#1081 Texas Slim On How Your Food May Be Killing You

Texas Slim is the Founder of 'The Beef Initiative" and "Food Intelligence" In this conversation, we talk about everything that's wrong with our current food supply today. Some of these topics include seed oils, the beef supply system, why market access has become so difficult, declining testosterone levels, the food being served to our children in school, obesity, fake meat propaganda, and how the decline in food quality matches up with the decline in U. S. Dollar over the past generation. This is a must listen if you want to get informed about providing you and your family with the proper food supply needed for a healthy life. ======================= Valour (formerly DeFi Technologies) represents what’s next in the digital economy -- providing simplified, trusted access to crypto, decentralized finance and Web 3.0 investment opportunities. Institutions and investors can gain diversified, secure, compliant, and easily tradable access to a diversified set of industry-leading equity products and protocols, through a single stock purchase on a regulated exchange. Currently listed on U. S. (OTC: DEFTF) and Canadian (NEO:DEFI) exchanges. For more information or to subscribe to receive company updates and financial information, visit our website at valour.com ======================= If you’re trying to grow and preserve your crypto-wealth, optimizing your taxes is just as lucrative as trying to find the next hidden gem. Alto IRA can help you invest in crypto in tax-advantaged ways to help you preserve your hard earned money. Alto CryptoIRA lets you invest in more than 200 different coins and tokens with all the same tax advantages of an IRA. They make it easy to fund your Alternative IRA or CryptoIRA via your 401(k) or IRA rollover or by contributing directly from your bank account. So, ready to take your investments to the next level? Diversify like the pros and trade without tax headaches. Open an Alto CryptoIRA to invest in crypto tax-free. Just go to https://altoira.com/pomp ====================== Crypto wallets and browser extensions are outdated, limited in features, and don’t meet the needs of today’s Web3 users. Core, the free, non-custodial browser extension built by Ava Labs, is more than just a wallet. Core is packed with features that give Avalanche users a more seamless, and secure, Web3 experience. Go to www.core.app to access the full power of Web3 on Avalanche! ======================= The number one name in NFT domains and the world’s most powerful wallet are teaming up to bring something new to the crypto and Web3 world: Either sign up for a free blockchain.wallet or visit Unstoppabledomains.com to buy your domain today. ================== Bullish is a powerful new exchange for digital assets that offers deep liquidity, automated market making, and industry-leading security. Combining the innovations of DeFi with the regulated environment of traditional finance, Bullish empowers users to trade with certainty and earn passively at scale across variable market conditions, in an environment backed by multibillion-dollar liquidity contributions from the Bullish Treasury. Visit bullish.com/pomp today to learn more. Note: Bullish is licensed by the Gibraltar Financial Services Commission. Virtual assets and related products are high risk. Consult your investment advisor and trade responsibly. Bullish is available in select locations only and not to U. S persons. Visit bullish.com/legal for important information and risk warnings. =======================

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• 0:02Anthony Pompliano?

  What's up everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp Podcast, simply the best podcast out there. Now let's kick this thing off. Texas Slim is the founder of the Beef Initiative and Food Intelligence. In this conversation, we talk about the food supply and what are some of the problems. This includes everything from seed oils to the beef supply system, why market access has become so difficult for the American consumer, what things like ancient Rome and the European energy crisis have to do together, and why testosterone levels are so low, why children in schools are being forced to eat crickets, what Mayor Adams in New York City is doing and the mistakes that he's making, whether the Liver King, somebody who's gone viral on the internet

• 0:43Anthony Pompliano?

  recently, is the real deal or not, and what you need to know about genetic engineering, and things like Bill Gates and the CCP buying up so much farmland. Least to say, there is a lot covered in this episode, and I hope that you all really enjoy it. Once you listen, let me know on Twitter or in the comments what you think about this episode. I really enjoyed this one. I hope you enjoy it as well. Let's get into it, starting now.

• 1:07Speaker 01

  Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp Investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp or his guests as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.

• 1:31Anthony Pompliano?

  All right, guys. Bang, bang. I'm very excited. Texas Slim here in the house. I think a great place to start this conversation about what the hell is going wrong with the food supply is just how the food supply works. And so if we look at cattle as an example, I know that you have the Beef Initiative, and I think that's probably a good place for us to start.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:49Anthony Pompliano?

  There's cattle on a ranch, and somehow I eat at home. How do we get from cattle on a ranch to me eating at home? And less about the problems, but just like, what does that process look like for those that don't understand how the food supply works?

• 2:02Speaker 02

  Well, you know, one thing is called, it's basically daunting to start off with, but it used to not be daunting as far as everyone One of those touch points of our food supply, let's just say pure animal protein right now.

• 2:14Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  You know, livestock, you know, either it be beef or fowl or hog, whatever it is. Pure animal protein has basically been so centralized now that you have so many touch points along that market access that a lot of people don't even, even good intentional people that are trying to pay attention. They don't understand the complexities of that. And that's been going on for, you know, several decades now, but the last decade has really kind of been very, it's hindered our way of understanding what food is anymore.

• 2:47Anthony Pompliano?

  So that food supplies are getting more complex with more and more touch points. What's driving that? Is that like a capitalism thing where more people are trying to put their hand in the cookie jar and extract value? Is it a regulation thing?

• 2:59Speaker 02

  I would say basically coming from where I do is as far as agriculture and ranching. It's, it's basically been a combination of a regulatory capture for one. And then people that know how to basically manipulate the regulations that are put into place. You have some corruption, you have some manipulation, you have some global movements, of course, that we know about. They all kind of combine and the last person that's really being thought of is the consumer and the rancher, the producer. And so to say that it's like you have this movement that's been going on. We've had four major food consolidations on the corporate, global corporate level. Since 1992, 95, when NAFTA kind of kicked in.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  So saying that they're, they're pushing for a one world food group and they're trying to basically compartmentalize the understanding of food and then actually the market access of that food. So where they can have more control over our nutrition, our food, our access to food from supply chain lines. And I think that's being exposed right now that it's kind of a broken system and they're trying to grab even more control right now as far as the consumer itself.

• 4:07Anthony Pompliano?

  Got it. So we go to the consumers in terms of where we are in America. It's like 45% of Americans are obese, 70 plus percent are overweight.

• 4:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. And one out of two is diabetic.

• 4:20Anthony Pompliano?

  Insane.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:21Anthony Pompliano?

  And so some of that is obviously people of a sedentary lifestyle. Like, you know, there's a bunch of things that feed into it, but the food supply is a huge piece of it. And so if we go all the way back to where this starts, right? And we look at these animal proteins, what are the ranchers doing? Or kind of these initial food supply kind of insertion points, if you will? What are they doing with the food? And if we were simply to go buy it directly from them, what would be the difference between that food versus once it gets on the other end of the food supply?

• 4:49Speaker 02

  Well, what you have now, you have ranchers, and that's a broad spectrum of ranchers or animal producers. Right? You have cow calf operators. You have, you have somebody that brings a calf all the way to, you know, adulthood to where it does get harvested. You know, and so they steward that animal, they steward the land all the way through. And then you have some ranchers and animal producers that'll take that cow calf to a certain level. And then they basically have to get rid of it because the profits are controlled. The margins are controlled by four major global processors. Those processors, of course, are JBS, National Tyson and Cargill. And so what happens is that they don't have a say so after they sell that cow.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Once it goes into the form, we call them the packer, feeders, processors. Once they get into that feedlot apparatus, then they're basically fed grains. They're given antibiotics, some of them are given steroid. You know, you just don't know. And a lot of that type of input that is given into that cow is not always reported to the consumer themselves. That's part of the regulatory capture. You know, it involves the FDA, it involves the USDA. And so the rancher producer doesn't have a say in that. And they have to go ahead and get rid of that cow at that point in time because they had to have that cow processed.

• 6:14Anthony Pompliano?

  So dumb question, but on the animal protein side, we've got people who essentially go birth to like adolescence.

• 6:21Speaker 02

  Right.

• 6:21Anthony Pompliano?

  It's kind of the way I think of it. And then someone else takes it from adolescence, adolescence to adulthood.

• 6:25Speaker 02

  It's a good way to put it.

• 6:26Anthony Pompliano?

  And then from adulthood, okay, now we're going to go give it to the four processors. And whatever they do from there, they almost in some way are essentially taking an animal that usually one or two kind of ranchers have stewarded, to use your word, to this point. And then from there, that's where a lot of kind of the nasty stuff is happening. And then the animals ultimately killed, cut up, and then sent to a grocery store or whatever for the consumer.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  Hundred percent. And you know what? And I'll give two kind of comparisons here. So we can kind of clarify. You have the cow calf, you have the the feedlot cow, you have a commodity cowboy. You know, there's a lot of things that we we basically refer to in the ranching industry. What kind of producer are you? And then you have the regenerative. Regenerative basically means from the soil to the grass to the cow to the producer, then to the processor, then to the supplier, then to our forks, us as the consumers. That's kind of a decentralized, vertical integration back into how we used to basically raise, steward, harvest, and consume that cow. Right now, once we get to that processing point,

• 7:36Speaker 02

  that's the four major global processors. They process over 80% of our animal protein in the United States right now. And they get to have a big say about what type of cattle that they are bringing in, what type of labels they can put on our beef, let's say, like USDA prime. That doesn't mean anything anymore. We don't know where that cow is coming from.

• 7:57Anthony Pompliano?

  What did it used to mean?

• 7:58Speaker 02

  It mean, it used to meant that this was US beef, that we basically, we are the best cattle producers in the world. We have proven that. And it really all started in Texas in the late 1800s. And so we have a protocol that we did know how to grow the best beef in the world. Part of that stewardship, part of that basically harvesting of the animals themselves, the the lands that are used, that's all been kind of globalized. And we, the consumer, are not understanding of what has taken place. But the ranchers do know because there being, there's a prohibition going against ranchers. You know, we've lost over, I'd say 40% of our ranch land in the last, you know, let's say, less than two decades,

• 8:43Speaker 02

  even even worse than the last decade itself.

• 8:45Anthony Pompliano?

  Where's the ranch land going?

• 8:47Speaker 02

  Billionaires, wherever you want, you know, what you have a lot of people selling out these days because you know, we know real estate, we know land values, they're getting out of the system because they're having to rely on those processors, their margins on those cows are very minimal. In the past, like you said, if they were able to take that cow all the way to your fork, their profit margins, you know, they triple, they quadruple. That way they have power. Now they don't have a voice, a digital voice, or they don't have a voice in basically the market access that we started this conversation with.

• 9:22Anthony Pompliano?

  So if we go back 1800s up until, I don't know, a couple decades ago, you mentioned this kind of decentralized model, which was a local rancher would be there to raise the animal, it would go to a local producer, it would go to a local supplier, and then eventually it would end up on your plate at your house. And there were a network of these throughout the entire country. And over time, what we saw, as we've seen in many other industries, but this one is important because it's food that we're consuming, there was consolidation. And when you look at that kind of supply system, the place that the consolidation has happened in its most egregious is at the producer level, right? It's basically people have gone and they've created these four major producers.

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Processors.

• 10:08Anthony Pompliano?

  Processors, I'm sorry. And so if we go back and we think of, let's start with the land first. I remember the first time that I got tipped off to, hey, there might be a problem here, is I was reading Ted Turner, the founder of CNN's book, and quite entertaining, you know, frankly, you know, kind of a tip of a cap to an entrepreneur who saw a market opportunity and said, hey, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna build out this whole news thing, and he made a bunch of money doing it. He then got into land ownership, and I believe is still today the largest bison owner in North America. And so when you say, wait a minute, one of the folks who was an entrepreneur and, you know, kind of the equivalent of what is today the technology industry, he was on the forefront of the media industry,

• 10:51Anthony Pompliano?

  what is he doing buying up land and bison? Now, his argument was that there's going to be this food crisis, and we need to make sure that there's kind of a resurgence of these animals and things like that. If we start there, how big of a problem is that? Or are we actually happy that folks like a Ted Turner are going up and buying all this land and trying to create such a larger animal population?

• 11:16Speaker 02

  No, it's not a good thing. It's not to consolidate, it's not a good thing to consolidate, basically, the vertical integration that gave us the health in which we strived with. Whenever you have that major consolidation of land and of livestock, and then, basically, of how that livestock gets stewarded and processed, that is way too much control in too few hands. And if you look back, and I always tell everybody, look at how your grandfather used to live. Maybe it's your great-grandfather, right? But what my grandfather did is that he had a farm ranch. He stewarded land and the animal itself. What he did is exactly

• 11:59Speaker 02

  what you said. He's like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna raise this cow to a certain level, then I'm gonna go have it processed. He fed his family first, and then he fed the community. Small Texas town, let's say that. Small Texas town had a small microprocessor, an abattoir. Well, that community said, okay, well, we have this abattoir, we have a butcher, we have a grocery store, perhaps. And that, so that local produce, that local animal was sold to the local community, and it was decentralized. It was a two-party system. It was a peer-to-peer transactional system that the community basically agreed to themselves. And if you look at food and where it comes from, most people say you should be eating where you're standing. Food from where you're standing. And that's,

• 12:43Speaker 02

  that's what, you know, America, basically, that's how we got started in the 1800s. Texas fed the nation at some time. Basically, after 1878, Texas started feeding cattle to the United States.

• 12:57Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay, why did they do that?

• 12:58Speaker 02

  Well, you had the Civil War, right? And then you'd had, Texas became a nation, then it became a state. And then in Texas, we had the Comanche Wars. We had a lot of conflict that was still going. By 1878, all of that had ended.

• 13:12Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 13:12Speaker 02

  The Comanche Wars had stopped. We had full access to the state. And then, all of a sudden, we had all this cattle that were roaming around the state of Texas. And so you created the cowboy, which came from the vicaro from Mexico. So you look That and they say, well, wait, we have all of this food. How are, how are we going to deliver this food and where are we going to deliver it to? Well, we had the railroad that's really started going east and west and north and south. Well, then you had the cowboy started the cattle drive. And we started feeding military bases across the United States, some in the southwest, some in the east. And these cattle drives and the railroad system itself would deliver this pure animal protein. And then we started delivering to places like Kansas City, Chicago, New York.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  And we fed a nation at that time. And what I'm doing with the beef initiative is saying, okay, we fed the nation in 1878. That's when this started. We're going to do it again, the way we used to do it because we've been captured. The rancher has been captured and are basically our consumption models have been captured in a way that is nutritionally starving us now.

• 14:18Anthony Pompliano?

  You said something to me recently that just blew my mind, which is a large portion of the beef in the United States of America is not consumed by the American consumer. It's actually shipped elsewhere.

• 14:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:31Anthony Pompliano?

  I think that will shock many people who hear that as it shocked me. What is going on there? Why, why is American beef being shipped elsewhere? And then what does that mean in terms of the beef that we're consuming?

• 14:42Speaker 02

  Sure. Well, what I usually do to help clarify that, you know, you look at how much beef is imported into the United States and we'll go back to JBS, one of the processors. Okay, they've been, you know, we'll go, we'll, we'll cover them a little bit later. But I call it the Brazilian cattle drive. You have a, you have a cow that starts on grass in Brazil. Throughout its life, it makes it all the way to Mexico. It gets fed grains, it gets to America and then it gets processed. And then it gets to have that stamp of USDA prime put on it. Well, in San Antonio, I can't remember exactly the processing center and I won't call them out because it's not the smart thing to do. But they did a genetic test on some ground beef. Okay.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  Well, they found that that ground beef had over 80 sets of genetics in that ground beef. That's 80 different cows was in that batch of. Ground beef. It's not one cow. It was eighty different cows. Okay, so that Brazilian cattle drive is part of that import that comes into the United States. Here in Texas, or in Texas, what happens is that's the market access from that beef from Brazil gets spread out to the wholesale market. So Texans are eating actually beef from Brazil, Africa, other places. In the beginning, I told you that, you know, we grow the best beef and we harvest the best beef in the world, the United States does.

