Episode 333 - Paranormal Pets | Animal Telepathy, Spirits and Cryptids

In an act of selflessness, Sabrina celebrates Corinne’s birthday with something extra heartwarming (but still extra haunted): paranormal pets. From booze-lapping ghost dogs to time-slipping kangaroos, this episode is full of strange encounters that prove animals are far more in tune with the supernatural that we are… We meet a spectral black spaniel haunting a Scottish manor (believed to be the former home owner reincarnated), a spectral bloodhound who shows up nightly to drink from a long-dry stream of liquor, and a ghost chicken who hates public displays of affection. There’s also a pair of royal animal soulmates — a lion and a king who seemed to share a death date — and a truly unexplainable rash of phantom kangaroo sightings across the U. S. that defy logic, physics, and regional wildlife expectations. Plus, we’ve got a story from a listener whose dad may have reincarnated as a dog and then reunited with the family. Whether you believe in animal afterlives, cryptid creatures, or just love the idea of a “poultrygeist,” this episode is packed with heart, humor, and a healthy helping of hauntings. Book Mentioned: Mysterious America by Loren Coleman Newspaper articles source: curator135.com Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 1:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 2:09Corinne Vien?

  Hi.

• 2:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello.

• 2:10Corinne Vien?

  And happy birthday to you, Corinne.

• 2:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thanks.

• 2:15Corinne Vien?

  I forgot it was my birthday episode, I do it right now. Because we're recording it a few weeks before, but thank you.

• 2:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 2:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I feel so... Am I turning 32?

• 2:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, I keep forgetting.

• 2:24Corinne Vien?

  Or are we 32 or 33?

• 2:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're turning 32.

• 2:26Corinne Vien?

  Okay, I feel so 32.

• 2:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's so 32 of you to forget how old you are.

• 2:33Corinne Vien?

  It's all a blur now.

• 2:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was still ID'd the other day, so that felt great.

• 2:38Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 2:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 2:39Corinne Vien?

  Tell me about it, where?

• 2:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  At Ledger in Salem.

• 2:42Corinne Vien?

  No way.

• 2:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But they ID everyone, so.

• 2:44Corinne Vien?

  Oh, okay. I actually did get ID'd and I was like, what the fuck? I went to go get my dad a Father's Day gift, so I went in and I was like, "Do you guys have Blantons?" Which, if you're underage, you don't know what Blantons is.

• 2:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, Blantons is a nice whiskey, yeah. Or bourbon, sorry.

• 3:01Corinne Vien?

  Right, so I was like, "Do you have Blantons?" And then the, like, women were whispering. And then when I showed my ID, the one woman was like, "I told her that you were of age," but she was like, "You need to make sure to ID this girl." And I was like, "That is insane." Like, I'm like withered coming in, like, "Do you have Blantons?" Like, so many wrinkles.

• 3:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The bougie 20-year-old drinking Blantons.

• 3:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, anyway, I felt, I felt nice that one woman, who was in her 70s, thought that maybe I was underage.

• 3:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you look beautiful, you're radiant, you're glowing, you look like you're in a cult right now with your white.

• 3:32Corinne Vien?

  I know. I got rid of almost all my clothes, so I like really, truly don't have much to record in.

• 3:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm very impressed with you. I will like to say I've come to the conclusion that a capsule wardrobe is just not for me. And you made a suggestion, you're like, "What if we had more of like a uniform for our recordings?" And I was like, Corinne, but then I can't write off spending so much money on clothes. Like you can't do that to me.

• 3:55Corinne Vien?

  A lot of clothes for these episodes. And I buy, I get rid of my clothes.

• 4:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, so.

• 4:01Corinne Vien?

  But maybe I need to start coming up with a wardrobe of my own to wear here.

• 4:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're getting there.

• 4:06Corinne Vien?

  You'll walk into the office next time and there'll be like a rack of just like, I walk in and get dressed.

• 4:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like Alex Cooper has her like all her sweat sets.

• 4:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 4:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The unwell ones.

• 4:15Corinne Vien?

  See, that's what I need because I got overwhelmed by my closet and I purged just about everything, but to the point where now I don't have anything to wear.

• 4:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm. You could show up nude.

• 4:24Corinne Vien?

  Oops, I could, but.

• 4:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We'd probably get a lot of followers, but we'd get kicked off most platforms, but OnlyFans would take us in.

• 4:32Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 4:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Um, hi.

• 4:36Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 4:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  By the way.

• 4:37Corinne Vien?

  This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 4:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two Girls, One Ghost. And we are your Ghostesses. That is Corinne, the birthday girl, the glowing, beautiful birthday girl.

• 4:46Corinne Vien?

  Feeling comfortable.

