Encounters x295 - Alien Abductions, UFOs, Men in Black & More

It’s alien week! From UFO-packed skies and alien boyfriends to hooded monks and late-night abductions, this episode is a wild ride through the strange and the otherworldly. We’re reading listener encounters that blur the lines between the creepy, the cosmic, and the just plain bizarre. 🛸 Listener stories include: My Boyfriend is an Alien — Psychic confirmations, mysterious body lumps, and recurring abduction “dreams” that are anything but friendly. A mass UFO sighting in Monument Valley where teachers, students, and even the principal witness disks of light over Navajo land. Possible Men in Black sightings when pasty strangers from a restricted base shop for groceries with exact change. An Area 51 camping trip featuring strange dancing lights in the sky. After sleep paralysis, needle sensations and a blinding light at the door, one listener awakes with mysterious triangular bruises. Grab your tinfoil hat, and get ready for alien encounters, ghostly apparitions, and stories you’ll be dying to tell your friends. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi.

• 2:09Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:12Speaker 03

  Two girls, one alien. It's an alien-themed episode. And we are your alienistesses.

• 2:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is Corinne.

• 2:19Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 2:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm Sabrina. And for the rest of the episode,

• 2:22Speaker 03

  we will be talking like this. I will abduct you and I will eat your brains. If aliens came like that, it would be horrifying. You don't know that they don't.

• 2:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You actually sound great like this.

• 2:35Speaker 03

  Do I?

• 2:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And horrifying.

• 2:39Corinne Vien?

  I feel like I do it. I feel like there's two voices that come out of me. There's like a high-breathing one and a really low one. I don't know how to just do one.

• 2:47Speaker 03

  It's both.

• 2:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Multiple creatures inside of you.

• 2:50Speaker 03

  Luke, I am your father.

• 2:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like that that's what you chose to say.

• 2:55Corinne Vien?

  What else should I say?

• 2:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. You've said a lot.

• 2:58Corinne Vien?

  That's true. And now I will not do that again.

• 3:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like if we did that the whole episode, we'd have zero voice 20 minutes in.

• 3:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 3:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or even sooner. I feel like I get so many birthday encounters this August.

• 3:13Corinne Vien?

  Well, we're doing aliens.

• 3:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:14Corinne Vien?

  Basically, this whole, I feel like a lot of the topics we chose for August are some of your favorite topics.

• 3:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I didn't pick them. They were in the Excel. So I feel like you picked them.

• 3:23Corinne Vien?

  It just happened to coincide with.

• 3:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You were in a giving mood.

• 3:26Corinne Vien?

  I was.

• 3:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You were so giving.

• 3:27Corinne Vien?

  And we're doing aliens. And we have quite a few stories because you guys have quite a few encounters.

• 3:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm jealous.

• 3:33Corinne Vien?

  Do you want to start?

• 3:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, sure. Why in the heck not? You know, nothing's changed. Another year has passed. I am still obsessed with aliens and I have yet to be abducted, which some of you might be glad because that means that I get to continue podcasting for you all to listen to. But I, myself, am devastated because I would much prefer to be out of here.

• 3:52Corinne Vien?

  I think if you were abducted, we would have to pause Two Girls, One Ghost. But I think collectively, all of us, the listeners and me, would start another podcast about finding you. And we would be trying to do experiments and signaling to try to get you back. You might not want to come back.

• 4:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I could just run away and let you pass in on my disappearance.

• 4:14Corinne Vien?

  That would be very traumatic. I don't want this to happen.

• 4:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, this is really, really morbid. I often think, well,

• 4:22Corinne Vien?

  About running away?

• 4:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, about like dying and like what you would do. And like what would happen to the podcast and how you would announce my death? And what would happen? Like, I'd also want you to continue it because it's our job. It's our income, but like, who would replace me? And how long would you take off? How much of a bereavement period do you get?

• 4:45Corinne Vien?

  Like four years?

• 4:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think about this a lot, like probably on a, by daily, every other day basis.

• 4:52Corinne Vien?

  I'll tell you what happened.

• 4:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What happened?

• 4:56Corinne Vien?

  Corinne has thought about this a lot, too. I would not continue with the podcast. It would be traumatic. I could figure out something else to do. Perhaps it would become even more popular in the announcement of your death.

• 5:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true.

• 5:10Corinne Vien?

  And then I would just break my new listeners and ads. But I don't think I'd even be able to like come on and announce your death for a really long time. I think I'd, I'd be really suffering.

• 5:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I'd be haunting you.

• 5:21Corinne Vien?

  And like, what do I say? A five second, she has died?

• 5:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She has died.

• 5:27Corinne Vien?

  Upload recording, update, two girls and guys, update. Listen ad free when we currently on Patreon.

• 5:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's an ad that enters before she has died. And there's one after.

• 5:40Corinne Vien?

  There's like 10 ads on both sides. I really gotta cash in. Oh my God, how horrible.

• 5:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Honestly, that would get the most listens. All right, let's stop talking about my death.

• 5:51Corinne Vien?

  No, you're not gonna die.

• 5:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let's talk about someone's boyfriend who's an alien.

• 5:55Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 5:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is from Sam.

• 5:56Corinne Vien?

  What would you do if I died?

• 5:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I haven't thought about that, but I for sure would. I, I mean, now that I'm thinking about it, I would for sure never do the podcast again.

• 6:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, we can't.

• 6:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think the only way I would be able to do it is like a year later, after a year of hauntings that you have come through and haunted me for. And we've made a, we've made a deal where I set up a microphone for you. I talk about all the hauntings that you have done of me, to me, done upon to me, given to me. And then I say, and over to you, the ghost of a podcast.

• 6:34Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 6:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What, any final words?

• 6:36Corinne Vien?

  That's a good idea, just like a, a one year update. It's like all the signs that we have given to each other and to listeners. But we don't have to do that for another eighty years.

• 6:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we're dying, holding hands next to each other at Area 51.

• 6:51Corinne Vien?

  When we're one hundred and twelve years old.

• 6:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, one hundred and thirteen. Let's give us one more.

• 6:55Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 6:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. And we are like, not bedridden. If we're bedridden, we are the grandparents in

• 7:03Corinne Vien?

  Willy Wonka.

