Encounters x298 - Terrifying Stories from Appalachia with Ghosteas and… Grandparents?

Get ready for a night of chills and nervous laughter as Maci and Nadoly of the Ghosteas podcast join us to share their paranormal encounters and dive into some of the creepiest listener stories. Together we unpack haunted tech glitches, Appalachian cryptid encounters, and Nadoly and Maci’s terrifying personal hauntings — including a demon, a mimic and a shadow figure. Stories include: Knocking sounds beneath Maci’s bed that may have been linked to a haunted desk…and a demon. Nadoly’s ongoing experiences with a mimic, and an ominous shadow figure. A chilling camping trip dream that may have been more possession than premonition, complete with real scratches that appeared the next morning. A mysterious night of knocks on a window and glowing yellow eyes peering from the treeline. A family’s generational “rules of the woods” and the terrifying encounters that proved why they exist. Grab your earl grey (or something stronger) and settle in for the full ghost tea. 👻 Find Ghosteas podcast on Spotify or Youtube, and Instagram. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited by Jaimi Ryan and produced by Emma Leventer and Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi, everyone. We're really excited for this episode because we have some very, very special guests.

• 1:51Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm. Spooky women, spooky sisters.

• 1:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Macy and Natalie from Ghosteas Podcast, which we've seen you, we've heard you, you wanted us to do a collab, and so here we are. Here it is. Check out our episode where we have Macy and Natalie. I almost said Nacy.

• 2:08Corinne Vien?

  Oh, their little sister.

• 2:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're like little sister named together.

• 2:11Corinne Vien?

  Corinna.

• 2:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Once again, their their middle sister's left out. Sorry to your middle sister.

• 2:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 2:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's been our middle sister. Who never gets a word. Never gets to get a word in. That's why he has to haunt all of you. But anyway, we have Macy and Natalie from Ghosteas on the podcast. And then we, Corin and I, are on the Ghosteas podcast as well. So go check out both episodes and we hope you enjoy this one, which is full of Appalachia, demons and grandparents. Enjoy.

• 3:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi. Welcome Natalie and Macy from Ghosteas.

• 3:09Speaker 03

  Hi. We are so excited.

• 3:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're so excited to have you. We just found out that this is your first ever collab and we couldn't be more excited and honored that you're doing it with us.

• 3:19Speaker 03

  Yes, thank you. And we've had several people in our comments saying that we need to, like, y'all should collab with Two Girls One Ghost. And I was like, okay. It's highly requested on our end. Yes.

• 3:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's great. Ours too. And I feel like our listeners have, have a lot of things in common, but one of them is that they're sick in the head for Appalachia.

• 3:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So we did pick a couple listener stories that take place in the Appalachia region. But before we get into those, we want to hear both of your personal encounters with the other side. What have you experienced? I know I've like seen on your Instagram stories that as Ghosteas podcast, like you have, you have fallen a victim to the haunted podcast experiences that we too have experienced. Give our listeners a little bit. Who are you?

• 4:11Corinne Vien?

  Start from the beginning. Were you born haunted?

• 4:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:15Speaker 04

  I think yours started earlier than mine.

• 4:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:18Speaker 04

  So you can, you can jump on that.

• 4:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, we've been obsessed with paranormal, literally from the beginning. We used to talk about ghosts and guardian angels and anything woo woo with our grandma, like our entire lives. And so that's like a big connection we have together. And it started with tea. We wanted to try new teas together because I'm a big tea drinker and Natalie wasn't so much. So I was like, okay, well, let's, let's have an excuse to get together and drink teas all the time. Let's talk about ghosts.

• 4:43Speaker 04

  And so Ghosteas was born.

• 4:45Speaker 03

  Naturally fell into place, really.

• 4:47Corinne Vien?

  It's also the most like perfect title.

• 4:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:50Corinne Vien?

  Ghosteas.

• 4:52Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 4:52Corinne Vien?

  And it's also, it's like a play on words because it's like a little tease too, like tease into the paranormal.

• 4:57Speaker 04

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 4:58Corinne Vien?

  Or tea from the paranormal, like the ghost gossip.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  We spill all the ghost tea.

• 5:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, Macy came up with that. I fully credit her with that because this was, this whole thing was her idea, basically. And we thought really only our grandma was going to watch it. Like she said, it was never, it was never planned for this many people to be watching. And so when people showed up, we were like, oh, hi.

• 5:19Speaker 03

  Welcome.

• 5:22Corinne Vien?

  We get it. Yeah.

• 5:23Speaker 03

  We have had a few little paranormal experiences with the pod. Sometimes our camera will just stop working for no reason. Not right now. We have a mirror behind our camera, just in case, because we record with our phone. So we can see the reflection to make sure that it keeps going. Because that's happened several times. And then

• 5:39Speaker 04

  Recently with, we did an episode on the Smurl family. They're what the new Conjuring movie is about. And normally we like do the edit and then I'll go back and I'll take clips and, you know, post things like that. It wouldn't open.

• 5:53Speaker 03

  The file just completely won't open.

• 5:55Speaker 04

  Will not open on anything. I reset the computer. I could open everything else. That one specific thing, when we're talking about the demon specifically, was like, it won't open for me anymore. And so I just kind of was like, okay, we're going to leave that there.

• 6:09Speaker 03

  She said, we're just not having any short form content from this episode because I'm not messing with it. It doesn't want to be talked about.

• 6:15Corinne Vien?

  That makes me kind of nervous because we covered the Smurl possession too.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  A year ago.

• 6:19Corinne Vien?

  And that was one of, like every once in a while, I'm sure you guys experienced this too. Every once in a while, there will be an episode which we, we can't predict which ones will kind of like elicit hauntings from listeners. But that was one where our inbox started being flooded by people who were having like, Tech issues or weird haunting, strange noises, animals acting bizarre around them, just like.

• 6:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, because it was also one that when we recorded it, we both had like some weird feelings, but it wasn't anything too bad.

• 6:47Corinne Vien?

  That's wild. So you were able to put out the full episode, but it wasn't allowing you to like pull specific.

• 6:53Speaker 04

  I can't even open it on the computer anymore. And so after trying a bunch of times, I was like, you know what? I'll leave it.

• 6:59Speaker 03

  It just is what it is.

• 7:00Speaker 04

  That's fine.

• 7:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, we were able to export our full video and then it just no more.

• 7:05Corinne Vien?

  You have to listen. You just have to be like, okay, that's what.

• 7:07Speaker 03

  We hear you.

• 7:08Corinne Vien?

  You know, you did as much as you could.

• 7:10Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 7:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Would you say that's your most haunted episode that you guys have done so far?

