Encounters x293 - Heartfelt Hauntings & Paranormal Pranks

This week’s Encounters episode brings a lighter, more playful vibe to the paranormal — featuring stories that are as heartwarming and weird as they are spooky. Whether you're into haunted photos, magical signs from beyond, or ghostly grandpas with a taste for seasoning, this episode will cast a spell on you. Stories Include: A mom’s spirit returns with flickering TVs and glowing kitchen lights — still making coffee at 11 p.m. A landline haunted by creepy voices that whisper names and growl — ghost or glitch? A garlic throwing grandpa bonds with his granddaughter from beyond the grave, and helps improve her cooking. In an invisible string theory story, one listener finds her home and her husband through a series of unbelievable coincidences. It’s weird, it’s heartwarming, and it’s a perfect reminder that sometimes the paranormal just wants to play. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenuvo in a couple of weeks.

• 0:05Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 0:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 0:47Corinne Vien?

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• 1:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 1:18Speaker 02

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• 2:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very spooky.

• 2:09Corinne Vien?

  Hey, everyone. This is Two Girls, One Goal. Two girls, one goal.

• 2:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we are your ghost sisters. That's Corinne.

• 2:17Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm Sabrina. And I feel like we should go on a little adventure to TJ Maxx Home Goods, because their Halloween decor is already out.

• 2:29Corinne Vien?

  Ugh.

• 2:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we should do some studio shopping.

• 2:33Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh, we should. Which, actually, if we have the studio as an excuse, maybe I can buy some things that have been on my list. I think it's a is it Crate Barrel or Pottery Barn? One of those has like really pretty black rattan bats. And they're beautiful. I love them.

• 2:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, we should pick like what our Halloween aesthetic. I know we've been working on that. We're trying to figure out what our, because we like to, not only do we dress up for Halloween, like all of our October episodes, we have different costumes. We like to have like a new ambiance and vibe.

• 3:05Corinne Vien?

  Something a little different.

• 3:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, especially now that we're in person and we have a studio. We're like up in our game. Our cameras are better, if you haven't noticed. You can see all of our

• 3:16Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to Sabrina for continuing to figure out, Sabrina?

• 3:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sabrina.

• 3:20Corinne Vien?

  For figuring out all of the settings on the camera.

• 3:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Shout out to our friends who have helped us because we know nothing. But yeah, so we should pick what our vibe is for the October.

• 3:31Corinne Vien?

  If people have suggestions.

• 3:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:33Corinne Vien?

  Let us know.

• 3:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Check out our Pinterest. We have some

• 3:35Corinne Vien?

  A ton of doll heads and we just hang them.

• 3:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A doll head garland?

• 3:40Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 3:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Terrifying. And I also feel like really sad dismembering dolls. We just go to that beach in Texas where all the dolls were washing up.

• 3:47Corinne Vien?

  That's what I was thinking. We gotta go to Texas. The podcast is gonna be paused for a few weeks as we go collect doll heads from the beach.

• 3:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What is our life? Truly. Well, because I posted this on Instagram. I like made a video of just like, never would I have believed if you told me when I was growing up that I would grow up and make a living talking about the paranormal. I wouldn't have believed it.

• 4:11Corinne Vien?

  Well, also when we were growing up, like what was the option for doing that? It's like you get a show on Travel Channel. That was like the only avenue.

• 4:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right, but even that just felt so-

• 4:19Corinne Vien?

  YouTube was like just starting.

• 4:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. And then like here I am now also like collecting haunted dolls. And apparently we're going to Texas to collect doll heads. Um, it's a gift. I'm grateful. And I also feel like how cool because life never happens the way you plan it to be. Or like the way that you think it's coming to.

• 4:39Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 4:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I think that's pretty neat.

• 4:43Corinne Vien?

  Pretty neat. And that's why we picked some heartwarming and silly stories to share with you today.

• 4:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're gonna be funny today.

• 4:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, or, or heartwarming. I'm not sure I picked out many silly. Maybe one.

• 4:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm in a silly Willie mood. Do you want to start then?

• 4:55Corinne Vien?

  Um, or no?

• 4:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, you start.

• 4:57Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I'll start. Get your funny bones ready. They're gonna be aching.

• 5:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's, that's a, a little bit of taste of how funny this episode's gonna be.

• 5:08Corinne Vien?

  Okay, this one, the story itself is not very funny, but the subject line is

• 5:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 5:13Corinne Vien?

  "How I Got Emotionally Attached to a Leaf", which I think is funny.

• 5:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that.

• 5:18Corinne Vien?

  "Hey gals, I wanted to share something that I thought was possibly a sweet sign from a loved one. My grandfather passed away a few months ago and it has been really hard on all of us. Recently, my mom dropped her phone in a pool and she was devastated since it had a bunch of voicemails and texts from my grandfather. We were talking about him and how we were sad about the phone being ruined when a pretty fall colored leaf fell from the sky right in front of us and into the pool. It was the middle of summer. We live on five acres. There are no trees around us. The trees that were the closest didn't match the fall colored leaves or the type of leaf that this one was. It could have been a bird maybe that dropped the leaf, but there weren't any around that we could see.

• 5:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And again, it's summer.

• 6:00Corinne Vien?

  And there's no trees around and the trees don't match the leaf. We've kept the pretty leaf in a journal where its memory has been kept forever. See you on the other side, ladies, and hopefully my grandpa too. From Kinsey."

• 6:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's like so special, right?

• 6:14Corinne Vien?

  It's like, oh, I just wish I had a sign. I wish I had a memento and he's like-

• 6:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He's like, don't worry, I'm here.

• 6:19Corinne Vien?

  Press this leaf into the journal. Here you go.

• 6:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like that's something you would do because when you moved back to the East Coast before I had, many years before I had, back in like 2017, that fall, you mailed like all of us in LA, like a little postcards with leaves that you pressed on to.

• 6:38Corinne Vien?

  Oh, it was 20, it was the pandemic. It was 2020.

• 6:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 6:41Corinne Vien?

  Cause everyone was super depressed. So I like went around and got a bunch of

• 6:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Leaves.

• 6:45Corinne Vien?

  foliage and then I mod podged them onto postcards and sent them off.

• 6:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So thoughtful.

• 6:50Corinne Vien?

  Little bit of color.

• 6:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's

• 6:51Corinne Vien?

  My mom used to pack up in like a gallon Ziploc bag, send a bunch of fall leaves from Vermont.

• 6:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Care package.

• 6:58Corinne Vien?

  As a care package, like overnight them to LA and then I'd tape them on my dorm walls and wouldn't take them off until they were like crispy and brown.

• 7:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is magic. That literally is magic. That's magical.

• 7:09Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 7:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have been telling Noemi, it's so funny because I don't have kids of my own yet, but I feel like I have this gift of being an aunt where I get to impart my witchy, magical ways onto my nieces. And so I took Noemi outside and was just like walking through the trees and like all the plants and stuff. And I was like, you know, if you're ever upset about anything, you can give your, your woes to the trees and they'll carry it to the earth and like absorb that energy for you. And if anyone wrongs you, you can tell the trees and they will like, the ecosystem will like

• 7:45Corinne Vien?