• 16:10Speaker 02

  Lot of that definitely comes from Texas because of its history. Well, a lot of that beef is sold on the global market to the highest bidder. And the ranchers and producers don't have any control of that. It's the processors that are the global processors, packers, and distributors.

• 16:28Anthony Pompliano?

  When you say that it's the best beef, help people understand what exactly makes up the best beef, right? So if you were to look at, let's say, the Brazilian cow versus something here in the United States, what makes it better?

• 16:39Speaker 02

  Well, you know, you look at technology and we say, oh, technology is bad for food. No, it's really not. I mean, we've always been at the forefront of genetics, of knowing how to raise the right bread of beef. You know, you have your Angus, you have, you know, the Charlet, we used to have the Longhorn. You have all kinds of different breeds of cattle. Well, the United States has always been at the forefront of understanding, you know, certain geographical areas, breeds of cattle. So our technology that we have invested in the cow itself is by far the best in the world that's ever happened. So with that type of technology and that type of intelligence that we've invested into the cow itself,

• 17:21Speaker 02

  well, we get to spread that out towards the world, the whole world, you know, we get to, you know, you think China has basically studied the cow like we have? No, but they're getting to buy the best beef. And so you have that type of apparatus where we've done all the research and the development. We've done the proof of work and now these global processing centers are taking our proof of work and they're sharing it to the highest bidder across the United, or across the world. And once again, we the consumer and we the rancher don't have a say in that. Because of the regulatory capture, because the amount of global money that is involved in making sure that that that highest bidder gets that Texas beef or the United States beef.

• 18:03Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, so it makes sense to me that if I am the processor and I basically go to the global market and I say, who will pay me the most, right, for my best product?

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 18:13Anthony Pompliano?

  We may not like it, but that's just how economics work. That's how capitalism works, right? They're gonna go auction it off for the highest bidder. What I don't understand is the cow or cattle that starts off in Brazil, that kind of cattle drive, if you will, to the United States, is there money kind of to follow? And that's why they're doing it is basically now that rancher or somebody along that line, they're trying to get ultimately to the United States and have it processed in the US because they actually make more money?

• 18:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, 100%. I mean, that cow that comes from Brazil, I call them touch points.

• 18:45Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  Okay, that cow from Brazil is gonna have probably about 20 touch points before it hits your fork. Okay, so how many people made money in those touch points? And a lot of times, the packer gets to decide that, the processor gets to decide that, and the distributor gets to decide that because they're all the same global corporation. Okay, if you do a regenerative rancher producer, basically you're gonna have two touch points. You're gonna have me and the rancher, you and me, the rancher. And so if you have those two touch points, who's making the money? Okay, well, you, the consumer, is getting a high value, quality item that you know exactly where it came from. The rancher is saying, okay, instead of $300 off of this cow,

• 19:29Speaker 02

  I can basically cut this cow up and make all kinds of cool steaks. And I can actually, you know, my margins go from $300 to $400 a cow to maybe $2,000 a cow. That money goes back into the land, it goes back into the cow itself, and it goes to the rancher so he can maintain his legacy, create a pillar of strength that he doesn't have right now. But he used to have in the beginning, but the global processors took that. Away distributed those touch points to other people making those profit margins.

• 20:01Anthony Pompliano?

  You mentioned earlier that ground beef, there's been these genetic tests.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:05Anthony Pompliano?

  That it kind of, it's like a surprise audit, right? Of like, hey, what is actually in here? And there was 80 or around 80 pieces of genetic information in there, meaning 80 different cows. What is the problem for those that don't understand in terms of if it was just ground beef from one cow versus 80? Is it complexity? And so if any one of those 80 cows has something wrong with it, got steroids, had some sort of treatment along the way, then it kind of poisons the other 79? Or is there other things to consider?

• 20:33Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, you just made me think of a kind of a comparison. Let's get 80 hamburgers from 80 different fast food joints. Let's blend them all up and then let's make a new hamburger. Okay, are you going to trust that hamburger? You shouldn't already because it's coming from fast food. But anyways, if you get that much variety within consumption of food, you really think that that consumption model is pure? Do you really think that that food is pure? How many, if you've got 80 different cattle in a ground, a pound of ground beef, how can you track down the complexities of what could go wrong with that beef? And how many chemicals are in that beef?

• 21:16Speaker 02

  What have they included into that beef to make it to where you think it's USDA prime? Well, there's a lot of unknowns there, right? And if you are basically eating a random consumption model, well, that's your health is random at this time.

• 21:31Anthony Pompliano?

  So we talked a little bit about Ted Turner, obviously going and consolidating farmland. And we've talked a little bit about the processors getting this kind of four companies that really have created somewhat of

• 21:45Anthony Pompliano?

  a monopoly on the market across those four players. Bill Gates is probably one of the biggest names I hear thrown around around farmland and food.

• 21:55Anthony Pompliano?

  Let's start with the farmland purchases that he's made. I think he is the single largest landowner in all of

• 22:01Speaker 02

  Farmland.

• 22:02Anthony Pompliano?

  Farmland.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:03Anthony Pompliano?

  In North America. Is it just, hey, nobody should have that much farmland? And so that's the problem? Or are there other things to consider when I hear people talking about Bill Gates?

• 22:12Speaker 02

  I wouldn't say, because we live in America. I mean, you can, you know, if you can afford it, you should be able to own it and steward it, right? Well, with his actions and what he does on a global scale, you know, you can look at, he's got so many shell companies. Cascade Investments, I think, is his investment company that goes in his LLC where he can go and acquire all this land. And if you look what he's trying to do at this particular time, you know, I think he's got investments in, I don't know, from five to 13 fake meat companies. And so you look at what his narrative is and basically what his intentionallities are, you know, you're looking at him basically taking animal protein out of the American

• 22:57Speaker 02

  consumption model. And he's, he doesn't hold back. He said, this is how we're gonna eat. You know, there's videos of him saying, you're not gonna eat meat anymore. You're gonna eat this vegetable protein. And we know it doesn't actually, we've got the texture down, we've got the look down. It doesn't quite taste like it should be, like you desire, but we're almost there. So you will be eating this. And so if you look at what his intentionallities are, it is to own as much land as he can, and to not let it basically steward animals in the way that got us here.

• 23:33Anthony Pompliano?

  So the concern is, if he buys up, let's just use the extreme example, if he bought up all the farmland in America, and he was the sole farmland owner, he could, on a whim, say, we're not gonna do this anymore. Now, these other companies that I have invested in, that are making kind of genetic engineered meat, which, again, isn't meat, but is being positioned that way, he essentially would be able to cut off the supply of, of kind of the traditional animal proteins, and then force people to adopt this new genetically

• 24:05Speaker 02

  Hundred percent. I mean, what's, if you, if you kind of look around and you know, if you're on Twitter, Bitcoin Twitter, you see a lot of things that are happening. Well, you know, all these processing centers that have gone up in flames. Okay. And I keep on saying, we're going through a global industrial food shift. Well, what does that mean? Well, from the ground level, the industry is changing. And he's part of driving that model of the global industrial food shift. Well, you look at processing centers. I, once again, I say that. And you look about probably since especially the last 10 years, but especially since 2017 and 2018, one of the biggest investors in new processing centers that do not include

• 24:47Speaker 02

  the animal themselves, they're a new form of processing center, are the processing centers themselves. JBS, Tyson, National, and Cargill. Well, if those guys are processing all of our animal protein, okay, and they're building new processing centers that will actually take the animal and the soil out of those processing centers and go to even more ultra-processed food model, well, Bill Gates is lockstep and barrel with them at the same time. And that's part of the global industrial food shift that we're seeing. And we've seen those in our time. We've seen, we saw them after 1971, you know, what the F happened in 1971. Well, the dollar got debase. Well, our food got debase. And when

• 25:28Speaker 02

  it got debase, they introduced new fake commodities into our consumption models. That's what's happening with Bill Gates.

• 25:35Anthony Pompliano?

  What is their argument? Right? So if I was to go talk to Gates or somebody else and I said, hey, why are you doing this?

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Climate change.

• 25:42Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay, climate change is like the driver. Okay, explain more in terms of like, what argument are they making around climate change?

• 25:48Speaker 02

  Well, of course, if you look at climate change and how it's always been manipulated for certain reasons, you know, I've, I've grown up, you know, I'm generational X. First, we were going to freeze to death. Now we're going to burn to death. You know, it's always some type of decade, type of psyop that they're doing within, you know, our understanding of what climate change is. What they've done now is they were looking at carbon, you know, they're looking at, you know, carbon hazards. What is causing this? Climate change? Well, it's too much carbon. But what they're really not telling you is that the soil has been destroyed by the chemicals in which we've been using, especially in the last 50 years since 1971. And so what they do is they create a narrative, they keep, they create a global marketing plan

• 26:33Speaker 02

  saying, well, climate change is because of cows. And now, you know, on the UN, basically platform, and as far as the globalists, they do consider the cow a carbon hazard.

• 26:45Anthony Pompliano?

  Is that because of cow farts?

• 26:46Speaker 02

  Well, it's actually cow burps. But they use cow burps, yeah.

• 26:50Anthony Pompliano?

  Farts sound better than burps, I guess.

• 26:52Speaker 02

  Methane, you know, and everything like that, exactly. But what, you know, that's, once again, they exploit ignorance of the cow itself. And so that's a distraction that they get the public to look at saying, oh, my gosh, I'm not going to eat beef anymore. I'm going to be a vegan because the cow is bad for the planet. And I want to be a good steward of the planet.

• 27:15Anthony Pompliano?

  What is insane to me, I read a study previously, and we can link to it, which stated that if you give cows in their feed seaweed, it will drastically reduce the methane output. And so cow farts, burps, et cetera, drastically are reduced. And so let's just say on one side of the extreme, you have like, let's not touch cows anymore. Let's move to, you know, genetically engineered food. Let's all go vegan and essentially abandon what humans have done for literally centuries.

• 27:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 27:51Anthony Pompliano?

  Instead, why don't we just figure out how to make them stop burping or farting?

• 27:55Speaker 02

  Well, it's not the issue, though. That's the problem. See, we're validating what they're making up as the propaganda. That has nothing to do with what's going on with climate, with carbon.

• 28:06Anthony Pompliano?

  Explain what you think is going on.

• 28:08Speaker 02

  What's going on is we've killed the soil.

• 28:10Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay, in what way?

• 28:12Speaker 02

  With herbicides and pesticides. The chemical companies from, you look at after World War II and we'll kind of build into what's going on right now.

• 28:22Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  Globally on a macro level. After World War II, what we did is we quit making bombs. We started making fertilizer. Okay, and it was a good thing. It's like, hey, we got this nitrogen. We can actually make these plants grow a lot faster. They're, you know, they can battle droughts. They can do a lot of things. And so it started out very with well intentions. And we did. They went out to the farmer like Will Harris with White Oak Pastures. And we're having a conference there, a summit. But he told me a story about his father. The guy shows up and he had a bunch of fertilizer. He goes, I'm going to pour this on your crop. And I'm not going to pour it on this part of your crop. And I'm going to come back in about, you know, a week. And then we're going to talk again.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Well, within that week, that crop had grown exponentially more. It got all this really good fertilizer. And all of a sudden, we were on to something as a nation. And who was driving that was the chemical companies. Okay. And so as we've evolved in time, in 1971, we still had the micro farms. We still had my grandfather that stewarded land fed his community. Eric Butts, the ag commissioner under Nixon, came out and he said, guess what? We're going to go big or you're going to go home. And what he meant is that you're going to do one crop and you're going to go fence to fence because we have all this new technology of chemicals. Basically, it was the herbicides, the pesticides, the fertilizers.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  And so then they said, we're going to feed the world. And we're the United States of America. We have won and we're going to show everybody. It was part of battling Russia and communism. It's like, we do need to sustain our communities and we need to help out the rest of the world. Great, let's do it, right? Well, they have failed. And how they have failed is that by doing that and by doing this high production model of monocropping our food, they've basically destroyed our soil to where we have to genetically modify our seeds more. We have to use new chemicals to make those plants grow. And we can't rely on the soil like we did from the beginning.

• 30:30Anthony Pompliano?

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• 31:14Anthony Pompliano?

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• 31:59Anthony Pompliano?

  in terms of time, but also the output could be more from an actual aggregate amount. And so if we're getting more harvest in terms of frequency and larger harvest each time, obviously that seems amazing, right? There's more food, it's more plentiful, all this stuff. But it didn't stop there. And then this is where we get, okay, well, if we put fertilizer, we get, you know, X amount of improvement. What if we then start to try to address quote-unquote problems? So this is where the pesticides and herbicides come in. Explain a little bit more in terms of, what was the original thought process behind introducing those? And then what is, you know, kind of with hindsight bias on our side, like what is the analysis as to whether those have been good or bad? Or what is the impact there?

• 32:44Speaker 02

  Well, you're asking probably, you're asking the right person, but you know, I look, I've known a lot of people in agricultural business and the dependency is of those chemicals in which we have stewarded our land, our farms, our ranchers, it's some evil bullshit. It didn't start out being that way, but throughout time, you've, you've got, you know, chemical companies that basically, you know, invented Agent Orange that are actually, that invented Roundup, which is glyphosate. And so you use glyphosate and you do studies on glyphosate and you look at, you know, the chemical companies that basically engineered glyphosate. Well,

• 33:27Speaker 02

  guess what? It's poison to humans, it's poison to the ground, it's poison. And by saying that, the chemical companies in the beginning, once again, they were something that was beneficial. But now you look at how they have changed and how they've leveraged into everything that we touch, you know, throughout the last 50 years, it's greed, 100%. And they basically take the understanding and the clarity of how we got here, the source of the seed of how we got here, they now own. It's a power play. You know, I wrote The Harvest of Deception, that first article that I wrote, and you really break down, where does the seed come from? Where did it come from in the past? And where is it

• 34:11Speaker 02

  now? Well, basically, our seed is not the heirloom seed anymore. It is a genetically modified seed that basically the grain companies and the chemical companies own and possess.

• 34:23Anthony Pompliano?

  I want to understand this better because in this piece, you specifically talk about something called a rape seed, I think it's called. And from my understanding is that's what was used for, you know, decades and decades, if not centuries. And at some point it gets banned.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  1956 by the FDA for human consumption.

• 34:42Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay. And now we have these genetically modified versions. Describe a little bit in terms of what are the differences between the seeds and why did the FDA step in and actually say, hey, the seed that we've been using for so long, no longer is allowed for human consumption.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  Okay, the rape seed, let's uh, everybody should know rape seed is, it's a freaking weed, but guess what it is? It's canola oil. That's what we call canola oil is rape seed. 1956, FDA outlawed it because it was toxic to human consumption. Well, once again, we get into modifying a seed that creates business, that creates profits, profits. Okay, then, and once we've modified that seed into something, well, what are we trying to get rid of here? As far as, you know, big ag, the, the grain companies, well, they're not using the grass to basically steward animals. What they're doing is now we can, we can grow these grains in a way that we can actually, you know, use to feed

• 35:42Speaker 02

  these cattle, right? And so what you do is you get a chemical company that basically goes in there and lobbies to say, hey, we need to get rid of animal fats out of our diets. And it goes back to a story of 1954 when Eisenhower had a heart attack. Heart attacks really didn't happen, but they needed to find the vic, uh, the, the, the cause of, you know, heart disease. We had a guy named Ansel Keys, and he came out and he created a big study. And it's, it's basically, it was a, it was a bureaucratic kind of, um, uh, an attempt to influence lobbyists and politicians. And so they really started saying that animal fat was bad for you. Okay, if animal fat is gonna cause heart disease and

• 36:27Speaker 02

  clog your arteries, we have to have a solution. And so they looked at vegetable oil and they said, okay, well, how can we make this vegetable? Well, rape seed grows very easily. It's kind of a weed, but it's kind of toxic. Let's take out the uric acid. Okay, let's industrialize this seed in a way to where we can make it to where, yeah, it can run oil, it can be the oil in your car, or you can fry your french fries with it. And that's what we've accomplished. And so now that you had the big seed oil movement that's really, really started taking off, once again, 1971, we devalued our dollar as a way that we could devalue our food by injecting a new Fake commodity into our consumption and it has a lot of varieties in which it can be

• 37:12Speaker 02

  used. One of it is that can inject it in candy bars, crackers, hamburger meat, the bonds of a hamburger. So now it's becoming a commodity that is subsidized by the United States government. And so a lot of farmers will go in there and basically farm rape seed so they can stay in business.