• 4:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, and I'm Sabrina. I wish we had like a extra light to radiate you. Oh.

• 4:56Corinne Vien?

  Here we go. Extra light for all of us.

• 4:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, I had a brilliant epiphany and I also thought it was very funny, so I'm going to share it with you here today and with all of you. So I love the summer and I love sitting out in the sun and tanning and getting bronzed and sun kissed. But I was like, we're basically roasting ourselves. Like we're literally.

• 5:16Corinne Vien?

  We're damaging our skin.

• 5:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're baking. And so I was thinking about how people tan differently, right? But I'll use Pena as an example. He is a very pale, white boy. And I was like, oh, like you don't tan, you just burn. I'm like, you're a shrimp. Because shrimps start out like grayish, white, and then when you cook them, they turn pink. And then I was like, I'm a steak, an ice fillet.

• 5:39Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 5:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where you like roast it. So we're all pieces of meat that we just burn.

• 5:44Corinne Vien?

  I think I'm a smore. I turn a bit orange.

• 5:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, do smores turn orange?

• 5:49Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, if you get them golden.

• 5:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I guess you're right. Yeah.

• 5:52Corinne Vien?

  You burn yours.

• 5:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love burning a smore.

• 5:54Corinne Vien?

  Hmm. Oh, my gosh. Sorry. This is like.

• 5:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 5:58Corinne Vien?

  Such a stupid pivot.

• 5:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I like you.

• 6:00Corinne Vien?

  But you talking about that just reminded me, I just learned about the boiled frog theory. Have you heard this?

• 6:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, what's this?

• 6:06Corinne Vien?

  It's like not something frogs would actually do, but it's basically saying like, if you stick a frog in a pot of boiling water, they'll notice and jump right out. But if you stick a frog in normal temperature water and slowly, slowly increase the heat, they'll never know that they're in danger until it's too late, which is not actually true of frogs, but it's basically like a life lesson of...

• 6:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I was like, who's testing this out?

• 6:28Corinne Vien?

  Right, no.

• 6:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who's torturing these poor frogs?

• 6:30Corinne Vien?

  I hope no one's actually torturing the frogs, but basically it was like a lesson in life. That essentially like sometimes little things happen so frequently. And if it doesn't feel like one big thing to shock you and be like, oh, I need to recognize this isn't good for me, then sometimes you don't notice until you're boiling and it's really bad.

• 6:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I like that theory. The slow burn, sometimes you don't notice.

• 6:53Corinne Vien?

  Slow burn.

• 6:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's happening? That's a great transition because while we're not talking about boiled frogs today, we are talking about pets because Corinne, you like heartwarming stories. And when I think of you, I think of pets, I think of, um, whoa, why did I just forget his name?

• 7:10Corinne Vien?

  Wrinkles?

• 7:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wrinkles. I almost said like whiskey and I was like, why?

• 7:14Corinne Vien?

  Because he's got nice whiskers?

• 7:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe, and we were just talking about bourbon. And then I think about wrinkles and then I think about cryptids. So I put together an episode that kind of puts everything that I just stated together. And I also, right now, have six foster cats. I have a mama and her five kittens. I was writing this episode by like sitting with them. They're so small that they're still nursing, like they don't eat any other food yet.

• 7:42Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 7:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But that also means that they don't know how to use the litter box and, um, so it's a bit messy.

• 7:49Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God, but how sweet. How long are you gonna have them?

• 7:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Just until Saturday, because then I go to LA. They just needed someone quickly and I was like, I can do it temporarily. But look at how cute they are.

• 8:00Corinne Vien?

  So sweet.

• 8:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And look at all six of them nursing, or all five of them nursing a mama.

• 8:06Corinne Vien?

  How's Leia doing?

• 8:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, you know. We're keeping them separate. Oh, but they're polydactyl. So while that means they're not dinosaurs, because I always get that confused, they have extra toes. They have opposable thumbs.

• 8:21Corinne Vien?

  Is that just like a genetic thing, or is that specific to a breed?

• 8:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So Mama has like seven toes.

• 8:26Corinne Vien?

  Whoa.

• 8:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But, and I might be misinformed here, but what I remember being told many, many years ago is that it's common amongst like incest and inbreeding with cats.

• 8:38Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 8:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is common, like if cats are in the same area.

• 8:42Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 8:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They crossbreed with.

• 8:43Corinne Vien?

  Oh, interesting.

• 8:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Family members. So this is the Paranormal Pets episode. And you're lucky that this fell on your birthday because it's episode 333.

• 8:54Corinne Vien?

  Oh, so it could have been so spooky.

• 8:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  About to double down. Three, three, three, times two, six, six, six.

• 9:01Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 9:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And be spooky as fuck. But we're gonna do heartwarming.