• 7:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Willy Wonka bedridden. But otherwise, you and I are like, still kicking.

• 7:07Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 7:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We do can-can, Congo lines.

• 7:11Corinne Vien?

  We're the like, really strong, older ladies at Pilates, where like, you come in when you're twenty-one and you're like,

• 7:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  intimidate you.

• 7:16Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I'm gonna be fine. And then the eighty-year-old next to you is absolutely crushing you.

• 7:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we like, don't wear bras. Our boobs are like, hanging to the floor.

• 7:23Corinne Vien?

  Absolutely. I don't even have boobs anymore. They've just been absorbed by time.

• 7:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then we also, you might be threatened by us because we're so good at Pilates, but don't worry, we have witchy spells for you that we slip to you and say, "Before you know, the idiot who's pissing you off."

• 7:40Corinne Vien?

  Yep.

• 7:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. So.

• 7:43Corinne Vien?

  She's a man, me no.

• 7:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my God, there's, ah, sorry. On TikTok, they recently have been posting the first little clips of them filming the new Practical Magic.

• 7:53Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 7:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 7:54Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I can't wait for that.

• 7:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, I'm so excited.

• 7:56Corinne Vien?

  It's so good.

• 7:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, this is from Sam, she/her, "My boyfriend is an alien?"

• 8:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  "Hello, my spooky witchy friends. I've been listening to your podcast for two years and I am obsessed. Thank you for making my boring office job so much more bearable. I've been wanting to email you guys forever, but I can never decide on what stories I want to tell you. But in your recent episode, Alien Among Us,

• 8:17Corinne Vien?

  Alien Tukka Manga."

• 8:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Alien Tukka Manga. Why do I really want to shake my

• 8:23Corinne Vien?

  Right?

• 8:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  eighty-year-old saggy tits? "It convinced me to tell my story about my alien boyfriend. So, my boyfriend and I matched on an online dating site and we instantly clicked. One of the first conversations we had was him telling me he was into parapsychology, which made me swoon. And he ended up telling me that he had an alien abduction dream the night before our date. I asked if he had them frequently, to which he replied, 'Yes.' And I told him, 'They're probably not dreams.' And I said, 'Maybe you're an alien.'" Jump a few months later, that's so flirty. Tell your date that maybe they're an alien.

• 8:57Corinne Vien?

  Maybe you're an alien.

• 8:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jump a few months later and a few more alien abduction dreams later, we decided to go to our local annual psychic fair, which was not my first time, but it was his first time seeing a psychic. We both decided on the same girl to see for a reading and he went first. One of the first things she told him unprompted was, "You know you're an alien, right?"

• 9:18Corinne Vien?

  That's weird.

• 9:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Along with a lot of other interesting personal info. Then it was my turn and as I sat down, she told me, "You know you're dating an alien, right?" To which I replied, "Yeah, I know." So a few fun facts about my boyfriend, Sam. The fruit fly is here. Hi, fruit fly.

• 9:32Corinne Vien?

  Haven't seen you in a while.

• 9:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do I smell like a ripe banana?

• 9:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or kitten poop, which one of the two? Maybe they smell the same. Okay, so my boyfriend's name is Sam, which is also my name. We were both born on the 11th. Anyways, he had a very small, hard lump behind his ear, which I joked was an implant from his aliens that abduct him all the time. And he told me-

• 9:57Corinne Vien?

  Also, like, just that sentence or like that, what a leap. It's like, we're both named Sam and we're both named on the 11th. Anyway, his lump.

• 10:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He's an alien.

• 10:07Corinne Vien?

  The difference is, he has protrusions behind his ear and I don't.

• 10:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do love when couples have the same names, like your friends, the Kelseys. Yeah, like the Sams. Sam told me that this lump had been there for a few years and never went away. Strange. So one day I was giving him a foot massage on the couch and I found a new lump under his footpad, which had never been there before. So I joked about the aliens moving the implant. And then he proceeded to check the back of his ear. That lump that had been there for years, gone. What? My boyfriend is also allergic to everything, to which I say, "Well, of course you are. You're an alien, you're allergic to Earth." He still continues to have these night terror dreams every few months about being abducted by these aliens, which by the way, are not friendly. And his dreams consist of him being restrained and poked by these beings.

• 10:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh, this is horrifying.

• 10:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The other day, he told me about a dream he had about a young girl who had huge green eyes. This dream was just her staring into his soul, he said, for what felt like hours. Could this be an alien? His alien child? His alien girlfriend? Better not be. Whenever I call my boyfriend an alien or bring up aliens, he gets visually uncomfortable and irritated. I mean, this man also has the craziest dreams of other spooky stuff such as Bigfoot and flesh pedestrians.

• 11:24Corinne Vien?

  Because they're aliens and he is seeing them.

• 11:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I thought you might enjoy this little story about my alien boyfriend. I'm hoping to have the time another day to email you guys some other stories. Like my super spiritually inclined grandma who has heard a voice tell her, you have lived exactly half of your life while laying in bed one night. How old was she?

• 11:44Corinne Vien?

  That's scary because now you know exactly when you're gonna die.

• 11:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hopefully she was like fifty two years old. She has driven through ghost car accidents, dreamt about our household ghost, and then woke up the next morning with his name written down on a piece of paper. Or the time an animal bone fell on my head while I was outside with my friend, not under any trees or anything. Anyway, lots of love. Stay spooky. Sam, or Sam squared from Ontario.

• 12:08Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I'm so curious about this. I feel bad that he's obviously very uncomfortable and is experiencing trauma, right? Like, it's not like he feels at home when he's abducted and has these like wonderful feelings. It's he's being poked, he's being prodded, he's being physically attacked.

• 12:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're night terrors.

• 12:26Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it's terrifying. And then it's so visceral of a feeling that the jokes don't feel like jokes. It feels like, it feels real to him, clearly.

• 12:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it would be one thing if it's just like the silly little joke that Sam and Sam have. But it's reoccurring night, like nightmares that are different every time. The psychic.

• 12:43Corinne Vien?

  The psychic is weird.

• 12:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Saying it out of nowhere, unprompted, which I'm curious, I'd be curious about more of that reading. Like, what else did she say?

• 12:51Corinne Vien?

