Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor: Discuss tough times, clearing the air on Bill Belichick + Jordon Hudson, RG3, lessons in loss, NBA Finals, the real WNBA stars, Cailtlin Clark, Travis Hunter, Prenups & saying goodbye is never easy

“You can’t play chess with people who only own checkers because you both end up playing connect four and that’s a child’s game- and I no longer want to play children’s games.” Ryan Clark Has this week been our Biggest Pivot? It's been an interesting and difficult at times for The Pivot Family, we lost Channing's father and have been trying to navigate life as various things have come our way. Ryan experienced a heightened media frenzy as he expressed his take on certain topics with RG3, culturally and with family, which ultimately led him to open up on his approach when using his voice and the responsibility that comes with having a platform. We also address recent accusations about our Bill Belichick show and Channing's clears the air on comments he made about Jordon Hudson's involvement while Ryan disclosed how our conversation truly took place. And we get back to the business talking about all the hottest headlines and biggest storylines in sports from Travis Hunter wedding to prenups to the reality of WNBA and our NBA Finals picks. The guys discuss the WNBA and how the league may be at elevated popularity because of Caitlin Clark, but there are so many stars and talented players which is truly making the game so much more fun and popular to watch. We get into the NBA finals, key players to watch and who the two teams left will be and how that affects the league and ratings. We get a few laughs as we talk about prenups, break down the viral best man speech and how we would handle these situations if it was us! And as we close out our conversation, we pay tribute to Randolph Crowder Sr as Channing reflects back on his final days with his father and how this loss has affected his outlook on life as he honors the man his dad Big Randy represented. Thank you Pivot Family for rocking with us and knowing that we will always hold each other accountable and operate with integrity no matter what popular opinion may be. Thank you to our friends at Monarch Money for sponsoring this episode, Check them out here and use code PIVOT to get 50% off your first year. https://www.monarchmoney.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:01Speaker 00

  This episode is brought to you by Michelob Ultra. Good times mean competitions between you and your friends. Like seeing who can throw some pigskin the farthest, or rush the field the fastest. Winner gets an ultra. Because it's not just a superior light beer, it's also giving fans superior access to their favorite sporting events. Superior is worth playing for. Visit michelobultra.com/superioraccess to enter. Enjoy responsibly. Copyright 2026 Anheuser Busch InBev Michelob Ultra Beer, St. Louis, Missouri.

• 0:33Ryan Clark?

  Ay. Last week was the biggest pivot.

• 0:58Ryan Clark?

  Welcome to the Pivot. This is Channing Crowder. This is Fred Taylor. I am RC. It is such a pleasure to be back with my boys all together. Pivot fam, thank you for pivoting with us. Freddie T, you had some, you had way more fighting in the comments going on than I had going on.

• 1:18Fred Taylor?

  You know what, like I say, man, I'm gonna rock with my guys. I'm with you when you're right, I'm with you when you're wrong, or whatever that stuff is.

• 1:26Ryan Clark?

  When you're wrong, you're probably right.

• 1:27Fred Taylor?

  But, you know, accountability is in the spotlight. You know, last week was last week, man. I believe it's spilled milk, and that's what it is, but I'm always right with you guys. I mean, I understand what you guys mean at heart. I understand your nature, and it's as simple as that. You know, again, when you're right, I'm with you, and when you're wrong in public, I'm with you. There it goes, man, but, you know, it was a tough week.

• 1:54Ryan Clark?

  At least you had to talk about me and RG on the radio this week.

• 1:58Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, yeah. I was off last week. You know, I got your back, man, and I'm almost glad I was off because... I'd have been in that pit with you.

• 2:07Ryan Clark?

  You did not want to be in that pit with me.

• 2:09Channing Crowder?

  I see, come on, come on up there. It's tough when you do, when you do media, like you do so much. You talk so much, you're opinionated, you want it to be good. You want to articulate thoughts and your thoughts and your upbringing, what you were manifested to be. And sometimes you gotta, you gotta deal with that backlash.

• 2:31Ryan Clark?

  You know, the thing I did learn was that sort of dislike and contempt is poison. And it doesn't choke the person you hold those things for out. It chokes you out in some way. And so now here I am having this discourse that I think is happening in a certain way. And I've given all of these people who have continuously tried to throw shots at me, tried to pull me back down, tried to get me in a place where they can lessen my voice. I gave them something. Whether it was my intent or not, because they're always pulling at it, I did in that moment. Right? And I gotta be bigger than that.

• 3:16Ryan Clark?

  And like I was even thinking about it, if some of these people who constantly talk about me had my platform, would they be arguing with people who are doing media from their couch? Right? Would they be giving me the handout? So now I can have something to speak about, right? I can't allow them to use me for content. You know, that's what I had to learn. I can't allow my feelings for a certain person to change or let me get out of character in a way where I could be misrepresented. You know, what I want to do is uplift groups of people who need to be uplifted.

• 4:01Ryan Clark?

  I want to do that without being divisive. And what I learned was, the way that I approached that, gave other people a chance to be divisive, and I can't do that. And so, in looking at it, the thing I have to know is, you can't play chess with people who only own checkers, because you both end up playing Connect Four, and that's a child's game.

• 4:24Channing Crowder?

  Jeez.

• 4:25Ryan Clark?

  Right?

• 4:25Channing Crowder?

  Yes.

• 4:26Ryan Clark?

  And I no longer want to play children's games.

• 4:28Channing Crowder?

  And it was something I used to say, "Why are you so worried about me?"

• 4:31Ryan Clark?

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:32Channing Crowder?

  It's because we've gained this platform, because we gained the respect. Our voice means something, and that's something... Actually, we were on The Breakfast Club, and Angela Yee said that. Because I was like, "I don't follow you, you follow me. Why are you worried about me so much?" Because you've gained that respect from the world, from the different people. So, that's something too, that I have to, that I have to and continue to build on, is that my voice, our voices, mean more than, than the dude sitting on his couch, playing on his computer all day.

• 5:00Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you, um, you talked about a big voice.

• 5:07Ryan Clark?

  Couple Fridays ago, when we released the Belichick episode, and, you know, you shared some things and some thoughts that I believe were misconstrued, and then now people put their opinions on it to say, "This is what that show, or this is what our show was." What were you, I guess, trying to convey? Or what would you say about those things now?

• 5:33Channing Crowder?

  Oh, I would say, now that it, now that it came out, we're talking about Belichick.

• 5:37Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 5:37Channing Crowder?

  With him and Jordan, great, beautiful couple, honestly. You could see that, that they love each other.

• 5:42Ryan Clark?

  It's a real couple.

• 5:43Channing Crowder?

  And it's a real couple, and that's the thing. And as I was talking about on radio, you fall into the narratives. So, you've heard all the stuff about him, people keep asking you about that. And then I was like, "Oh, yeah, okay, this, yeah. Oh, it's wild to see Bill with a younger woman, and seeing that, that equality of it." And it was just, you know, because I looked at him in the AFC East as this... You look at Bill as a football god. You see him in a different way, and it was not... What I spoke on was not what I saw with them. I got caught up in the narrative, caught up in the questioning. When somebody sees that you have talked to... A football god, now they want to ask the questions that they've had on their minds for years.

• 6:28Channing Crowder?