• 37:34Anthony Pompliano?

  So what happened is the seed itself was a natural thing that had been used forever. And then we decided to still use a type of it. It's just one that we have genetically modified.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:45Anthony Pompliano?

  And rather than it stay in kind of its little corner of the world in terms of its uses, we essentially have exported in some way to the entire economy. And so much of our food now actually contains all of these oils. And that's how we cook food. That's how we treat certain things. I believe that it's even found in various other types of products that use on a day to day basis. And so when you go and you look at that, how much of those types of changes around the genetically modified seeds and the grain that is actually fed to the animals is then linked to where we started earlier with 45% of Americans are obese and 70 plus percent are overweight. Is there like a direct connection

• 38:29Anthony Pompliano?

  between literally the food you're consuming is because we've genetically modified all this stuff?

• 38:34Speaker 02

  You bet. 100%. And it's foolproof. Now you can especially, you know, I always refer to Bitcoin and Twitter, you know, there's a lot of researchers in there and they, you know, you'll see these pictures of people on the beach in 1969 and 1970. Everybody's fit. Everybody is healthy. Everybody's just, I mean, really collectively as a group of people, you can see a society that was basically healthy. And at that time, we had animal fats, we had pure animal protein, we had access, market access to a different food system. In the seventies, if you look at the seventies, it's a lot like what we're going through now. You had an economy crash. We had gas shortages, you know, you had a lot of prohibition against

• 39:17Speaker 02

  Things well at that same time is when we did invest into this new fake commodity system. If you look at 1971, the health of a nation and you look at the amount of let's say seed oils that have been injected with high fructose corn syrup, highly processed foods, basically into our consumption. You can look at our health and the devaluation of our dollar and the amount of fake commodities injected into our food supply. It's the same damn chart.

• 39:47Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah.

• 39:47Speaker 02

  And you can really, you don't, it's hard to question. It's hard to say, no, it's not. And you know, you brought it up with, you know, 70, over 70% of Americans being obese and overweight, diabetic, metabolic bankruptcy is what we've got. It's only a 50 year window. We weren't like that before 1971.

• 40:07Anthony Pompliano?

  And when we look at this, you've mentioned fake commodity a couple of times. And what's so fascinating about it is in some ways, people may actually understand, hey, I'm eating something that is fake, right? If you go and you buy a candy bar or something, and it's obvious that that did not grow in the ground. Somebody somewhere along the way made that. Tastes great, but probably not healthy for you. And so I categorize some food as just like, it's very obvious that this is manufactured, processed, all that. But there is a large portion of the population who actually believes that they are eating quote, quote, healthy. But what you're really uncovering here is you may be eating some sort of beef, but it could have come from an animal that was eating genetically modified

• 40:50Anthony Pompliano?

  seeds. And do people know that? Or is there any way for them, if I go to the store and I look at the beef that I'm about to buy, do they have a big label on it that says, hey, this animal was fed genetically modified seeds?

• 41:03Speaker 02

  No, and that's what's happened, you know, especially with the labeling laws and how the FDA basically is a gatekeeper to chemicals that are injected into our food supplies. And I'll do on two touchpoints. And I think you and I talked about this earlier is, you know, October of 21 last year, basically the FDA won a lawsuit and it's under the gross rule, generally recognized as safe. That's what they use and they leverage. What that means is that the FDA can say, hey, you know, we've got these chemicals that we use in the science of food. You know, they love to use the word food science. And so in October of last year, they won a lawsuit where they can inject thousands of

• 41:45Speaker 02

  new chemicals into our food under the gross rule and they don't have to tell us what it is. And so labeling laws, of course, we talked about GMO. Well, we've all seen it. We've all, you know, it's always there genetically modified, right? That's what that means. Well, now they've even changed genetically modified to bioengineered and it's a barcode on your food packaging.

• 42:08Anthony Pompliano?

  So now they won't actually put the GMO label on it. They instead will

• 42:12Speaker 02

  Bioengineered.

• 42:13Anthony Pompliano?

  You have to go actually scan the barcode.

• 42:16Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 42:17Anthony Pompliano?

  With like your cell phone or something? And if you, and if you scan the barcode with your, like an app on your phone,

• 42:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:22Anthony Pompliano?

  then it will tell you that it's been genetically modified.

• 42:24Speaker 02

  It'll be bioengineered. They're going to, they're really kicking in the bioengineering.

• 42:29Anthony Pompliano?

  Sounds cooler.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  It does. Yeah, it's very scientific. And so, but you look at that, okay? And that happened at the same time, fall of 2021, the labeling laws changed and the FDA says, sure, go ahead and put 2,000 new chemicals into the food supply in 2022.

• 42:47Anthony Pompliano?

  You mentioned the generally

• 42:49Speaker 02

  Recognized as safe.

• 42:51Anthony Pompliano?

  As safe. Nothing is general when it comes to regulation.

• 42:55Speaker 02

  Man, that's clown world stuff, man.

• 42:56Anthony Pompliano?

  Yes. So explain a little bit more. What is the intention of this regulation?

• 43:02Speaker 02

  I think it's so they can confuse the consumer, man. Why else would they want? And they can inject, you think about each chemical that they get to put into our food supply. Okay, now let's break that down as those touch points that we talked about the cattle. That's massive profit on a global scale that they get to inject and you become the recycling bin of that, basically of that chemical that they get to put in there. And that chemical could be all kinds of different things. Nanotechnology, particles, who knows what it is anymore? But by saying that each chemical is Is basically making profits. It has a budget. It has a plan, you know? And that's how each one of those chemicals, if we are the recycling bin of those chemicals,

• 43:48Speaker 02

  it's foolproof. Why wouldn't they do it? It's business. It's big global business, man. We're talking about profits here. We're not talking about nutritional value. That's out the door because Americans don't care about nutritional value. And if they do, eating their best intentions is not going to get them to health because it's basically a hamster wheel of people chasing health anymore. And you have to go deeper. You have to get into a level of food intelligence that actually has to be more intentional and it can't be random anymore.

• 44:20Anthony Pompliano?

  So if I go to the grocery store, can I eat food from there?

• 44:25Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 44:25Anthony Pompliano?

  That is not genetically modified?

• 44:27Speaker 02

  You can.

• 44:28Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  But what I usually tell people, and I think a lot of people hear it, don't shop in the inside aisles. That's where you should not be because that's where most of the processed food lies. Shop on the corners, shop on the outside walls where you have your meats.

• 44:43Anthony Pompliano?

  Fruits, vegetables, meats.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  Vegetables and meats in your dairies and whatever. But you know, I don't, very little of my consumption comes from the supermarkets anymore. But I've been doing this for a while and how I was raised is I don't like. You go into a supermarket now, it looks like a cartoon world. Think about that. Go walk up and go film it and then go back and watch the film as you walk down the aisles. How many colors? How many animation pictures do you see? How much manipulation is being fed into your brains like, oh, heart healthy. And it's got a, you know, a wonderful picture and somebody's very happy and in peace. And you know, think about the manipulation that goes on with marketing, advertising, injecting chemicals into your food supply.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  And you are the person who gets to recycle every bit of it from audio to video to the food itself. You are the test subject and they make you feel good about it because it tastes good.

• 45:37Anthony Pompliano?

  I'm actually shocked that cancel culture made its way into the grocery store.

• 45:40Speaker 02

  I'm too.

• 45:41Anthony Pompliano?

  And they started to cancel some people who were on the boxes.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  Right.

• 45:45Anthony Pompliano?

  But that happened. So you go to the grocery store. I think a lot of people here say, all right, cool.

• 45:51Speaker 02

  I got it. I went last night.

• 45:52Anthony Pompliano?

  Food system's screwed up.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:54Anthony Pompliano?

  What do you do when you go? You shop around the edges of the grocery store? You avoid the middle? What does a normal diet look like? Like, when you say that, hey, I'm not going to give health advice, right? Everyone, everybody is different. But how do you think about putting body, food in your body when you're traveling and not at home?

• 46:10Speaker 02

  Right. I look, the source of the seed of my nutrition is pure animal protein. It's that simple. But, you know, I'm, that's how I was raised. We were raised with, we had a freezer full of beef. At any time, you had market access to that beef. Five years old, I'm cooking hamburgers from a local rancher, right? Or from grandfather, whatever. And so that is the source of the seed of basically how I look at food right now, especially in the United States of America. It's like, yesterday I went and I got in, flew in, and then I went to Publix, which, you know, it's, it's, it's a good store. You know, there's, there's a lot of things that are good about it, and there's a lot of things that are bad. I went straight to the meat section, bought some hamburger meat, grass fed.

• 46:55Speaker 02

  I know it probably, probably isn't grass fed, but it's as close to it as I can find.

• 47:01Anthony Pompliano?

  Got it.

• 47:01Speaker 02

  So it's not a black and white issue here. There's so much gray. And so I buy that beef, bought a steak, bought hamburgers. I went to the beachfront. I cooked a steak and hamburgers. I ate the hamburgers last night. Took me less than 30 minutes. Same amount of time as people sit in the freaking drive thru at McDonald's. And here, I ate burgers last night and I had a steak for breakfast. I won't have to eat again, probably until late tonight if I, if I don't want to. By eliminating all of my, I think that I have all these options. I don't give myself options.

• 47:37Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. And so when you go and you're looking at kind of the meat counter, if you will, right? And they say, hey, what do you want?

• 47:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 47:44Anthony Pompliano?

  Are there things that you will avoid in, in there? In terms of selecting the meat at the grocery store? And things that you will go, so you mentioned grass fed. But like, almost give people like, what's the framework, right? If they're going to go and they're going to get meat at the grocery store? What should they be thinking about? And what are the things that they should avoid?

• 47:59Speaker 02

  One thing, you know, you used to, you could go to and you'd, they'd have a butcher, right? Well, those don't, you know, that, that, that doesn't exist. And so a lot of grocery stores won't even know where the beef comes from. They, they can't tell you because they actually, they have that, you know, that wholesale market that I talked about earlier. So you don't really know, the butchers don't know. And so I don't eat supermarket beef, but I know a lot of people have to. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to pay a little extra for it because that's one thing that you should, you know, if you're going to use that retail market through a supermarket, you should basically look for the grass fed, look for the organic because it's, it's better than that crap beef that they, they're probably

• 48:41Speaker 02

  giving you. And that crap beef, like I said, it could be from Africa, it could be from Brazil, it can be from Texas, but you're not going to know. And the people that are basically selling you, they're not going to know either. And so if you can eliminate some of those deceptions, then just drill down as close as you can and you, you're going to be okay. As you're doing that, you have to be very intentional about creating a new market access of how to get your pure animal protein. That's where you start. Pure animal protein and pure produce. And that's what the Beef Initiative is accomplishing.

• 49:15Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. Before we get to eliminating the grocery store from, from kind of the supply chain, when, when you go and you buy, if you have to, you're traveling or something, right? When you cook it on a grill, do you put anything on it? Like what is the treatment from, you purchased it till it goes in your mouth, right? What, what are you doing to the actual?

• 49:34Speaker 02

  I forgot to bring up that I, I do make my own butter, but whenever I'm at the grocery store, I'll get the best grass fed butter that I can find. So you look at butter and you're like, really? Well, I don't cook with oil. I cook with tallow and I use butter. So I'll cook, whenever I'm traveling across the United States in my pickup truck, which I will go to that a little bit later, I carry a cast iron skillet with me and I'll, I'll use it wherever I can. And I just put salt and pepper and freaking butter on a steak and I cook it and I eat it and it's better than any freaking steakhouse that you You can find.

• 50:10Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah.

• 50:11Speaker 02

  And if you're already the consumer, man, you just flames, you know, whatever you have.

• 50:15Anthony Pompliano?

  Of course. And for your diet specifically, are you one of these folks who just eats meat? Like the true kind of hardcore carnivore diet?

• 50:25Speaker 02

  I'm not a hundred percent carnivore, no.

• 50:26Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay. Are you eating ice cream and Snickers bars as well?

• 50:29Speaker 02

  Sometimes I'll freaking grab a snack. Hell, yeah.

• 50:32Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. So what does your diet look like in kind of on an average day? Are you eating other vegetables and fruits? Like, what does that look like?

• 50:39Speaker 02

  I used to quite often. If I eat anything in abundance beyond, you know, pure animal, I'll eat bacon and eggs all the time. You know, I was on the plane yesterday and I made a homemade breakfast taco. I brought that thing out and everybody started sniffing and looking around on the airplane. I was cracking up. So, you know, those are those moments that are fun. But, you know, I eat a lot of fruit. You know, I'll definitely eat some fruit. I love, you know, avocados and stuff like that. I just keep it simple. And once you start really making your diet more simple like that, you understand that you don't need all these other, like different types of varieties of nutritional delivery to your system.

• 51:18Speaker 02

  If you break down beef and especially grass fed, grass finished, or even organic grain finished beef, because we do both in the Beef Initiative, you're going to find out there's nothing that matches up as far as the vitamins, the minerals and the true nutritional delivery to your system. There's nothing else in the world that we can have access to now on a larger scale that is better for you than pure animal protein. So what you do is, once you understand that, you really do eliminate a lot of the options that are nefarious at certain times, or they're just not needed. You're just making profit for somebody because you're the recycling bin.

• 51:58Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. The recycling bin is such a good way to describe it because no one wants to be the recycling bin, right? I would actually argue that you should use trash bin because that elicits even more of an emotional response.

• 52:08Speaker 02

  People get kind of butt hurt. So I have to ease into it.

• 52:12Anthony Pompliano?

  So you mentioned earlier about going closer to the source, right? And we mentioned in the beginning that you've got the rancher, who's then got the processor, who's got the supplier, who's got the grocery store. You actually try to cut out quite a bit of that supply chain. So describe a little bit, when you're at home, what do you do to get kind of the healthiest beef that you feel the most confident in terms of, I know where this is coming from?

• 52:36Speaker 02

  Sure. What I did in the very beginning, you know, I wrote the, I got into food intelligence. I told you, I've been doing this for about three years. And so after, you know, I got off, I embedded myself in a harvest company last year. So I needed to go across the Midwest. I started in Texas, all the way to the border of Canada, all the way back to Texas and going and researching grain companies, doing the harvest and seeing where we were, right? When I got back to Texas, I said, I know what I need to do. Here we go. So I went up and I shook a rancher's hand. And in my local community, in which I kind of stayed where I grew up, one of my home bases now, went up and shook his hand. And basically I said, let's have a, tell me why you do what you do. Teach me. I want to know what you're doing. And he was the same place. He came from the same soil.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  And so we developed a relationship. By saying that, you know, that's whenever the Beef Initiative cooked off. So and whenever I'm in that part, it is Canyon, Texas. It's in the Texas Panhandle. Well, his name is Justin Trammell. He owns Panhandle Meats. And what Panhandle Meats is, is he's his own producer. He's an animal producer of fowl, hog and beef. Okay. So now, within this year, 2022, he opened up his own micro processing center. So he is feeding the community. So anytime I need anything, I say, hey, Justin, I need a side of beef. I need a half a cow. I need a quarter of a cow. Okay. Well, also I need some hog. I need some bacon. I need some sausage. You got any chickens?