• 7:14Speaker 04

  For us, I think, but we've had like y'all have people comment like, oh my God, I was watching this and then I heard something call my name or I was watching this and then there was like knocks on my window. Like we get comments like that.

• 7:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, or like the video will just stop playing and they'll start back over for no reason, like won't even be near their phone or touching it and it'll just start back over for no reason or skip around.

• 7:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 7:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, we've had several people, but it it kind of jumps around per episode.

• 7:38Corinne Vien?

  It's so unexplainable. Like I don't, well, I feel conflicted because sometimes I'm like, well, I'm glad sometimes that this stuff is happening because then it's like kind of fun and it adds to the spookiness of being a paranormal podcast. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, it's good press for us in the paranormal world, right? But then on the flip side, I'm like, why is there so much difficulty? Like it's almost like cock blocking our listeners listening to us.

• 8:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then it also makes me think, is it because the people who are listening to our shows are so interested in the paranormal that they're open? And like, is it the ghost from the like the Smaral family possession? Or is it a spirit that's perhaps around our listener that's interfering in their life?

• 8:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 8:20Speaker 03

  I'd like to go with the second option.

• 8:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 8:24Speaker 03

  I prefer a friendly ghost, maybe someone who's also interested in the podcast and like, hey, go back. I want to hear that part again.

• 8:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 8:32Speaker 04

  We're hoping.

• 8:32Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, better than a demon. So do you think your grandma was a witch?

• 8:35Speaker 03

  Oh. No, she's very into angels and like still today, she's like talking to us about getting an angel wing tattoo. And it's just very in tune with just spirits and angels and just loves anything to do with that.

• 8:48Speaker 04

  And she's really into like past lives and stuff like that. So that's kind of more her thing. She's really afraid of like ghosts or demons. She doesn't want to talk about it. But for angels or like things like that, she's always into it. So that's kind of where we started. And then of course, we had our own little paranormal experiences down the road.

• 9:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. What's happened?

• 9:08Speaker 03

  My first experience that I can remember is I was like three years old. I don't even know if Natalie was born yet. And I was laying in, um, in the living room of our house. And I heard footsteps walking through our kitchen and dining room, which was like right across the way from where I was laying. And in my mind, it was around Christmas time. So I was like, Santa's here. Oh, my gosh, I better go to sleep. But later on in life, my mom told me that this house belonged to her grandparents and she had seen her grandfather walking that same path that I heard the footsteps through. And so that's my very first, I'm positive was a paranormal experience.

• 9:41Corinne Vien?

  Well, that's such a sweet one.

• 9:42Speaker 04

  It's a sweet one. What's weird about that?

• 9:44Speaker 03

  I wasn't scared. So I thought it was Santa. It was someone bringing me gifts. So.

• 9:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it's really strange because I don't know if this is creepy or if this is just sad. But every time our mom had a baby, like had one of us, someone in the family would pass right before that. And so it's just very like, very weird.

• 10:03Speaker 03

  Strange connections.

• 10:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, because our middle sister Kayla, she was born right after that grandpa had passed away. And so it's just very, very spooky energy over there.

• 10:14Corinne Vien?

  Do you guys have any connections or like weird similarities to those relatives who passed? Or do you think your family has like a quota and it's like one in, one out?

• 10:23Speaker 03

  I don't know, not that we've been told, but it's possible. I looked a lot like the family of the person who passed. So there's at least a physical connection, but I'm not sure.

• 10:33Speaker 04

  But yeah, I don't know much about those people, but it was just a weird a weird coincidence that every time our mom had a baby, someone had to be like, I'm out.

• 10:43Corinne Vien?

  But only your mom.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  Yes. When Macy first got pregnant, she has two kids. When she first got pregnant, I told her after she had the baby, I was like, I was thinking like, am I next? Like who's

• 10:53Corinne Vien?

  Okay, that's where my mind went. It's like, instead of being super excited for everyone to have, like give birth, you're kind of like, who's gonna die?

• 11:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Practical magic curse where anyone they fall in love with is bound to die. Yeah.

• 11:07Speaker 03

  Well, hopefully it just stays with our mother and

• 11:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 11:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow.

• 11:12Speaker 03

  But you've had a couple of experiences.

• 11:14Speaker 04

  I, yeah, I haven't had as scary as Macy. I think Macy's had a run in with a demon, to be honest, but she can tell you about that.

• 11:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, we need to hear that.

• 11:22Speaker 04

  My first experience that I remember was when I was probably like seven or eight, we went to a basketball camp, Macy, myself and our sister Kayla. And I was in the lower age group, so I had to be by myself and I had went to the bathroom in this high school that they were hosting it in. And I remember just, you know, walking in there, just doing my thing. And I heard footsteps and I was like, hmm, okay, someone's, someone else is coming in the bathroom. That's fine. But then out of nowhere, I got this like rush of just like intense fear, like primal fear. I was like, I'm in danger. And so I got out of the bathroom and I started running. I don't know why I started running and I turned around. And this is the only visual thing I've ever seen. I saw like a black, like misty, shadowy figure thing like

• 12:06Speaker 04

  following me. And in my little eight-year-old mind, I was just like, I'm literally about to die. Like I have to run. And I ended up running into like the boys area where they were doing shirts and skins. So then I was petrified that way.

• 12:21Speaker 04

  And so that was my very first experience and my probably my scariest because I actually saw a visual

• 12:28Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 12:28Speaker 04

  thing.

• 12:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the fact that at eight years old, like your instincts aren't to think, oh my gosh, I'm gonna die. So like when your gut, I mean, we say it all the time, but trust your gut. But when you're got at eight years old is Insinuating that much fear.

• 12:43Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 12:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 12:44Corinne Vien?

  Extreme danger.

• 12:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It does sound like it was something.

• 12:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, we feel the same way. Always trust your gut. If you feel negativity, then don't play around. It's probably negative and you should just do whatever you can to protect yourself.

• 12:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Get out. Yeah.

• 12:57Corinne Vien?

  And I feel like every time I've gone against my intuition, I've regretted it so deeply.

• 13:01Speaker 04

  Yes, with everything, honestly.

• 13:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, not even just paranormal. Yeah.

• 13:06Corinne Vien?

  So you saw like basically this scary misty shadow being.

• 13:09Speaker 04

  Yes, and that's the only time I had ever seen anything. And then we'll hear stories from our listeners. And I'm like, I wonder what that's like. And like, I want to see it. But then I'm like, wait. No, don't. I'm good. I saw my one and that's fine. And we think that our middle sister also, well, we know she saw something, but she's not afraid of like anything. So Macy and I, we grew up being just terrified of our own shadow. And our rooms were connected like on one of the walls. And so we would like have a little knocking system to be like, hey, are you awake? Or like, hey, can I come sleep in your room? And so there was one night where we were just laid up in her room, just chatting, having a good time. And our sister Kayla was in there with us. And she's like, all right, I'm gonna go to bed, like, see y'all later.