  Cause the trees are alive and they do talk.

• 7:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Exactly. And they'll protect you.

• 7:49Corinne Vien?

  We're gonna pivot one more time because you just reminded me, I literally saved it in my TikTok folders. There was a bunch of examples of like how to create more whimsy in your children's lives. And I was like, okay, this is gonna be something that I'm totally gonna do, but once Noah's slightly older, let me just find it really quick. The username is Amy McFarland. It's called making parenting a little more magical and whimsical. When you're tucking them into bed, say, I loved being your mom today. On emotional days, go outside and whisper your worries and your feelings to the wind. Trees.

• 8:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or the water.

• 8:22Corinne Vien?

  Wake them up in the morning with a kiss and say, the sun is waiting for you.

• 8:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's so sweet.

• 8:28Corinne Vien?

  Isn't it? Listen to fairy music and make your home feel enchanted. Decorate the dinner table together at night with candles and handpicked flowers.

• 8:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's very Matilda.

• 8:39Corinne Vien?

  Read your kids Shirley Barber books. Turn bath time into fairy potion soaks, adding lavender oil, dried flower petals. Call it the calming fairy spell. Making spells in the bathtub.

• 8:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like this is also something that I'm just trying to do in my own life. It's like romanticize everything and make everything whimsical.

• 8:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, live a whimsy life.

• 8:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Live whimsy.

• 8:59Corinne Vien?

  Live whimsy, live calm, live spooky.

• 9:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Slow and spooky.

• 9:03Corinne Vien?

  Play soft harp or forest sounds when your kids play. Spray lavender mist on the pillow at night. Call it dream dust. When it's windy out, call it the trees song and listen to what the trees are singing today. And that's just, they have a bunch of these, but that's just some of them.

• 9:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I've also loved saying, I'll meet you in the dream world. Like when they're going to sleep, like, like I'm going to sleep too, and I'll meet you in dreams.

• 9:28Corinne Vien?

  I've seen people, we're not age wise at this part where we have to convince Noah to go to bed. Cause I still have to hold him until I fall asleep. So, but one day.

• 9:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One day.

• 9:37Corinne Vien?

  But I've seen people say like, to have your kids pick out their dreams, like, what dream are you going to pick out tonight? And then have them start thinking about it so they dream about it.

• 9:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Noe does that. Noe says that she's going to dream about Mickey.

• 9:49Corinne Vien?

  Mickey Mouse?

• 9:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And this morning when I FaceTimed her, I said, what'd you dream about last night? And she said, Mickey. And I said, what Bree Bree dream about last night? And she said, Donald.

• 10:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, I don't know where this came from. All of a sudden she's saying, instead of just Bree Bree, she's saying, Bree Bree. Like Moira.

• 10:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's like an accent that comes with it. And it's like sophisticated.

• 10:14Corinne Vien?

  Oh, interesting.

• 10:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love it.

• 10:15Corinne Vien?

  I wonder what else she's, maybe she's gearing up to say your full name.

• 10:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, my sister was like, do you want her to call you Breeny? Cause everyone in my family calls me Breeny. And I was like, absolutely not. I am Auntie Bree Bree. And that is never changing.

• 10:28Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 10:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will forever be Bree Bree.

• 10:30Corinne Vien?

  Well, that's the thing, like my grandparents, my grandparents, my parents, when they picked out their grandparent names, they're like, we're just grandma and grandpa. Because who knows what's actually going to come out.

• 10:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right, exactly.

• 10:38Corinne Vien?

  Like, we'll just do the basics.

• 10:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, exactly. It's the best. Okay. Um, well, speaking of grandparents, this is about a grandpa and it is called non-believing garlic-throwing grandpa. Oh. And as an Italian garlic lover myself, this is a type of haunting I, I stand behind. Is it just like a bear cloak and you go catch the garlic in your mouth? You'll find out. Is it pickled? This is from Cecily and Pop Pop. Hey, girlies. I just today had the most fascinating experience at home and I had a witness. Hmm. My dad was visiting, helping me heighten my bed so I could store stuff underneath. And we spent an hour just talking afterwards about my mom, motorcycles, and making jokes about everything in life. He was at the front door after about to leave,

• 11:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  as in he'd pull down the door handle to open the door and walk out when my resident ghost made his presence known to us. We were just talking and then the ghost moved something in my kitchen, which he does now every single evening after dinner while I watch TV facing the kitchen half of my living room. He'll brush against some paper or a plastic bag and make a sound, which will freak me out the more it happens in a single night. But it's always the same two sounds. And I've tried hundreds of times to recreate the sound and no matter what I do, what I move or shift around, the sounds keep coming, like something being crinkled up or stepped on. And he never does this during the day, probably because I'm too stressed to allow for passage of his antics and pranks. But both my dad and I heard it at around 1:00 PM. And I asked my dad, did you hear it? And he nodded.

• 12:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I told him, that's grandpa. Oh. And he giggled. I was telling him that this happens every single night and again, my dad heard it. I didn't hear it this time, but then I faced the kitchen and asked out loud, grandpa, is that you? Could you please do that again? And nothing happened. He usually only makes these sounds two or three times a night. So I was really surprised it was happening in broad daylight while his son was visiting. My dad smiled and said, he might love making pranks on you. He didn't believe in ghosts in the afterlife, which I did a double take of because my ghost grandpa, who does daily pranks on me, didn't believe in ghosts or the afterlife? Well, how jazzed was he when he found out? Right. I'm still here. How great. I'm not worm food in the dirt. So I like to imagine him entering that form with a major shock and a big grin on his face,

• 12:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  rubbing his hands together like, wow, it's time to make some pranks and provoke some scares. My mom also remembers him being a big rascal, making jokes the second he met her. Now you may be wondering, Cecily, what do you mean he's a garlic-throwing ghost? Well, picture this. I'm sleeping on the couch in the living room following a terrifying bedroom haunting that I wrote to you about earlier, which has thankfully calmed. But I was scared to go into that room, and so for a good three weeks, couch sleeping. Yes, please, sign me up. I was waking up around 9:00 AM. The room was well lit, and my dog was cuddling in my arms, and I felt like I was being watched. Hmm. But I knew it wasn't my dog because her head was resting in my arms away from my face. But I was a bit morning mad, so I didn't really open my eyes. But then all of a sudden,

• 13:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  my dog perks her head up. So I opened my eyes and looked at her. She is staring into the kitchen. When I look over into the kitchen, I froze. There, in the air, about two inches above the countertop and four inches away from the side of the countertop were three garlic cloves hovering. Ah! I'm excited. You about to juggle? What the fuck? Tch, tch. My feet start to curl up under me. My hands are sweaty, my heart pounding, trying to escape either through my chest or my back, and my dog and I are just staring. I count in Mississippis. I reach three Mississippi halfway to four when the garlic cloves are thrown from the kitchen into the living room. Ah! Four feet from their starting point. Ah! I didn't know whether to laugh.