• 54:05Speaker 02

  So the first touch point that I do as far as basically acquiring my food is I talk to that rancher and then everything else. Spawns off from there.

• 54:18Anthony Pompliano?

  I've heard you say shake a rancher's hand a couple of times over the last couple of months. What exactly does that mean in terms of the importance of it? And what are you trying to get out of that interaction?

• 54:28Speaker 02

  Well, and that was the story of Justin Trammell. Let me go into segue into Cole Walton of K and C Cattle down there, south of Austin. Okay, he's the number one supplier of our beef right now. What I did is I did a lot of phone calls, not a lot, probably two or three. And, you know, everybody's pretty much suspect of me in the beginning because there's so much corruption and manipulation. These ranchers want to be left alone. They want to steward the land and they want to steward the animals. Well, once I went up there and Cole invited me out to his ranch. And what I did, because he's from Texas, he's a Texas cowboy. I'm a Texas cowboy. He's generational, I'm generational. And there's something there to be said about having that respect and that level of understanding

• 55:12Speaker 02

  of how you approach another person. And how we were raised is you better go up and look somebody in the eye and you better shake their damn hand. And you better establish a communication system that you too understand. And if you can do that now as an individual in this nation, in this world right now, it's a power move back into a new form of communication that we've lost. So the validity and the importance and the value of, you know, because I always talk, whenever I was in big tech, I got decided to do a study. It was the study of the division of interpersonal communication. And what technology was going to do to that interpersonal communication. And I did a lot of research on certain universities and what were they predicting with texting,

• 55:57Speaker 02

  emailing? And now look where we are. So the division of interpersonal communication is a pandemic and epidemic within itself, within the United States and the world, because it's leveraged against us now. Our digital world is not.

• 56:14Speaker 02

  Sometimes it has a lot of deception in it, right?

• 56:16Anthony Pompliano?

  A hundred percent.

• 56:17Speaker 02

  Right. And so if we can have that understanding that basically relationship building is the most important thing that you can do in your life right now, it starts with that handshake. And with Cole Bolton, it started with a handshake and it taught you two guys from Texas that have respect for each other and where we come from, where our ancestors come from. And if, if people will look at that and look at the true value of that, where is the store of value of that? Well, it's a lifelong relationship now that we're using to leverage to feed people, basically give them market access to a new lifestyle and a new consumption model that is based on health.

• 56:55Anthony Pompliano?

  And when you mentioned market access, obviously the grocery store controls the market access because whatever they go and they are able to get from their suppliers, they're putting in the store, and that's the only access you have is to whatever they're selling, if you're kind of the average person. By going directly to the rancher themselves and kind of cutting out the grocery store, maybe even the suppliers or whoever, you're drastically increasing your market access to what you want because you're able to talk directly to them.

• 57:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:21Anthony Pompliano?

  Talk a little bit more about what you and Cole are doing in terms of trying to bring, one, education, but also two, you know, healthier beef to, to millions of people.

• 57:30Speaker 02

  Sure. And to kind of give credit to where credit is due right here, we have Justin, and we have a lot of ranchers now that come through the Beef Nish, but there was three major ranchers that stepped up and saw that what I was trying to do and wanted to get on board. One of those was Jason Rick of Rick Ranches, and we just had a conference out in Colorado at his ranch. What he talked about, and it was, it was the same day, I talked to all three of those guys, and every one of them said a vertical integration. Well, what do you mean by that? And you heard me earlier say, vertical integration back into human health is a vertical integration back into a decentralized food system. What does that mean? Well, it starts with the soil, that's the source. You start with the soil,

• 58:13Speaker 02

  then the grass, then the cow, then the producer rancher, animal producer, then the processor. Okay, well Cole and I and Jason and Justin. Every one of us have a decentralized market access through that processing center. Once that animal is produced, processed, and ready to be delivered to you and me, well, we don't have to have permission. Now, we are the ones that are saying, we get to sell that beef to you, and we get to sell it to you, and you, and you.

• 58:44Anthony Pompliano?

  It's like a direct-to-consumer product in the technology world. You're basically going direct to consumer with healthy beef.

• 58:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, and a lot of people have tried it, and they haven't had much luck with it.

• 58:53Anthony Pompliano?

  Why not?

• 58:54Speaker 02

  Well, I think it's too centralized. And, you know, we're in Bitcoin, the reason one of the most strongest, and I think overlooked, aspects of Bitcoin is the decentralized mindset. Okay, I come from networking, computer networking, that's how I got started in technology. Decentralization right now is the most important power move that you can have. And so whenever you can actually get the best nutrition that is out there in the world right now in a decentralized way, that is actually the lifestyle. That is the power move that you're looking for. And so whenever you create a vertical integration that is decentralized,

• 59:35Speaker 02

  where you don't have to ask for permission anymore, then basically you're gonna have success. If you have a centralized type of system that's not a vertical integration, it's a linear integration, then you're gonna have too many people making decisions, and you're gonna have to ask permission from each one of those. Is that permission from, you know, as far as, you know, farm to table, like we said? You know, is that gonna be controlled by a chemical company? Is it gonna be controlled by a processing company? Is it gonna be controlled by a distribution company? Is it gonna be controlled by a supermarket? Is it gonna be controlled by a health department? Is it gonna be controlled? Every one of those, you have to battle through and say, well, that's not very easy.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  So that's why it hasn't been successful, because they haven't been able to decentralize the market access, that vertical integration.

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• 1:01:09Anthony Pompliano?

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• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  I've been working for two years now and looking deep into it. In the state of Texas, we have over 200 processing centers, as I said, micro-processing centers, not the big giant processing centers, the smaller ones. And what they're not complex. Really, what they are is a lot of it's freezer space. You have a harvest chute, then you have a processing chute, then you basically package the animal, and then, of course, you freeze. One thing that you, I didn't say right there, is aging the beef. So you have sections, okay, in a processing center.

• 1:02:21Anthony Pompliano?

  And just to be super granular, and I apologize to anyone who doesn't want the kind of the ground truth, if you will, animal shows up, it's alive. The animal is held there for some period of time, could be A short period or a long period.

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:02:36Anthony Pompliano?

  The animal is slaughtered, the animal is then cut up.

• 1:02:39Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:02:40Anthony Pompliano?

  The animal is then potentially aged.

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  It's aged first before it's cut up.

• 1:02:44Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay, so if the animal is slaughtered and going to be aged, it will then just sit there. It then is cut up and then packaged and frozen.

• 1:02:52Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:02:53Anthony Pompliano?

  And then waits to be delivered to whether it is the supplier or in this case, direct to the.

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  Eighty percent right now, it's wholesale, so it's, we don't have any control over that. But yeah, you, you sum it up, you basically in, in, within our model of decentralized market access and the vertical integration. Let's talk about feedlot, you know, feedlot factory farming is what it's called. Well, those thousands of cattle are stacked usually on top of each other. Well, see, that's the process.

• 1:03:19Anthony Pompliano?

  And again, this is me being super dumb.

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  No, no, we need to be.

• 1:03:23Anthony Pompliano?

  Alive or dead?

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  Alive.

• 1:03:25Anthony Pompliano?

  Alive, okay, so they're stacked on top of each other when they're alive.

• 1:03:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, they become, they call fat cows.

• 1:03:29Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 1:03:30Speaker 02

  And so you take them to a fat cow, you know, wait, because that, you know, that's where the money is, a fat cow.

• 1:03:35Anthony Pompliano?

  The more meat they have, the more money you're gonna make.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  But see, the, the producer and the rancher is not making that money. It's the processing centers. And so right there, but if you go through something like ours, you say, well, the cow shows up and then hangs out there a long time or no. In a regenerative decentralized way, and what's what we're doing within the beef initiative and each one of these ranchers and many more. And that people don't realize is that cow has the best life that you could hope for. It is stewardage from a calf all the way to that day that is going to basically be harvested. Well, it shows up, it might be there a day or two, but it doesn't know anything because they change pastures all the time because they're doing rotational grazing. So that cow shows up to be harvested, it's not a big thing, it's not stressed because you don't want to stress out a cow.

• 1:04:22Speaker 02

  Because you, you get these cows that are supermarket beef. Lot of times they're extremely stressed and whenever you have that adrenaline rush at the time that they're harvested. It tastes the beef and that's another thing.

• 1:04:34Anthony Pompliano?

  This blows my mind, right, which is, we know in humans, if we had a child psychological development, like a psychologist.

• 1:04:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:04:44Anthony Pompliano?

  On recently and she talked about, look, if the mother is super stressed out during pregnancy, there are physiological changes that occur in the child. If a child's mother during pregnancy is addicted to meth, there's physiological changes to the child. And so when we know that in humans, this idea, I think sometimes gets almost like mocked of like, what do you mean if the cow is stressed out? Why would it not change? The physiological structure of the cow if it is stressed, if it has high adrenaline, if it has whatever, and then you're going to take that animal and put in your body?

• 1:05:24Anthony Pompliano?

  And so I don't see any labels of like chill cow, stressed cow at the grocery store. And so when you talk about this, is this an intentional thing? Or is it just something that we've noticed where in certain processing centers, the cows are super stressed out and in other ones they're not?

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's been a cause and effect type thing, right? You know, as we, as we grew in size and capacity to be able to, you know, to raise millions and millions and millions of cattle on the commodity side of things, as far as commodity grains, well, you gotta have a, you know, a match system. It's like, okay, we're bringing, you know, there's processing centers that will harvest 3,000 cattle in a day. Okay, you look at that type of capacity, well, they're just on an assembly line. And that's what everybody hates. That's what the vegans hate, that's what the vegetarians hate. It's, you know, the globalists pointed out, it's like, oh, this is horrible. And it is, it's destructive. It's not all like that. There's a lot of different, you know, once again, we can't generalize.

• 1:06:24Speaker 02

  But to basically, if you have the awareness that that type of stuff is true and valid, it's something that is, is known to happen as far as on the, on the bad side of that stressing and affecting the psychological.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  Well being of that animal does matter 100% just like it does in humans. And so if you look at that and you take ownership that that is true and factual, then you can look at the type of animal producers that that's what they live for. They want that animal to have the best life that it can. And then they want to honor that animal to turn it into a new form of energy. Okay, the commodity cowboy route. It's not that the commodity cowboys are making that a bad stressful thing for the for the cow. It's not them. It's the processors, it's the global guys that are basically if that meat is tainted with adrenaline, it's psychological damage at time of harvesting.

• 1:07:23Speaker 02

  It's not the producers, it's the global processors.

• 1:07:28Anthony Pompliano?

  And so when we think about kind of these microprocessors, how much money did it cost to build one of these things?

• 1:07:34Speaker 02

  Well, it's, I'm glad you bring that up because I've been holding it back as far as what's another, I always work in solutions. And so we're announcing probably within two weeks that we're going to have the Beef Initiative Association Council. What that is, is we've looked at the microprocessors in the state of Texas. And we want to have a, and this is, this is ambitious, but we want to have a microprocessor in every county in the state of Texas, just like my grandfather did. And just like Justin's grandfather did, just like Cole's grandfather did. Justin's opened up his, he does about 30 cattle a week. He feeds the community.

• 1:08:12Anthony Pompliano?

  How many people could 30 cattle feed, you know, in a week?

• 1:08:15Speaker 02

  You know, it's not that much. That that goes to show you that there's not competition here. But he feeds everybody. He is making a dang good living now. He has a pillar of strength on a monetary system that he never had. So he is full at capacity at all times. He is producing and feeding everybody that he wants. Okay, well, there's going to be another Justin pop up. Well, let's look at Cole. He's now opening up his processing center south of Austin. He's going to be about 250 cattle a week. So his reach is a little bit more. And he's going to go a little bit more regional from his community. That's his. Number one goal, but now within the beef initiative, we're actually right now because

• 1:08:56Speaker 02

  we're stepping up, our volume is increasing tenfold. We can ship beef right now across 48 states and we've been doing that now since January. We just haven't advertised it because we wanted to make sure we had a base layer foundational level. So going back to the question, Justin, back in the day, whenever he did it, under a million dollars. Cole's going to be, you know, the size of how much you're going to process these days and times. It's, it's, you know, it's hard to say because of inflation, but it's not that hard to accomplish on the big scale of things. A micro processing center, the, the amount of costs and the amount of return

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  that you get as far as community building, a pillar of strength in monetary, it's a damn good move. And so what we're going to do, we're going to go, we have USDA precedence now within beef initiative is in processing centers. You can come to us, we will advise you from the ground up all the way to your last inspection within the state in which we're going to do Texas first to where you're pretty sure you have a rubber stamp that you can make this happen. We look at your capital expenditures, we look what you have as far as investments, we look at your geography, what you're going to do, we look at the type of market access that you're going to create in your community. We get all that built in. And in that way, whenever we consult you, that you're going to know that you're pretty much in the right direction and

• 1:10:21Speaker 02

  that you can actually, you know, start really changing the, changing the game here because it does start with the processing centers.

• 1:10:29Anthony Pompliano?

  So if we go to the four large ones, I started Googling around and frankly, my mind was blown. And the reason I started to Google was because in one of your pieces, you wrote two things that caught my attention. The first was most of them are owned by families, have owned them for long periods of time. And the second was you made a comment that I think it was Cargill has so much technology and intelligence that it rivals the CIA. Let's start with the families first, which is good or bad that the same families have controlled these and been able to consolidate so. Much of it. And is it if it's bad, is it that the families are bad or is it that it's just been consolidated?

• 1:11:07Speaker 02

  Well, I'll tell you what, I mean, we'll look at Cargill and it's not the smartest thing to do to talk crap on Cargill. So I don't, I just kind of point out what it is. I mean, it's, it's definitely families that have been close to the money since the very beginning of us really, you know, being around money. They go way back. They have a history. And what they do now is they have the capacity to be able to control basically shipping lanes. They have, you know, they have their barges, they have everything from the very beginning of that seed to the very end of that seed. They control and they control it on a global front. Well, to have that much control over the, the seed itself

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  is basically, it takes an intelligence apparatus. They do have basically 7,000 people that work for them and they mirror the CIA as far as intelligence, you know, they do have satellites. They do basically look at things. They innovate with technology in way that big money can being that close to money that they can do is very centralized. It's very hush, hush. And, you know, a lot of it's very good. A lot of it's, you know, they, they basically, but for that one family to control the access to the seeds of humanity, that's a little ridiculous. And if you put it in perspective, there's no way in hell that should happen, but they always came up with reasons why

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  they are the stewards of the seed of the world. No, it shouldn't be that way. You look at all the seeds like we had in America. A lot of our heirloom seeds now are under lock and key and we don't have access to those seeds anymore. What we have access is to genetically modified seeds, which are controlled by these families.

• 1:12:51Anthony Pompliano?

  What is fascinating to me is that he who owns the seed, right, or the supply of the seed has so much power seems like, that's kind of crazy. This has been going on for centuries. If you go back to ancient Rome, I think it's Commodus was the emperor of Rome at the time, Marcus Aurelius's son. And if I remember the story correctly, one of his advisors or kind of his close friends, he essentially said, hey, you're going to be in charge for a while and I'm just going to go and, you know, screw off essentially. And let me know if anything goes wrong. And one of the things that that advisor did was he actually manipulated the supply

• 1:13:33Anthony Pompliano?

  of grain to the city of Rome and his goal or his plan was to essentially create near famine and then to step in and essentially re-release the grain supply back to the people and be the hero.