• 9:05Corinne Vien?

  Okay. I'm actually shocked that you did, because I feel like you could have easily pivoted and been like, oh, we'll just do the encounters all heartwarming.

• 9:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I did this for you.

• 9:13Corinne Vien?

  Thank you.

• 9:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're welcome. I think we already recorded your birthday encounters. I don't even know what we did.

• 9:18Corinne Vien?

  I don't know either.

• 9:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Couldn't tell you.

• 9:21Corinne Vien?

  We're just chugging along this year.

• 9:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So we're talking about ghost pets, pets with paranormal abilities, and so much more. And I feel like we talk about so many ghosts on this podcast, human ghosts, but we don't often talk about spectral animals. And there are a lot of them. Some of them are scary, some of them are tragic. I try to stay away from those. And instead of talking about hellhounds and not deer and scary creatures in the woods, we are going to talk about a couple of ghost dogs, a paranormal bond at the Tower of London, a ghost chicken, and we're gonna round it out with some ghost kangaroos.

• 9:56Corinne Vien?

  Interesting. I've never heard of a ghost kangaroo.

• 9:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you're about to hear.

• 10:00Corinne Vien?

  Why can't there be?

• 10:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're running rampant, hopping rampant, all over.

• 10:04Corinne Vien?

  Boxing the crap out of.

• 10:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:06Corinne Vien?

  Others.

• 10:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, they're kind of.

• 10:07Corinne Vien?

  Ever been punched by a ghost? Maybe it was a kangaroo.

• 10:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was a kangaroo. Okay, so there are a lot of ghost dog stories and we covered a few in the past and I just wanted to highlight those episodes in case people want more of them. In episode thirteen, we talked about, I think, a couple of different ones. It was a whole pets episode.

• 10:24Corinne Vien?

  I remember that.

• 10:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So we did the Hound of Goshen, which is an avenging ghost dog in South Carolina. We talked about the Belmont Hillsborough Protector, Preston the Boxer, who is this like amazing boxer who saved a child one night on Halloween and continues to protect children and like make sure they get across the street safely. And then we also talked about Nightlife, who is a ghost dog that shows up at parties, literally a party animal, which I did not remember talking about that one, but I love it. Okay, and then episode twenty-seven, we talked about Greyfys, Kirk Yard, the cemetery in Edinburgh, where there's Bobby, the ghost dog that roams the cemetery. And then episode eighty-two, we covered, and this one was sad, but the Overton Bridge.

• 11:07Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yes.

• 11:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where sadly and tragically, a lot of dogs have, for some mysterious reason, continued to jump off the bridge.

• 11:16Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and I will say, it does, in a way, it feels like we've covered a lot of stories for only having three hundred and thirty-three researched episodes, but also not enough, because that's not, that's like just a handful.

• 11:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I, I mean, I think we have some scattered throughout or like mentions. I think in, in the White House episode, I think you talked about the demon cat, like the ghost cat that's supposed to haunt there. And then in the Tower of London episodes, I did talk about the spectral bear and animals that are sometimes seen.

• 11:46Corinne Vien?

  And there's a lot of others, just like animal hauntings trickled throughout where like, there'll be like a little chihuahua that haunts someplace or whatever, like the back of a bar.

• 11:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, so we're going to begin. I thought I wrote, we're gonna begin this amazing episode, but I wrote, we're gonna begin with an amazing story.

• 12:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But this is also an amazing episode.

• 12:06Corinne Vien?

  Believe in yourself.

• 12:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is a story about ghost dogs, reincarnation, and Scotland. And it's also going to set up what I'm researching for my next episode, so Ooh. Episode 335, because as I was doing this, I was like, wait, this story is so juicy and there's so much more to it. So I'm just telling you that I'm giving you a teaser for next week, but I'm giving you the specifics about the dog.

• 12:29Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 12:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is called the Balakhan House, and it's considered the most haunted house in Scotland. But the hauntings begin with a man who believed he would be reincarnated as a dog.

• 12:40Corinne Vien?

  One second, sorry.

• 12:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What?

• 12:42Corinne Vien?

  If this is my birthday episode, then Sven should be celebrating.

• 12:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh. Sorry, there is no reason for Sven to not celebrate me.

• 12:52Corinne Vien?

  There we go.

• 12:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Woohoo, Sven is so festive.

• 12:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We gave him lockjaw, though. Now that Sven is ready, we can continue.

• 13:01Corinne Vien?

  Sorry, yes.

• 13:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so the hauntings begin with a man who believed that he would be reincarnated as a dog, so deeply that it may have come true. So our story is about Major Robert Stewart, who, after serving in the Indian Army and becoming fascinated with Hinduism, he returned to Scotland convinced he would one day inhabit the shape of a black spaniel, so much so that he told everyone, everyone.