  Well, I was just thinking, like, we've talked about the theory that many alien abductions are an abduction of your soul, but like he's physically getting things put in and removed. So are some of them maybe his soul? Or is he physically being plucked away every?

• 13:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, if she's sleeping next to him and he's having these occurrences, like, yeah, it does feel like it's his astral being. But maybe alien species like can dematerialize and re-materialize.

• 13:21Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. And also, who's to say what time is on a spaceship versus, like, what if this all happens within one second of our time? But it's hours on a spaceship.

• 13:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. That's really scary and I feel bad for Sam the second.

• 13:37Corinne Vien?

  Sam the second.

• 13:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sam, you're the first.

• 13:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 13:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're both born on the 11th, so is it the same year? Who was born first?

• 13:44Corinne Vien?

  Who's older?

• 13:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, that just made me think, like, what if you found someone who was born the exact same day and place as you were, so your charts are like literally the exact same and they're like your soulmate?

• 13:58Corinne Vien?

  Oh, or are they your enemy?

• 13:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or your enemy. Actually, the guy that I dated in college, we were literally born in the same hospital.

• 14:05Corinne Vien?

  I didn't know this.

• 14:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Four days apart.

• 14:07Corinne Vien?

  Maybe I did, but I don't remember. That is weird.

• 14:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 14:09Corinne Vien?

  And then both going to LMU.

• 14:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 14:11Corinne Vien?

  Very strange.

• 14:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm.

• 14:13Corinne Vien?

  So again, yeah, your enemy or or not, who knows? Okay, this is called mass UFO sighting by all of the teachers and principal of a school. Hi, I wrote in before about my creepy kid. Update, he lost his creepy, so maybe that's good for me.

• 14:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, he lost his creepy.

• 14:33Corinne Vien?

  It'll come back. Anyway, my sister lived in Monument Valley, and if you don't know where that is, it's in southern Utah, in the Four Corners area on the Navajo Reservation. My sister has doctorates in pharmacy, she's very down-to-earth, smart, religious, but did not believe in UFOs.

• 14:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Until dun dun dun bum bum bum.

• 14:53Corinne Vien?

  My brother-in-law is also very smart, has a master's degree in mathematics. He is religious, but did not believe in UFOs or cryptids. He has a very logical mind and one of the most logical black and white personalities I know. That's why he's into mathematics.

• 15:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yep.

• 15:07Corinne Vien?

  Although I do believe the mathematics is fake.

• 15:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, technically, everything is fake. It's all a construct. We make everything up.

• 15:17Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 15:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 15:18Corinne Vien?

  My sister and brother-in-law have moved to Monument Valley because my brother-in-law had a teaching job at a high school. And one night, they saw flying saucers in the sky. I'm talking the stereotypical disks, rotating circular lights. They lived in a teacher compound slash apartments next to the high school, so all of their neighbors were teachers and their families that worked at the high school. Side note, this was pre-drones and cellphones were just moving from flip phones to smartphones. So there's not really much footage.

• 15:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And if there is, it's probably like the most grainy.

• 15:49Corinne Vien?

  Grainy, like potato phone.

• 15:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. I had a phone, like this is before selfies was a thing, but the camera rotated. So if your phone was open, you could like roll the camera in towards you and do a selfie.

• 16:02Corinne Vien?

  Wow, what phone was that?

• 16:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Something Motorola or something.

• 16:05Corinne Vien?

  Interesting. I had the Motorola chocolate and then I had the Razr. I was really into Razrs. Then I did BlackBerry, then iPhone.

• 16:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:12Corinne Vien?

  But I did like Razrs, every iteration of Razr up until BlackBerry.

• 16:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What was the one, like the one that had like the screen that like sidekick?

• 16:20Corinne Vien?

  I think that was the chocolate. Oh.

• 16:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That, the chocolate?

• 16:22Corinne Vien?

  The sidekick where it flipped up like that.

• 16:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:24Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 16:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Good times.

• 16:26Corinne Vien?

  Ah, back in the day, you guys.

• 16:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There were so many cool phones.

• 16:29Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. We lived through dial-up too.

• 16:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, we did.

• 16:33Corinne Vien?

  I remember like sitting in the garage at my aunt and uncle's house, like waiting for their computer, waiting like fifteen minutes for their computer to turn on so I could play a video game.

• 16:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:42Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god. Okay. So my sister and brother-in-law went and knocked on their neighbors' doors and were like, hey, are you seeing this? Pretty soon, the whole teacher complex was out watching these lights.

• 16:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So this is happening for a prolonged amount of time?

• 16:55Corinne Vien?

  Super long, yeah. Everyone there was a mixture of Caucasian and Navajo people. This included the principal and his wife, who are both Navajo and have lived there for twenty years. And don't worry, people did get video footage and published it on YouTube. I'll have to send that in another time. It may have been a little grainy because it was at night. And by the way, I did try to look up this footage and I am requesting a link from you because I couldn't.

• 17:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 17:18Corinne Vien?

  A lot of it's like fake AI footage and then there were like some, but I didn't know if it was from the same time.

• 17:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause do we have, we don't have the exact date?

• 17:27Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 17:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 17:28Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so the teachers all live by the high school, but all of the students are spread out by miles and miles of land. My brother-in-law said the next day, this was all the students could talk about. He said everyone had seen these lights. I'm talking students on opposite ends of the valley that live 30 minutes to an hour apart

• 17:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my gosh.

• 17:47Corinne Vien?

  When my sister told me, I was really skeptical and I even said, you saw a UFO, really? And she said, yes, I did. I'll show you the video when I visit.

• 17:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love when skeptics get serious.

• 17:59Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm. The next time I went to her house, she showed me the footage on her camera and I said, wow, you actually saw a UFO? And she said, yes. I said, well, what was it? And she said, I don't know.

• 18:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A UFO?

• 18:13Corinne Vien?

  It was an unidentified flying object. Then my sister took me outside and pointed to where she had seen it in the sky. Then I turned to my brother-in-law, knowing that he's super logical and truthful to a fault. And I said, did you really see a UFO? And without hesitation, he said, yes, I saw a UFO. Fast forward many years later, the new Unsolved Mysteries came out and had an episode called Paranormal Rangers. I said, oh my gosh, is this what you guys experienced?