• 14:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And their starting point was them hovering in the air. Yeah. I got up, both of us still staring at the garlic, picked it up, placed them back on the counter, and just continued on. This is making me hungry. It was so frickin' scary. Oh. Oh, sorry, you were scared by it. But it's also, I think it's like startling scary more than like bad. Right. Vibes. Okay, now, some here are some content warnings. Mention of serious illness and death. My grandpa was an Eastern European man who lived through the Russian and Hungarian disturbances, basically a civil war. He smoked a lot, loved spicy foods, and enjoyed a good laugh. Sadly, I never met him, but he still has pictures up in my parents' house, and I have one of him, my grandma, and my dad as a three-year-old in my living room.

• 15:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My grandpa would show himself ever so rarely, but when I see him, he's wearing dress shirts with different patterns, jeans and a belt. Just like in every picture I've seen of him. He also has a noticeable beer belly and always has his hands in his pockets. He's a big character and when I feel sad or angry, I can feel him being upset that I feel these things.

• 15:19Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 15:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And he's always telling me when I need to add certain ingredients into my stews or potatoes. Even things I haven't used before.

• 15:27Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh. We, we always hear about like Italian grandmas, but like I love.

• 15:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love this.

• 15:32Corinne Vien?

  Russian grandfather.

• 15:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 15:34Corinne Vien?

  Russian grandpa coming in with some garlic and extra spices and.

• 15:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 15:39Corinne Vien?

  Add a little extra flavor, man.

• 15:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally throwing the garlic. He's like, I want you to make some garlic and food.

• 15:43Corinne Vien?

  Do, do some more.

• 15:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Towards the end of his life, sadly, he couldn't eat these good spicy dishes anymore because he was dying from throat cancer. So I believe he was throwing the garlic, saying, get your butt in the kitchen and make some spicy foods. It's been too long and I miss the smells.

• 15:58Corinne Vien?

  It's also just reminding me of the show Ghosts where all the ghosts like love Jay's cooking and.

• 16:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:03Corinne Vien?

  People are cooking so they can just smell everything. It's like, I need to still smell it. I need to still remember the food.

• 16:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Experience it. So yeah, that's the story of my garlic throwing grandpa who during life never believed in ghosts himself. I can hear him laughing at that and I find comfort in knowing that he's safe, happy and still visits me despite us never having met in life. He was always the one I was most sad I didn't get to know, but now I have and we're having fun together. Living life with the ghost of my grandpa has turned out to be the most fun thing that I never expected. Love and warm summer thoughts from Cecily and Pop Pop.

• 16:36Corinne Vien?

  That is really nice.

• 16:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like you're literally cooking with your grandpa.

• 16:39Corinne Vien?

  I know. This is, he's like your Ratatouille.

• 16:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

• 16:43Corinne Vien?

  More garlic. Throwing it. It is chaotic in the kitchen with grandpa.

• 16:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 16:48Corinne Vien?

  Grandpa's ghost.

• 16:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am curious like how grandpa communicates to Cecily that she needs to add certain spices.

• 16:54Corinne Vien?

  I was thinking the same thing.

• 16:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Especially things that she's like never cooked with before.

• 16:57Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 16:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That means he's tasting it.

• 16:59Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, somehow he knows. Yeah, I am very curious because given that the garlic thing scared her, I would assume it's not just throwing ingredients all around because I think she would tell us like that he grabs something out or like a spice will fall down.

• 17:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Maybe it's like a message in her head.

• 17:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Or like in the dreams or something.

• 17:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I also love that grandpa did make an appearance when his son was there. Like that's very special.

• 17:23Corinne Vien?

  Nice. Yeah.

• 17:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And so when I found that story, it really reminded me of. And I was trying to find similar stories along this vein of the listener who emailed us saying that when she was little, she would sit at the top of the stairs with cheese for her grandma.

• 17:37Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.

• 17:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, literally obsessed with.

• 17:40Corinne Vien?

  With like sneak cheese to her grandma's spirit.

• 17:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 17:44Corinne Vien?

  Not to like, think about my mom's passing, but I feel like that would be if my mom, if my mom, we all die, hopefully decades from now.

• 17:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 17:53Corinne Vien?

  When little Deb is 103 and she goes to the other side, that she's also coming back for cheese.

• 18:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Coming back for cheese. I think I've like been turning into my grandma the older I get.

• 18:04Corinne Vien?

  Oh, really?

• 18:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In like, the best way. Like, I'm honored to be turning into her. I'm way more nervous, Nellie, than I used to be.

• 18:11Corinne Vien?

  Black coffees, cigarettes.

• 18:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I'm like, smoking a pack a day.

• 18:14Corinne Vien?

  Listerine.

• 18:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Listerine. No, but like, American cheese, like, slices of white deli American cheese are truly my favorite thing in the world now.

• 18:23Corinne Vien?

  It is really good.

• 18:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's so good. I love Jell-O.

• 18:26Corinne Vien?

  You can be like a little dog, just put all of your, like, the pills that you have to take, wrap them in the cheese.

• 18:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The best. I can be hungry right now.

• 18:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Pre-Nuvo in a couple of weeks.

• 18:39Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like, one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like, what's going on.

• 18:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I recently had some medical issues in my family and everyone in my family is like, "Let's just do everything we can to get ahead and take our own health into our own hands." Pre-Nuvo's whole body scan is a radiation-free MRI designed to help provide a detailed, non-invasive look at your body in under an hour, and it helps evaluate across major organs and systems, including the brain, spine, abdomen, pelvis, and more. Pre-Nuvo's whole body scan can help detect many cancers, aneurysms, and hundreds of other conditions. And they have memberships that bundle MRI scans, blood panels, and a personalized results review to track your health year after year.

• 19:21Corinne Vien?

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• 19:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 19:53Speaker 02

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• 20:22Corinne Vien?

  This is called Coffee from Santa and Signs from Mom. Hi, ghostesses.

• 20:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Santa left coffee.

• 20:28Corinne Vien?

  Santa? I know him! Hi, ghostesses. My name is Emily and I discovered Two Girls One Ghost last year. And I've been working my way through all of your episodes from the beginning because my brain will only let me listen to podcasts in chronological order, even though your ghost switches up the order constantly.

• 20:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thanks, Sven. Honestly, thanks for staying.

• 20:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, thanks for staying.

• 20:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I saw someone...

• 20:48Corinne Vien?

  And for Sven to remind you of the chaos that is...

• 20:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is us. But then also to remind you that we've changed and grown and become better. Because, so someone recently, yes, we read your, I read your Reddit post.

• 21:02Corinne Vien?

  I do not. I do not read reviews or Reddit.

• 21:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I read it all, but...

• 21:06Corinne Vien?

  Why do I want my feelings? Don't your feelings get hurt?

• 21:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, because people aren't saying mean things. Like, someone was just like, "No hate at all, but like, I just started from the beginning. When does it get better?"