• 13:24Corinne Vien?

  He was manifesting it.

• 13:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And

• 13:27Corinne Vien?

  Writing it into

• 13:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Existence.

• 13:29Corinne Vien?

  Existence.

• 13:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally. And so he lived in the Balakhan House, which we'll talk about the history of that more in two weeks' time. But in order to make this transition easier, he lived around upwards of 14 dogs. And his idea was that, like, one of these dogs would basically serve as his vessel when he departed this earthly plane.

• 13:51Corinne Vien?

  Oh, so he's just kicking the dog's soul out to take it over? He's possessing a dog?

• 13:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I, he, listen, it didn't work out that way, because upon his death, his nephew inherited the house. And his nephew's name was, did I even write it? No, because I don't like him.

• 14:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  As the stories should be told, if you don't like someone, write them out. Don't share their name. But this nephew, and I don't know all of his basements behind this, but he was not keen on the idea of his uncle returning. Maybe he was like, this is my house now. I don't want uncle coming back. So he very sadly ordered all of his staff to like, kill any dog that stepped foot on the property. This is my birthday episode? That's the saddest part of this whole episode. Oh, there is death of a chicken later, but. Oh, my God. But that didn't stop Major Robert Stewart, because he was like, you think you beat me?

• 14:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, no, no, no. I'm gonna come back as a spectral dog. So do what you may. You can't get rid of me. So one day, his nephew's wife is like sitting in the study doing something when all of a sudden, this like wet dog smell emanates throughout the whole house. And she's like, what is this? And then she like gets up to go investigate and she feels something nudged against her leg, almost like a dog, kind of just like rubbing up against her. She's very confused. As time is passing by, more and more people start to report the smell, the feeling of a dog walking past them, people seeing a large black spaniel crossing rooms.

• 15:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One witness watched his own dog greet the phantom dog very happily and like playfully. Visitors spoke of persistent thuds like a wagging tail striking a door when no animal was present. A guest in the home had brought their own dog and they were sleeping at night and woke up to their dog like jumping around and playing. And they're like, oh, does our dog have the zoomies? I think this is back in the 18, 1900s. So they probably were saying the zoomies.

• 15:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then they noticed that their dog is not playing by themselves. They're playing with what looks to be another dog, but there's something wrong. It is a bodyless dog with just two detached black paws. And as they noticed, these black paws like jump up like excitedly and the paws land on the bedside table next to them. So I imagine like the little dog be like, hello. And then it disappears.

• 16:22Corinne Vien?

  I'm so curious too, because if so many dogs lost their lives on this property, I'm curious if this is him in some way coming through as a dog, or if this was one of the dogs.

• 16:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I don't know. And I also don't know how many animals actually did get killed on the property. I'm hoping none, but I think that's wishful thinking.

• 16:44Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 16:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Either way, that's the ghost dog of Balakon House.

• 16:49Corinne Vien?

  Sounds like a very happy dog.

• 16:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's so much more to these hauntings, including like an entire society that formed in this house to do paranormal investigations. Yeah, which we will talk about in two weeks.

• 17:01Corinne Vien?

  Ah, I wish we could just trade episode schedules so that we could just learn about it next week, too.

• 17:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 17:09Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 17:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'll still have to finish my research. Okay, now our next paranormal pup is a little bit unusual. It is the Postbridge Bloodhound, who is more of a paranormal booze hound.

• 17:22Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 17:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because this kid is, because this kid, this kiddo, this dog is not protecting kids on Halloween or avenging anything, and he isn't some guy reincarnated. Actually, though, saying that out loud, I'm like, it actually would make sense if it is someone reincarnated or a spirit of a human showing up as a dog.

• 17:42Corinne Vien?

  Mm.

• 17:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because, well, let's travel through time and space real quick to the village of Postbridge in Devon, England, where in 1861, a tin miner named James Webb buys some land. He buys like two acres of land and he was gonna build his home there. And then instead, he's like, you know what? You know what our town is missing? A pub. So he asks permission from whoever he asked permission from. Hey, can I build an inn/pub? Approval granted, stamped, signed, sealed, delivered. Go on, go forth, sir. So 1863, he opens his pub, The New Inn. And for years, it was the local watering hole.

• 18:19Corinne Vien?

  It was called The New Inn?

• 18:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 18:21Corinne Vien?

  I like that.

• 18:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The New Inn.

• 18:23Corinne Vien?

  It's just new in town. It's The New Inn.

• 18:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's.

• 18:25Corinne Vien?

  Have you been over to The New Inn?

• 18:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, that, literally.

• 18:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's it called? The New Inn?

• 18:30Corinne Vien?