• 18:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's literally

• 18:41Corinne Vien?

  And it isn't

• 18:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  About this

• 18:43Corinne Vien?

  This area. Not maybe the specific

• 18:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But the whole area.

• 18:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. It's in the same area that they lived in. Second story, there was a kid I went to college with and one night on a group date, we decided to tell creepy stories that happened to us. And this kid's story scared us so bad that my date had to run me home because we were both so scared. Anyways, this kid is from a small town in Montana. They lived next to a restricted area 51 type place. And he said, once a month, on the same day, and usually around the same time, there's a black car that would pull up with two men in black suits that would get out and do their grocery shopping.

• 19:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And do their grocery shopping?

• 19:20Corinne Vien?

  Pushing their little carts, going through the produce section. The men came from the base. They would not talk to anyone.

• 19:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're getting the aliens grocery list?

• 19:29Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 19:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Golden grams times three.

• 19:32Corinne Vien?

  Just the animal crackers, just that frosted ones, pink frosted with sprinkles.

• 19:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And alphabet soup.

• 19:38Corinne Vien?

  They would not talk to anyone when they shopped and they would hand the cashier the exact change and then leave. He said the creepiest thing about these men is that they were so pasty, so pale, they looked like they had never seen the sun before. And also, side note, nobody knew exactly what was happening on the base and no one knew anybody that worked on the base. I'm talking like, this town is so small, they had one grocery store, a gas station, and maybe a few other small stores. So it's extra weird that no one knew anyone else who was on the space. Basically, they were men in black. They would come do monthly grocery shopping in their small town. He also told us a story where he saw really bright lights and had a time lapse. He was also a hunter. He said, one time, something followed him home and growled outside his

• 20:23Corinne Vien?

  window at night, all night.

• 20:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For how long? Just one night?

• 20:27Corinne Vien?

  There were, I can't remember all the details for some of his other stories that he told, because it was like 2008 when he was sharing this story. Love the podcast. Will pee myself if this gets read on the podcast. Michelle, make another person pee.

• 20:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 20:46Corinne Vien?

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• 22:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow, okay, you have a lot of stories. So the first encounter reminds me of a movie which I don't know if it came out yet. I think it may have, but the concept was this like one teacher's entire class of students goes missing. Like one night, they all like, in the middle of the night, like walk out of their houses and disappear. And it's like only this one teacher's class. So everyone thinks-

• 22:53Corinne Vien?

  But the teacher doesn't disappear.

• 22:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, so everyone thinks the teacher like made them do something. I don't know, I haven't seen the movie, but I think it's what's her name?

• 23:02Corinne Vien?

  That sounds really fascinating. I do want to watch that.

• 23:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, it's called Weapons.

• 23:06Corinne Vien?

  Weapons.

• 23:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, it comes out August 8th. So it will be out. I don't know if it's about aliens, but it feels like that where there's like some weird thing that happens.

• 23:17Corinne Vien?

  You know what else is out? Is My Big Fat Fabulous Life's newest season. And you'll recognize a couple people.

• 23:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're the villains of the season.

• 23:27Corinne Vien?

  It seems from the trailer that we might be the villains.

• 23:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which I don't think there are any villains and like, I've been watching the season because I want to see how like the whole season plays out. And it's very like feel-good, heartwarming, like yes, there are a lot of trials and tribulations of life, but it's like very wholesome content.

• 23:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 23:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That, yes, I think we stir up some drama, not because we are drama, but because our presence-

• 23:51Corinne Vien?

  We didn't realize we were stirring up drama. We were just-

• 23:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We were just being spooky.

• 23:55Corinne Vien?

  You know, be spooky and move here bitch. The things that we encourage everyone to do.

• 24:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everyone to do. But yeah, so keep watching this season. We have no idea how it's going to play out. Like we know what we did and participated in and like the fun spooky things that we did with Whitney.

• 24:11Corinne Vien?

  And some of the things we attempted to influence.

• 24:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, but we have no idea how it will play out on the screen.

• 24:17Corinne Vien?

  We don't know how people cut and edit things together. We don't know what makes it in, what doesn't.

• 24:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, so keep watching.

• 24:24Corinne Vien?

  Our first time on reality television.

• 24:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which actually makes me think of in high school. And I think this is because I was so traumatized and dealing with so much shit that like, I seemed a certain way that I, in my body, didn't feel. And I was also a slut.

• 24:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was a high school slut, if that makes sense.

• 24:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 24:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:49Corinne Vien?

  In the same way that I was a middle school slut. I had like 12 boyfriends and I held hands with like two of them.

• 24:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I was more of a real slut then. But, um, no, I was not a slut, okay. I was exploring my sexuality and every woman has a right to do so.

• 25:06Corinne Vien?

  Also, like, that is the start of the period of horn dog central. Like, you go through puberty, you're trying to figure out things.

• 25:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And so I went through men.

• 25:14Corinne Vien?

  And then you go to college and it's just like,

• 25:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 25:17Corinne Vien?

  Wild west of,

• 25:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Of men.

• 25:19Corinne Vien?

  Exploration.

• 25:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. But so, I think I had a persona about me that I don't feel like I'm connected to at all. But I was voted, my senior superlative was most, Yeah, it was biggest slut. Was most likely to be on a reality TV show.

• 25:38Corinne Vien?

  Anywhere! Is anyone else in your class on a reality TV show?

• 25:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't think so.

• 25:42Corinne Vien?

  Or was that superlative truly correct?

• 25:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think it was just correct. But I was voted it because of like how outrageous I was, I think.

• 25:50Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 25:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And not necessarily because the people thought I'd be successful.

• 25:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I really do believe that senior year me oddly manifested so many things. I was obsessed with Kesha. This year, I met Kesha. And we've talked to Kesha's team about like doing some type of collab together. And the reality TV show thing happened this year.

• 26:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. That's crazy.

• 26:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's weird. So another 15 years from now, maybe things will be manifested. I'll get abducted by aliens.

• 26:21Corinne Vien?

  Maybe, or did everything, everything that you wished in that one year gonna come true? So now you need to, Well, I also didn't believe in love. That's a good movie or book for you, right? Go back.