• 13:50Speaker 04

  And me and Macy were like, okay, like, we're just gonna hang out. About 20 ish minutes later, Kayla barges in there and she's like, Natalie, stop running by my room. And we said.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  Excuse me?

• 14:02Speaker 04

  What?

• 14:03Speaker 03

  No.

• 14:03Speaker 04

  I was like, I haven't left. I was like, Kayla, stop playing. She's like, Natalie, you're wearing a black shirt. I saw you. You keep running by my room. Stop, I'm trying to go to bed.

• 14:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You have a mimic?

• 14:11Speaker 04

  And me and Macy.

• 14:12Speaker 03

  I turned to her, I said, we've been in here the whole time. I promise. No one has left this room. I don't know who you're talking about. And we were the only kids in the house at the time. And she was like, oh.

• 14:22Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  Okay. And like turned and went back to bed. And me and Natalie sat up all night like, oh no, there's someone here.

• 14:28Speaker 04

  Terrified. And she just said, okay, I'm going back to bed. And that's very much her. So.

• 14:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So is this why she is not on the podcast? Because she's more like, blinders, don't want to talk about it, don't want to think about it, pretend it doesn't exist?

• 14:40Speaker 04

  Basically, yeah. And she also lives an hour away. We live like five minutes from each other. So.

• 14:45Speaker 03

  It's a lot easier. It worked out.

• 14:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 14:48Corinne Vien?

  Now, I feel bad for her because she's the middle sister, right?

• 14:51Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 14:52Corinne Vien?

  And she's not on the podcast. Isn't this like the typical middle sister left out?

• 14:55Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 14:55Corinne Vien?

  Middle sister left out?

• 14:58Speaker 03

  No, well, we invite her and she wants to come on again. So eventually probably.

• 15:03Speaker 04

  Cut that. No, I'm just kidding.

• 15:07Corinne Vien?

  Okay, this knocking thing is so cute that you guys had this sort of code, but where I was thinking the story was gonna go.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, looking back.

• 15:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I was like, that is just like the classic, like beginnings of a horror movie where it's like the kids are knocking and you're getting knocks back.

• 15:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What happened is pretty similar. Like there was a mimic.

• 15:26Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, something that looked enough like you.

• 15:28Speaker 04

  Oh, that just gave me a chill.

• 15:29Speaker 03

  I've thought about it before, but I don't like to go there very often because I get scared. Like what if sometimes she was knocking at me, it wasn't her.

• 15:36Speaker 04

  I can't think about it. I can't.

• 15:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Seeing that iteration of you only happened once, right? Like your sister didn't see.

• 15:43Speaker 04

  As far as we know, she wouldn't be one to get freaked out and tell us. So.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  But there have been a lot of weird things that happened, particularly in that house that we grew up in. Like even our dad, who isn't super big into this, has had his experience where he's heard things like whispering in his ear at night. And like one time Natalie was sleeping in my bed and she was whispering at me in the middle of the night and I like shined my light on her face and she completely stopped whispering, closed her mouth, closed her eyes because she, her eyes were wide open staring at me. She closed her eyes and just went to sleep. And a lot of weird things.

• 16:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is it fair to say that Natalie, you're the creepier one?

• 16:19Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 16:20Speaker 04

  You know what? She's probably had more experiences, but I've had maybe the scariest ones. Yes, I've probably had more little things because I, on one of our earlier episodes was like, oh yeah, Macy, you know, when you're just like kind of sitting there and you hear someone whisper your name? And she was like, what do you mean? I was like, no, like that's a normal thing, isn't it? Like you just hear someone say like, Natalie. And she was like, no, that is not.

• 16:46Speaker 04

  I was fully under the impression that that was just kind of like an auditory thing that everybody heard, but.

• 16:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So how often does that happen to you?

• 16:53Speaker 04

  It hasn't happened in recent years, and I think if it happened now, I'd probably throw up. But it happened a lot when I was younger and I just like, for some reason, I told myself like, oh, that's just something that happens. I don't know, just everybody hears that once in a while, so.

• 17:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, well now, Macy, we need to hear the time you saw a demon.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Okay, well, I don't think I saw it, not in person, anyway. So it started in that house and I have a few theories about the its origin, but I can, I can save those for the end. But it started in that house. I started having really bad dreams and it was the same dream over and over again, where I would be touring this castle and I'd go down in the basement and the further I walked, the more like ruinous it became. It was just like crumbling at its edges and it, it led into a forest. And I found this little girl in the forest, but she was kind of like, had an aura of blue and she looked really scared. And so I was trying to help her and I was like, do you need help? What's wrong? What's wrong? And she would look at me, gasp and disappear right in front of me. So I was like, okay, I have to find this girl. I don't know, I don't know what's wrong with her, but she needs help.

• 17:56Speaker 03

  So it happened a few more times where she would, I would find her and she would disappear in front of me. And then finally, at the end of my dream, I found her and I was like, do you need help? Tell me what's wrong. And instead of looking at me, she like looked up into the trees and like got this immense fear on her face. And so I followed her gaze and saw this creature. It was like bird-like, but I, I can't even describe it. It was very scary, but it had a red aura around it and it snapped its head to me and screamed this high pitched scream. And I woke up still hearing the scream, my whole body like tingling, just, just chills and I couldn't move. It, it was horrifying and it happened several times to where it's the point where I told my dad, I'm scared of my room.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  I don't, like at night, I feel like there's something in there with me and I don't know what to do. I can't go anywhere. So he brought like a Jesus statue and a crucifix and everything into my room just to, so I could feel some sort of protection. And that helped a little bit and I pray a lot. So like, that's kind of what I go to when I'm feeling scared. And so it helped a little bit, but I still had this feeling like in the back of my mind that something wasn't right. That was my freshman year of college and my sophomore year of college, I moved out into a fully furnished apartment. So I didn't bring any of my things except for my clothes and, you know, a few little personal items. And it stopped. I didn't have any dreams anymore. I didn't have these feelings anymore at all. Like I didn't feel haunted in any way. And then the next year I moved into another house, but I brought all of my furniture from my

• 19:21Speaker 03

  old room into that house. And almost immediately upon moving into that house, I started having bad dreams again. And it wasn't the same dream, but it was still, it was scary and it felt like something was watching me in my dream. And I never saw anything, but I just kept waking up with this overwhelming feeling that something wasn't right and I wasn't alone. Well, one night, my boyfriend, who he actually ended up moving into that house, but he was staying in my room with me when I fell asleep. I woke up to three knocks under my bed. It was just like, under my bed and it woke me up. And I was like, Jake, leave me alone. I'm trying to go to sleep. And I just rolled back over and then it happened again, just underneath my bed. So I thought he was pulling