• 1:13:48Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:13:49Anthony Pompliano?

  Now, for those that know nothing about ancient Rome, a lot of the grain came from Egypt and would come over. And so he was essentially diverting, once it got to what is now known as Italy, into his own personal warehouses and kind of all this stuff, right? That was crazy to look back and say, what do you mean? One guy could basically divert the entire grain supply of a city, bring them to near famine. And obviously what happened is he screwed it up because he was an idiot. And literally, people were starving in the streets and there was uprising and social unrest and all these different things. And finally, the emperor woke up and was like, hey, maybe I should, you know, step in here and do my job. That is A.D., right? Here we are in 2022, talking about the same damn thing of like, who controls the

• 1:14:34Anthony Pompliano?

  supply of grain?

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:14:35Anthony Pompliano?

  Which is crazy to me.

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  It is. And you look at, I'm glad you point that out. I mean, I did a piece and I called it, Let the Poor Court the Rich. And I took sections of, you know, City of God out of it. And I quoted, and a lot of people didn't know that I was quoting from the City of God because it reads as of today. And you go, whoa, what? That was 2,000 years ago? You know, you look at the City of God and what it was, you know, it was a control of food consumption back then. As far as people know about Rome, you know, a lot of, a lot of their agriculture was because of their, you know, their soldiers, their warriors, and they would go off. And so throughout time, their food supply basically got diminished and their nutritional value as a society depleted.

• 1:15:21Speaker 02

  And that was always, like you just pointed out, by their rulers. And so you look at, who are our rulers now? Well, it's the, basically, the people that control the access, the source of the seed itself, is the ones that we actually are answering to. We're answering to them in ways that we have no clue about. And they're able to, you know, really control the narrative, the, the, the delivery of content. You know, the consumption model of your audio, your video and the food itself. And that's what we have to go and, you know, it, we can't be surface level understanding of what food is anymore. And understanding history, just as you pointed out very well, and understanding how we can circumvent around that type of control.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  It's like, we don't have to really dissect it forever. What we have to do is to just be aware of it and say, I'm not going to play that game anymore. I don't have to. And that's, you know, what we're doing within the beef initiative. We're just circumventing around it.

• 1:16:18Anthony Pompliano?

  So your approach is to essentially say, I cannot change the GMO kind of ESG argument. And so let's route around it.

• 1:16:27Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:16:28Anthony Pompliano?

  There are other countries, specifically in Europe, it seems like is probably where this has taken a kind of hold the most. Where as a country, whether it's from the leadership or it is from the population, they have just rejected this GMO. Kind of entire movement to some degree, all the way to the point where, I, I know France has a GMO cultivation ban.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:52Anthony Pompliano?

  Talk a little bit about what is going on in Europe with kind of this genetically modified kind of bans to some degree.

• 1:16:59Speaker 02

  Well, we'll start with the American public.

• 1:17:02Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 1:17:02Speaker 02

  We've always been the guinea pig for this big global, you know, industrial food industry, right? And so when GMOs first came out, you know, Europe totally collectively, they said, screw you guys, man. We're not consuming this crap. You know, I've been around the world, you've been around the world, you know? We've seen different places and the type of foods that you can eat, you know, especially packaged and processed food. Well, Europe's always been very good about pushing back, you know, France has always kind of led that as well. The Netherlands, you know, they, they do as much as they can. A lot of people don't realize that the Netherlands creates second largest amount of produce in the world. So they, you know, export a lot of food out of there. Well, they've stayed closer to the seed of nutrition than we have.

• 1:17:46Speaker 02

  And they've done these pushbacks against the genetically modified food. You get it in Europe as a whole, they've done that and they've been very successful up to now. And now people that I talk to, friends I have in the UK, friends I have in Spain, friends I have in Portugal, friends I have in Ireland, friends I have in France, friends I have in, you know, in the Netherlands. They're all saying the same thing now, the pushback is not there anymore and they're flooding with highly processed food. And Europe is seeing something basically that they haven't seen. They're coming on our coattails as far as this metabolic bankruptcy that we're going through. And so the pushback has always been there by Europe and they've done a very good job.

• 1:18:27Speaker 02

  But what we need for us in America and for the Europeans to do, especially the French, because they've led that, let's get back to where we were in this, let's understand what they're planning for us with the land grabs that they're doing in the Netherlands. You know, and the different types of distributions that they're going to establish with this new fake commodity system that they're introducing.

• 1:18:48Anthony Pompliano?

  Is it possible to roll back, uh, kind of how much progress the chemical companies?

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 1:18:53Anthony Pompliano?

  Have made?

• 1:18:54Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 1:18:55Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay, well, how do we do that?

• 1:18:56Speaker 02

  Well, one thing, and this is where we have to become strong individuals, strong minded and strong with our desires. You know, I always ask people, why do you desire what you desire? You know, get, get in front of that accountability mirror and take a look. You all have to do it in certain aspects of our life, you should be doing it. We need to do it with our consumption. Okay, our consumption is basically called a consumer demand. Let's, let's change our consumer demand as an individual. And once we do that, we, we are in control. We just don't give ourselves credit for that. If we create a whole new lifestyle, call the beef initiative, it's international lifestyle that people just don't understand yet. And, and people are starting to understand what I'm talking about.

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  It's like, hey, I have the right, I don't have to ask for permission to eat what I want to eat. But I'm not going to eat something that I'm not educated about. So I'm going to go out there and establish relationships with communities. Wherever you stand is what you have to look at. In Washington State is going to be somebody different in Philadelphia. And what we have to do is get each individual start realizing change of consumer demand and quit looking at food as entertainment. It's actually needs to be very intentional. My grandfather grew his land, consumed his food and consumed those animals and that produce on a survival mindset.

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  Okay, that gave a lot of strength because they knew first and foremost, if I'm not really intentional about how this seed goes from the ground and into my body, then I'm going to deplete my power as an individual. And if people can kind of look at that, it doesn't have to be extreme, but if you can point your consumer demand in a different place, they start paying attention.

• 1:20:44Anthony Pompliano?

  How important is education in terms of, obviously, there's a lot that you said today.

• 1:20:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:49Anthony Pompliano?

  I wasn't taught that in school.

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:20:51Anthony Pompliano?

  You know, unfortunately, most parents, they don't know this information. They weren't taught it in school. Where do you see the sources of education today? And how important would it be if we could even get some of this education into schools or other forms for young people to consume?

• 1:21:07Speaker 02

  Well, and that's a fantastic question. In Canyon, Texas, you know, I live right close to an agricultural university. That's where I grew up. I mean, there's a museum there that I'm going to have a regional food summit based on education. So you look at these institutions and a lot of them still, you know, they steward a lot of great, you know, information. Some intelligence though, and some information and education is backed by these chemical companies and these grain companies. Understanding that, say, okay, well, I want to go learn you, of course, at the university level. But the one thing that I found out with every rancher that I deal with, they don't sell their product. What they do is they educate. And so you go up there and you create that relationship with that rancher.

• 1:21:50Speaker 02

  You want to talk about education that starts from the seed up, you're going to find out everything you want to know. And as the Beef Initiative does grow, we're introducing new channels that you can go out there and get educated. Like I let people. Right for my Substack and they they basically I say, what are you trying to accomplish? What is your why here? And a lot of them are young guys right now that are they're bringing a lot of freaking food intelligence that I I don't have time to provide. So I think collectively, you know, especially within the Bitcoin space and within the ranching space, there's a lot of education moving forward. What I did within the Beef Initiative, and I'm just now really kind of launching it out there is we have a scholarship program.

• 1:22:34Speaker 02

  In Colorado, what we did is Jason Rick of Rick Ranches, he's the one that, you know, I referred to earlier, he basically gets a scholarship in his name now. It's backed by one full Bitcoin and what he gets to do in us collectively as a Beef Initiative, we could start bringing in people that want to be educated in a different way. We want observational science of biology and how land and how the the the animal is stewarded. In that way, that's a new form of education that we're going to start introducing. And if we can kind of organize that in a way that is open sourced, that is crowdfunded and crowdsourced, then the education model kind of changes, that awareness changes.

• 1:23:16Anthony Pompliano?

  When we think about educating the individual as the consumer.

• 1:23:20Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:23:21Anthony Pompliano?

  If we move upstream, I guess a little bit to the grocery stores themselves. Is there any hope in local grocery stores maybe are more receptive than the national grocery stores in terms of, hey, you know, you all are responsible for the food that you are selling to the consumer. If we can change the consumer demand, what if we can change the grocery store demand? Is there anything going on there?

• 1:23:45Speaker 02

  There is. And actually, if you look at the the there's I talked to Cole yesterday and I said, hey, you know, what what should I bring up that's current affairs? State of affairs are right now because that's what the Beef Initiative is. We're the voice of the rancher that's on the ground. And he said, there is some legislation that's moving forward to where it will help us regional processors, the smaller processors, have better direct access and market access to these supermarkets into where we can create a wholesale type of, you know,

• 1:24:17Speaker 02

  Access to the retail side of things.

• 1:24:20Anthony Pompliano?

  So the rancher can basically say, hey, I'm going to set up a microprocessor. And then rather than take my micro, the product from the microprocessor and sell it to the supplier, who then goes sells it to the grocery store.

• 1:24:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:31Anthony Pompliano?

  Similar to Tesla that says, hey, we're going to sell cars, but we're not going to put them in car dealerships. We're going to sell them in our own car dealerships directly to the consumer. Now, all of a sudden, the rancher with a microprocessor can go great to the grocery store, which sounds like that's a win for the end consumer.

• 1:24:49Speaker 02

  It really does.

• 1:24:50Anthony Pompliano?

  But also sounds like maybe there's a little bit of pain there for the suppliers who may not like that.

• 1:24:54Speaker 02

  Well, you know, it's capitalism, right? And what is capitalism truly driven by? Consumer demand. And so looking at that, let's reflect on our summit in Georgia that's coming up in September. That's Will Harris of White Oak Pastures. What he did, he was the first regenerative farmer and rancher to sell grass fed beef to Whole Foods.

• 1:25:15Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 1:25:15Speaker 02

  He created his basically retail wholesale system based on that. So Whole Foods brought him in before Bezos, of course, bought him out and everything. But he created consumer demand for his product by doing exactly what we're talking about. I think that we have the power now and we have maybe some legislation that's going to allow us to do that in a way that we haven't had in the past.

• 1:25:40Anthony Pompliano?

  Explain more what he did. So he went to Whole Foods and said, hey, I'm not a supplier, but I want to sell my product in your stores. Here's a bunch of people who want it. Or how did that work?

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, pretty much what he did, he brought a lot of studies to Whole Foods. Whole Foods, I mean, they're supposed to be the, you know.

• 1:25:57Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, that's a good person to go put some pressure on.

• 1:25:59Speaker 02

  Right. And so what he did is like, hey, this is how we can be a true, you know, nature lover. If you're going to love the earth, then let's, let's look what I do with the earth, what I do with the soil. Well, I use these land tools and they're called cows. And what I do is I basically, I save my ranch by using these land tools, this livestock. Wouldn't you want to be part of that? Here's the studies. Here's how we can regrow. Soil without using chemicals, without using fertilizers, without using pesticides. And so he made a case for being the best beef that Whole Foods should bring on.

• 1:26:38Speaker 02

  And so by him doing that, he did it not in exploitive way, but a very, a good way that got attention. And so therefore, all of a sudden, Whole Foods is, hell yeah, people love this grass fed beef. Let's turn it into a retail, you know, option for our consumers. And then collectively, his current consumers helped drive that consumer demand. And Whole Foods understood that that was the best business move that they could. And right now, you have everybody across the nation, they buy White Oak pasture beef from Whole Foods. Because that's the market access, or they buy it from White Oak Pastures itself. So Will Harris has a wholesale, and he has retail, and he did it all on his own.

• 1:27:23Speaker 02

  And that's one of the reasons we're having that summit there, just beyond him being Will Harris. But people get to see that it is possible, that we have a case study, we have proof of work. And that's what Beef Initiative is doing right now collectively. With Jason Rick, Justin Cole, all the other producers that are coming in. We are creating that same type of model and mindset.

• 1:27:44Anthony Pompliano?

  I feel like ranchers, when the meat of the ranchers, there's kind of a mutual respect, as you've referenced a few times. Is this a game where if enough ranchers get together, the processors, the suppliers, they are actually serving at the whims of the rancher? An individual rancher is too weak by themselves and doesn't have enough leverage.

• 1:28:06Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:28:07Anthony Pompliano?

  I don't know, 20%, 50% of ranchers in the country get together and say enough's enough?

• 1:28:12Speaker 02

  Well.

• 1:28:13Anthony Pompliano?

  And the power shifts?

• 1:28:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, sorry to interrupt, because I get excited when I get to ask this. And the cowboy in me kind of comes out, you're damn right, we can. And what we can do is we can have these damn commodity cowboys, and I say this with respect, is to grow some balls. And let's get out there and let's quit freaking funneling our nutrition to the processors. Say you're going to listen to us and we're going to change things because we're being shorted out here. A lot of guys, they're leveraged hard and they can't do that. But as we grow with awareness and education like we're doing today on this show, what we're doing is we're giving confidence to the ranchers to say, we do have more control than we thought we did. We do see

• 1:28:58Speaker 02

  proof of work now. We do want to change our protocol where we can eliminate some of these, these captured prospects or processes in which we have to operate into. It's a slow game. It's low time. It took us a long time to get here. It's not just all of a sudden, you know, 50 years to create an issue. Well, it's not 50 years to solve it. I say the beef initiative right now in this phase is a 10 year program. But within this decade, what we can do is we can actually bring the rancher back home and we can bring basically our local cattle back home.

• 1:29:34Anthony Pompliano?

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• 1:30:51Anthony Pompliano?

  So when you see this problem, I think we can outline kind of theoretically, here's the solutions. One of the things we haven't talked about is there's immense friction in this process. Obviously, it would be pressured from the processors, from the suppliers, maybe even the grocery stores. There's an element of having to convince the American consumer to change their demand patterns. Not impossible, but still educational of that. But there's examples outside of the cattle industry that we can point to. Somebody like an Amos Miller, who's recently been in the news, that there's other pressures from regulatory bodies, from the government. Describe a little bit for folks, the Amos

• 1:31:31Anthony Pompliano?

  Miller kind of story and kind of your understanding of what that is. Because I think there's, while differences, there are some similarities between the individual saying, hey, I want to do something different. And, you know, he's been doing that, it seems like, for quite a while.

• 1:31:46Speaker 02

  Well, he kind of, he's, he sets the standard on, you know, on being able to stand up, you know, and he stands up to the federal, you know, governments, what he does, you know, and he's a rancher and he has access to a lot of different lands. And so, you know, he's out, I believe he's Nevada, correct? And so what he's done is he's taken a stance and he, he's willing to pioneer into the understanding and the awareness of what type of overreach and what type of regulatory capture has happened in America. And a lot of his story has been basically, you know, there's a lot of prohibition against that type of information. And so whenever you, as a rancher and a producer in the United

• 1:32:29Speaker 02

  States of America, that's why you don't really know. That's why the general public doesn't understand what's really going on. Because it's risky business. And, you know, with Amos Miller and what he's gone through on the federal level, you know, it's a movie within itself. It's a book within itself. And there's a lot of aspects of the story, you know, and you brought it up yesterday. Bring up one little touch point to what you read and what made you curious about Amos Miller.

• 1:32:57Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. Well, there was two main points. I think the first one Was recently in the news, I saw a headline and it's, you know, positioned as like independent farmer or however they described it, is now being fined by the federal government. And okay, I'm sure that there's fines, you know, every single day they get levied and, and most of them are because somebody broke rules. Now, we can argue over the validity of the rules or not, but, but somebody either intentionally or unintentionally broke rules or there's fines. All right. That, that happens every single day in the United States of America.