  And I would say that's what I got caught up in. And I just want to tell Bill, Jordan, I apologize for any negativity it brought to you, Coach. We talked on the phone. I told you, I respect you as much as I do anybody in this world. And what happened and the artist came out was unrealistic. And that is not, that's not, that's the opposite of what I wanted to do for you and what I want to do for your relationship, Coach. So that's my bad and I want to put it out there as a man, my bad, Coach.

• 6:56Fred Taylor?

  I love the accountability, man. Because I mean, you were in the car together. I'm like, damn, is he sniffing Crowder powder? What was, I ain't seen none of that. But I love the fact that, you know, you're able to talk about it. And that's what it's about. I was going to tell you too, RC, you know, not that you were apologized, you did apologize, but not that you really needed to. I think it was more for understanding. You know, same thing, your comments, they weren't done maliciously. You know, you were just going along with the show as the host was talking. You're just, you know, kind of just speaking freely and fun as you are and that's what happened. But it all comes back to being able to show your true heart.

• 7:40Fred Taylor?

  And I really think Coach and Jordan are certainly, certainly in love and it ain't no playful, you know, playing to any narrative out there.

• 7:50Channing Crowder?

  And man, for Coach Belichick and Jordan, to your point, man, they let us come in their suite. Coach was trying to move furniture around with us. We had to tell Bill, like, no, Bill, we got you, brother. Man, they were so nice, so pleasant. Let us change, let us bring our crew in, man. So to that, we have to really show appreciation towards Bill and Jordan for what they did and how they opened up their, really their life to us in that space.

• 8:13Ryan Clark?

  And no matter the criticism, I'll show will always respect our guests in a way that we could be proud of. It was a week I wasn't trying to necessarily be locked into social media because it wasn't the greatest week for me, although there was a lot of support. And to your point. Chan, they were extremely hospitable to us. And you see some of the things that were written. And it was Jordon Hudson ran or choreographed the pivot interview. That's not the truth. Bill reached out to me personally. And we decided that we were going to talk about the book. But I asked, hey, Coach, can we get into a little bit more? And because of a relationship that I've had with him and I had with Jordan throughout the season, he was comfortable with that. But more importantly, she was comfortable letting us into their space.

• 8:58Ryan Clark?

  And she and Bill, man, sat down with me for an hour and a half before the actual interview with you two guys even started. And there were points where they communicated with one another. There were points where they communicated with me. There were points where Jordan agreed to sit and answer my questions on camera. And what I learned during that interaction is that's a real relationship. And what people have to understand in real relationships, you're going to have conversations with your significant other about how you're moving forward. Jordan wanted to be represented in a certain way. Wanted their relationship to be represented a certain way. So that Bill, vice versa, as opposed to him wanting to be represented a separate, a certain way,

• 9:43Ryan Clark?

  and their relationship represented a certain way. When we started the interview, she was getting dressed and she left in the middle. And even that part was during filming. So we know that they were comfortable with us being there. And the conversations we had afterwards before the show was released was, what will show or what can we show about Bill speaking about her? And the rest of our interview? And so for people to sit around and say that it was choreographed a certain way because Jordan was hovering, that's not true. She was gone during that part. She was sitting when Bill and I were together.

• 10:26Ryan Clark?

  She actually interviewed while Bill and I were together. It was three of us sitting around, having a conversation that was filmed, that we just didn't release. And so I think the sort of narrative that people want to build around her and her control wasn't displayed during our interview. It does bring me to something else, Chan, and you sent it over. Drewski, and I know it's like a weird transition, but it's only a transition because I went through it this year. The Drewski skit where he's in quote unquote whiteface.

• 11:00Channing Crowder?

  Yes.

• 11:02Ryan Clark?

  I thought it was hilarious.

• 11:04Channing Crowder?

  Because you were Bill Belichick, weren't you?

• 11:06Ryan Clark?

  I was Bill Belichick for Halloween.

• 11:10Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, man, that ain't criticism. I don't, I don't get it. I swear I don't get when people get so mad about this stuff. If you're Bill Belichick and you're black, you're not Bill Belichick. When the kids dress up as Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan wasn't white. He was black. Costumes and, and those things, comedy, any comedic standpoint, white chicks with the Wayans brothers, like, I don't know why people get so up in arms about that, man. It really, it's, if you're disrespectful, if you dress in blackface and you're a slave, I'm upset. If you're Michael Jordan and have blackface, Mike was black. I don't, I really do not get this criticism. Drewski thing was hilarious. What's the other one?

• 11:55Channing Crowder?

  Tropic Thunder?

• 11:56Ryan Clark?

  Tropic Thunder is a classic with Robert Downey Jr.

• 11:59Channing Crowder?

  Come on, man.

• 12:00Ryan Clark?

  Hey, just because it's a theme song, don't make it not true.

• 12:04Channing Crowder?

  Come on, man. I do not get Drew, you know Drewski's a friend of the show, you know, he out boying all that stuff. He's getting criticized. I think it's ridiculous. I think it is anger mongering when people take, especially comedians, and make it this social movement. Man, I don't get it. I swear to God.

• 12:20Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, now Drewski certainly should get a pass. I mean, again, it wasn't harmful or done in a harmful fashion. I was trying to figure out how much Fenty he had to use in order to,

• 12:29Channing Crowder?

  He had it all.

• 12:30Fred Taylor?

  Man, he had a whole body. But no, I, I think it, it really goes back to who you are. You know, like, you know, if someone else had done, or if I had done Bill Belichick, I think they would have just said, oh, is Freddie T funny? Is this, is that, is whatever? You, on the other hand, you've been called this so-called this this race baiter and all that crap. So people take offense to it unnecessarily and they shouldn't, right? And it doesn't make sense to me. And I believe they're trying to also knock Drusky off his position. Because he's gained his popularity and this he's an easy attack. But those are real life things that we've seen. I've seen that in my hood. I've seen my cool white homie that I'm still cool with to this day. At the end of the day, he goes back to his crib on his side of town, across the train

• 13:15Fred Taylor?

  tracks. You know what I'm saying? So I think the skit was was certainly hilarious. And people can can can just try to be too serious sometimes, man, and and try to cause this ruckus when the real issues, there are a lot of other real issues in life that we should have to discuss more so than a comedian, you know, putting makeup all over his body just to kind of prove real life points or moments.

• 13:41Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, first of all, I thought Drusky's skit was hilarious. I thought it was hilarious because it's realistic, right? We, I can't say we all, I had the homeboy that hung with us and was the white guy. I had the one who didn't fit in at all, but was just good people, right? When we rode in his car, we had to listen to country music because that's what he loved. And you loved him because he could be authentic and love you and be cool. But we also had, growing up, I had White Mike, right? And White Mike dated black women, right? White Mike loved rap music. And we accepted him as who he was because that was authentic, too. That was what Drusky was being satirical about, right?

• 14:23Ryan Clark?

  And so when we rail against that, it's now, to me, in my opinion, trying to be upset about something that has no racial history. But it's always the question of what if someone white did that? And I think it's we want to ignore that it's not the menstrual show. And it's not someone dressing up in a paint or makeup because they refuse to hire someone else. It's what was funny about white chicks. It's what was funny about Tropic Thunder, right? It's what was funny about the Dave Chappelle skits. And as somebody who

• 15:06Ryan Clark?