• 20:03Speaker 03

  a prank on me. And I sat up and I looked around and I didn't see him. And I was like, I know that's you. Please leave me alone. I'm really tired. I gotta go to sleep. And I laid back down. I started falling asleep again and then it happened again, but it was like really intense this time, just like, oh, really hard. And so finally I jumped up and I was like, please stop it. You're scaring me. And I bent down over the bed, thinking he was hiding under there for some reason. He's never done anything that mean to me before, but I was like, I don't know. I'm like half asleep. I looked down and there's no one or nothing under there. So I sit back up and I'm like, maybe I just can't see because it's dark. So I called him to try to like get this gotcha moment like, ha, I know it's you. And he answers, but he's outside and I'm all by myself in my room. And so I start crying and I'm like, you have to come in, please. Oh, my gosh, I don't know what's going

• 20:47Speaker 03

  on. And I jumped up and I'm like, looking for all of my religious, like paraphernalia, anything possible for protection. And I'm like praying and he thinks I'm crazy. It was a whole ordeal, but I, it was very scary. Well, eventually like I was talking to my grandma about it and we prayed a lot and it stopped, but I still had this feeling like in the back of my mind, you know, that like it's there, it's in the periphery, like, it's not left me, but I just ignored it and went about, went on about my life. Well, it was about, I think, two years later and I was moving out of that house because I had graduated college and I started having those dreams again after I had started moving my things. In these dreams, I could finally see it, but it was getting closer to me and it was like right behind me most, most times. So I'd wake up.

• 21:31Speaker 03

  Did it look the same like it had in that first dream? No, it, it looked different every time. It was like a different monster, but I could tell, like, you know, how when you dream and you see someone and they don't look like them, but you know it's them? Yeah. It was like that. It had the same energy. It had the same feeling behind it, but it looked different every time. And the final dream that I had, I remember I turned around, it looked kind of like the nun, like the Conjuring movie, I think. Yes. It, it kind of looked like that, but more distorted. And that was the last dream I remember having of it and it was right behind me. Like I turned around and it was like in my face. And I like screamed no, and I woke up the day after. I went back to gather the last of my things and I moved a pile of notebooks that had been on this desk probably since I graduated. So it'd been months.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  When I moved that pile of notebooks, there was an upside down cross like carved into the desk. And I thought someone was playing a prank on me. I don't, that's where my mind goes immediately. This is horrifying. I have a picture of it still because after I talked to everyone who's ever been in my room and they said, no, I'd never do that. I took a picture because I was like, there, there's, I have to remember this. There's no way. Like I'm, I'm seeing this right. And it was horrifying and I talked to my grandma and she like helped me do some protection things and it hasn't happened again. How did you not get rid of like every piece of furniture that was in that room? I did get rid of the desk. I told my, I called my grandma and my mom and I'm like, this desk, because that's where I got it from. They, and I don't even know where they got it from. They thrifted it a long time ago.

• 23:00Speaker 03

  And, um, so I said, you, we're like, I'm burning this. I don't know what else to do. We need to take it and we need to have a bonfire and I don't know. Say goodbye. Good riddance. Yes. And they're like, okay, well, we'll come get it. My grandma took it and she just sanded it down and I don't know where it's at now. She's. Oh, she gave it a new stain and thought that that was fine? Yeah. And this is a different grandma. This isn't our, our Mimi.

• 23:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 23:24Speaker 03

  But yeah, she was like, ah, we'll get rid of this. It'll be fine.

• 23:27Speaker 04

  They don't get rid of things. They don't get rid of stuff. They're gonna keep it. If it's working, they're gonna keep it. So she sanded it down and said, good as new.

• 23:35Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 23:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she hasn't had anything?

• 23:37Speaker 03

  Not that we know of. And it's either with her or with her cousin right now, and neither of them have told us. So maybe, I don't know.

• 23:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Interesting.

• 23:45Corinne Vien?

  You know, this is a totally new approach to how to treat haunted artifacts. Because I feel like sometimes people add stuff or like they'll paint something or like right over a Ouija board. Perhaps we need to bring it back. We have to take it, take things away from it.

• 24:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. Sand it down.

• 24:01Corinne Vien?

  Sand it down.

• 24:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Restain it.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  It worked for them.

• 24:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 24:04Speaker 04

  So far.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  But I told them I never want to see it again. And I haven't had those dreams or those feelings anymore. So my thought is it was attached to the desk somehow and maybe

• 24:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:13Speaker 03

  Right. Just in times of great stress, like I was moving and starting new like chapters of my life. Like maybe it was like, I don't know, brought out more.

• 24:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  But yeah.

• 24:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The knocking under your bed is probably the scariest.

• 24:26Corinne Vien?

  I know. It's so creepy.

• 24:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Especially the way intensified.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  It was horrifying. It was like, no, it's not Jake. It's me. To this day, I still kind of get a little scared at night when I think about it.

• 24:36Speaker 04

  She never told me this because when she moved out, I was still living at home because I was in high school. And if she would have told me that, I would have passed away on the spot. So she didn't tell me. And she told me for the first time while we were recording an episode and I felt betrayed. I was like, all this time, all this time, you've gone in life not telling me this, but

• 24:57Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  I hate this story.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  It was for a good reason.

• 25:00Speaker 04

  I hate it.

• 25:01Corinne Vien?

  I hate to think of what was actually underneath your bed because I know you said you didn't see anything, but it was also dark. And like, thinking, Natalie, when you saw the like kind of dark misty being, like what if something like that was there? What if you were face to face with something, Macy, and you had no clue?

• 25:17Speaker 03

  Well, you just made me convulse.

• 25:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you basically were face to face with it.

• 25:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're almost booping noses. You've already survived it and you haven't experienced it since. So I feel like that's one positive.

• 25:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:30Speaker 03

  Yeah. What's scary is I felt something brush my arm. But all these years I've told myself that maybe it was just a blanket, like my blanket just maybe fell. But I felt something brush my arm down by the ground. And to think that it was actually under there, that gives that a new meaning and makes me sick, honestly.

• 25:46Speaker 04

  I hate that story so much.

• 25:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That was not a blanket. I'm sorry.

• 25:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, no, I'm sick for you too.

• 25:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you know it wasn't a blanket.

• 25:53Speaker 03

  I know.

• 25:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 26:00Corinne Vien?