• 26:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I also think about this a lot. I spent a lot of my high school career being like, I don't believe in love, I'm never getting married. And if my manifestation of everything from senior year is coming true, then I'm never gonna get married successfully.

• 26:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoops.

• 26:50Corinne Vien?

  But you've also said that you don't want to get married again.

• 26:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but I want a healthy, happy, long-term relationship and family.

• 26:57Corinne Vien?

  That doesn't, one does not-

• 27:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you for your positivity. That's a better outlook.

• 27:02Corinne Vien?

  I know plenty of people who have like very solid, like lifelong, decades-long partners who've never gotten married.

• 27:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's the life I'm trying to live.

• 27:08Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 27:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, this is fun because one of my best friends in high school's name was Leila. So this is from Leila and we're going to Area 51 for a camping trip.

• 27:18Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, you can camp on Area 51?

• 27:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, no.

• 27:21Corinne Vien?

  Not without getting abducted?

• 27:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not without what happened in the story.

• 27:24Corinne Vien?

  We're killed by the Men in Black.

• 27:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's why we're gonna be, we're gonna take our last breaths there.

• 27:29Corinne Vien?

  We parachute in, see what happens.

• 27:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  With our bed, with our Willy Wonka bed. We'll take a hot air balloon in.

• 27:37Corinne Vien?

  No, because I like the parachuting because then we can have interesting outfits. Like, what if I'm in a Bigfoot suit?

• 27:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's fun. I want like a cute tracksuit.

• 27:44Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah. A Juicy Couture.

• 27:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 27:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Low-waisted, of course.

• 27:50Corinne Vien?

  Like a G-string, just like hiked way up. They're looking in their, their binoculars. They're like, what in the hell is coming down from the sky?

• 27:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What is that?

• 27:59Corinne Vien?

  Bigfoot and his girlfriend.

• 28:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, hey spooky gals, my name is Leila. I've been listening for a couple of years and I absolutely adore you. I just joined Patreon and I'm so sad I didn't forever go. Hey, Leila's telling you, you should do it. We didn't pay her for that. She paid us.

• 28:15Corinne Vien?

  And Patreon will be there, so you know.

• 28:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it will always be there for you. Okay, so my family and I are so into the woo-woo, so much so that I took my mom and stepmom to Area 51 for a camping trip. Not literally Area 51, but 10 miles away from the back gate, as close as we could get. Rachel, Nevada. It's such a fun place. You guys have to go. We used Ghost Tube out there and got lots of funny responses to our convos.

• 28:41Corinne Vien?

  Now I'm curious how many people just collect near the gate because I just kind of assumed you were already kind of being chased away before you even got to the entrance, but is it kind of like, you know, the White House where there's just gates and people are always like peering through?

• 28:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. We can drive there and find out.

• 28:57Corinne Vien?

  That's a scary sentence.

• 28:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Fuck around and find out. That's what I did in high school and that's what I do through life now.

• 29:03Corinne Vien?

  And now you're on a TV show?

• 29:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I'm on a reality TV show. And now I'm famous.

• 29:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I'm not. Sorry, I got abducted real quick. We're possessed. Okay, so it's Friday afternoon and that's when we get there. It was scorching hot and windy as fuck day, like 40 miles per hour winds. We were so excited to use our high-powered laser pointers, looking for odd things in the sky. I don't think we got abducted or anything like that, but we camped in a tent, so who knows? But we did see a lot of weird shit. I tried to video it, but I was zoomed in and distracted, trying to see it with my bare eyes. The lights were just moving around, so weird, and we know it was not a plane or a satellite.

• 29:44Corinne Vien?

  Also, like, are you allowed to do that?

• 29:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's 10 miles away.

• 29:48Corinne Vien?

  I know, but the airspace.

• 29:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't think you are supposed to point lasers in the sky, but who can stop you?

• 29:52Corinne Vien?

  We definitely couldn't do it here. We have so many like little airports around and then Logan and... But anywhere, there could be a plane crossing over.

• 30:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. Also, do they set, like, can you get the lasers that are that powerful? I don't know. The first night we were there, we saw those weird moving lights. We watched it for like 30 minutes straight, until we got too tired. Then the second night, we got to see something really strange. Again, I tried to video it, but I'm not sure it picked up anything. The longer video is what I'm talking about. There's a video attached. We saw like at least 30 of these strange lights that were kind of doing a dance in the sky, right above the skyline. It was amazing. Being out there in the dark skies is nothing like I've ever seen. I like this idea of aliens doing synchronized swimming in the sky.

• 30:40Corinne Vien?

  They've been working on this choreography for some time and they're here to perform for you.

• 30:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly.

• 30:44Corinne Vien?

  Look what I can do, look what I can do.

• 30:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We had a fun trip. We went to Bob Lazar's Lookout and the Back Gate. Oh, so you can go to the Back Gate?

• 30:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 30:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We went to the Black Mailbox and we just had a great time being tourists. We have lived in Nevada forever and never made our way out there, and that extraterrestrial highway does carry a lot of strange phenomena. I am so excited to share this with you. It was hard to put it in words. But my dad and stepmom also own 60 acres out in Northern California, and we 100% have Sasquatch and fairies. My dad and stepmom have a ton of experiences. It is the most magical place I've ever set foot on. Thank you two for being my besties. You have no idea how much solace you bring me. I love you from Leila.

• 31:24Corinne Vien?

  Leila, you better send us your fairy stories. I know you also said Sasquatch, but I honestly think fairies were my first love, so if we don't learn about what you're seeing or what your family's seeing... I'll be devastated.

• 31:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so this video, it's kinda hard to see, cuz it's like the night sky, so there's stars and stuff. But you can see there are a couple like brighter lights that are moving throughout the sky.

• 31:48Corinne Vien?

  And like blinking and going, oh wow. Oh, that one like up curved.

• 31:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, and also I get it.

• 31:55Corinne Vien?

  How fun do you think it is to just like drive a spaceship and you're like vroom, vroom.

• 32:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm telling you, I would love to. There's so many things that I wanna be doing in my life.

• 32:04Corinne Vien?

  Do aliens who drive spaceships, do they have to go through training similar to astronauts? Because there's so much like motion sickness and intense movement.