  Was accused of wearing whiteface because I wanted to be Bill Belichick for Halloween. And when I walked out of the room and all the people there, no matter what color they were, they were laughed and thought it was funny and thought it was so cool for Bill to be like, "Oh, my God, Ryan." Right? Like, all of that stuff. Chris Long, it was fun. And then it immediately, all the fun was taken out of it because, one, probably because of some of the things I've stood up for. But two, because it's not an anger that you did it. It's an anger that they can't do it. And a disassociation from why you can't. You know, and so for Drusky and for people who are comedians like Robert Downey Jr.,

• 15:48Ryan Clark?

  I hope they continue to have fun with comedy. I hope they continue to push boundaries with comedy because that's funny. But in a situation for me, after doing it one time and having that reaction, I don't get to tell people how to feel or how to be hurt or what their emotions are. I wouldn't do it again, even though I know when doing it, it was to salute Bill, to celebrate Bill, to have fun with Bill, and no malicious intent.

• 16:16Channing Crowder?

  And the blackface started back when there were no black actors.

• 16:19Ryan Clark?

  Yes.

• 16:20Channing Crowder?

  And that's why white people would be black people to do the blackface. I understand-

• 16:25Ryan Clark?

  It wasn't that they weren't black actors as much as it was they wouldn't hire.

• 16:29Channing Crowder?

  I understand the history of the anger. But now, if I'm gonna be Shrek, I'm putting on green makeup. If I'm gonna be an avatar, I'm putting on blue makeup.

• 16:41Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 16:42Channing Crowder?

  If you wanna be Bill Belichick, he's a white guy. That's what I'm saying by it. It's just, it is, it's no maliciousness behind it. There's no nasty, there's no malice behind it. That's what I don't understand. That's why I call them anger mongers. They just wanna, "Oh, yep, there you go." "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm mad at that." Why are you waiting to get mad? I don't know if the avatars get mad at me. I was avatar a couple of years- Blueface upset them? I just don't understand-

• 17:10Ryan Clark?

  I have a question though.

• 17:11Channing Crowder?

  Why you wanna do it?

• 17:12Ryan Clark?

  When you was blueface, did you insert your thing that night?

• 17:15Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:17Ryan Clark?

  You know, yeah, exactly. You know what I mean?

• 17:21Channing Crowder?

  I gave him my ponytail.

• 17:27Speaker 00

  This episode is brought to you by Michelob Ultra. Good times mean competitions between you and your friends. Like seeing who can throw some pigskin the farthest, or rush the field the fastest. Winner gets an Ultra. Because it's not just a superior light beer, it's also giving fans superior access to their favorite sporting events. Superior is worth playing for. Visit michelobultra.com/superioraccess to enter. Enjoy responsibly. Copyright 2026 Anheuser Busch InBev Michelob Ultra Beer, St. Louis, Missouri.

• 17:55Ryan Clark?

  Nito, you talk about malicious intent, man. The WNBA has been hot. Phew, to start. It has been, uh...

• 18:03Channing Crowder?

  Hey, man, the Liberty got a super team.

• 18:05Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, they're very good.

• 18:06Channing Crowder?

  The Liberty got a super team.

• 18:07Fred Taylor?

  That's my preseason championship team.

• 18:10Channing Crowder?

  And they are playing ball... Was that the Fever? Because, yeah.

• 18:17Channing Crowder?

  Hey, Freddie, can I bring up Katelyn Clark?

• 18:20Fred Taylor?

  Of course. I mean, because, hey, look, everyone else is, though. Think about it.

• 18:25Ryan Clark?

  It's supposed to be that way.

• 18:26Fred Taylor?

  When we're looking at the media and how the WNBA season is going, they're three, three, four games in. And every time you look up, there's a clip with Katelyn Clark in it. Whether she's dicing somebody up, or she's getting fouled hard, or, you know, the Tasha Cloud defense, they say she locked her down, they called it a no-call. She was upset about that. And just the other day, she got into it with...

• 18:49Ryan Clark?

  Ron Howard.

• 18:49Fred Taylor?

  Yes, yes, and they was going at it. And then, you know, but the media, they magnify everything that Katelyn does, which is fine, because it's also helping prop up the league, right? And that visibility is much needed for them. I mean, bring it up, I'm totally fine with it, because she's a star. It's like having a camera, and I know people might go crazy, it's like having a camera on, uh, like a young Michael Jordan, before he was eventually goaded, or something like that.

• 19:17Ryan Clark?

  So you're saying she's going to be the GOAT?

• 19:19Fred Taylor?

  You know, she's, she's on her way. She is definitely, look, say what you want, however you feel, she is the real deal. I don't give a damn what nobody thinks. She, she gonna dime you, she gonna shoot you, she gonna rebound, she does it all.

• 19:33Channing Crowder?

  And she's coming into a, to a media cycle where, we've talked about it, the Maya Moores and who were it, Candace Parkers and the Taurasys when she was young doing that thing and even, and that damn Iannescu, she went crazy the other night. Like, I think it's coming into the time of the media where they're getting the respect due, too, Freddie. Can she be Steph Curry? Yes. Can she be the GOAT of women's basketball?

• 20:01Ryan Clark?

  Shooting the three ball?

• 20:02Channing Crowder?

  She, she got, she got a lot on her plate if that's what you're going for.

• 20:05Ryan Clark?

  See, I think, I think sometimes we start to forget, you know, the Cynthia Coopers and the, the Cheryl Swoops and the Maya Moores and like, there's all of these players that came before that could really play ball, right? She's different because she came along at a time where they were trying to push women's sports forward. Katelyn Clark is great for the WNBA. When Katelyn Clark does well, it's good for the WNBA. When Katelyn Clark doesn't play well, or she's locked down, like our homegirl Natasha Clow did at the end of the Fever-Liberty game, that's still good for ball. And it's now showing the Nafisa

• 20:47Ryan Clark?

  Colliers, who are absolute stars and stud. Asia Wilson, who to me is one of the greatest women's basketball players of all time and easy to market and lovable and little girls go crazy anytime they see her and dudes are wearing her shoes in NBA games. Like, that's important for the league and the league continues to grow. We had Jonquail Jones on, she had a stellar night the other night. You know, I mentioned Natasha, she's taken over Kelsey Plum, going crazy in LA. The problem is, right, people have taken Katelyn Clark and made her the lead of an agenda.

• 21:23Ryan Clark?

  She don't want that. Like, she legitimately just wants to hoop. And that's what fans do. Fans stands for fanatics, right? But we gotta be better. We gotta talk about all this good stuff going on in the league. And I had to have that revelation when I had my thing the first week. Why am I arguing about that? Let's just argue about what this game is doing. And so for me now, it's like, yeah, Katelyn Clark could ball, but what about Neneke, right? What about Asia, right? What about Nafisa? What about Kelsey? Let's talk about all of these other women that are continuing to make this game fun to watch, no matter what game you turn on.

• 22:05Ryan Clark?

  And so for me, it's like, I'm not going to be on the side that has to oppose or defend against an agenda. I'm gonna be on the side of saying, look, this junk is fun, these women are skilled, and I can also admit that the reason the game is getting so much coverage now started with Katelyn Clark.

• 22:26Channing Crowder?

  And when we talk about their skill, their craft. Anthony Edwards got choked out for two games. Then he went crazy game three, right? SGA. SGA got choked out game three. SGA was averaging 30 and had 14. We talk about that. Oh, Minnesota found out how to defend SGA. We just talk about basketball. It seems like with the women, we always gotta do some more crap with them. They are athletes that play at a high level. Let's talk about Katelyn Clark, the way we talk about Steph. Let's talk about Tasha, the way we talk about Ant-Man. That's what I want to get to. You talking about a big that can shoot? That damn car Anthony Towns went crazy in the fourth quarter.