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• 26:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 27:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like you guys didn't lead into the extremeness of your stories. You guys were like, "Oh yeah, we've had a few experiences." And these are not, these aren't just like, "Oh yeah, I heard a whistle and smelt my grandma." Like, this is, and also you both like start out like, "Oh yeah, we started this podcast to explore more tea." Like, so sweet and innocent, and then, "Oh, but a demon was under my bed."

• 28:05Speaker 04

  See, I didn't know about that. And but I think the reason that it feels so like not exciting, it's it's because we get so many, we do listener stories every Thursday. And we get stories that are like

• 28:19Speaker 03

  Bone chilling.

• 28:19Speaker 04

  I literally, like I said, I would have passed away on the spot. So then I think about mine, I'm like, oh, it was just a little shadow figure. Because some of the stories that we get are like, I can't believe that they happened. And I I believe our listeners. I don't believe all the things online, but I believe our listeners.

• 28:33Corinne Vien?

  Like, how did you survive this?

• 28:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 28:35Corinne Vien?

  I agree.

• 28:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, that's actually a great segue because we have a couple of listener stories where similarly, and and like, I would say Corinne especially has had so many encounters. But then, yes, when we read our listener stories, we're like, oh, no, we're good.

• 28:50Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 28:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And and I don't need to experience anything that they're experiencing. But we're also glad that you experienced it and survived it so that you can tell it to us and we can share it. But

• 29:00Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 29:00Corinne Vien?

  But also, if sometimes if you flip the script on yourself and say, OK, if I wrote this in to my own podcast and like, didn't know it was me, would I think that this is a horrifying experience?

• 29:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the answer is yes. Yes. To both of your encounters. Yeah. OK, just for people who are finding out about Ghosteas for the first time, what episode of listener stories do you think is the scariest for people to go check out?

• 29:20Speaker 03

  Oh, we actually

• 29:21Speaker 04

  Would it be 100?

• 29:22Speaker 03

  Yeah. When we did our 100th episode, we revisited all of our scariest listener stories, the ones that we still think about.

• 29:29Speaker 04

  Yes. And so there's one that someone said they heard a gummy smile. And I think about it almost every day.

• 29:36Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's such a yucky description.

• 29:38Speaker 04

  It's disgusting. It's disgusting. And that's one that has stuck with me. It's not even the scariest one, but that one

• 29:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It just like the description of it.

• 29:45Speaker 04

  Daily.

• 29:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 29:46Speaker 03

  Yes. So definitely episode 100. That's where all of our scariest listener stories lie.

• 29:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Amazing. I'm gonna listen to it.

• 29:52Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 29:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not tonight, but maybe maybe in a like sunny day.

• 29:57Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God, when we first started recording, now we're very lucky that this hits to be both of our full time jobs. But when we first were recording, Sabrina was working a writing job with just like really long hours. I was in grad school and working. And so we would record either super, super early in the morning or super late at night. So it was like always dark.

• 30:16Speaker 04

  That's what we do.

• 30:17Corinne Vien?

  We'd be so scared. And there was for like a good year and a half straight. Every time I had to shower or get ready for bed or like use the bathroom after recording, Sabrina had to stay on the phone with me for like a good 30 minutes and be my

• 30:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Support system.

• 30:31Corinne Vien?

  My support system.

• 30:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, because we record at night most of the time and I have to call someone on the phone while I drive home because I'm so scared. I have to like drive through a wooded area and every time I get through there, I'm like, don't look around, don't look around, don't look around.

• 30:44Corinne Vien?

  Right? Oh, my God. Do you guys have a show that you watch to unwind?

• 30:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Unwind?

• 30:50Speaker 03

  I usually watch Gilmore Girls. That is where I find comfort.

• 30:55Speaker 04

  Um, I'm usually turning on Family Guy.

• 30:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Both, both great choices.

• 31:00Corinne Vien?

  I'm closer to Family Guy. I'm a Bob's Burgers.

• 31:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It changes. I like binge through a show. So like right now I'm doing Modern Family. Modern Family is my.

• 31:07Corinne Vien?

  It has to be something light, some sort of like sitcom, family.

• 31:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Completely changed.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  Completely detached from the paranormal.

• 31:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  100%.

• 31:16Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 31:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. We each picked a story from Appalachia, but I really want to show a photo that we showed in a recent episode.

• 31:25Corinne Vien?

  Are you going to start with that?

• 31:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think I need to.

• 31:27Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 31:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because it's so creepy and I just want your.

• 31:30Corinne Vien?

  We're taking a photo intermission.

• 31:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, photo intermission. Okay. So one of our listeners sent us this photo and we read it on a regular episode, but I feel like you two will appreciate it. So I'm just going to read it again and show it to you. This is from our listener V. She said, you two have been my go to late night listen when I'm too creeped out to sleep, but I'm also too curious to stop listening. So naturally, when something downright bone chilling comes across my path, I have to send it to you. And this came across my path recently. I am a mental health therapist working in the deep woods of Appalachia. Cue banjos, fog and generational ghost stories. I get to hear all kinds of stories, some that science can explain and some that leave

• 32:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  even the most grounded among us saying, nope, that is definitely something else. This story is the latter. A client of mine who gave full permission to share this story and image recently told me about a chilling experience on the grandparents farm. It's a remote property surrounded by thick woods, the kind where the silence feels alive. For safety, they've got hunting cameras posted around the land. One night, they start getting motion alerts and they check the footage. And what they saw was not human, not animal, just wrong. There's a figure standing upright, half naked. Its face and body are distorted in a way that makes you want to look away, but also not blink. And its feet are hooves.

• 32:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everyone who has seen it believes it's a, and we don't say this word, so we call it a flesh pedestrian or a

• 33:06Speaker 04

  SW.

• 33:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 33:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm not saying what it is or isn't, but I have not stopped thinking about it since. Warning, the photo attached is a picture of the device displaying the original image. So there is a glare, but you can still see the figure clearly. Open at your own risk. And our listener did say that ever since opening the photo, they started experiencing hauntings.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 33:29Corinne Vien?

  And we can't tell you if that is the same for us because the episode that Sabrina read this in was one that we recorded this morning, so we haven't had much opportunity to know how bad viewing this is.

• 33:41Speaker 03

  Okay, well, we do not claim this energy.

• 33:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 33:45Corinne Vien?

  Sorry, we should have asked.

• 33:46Speaker 03

  Do you want to see it? Yes, we do. We want to see it. Close your eyes.

• 33:50Corinne Vien?

  You guys, you were, no, yes, yes.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  I want to see. I'm excited but scared.

• 33:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a confusing one.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  Oh. Oh, no. The way its arms.

• 34:04Corinne Vien?

  Right, we're like, is that an arm? Is that a tail? Like, what's going on with that long?