• 32:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, yeah, I mean, is there like a driver's test for spaceships?

• 32:16Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 32:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I hope so.

• 32:17Corinne Vien?

  Because one, one of those guys is being a little reckless in that video.

• 32:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For sure.

• 32:21Corinne Vien?

  This is called "A Message From The Beyond: An Attempted Alien Abduction."

• 32:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 32:26Corinne Vien?

  Hello, my name is Jenny and I've always felt a connection to the spirit world. It started when I was younger and I would constantly tell my mom how much I hated people as a two and three year old. And also, I never grew out of this.

• 32:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is like when I was a kid, I was like, I don't wanna grow up because I know that growing up is a horrible experience. Everyone gaslit the shit out of me. It was like, no, growing up's amazing. Being an adult is amazing.

• 32:53Corinne Vien?

  That's not. Being a kid is amazing.

• 32:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I say to them, liars.

• 32:59Corinne Vien?

  Liars. And if you're a child listening, enjoy your kid years.

• 33:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Enjoy them.

• 33:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 33:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Be a kid.

• 33:06Corinne Vien?

  Once you have to pay bills, it gets a little bit harder.

• 33:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The truth is, we all are still children inside of us, but when you're an adult, you don't get to explore that childlike way as much. I don't know if you experienced this, but like I've experienced it a lot with my nieces. I feel like I am re-exploring my child, like my inner child with them. Like I get to feel and live, obviously there's more responsibilities and you have to take care of them, make sure they're okay. But I feel like you get to see the world again from like a childlike perspective.

• 33:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 33:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And playing with toys and like doing voices and reading books and just.

• 33:41Corinne Vien?

  Noah really likes to be scared, so lately.

• 33:46Corinne Vien?

  So they will just be playing and then in the middle of playing, I'll just go

• 33:51Corinne Vien?

  And then he like loves it and wants me to keep doing it. But that's I just like randomly bark and he loves amazing. Got to keep them on their toes.

• 33:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, never let them know what's coming next.

• 34:01Corinne Vien?

  Never let them know. As a two and three year old, I would tell my mom how much I hated people and I never grew out of this. I grew up to be obsessed with ghost hunting shows, which I would watch with my dad. And I'm going to break these stories up to make them a little bit easier to read. And I'm not the best author, but enjoy, I'm sure it's perfect. All right, the first one, possible alien abduction.

• 34:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love it. Start with the best.

• 34:22Corinne Vien?

  When I was a kid, we moved around a lot due to my dad being in the air force. Oh, perfect job to be abducted.

• 34:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or just see aliens.

• 34:29Corinne Vien?

  Yes. When I was four years old, I never really had or didn't really remember my dreams. Until one night I woke up from a drop of water hitting my forehead. I opened my eyes to see three very tall, very green and very thin beings wearing purple capes staring at me. The one in the middle narrowed his eyes and growled at me while lifting his finger over me to drop another droplet of water onto me.

• 34:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 34:58Corinne Vien?

  I don't remember if I screamed or not, but I heard my dad come running in and right before he opened the door, all three of them bolted out of my cracked window, maneuvering like an octopus to fit through this small space.

• 35:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, so this is not a dream?

• 35:12Corinne Vien?

  It doesn't sound like it. I'm still not sure if this was real or if this was a really bad case of sleep paralysis at a very young age. But I begged my dad to let me sleep in my parents' bed with them and he obliged. I cuddled between my parents and squeezed my eyes shut, unable to get the faces of those three things out of my head. I have not had such a vivid, intense dream since.

• 35:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The like anointing. What is the droplet of water doing?

• 35:37Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 35:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is it water? What is it?

• 35:39Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 35:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Alien juice?

• 35:40Corinne Vien?

  It's supposed to be like a memory erasing thing. But then she like woke up. Oh my gosh, I put another one on.

• 35:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What the heck?

• 35:48Corinne Vien?

  This makes me think that it was almost like a prank. Like another alien was like, if you put a droplet of water, they won't remember anything. And it's a mind erasing. And then they're like realizing that they, it was a hoax. It was a, it was a joke that another alien told them.

• 36:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know, the purple capes. I'm like, what organization is this?

• 36:06Corinne Vien?

  Some superhero alien situation.

• 36:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wow, okay.

• 36:09Corinne Vien?

  They crowled at her too.

• 36:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that's spooky.

• 36:12Corinne Vien?

  All right, now two messages from beyond. I recently became more spiritual and began asking for signs from loved ones who've passed. My sister's fiance passed away in March of this year. He was such a beautiful, kind soul and losing someone like that from this world is just such a tragedy.

• 36:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sorry.

• 36:29Corinne Vien?

  I left work early that day because I couldn't focus. I stopped at my local coffee shop on my way home and they asked me if I wanted one of their rubber ducks. I said, sure, why not? They gave me this miniature giraffe shaped yellow duck. It made me sob because her favorite animal was a giraffe.

• 36:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 36:45Corinne Vien?

  I felt a warmth come over me. It was so nice to know that they were watching over me. My time with them was way too short and I was looking forward to them joining our family.

• 36:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 36:55Corinne Vien?

  I was very close with my opa, German for grandpa, when I was growing up. And he was there for me for everything and we spoke weekly up until the day that he passed away. He was my favorite person and I still have a gaping hole in my heart from losing him.

• 37:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 37:09Corinne Vien?

  One day I was in my car after a stressful day at work and just started to sob. I'm talking one of those deeply needed, intense, loud sobs.

• 37:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 37:19Corinne Vien?

  I started to beg him for a sign that he was there. I needed him to be. I needed to know that I was on the right path. A few days later, I was at work at a thrift store and I was looking at a book. It was a book about Germany during the First World War. I found a scripture card. And I'm not a religious person, so I didn't really think about it at first. But my opa grew up in a small Catholic town in Germany, so this was something that he would have sent me. So I read the card again and then I began to cry. It was a message from Isaiah forty nine 15, which said, "See, I will not forget you. I have carved you on the palm of my hand." This is exactly what I needed.

• 37:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 37:57Corinne Vien?

  It makes me wonder if he was watching over me and guiding me all along. But I did need a more blatant sign that he was there and so I'm so glad that I got it. Thank you guys for helping me through eight hour workdays. While I'm alone in my office, I'm currently binging from the beginning. Sincerely, Jenny.