• 21:18Corinne Vien?

  Like, two years later?

• 21:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because, like, I guess, I mean, and this is fair, this is like, we're, we were, what, 22 years old?

• 21:26Corinne Vien?

  Well, we also didn't think that it was gonna be anything. Like, it was just...

• 21:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right, we're super young.

• 21:30Corinne Vien?

  It was like, starting a blog, basically, that we didn't think anyone would listen to. We had shitty mics that we couldn't figure out for like, a good year.

• 21:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, like, we were such babies, like, we didn't, we've grown up so much and learned so much throughout doing this podcast. We've become more in tune, we've, like, wanted to practice more, we've learned more, like, spiritual things, but we were calling everything demonic. We were scared of everything. And like...

• 21:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, after recording every single episode, you had to stay on the phone with me while I showered.

• 21:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I called you the other night when I was showering.

• 21:59Corinne Vien?

  It was the first time in years.

• 22:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was scared.

• 22:03Corinne Vien?

  Recently, there have been a few things that are scaring us.

• 22:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 22:05Corinne Vien?

  It's just like when we get too in our head, but I do think we've gotten a little bit desensitized to things. We have become a lot more exposed into like what different things are in different practices.

• 22:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, we're learning and growing.

• 22:15Corinne Vien?

  And also.

• 22:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wild how that happens with time.

• 22:17Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I really enjoyed being along the ride for your journey throughout womanhood in between all of the ghost stories. I've been wanting to write in with some of my own recent tales, so here it goes. I felt like this time of the year was a good time to share some heartwarming stories and some stories of family from the other side. So that's where I'll start.

• 22:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How sweet.

• 22:37Corinne Vien?

  I lost my mom to cancer this past September and it was very rough at the end.

• 22:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sorry.

• 22:42Corinne Vien?

  She was so strong when she was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2023 and went through chemo like a champ. But a routine check showed the cancer had spread to her brain. And within three months, she couldn't walk, she couldn't talk, and then she couldn't eat.

• 22:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is so heartbreaking. I'm so sorry.

• 22:59Corinne Vien?

  I know. She was a shell of the resilient, true crime and mystery-loving 70s game show-watching hippie lady that I was raised by. I was basically her only caregiver along with my husband, John, and we spent our first year of marriage back and forth from doctor's visits, treatments, and in and out of multiple hospitals and rehabs, watching her quickly decline mentally and physically. And then I got the call from her hospice nurse at 10:00 PM, September 6th, that she was gone. After taking care of her and her being my whole life for over a year, it was just over and I wasn't even there with her. The next day, my sister-in-law, my husband and I spent the day together. And I didn't know how to feel between it not feeling real that she was gone and it still doesn't,

• 23:43Corinne Vien?

  and the relief of her not suffering anymore.

• 23:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 23:46Corinne Vien?

  We didn't get around to ordering dinner until about 7:00 PM and I stayed home while they went to go pick it up. I got a call from my husband a few minutes later saying, "Go outside now." I go out and there is a huge double rainbow in the sky, the most vibrant sunset I have ever seen at our home in New Jersey. The last memory I have of seeing a glimpse of my mom's true self was two weeks before she had passed. We were in rehab, watching Bob Ross, one of her favorites, painting a beautiful sky. And she had been so happy to have that simple comfort. I think she was up there with Bob, painting the sky to show me that she was okay.

• 24:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I'm so sorry. That is like.

• 24:31Corinne Vien?

  Feeling emotional, even though we chose heartwarming.

• 24:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It is so funny how like the beauty of emotions that come with this is almost like more painful to feel than terror. Like I'd rather be scared.

• 24:45Corinne Vien?

  That whole week, I felt hurt everywhere. We spent the next day at her favorite beach, Ocean Grove. We brought a white rose from her room at Hospice and let it into the ocean. And on her birthday, two days later, we went to an antique shop, multiple antique shops. And in the front of one of the stores was a painting of a cow, which was her favorite animal ever.

• 25:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stop.

• 25:05Corinne Vien?

  With a white rose in its mouth.

• 25:09Corinne Vien?

  That morning, my husband and I were talking about our intimate wedding last fall and how happy we were that she was healthy and able to be there. And I suddenly had the feeling that we should consider having our own small wedding venue to run one day and to give others those memories. John asked out loud, what do you think, Bert? Should we do it? And right at that moment, a woman walked by with her daughter who screamed, yes! We didn't hear a single word from anyone else the whole time that we were there. My mom donated her body to science and the day that we received her remaining ashes, I couldn't sleep knowing that they were in the house. I finally got up from the couch to go to the bed and to shut off all the lights. And I walked by the spare bedroom that was briefly her room before she ended up in rehab for her final months and the TV turned on.

• 25:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm...

• 25:56Corinne Vien?

  I stood in shock for a minute and then quickly turned it off and ran into the bed in the pitch black of my apartment. And I was a little spooked. A few minutes later, I turned over in the bed towards the door and I noticed the light in the kitchen was now on. I know it was off because I was so scared to run in the dark all the way to my bedroom. And I know it was her getting comfortable back in the home with us.

• 26:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is so special.

• 26:17Corinne Vien?

  I know. So many signs. My gosh. Towards the end, she was waking up at random hours of the night, thinking that it was morning. So I think this was her trying to get her 11:00 PM coffee going. I love getting these signs from her since I'm not very religious. It has been hard to accept that she is gone.

• 26:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 26:34Corinne Vien?

  Not knowing where she is now, but there's so much more. But I will get on to my Christmas story. It's a quick one. So about 10 years ago, one day in December, I stopped at a Quick Check to grab coffee on my way to work. And when I tried to pay with my card, it wouldn't swipe and I had no other card or cash on me. The cashier started getting annoyed with me since a line was starting to build behind her. And right as I was about to say, forget it. A man spoke up behind me that I did not recall noticing in line before. He looked like an old trucker with white hair, a big white beard and a red puffy coat. And he said, I got it.

• 27:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Santa.

• 27:09Corinne Vien?

  He asked for a pack of Marlboro Reds, paid for my coffee and said, Merry Christmas, before going on his way. I'm honored Santa stopped to help little old me during his busy season. That's all for now. I'll write in again soon about your podcast ghost only wanting me to hear about your nipples? And a potential angel encounter in a doctor's office that I worked in. See you on the other side, Emily. And then we have photos of the sky and the rainbow.

• 27:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the cow. Please tell me you bought this cow painting.

• 27:40Corinne Vien?

  And the rose.

• 27:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, this is so special.

• 27:43Corinne Vien?

  So special.

• 27:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm really sorry for your loss because I, my heart aches for you. I can't even imagine that.

• 27:49Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 27:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And like the dichotomy of feelings and emotions that come with it of like, being grateful that she's no longer in pain, but it also not feeling real at all. But it's so clear.

• 28:02Corinne Vien?

  It's taken so much of your time in the past life too. It's like, or the year of your life. It's kind of like confusion about like your own time and what you're doing and.