• 34:07Speaker 03

  The long little thing. Oh, my gosh. No, whatever, that is not human.

• 34:13Speaker 04

  No. Oh, God.

• 34:15Speaker 03

  And that's in Appalachia, you said?

• 34:17Corinne Vien?

  Yep. Yeah, on like a wildlife cam out in the middle of the woods at night.

• 34:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that's the thing is like they live on farmland. So it's not like, oh, a neighbor is taking a nightly stroll in their furry boxers that they like to wear to sleep.

• 34:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was so animalistic.

• 34:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 34:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I did not like that.

• 34:32Corinne Vien?

  It's super creepy.

• 34:32Speaker 04

  And we just talked about, uh, Windigos like a couple of days ago. I'm not like in the cryptid-y things right now.

• 34:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anything in Appalachia too. It's just like, you don't really know, especially because we've talked about how I think there's just such like a profound, almost ancient energy in the Appalachias that while I do believe some of these entities are there to like protect and honor like the history of the land. I do feel like you don't know what's going to set them off.

• 35:02Speaker 04

  Yes, and I don't want to find out.

• 35:04Corinne Vien?

  And I'm not willing to

• 35:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Test it out.

• 35:06Corinne Vien?

  Test it out.

• 35:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 35:07Speaker 03

  No. That will unsettle me for a few days, I think.

• 35:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You unsettled us with your personal stories and we unsettled you with a photo.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  Thank you. It's only fair.

• 35:17Corinne Vien?

  I have an email that was sent in from our listener Shay, and I feel like this is a really good one. Ever since I was little, my family and I have camped in the Appalachian Mountains, those ancient whispering hills that hold more secrets than people realize. We'd go every summer like clockwork, sometimes with big groups of family, sometimes just me and my mom. But no matter what, the Appalachians were our sacred space, our second home. The smell of pine, the creek of the trees, the soft hum of the cicadas at night. It is the soundtrack of my childhood. My mom and I have always been very spiritually in tune. We see things, feel things. I've had dreams since I was a kid that end up coming true, like deja vu on steroids. Some would call that a premonition.

• 36:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 36:02Corinne Vien?

  And she's the same way, which made our bond super strong. We would just get each other. We've always believed that there's more to this world than what most people want to admit. Growing up, my siblings and my cousins and I were all taught the same eerie but sacred camping rules from our grandfather, who sadly passed away last September. His rules were never to be broken, no matter how silly they sounded to others. Don't run in the woods. Don't whistle in the woods. Don't sing in the woods.

• 36:30Corinne Vien?

  It was always said with deadly seriousness. He wouldn't even joke about it. We didn't know why. We just knew not to ask any questions and we listened. This story takes place three years ago, when I was 15. We were on another family camping trip, just like always. It was me, my parents, my aunt, my uncle, and my two cousins, and we set up camp in one of our favorite spots, a little clearing surrounded by dense woods about a mile from a massive rock formation that we used as a kind of landmark. That rock always meant home, and you knew you were close to the camp when you saw it. The days were typical and magical, fishing in the cold mountain streams, bike riding through the dirt trails, mountain. Wait, what is this? Mountain pies over the fire? Do you know what a mountain pie is?

• 37:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Never heard of it.

• 37:11Corinne Vien?

  It's smores? Is that another name for smores?

• 37:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or just like some type of food over the fire? I don't know.

• 37:16Corinne Vien?

  No, wait, hold on. What?

• 37:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We gotta Google mountain pie.

• 37:18Corinne Vien?

  We gotta learn.

• 37:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's basically a campfire hot pocket.

• 37:22Corinne Vien?

  Oh. Okay, look, we're learning things. Okay, mountain pies over the fire. Everything felt warm and familiar until the third night. That is when things shifted. I remember feeling exhausted, which was totally out of character. I'm a hardcore night owl and I'm usually the last one asleep. But that night around eight or nine PM, I just felt like something had switched in me. I had to go to bed. I climbed into my tent, I zipped myself in, and I was out cold. And then came the dream. Except it didn't feel like a dream. It felt like I was inside of someone else's body. And I wasn't in control. And I wasn't human.

• 37:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 38:00Corinne Vien?

  I was low to the ground, moving fast, faster than anything should move. I realized I was on all fours, weaving through the trees like a predator. My vision was low, wide, and wrong. It felt off, animal, but not quite. I could hear the crunch of the leaves, the rapid breathing, the way the dirt kicked under the claws instead of the feet. And then I saw it, that rock formation, the same one near our campsite. My heart, or whatever passed for it in that moment, dropped. I realized I was only a minute or two away from our tents. The creature slowed, rising up from all fours to stand tall, unnaturally tall.

• 38:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 38:40Corinne Vien?

  Its body was black, shadowy, long limbed. The arms bent at angles that defied biology like broken sticks poorly glued together. It had no face that I could make out at least, just darkness. It crept into the clearing, silent as fog, encircled our dying fire. I saw the lantern still glowing dimly on the picnic table. The chairs we'd been sitting in still held the warmth of our bodies. Everything was exactly how we'd left it just a few hours earlier. And then it turned to my tent.

• 39:12Speaker 03

  No.

• 39:12Corinne Vien?

  To me.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  I feel like I'm in a scary movie where I'm like, no, no, no.

• 39:15Corinne Vien?

  Right? I have like chills down my body as I'm reading this. It walked over, slow, deliberate. And I could hear the zipper being tugged down. A soft.

• 39:27Corinne Vien?

  My heart pounded. The creature's hand reached through the flap. Long, bony fingers that bent like spider legs and it crawled into the tent.

• 39:34Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 39:35Corinne Vien?

  I saw my cousins stand asleep. I saw me curled up in my sleeping bag. And it reached out for me. Its hand inches from my face. And then I woke up. Except. My tent door was wide open.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 39:49Corinne Vien?

  I sat straight up, heart racing. Everything was quiet, still. My cousins were asleep, untouched. I grabbed my phone. 3:59 AM on the dot. I did not sleep another second that night. I sat there in the dark, flashlight in one hand, pocket knife in the other, waiting for something, anything to move. And the next morning, I went to the campground showers. I turned around to rinse my back. And I froze. Three deep, angry red scratches ran from the base of my neck into the middle of my spine. I hadn't felt a thing when I woke up. No pain, no itching, but there were the marks. I told only one person, my mom. She didn't question it, not even for a second.

• 40:31Corinne Vien?

  She immediately cleansed me with sage and salt and whispered prayers under her breath. She said that we may never know what came to our camp that night. But this wasn't nothing. This was not a dream. I've had all kinds of experiences with spirits and shadows and that stuff doesn't scare me. In fact, it's always been almost a comfort. Proof that my loved ones who've passed are still close. But this, this shook me to my core.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:54Corinne Vien?

