutrafol.com with code GGE15. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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