• 23:06Ryan Clark?

  Yes, he did.

• 23:07Channing Crowder?

  Big J, New York Liberty, went crazy in the fourth quarter. Why don't we talk about them the same? They are big, they got range. That's where we gotta get through with women's sports because they are amazing athletes. Let's speak on athletics and not talk about no foolishness. Oh, they're beating this person. I get the hell out of here. These girls ball.

• 23:26Ryan Clark?

  You mentioned that, though. Who you gonna win the finals? Who you got in the finals? NBA?

• 23:33Channing Crowder?

  I think OKC still gonna do it. I think they too young and athletic. I know they got, no Minnesota got them one, but I just think they can't stop SGA. What's the big boy, Harkenstein?

• 23:44Ryan Clark?

  Harkenstein.

• 23:45Channing Crowder?

  And next to Chet, they're just huge. They can run, they're young. I think OKC is gonna take this thing in the West and then ultimately be whoever comes out the East because I'm not impressed with either one of them teams.

• 23:57Fred Taylor?

  I don't disagree with you, Channing, on that. OKC just seems too strong, too deep, young. They got the MVP there, right? And, and I think what this playoffs is missing is one of those old school superstars. You know what I'm saying? Like now Shay is doing his thing and maybe it's just one of those turn of the tides, right? But I think the NBA still has to find a way to increase that marketability for the playoffs. Because they on the verge, if Indiana beats the Knicks, who's really gonna pull up to the finals? Like, are people really gonna watch it? You don't have a true.

• 24:32Ryan Clark?

  Indiana, OKC, right, yeah.

• 24:32Fred Taylor?

  You don't have a true, true.

• 24:34Channing Crowder?

  There's three tiny markets still on 14 right now.

• 24:37Fred Taylor?

  That's what I'm saying. So let's say, for example, if it were Cleveland, you're gonna pull up and watch it because of LeBron, right? Back in the day when Cleveland made the finals.

• 24:47Ryan Clark?

  Small markets.

• 24:47Fred Taylor?

  Small markets, right? So this is a little tricky. So I'm actually rooting for the Knicks. I would like to see the Knicks make it after all these years and everything. And I know New York gonna go crazy. If the Knicks do make it, impressive game the other night, even being down as much. But either case, OKC, I'm gonna still go out on a limb and say the Knicks will be in the finals, but I think OKC will probably take it.

• 25:10Ryan Clark?

  I don't care what anybody says, the NBA needs New York Knicks, Minnesota Timberwolves. Will it happen? I don't know. They calling Ant-Man the Giant Slayer, right? He's, he's beating, he goes and beats KD last year. You beat LeBron and Luka this year, right? You knock out Steph and Draymond even though Steph is hurt. Like you the Giant Slayer, right? You the Legend Slayer, we need you to slay a peer. Right, because it's, we're crowning him because he's ushering out the old, right? He's ushering out the gatekeepers, but that don't mean you the guy.

• 25:52Ryan Clark?

  To be the guy, you gotta, these dudes you stand across, that you gonna stand across from, from the next half decade or decade, that's the ones you gotta beat. But he's the dude we connect to, right? He's the American that's, that's brash and confident and competitive and skilled. Like, he does it the way we're used to seeing it, right? So, we're used to the SGA, don't get me wrong, he's cool, man, I love his MVP speech, but he's so smooth, right, he's so laid back. That's not what, that's not that Jordan, Kobe that we used to be like, ooh, ooh, ooh. Right, and then on the other side, Indiana, good for you, right? Tyrese Halliburton, you're showing that you're not the most overrated player in the league, you're playing well, right? Myles Turner, O'Connell balling, like, all of these guys showing up, so.

• 26:38Ryan Clark?

  Right, the New York Knicks, right, that celebrity front row. Stephen A. screaming every time they win a game, wahhh! Right, that's what the world, that's not the world, that's what the NBA needs. The NBA needs that to happen. The same way the NBA couldn't let Cooper Flag go to Utah.

• 26:58Ryan Clark?

  Right, the same way the NBA couldn't let Dallas go, phew, after Luka left. They slick, it's a reason them lottery balls float around, you heard Shaq? So, for me, it's about who becomes the next superstar, which you know, Jalen Brunson or Cat gotta go win one to be that guy. Anthony has to go win one to be that guy. And if you the league, you want one of them two teams to win it. Because if they don't, you's in trouble.

• 27:27Channing Crowder?

  Them ratings gonna go down. Do we want basketball because where seven people have 12 points?

• 27:35Channing Crowder?

  Do you like that basketball? Because they pray, you praise it, commentators praise it. Oh, seven people had double digits. Nah, bitch, I want to see one dude score 45. That's the superstar. I know, like, I don't know if basketball purists feel the way I do. I do not want to see people just, yeah, oh, they're, they're a distributor. I get on, whatever Shaq and Chuck were talking about how Jalen Brunson needs to distribute more and get his teammates involved and it. No, Little Red, go drop 45 for me and I'll enjoy, I'll enjoy watching that game. And I'm not a Knicks fan, I'm not a Pacers fan, but I'm gonna enjoy doing that more than distributing good basketball, pick and rolls, oh, jump shots, oh, he has a beautiful midi. I don't want to see a midi.

• 28:19Channing Crowder?

  I want to see some dude get dunked on and somebody drop 54.

• 28:23Ryan Clark?

  Shaq, the midi's part of the game. MJ had a great midi.

• 28:26Channing Crowder?

  You ever say, oh, there we go midi? When's the last time you pumped, when's the last time you got a fist pump for a midi? Nobody wants to see that shit.

• 28:34Fred Taylor?

  The midis are tough, man. You gotta take it how it come.

• 28:38Ryan Clark?

  Say, bro, I ain't gonna lie, man. I was, uh, I went on to check the bank account in the last month. Somebody was tripping. Ain't no way you eat out that much. And I was like, God, I know I ain't this hungry. Hey, it made me pescatarian again. Then too, you know what? I get to, get to the house and it's too many boxes out front. It's too easy to just click a button and have shoes sent to your house. You know what, I'm gonna punish myself.

• 29:06Channing Crowder?

  You know what, RC, I got you, bro. With Monarch Money, we all want to act like we great with money, but it's on wax. You can look at it and see what happens, bro. Monarch Money is like your personal CFO. They'll, they'll deal with it, they break it down, they help you start growing that money, staying in line, doing your things right. You gotta get Monarch Money.

• 29:24Fred Taylor?

  Bro, I used to have my bank account notification set at one penny. If anything moved, I would know, but now I use Monarch to check all my finances, review any big budgeting. I can see anytime I, I go OD on Uber Eats or something, anything crazy, Monarch's gonna let me know what I'm doing.

• 29:40Channing Crowder?

  Man, Monarch Money is the top recommended personal finance app for all the users, all the experts, over 30,000 5-star reviews. They figured it out with Monarch.

• 29:50Ryan Clark?

  Get control of your overall finances with Monarch Money. And that's use code PIVOT at monarchmoney.com for half off your first year.

• 29:59Channing Crowder?

  That is 50% off your first year at monarchmoney.com code PIVOT.

• 30:05Fred Taylor?