• 28:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But you were with her like for so much of that time and I know that she is so, like it's so clear. She's still with you.

• 28:18Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 28:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And following.

• 28:20Corinne Vien?

  Message after message after message. And I'm very intrigued about the idea of a little wedding venue and I'm so curious if you and your husband, John, have started that.

• 28:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right?

• 28:30Corinne Vien?

  Because mom said yes. She yelled it.

• 28:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She yelled it. So you gotta do it. All right. I have a story from our listener, Sam, and it is called, My Landline Being Tapped By A Ghost, Tarot And Ghost Pranks. Hello, beautiful souls. Here's another encounter from your friendly psychic medium. This experience is based on an old farm home that was built in the 1920s with 20 acres of land, the place that I call home. This house was very active with spirits and of course, I have been sensitive to spirits since birth. So growing up in a haunted house allowed me to understand my power, but also frightened me at a young age. After a spooky dream or seeing things move around me without anyone being there, my parents chalked it up to, "You ate something funny that didn't settle with your stomach

• 29:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  and made you see shit that doesn't add up."

• 29:19Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 29:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, what, you eat like shrooms from tripping balls? Gosh, that was so frustrating. My dad had his own reasons to shut out spirits as he told me a story years ago that left me feeling very uneasy. Many moons ago, before his mom was diagnosed with stage four cervical cancer back in 1995, he was open to a tarot reading, which led him to shut out readings forever. The person who was reading his card told him that his mother would die very soon due to illness. This was before she was even diagnosed with cancer. She wasn't even aware she was sick. Keep in mind, this tarot reader had amazing skills and could pick up on my nanny's illness. However, in my practice, you should never say someone will fall ill and die.

• 30:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We are not in the space to diagnose illness. And if I see someone having heart issues, I kindly ask, "When is the last time they visited their doctor due to stress that they're undergoing?" That's one small example.

• 30:15Corinne Vien?

  I know, I was just gonna say, like, if you see something, I would wanna know, cuz I'd be like, "You're seeing that? Let me go get all the tests or tell someone to go get checked out, cuz it could potentially help." And then if nothing happens, then I'm just gonna be like, "Oh, well, that..."

• 30:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's just not correct.

• 30:30Corinne Vien?

  It just wasn't correct.

• 30:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But how do you, I think Sam makes a good point, like, how do you do it ethically without fear mongering and, like, also without interrupting and like getting in the way of faith? I don't know, I understand that, but that's a very complicated thing.

• 30:44Corinne Vien?

  I know. Cuz it also depends on the type of person who's receiving that message.

• 30:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But needless to say, my dad has a lot of feelings towards that particular experience with a tarot reader. Unfortunately, my nanny did pass away in 1996 from cervical cancer. And the loss of my nanny at the age of five left me feeling very sad. However, I did gain a spirit guide and angel who has been by my side every step of the way. So, back to this spooky haunted house I grew up in. I was a jokester as a kid. A great example, which I don't remember doing, but my mom received her income tax of a thousand dollars. And for whatever reason, she took the money out in cash. I took her money. And I hid the money in different spots around the house. Sorry, Mom. LOL. I also played a prank on my mom that backfired and left me feeling super creeped out. Because while my mom was showering, I snuck into the bathroom without her noticing. I jumped on the counter.

• 31:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was about seven years old. And I wrote on the foggy mirror, "I see you." With a sad face. I snuck out of the bathroom as fast as I could. And my mom didn't even mention seeing the creepy message for days until one evening while we were having supper. My mom asked, "Did you write that message on the mirror?" And I said, "Nope." And she believed me. I didn't have the best poker face either. But my mom took Windex and cleaned the mirror at least a few times in a month. So the message was completely gone. Months later, I was showering. And as I stepped out of the shower, the mirrors were foggy. And guess what it said? Written in the mirror were the words, "I see you." With a happy face. I was faced with, do I tell my mom I wrote the message and get in trouble?

• 32:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or do I keep this to myself? I was scared, so I told my mom. She swore she didn't write it on the mirror. It's also a happy face this time rather than a sad face. I don't know. I'm curious if she's playing this game too. But why would she do that to her like seven-year-old child? Well, there's a happy face. I know, but like if, if your seven-year-old is scared. Yeah. It's one thing for a seven-year-old to lie to you as a mom, be like, "I didn't do it." Okay. There was a lot of activity in that house, good and bad. And this is the time that I learned my lesson. Stop playing creepy pranks on my family in the house. Another creepy experience I had was, my landline was tapped by a ghost. Hmm. Being a nineties kid, I would call my friends using the landline and most of the time it was in the evening. We didn't have a cordless phone until I was like 17 years old.

• 33:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So, I was probably around 14 years old when I realized my phone was being tapped by a ghost. At this time, my best friend and I would spend hours talking on the phone. Until something caught my attention. I heard a creepy growl and a man say,

• 33:14Speaker 02

  Samantha.

• 33:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I said to my friend in a frightened voice, Katie, did you just say my name? She said, no. She was very confused and I tried to block it out of my memory, so I just ignored it. Oh, so she didn't, Samantha didn't hear, or Katie didn't hear it? However, this happened a lot. And this happened while I was alone in the kitchen. No one else was home and it was nighttime. Oh. Eventually it stopped, but it's something I will never forget. Oh, the ghost is just like listening to your phone calls. Like that. Okay, last story, but I have many more from my haunted home, so I'll write more soon. And also Sam has sent us like fifteen emails, so they're a lot. Oh, my gosh. So Sam is haunted. I have a beautiful great aunt named Mabel. I love that name. Someone who I never met, unfortunately. Mabel was born in the forties and went on a date one night with her boyfriend at the time. Let's call her boyfriend Bob.

• 34:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bob picked Mabel up one night to go out for a bite to eat and they were driving during a winter storm. And there was a semi truck with stacked logs in front of them. Something happened, and content warning for very gruesome death. Something happened and one of the logs went through the windshield of the car and decapitated my Aunt Mabel. Yeah, Bob made it out alive. My dad also told me that Mabel's dad, who was my great grandfather, read tea leaves, could see death following Mabel from reading her tea leaves, but he had no idea or knowledge of when it would happen. That is so terrifying. Dad loved Mabel so much and he was only thirteen when she passed away. What does this have to do with the house I grew up in, you may ask? Well, one day I asked Dad about Mabel because we had an old black and white photo of her sitting in our cabinet

• 34:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  that made me think to ask, what was she like? So my dad started sharing stories with me about Mabel and made me wish that I could have met her. Later that afternoon, I decided to go outside and you'll never guess what I saw on our driveway. That exact photo of Aunt Mabel that was in our cabinet was now in the middle of the driveway. What the fuck? What? It wasn't creepy, but more concerning that this was the only photo we had of her and it was almost taken by the wind. I immediately told my dad and he was shocked, had no words. He couldn't believe what he saw. To this day, I have no idea why this happened, or maybe it was just her communicating with us. At that time, I was shy with spirits and my ability to speak with them, so I placed the picture back in the house and said a prayer to Mabel. Thanks again for listening. See you on the other side, Sam.