• 1:33:29Anthony Pompliano?

  But then I read the second line, which was, he's was selling to his local community. He's got kind of a subscription service going and, and all this. And by no means am I an expert, but what caught my attention was that he essentially was trying to sell raw milk and other things that obviously a portion of the population believes is healthier. And they want access, going back to kind of there's market demand for these things. And so capitalistic society, somebody will step in and serve that demand. And he's happened, happens to do that. And I moved on and I thought to myself, okay, you know, it, there's a fine, it'll get figured out. And frankly, I'm not a, a food connoisseur nor a food expert. So I move on with my day. And yesterday I saw somebody who had recently been on the show,

• 1:34:13Anthony Pompliano?

  Dave Column, he tweeted an article and it was about a federal raid on a farm. This is going back almost a decade. Yeah. And so I started to say, wait a second, like this is not a one time thing that's been going on recently. This is a multi-year battle essentially. Yes. And there's arguments on both sides that some people agree with one side, some people agree with others. But majority of people just say, I don't know. Yeah. Right? They say, well, yeah, it sounds good to have, you know, the FDA, look at the food and make sure that like, I don't eat it and die. On the other side, you have people saying, but if I can actually make it healthier and sell it directly to people who want it, and you're have two consenting adults entering into a contract, then we should be able to do that as well.

• 1:34:58Anthony Pompliano?

  So there's a fascinating issue because the deeper you go, the more complexity there is. Yeah. And frankly, you can see where education ultimately ends up being the single most Important thing throughout that entire situation.

• 1:35:12Speaker 02

  It's the best leverage you can have. And that's what we're doing here. And what you know with Miller, it is you look at the dairy industry and you know, everybody thinks, oh, pasteurized skin milk is the, that's the most unhealthy thing, in my opinion, that you could be consuming. It takes all the animal fat. It takes all of items and minerals out of your milk. They boil milk and say, oh, it's safe. You're not going to die from drinking raw milk. So you look at Miller, and this is something that people are starting to be educated basically on, and they do, they want market access and they want to include it into their consumption model is raw milk. Well, that's how we got here. That's how my mother was raised.

• 1:35:52Speaker 02

  It's how I was, I used to wake up as a child on the front porch, there was milk and it was every other day you had milk delivered to you.

• 1:36:02Anthony Pompliano?

  It wasn't boiled?

• 1:36:03Speaker 02

  It wasn't boiled. It was straight from the cow. Guess what, man? This big little, all of this that you just said is regulatory capture and ignorance. Not saying it's bad ignorance, it's just ignorance that we have been kept away from of understanding what true nutrition is, what pure nutrition is, and what pure animal protein and pure animal fat. It's how we got here, people. And they say, well, we're so populated now that, you know, we can't do that. It's just impossible. No, it's not. That's their narrative. That's their argument. And so what he's doing, he's fighting the system. And he's saying, I have a group of people that want my product. I am actually providing

• 1:36:48Speaker 02

  more benefit to the soil, to the earth, and to my community than any global corporation that has captured the dairy market. And so, you know, you poke the bear, guess what happens? You have to go up and you have to fight. You get fined. Let's talk about fines. Okay, let's talk about how fines work. Well, let's go back to JBS. Okay, they're the biggest meat processor in the United States. They're out of Brazil. They actually, you know, they Have been fined hundreds of millions of dollars. Just this last year, they were settled out of court, federal court, fifty six millions. They had to pay fifty six million dollars.

• 1:37:31Anthony Pompliano?

  What was it for?

• 1:37:32Speaker 02

  The, the, what it was is during COVID that they made basically over five hundred million dollars on price manipulation of beef in the United States.

• 1:37:43Anthony Pompliano?

  Got it.

• 1:37:43Speaker 02

  Okay, the general consumer doesn't know that.

• 1:37:46Anthony Pompliano?

  So, by the way, five hundred million of revenue, or, okay, five hundred million of profit and a fifty six million dollar fine.

• 1:37:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:37:53Anthony Pompliano?

  That sounds like a pretty good margin to just keep incentivizing to do that.

• 1:37:57Speaker 02

  Consulting company to do it again for us. Let's, let's make sure that, you know, we had that lined up on our next move here. Chess, you know, let's, let's, let's play some chess with the federal government and they do it very well. And, you know, the, the owner of, and the founder of JBS served two years in prison in Brazil for bribing the Brazilian president, along with politicians. And they had a fast track of bribing politicians in the United States. Guess what? Settle out of court. JBS has been fined hundreds of millions of dollars and the general public doesn't know about it. The Department of Justice should be all over JBS. Well, why isn't it?

• 1:38:42Speaker 02

  Well, we live in the United States. We have regulatory capture. We have lobbyists. We have big money. We have global plans and it's part of a global industrial food shift. And if you don't understand the source of the seed of the corruption, how can you understand the source of the seed of the solution? So if you're going to have this globalist movement that is okay and can afford these fines, okay? Well, what are we going to do? We're going to get this guy named Amos Miller and we're going to make an example of him. And we're going to put them all over the media and we're going to let everybody know that, oh my gosh, what he is doing is bad for your health. It's bad for your children's health. You know, we can prove it. Pasteurization in basically this new type of food that we're introducing to the food system

• 1:39:28Speaker 02

  is what you really need to be paying attention to. Don't pay attention to all the corruption that happens over here on the side and who is basically. Let's, let's look at the politicians. Let's look at the federal government that's going after Miller. Who are they? Who are funding them? That's the type of food intelligence you need to start introducing into your life. Because up to now, it's been random. We can't be random with it.

• 1:39:52Anthony Pompliano?

  And when we think about these new things that are introduced into the food supply, obviously pasteurized milk and things like that, I think people put into a bucket and they say it's milk. Right? And they don't know the difference between pasteurized versus raw milk or whatever. And milk is milk and milk's always been a staple in the diet. And so they go to the store and they buy it and they consume it. Where I do think that people, there's, there's debate, maybe is a politically correct way to say it.

• 1:40:22Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:40:22Anthony Pompliano?

  Is when you get into the bioengineered meats. So this is impossible food and all of these.

• 1:40:34Anthony Pompliano?

  Beyond Meat, there's a couple of other ones. They now have cracked from, hey, we'll sell you the patties in the grocery store to, oh, you know, Burger King or McDonald's or wherever, they've started to get into that market. And you can go and you can buy these. And usually they'll tell you, hey, you're buying a patty that is not meat. It's the, you know, Beyond Burger or whatever they want to call it.

• 1:40:56Speaker 02

  Morning Star Farms, they were one of the first ones.

• 1:40:59Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. And so it's, in some ways, if you're hip, if you're cool, if you care about the environment, right? You go and you buy this. If you're a vegan, right? You go and you buy this, whatever.

• 1:41:10Anthony Pompliano?

  But it's not hard to see a world where like, rather than there being internet companies, now everyone's just a company and they happen to use the internet. Rather than having the genetically modified burger, it just becomes the burger. And so what is your thoughts about this whole world of like fake meat? That seems to be the, you know, the sludges taking over is kind of like the critics' argument. Like what's going on?

• 1:41:34Speaker 02

  Well, I know it's a slow roll into change as far as them changing our food consumption, right? And, you know, the last year, I think it was basically last fall, you know, I talked about kind of the fake meat. And I said, there's going to be a global marketing plan that gets released in 2022. And it's going to be based around consumption of fake meat. Well, sure enough, you know, we go through and all of a sudden, everybody starts seeing fake meat commercials. They're seeing it Burger King, they're seeing it in the schools, they're seeing everything. And they, people are out there, you know, on social media and they're saying, I'm never eating that damn 3D printed steak. I'm never eating that damn veggie burger that, you know, looks like a hamburger patty.

• 1:42:18Speaker 02

  I'm not eating that sausage that looks all flaccid. And you know, you have all kinds of things that people are talking about of fake meat. That's the distraction. What, what I mean by that, well, they pretty much know that you're not going to go over there, you know, running through the aisles, can't wait to get to your fake meat patties or your fake meat steak. What they are though, and they've already done it in a lot of basically actions and maneuvers are already moving forward is they're going to inject fake meat. And let's say fake protein, let's go there. I don't even want to use the word meat anymore. Fake protein into our food supply in ways that we don't know.

• 1:42:59Speaker 02

  You heard me talk about the FDA and the gross rule, the, the labeling changes in which we do. You know, how many people go and look at their box and really can pronounce, pronounce all those words, right? So it's a play on the English language. It's a play on understanding words. Well, now what they're doing is you're seeing bugs. Oh shit, now we're going to have to eat bugs. You know, and they're teaching children how to eat crickets as they teach them how to brush their teeth.

• 1:43:26Anthony Pompliano?

  I saw the video where there's a guy, he's dressed up, he must be important. He's got, you know, dressed like he's going to, you know, church on Sunday.

• 1:43:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:36Anthony Pompliano?

  And he's sitting in front of the classroom and, you know, young kids, exactly what you would expect in kind of like an elementary classroom it looks like. And he pulls out a bag that you would see at the airport, at the grocery store, at a convenience store, whatever. And it could have anything from M and M's to, you know, whatever other processed stuff that they've put in there. And he's basically telling the kids that there's crickets.

• 1:43:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:58Anthony Pompliano?

  In this bag and, you know, maybe they're chocolate covered crickets or maybe they're regular crickets or whatever they've come up with.

• 1:44:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:05Anthony Pompliano?

  And he's handing them out to the kids. And of course I see the video because it only cracks into my world on Twitter. If it's being mocked and ridiculed and like, this is insane.

• 1:44:16Anthony Pompliano?

  But it made me stop and say, what the fuck is going on here?

• 1:44:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, it's social engineering at its finest, of course, you know, because that's what we do these days is we engineer society in a way that they want us to be engineered socially. So you look at that and yeah, you know, I've been like I said, we've traveled, I've, you know, I used to go down to Oaxaca in Mexico and Chapolinas is something that you can go and you can get, you know, at the market, you walk up and get a bag of Chapolinas. They can be, you know, spicy or they can have, you know, some type of, you know, caramel on it. Go to Asia, same thing. People have been eating Chapolinas, crickets and grasshoppers and locusts forever.

• 1:44:55Speaker 02

  You know, it was, it was something. It does have protein in it, but what they don't really, you know, explain with that type of marketing and advertising is that they already have stuff called cricket dust, cricket flour. So what they've done like with seed oils, they've taken a weed and basically made it one of the biggest consumption commodities in the world with that canola or any other type of seed oil. Okay. Well, they're going to do the same thing with this fake protein, be pea protein, soy protein, crickets, whatever they come along with scorpions, whatever they want to do, they'll interject, interject it and inject it into our food supply.

• 1:45:36Speaker 02

  And we won't even know it because most of people out there are okay with eating their pizza pockets and their chicken tendies and they don't even know what the hell it is and it's not chicken. Well, it's not pizza. It's not, you know, it's not pepperoni because you look at, I've, I've worked with some people in the industrial food, basically factories, the processing centers themselves. Used to you'd get a burrito and it was, it was a combination burrito and we're just using this as an example. Half of it was beans, half of it was beef. Okay. Great. Well, they can call it a beef and bean burrito, right? And that's legal, right? Well now, well shit, beef is kind of more expensive. Well, let's put 70% beans and let's put 30% beef.

• 1:46:20Speaker 02

  Well, no, let's, let's do 30% beef. Let's do 20% of soy. Soy protein and then we'll do 50% beans. So throughout the time that that combination burrito has basically started out exactly what it was said. The labeling laws have changed to where now that combination burrito can be 10% beans. It can be 80% soy and now moving forward, it'll be 20% bugs. It'll be that type of pea protein, bug protein, whatever they say is actually healthier. And it's better for the planet. They'll be putting it in those products. Well, the people that are eating those products are usually children and it's usually mothers that are buying and fathers

• 1:47:04Speaker 02

  that are buying that label. They're buying the wordage saying heart, healthy, good for children, packed with protein. 14 grams of protein and they're, they're saying you don't need as much protein now. So they're manipulating society to think that you do not need animal protein, that vegetable protein is ever even better. And basically by doing that, they're able to inject that fake protein into the food supply.

• 1:47:31Anthony Pompliano?

  It's absolutely insane that this is.

• 1:47:34Speaker 02

  And this is moving forward hard.

• 1:47:35Anthony Pompliano?

  One of the other things as we talk about children blew my mind.

• 1:47:41Anthony Pompliano?

  The new New York City mayor, Mayor Adams. He's very excited to tell people that he doesn't eat meat. He's, I think he says he's vegetarian or vegan or, you know.

• 1:47:51Speaker 02

  I can tell.

• 1:47:54Anthony Pompliano?

  Well, he, he, he, he's made a lot of promises and then I was excited because I thought that he understood Bitcoin. And, you know, then all of a sudden started talking about banning Bitcoin mining. And I said, I don't think you understand at all. And the part that absolutely just sent me over the edge was they're trying to remove meat from the children's diets in the schools. So it's not even just saying like, it's one thing if you say, hey, protein's important. Let's, uh, let's not eat steak instead. We're going to eat chicken or we're going to eat, you know, even crickets. Frankly, okay, but just this whole washing of like protein essentially from the diets and meatless Mondays and coming up with all these like crazy things.

• 1:48:39Anthony Pompliano?

  It just falls back to like, just leave the kids the fuck alone.

• 1:48:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:48:42Anthony Pompliano?

  Right? And so what do you take as to politicians stepping in and implementing these kind of wide sweeping changes to the diet inside of public schools?

• 1:48:51Speaker 02

  It's gonna be kind of a long answer, but I'll give it a reflection as a child

• 1:48:55Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 1:48:55Speaker 02

  in the middle of Texas. We used to, you know, at one point in time, they did feed us soy burgers back in the seventies. Well, that soy was different then. Okay, it was probably a little bit healthier. You know, it was probably good, you know, to go ahead and use the school system and basically provide kids that weren't getting good protein. That was a supplement. Okay, so it's a subsidized supplement that had validity and that was in the 1970s. Okay, you look at it now and everything. Let's look at the health of a freaking nation right now where our kids, our age is five to 11 now, 46% of them are obese or overweight.

• 1:49:33Anthony Pompliano?

  It's crazy.

• 1:49:34Speaker 02

  One out of two is going to diabetes or already has diabetes. That's the health of our kids in this nation. That is a fucking genocide. And if people do not start understanding that, we're going to kill our kids in a way that we don't see, but we're gonna let these stupid politicians do it. That's where we say no more.

• 1:49:57Anthony Pompliano?

  And when we think about this, it feels like the kids.

• 1:50:02Speaker 02

  They're helpless.

• 1:50:03Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, they don't know any better, right? They go to school and whatever they're fed, it's a it's a belief that the teacher or the cafeteria manager or the chef or whatever, they're just here to look out for me. Like, I live in a safe world, right? And unfortunately, there's kids who go to school and that is the most dense and supposed to be most nutritious meal that they're gonna get all day.

• 1:50:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:24Anthony Pompliano?

  And that's where I think it just goes back to like, just leave the kids alone.

• 1:50:29Speaker 02

  Exactly. And actually, that should be the first thing that all of us as adults, responsible people, parents, we're all parents or going to be parents probably, a high percentage. We can look at ourselves and say, okay, but what we have to do is we have to get right. It's like, you know, I talked to a lot of doctors and I said, where do we start? The education with our parents and Dr. Mary Kares, she spoke at one of our conferences. She says that we have to treat it like we're on an airplane. Okay, that the oxygen masks come down. We got to put the oxygen masks on ourselves first. And then once we understand what we're up against, what politicians like Jackass is doing in New York, then we can look at the solutions in which we can basically get around of.