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• 39:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jenny, I'm so glad you got that sign because I totally get being like, okay, maybe my spirits and guardians and loved ones are watching over me and with me all the time. I want just a little bit more of a sign.

• 39:32Corinne Vien?

  Sometimes you need something that's slap you in the face.

• 39:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 39:34Corinne Vien?

  Although I do worry Sabrina that you would get the sign saying, I'm here and this is your sign and you'd be like, but is it my sign? Or was that just random that you said that this was my sign?

• 39:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're worried about that, but that's literally what happens.

• 39:49Corinne Vien?

  Exactly.

• 39:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I haven't needed a sign lately. I feel like I'm on the right path.

• 39:53Corinne Vien?

  Good.

• 39:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, maybe. I have one to end us on and it's from our listener Sarah. It is called, Full Body Apparition of a Monk and Possible Alien Abduction? Good day, ladies of the darkness. My name is Sarah and I'm a witch from the UK. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Your podcast is my number one favorite and I listen to you guys on repeat every morning as I get ready for work. I have two experiences I want to talk about, one being paranormal, the other being trippy as fuck. So the first experience is one that myself and an ex-boyfriend. And had while we were camping along the southwest coast of England. Every summer, me and my ex Reese would take a trip down to Perrinport Cornwall to camp in the dunes of the beach and surf every day.

• 40:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was always magical. This was our third time visiting Perrinport and I remember one night having an extremely vivid dream. However, all I remember from this dream was a white liquid dripping from a wall. Weird, right? This is an important piece of information for later. So one night after an exhausting day of surfing, we went to sleep in our tent. And I woke up around two to three in the morning, desperately needing to pee. I opened the zip to the tent and as I started to crawl out, I looked up and saw what I thought was a person. Standing there, three feet away from me. All I could see was a solid black silhouette of a hooded person. Bent over with their hands on their knees like they were intrigued, peering into our tent.

• 41:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They didn't move at all, almost like they were frozen in time. So at first I thought it was a person under the influence who had gotten curious. So I said, "Hey, are you okay? Do you need any help?" No answer, no movement. I ask again. "Are you okay? Do you need any help?" Still, no answer, no movement. I started to feel uneasy, so I backed up into the tent and woke up Reese. He got out his penknife in case we needed to protect ourselves from an attack and went out to see the figure for himself. Same thing. No movement, no answer. Reese came back into the tent and we didn't know what to do at this point, apart from possibly wait for an attack or for the person to go away. So we stay quiet to hear their movement through the sand, but nothing. Absolute silence.

• 42:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We had previously experienced some kids messing with us one year while they were walking through the sand and we could clearly hear their footsteps rustling through the dunes. So we knew what to listen for, but we heard nothing. After about fifteen minutes of absolute silence, we stuck our heads out of the tent again. The figure had disappeared. No trace, no footsteps, nothing.

• 42:21Corinne Vien?

  This is so scary.

• 42:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We were both very confused, but eventually I had to pee and then we both went back to sleep. A few days later, while we were exploring the area, we were walking upon a trail that's all along the cliffs that surround the beach. And we came across a map of Perrinport Town. It was named after the Saint Perrin who discovered that the cliffs surrounding the beach were stocked with tin. And when tin is mined, the rock of the cliff heats up and expels a white liquid that looks very similar to the white liquid I saw in my dream the night before.

• 42:52Corinne Vien?

  Weird.

• 42:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We then saw on the map that the area of the dunes that we were camping in, there was a drawing of a hooded monk depicted Saint Perrin carrying a slab of mined tin. This was too much to be just a coincidence. With more research, we found that the area underneath where we were camping used to be mines where tin was collected. There's also a chapel nearby where all the monks and miners would go and gather for worship. So maybe we saw an apparition of Saint Perrin or one of the miners monks that resided there?

• 43:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 43:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because that feels residual.

• 43:25Corinne Vien?

  That does, but also in a way, I'm almost like, well, because they didn't know any of that until the next day, it almost makes me wonder if there was like some message written in like the universe and that was just

• 43:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 43:35Corinne Vien?

  their way of learning where they were. I don't know.

• 43:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or is Sarah like very in tune with the paranormal? It's the energy there just so palpable that it translated and communicated with her through the dreams and then

• 43:47Corinne Vien?

  Right, that's essentially what I was trying to say. Like it wasn't a true haunting or like apparition. It was just the way the information about the place was processed.

• 43:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Okay, now, on to my second and craziest story. One night in 2019, I had a night out with my girlfriends. We drank a bit and had a whale of a time. So it's about four in the morning and I decided to call it a night and walk back home, which was about 20 minutes from where we were. I remember coming back into my apartment and my ex Reese was in bed. So I joined him. I fell asleep. But the next thing I remember was a loud banging at our door. Reese and I woke up. I felt a little hungover and very sleepy. Reese got up and went to the front door. At this point, I didn't know what was happening to him, but I had a very strange experience. As he was going to open the door, my body started to feel very heavy.

• 44:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I knew I was falling into sleep paralysis, something I have experienced countless times in my life. I was face down on the bed and all I could feel was a very intense sensation in my lower neck and upper back area along my spine. It felt like a long needle had just been plunged into my spine and was injecting something into me or taking something out.

• 44:57Corinne Vien?

  Ew.

• 44:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Then all I remember was experiencing what felt like my astral body floating up out to the front door of our apartment. And I could see what was the brightest light coming through our front door. I went towards it. Next thing I know, Reese and I are waking up in our bed together, like any other late morning. At first, he remembered nothing. He recalled having a very vivid, intense dream, which is kind of what I felt too. And Reese recalled waking up feeling very dazed and hearing a loud banging at the door. But then it all came back to him. He remembered getting up. He remembers walking to the front door, opening it, and opening the door to an extremely bright light shining through. He remembers being drawn towards it, and that's it. Amnesia after it.

• 45:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Same with me. After my astral self was drawn to this bright light, next thing I remember is waking up.

• 45:47Corinne Vien?

  Ah, it's just so creepy because it's not like they're just going to investigate. It's like, what kind of spell is happening where they're drawn to it? Like where they're basically a willing participant.