• 35:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I liked, I think Mabel was like trying to prove that it was her because literally that same day, Sam had asked her dad about.

• 35:37Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I just keep thinking about how Mabel went. It's so, so sad, so terrifying.

• 35:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah, no, that does feel like, that's a far distance for a photo. That was presumably in a frame in the cabinet. Right. Had been tucked in for a very long time. And now it's in the driveway, in the middle of the driveway. That makes no sense. And hadn't been blown away until that moment that Sam was able to see the photo. Mm hmm. It was Mabel. Well, now I feel like we have to read all of Sam's emails and try to like gather information to understand who was saying Samantha on the phone. But I would haunt a landline and I would also listen in on conversations all the time.

• 36:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 36:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I want the tea.

• 36:16Corinne Vien?

  Samantha, do you have any siblings?

• 36:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Good question. But Sam said they were home alone.

• 36:21Corinne Vien?

  That's true.

• 36:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like the first time it happened.

• 36:23Corinne Vien?

  So I was like, well, Sam likes pranks. So pranks, the prankster energy could be running in this family. Pretty hardcore. Geez, I don't know. I'm like trying to remember if it was easy to like back in the day from landlines to get hacked. Cause remember like baby monitors? If you were on like a certain frequency, sometimes your baby monitor would pick up other people's baby monitors and sometimes even like, like cop cars and stuff like that.

• 36:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I do remember that like, if you have multiple landlines, like if you have multiple phones, like you could pick up another phone and listen in and like say stuff. Cause I remember my parents would do that all the time. Or I would do that to my parents. Um, but then also I've heard stories of like, I don't know what years exactly, but yeah, where people would pick up their phone and they'd hear their neighbors on their phones having conversations. Cause like your landlines are all connected.

• 37:08Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 37:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I don't know.

• 37:13Speaker 02

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• 37:43Speaker 02

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• 38:11Corinne Vien?

  This is called Invisible String Theory: You Decide. And this is from Lo. Hey mystical mamas of the morbidly macabre. Obsessed.

• 38:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mystical mamas.

• 38:25Corinne Vien?

  It's me, Lo. Pretty rad of you to read my stories before, but I just finished the episode on invisible string theory, and now all of these so-called random occurrences in my life have made so much more sense.

• 38:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, it kind of goes back to me saying, like, how crazy is it that we are doing this for our jobs? And it's like, I feel like everything in our life is like building, this like invisible string is like connecting us.

• 38:48Corinne Vien?

  That's true.

• 38:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, we grew up in haunted homes. You happened to say-

• 38:52Corinne Vien?

  Declaration of paranormal experiences.

• 38:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Brought us together.

• 38:57Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 38:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then we were friends for years prior to us doing this podcast.

• 39:03Corinne Vien?

  And even like when starting to listen to podcasts, you and I were like the first two people in a very large, large group to listen to podcasts.

• 39:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You introduced me to like spending time in Boston and Massachusetts, and now I live here.

• 39:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it was you were, you wanted to do a writer's retreat, and I was like, just stay in Boston, but like go to, go to this like little place in Marblehead so you can get away and walk around. And that's how you got exposed to Marblehead.

• 39:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. You are my invisible string. My whole life is connected to Corinne.

• 39:30Corinne Vien?

  And just fishing, and I caught ya.

• 39:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You caught me.

• 39:33Corinne Vien?

  Okay. So to tell you this story, we have to go back in time to when I graduated college after serving in the Navy. Joining the Navy was the first time I'd ever left home. I went from rural, everyone hates that word, but rural Pennsylvania to the Great Lakes, Illinois. From there, they sent me to Mississippi, and sorry to anyone who lives there, but I call it the armpit of America.

• 39:57Corinne Vien?

  It was always so humid and so muggy and the bugs were the size of small house pets.

• 40:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my god.

• 40:02Corinne Vien?

  So I hated it.

• 40:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That does sound horrifying.

• 40:04Corinne Vien?

  Until I met Daniel, whose name I've changed.

• 40:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 40:08Corinne Vien?

  Daniel was also in the Navy and we quickly found love and got engaged.

• 40:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 40:12Corinne Vien?

  He ended up getting deployed and had an accident and they sent him home for physical therapy. And when his temporary duty was up, they changed his orders to Virginia. So we spent the first entire year of our marriage apart because of that. When my orders were up, I could either get out or re-up for four to six more years. So I got out of the Navy so that he could continue on and have the military career. Dual military is very hard.

• 40:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, can't even imagine.

• 40:38Corinne Vien?

  Even if you are married, there's no guarantee that you'll be stationed together. And I didn't want myself or my husband to be geo-bachelors, as they were called. But when I graduated college, he wanted a divorce and I was devastated.

• 40:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sorry.

• 40:53Corinne Vien?

  He told me he didn't care and I would never have anything without him and would never make a name for myself.

• 40:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, well, thank god he asked for a divorce.

• 41:01Corinne Vien?

  Geez.

• 41:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Clearly, you deserve better.

• 41:04Corinne Vien?

  My god, what was that accent?

• 41:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so sorry.

• 41:06Corinne Vien?

  Did it get rocked in the head because this guy sounds like a dick?

• 41:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jesus.

• 41:09Corinne Vien?

  Me being my stubborn ass, I decided to try to make it on my own. So I rented a bedroom and I got a crappy job and I failed miserably getting into tons of credit card debt, all due to my pride. So I had to have my parents rescue me. They drove down and moved me out of that room and we drove home. And yeah, typical millennial having to live with their parents for a bit. That's not you, that's the worlds that we were given and the immense debt.

• 41:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like in the US, that seems like such a frowned upon thing, but in Europe and other countries, living with your parents is like such a normalized and like expected thing.

• 41:45Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 41:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Until you have your own family.

• 41:47Corinne Vien?

  Right, and it's also like, it's not very easy to not live with your parents if you wanted to be on your own.

• 41:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 41:52Corinne Vien?

  The world that has been given to us is not the most, it's not like it used to be.

• 41:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 41:56Corinne Vien?

  It's not like it used to be. Okay, so when I was back in Pennsylvania, this is important, remember that. I tried to find myself as a divorcee, living at home with zero direction in my life. I took on several jobs, I was trying to find a career. So I hopped around from job to job, chasing a better paycheck so I could hopefully one day move out of mom and dad's. And then the offer of a lifetime came in. I got a job offer from the Smithsonian Office of Protective Services. I was obsessed with Night at the Museum at the time, so I was stoked. Oh, my gosh. Also, this is just reminding me, remember when I had my quarter life crisis and I was trying to apply to be a Blue Man? But they don't accept women. I don't remember you doing that. Oh. You did that? Yes.

• 42:40Corinne Vien?