• 1:51:13Speaker 02

  And so you look at the the school programs and I'll give you an example. Coming from Texas, I love ranches, but you have a ranch out there and it's the four sixes. It used to be one of the biggest ranches in the world.

• 1:51:24Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 1:51:25Speaker 02

  What they did, they have a certain county out there. Okay. And I believe it's Guthrie County. All right. In Guthrie County, Texas, with the four sixes, it was basically the whole county. It's the county square. It's the town. They took over the skid, the kids' food programs. It was all from the ranch. They gave the the the food program to the ranch. That ranch was able to get that school system, that independent school system. They improved attendance, health, everything across the board improved because of that local community fed their local independent school district. Okay, now let's look at what they're doing in New York.

• 1:52:07Speaker 02

  And before he made those announcements, I believe it was at the beginning of the year. I think February or March, and we're talking about one of the bills that, you know, the administration passed. And I said, watch out, they're going to come after the food systems for the the school systems. That in New York is exactly what they're doing. They're interjecting or they're injecting these new fake commodity ideas. And then they'll inject it into the food system of our children.

• 1:52:35Anthony Pompliano?

  Governor Abbott has taken a bunch of migrants and bused them to New York. I'm surprised that you guys aren't sending some meat up there as well as a way to kind of drop off.

• 1:52:47Speaker 02

  We're like I said, we're about to feed the nation again.

• 1:52:51Anthony Pompliano?

  When we speak about kids, I think one of the hot topics in society in general today is China and things like TikTok and. Kind of how they're a large consumption percentage from just like a psychological perspective of children. But China also has been buying up a lot of farmland in the United States. What do you read into that? Is that just a country trying to make money? Is there other things people should be aware of or concerned about?

• 1:53:20Speaker 02

  Well, you look at China and you know, they're the most populous country in the world. They have a lot of people to feed and their consumption is different. But they, you know, their elites eat a lot of our beef. They do. I mean, that's, that's what they have to eat. And whenever I say there's an attack on beef and everybody needs to understand that it's like you and I are the peasants, right? Modern day peasants now, you know, we're the ones that don't have that market access. Peasants don't have market access. They're not getting rid of beef. They're just not going to give you access to it. So they're going to turn beef into caviar for the average consumer in the United States. That's their intentions. And there's already 70% of the population across the globe that are saying, we're cutting back on our meat because they don't even include it within inflation.

• 1:54:05Speaker 02

  Okay, we look at China that's trying to feed their nation, right? Well, they control a lot of grain in the world on, on the market, on the global market. Okay, well, they really are dependent on the global food industry. So how do they circumvent around that? Well, you go to the breadbasket of the world, which is basically the Great Plains, you know, middle America, right? And so what they've been doing during COVID, they bought over 200,000 acres of farmland that nobody was paying attention to. Cause everybody was looking at Gates, what is Gates doing? Well, China kind of flew under the radar and was able to acquire a lot of our land. And they're bringing a lot of different type of technologies and they're making a lot of plays

• 1:54:48Speaker 02

  on how food is basically probably consumed in their nation. But also by own on our farmland, they get to control how we consume and what we consume as well. So what they're doing is they're basically creating a whole new Silk Road of food distribution within the United States itself.

• 1:55:07Anthony Pompliano?

  And when we see this, what are the things you're most worried about? Is it things that they are doing to American farmland to feed themselves? And so we want to be careful as to what they're doing to the farmland itself? Or is it things that they're doing to the farmland, which ultimately is the food supply? Then that food is then given to the American public? Like, where are you most concerned?

• 1:55:28Speaker 02

  Right now, what I'm concerned about in the United States of America, let's start with the United States of America, is that the lack of market access that we truly have in the United States is far worse than people understand. I just drove 14,000 miles across the South. And I'm gonna go hit the Northwest. I'm hitting Idaho, Wyoming. I'm traveling around the world right now is what I'm doing. But get back to the point. I see tons of food deserts in the United States that are feeding communities. There's a lot of times all you find in a community is a convenience store and a Dollar General or a Walmart within 70 to 100 miles. That's our food distribution in the United States right now.

• 1:56:12Speaker 02

  And people don't realize it because they're not going out and seeing this country anymore. So when we look at the United States, they can basically fabricate, and this is something I believe is going to happen in the United States, is there's gonna be a short-term food supply shortage. It's not because we don't have access, we don't have enough food. We don't have access to food.

• 1:56:32Anthony Pompliano?

  Is that like a famine? Or?

• 1:56:34Speaker 02

  Well, there's gonna be famines moving forward.

• 1:56:36Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay, explain that.

• 1:56:37Speaker 02

  Well, right now, we're basically, there was a fertilizer shortage, a prohibition against fertilizer. And this is part of the global movement. This, basically, this big global industrial food shift that I've been talking about, this has been planned for a while. And so what we've done is there's a nitrogen shortage. Nitrogen shortage, fertilizer shortage. You have fertilizer shortage, you have a grain shortage. You have a war in Ukraine and Russia. Well, guess who creates 33% of the global grain? Russia and Ukraine. Reason that, basically, I think that Russia is not having a lot of goods is because Ukraine owns a lot of that wheat, a lot of that grain. So you're having a global

• 1:57:17Speaker 02

  Basically shortage of grain that plays out over time. If you don't have grain, you don't feed livestock, you don't feed people. So what happens with that? And you look at the history of man, if you have a pandemic, what else comes with the pandemic? A famine. What comes with the famine? Migration. So I see what's about to take place is we're going to have a famine that causes migration. Where that starts, I don't know. Is the famine going to be in Africa? Probably is it going to be in Asia? Possibly. And once that happens, you're going to start seeing migration happening to Europe again.

• 1:57:53Anthony Pompliano?

  So when something like this plays out, it's kind of like monetary policy in the economy a little bit, like we have high inflation right now.

• 1:58:01Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:58:02Anthony Pompliano?

  Right. Highest it's been in 40 years. Why? Well, monetary policy is a pretty big part of it.

• 1:58:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:07Anthony Pompliano?

  There's also supply chain disruptions, government mandated lockdowns, the geopolitical conflicts. Like, there's multiple things that feed into it. If we see famine anywhere in the world, multiple things that feed into it, some of it is what I'll call kind of more the macro trends around the way that food's been treated, seeds and a lot of things we've been talking about. Some of it's also just like fertilizer shortage.

• 1:58:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:28Anthony Pompliano?

  Right. And then also some of it seems to be if you're not able to actually have the wheat harvest or the grain harvest that you normally would in Russia and Ukraine.

• 1:58:39Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:58:39Anthony Pompliano?

  Then you can't export it. And if you can't export it, then there's a shortage and it just throws the whole system kind of out of whack.

• 1:58:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:58:44Anthony Pompliano?

  Uh, the positive side of that is if it occurs, hopefully we can get back on track after, you know, one or two seasons and kind of everything will be okay. But that remains kind of an open question of like, how bad is the pain it seems like?

• 1:58:57Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:58:58Anthony Pompliano?

  In the short term, and then how quickly can we get back on track once some of these issues are solved?

• 1:59:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. And that's a really good way to look at that. That's a good breakdown because a lot of people think everything's instantaneous. You know, we live in the high time preference way in which we think. Whenever you have that grain shortage, that takes time to play out. And so it's not automatically seen. And so you'll see touch points of things that are not available anymore, you know? And by saying that, it's like, okay, whenever I was on harvest, I quit. Harvest early last year. I said, I gotta start writing this because I knew there was going to be a grain shortage this year. I knew that this was coming down. So I wanted to get the message out there because all of the ranchers that I spoke to in the very beginning, especially said, we have to make this happen in 2022. We have to get people aware now so they can basically

• 1:59:46Speaker 02

  be prepared. I think us as Americans, above and beyond anybody, has a way that we can empower ourselves right now. During times of mass prohibition, there should be times of mass innovation. And I think that's what we're positioned to do as far as the beef initiative and the ranchers that have come on board. We're giving that option. We're not thinking about food insecurity right now. Everybody that's come through the beef initiative as far as a producer rancher, they're thriving right now because that consumer demand is being changed. And I, you know, I haven't talked about the beef initiative and how much beef we're selling. Well, you gotta look at volume. What can you supply? I don't want to go out there and LARP and

• 2:00:29Speaker 02

  say, hey, look at me, look at me. It's not about likes. You know, I grew my Twitter channel in Bitcoin Twitter, and I did it very slowly because every bit of my growth was dependent on what we could supply to the consumer. And now that we have the processing centers, our volume is increasing tenfold. Well, now, here we are talking. And that way, I can control what we can supply. And I'm very confident now that we can supply to, like I say, you know, 10 times more than we were in

• 2:00:58Anthony Pompliano?

  the beginning. So how does it work? People, people show up and they say, hey, I want healthy beef where I know where it came from. And you all are essentially aggregating suppliers and producers and saying, we can provide you access, kind of this market access, right, to the beef itself?

• 2:01:13Speaker 02

  What had happened, you know, in you, let's talk about Bitcoin, you know, and, you know, the beef initiative, and I tell this to everybody, the beef initiative basically is the most firm stance in integrity that you can find in beef right now in the United States and in the world. And if you don't believe me, just try me. We've, we've put a lot of time into that. It is about integrity of food. And this is The number one thing that we have to look at. So by saying that we've built out the technology stack and I always wanted to give the option of you can buy in Fiat or you can buy in Bitcoin. And so what that took was educating ranchers and everything. Cole Bolton was one of the first ones we approached, like I said before, and he'd kind of dabbled in Bitcoin a little bit,

• 2:01:57Speaker 02

  but we built out our technology stack and we've developed these really good relationships with Oshie, with IBEX. We used OpenNode and you know, we used everything that's out there right now. Man, our technology stack is foolproof right now. It's doing really well. And so by doing that, you can go to the Beef Initiative right now in 48 states in the United States and you can buy boxes of beef. By saying that, well, you can also go to Oshie and if you're in Texas or a surrounding state, you can buy a half a cow or a quarter of a cow. So you can basically source your beef right now through the Beef Initiative anywhere in the United States. Okay, that's our major supplier is Cole Bolton of KNC Cattle. Okay, you get Jason out there in Colorado. Well, he's part of the Beef

• 2:02:42Speaker 02

  Initiative too. He just likes to do the western slope of Colorado. And so everybody realizes that when they go find him in the Beef Initiative, because they can search for him under the producers. Well, people that are local to him, well, they're buying from him. And now we're bringing in Holy Cow of West Texas. They do grass fed and grass finished. Now we're going to go into a subscription model to where every month you can go through there and you can basically have a box shipped to you. You can from Cole Bolton of KNC Cattle, Holy Cow outside of Lubbock, Texas, and then we're bringing in somebody from western Colorado, Scott Hock of Sacred Farms. So yeah, the producers are

• 2:03:24Speaker 02

  coming in and we're giving them that technology stack where they can accept Fiat or Bitcoin. And so by doing that, we have over, I think 50 to 60 producers that are listed under in the platform under producers. Well, now we're going to start hitting every one of those states and we're going to let them do the case study that we did with Cole Bolton. Now we can do it Washington State, Florida, we can do it in Maine, California, and all these producers get to come in. Cole gets to look at Texas again, and then all these other producers get to start serving their communities like they want to. That way, we have a lot of different options. Maybe you do want to get your beef from Texas. You have that option. Maybe you want to get it from Florida, where you're going to have that option.

• 2:04:07Speaker 02

  And so as, you know, I spread the word, the producers are coming in. I go meet with them and I see what their protocol is. You know, does it match the Beef Initiative standards? Our standard is far better than the USDA stamp. USDA stamp can say, yeah, we're the USDA. Well, so what? I don't care. We're the Beef Initiative. And I'll talk to anybody about how we raise and steward and process and deliver beef. And it's the standard to be.

• 2:04:34Anthony Pompliano?

  Will you guys start to put stickers on stuff?

• 2:04:36Speaker 02

  We will. There's a process that you go through that because we have to play by the rules, right? And we want to know the law better than the law knows itself. So at one point in time, the Beef Initiative will have a stamp. Yeah.

• 2:04:48Anthony Pompliano?

  And you can put that on and then people can look for it, not only the USDA, but also they can look for it.

• 2:04:52Speaker 02

  Now it's more of a state of mind. It's a marketing thing in a way that's, you know, kind of grassroots marketing. You know, kind of information exchange that builds some trust. But over a period of time, we'll say, we are the brand here. You can trust us. And people will go, hell, yeah, man, that's the Beef Initiative.

• 2:05:09Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. When we think about a lot of the food supply, one of the last things I want to talk about is the testosterone levels. Yeah. Have fallen off a cliff.

• 2:05:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:18Anthony Pompliano?

  The latest stats that I've seen are somebody born in 2020 has about 50% of the testosterone of someone born in 2000. It's a 20-year kind of difference, 50% drop in testosterone. How much of that is just pure food versus other things, you think?

• 2:05:34Speaker 02

  Well, it's, let's start off by saying this. Your skin is your second stomach.

• 2:05:40Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 2:05:40Speaker 02

  Okay. You look at that and you look at things like plastics, phthalates, and you look at hormones in children. And you look at delivery of minerals and vitamins, and you look what your skin basically takes in. How many people go through and take a shower and, you know? Soap and shampoo with all kinds of chemicals before they ever even eat anything. Okay. And you look at children, what do they eat? Well, their first, you know, maybe they took a shower last night or they took a shower this morning. Well, they already got all those chemicals. Their skin's already basically digesting everything and has to go through their blood systems. Well, now they're, they're eating food now that has no protein in it. That's what's dropping these testosterone levels.

• 2:06:23Speaker 02

  And going back to the doctors that I do work with, and this is just not one doctor. Everybody that's come through the Beef Initiative because of what we're doing, because we're basing nutrition to kids, is they're saying that, yeah, most teenagers now, their testosterone levels, to your point, is around 200. It should be about 1200 to 1400. Okay. That is insane. It's, well, it's, it's destroying a generation of young men is what it's doing. And you look at the children, but now let's look at teenagers, you know, let's look at guys in their twenties. They don't have the testosterone of me. You know, they don't, and they don't know why. If you go to a doctor and say, test my testosterone, that doctor's gonna say, why?

• 2:07:07Speaker 02

  Why do you want your testosterone checked? And you look back at the social engineering, oh, well, that's masculinity. Oh, that's, you know, testosterone is rage, you know? And they talk about that all the time, you know? And so part of it is social engineering, people not understanding how important testosterone level is and how dangerous it is to, to, to engineer a decrease in hormone levels in children. You know, from testosterone to estrogen. Whenever you're having little boys come in and they're basically having estrogen and they're growing breasts and they should not be growing breasts. They're not going into puberty when they should be going into puberty.

• 2:07:47Speaker 02

  And you, you look at the manipulation and the engineering of, of the delivery of the minerals and vitamins and everything that should be okay as a society that we should be paying attention to. We're not paying attention to it and parents don't know how to pay attention to it. And when they do try to pay attention to it, you know, centralized media basically makes it a non-issue when it's one of the biggest issues you have.

• 2:08:13Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. And when you think of the testosterone, is that water playing to it as well? Like, that's one of the big things I hear is, you know, I drink a lot of liquids out of water bottles and there are people, you know, that's one of the big things that they push on and I'm like, oh shit, maybe I should stop doing that. Like, how do you think about water versus the, just the protein and animal protein and stuff like that?

• 2:08:31Speaker 02

  I think, of course, water is the substance of life. You know, you can go, you can, you know, I fast a lot, you know, I, one time I did a 10-day fast. I can go 10 days without eating. Can I go 10 days without water? No. So I, I look at it to your question is, I think it's hand in hand. It really is. You know, having clean water is, is basically just top of mind, just as much as protein is. And that's what I, you know, that's how I live. And of course, we shouldn't be drinking out of plastic bottles, right? But, you know, we, we do the best we can right now and, you know, you, you ease into, but, you know, that, the water consumption and the flow of the body is extremely important because it cleans, it cleanses. But then again, the plastics in which we do expose ourselves

• 2:09:16Speaker 02

  to does end up that we have to process that too.