  Since we talking about these small markets and superstar players and stuff, going back to my small marketing Jacksonville. We got a superstar, potential superstar down there in Travis Hunter. But we ain't talking about sports. Travis just tied the knot. We excited for Trav.

• 30:21Ryan Clark?

  Congratulations, man. Of great dudes, you are a young dude I root for. Sorry for that.

• 30:27Fred Taylor?

  I mean, you know I gotta root for him. I told you I was coming, right? Y'all still don't remember?

• 30:32Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I remember. You predicted it. You had us looking smart.

• 30:35Channing Crowder?

  You done said some crazy stuff in your life. I thought you was crazy with that one too, and you hit it on the head.

• 30:40Fred Taylor?

  No, but no, man, definitely excited for Travis, man. You still got the naysayers out there that are trying to attack him, man. But what you guys just thought on this man trying to go do something? He's living his dream. He's living his moment. He's finally tied the knot. He's set to ride off into the sunset with his beautiful bride. What are y'all thoughts that the comments are still attacking?

• 31:05Channing Crowder?

  Information I've gained and the pictures I've seen, and I respect Travis all too much. And when you say that, you was about to say something mean about somebody. Heard there was no prenup. I don't like that. This man's about to be a MVP-type candidate, I think. I think he'll be an All-Pro corner. I think he'll be a very good receiver. You know, we've heard the stories of the past when they were getting together, how she called the man ugly. I don't like all that. I don't like it. I don't like those stories. I don't like those things coming out about a young man I respect. And then with the car, I heard he bought a quarter million dollar car on the wedding day. That truck, they said it was like 200 plus. For what?

• 31:47Fred Taylor?

  It's love.

• 31:48Channing Crowder?

  That's no, that's not love.

• 31:49Fred Taylor?

  I mean, it's a gift. He loved her.

• 31:51Channing Crowder?

  But you just gave, you just got a six-figure ring, and you just brought your whole family in, and we brought everybody together, and we threw a half a million dollar wedding, and I am now making you my wife, and now I have to show out more with a half a million dollar, quarter million dollar? That's just, I'll tell the young dudes, if you're leading with that on the first day of marriage, your ass gotta keep that up forever. What's he gonna get on that first anniversary, Fred? A jet?

• 32:21Channing Crowder?

  Like, when you lead with money, you gotta stick with money.

• 32:24Fred Taylor?

  That's true, in a sense, right? But it's only .5 of what he's just, what he just got. He'll probably get a $40 million guaranteed contract. That's like, less than, you know, a percent or whatever, right? But I was asked this question after Andy saw it. She asked me, why do people go and get gifts that are more expensive than an actual wedding ring? I couldn't answer the question. I don't know why.

• 32:52Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I think, I don't, I don't think that there should be a certain price that is put on the, the wedding ring in the sense because you continue to live life and your job as the provider will be to provide a roof over your spouse's head and to make sure your spouse eats. You're gonna do those things forever. So I don't necessarily know about the gift part. I will say this, and people probably be mad at me.

• 33:23Fred Taylor?

  Again?

• 33:24Ryan Clark?

  As a man who had nothing when he was married, I did not get a prenup. And I would not change that. I do believe that all athletes, all entertainers, anyone who feels like they have a certain amount of earning power should sign a prenup. And here's why. I think you should sign it. Not only to protect each person, but to make sure that each person is taken care of in the way that they should be for what they contributed. Most people, right, before you get married, it's the most optimistic you are about your relationship future.

• 34:09Ryan Clark?

  It's the happiest you are about the relationship future. It's the most you love that person and how bright that future could be. What better time would there be to say, because I love you this much, I want to make sure if things don't go right in a certain way, I can take care of you. I want to make sure that in my right mind, I know, loving you, if we grow up together, if we have children, and let's say things don't go wrong, I would never want you and my children searching for a house. And then, and then mad day comes, sometimes because they did something or sometimes because you did something, and now it's get out. I never understood that.

• 34:54Ryan Clark?

  Because you wouldn't have done that to that woman or those kids in the point where you loved them or loved her more than anything. And so to me, it's, yes, protect yourself. Because we know the rates or the percentages of relationships that don't last after football players retire. It's protect yourself. But it's also protect the other person that at that point you love, and you can make a decision that's not based in hate. You can make a decision that's not based in emotion, not based in anger. And truly, you can put whatever parameters you want to put to that because you two are agreeing in love. And so I don't think it means I don't want to give you anything.

• 35:39Ryan Clark?

  I don't want you to have nothing. What I think is, I want to make sure you have what you deserve. And if people approached it that way, I believe when these things do end, you'd be better off.

• 35:53Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, I just want to add to that, RC. I, I, I think that as your value rises, you know, any, anyone in life, right? Business people, athletes, entertainers, whatever. As your value rises, so should your awareness, right? You should be able to understand that you have love and you have logic, right? Comes down to common sense. Where do you want to be? In Travis's case, for example, is young love, right? I think it's young love. And it's also him showing a tremendous display of trust. This is how I want to start our relationship. This is how I want to go into our forever. And then I'll learn the life lessons, whatever happened from there.

• 36:36Fred Taylor?

  So I pray and hope that it works out for him for several reasons. One, because he loves this woman. We've all seen that. Also, for the people out there that says he's confused, you know, again, I would have told him like you. I would have said, bro, go ahead and sign a prenup. It doesn't hurt anything. It's protecting you. It's also protecting her. And it doesn't have to be a prenup where, let's say, you can put a timetable on it. You can make it a 10-year or 15-year. You can do it however you want. So if you feel after 15 years that, you know, we're good, this is how we're going to go off, you know, on our own journey. And then after 15, it's canceled. It doesn't hurt anybody. And again, you have to be willing to accept whatever,

• 37:21Fred Taylor?

  you know, consequences come after you've decided to get married. So again, I'm wishing him all the best. But that trust thing is a big one. And it makes me think about seeing Dave Portnoy on the show with Shannon Sharpe, where he says his ex has access to his bank account. And I put in the comment, he didn't say which account. People come at me crazy because like, oh, you killing a beautiful, display of trust, and he just trusts her. I didn't say he didn't trust her. I just say he didn't say which account. Because I know for a fact that people with a lot of money got more than one account.

• 38:01Channing Crowder?

  Yes.

• 38:01Fred Taylor?

  Right? So what y'all think about that? Y'all gonna get the ex keys to the account or not?

• 38:08Channing Crowder?

  I'll tell you this, okay, we tell our situation. Asia can see every dime that we have. We, we married. Every dime we have, every credit card. If I, you know, if I go to the liquor store and spend $400, she'll, what the hell you got? What kind of liquor costs $400?

• 38:28Fred Taylor?

  Oh, shit, I have got some champagne, you know?

• 38:31Channing Crowder?

  We've actually had that conversation. I'd be like, I was going to Chris's house, you know, Chris Ritz. So I couldn't bring no bullshit with Chris. We've had the conversation. As my wife. Every, just say, we have financial meetings together with Alex Alexis, my man, every single year. My ex-wife?

• 38:49Channing Crowder?

  What in the hell you need to see my bank accounts for? Like, what's the, I guess, I would ask you back, what's the point of your ex-wife looking at your bank accounts? It don't make no sense to me.

• 38:58Fred Taylor?

  I don't think it's for her to look, I think it's for her to utilize, right? Oh, and he definitely said, um, if she wanted to get married and have like a $500,000 wedding, go for it.