  The New Inn!

• 18:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like a little lazy.

• 18:33Corinne Vien?

  I like it, though.

• 18:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so for years, it's a successful pub and inn. But then he passes away. I think this is like 1889 now. And so James passes away and his son inherits it. His son's name is John Webb. But around this time, it's 1889, so it's like leading into the prohibition era. There's like a political, societal, religious movement called the temperance movement that a big part of it was that alcohol is the demon's drink. So it's a movement to push away from drinking. And John, and there's like a whole story about how like John's wife was very pious and was like, "John, stop drinking." And he stops drinking, but I'm like, "Why blame the wife? Like, the whole world is not drinking."

• 19:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So, anyway, John is basically urged to cut back on his unholy activities of drinking. And he decides to take it one step further. And if he's not gonna drink, if his wife's not gonna drink, if his friends are not gonna drink, his clients and customers aren't gonna drink either.

• 19:35Corinne Vien?

  Oh, wow.

• 19:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So he rebrands the inn entirely. I mean, this is also like the government. We're leading into prohibition. So it's about to become a law.

• 19:45Corinne Vien?

  The religious part of it is weird because what was their religion? If it had anything to do with Christianity? Did Jesus not turn water into wine?

• 19:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, Moira.

• 19:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, that's actually a good question. During the prohibition movement, were churches allowed to serve the blood of Christ?

• 20:02Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 20:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Those priests were getting fucked up between...

• 20:05Corinne Vien?

  Jesuit priests?

• 20:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:08Corinne Vien?

  Those guys be boozing.

• 20:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He rebrands the whole inn. He changes the name to the Webb Temperance Hotel. Again, a little bit lazy, but on the nose.

• 20:19Corinne Vien?

  Here's the thing, they weren't competing with a ton of other businesses, right? Like, they didn't have to file for...

• 20:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I guess it's no longer new.

• 20:25Corinne Vien?

  Right, yeah.

• 20:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 20:27Corinne Vien?

  It's old. Middle-aged, middle-aged inn.

• 20:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So John Webb not only rebrands the whole inn and gets rid of all the alcohol, he makes a show of it, like a very dramatic display of no longer serving alcohol at the inn. He takes all of his barrels, all of his casks, all of his gin, his whiskey, his beer, and dumps them into the roadside ditch. There's so much alcohol that it turns into a stream that flows into the nearby river.

• 21:02Corinne Vien?

  I feel like if I were someone who was trying to figure out who was actually secretly serving alcohol, that over display of following rules would make me think that he was just like an underground, like he was the like ringmaster.

• 21:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It wasn't illegal yet, so.

• 21:19Corinne Vien?

  Okay. So he was just really doing the most.

• 21:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So he makes this dramatic display. And you might be asking, Sprin, like where's the ghost dog in this? Well, the ghost dog enters that very evening. So as night falls and the stream of brown and red weird, what's it called? Jungle juice that is flooding the the stream.

• 21:41Corinne Vien?

  It's like playing the game moose.

• 21:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's that?

• 21:44Corinne Vien?

  It's where you have you have an egg carton. It was a New England game, but I made people play it in L.A. sometimes.

• 21:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, now I'm upset you never.

• 21:50Corinne Vien?

  There's a bowl. No, be happy. There's a bowl, just a large bowl. Everyone who plays pours a little bit of their drink in. So it's a concoction of yuckiness. There's an egg carton that you prop up and then you bounce a penny. If it goes on the right side, I think that means you like take a sip, however many sips of yours. So if it goes up like three, you take three sips of your drinks. If it's on the left, you give out however many. If it goes into the bowl, everyone has to put their moose antlers up.

• 22:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And whoever's last?

• 22:19Corinne Vien?

  Whoever's last has to drink the bowl.

• 22:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The whole bowl?

• 22:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it's really dangerous game. Don't play it.

• 22:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So do you want to celebrate your birthday later?

• 22:27Corinne Vien?

  No.

• 22:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyway.

• 22:29Corinne Vien?

  I don't even drink hard liquor anymore.

• 22:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyway, so that night, as night falls, locals see a dog walk up to the river and fully lap up the booze.

• 22:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then to add to it, this dog then vanishes into thin air.

• 22:48Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 22:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And ever since that night, people have seen the same spectral dog that looks like a bloodhound continue to come at 3 a.m.

• 22:57Corinne Vien?

  Looks like a bloodhound.

• 22:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Every night, even well after the alcohol dried up, to this stream lapping up the now invisible alcohol.

• 23:07Corinne Vien?

  I'm curious, did people talk about the dog just as a dog? Or were people saying this was like a hellhound? Because it makes sense if they're like, oh, the alcohol is of the devil.