  It felt old, ancient, like something that had been there long before any of us and would be long after we're gone.

• 41:02Speaker 03

  And now is a part of you?

• 41:04Corinne Vien?

  I don't know. From one spooky girl to spooky ghostesses, Shay.

• 41:11Speaker 02

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• 42:11Speaker 03

  My first thought was picturing the photo that y'all showed us before, like crawling around, creeping through the trees. That's what I was envisioning. And what would have happened if she didn't wake up?

• 42:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, okay, here, and this is very unlike me because usually I like to, like Corinne, make things worse and theorize more terrifying potentials. But what if this entity, because it almost felt like Shay was inside of the entity, but still conscious enough of herself, right? Yeah. What if the entity was in Shay, having like normal girl dreams? And was like, this isn't right? Was trying to recollect itself?

• 42:55Speaker 03

  Like switch back, find itself?

• 42:56Speaker 04

  Like a Freaky Friday, oh my god!

• 42:58Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god, she's Freaky Friday'd with a cryptid!

• 43:01Speaker 04

  No!

• 43:02Corinne Vien?

  Wait, that is actually, that would be such a fun, like hokey play on a horror movie. Like Freaky Friday-ing with a cryptid.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  It's like The Hot Chick.

• 43:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, yes.

• 43:13Corinne Vien?

  It's me, Jessica.

• 43:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I just watched that.

• 43:16Corinne Vien?

  I mean, Sabrina watched it. She'd never seen it.

• 43:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah, the description of like the limbs being put together, like what, what do they say, like broken sticks?

• 43:25Speaker 03

  Sticks stuck together.

• 43:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  So Appalachia seems to be such a like, a place of peace for the people that go there, like it was for Shay and her family.

• 43:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  You know, like somewhere they go to get away. And I like to think that, like you said, like it was just, you know, there, just trying to get itself back because they have like a, like a symbiotic relationship. They come, they enjoy the nature and they're, they're kind and good and like respectful of the nature. And so it wasn't there to harm them because they, you know, they know each other.

• 43:55Speaker 04

  No.

• 43:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 43:56Speaker 04

  I'd like to think that, but I don't think so.

• 43:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I know.

• 44:00Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause the dark, darker version is that it had its sights set on Shay.

• 44:07Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 44:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For so long.

• 44:08Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 44:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That it was like able to put Shay into its mindset to make the experience even more terrifying.

• 44:17Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  That's horrible.

• 44:18Corinne Vien?

  You know what also freaks me out is this is not something that she wrote in the email at all, but now I'm just thinking, so like the rules, like not to sing, not to do these different things in the woods. But I feel like, you know, sometimes like intrusive thoughts or just like, you're not supposed to do something, your mind just starts thinking of doing it. Like that's all you want to do.

• 44:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:36Corinne Vien?

  And who's to say she wasn't Shay wasn't sleep talking and maybe accidentally summoning this creature.

• 44:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Singing in her sleep.

• 44:44Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  And so it uses that way to get into like their minds to locate Shay.

• 44:50Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 44:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh. But think about how many people sing out in the woods.

• 44:54Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 44:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like even just like camp songs.

• 44:57Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, think of how many missing persons there are in the woods.

• 45:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And there are a lot of missing persons. So don't sing.

• 45:03Corinne Vien?

  So I'm like holding her skeleton for support.

• 45:06Speaker 03

  If I ever go to the woods, which I'm not much of a woods gal, but if I find myself there and someone starts singing, I'm, I'm leaving.

• 45:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're out.

• 45:13Speaker 04

  You're out.

• 45:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I was gonna ask if either of you have ever been to Appalachia, but it sounds like no.

• 45:18Speaker 03

  No, we don't go very far. We're in Texas and we've kind of been here most of our lives. I mean, we go, we venture out every once in a while, but never to Appalachia.

• 45:28Speaker 04

  No, I would like to.

• 45:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Texas has its fair share of creepy places, though, so.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 45:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everywhere has its fair share of creepy places.

• 45:36Speaker 03

  That's true. We went to Galveston, which is super, supposed to be super haunted. And it was a lot of fun and very, like, you can almost feel it.

• 45:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, cuz I mean, we, we've lived in Texas our whole lives. We've been there like a million times, but then for the pod, we went and like did like ghost tours and history tours and stuff. And it was so like, I didn't know all this was out here, but it explains the feeling you get when you go to Galveston.

• 45:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 45:58Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 45:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And wasn't Galveston supposed to be like the most highly concentrated pocket of like hauntings?

• 46:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, it's super haunted.

• 46:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Something like that. Yeah, my brother lives in Houston and he went and did like one of the walking tours and he immediately called me after and tried to regurgitate as many facts as he could remember.

• 46:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, we did a walking tour and I was like chasing our guide around with a notebook trying to take note. It was a little embarrassing, but I didn't want to miss a thing, you know?

• 46:23Speaker 04

  It was embarrassing cuz she was chasing, like I would use the word chasing. She was trying to get to the front and then I saw the people be like, oh, like let her go. And I was like, Macy, no, stop.

• 46:34Speaker 03

  I just didn't want to miss anything because the, the guides there were so good, but there, there's just so much, there's so much in Galveston. But yeah, I think Appalachia is on our list, but maybe not at night.

• 46:44Speaker 04

  No.

• 46:44Speaker 03

  Like, or in the woods at night, anyway.

• 46:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, well, I'll read one last, like, short story to help. This is not gonna convince any of us to go, basically.

• 46:53Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 46:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. Okay, this is from our listener Lucy. And Lucy has two stories that happened within the same week. One involving what they believe is a SW, a flesh pedestrian, and the other potentially Bigfoot. I love a Bigfoot story. Me too. My mother and I were living in the mountains outside of a small town called Jewett. We were living with our boyfriend at the time and his family, and they lived off the grid their entire lives. So I was about six years old at the time when we moved there. I would come home from school around 4:00 PM. And one night, my grandfather came to visit us. And for some context, his side of the family is full-blooded Cherokee. So he had told me lots of stories growing up about these woods.

• 47:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And he had warned me to never go in the woods at night. That night, we had a bonfire, and everything seemed normal at first, just really dark by the tree line. When my mom and I heard rustling, we thought nothing of it because there are coyotes and deer all the time. But my mom got this weird sinking feeling, and she looked at my grandfather. He told them to move quietly back to the house. We did, and my grandfather stayed outside all night, and he refuses to tell us what he faced. Two days after that, he was still staying with us. I came home from school as usual. We had dinner. And then after dinner, they would shut the lights off in the dining room. And I was always terrified because I would see orbs in that room.