• 39:09Channing Crowder?

  He would pay for the-

• 39:10Fred Taylor?

  Sign off on it, yeah?

• 39:10Channing Crowder?

  He would pay for Jimmy?

• 39:13Fred Taylor?

  For whatever. He wants her to be happy.

• 39:15Channing Crowder?

  She needs a man.

• 39:16Fred Taylor?

  He just wants her to be happy because he said she helped build this.

• 39:19Ryan Clark?

  I, I'll be honest, I, I, I sort of agree, I think you have to, and not saying that all humans should do this. I don't believe that all humans should do this, because I don't believe all humans had someone sacrifice and support in that way. Talking about Dave Portnoy in this sense, and honestly, me in this sense, like, I don't, I just don't recall being like, I want to make this certain amount of money so I can have. Like, I just don't recall that. Like, I've always wanted to work and put effort in so they could. You know, like, the house I live in, like, I didn't buy that house because I was like, man, I need

• 40:03Ryan Clark?

  15,000 square feet.

• 40:05Channing Crowder?

  You live in a shopping mall.

• 40:06Ryan Clark?

  Right? I was just like, man, this should be really cool to raise these kids in, and for them to be able to have this, and for their friends to be able to come over. And so, I wouldn't pay for a half a million dollar wedding

• 40:20Ryan Clark?

  for someone else, but to be able to make sure that the level of living that she's always had, she can continue to have, that she's sacrificed for, that she's supported through, she could continue to do that, then yes, I, I don't disagree with Dave Portnoy's decision, especially if she never did him anything.

• 40:44Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, but you, the, the well will run dry. This'll get back to the prenup, Travis, and we'll bring it all back together.

• 40:50Ryan Clark?

  It's the trust piece of it though, Chan, like, you can't, you can't get that to a thought. Right, like if you, like if you, if you realize, if you realize 15 or 15 months in, I'd have married a hoe. Yeah, she can't have the account, but that's not the conversation we're having.

• 41:08Channing Crowder?

  If, yeah, but at that point, that prenup we speak about, or just the, the post-nuptial agreements, let's say.

• 41:16Ryan Clark?

  Which you can have postnups.

• 41:17Channing Crowder?

  Postnups as well, but the post-marriage agreement, okay, like a guy like Dave, I'll give you 100 million.

• 41:24Ryan Clark?

  Okay.

• 41:26Channing Crowder?

  You good, you got 100, you got 100 M's in the bank.

• 41:28Ryan Clark?

  You can't come back after 100 M's.

• 41:30Channing Crowder?

  I gave you 100 M's, now I'm gonna keep building my thing, you have to be good with 100 million. I'm gonna be good, because I'm gonna keep building.

• 41:38Ryan Clark?

  And let's just leave it at that.

• 41:40Channing Crowder?

  My kids, if you can't take 100 million dollars to have my kids sit, we need to have a financial meeting.

• 41:47Ryan Clark?

  My kids need to come live with me then, if you can't do it.

• 41:48Channing Crowder?

  If you can't take 100 M's, like, I'm not saying, that's, that's the whole thing about the prenup thing, where people kind of get it twisted, where a prenup is, we get married, the earner takes everything, and the other person is now living under a bridge. No, you have whatever agreement it is, whatever that agreement is, but to have free range on my bank accounts as an ex-wife, I, I think that's kind of, I think that's silly.

• 42:09Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, no, I didn't have any, um, I didn't have a problem with it. I mean, if Dave got it, it's on Dave. You know, however a man spend his money is, is how he decides to spend his money. And for me, it was a, it was an extreme show of loyalty and trust, right? That, that's what it said. And again, I only put in the comments jokingly that he didn't say which account, because he didn't. He did not. It could be an account with a million dollars in there, and he sees everything that moves, because I'm sure he has people that he pays to, to watch stuff, right? And, or it could have been an account, there's 10 million or 100 million, whatever it is, it's his money, Dave, I'm glad you could do it. Uh, I don't know if I could do it, and, and that's just.

• 42:49Channing Crowder?

  Okay, so she got the Space Coast Credit Union, and he got the Morgan Stanley.

• 42:53Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 42:55Speaker 04

  Every game day, you show up for your team. Now, it's your time.

• 43:05Speaker 05

  Ask your prescriber about Wegovy. Someaglutide injection 2.4 milligrams a GLP-1. Call 1-8334-WEGOVIE or visit wegovie.com to view the medication guide and to learn more about Wegovy. Why wait?

• 43:24Ryan Clark?

  I have a question.

• 43:24Channing Crowder?

  And that's fine.

• 43:25Ryan Clark?

  What if, how you feel if your best man, in his best man's speech, tell everybody about how, when you met your wife, he was messing with her?

• 43:36Channing Crowder?

  Oh, man, y'all sent me this. What is going on?

• 43:40Ryan Clark?

  The man, in his, so in his best man's speech-

• 43:41Channing Crowder?

  That's his best man.

• 43:42Ryan Clark?

  In his best man's speech, he was like, "Yeah, I know y'all think this is like some beautiful love story, but I was fooling with her when they met."

• 43:49Channing Crowder?

  I gotta pop him in the mouth.

• 43:52Channing Crowder?

  Right? Don't you have to hit him? You at your wedding with your wife-

• 43:57Ryan Clark?

  Already, because it seems like they both knew.

• 43:59Channing Crowder?

  You don't tell people that. You don't tell people that. It's just, you don't, you know, like, if I throw up down my chest on a Wednesday, I might, don't come out and tell people that I threw up down my chest. We keep that to ourselves. We love each other. He is full of shit for saying that to that man and that man, in front of his mom and his daddy, his uncles, his auntie, her mom and daddy. Yeah, I was knocking her down, and then he started knocking her down. Man, love y'all too. No, no. Now, when I leave the room, we watching the game, I leave the room. Now y'all sit on the couch together. I know what y'all did to me two, three years ago. I don't like it, man. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous, that's not his best man, and he should have popped, he didn't have to hit him, he should have smacked his lips like that. Just shut up, bitch.

• 44:47Fred Taylor?

  Hey, now, we'd have had to crash out on the wedding crasher, bro. I mean, that's really all I gotta say, is disrespectful, out of pocket, and certainly not the moment for that, man. I don't know, was he trying to go viral? Was he clout chasing?

• 45:01Channing Crowder?

  I don't know.

• 45:01Fred Taylor?

  It could be something, man. It's crazy.

• 45:04Ryan Clark?

  The question would be, if my best man-

• 45:09Ryan Clark?

  Says this at or during his wedding speech, that he's been with my wife, or they were dating when we met. Do I know? Right, cuz that's the first thing. Because what happens? Because if I know, then that's on me. I have made a decision to knowingly date, get into a relationship, eventually be engaged, and marry a woman that my best man, who I'm considering or expecting is his best friend, has been with. Here's the first problem with that. I know all my friends. I remember being in college and walking by rooms or walking into rooms or having conversations in the locker rooms.

• 45:51Ryan Clark?

  I didn't wanna marry nobody they had been with cuz them Negroes was nasty. Right? And at no point do I wanna be... And listen, I know everybody got a past. I just don't want you to be in his past cuz I know what he like. I know his bathing patterns. I know all of that cuz he is my best friend and he's a nasty mother effin', right? That's my first problem. But if I made that decision, I made that decision, right? The next piece is, bro, all these people don't know that. Right? We in front, like, her mama, my mama. If we that tight, your mama probably here. So now, every function we at, every function we at, that's how people looking.