• 23:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 23:18Corinne Vien?

  And now there's like this hellhound, demonish, beastly, ghost, dog creature that's coming to drink the devil's juice at 3 a.m.

• 23:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That would make sense, but from the articles and things that I was reading, it seemed very like, what's up with this ghost dog who's drinking the like alcohol stream?

• 23:36Corinne Vien?

  Boozing it up.

• 23:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And even to this day, people report seeing the ghost dog doing this.

• 23:41Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 23:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that's why I'm like, okay, well, maybe it does make sense. It's a reincarnation or like a spectral form of a human being showing up as a dog.

• 23:49Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 23:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like the original owner, James Webb, like he'd be like, not all my precious money gone to waste. Well, someone has to drink it, you know?

• 23:58Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 23:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So now the inn is renamed the East Dart Inn, and people swear to hear a dog walking around click clacking with its little nails in and around the property.

• 24:12Corinne Vien?

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• 24:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 26:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So now, we're going to talk about the very deep bond between humans and animals, and how sometimes that leads to them passing away at the same time. And I found two stories that are quite strange, but also interesting. Okay. So this first story is from the Tower of London, which I had not heard the story when I was doing my research, which we covered the Tower of London in Episodes 209 and 210. In that episode, we did talk about the royal menagerie and the various animals from all over the world that the kings kept on their property. But this story is of King George II. It's the 18th century. And during this time, I believe that the lions that were a part of the menagerie,

• 26:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  they named like the dominant male after the king. That gave us his namesake. So the male lion is also George. And George II apparently built quite the bond with his lion counterpart, so much so that when George II fell ill, so too did the lion George. And within days, George the lion passed away, and then so too did King George.

• 27:10Corinne Vien?

  That's weird.

• 27:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that weird?

• 27:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 27:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I feel like the lion passed away first so that he could be waiting for King George.

• 27:17Corinne Vien?

  Oh, as his protector to bring him over.

• 27:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  On the Rainbow Bridge.

• 27:20Corinne Vien?

  Or was this like a case of extreme heartbreak and stress, you know?

• 27:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 27:25Corinne Vien?

  It depends because I can see where someone in that position would feel such immense stress and feel so isolated, whether they display that to the public or not.

• 27:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 27:35Corinne Vien?

  Like to feel so alone because everybody who interacts with you wants something from you, but the only thing that doesn't, aside from maybe just like food.

• 27:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 27:46Corinne Vien?

  Is an animal.

• 27:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. They're more pure.

• 27:49Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 27:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I also don't really know how often King George the Second was like visiting his lion and, you know, his home menagerie. I feel like, I mean, there's a lot of, we're not gonna do it, but we could have a whole conversation about how like, it's unethical to keep animals like this, you know, so.

• 28:08Corinne Vien?

  Do you remember at LMU when they brought a lion to school?

• 28:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was the saddest thing in the world.

• 28:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that was the last time they did that because we, every, all the students were like, what the fuck?

• 28:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my, it was awful because our mascot is the lion.

• 28:21Corinne Vien?

  LMU Lions.

• 28:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And they thought it was a good idea to bring a lion.

• 28:25Corinne Vien?

  Which was like in a cage.

• 28:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To the campus.

• 28:28Corinne Vien?

  In the hot sun.

• 28:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 28:30Corinne Vien?

  In the middle of, yeah, everyone was pissed, so they did not do that again, that's for sure.

• 28:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so a similar story is of an entire pond of fish in Normandy that felt King Henry the Second's death quite literally and dramatically. So King Henry the Second was in his castle at Exme, which is five miles from this pond in Normandy. And just hours before the king's death, out of nowhere, these fish begin to attack one another, like killing one another until not a single one was left alive.

• 29:04Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 29:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And as the last fish died, legend says so too did King Henry the Second.

• 29:09Corinne Vien?

  That is really creepy.

• 29:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I don't think King Henry II was like visiting fish on his time off.

• 29:16Corinne Vien?

  Right. Well, it almost makes, how did he die?

• 29:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's a question. I don't know.

• 29:21Corinne Vien?

  It made me wonder if there were like some sort of political, whatever wars or something. And this was kind of like a display of the forces that would eventually end him.

• 29:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 29:31Corinne Vien?

  Like, almost like an omen or like a warning or just like a replication of what was happening, but in fish form and accelerated.

• 29:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I really don't know.

• 29:39Corinne Vien?

  That is weird.

• 29:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And like, there was only one mention of this story, like I couldn't find it anywhere else because King Henry I died by eating some type of fish, even though he was like told not to. So that dominates the internet when you look it up. Okay, well, now we're gonna pivot to Gus Chicken.

• 29:59Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 30:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is the first chicken put on ice.