  Did you actually apply or did you? No, I filled out the whole application and then at the end realized that I wouldn't get it because I was not a man. What? That's amazing. I love a bald cap. If you know one thing about us. And drumming and catching things in my mouth, I thought I could do it. You could also go do like hibachi.

• 43:00Corinne Vien?

  Or I could just go to hibachi on Saturday nights. Blue Man, hibachi. I don't know. I swear I told you that. I don't remember. So my parents moved me down to Washington DC where I rented a bedroom for $800. Long story short, the job was pretty interesting, but I couldn't handle the financial stress of living in a city and the cost of living exceeding my paycheck. So again, my parents put me back home to Pennsylvania. Devastated once again to be living with my parents, I decided to try and see if I would qualify for a home loan. And to my shock and honor, the loan officer gave me 125K to play with. To play with. Monopoly. Monopoly. I searched for a place of my own for months, put in several offers and kept getting rejected.

• 43:43Corinne Vien?

  Until I was looking online and I must have seen this posting minutes after it went online. This was the spring of 2019, so the housing market wasn't that crazy, but people were snatching up homes fast. So I decided to just go in. And I took a tour that day and I made the offer and I was accepted. It was this cute newly renovated one bedroom farmhouse on an acre of land out in the country. Dreamy. It didn't look like much, but it was mine. And I loved the area too. My street connected to the next town over. I found all of these loops that I could run and walk the dogs on. And one of the best trails was way up in the mountain where all of these private hunting cabins were. I had a favorite and I took a picture of it. But mind you, these cabins were miles and miles away from my house, so you would have to drive up to them.

• 44:26Corinne Vien?

  On one of my runs, this house I would go by had a dog outside that would always have this raspy bark. And I would say, hey puppy and keep going. But one time he tried to follow me and the dog dad came out and said not to worry because he's super friendly. Every time I ran by after that, if the man was outside, he would wave and the dog would try to follow me. And this became our routine. One night after visiting my parents in the next town over, yeah, I lived really close to home. I can't get away. I was, you know what? That's not even not being able to get away because I have been seeing it so much with like my own friends and even my own draw to Vermont. I feel like everyone leaves and explores and then there's just like this immense desire to like go back to where.

• 45:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's what you know and like you spent time exploring other places and you like what you like.

• 45:15Corinne Vien?

  And if you liked your childhood too, like once you start having kids, you're like, well, I want that for them.

• 45:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly.

• 45:20Corinne Vien?

  Okay. So one night after visiting my parents in the next town over, I was behind a motorcyclist that was weaving around and I assumed they were having fun. But I honked to make sure that he wasn't drunk. He went from the inside line to the outside line back and forth until he pulled into the driveway. Thank God. But speaking of God, I was having a bit of a crisis of faith and my sister invited me to go to church with her and her husband. I decided to go one more time and I saw a very attractive grizzly bear of a man there. I know, I know. That's not what the church is for, but can you blame a girl? He was tall. He was tatted and bearded and just yum. My sister told me that he comes to church a lot and I should go talk to him, but I was way too chicken at the time.

• 46:01Corinne Vien?

  After seeing him there a few more times, I finally grew some huevos and I approached him as he was throwing something away. So I walked over to the trash can. I asked him if he was a veteran because he had one of those metal bracelets that they make for fallen comrades and he said, yes. I reached out to shake his hand over the trash can. And when I went to walk away, he asked me if I was a veteran and I said, yes. And he shook my hand and said, thank you. Then we both went back to our seats until the service was over and he came to talk to me and my sister and my brother-in-law.

• 46:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You know, that entire church service, he was just thinking about her and how he wanted to talk to her again.

• 46:36Corinne Vien?

  What a meet cute. I'm so curious how like the motorcyclist and the guy with the dog, how like if any of this is gonna tie together.

• 46:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 46:43Corinne Vien?

  We talked for a bit and he said that he had to go and we exchanged info. I'm not one for formality, so as soon as I got home, I sent him a text. And he said he was heading to work shortly, but it's okay because he lived close to the church. And I said, me too. So I told him the street I lived on and he said, me too. Okay, odd. We continued talking and decided to go on a date later that week. When we got to my house, he pulled up on a motorcycle, the same motorcycle that was weaving all over the road. That person I was worried about going into oncoming traffic was him. Again, odd. So on the date, we were talking about our birthdays because you know astrology, I gotta know for compatibility reasons. He said his birthday was in November. I said mine was in March and he said, what day? I said, the 24th and he laughed and said, mine too. So we both have a birthday on the 24th.

• 47:29Corinne Vien?

  Okay. After we made it official on September 24th, he asked me to be his girlfriend. Cute, right? And I didn't know men still did that, but he wanted to take me on a ride up to see his cabin. Stop. It was hunting season and he wouldn't shut up about it. So I figured that this was important to him. So we pulled onto the road and I felt my heart flutter because he turned into the driveway of the cabin that I love and took a picture of months before this. My mouth was agape. He looked at me and asked what I was thinking about. I told him, I love this cabin. I showed him on my phone that I took a picture of it almost a year ago to that day. He laughed and said, yeah, it's a nice cabin. A week or so later, he invited me into his house and I didn't realize this until recently,

• 48:14Corinne Vien?

  but his house number is the same last four numbers of my mom's phone number. That is also wild. What? He was showing me around. He told me that he moved back home and was staying with his parents. Yeah, same. And his grandfather had passed away in that house. He could still get a little skeeved out by that. So he bought it in 2019, the same year that I bought my house. What the fuck? So November rolls around, we're planning Thanksgiving and we figure it's as good as time as any to meet the parents. So his mom told him that she was gonna do Thanksgiving a day early because my guy had to work on Thanksgiving and she wanted him to spend time with family that day. When we get to the house, guess which one it is?

• 48:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, with the dog?

• 48:54Corinne Vien?

  Yep, that's the one. The house with the man who waves when I run and the dog that has a raspy bark. My mind, I have, I have immense chills.

• 49:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The dog, like even the dog knew, like the dog tried to follow you because the dog already knew.

• 49:08Corinne Vien?

  The dog is the matchmaker. The dog is the matchmaker. Oh my gosh. My mind is beyond blown at this point. I always felt this weird pull to come back home. I mean, I love it here. It's beautiful. My whole family's here, but I was a vagabond soul and for a long time I was just trying to make it on my own. But then I just always found myself back in Pennsylvania. When he got out of the air force, he was in Georgia and moved back home to be with family too, because he felt this pull to come back home. So what do you guys think? Is this the invisible string theory? Are these just weird coincidences? Am I absolutely bonkers? As my fiance would say, haha, yep, we're getting married. September 24th, which is a Tuesday, but we don't care.

• 49:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The day that they started dating.

• 49:51Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm. Yeah, it's their anniversary. It's my second marriage. Like, do people want to marry me? Fascinating. And he's pretty laid back, so it's gonna be chill. Stay spooky, low.