• 46:36Ryan Clark?

  And now, here's my other problem. What you saying it for? You trying to throw... Are you throwing a shot at me? Are you throwing a shot at her? You trying to let her know it's still available if you want it? Right? So now, when I walk out the room, like you said, if y'all watching TV, one of y'all gotta come with me. If I'm getting a beer, you come with me, bruh cuz I know you's nasty. If I gotta go sit in the toilet, wife, you gonna have to come sit in the toilet with me and talk cuz I don't trust you. I don't trust him and you out there cuz why would he bring it up? And why was you smiling? Do you have great memories? Huh? What you smiling for? Shouldn't you be mad? Am I in competition with this man? Did I win the competition?

• 47:20Ryan Clark?

  Or do I have to be in competition forever? And lastly, you better play football and you better do MMA. Because I gotta bust your ass now. Because now, you don't respect me.

• 47:33Channing Crowder?

  You gotta fight.

• 47:34Ryan Clark?

  You don't respect me.

• 47:35Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 47:36Ryan Clark?

  You know what my kids gonna say? Imagine me being like, "Hey, Jordan, do this." You didn't do that when Derrick said he hit mama. You see what I'm saying? Now what's happening? I can never be the man of the house.

• 47:48Channing Crowder?

  Uncle Claw that. Uncle Claw that daddy. Yeah. You gonna have to lock up with him. You gonna have to lock up with him. That's crazy.

• 47:58Fred Taylor?

  That's like old boy when he asks Ice Cube, "Son, like, how you feel knowing that this song about your mama?" You see, that's crazy.

• 48:06Channing Crowder?

  Like you said, I ain't... I don't know if y'all thought y'all wives was virgins when you met them, but I didn't think that. I don't want to be friends with anybody that knocked my wife down. Do y'all? No. To this same point, I know the best man, he went overboard, but just, yeah, this is my...

• 48:25Ryan Clark?

  Personal old kiss.

• 48:26Channing Crowder?

  This is my... But just think about it, this is my college boyfriend, we dated for three years. Hey, how you doing Reggie? Want to go fishing? Man, fuck Reggie.

• 48:36Ryan Clark?

  Chad, Chad.

• 48:37Channing Crowder?

  We're cool with Reggie.

• 48:38Ryan Clark?

  You cast out? You be like, "Shit, I had a good night last night, boy. Me and Rachel, uh, me and Tia, yeah." And he go, "Shoot, I remember those nights."

• 48:48Channing Crowder?

  Fuck you Reggie. You at the wedding. They about to go on the honeymoon. Now they can reach over and hit Reg. "Reg, you gonna have a good time tonight." Yeah, he gonna have a good time with her. What is going on?

• 49:03Ryan Clark?

  You think he said, "Ay, let me tell you what she really like. I've been holding this one, ay, I've been holding this one for your honeymoon."

• 49:10Channing Crowder?

  Murder. If he try to tell me going into my honeymoon what my wife like in the bedroom, that's murder. Reg, it's over for Reg. We gonna be married one day and I'm gonna be in Sing Sing. I don't even know what that is.

• 49:23Ryan Clark?

  Man, you know, bro, I think... You know, you talk about weddings, you know, tough transition. I saw the post about Big Randy. First off, man, extremely sorry and condolences to you, your family. One of those pictures was from your wedding, you know, Big Randy there. I've been telling people who knew us all, right, about, you know, your father and like, reach out to him if you haven't. But also just kind of the beautiful story of the gap you guys had in your life and like his last days, man, you being the person that got to take care of him. I think that is a beautiful story.

• 50:05Ryan Clark?

  And so I just wanted to give you some time to tell the world, you know, about Big Randy in the way that you wanted to.

• 50:12Channing Crowder?

  Phew, that's tough. I ain't gonna lie, bro, I text y'all too. I cried, I've cried more the last week than I have probably in my life, no exaggeration. Just a good man, good father, good grandfather, great husband, took in, you know, he's, I have my stepmom, he raised two kids that weren't his and I always look at men like that differently, that'll take in and raise those other kids. It was a time when we didn't talk when I was in college and then I got to the league and Nat Moore played with my dad, this is just God, to be honest. Nat Moore played with my dad back in the 70s and I still with the Dolphins.

• 50:55Channing Crowder?

  And my first training camp, me and my dad weren't talking when I was at UF. I've told the story before, you know, I've talked about it before when my mom and dad hated each other. I live with my mom, so I got so much negativity about my dad that I was like, man, he ain't shit. My mama said he ain't shit twice a week. So I started doubting him, doubting him as a person. And Nat Moore, when I got to the Dolphins, he came up to me, you know, have the family dinner at the end of training camp? And Nat came up to me, he was like, Chan, I'm inviting Randy. He's like, I know y'all ain't talking, but I don't, I don't give a shit. He was like, that's your daddy.

• 51:33Channing Crowder?

  And shout out to Nat, I talked to Nat this week too, because you know, everybody's calling and talking to all his ex teammates and all that. We got back together. And a lot of people don't know, you know, y'all know we were going through it. He had multiple myeloma. He had blood cancer. He had cancer in his bones. Then he got, what, dementia. After going through chemo and all that, then he got dementia. Had back surgery. He was just, you know, he was physically breaking down. And I knew it. So about seven months ago, I got with Chinta, my stepmom, and they were in North

• 52:11Channing Crowder?

  Carolina. And she was like, you know, would it be cool if we come down there? And me and Asia were coming back from a damn furniture place in the middle of the day. Asia didn't hesitate. Like, she was like, y'all think about it. And I looked at Asia, and she said, yeah. We didn't have to call back. Y'all come on down, come live with us. For the last eight months, he came and lived with his man. And it was, you know, you could see it going downhill, but the finality of it is something you're never ready for. But the one thing I say, and it's cliche, man, because in the last week, I've heard

• 52:54Channing Crowder?

  so many stories about my dad I've never heard before in my life. Larry Little and Dwight Stevenson and Nat Moore and these, his old teammates are calling me. Penn State dudes are calling me. And they're telling me all these stories about Randy, man. It's just like, it just kind of solidifies. Like, you think your people are good people, and then dozens and dozens of people come and tell you, man, nah, bro, your dad was solid. Dude, I've never talked, your dad was solid. City of Tampa workers caught me. Your dad was solid. So it just kinda, it makes it look like, and like I said, the cliche of it is like, man,

• 53:36Channing Crowder?

  celebrate people out there around. And I got that chance. I got a chance to fish with Randy again. I got a chance to, you know, he's another thing. He's, he lost his sight. He was legally blind. But I got a chance to barbecue with him. He would burn the shit out of anything he put on the barbecue grill. But we were out there together talking. We was out there together drinking. We was out there together. He's what, you know, he's in the pool with my kids. He's down there walking down to fish with little Chan in the lake and like, to cherish those moments, to have those moments. I'm looking back on them now on a random Wednesday waking up and just him being there. So that's the thing I say, man, is like, if you,

• 54:20Channing Crowder?

  if you really respect, love, know somebody and you haven't told them or their family even,

• 54:28Channing Crowder?

  how much you, how much you respect them and do it. Cause they can't, they can't tell Randy them stories. Right. You know, and that's what I just wish. Like they say, that celebration of life and that's what we're planning now, but like, I, I wish as he started, his hell started to slip, I wish we'd have just thrown a Randy party.