• 2:09:19Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:20Speaker 02

  So, you know, if you're, if you're consuming a lot of, you know, shit food, you know, there's a lot of plastics in our food now. There's a lot of glyphosate in our food. There's so many chemicals in our food that, you know, the one thing that you should do is I do a 48-hour bone broth fast.

• 2:09:38Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay, what, what is that?

• 2:09:39Speaker 02

  What it is, is you, you get a grass-fed beef, grass-finished beef, and you basically make a bone broth out of that. And then you do, I call it a reset. And what you do is you only consume water and bone broth for like 48 hours. Well, it gives your system a reset. You get to say, whoa, hold up here. I'm gonna clear up my mind a little bit, I'm gonna clear up my body a little bit, and I'm gonna flush it out, you know, I'm gonna flush it out with water, and then I'm gonna deliver pure animal protein and nutrition through bone broth. If you look at, and you dissect a cow down, and you look how valuable the bone is, the marrow, everything within the cow that we as people do not understand anymore, what

• 2:10:23Speaker 02

  you're gonna do is you're gonna give your body a reset, it's gonna give your mind a break. Once and again, referring back to doctors, some functional medicine doctors especially, they're telling their parents, their patients, "I'm not gonna talk to you until you do a 48-hour bone broth fast," because what you have right now, a lot of people's brains are inflamed. They're inflamed by eating overly processed food, Cetols, high fructose corn syrup. You have children coming into the doctors as well with fatty liver disease that used to be a problem of a man that drank all of his life in his 70s. Now we have children five to 11 that are coming in and need liver transplants because

• 2:11:06Speaker 02

  of high fructose corn syrup, because of Cetols, because of everything that we're feeding them, and of course, they're not drinking enough water, and they're getting too much of those pesticides, those plastics and everything. So we have to look like we have to become our own filters.

• 2:11:20Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. We've been talking today, obviously, the Beef Initiative is very focused on delivering animal proteins and making sure that's the healthiest possible. Somebody who's blown up on the internet recently is Liver King. What are your take on this guy who's eaten bone marrow and livers and, you know, looks like a Herculean statue, says it's all natural, what's your general take?

• 2:11:42Speaker 02

  It's 100% natural, man. That guy will go out there, you know, and he will eat a full liver that's raw, and he'll eat it from a grass-fed, grass-finished cow. And what he's doing, I don't wanna say it's overreach, well, it's overstep for a lot of people, but I see what his point is. It's like, this is where you get your power from. You know, he does, he looks freakishly You know, big and built and just everything about him. But what he's making a statement of is that he knows what vitamins and minerals are. He's making you look at him and he's saying, I eat bones. This is where the minerals are and you need to pay attention.

• 2:12:23Speaker 02

  It's not in that box of cereal that says it's loaded with vitamins and minerals, but all it is is sugar, you know? So he's making a statement on that level. But if you go through, I have never met, not one time in my life, somebody that eats like he does or close to that has health problems. And that is basically, you know, somebody that suffers from being overfed and nutritionally starved. Everybody that you look that basically has a consumption model based on his extremities, basically, his extremes. You're going to find people that are much more clear in the mind, much more clear in the body, much more clear in their spirit. It's just something that you do notice.

• 2:13:06Speaker 02

  I think that's what he's trying to make a point of.

• 2:13:09Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:09Speaker 02

  He probably didn't start out like that, but his success lies in his communication and his representation.

• 2:13:15Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. Can you overeat meat?

• 2:13:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, your body's only going to digest so much protein. It'll extract the rest.

• 2:13:23Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, well, I guess part of it is if you think of, you know, people being fat, right? It's because they eat more calories than they burn.

• 2:13:32Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:13:32Anthony Pompliano?

  To some degree, I think with meat, most people say like you eat enough and your body just says, hey, no more.

• 2:13:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're fine.

• 2:13:39Anthony Pompliano?

  Right? And it almost prevents you from overeating in the way that, you know, if you're eating kind of empty calories, for example, it does feel like it's much harder, I guess, to become obese.

• 2:13:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:13:51Anthony Pompliano?

  If your body just literally won't let you consume more calories because it's satiated.

• 2:13:56Speaker 02

  Well, you look at, you eat pure animal protein. You know, you're going to have to digest less. You know, what are you doing? Well, it's mostly just vitamins and minerals. There's not a lot of, you know, impurities in that. And so your body will say, hey, cool, you know, we're good. I'm getting energy from what you're feeding me. I'm going to let you know whenever you don't have to eat as much, right? Whenever you're eating heavily processed food and all those chemicals that we talked about, all the different ingredients, the fake commodities, everything in that food, doesn't matter what the package says. You know, mostly with our consumption models in our food industry right now, you're having to eat every four hours. You look at how we've marketed and everything since the food pyramid, let's say, you know,

• 2:14:38Speaker 02

  the pizza, you know, you're eating pizza, you're eating the best food in the world, you got everything, you know, you got all the food groups. What that has led us to be is basically our bodies are starving. Okay, we're overfed and undernourished. Okay, we're nutritionally starved in a way. By being overfed, what we mean is we're consuming so much food that our bodies don't know what to do with that, what we're consuming. What does your body do with something that it doesn't know what to do with? Turns it into a fat cell for defense. And so what we're doing, that's how we're getting on this, basically this roadmap of, you know, obesity, which we are as a nation and the world is turning into,

• 2:15:20Speaker 02

  is because our bodies don't know when to say, our minds don't know when to say stop, because we're basically feeding it something that's not working out. It's like, man, this is not this, and people, you look at food now as a drug. Okay, food is medicine, medicine is food. Okay, you look at it like that. Well, now food, the way that we consume it, as far as the industrial food complex, it's nothing more than a drug. Okay, my father was a counselor for 25 years on chemical dependency. So I've always talked to him about that. And we look at food now, and you look at somebody that tries to go through a fast like that, and they haven't eaten in eight hours, and they're used to eating every four hours.

• 2:16:02Speaker 02

  They're used to getting that snack, you know, whatever that snack is. You know, they're always consuming, it's never stopping. Well, you get that same person and you say, stop. Okay, well, they're gonna go through a form of, okay, being an alcoholic, okay, is it, whenever you get off alcohol and you're a true alcoholic, you're going through a detox. Well, alcohol is nothing more than sugar. Okay, you look at our food consumption now in the United States of America heavily processed, most of it is just sugar. So you get somebody that's used to eating that consumption model. They're going through a form of detox that is scary to them and they don't feel right. What is their comfort? Go back to the source, just like an addict does.

• 2:16:45Speaker 02

  And so we've turned food into such a powerful drug that a lot of people don't understand it, nor basically do they want to even go there because they have to look in that accountability mirror.

• 2:16:55Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, and it literally just comes down to you are putting things in your body, whether it's medicine or food, right? Your body's going to react. And I think that your macro point around just the food intelligence, people don't know what they're putting in their bodies.

• 2:17:11Speaker 02

  No, even if they're good and they have good intentions, man. And that's why I always tell people, this is not a judgment, man. We're all victims of it. You know, we all eat like crap at times, we have in our lives. Man, we're all in this together, man. This is not something pointing at you saying you're doing the wrong diet program. You know, oh, keto over paleo or vegan over vegetarianism. It's the beef initiative because I'm from freaking Texas, man. You know, but what it's really about is pure food again. And if we can look at that and say, man, that's all I really need to do. I don't need to get on this 12 month diet program that starts on January 2nd. We're going to have that day extra where I have to really think about it and then kick in. And then, fuck, here I am eating donuts again on February 2nd.

• 2:17:56Speaker 02

  So we don't have to play that game anymore. What you have to do is basically be intentional saying, man, I'm just going to get back to some pure food again and I'm going to take a different route this time.

• 2:18:05Anthony Pompliano?

  I usually eat pretty healthy, but I'm going to admit to you, I had a cookie last night. I saw it, I said, that shit looks good, man. Hell, yeah. And I do that, I was like, man, I'm eating unhealthy, but like, whatever, right? And I do think everyone does it.

• 2:18:21Speaker 02

  You do, of course, man. Think how guilty I feel when I ate some ice cream, man. I was like, somebody looking at my ass.

• 2:18:29Anthony Pompliano?

  But I do believe that, you know, there's plenty of fads and diets. Like, all this stuff is, everyone's looking for the shortcut.

• 2:18:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:37Anthony Pompliano?

  But, but the overall message of just, one, understanding what you're putting in your body, but also, two, just eating real food.

• 2:18:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:44Anthony Pompliano?

  Right? I mean, if you just start there, like, just eat real food, not the processed stuff.

• 2:18:47Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 2:18:48Anthony Pompliano?

  For most people, that's a pretty big improvement.

• 2:18:50Speaker 02

  It really is. And like I said, when I first started writing about this, I said, "Man, this is daunting. Where do you start?" And a lot of people start midstream of trying to make change. What I'm asking people is, get down to the source of the seed of the solution, but first you have to understand the source of the seed of the issue. And there, there's so many things that we can talk about, and what you just said made me think about the first conversation I had with Cole. And everybody's like, "Oh, your beef is too expensive. You want to bet?" Guess what? Nah, our beef is just basically less expensive than the supermarket is right now, or the same price, but the value? Okay, let's talk about the value. Of course, it's going to be the taste. Of course, it's going to be the nutrition, everything else. What else is, what is the value of that purchase?

• 2:19:35Speaker 02

  Of having that market access and that consumption? Well, your medical bills go down, your insurance changes. That's what the ranchers want people to know. It's like, "Hey, you don't have to look at it this way. Perception is your reality." Well, your perception needs to change about buying pure animal protein in a different way. If you're going to compare somebody like Cole Bolton, or Jason Rick, or Justin Trammell to the supermarket, you've already lost, man. You're, you're, it's apples and oranges, right? You can't make that comparison. And what you need to do is really understand that your beef, that you're getting delivered to your doorstep, is basically in line with the pricing models of you basically going

• 2:20:17Speaker 02

  down to your local supermarket now, because how they are manipulating the beef industry toward you, the consumer, and the rancher, the ones that are paying the prices.

• 2:20:26Anthony Pompliano?

  My takeaways from today are eat real food, know what you put in your body, and when you go to the grocery store, stay on the outside. Don't go, don't go inside.

• 2:20:34Speaker 02

  That's a good start.

• 2:20:35Anthony Pompliano?

  Right? Feel like that's a pretty good takeaway for most people?

• 2:20:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. And you know, I have to say it's like, go to freaking beef initiative.com, man, seriously.

• 2:20:43Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. Well, I was gonna ask, where can we send people if people want, either want to learn more about what they're eating and all that, or if they want to actually order healthier beef and go right to the ranchers? Where should we send them?

• 2:20:54Speaker 02

  Well, what I tell everybody, there's a lot of different ways you can do it. What I'm pushing right now, because you know, it's time, we're ready to go into fall, especially because I think there will be some food insecurity in this nation. Is like, develop your market access. The best place to start is through the beef initiative right now. You know, people will say, well, what about places like ButcherBox or Whole Foods? It's not the same, man. It's not the same beef. It's not aged. I mean, everything about it, we are basically right now, the type of capacity that we have and what we can provide. As far as that pure animal protein, just beefinitiative.com and you can purchase your boxes through us. You know that the rancher, you know me now.

• 2:21:37Speaker 02

  You know, everything that you have, you have a new market access for, you know, your consumption model. That's the best place to start.

• 2:21:43Anthony Pompliano?

  Beefinitiative.com.

• 2:21:45Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. And then if you don't want to buy from us, then do a search on our producer page. Say, hey, I got these guys in Missouri. I got this person I found, you know, in Idaho. We've got them basically coming in from every state and say, hey, man, they're right down the road from me. And so as the, what we're doing with the beef initiative, we are, we're building communities, what we're trying to do. We want every community now. That's how we win this game. We don't do it with a 300 or a $600 million processing center that's owned by the process or the producers. No, we go through there and we put establish a processing center and a market demand and a consumer demand on a community-based level.

• 2:22:26Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:27Speaker 02

  And that's what we're having a lot of success and it really is taking, you know, taking shape.

• 2:22:31Anthony Pompliano?

  Absolutely. Where can we send people to find you if they want to either talk to you more about some of the stuff or they just want to follow along as you keep building this?

• 2:22:37Speaker 02

  Well, we have a lot of touch points now. We've created a new media company that we're going to do an audio docu-series on Twitter. That's at TX Slim Media. And then of course, my Substack, which started it all. Is Texas Slim dot Substack dot com. That's where I sent you and that's where you can read from the very beginning as far as the harvest of deception.

• 2:22:57Anthony Pompliano?

  I read it twice. Well, I read the first time and I say, hey, I gotta go back. There's a lot in there. But, uh, and then your Twitter account?

• 2:23:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's at Modern T Man. And then of course, we have the Beef Initiative, which is at Beef Initiative. And one thing I want to point out is, you know, doing these, I call them a summit now. And we're having our next one at White Oak Pastures that I spoke of in the September 16th through 17th and 18th. We have Will Harris himself. We have Adam Currie that's going to be speaking there. We have people, we have a Heritage Roman Series. We have the ranchers coming in. We have Bitcoiners that are going to be speaking. Matt Odell and several other Bitcoiners spoke. So we're giving education across the board that are interactive conferences, events. And now it's basically a food intelligence summit is what it is. So we're only selling a hundred tickets and we want people to show up and we've had basically

• 2:23:49Speaker 02

  that many people and whenever they leave these summits, their, their, their lives are changing. And so that's why how we're growing is because it's grassroots. And you know, it's happening. So you can go to the BeefInitiative.com website and you can look at that and you can buy your tickets there as well. We're going to have more of these summits. Uh, we've actually now, we're going to have two in Australia. I'm heading to Australia at the end of January. This is just not a Texas thing. This is just not a national, this is a global thing. Uh, we're going to have a headquarters in Tennessee in Nashville there at Bitcoin Park. We've got a headquarters in Colorado out at Rick's Ranches. We're have a headquarters in Canyon, Texas, and then down there at the processing center, uh, south of Austin.

• 2:24:34Speaker 02

  We're building out these, we're building nodes and we're building beef nodes. And everywhere we go, building a beef node is it going to be a Bitcoin node? And you know, it's happening naturally. It's happening open source. We're crowdsourcing, we're crowdfunding. And you know, everybody's coming in and they're starting to realize this isn't some stupid Fiat marketing plan, man. You know, it really isn't. This is something that is grassroots. It really is. That's what's been exciting about this is that how much the Bitcoin community has caught on, how much the ranching community has caught on. You get a Bitcoiner, what we say is the Bitcoiners are going to orange peel the ranchers. The ranch peel, the ranchers are ranch pilling the Bitcoiners.

• 2:25:18Anthony Pompliano?

  That's great.

• 2:25:19Speaker 02

  It is, though. It's a perfect balance because everybody's, you show up at one of these summits, there's no strangers. Everybody gets along and they're all talking and they're all making these relationships. And man, we've got, I gotta go up to, I'm gonna go up to Idaho. I'm going up to Wyoming after the, the Georgia summit. And then, like I said, I'm going to Australia. I'm in talks with, you know, talking with the US Cattlemen's Association right now. This is happening and we're gonna punch hard, really, forward, really hard right now.

• 2:25:49Anthony Pompliano?

  I love it. Well, Texas Slim, I appreciate the conversation. I learned a bunch today and we'll definitely do it again in the future.

• 2:25:54Speaker 02

  Pump. Thanks for having me, man. Appreciate it.

• 2:25:58Anthony Pompliano?

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