• 48:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My mom had to take the dogs out, so I decided to follow with her. I had a flashlight, and I saw a huge moth on the ground and told my mom to come over. But she was afraid that the coyotes would come out, so she kept walking our dog. Then I looked up at the tree line because one of our dogs started to growl. I saw something lurking. I didn't know what it was then, but now I know. It was pale, looked kind of human on all fours. That's all I can make out in the darkness. I looked away to see where my mom went. She wasn't far, but she wasn't seeing what I was seeing. And when I looked back, I saw yellow glowing eyes, but the body was gone. We went back inside. I told my grandfather what I saw, and he said, "Good night, kid. Tonight, I'm gonna close your curtains."

• 49:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I said to him, "Okay, but I never close my curtains." And he said, "Just for tonight." Then around

• 49:13Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh, that scared me so bad.

• 49:16Corinne Vien?

  Was that wax? Was that just wax?

• 49:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 49:20Corinne Vien?

  Why did it pop out and hit me?

• 49:21Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh.

• 49:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It flew.

• 49:24Corinne Vien?

  What the fuck?

• 49:25Speaker 03

  It like leapt from the candle.

• 49:27Corinne Vien?

  Did you see that?

• 49:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:29Corinne Vien?

  I didn't see anything, but I felt

• 49:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I heard it too.

• 49:32Corinne Vien?

  I felt getting hit. Alright, well, great.

• 49:36Corinne Vien?

  Great. Wait, we're recording in the same room that before we made this our like podcasting space. I was standing in here after I had first moved in and dirt just materialized out of nowhere and fell from the ceiling and hit me.

• 49:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And now it's wax.

• 49:50Corinne Vien?

  And now there's wax falling on me.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  You're not meant to be in there.

• 49:52Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 49:53Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I might turn this into my kid's playroom one day.

• 49:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's also the one room where your kid has been terrified of something.

• 49:59Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, he actually really doesn't like this room.

• 50:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:01Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh.

• 50:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then he does love spin.

• 50:03Corinne Vien?

  But he comes in for to give the skeleton kisses and then dips.

• 50:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Alright.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  Whew, okay.

• 50:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Around 12 a.m. I hear knocking on my window. Everyone was asleep. I pull the covers over my head, but the knocking continues. And I hear from outside the window. Lucy. I cried for hours until I passed out and I never told my mom until recently. She told me that she had experiences almost identical to mine. And she refuses to go back up to that house.

• 50:33Corinne Vien?

  I can't believe she just cried herself to sleep. I would have been running for someone.

• 50:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's the terror. Like it's freeze, fight, flight, freeze.

• 50:41Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god.

• 50:42Speaker 03

  Oh no, Natalie's crying. It scared me so bad.

• 50:49Speaker 03

  We've had a story like that where someone like they had knocking on their window and they were like trying to lure them outside. I would feel such primal fear.

• 50:57Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but I hate I hate being lured, like the idea of like being summoned by something, something knowing your name.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, whatever it is, grandpa knows.

• 51:05Corinne Vien?

  Yes, how does grandpa know?

• 51:07Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 51:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He's indigenous, you know, I feel like he just knows.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  He just knows the land and.

• 51:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The land and the history and.

• 51:16Corinne Vien?

  Like, what was he doing out there?

• 51:17Speaker 04

  What always gets me is when things are like luring people out, I always ask like, if you went, what now? What's gonna happen?

• 51:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, the reason we don't know is because the people who have gone out.

• 51:30Speaker 03

  That's what I know.

• 51:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are not here to tell us the tale.

• 51:32Speaker 03

  They never come back.

• 51:33Speaker 04

  Are those the missing people?

• 51:34Corinne Vien?

  There was one story that we read and I'm trying to remember the details. Do you remember it? It was like someone's uncle and dad were, they were like walking home from church and church was at like midnight, like once a year or whatever, and they had like forty minute walk home or something like that. Do you remember, it was two hours to walk home normal and then they had to cut, it was forty minutes if they cut through like their uncle's yard or something, like through this giant field and they saw basically like a beast, like a bigfoot like beast or something like that. And the, the dad was like chasing it, everyone else ran home and the guy didn't return for like hours and hours.

• 52:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And won't talk about what happened.

• 52:11Corinne Vien?

  And when he finally came back, he, it basically like he was hiding from this thing trying to stalk him.

• 52:15Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 52:16Corinne Vien?

  After he was trying to like scare it away.

• 52:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, stories, stories from Mexico and stories from Appalachia, I feel like those two really get me.

• 52:25Corinne Vien?

  And the Philippines too.

• 52:27Speaker 04

  The Philippines, yes, we get a lot from the Philippines and Mexico. That's, those are two that are.

• 52:32Speaker 03

  So much there.

• 52:33Corinne Vien?

  Like not just a lot of activity, but like horrifying activity.

• 52:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like the belief in the paranormal is way more prevalent in those cultures and like lives. Like, is that partially why there's way more encounters and much more terror because it's like.

• 52:50Speaker 03

  Less closed off.

• 52:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A daily part of their lives.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  That would make sense to, or to me, anyway.

• 52:55Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 52:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know what they have going on.

• 52:57Corinne Vien?

  We have no answers. I think that's one thing we've learned about the paranormal in all the years of podcasting is we still have no answers.

• 53:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 53:04Corinne Vien?

  And we're gonna ignore the candle thing that happened, even that we might have just jointly experienced something.

• 53:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 53:10Speaker 04

  That was actually really scary. I want to see that back. That was actually really, really frightening.

• 53:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Will you, real quick, just tell everyone where to find Ghosteas? And then we would love to have you do a sign off with us. And then we'll see you over on your episode.

• 53:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where we will join as guests.

• 53:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, you can find us on wherever you get your podcasts. It's Ghosteas. And on YouTube, it's Ghosteas Pod on YouTube. We're also on Instagram. We post there from time to time, at Ghosteas Pod. And.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  All the socia ls.

• 53:39Speaker 03

  All the socia ls, yeah.

• 53:40Speaker 04

  It's just Ghosteas Pod, I believe. G H O S T E A S.

• 53:42Speaker 03

  Yes, like tea.

• 53:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Great. And we'll link it in the show notes, too. But thank you both for joining.

• 53:47Speaker 04

  Thank you so much.

• 53:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We'll be joining you on your feed where you're going to share some of your scary listener stories to us.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 53:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We will.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  See you on the other side.

• 54:06Speaker 02

  Life is all about making decisions. Sometimes you make questionable ones, like buying a new TV that's too big for the wall because the electronics store employee was a little too good at their job. Then sometimes you make great ones, like protecting your home and auto with Progressive. You get customized coverage options so you can be sure you have the right coverage. Get your quote today at progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and other insurers. Not available in all states.