• 54:53Channing Crowder?

  That motherfucker wasn't gonna live 10 more years. Throw a Randy party. Having people come, do something like that. So it's tough, man. It's, I'll be honest, it's probably emotionally the toughest thing I've been through in my life this last week. Ups and downs, being there for people. Now really being the patriarch of the family. I didn't know what he took on. Now I gotta pick up the calls that he was picking up. You know, it's just, it's a transition that, that is, is a new thing for me and at 41, that's crazy to say, but.

• 55:29Channing Crowder?

  Just, I know Pops is up there, man. And it's weird, I laugh, I laughed the way over. I gotta be riding up on the red light and it'll turn green. And I'll be like, "Thanks, Pops." Or, you know, cheering a runner up, catch a fish. And I'll be like, "Okay." That was, you know, appreciate you watching, have a little chant on the lake. Is it him? I don't know. Do I want it to be him? I want, I wanna, I wanna thank that he's still, I wanna thank that he still has his hands somewhere around my family and around the people I love.

• 56:09Ryan Clark?

  You know, um, we went through this with Fred and, you know, his grandmother and stuff. And so, I think, uh, just how, you know, how you doing, man? And how's the, how the kids, you know, they got to spend time with them? And, you know, obviously, we all text and try to stay in touch. But, you know, just our first time getting to see you, you know, just how, how are you doing? You know, yesterday, the Monday motivation was, uh, you know, so you say, "Check on your funny friends." And, you know what I'm saying? The, you know, when I text you, you said, uh, you know, just being strong for, for everybody.

• 56:54Ryan Clark?

  And you mentioned, you know, being the patriarch of the family. Just how, you know, how are you holding up right now?

• 57:03Channing Crowder?

  I'm good, man. I think now I'm more planning, bouncing back. Those first day, I was, bro, I was, I was sitting next to the bed. He was on life support in ICU. I'm sitting here. And I end up, I went home to shower that morning, because he was in ICU three days. And I brought back a fishing lure. It was a lure that he got little chant. And I, so I put it in his hand. And I'm sitting right there by him. And they got all the beeps, the, you know, the board oxygen level, the heart rate,

• 57:45Channing Crowder?

  the distillate and all these damn words, I don't know what they mean. But it's just a bunch of noise. He had 15 IVs going into him, different medicines.

• 57:55Channing Crowder?

  And we in there, we're telling, telling stories, right? Telling Randy stories, telling stories just about through the years, his wife, myself, my step siblings. And it went quiet. All the beat stopped. All the wiggly lines were straight. And it was, that was, like, I was sitting there next to my father, right next, grabbed his hand the second it happened, when his soul and spirit left. And so, moving forward from that,

• 58:39Channing Crowder?

  telling people that, explaining to people that, making those calls were tough. But I'll tell you, like, the support system I have is amazing because people that know me, like, they knew. Everybody called sad, with the down, you know, with the, "Man, I'm sorry to hear about it." But like, the dudes that know me called and were like, "Man, sorry to hear about your dad. You know that big man up there dancing in heaven." You know, that's what, that's what, and I didn't know I needed that, but I didn't, I didn't need to be brought down any further than I was. And that's what I think I'm gonna do moving forward,

• 59:23Channing Crowder?

  is to not make a joke out of it, but be a light in those situations, because I had, I had people that were, you know, that were emotional burdens as well. But I don't need to be more sad than I am. Called me and says, you know, like, "Y'all, y'all sent a big ass box of food to the house." And, you know, like, stuff like, like, and I was like, oh, you know, it wasn't even words, it was just like, "Oh yeah, you gonna be, you have a tough time." Like, "Yeah, y'all sent me all that food." Like, "Okay," I didn't even think about that concept, like, "Oh shit, yeah, we ate the hell out of them chicken and steak." Like, but it was like, it was like a, that more uplifting thing. So I think, I think y'all... You know, can't call out everybody. T-Dell, J-Crum.

• 1:00:07Channing Crowder?

  Oh shit, I don't wanna miss people. Kajana, Hawkman, like Solana. Like, there was a number of people that almost, I don't know if God let them know or showed me, but they knew I didn't need somebody else calling and crying on the phone to me. Because I'm gonna do it, start crying more. So, I think that helped me out a lot. I'm good now. It sunk in, it took awhile. The finality of it was tough. Because then you just wake up and you gonna never see him again. That you'll never, I'm never gonna hear that laugh again. I'm never gonna hear him cuss. Y'all, he used to cuss me out. It was like our love language. We just cussed at each other.

• 1:00:51Channing Crowder?

  And I don't know if I can ever have that with another person, as much as we cussed each other out, that knew that, you know, when he called me, you know, motherfucker all the time, like, that was him saying, "I love you." And it's like, I smiled, but it's just, I, I've never had, and I don't know if I can have a relationship like that with anybody else again, like I had with Randy. So, I'm doing good, man. I don't wanna, I could reminisce forever, but to answer your question, y'all have, y'all been, y'all have been very engaged, and I appreciate y'all, boys. Appreciate AZ. But, uh, it's tough, man. It's tough, but I would just say, try to, try to be that light. If you're going through this, or you're supporting somebody going through it,

• 1:01:35Channing Crowder?

  try to be that light. Don't just be, be sad too. We not, we just both sitting around sad. Let's, let's, let's do something to uplift it.

• 1:01:45Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, nah, it's crazy. I didn't even realize it. I looked down, and my shirt says, "Love me while I'm alive." And that's what we have to do, we know more of. You know, those people that we, that we love, that we're close to, we gotta let them know. Not just, uh, being there, but truly, uh, letting them know, showing up.

• 1:02:06Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:08Fred Taylor?

  You know I'm always here for you, bro.

• 1:02:10Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, man. You know, I think nature and nurture are funny things. When I saw the pictures, I realized how much you look like your father. You're just very light-skinned. And you telling the stories, whether it's about the cussing or about all the things that people called and told you how good of a dude he is and who was.

• 1:02:37Ryan Clark?

  People are gonna tell the same stories about you. The stories that will be told about Channing Crowder will be full of laughs, full of fun, full of cursing, the same way they were about Big Randy. We, uh, we love you. I am extremely grateful that y'all got the time. You know, y'all got my condolences to you and the family. Big Randy, Randolph Crowder. Sunrise, July 30th, 1952. Sunset, May 21st, 2025. We dedicate this show to you. Thank you.

• 1:03:16Channing Crowder?

  Appreciate that, brother.

• 1:03:17Ryan Clark?

  Nah, no doubt, man.

• 1:03:18Channing Crowder?

  Appreciate y'all, yeah.

• 1:03:18Ryan Clark?

  Nah, no doubt. I, trust me, bro. It be one of those situations, you don't know what to text, what to say.

• 1:03:24Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, man, no, just like I said, like I had to stop picking up them calls when I know the motherfucker emotional. Aunt Barbara, no way.

• 1:03:35Channing Crowder?

  Channing, no way. I'm talking to you right now.

• 1:04:06Speaker 05

  Every game day, you show up for your team. Now, it's your time.

• 1:04:16Speaker 05

  Ask your prescriber about Wegovy. Somemagnolite injection, 2.4 milligrams a GLP-1. Call 1-833-4-WEGOVIE or visit wegovie.com to view the medication guide and to learn more about Wegovy. Why wait?