• 30:05Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 30:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 30:06Corinne Vien?

  Because my mind first went that it's like on ice, like when you go to like a fish market and then they have the fish. And then my second thought was like, it's wearing figure skates and it's on the pond.

• 30:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, Disney on Ice.

• 30:17Corinne Vien?

  Disney on Ice, but it's the chicken performing.

• 30:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, the chicken is kind of performing a little bit and a little bit, there's a lot of drama with this chicken, but it's also sad. There's death of a chicken here.

• 30:27Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 30:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But our story begins with Sir Francis Bacon, who we have all heard of, but he was an English statesman, a philosopher and an early scientist born in 1561. Sometime in 1626, Sir Francis Bacon became intrigued by and determined to experiment with meat preservation. So it's a cold January night and Sir Francis Bacon was traveling with the king's physician to Highgate. He was, you know, shivering in his itchy, scratchy clothing, trying to stay warm in his layers, when all of a sudden, the cold helped an idea come to mind. What if we could use the snow to preserve meat?

• 31:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And he says this out loud and the physician goes, "My kind sir, Sir Francis Bacon, that is a brilliant idea." And so he's so elated that he encourages Francis Bacon to experiment posthaste. And he's like, "Reroute the carriage." And they, instead of going to the castle, they reroute to in town. There's this like woman who has chickens. So they buy a chicken from her. They have her pluck the feathers, gut it. Yes, they killed the chicken. And this is not like an easy, quick thing. So, you know, she's doing her work. And in the story, it says that Sir Francis Bacon, as she's doing this, goes outside to grab the snow. But I'm like, the time here isn't really working out.

• 31:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But Sir Francis Bacon apparently spent a lot of time outside while she was prepping the chicken. So I like to imagine he built a snowman or two, then gathered the snow. By the time that the woman was done plucking the chicken, he comes inside and he stuffs the chicken with the snow.

• 32:09Corinne Vien?

  Oh, he puts it inside of the chicken?

• 32:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Inside of the chicken.

• 32:11Corinne Vien?

  Oh, weird.

• 32:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because this, I mean, it's early days, but no one's ever done this before. He didn't know what else to do. It's not a bad idea.

• 32:17Corinne Vien?

  Wait, when was this?

• 32:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  1626.

• 32:19Corinne Vien?

  Where was this?

• 32:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Highgate, UK, England.

• 32:23Corinne Vien?

  It's just weird because like trading routes existed. And I'm just thinking about all the Nordic, northern hemisphere indigenous groups that like, we're already doing that with moose, with bear, with elk, caribou, whales. Like, that was already kind of like a practice to use ice.

• 32:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 32:39Corinne Vien?

  I don't know either.

• 32:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Either way.

• 32:40Corinne Vien?

  You gotta do some research, but that's interesting.

• 32:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is the first time like it's happening where Sir Francis Bacon is. There was, I think, there was a movement in this time where people were trying to do meat preservation. So like, maybe there is some overlap with others. But he is stuffing the chicken with ice. He's determined to test this theory, but in his posthaste and in his building of a snowman and spending a lot of time outside, Sir Francis Bacon caught a chill, one that turned deadly. And within two days' time, Sir Francis Bacon died from pneumonia. And ever since his death, people have reported seeing a spectral white bird, without feathers resembling a plucked chicken, running about in circles in Pond Square, before then disappearing into the ether. A poultry geist, if you will.

• 33:28Corinne Vien?

  That's good.

• 33:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did not come up with that, but it was very applicable.

• 33:33Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that I like that.

• 33:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I waited to land it.

• 33:35Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Nice.

• 33:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thanks. And there are so many encounters with this poultry geist in 1943. Aircraftman Terrace Long was crossing Pond Square late at night when he was startled by the sounds of a horse and carriage. So he like looks around, but he sees no horse and carriage.

• 33:50Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 33:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then just as that sound disappears, the sound of a chicken like clucking comes in its place. And he sees this white plucked chicken running and clucking around. And then he disappears.

• 34:05Corinne Vien?

  My mind is now going, just if he hadn't passed away, would he still have died by having bad chicken?

• 34:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But he didn't eat it.

• 34:13Corinne Vien?

  But how would he have tested if it was?

• 34:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's true. Like if he didn't die from the cold.

• 34:18Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 34:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Would he?

• 34:18Corinne Vien?

  Would he have still died?

• 34:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or from the chicken? Had he not spent so much time trying to preserve meat? It's so interesting how like he was trying to use the snow to preserve meat, but the ice and the cold killed him.

• 34:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 34:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's ironic.

• 34:32Corinne Vien?

  He was working with ice to find a way to sustain.

• 34:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Life.

• 34:36Corinne Vien?

  Life.

• 34:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it killed him.