• 50:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Low. This is just such a beautiful story for so many reasons, but also just like, it's such a good message to people who might be out there struggling to find their purpose or like, find what they're meant to be doing and are starting over and like, it's okay. It's okay to go through that journey. I mean, like, I think about, I tried to start a blog about running. Like, that didn't do anything, but it was just like, there's just so many lives we live in our life. And just because you quote unquote fail, doesn't mean you're a failure. It means that like, there's something better and more attuned to who you are that's waiting for you to find it. And you just have to keep trying.

• 50:44Corinne Vien?

  And you can restart as many times over as you want.

• 50:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  100%.

• 50:47Corinne Vien?

  Like you mentioned Monopoly and one of my, I win Monopoly all the time, but it's because I let myself go into immense crippling debt. I like triple mortgage everything.

• 50:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You file for bankruptcy.

• 50:56Corinne Vien?

  And then I come out. I come out. Clean sweep, because I have all of the properties.

• 51:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So everyone rack up that credit card debt.

• 51:02Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, just do.

• 51:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For clothes on your homes. No, kidding.

• 51:06Corinne Vien?

  Actually, this reminds me. My parents are selling their house, as you know, and my mom just told me some stuff about their Realtor, who seems like the coolest person in the world. She is their Realtor now, but she used to be a like game warden in remote Alaska and would be dropped from a helicopter in the middle of like literally nowhere, like the remote Alaskan wildlife, to hunt down and track hunters to make sure they had permits and licenses to be hunting the Alaskan wildlife.

• 51:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is wild.

• 51:39Corinne Vien?

  And she's a boxer, like, I was like, where can we meet this badass Realtor? Like, what? And now she's in Vermont, just selling houses.

• 51:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Selling houses.

• 51:47Corinne Vien?

  So you can be anything you want to be.

• 51:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is so cool.

• 51:51Corinne Vien?

  Right? I was like, that's sick.

• 51:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love like hearing stories about that, just the many lives we live in this one life. That is such a beautiful experience. Actually, I was on TikTok and it reminds me of Low's story where someone, a girl and her friend like walked into a coffee shop and they walked past this guy who was like a motorcyclist. He was holding a motorcycle helmet and this girl and the guy like locked eyes. And her friend made a comment. She was like, that's the type of guy you're gonna marry one day. Six years later, they're at a party and she meets this guy who they start talking and he's like, it's so weird. Six years ago, I walked past a woman who like kind of looks like you and I've like never forgotten her.

• 52:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They are the two people who locked eyes that her friend made a comment, you're gonna marry a guy like that one day. Now they're married.

• 52:45Corinne Vien?

  I have full body chills. Like, it's like behind my ears.

• 52:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's just wild.

• 52:49Corinne Vien?

  The world just knows, the universe knows. And Low, to answer your question, because you said, is this an invisible string theory? Or are you just bonkers? I have never read a story that feels more invisible string theory.

• 53:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's wild. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Well, I have one story for us to end on and it's from Tiffany. And this is a story about our haunted podcast. I have a story for you. It literally happened yesterday afternoon back in 2023. So I listen to your podcast while I'm driving and yesterday afternoon I was driving alone, listening on my way to my daughter's gymnastics practice. My dad picks her up on Wednesday to spend extra time with her. I have the best dad in the world, sad note. And I was about 10 minutes into the episode when it stopped playing the podcast and started playing a song instead that I had never heard of. So I thought, huh, that's weird. And I turned my phone back on and I switched it back to the podcast. But about a minute later, it happens again. Hmm. Now I started to get weirded out. I put your podcast on and I hit play.

• 53:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I shit you not, it paused on its own and I instantly thought, oh my God, I'm having an experience while listening to the podcast. While also being a bit scared. I hit play again and it switched to a different song, which I don't remember the whole name, but it had the word ghost in the title. Ah. Now I'm full on panicking. I switched it back and then it paused and started on its own twice. At this point, I'm about to pull over, so I turn off the podcast. I call my dad because I tell him all my spooky weirdness and there's a lot, so you know, I tell him a lot. And my dad says, hi, and calls out to my daughter, Penny, your mom's on the phone. And I instantly hear her hysterically laughing. And that is when I realized my daughter was logged into my Spotify profile and was controlling what was playing. No.

• 54:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she starts yelling, did I get you? And she's laughing hysterically. I got so scared. Dang it. But Penny is laughing, I scared my mom, like chanting on the other side of the phone. She sure as heck got me. It was pretty funny. We laughed for the next few minutes. Thanks for reading to you on the other side. Oh, my gosh. That is hilarious. That is really funny. Your kid is hilarious. I'm imagining like Penny is like six years old and I don't know if that's true, but I just love that Penny is like. But just have, having the thought to be like, let me choose a song with ghost in the title too, to like really make it freaky. So funny.

• 55:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love it.

• 55:04Corinne Vien?

  It's okay. This is reminding me of the Bloody Joey story.

• 55:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I tried to look up stories similar to that, but like, I was like, what do you search?

• 55:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 55:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bloody Joey is a story we read early days of the podcast where, and I think we read it again in one of the like encounters where we read our favorites.

• 55:21Corinne Vien?

  We read, yeah, because we have a couple of encounters that we did last year or the year before.

• 55:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Last year.

• 55:26Corinne Vien?

  Where we brought back some of the stories that we reference frequently because now we're almost eight years into the podcast. And it's hard for us to be like, we read it at some point and people to know what we're talking about. So we brought back some of those like frequently referenced emails to put together.

• 55:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 55:41Corinne Vien?

  So people have like a little cheat sheet.

• 55:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To reference.

• 55:44Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 55:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But basically Joey had some Bloody Mary experiences throughout their entire town and you have to listen to the story to find out what happened.

• 55:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, this was a, this was a delightful one.

• 55:58Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, this was.

• 55:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I felt feelings.

• 56:00Corinne Vien?

  I forgot that we had picked a theme and I was like, look at us choosing heartwarming experiences.

• 56:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There is um, some method to the madness here.

• 56:09Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 56:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Organized chaos.

• 56:11Corinne Vien?

  Um, however, just because we covered heartwarming does not mean that you cannot send your story in because we revisit the same topics over and over and over again.

• 56:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also think about like how much, yes, there are similarities in these stories, but like we might do an invisible string episode in the near future, which could be heartwarming.

• 56:27Corinne Vien?

  Or like messages from loved ones. Like there's so many different things. So it doesn't matter what your story is. If you have an experience, please send it into us at [email protected]. There's other ways to support us. You can rate and review us on iTunes, Spotify, wherever you listen. Tell other people. That's a big one.

• 56:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yes. Subscribe to us on YouTube. And also if you want episodes one week early and ad free, uh, for just $5 a month, you can join us on Patreon and get all of that plus more.

• 56:53Corinne Vien?

  And if you have suggestions for Halloween costumes, Halloween decor, just different things for us to experiment with in October.

• 57:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 57:01Corinne Vien?

  Um, let us know.

• 57:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thanks for joining us. Thank you to our editor, Jamie, who makes us sound and uh, look beautiful, wonderful.

• 57:10Corinne Vien?

  We love you and we will see you on the other side.

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