• 45:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 45:58Corinne Vien?

  It feels like they're willing, even though they're being coerced in a way.

• 46:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, and also the fact that they both experienced something so similar makes me even more convinced that it is real.

• 46:08Corinne Vien?

  But also, like, I was thinking like it's not their choice, like there's some sort of spell. But if it is their astral being, being taken, and if we think about like reincarnation or like previous lives, or just like existing somewhere else before inhabiting a human body, was it they were drawn to it because it was familiar to a previous part of them? Like it was like them going home in a way.

• 46:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I I mean, they were woken up rudely to the banging at the door. So like, whatever this was, these aliens, they were like, wake up.

• 46:37Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but then they went to investigate and were drawn to the light. Drawn to the light doesn't feel the same as like investigating the light.

• 46:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, it feels like.

• 46:44Corinne Vien?

  The light was just there. They were sucked into it. They didn't have a choice. Oh, so you're in, okay, we're interpreting drawn to the light as different. You're you're. Flated and sucked to the light, where I was thinking of it as like, they're experiencing something scary, then they see the light and then they're like, beautiful. And then they approach it.

• 47:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like they were. Okay, Sarah says, my inner arm felt very bruised, so I pulled back my shirt and saw three circular shaped bruises in the shape of a triangle on my arm.

• 47:13Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so yeah, this wasn't.

• 47:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I had no idea how I'd gotten that bruise. And Reese and I thought maybe it was in conjunction with the experience we had that morning. This is still one of the strangest moments I've ever experienced in my life, and I would love to hear your take on this. Much love and many thanks to all of your work, Sarah.

• 47:29Corinne Vien?

  Sounds like Sarah fought back because I'm picturing the bruises as like a hand mark, like trying to like. Grab her.

• 47:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's horrible. I'm picturing like she was injected with something. Okay, well.

• 47:43Corinne Vien?

  Many times.

• 47:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That feeling of like the needle being thrust into your spine, is that something that comes with sleep paralysis?

• 47:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because Sarah said she's experienced a lot of sleep paralysis and like, knew that that was what was happening, like her body was going into the paralytic state. But I don't know if the needle was like, specific to this experience.

• 48:02Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that is never something that I've experienced. It usually is like, it feels like you're going into like a sound vortex. Like, there's like a bubble around you and you hear a lot, lot of loud noise around you, but like, it almost feels like there's like a bubble that's getting like bigger and bigger around you that's muffling it more, even though it's getting louder at the same time. And then I kind of feel like my body start to like. Get really heavy and like I'm almost falling like I'm sinking.

• 48:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Interesting. Well, Sarah, I think you were abducted. And at the same time as your ex-boyfriend, which I'm like, it's interesting because it feels like Reese's physical body was abducted.

• 48:38Corinne Vien?

  Unless he just didn't understand or make the connection that it was his astral body going to investigate.

• 48:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But Sarah saw him get out of bed.

• 48:45Corinne Vien?

  But did Sarah's astral self see his astral being?

• 48:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It sounded like the astral part happened after Reese got up, which maybe Reese got up and then his astral self got sucked out of him and his physical self stayed right there. God, I wish we should all have cameras everywhere in our homes and in the world so that in case something like this happens, you can review the footage and just like.

• 49:06Corinne Vien?

  The footage is gonna be garbled. It's gonna look.

• 49:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Listen, we don't tell the aliens that that's what we're doing. We do, we do secret teddy bear cams.

• 49:15Corinne Vien?

  Nanny cams everywhere.

• 49:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Everywhere.

• 49:18Corinne Vien?

  Everyone have a hundred teddy bears in your house.

• 49:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Could you imagine Reese just standing at the door, the door open for an hour and then Sarah in bed for an hour?

• 49:27Corinne Vien?

  No, that's so scary. Oh, it also makes me curious. So obviously Reese is now an ex, but I'm curious if stuff like this has continued to happen to Reese and Sarah was just like the byproduct of Reese, who was the target all along, or if this was just something weird, one time both of them experienced an abduction.

• 49:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 49:45Corinne Vien?

  Crazy.

• 49:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. So if you know, if you are an alien, please email us.

• 49:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, let's talk to the boyfriend of the first emailer.

• 49:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Although he feels uncomfortable about it.

• 49:57Corinne Vien?

  Yes, he doesn't want to be an alien, it sounds like.

• 49:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He didn't choose this life.

• 50:00Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 50:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sounds like the aliens chose it for him.

• 50:03Corinne Vien?

  What do aliens eat? Maybe he'll digest that better.

• 50:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Imagine, you know how Australia was started because it was like a penal colony, basically all the criminals were sent to Australia? What if all the criminals in space are sent to be humans?

• 50:21Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I believe it. How frustrating to be an alien with the capabilities that we presume you have, given your ability to travel even to Earth.

• 50:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:31Corinne Vien?

  How frustrating to be put in a human body. That is prison.

• 50:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:37Corinne Vien?

  Sorry to all you aliens out there.

• 50:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, well, what crimes did you commit? Maybe we're not sorry.

• 50:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, what is an alien crime? What if, like, good and bad is reversed in alien civilization?

• 50:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So if you murder, you're not committing crime. You're supposed to murder in alien civilization?

• 50:53Corinne Vien?

  Maybe they're just like evil.

• 50:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, they're, they're higher than us. They're better than us.

• 50:58Corinne Vien?

  God, please.

• 50:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  God, I believe. I can get abducted. Um, thank you for joining us for this very special Alien Encounters. And if you have an alien encounter, if you've been abducted or seen a UFO and you're like, oh, shoot, they already covered it. No, we'll do it again. So please.

• 51:14Corinne Vien?

  Obviously, we've done it 30 times at least.

• 51:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So please email us at [email protected].

• 51:19Corinne Vien?

  Please rate and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Find us on Patreon for ad-free and one week early episode, plus campfire stories, plus monthly Patreon-only content.

• 51:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we're on YouTube. I keep looking at the cameras that's on.

• 51:32Corinne Vien?

  I know, our middle camera ran out of juice.

• 51:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thank you so much to our editor and producer, Jamie Ryan, and thank you to all of you.

• 51:38Corinne Vien?

  And we will. See you on the other side.

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