• 34:38Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 34:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's also a lot of debate over Sir Francis Bacon's like death and all of this stuff that I didn't get into, but if people are historians, don't at me. Okay, so then in the 1960s, a stranded man saw the same plucked chicken running in circles again before disappearing. So it's very similar encounters where it's like the chicken running in circles, which is very sad.

• 34:59Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 34:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And makes me think it's a residual haunting. But then there's this one encounter, which I enjoy, and I think it's very funny. This ghost chicken decided, I don't like romance. Because one day, there's this couple canoodling in the pond square. It's 1970. And they are entangled in a passionate kiss on a park bench.

• 35:21Corinne Vien?

  Oh, romance.

• 35:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  When all of a sudden.

• 35:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This ghost chicken starts running in circles around the park bench, scaring the living daylight out of this couple that they like sprint out of there as fast as possible.

• 35:35Corinne Vien?

  Oh no, I thought it was gonna be like a Disney scene where like it runs circles and then like sparks start to fly up and then they're levitated in their kiss and they're just like floating in their embrace.

• 35:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This ghost chicken was like, "Excuse me, no PDA in my pond."

• 35:50Corinne Vien?

  Yuck.

• 35:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like a chaperone at a school dance. This couple like looks back to see where this chicken came from and where it went and it's gone.

• 35:58Corinne Vien?

  Isn't that so weird? Like, I don't think the UK just has rogue chickens running around, you know?

• 36:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it's like specifically in this pond square where the story of Sir Francis Bacon like getting a chicken and trying to preserve meat happened.

• 36:13Corinne Vien?

  Would you ever have chickens?

• 36:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In theory, yes. I think in practice, no. It'd be a lot of work, a lot of upkeep.

• 36:21Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, because they're dirty in their cages.

• 36:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My neighbors have some, so I wake up to the they're very chatty.

• 36:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. In the North where you can have chickens, you just have to apply for permits.

• 36:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's a lot of them actually in Marple. When I go on my walks, I see a lot of their little hens, pens. What are they called? Crates, cages?

• 36:41Corinne Vien?

  What are they called?

• 36:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Pens?

• 36:43Corinne Vien?

  Hen pens?

• 36:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hen pen?

• 36:45Corinne Vien?

  No, I feel like it's, there's, there's, has to be another word for it. A chicken walk?

• 36:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's not what I was thinking of.

• 36:51Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I think it's called a chicken walk.

• 36:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, that's wrong.

• 36:55Corinne Vien?

  Chicken coop!

• 36:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Coop!

• 36:56Corinne Vien?

  And then the walk is when you have like an enclosed whatever for them to walk around in outside of their chicken coop. The coop!

• 37:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The coop.

• 37:04Corinne Vien?

  The coop.

• 37:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's what we were looking for. Okay, so I told you I was gonna include a cryptid in this.

• 37:11Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 37:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So our final story is about the ghost kangaroo, which is a very strange phenomena, mystery, potential cryptid that has been lurking in the United States.

• 37:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. In the US? In the US, which is why it's like, this is not a kangaroo, because it's the US. We don't have kangaroos hopping around. No. Who started this lore? Was it the Australians? No, it was the, uh, Wisconsinonians. Good old Wisconsin. Had some bad cheese and suddenly they were hallucinating some ghost kangaroos? And then it traveled throughout the country. It crossed state lines. It has been all about. It's hopping around. It is hopping around. Okay, so there's a lot of mystery with this and, and it's gonna be left open-ended. Far out of their natural habitats, but close to home to us, are some ghost kangaroos. I'm kinda scared I don't want to encounter one.

• 38:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For over a century, people across multiple states have reported sightings of kangaroo-like creatures hopping through cornfields, standing on country roads, and even peeking into living rooms. How do we know that it's cryptids and not just an escaped group of kangaroos? So that's the thing with this cryptid and this entity, this kangaroo. There are so many stories that have kind of spread, but some of them can be traced back to an escaped kangaroo or like a zoo situation, but a lot of them are just open-ended. Cold cases. The kangaroo cold case. One of the earliest sightings was recorded in 1899 in Richmond, Wisconsin.

• 38:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was June 12th, 1899, and a storm was ripping through town when a woman saw a kangaroo leaping across her backyard. And she was certain it was a kangaroo. A whole investigation was brought into this because people were like, if there's an escaped kangaroo, like, we should get it back to where it belongs. There were no kangaroos in like local zoos, and there was a circus traveling through town, but they didn't have any kangaroos in their circus troupe. So it was a mystery. Things go quiet. There are no further reports until 1934 in Hamburg, Tennessee. The newspaper headlines read Giant Kangaroo-Like Beast Spreads Terror in Tennessee. Vicious Kangaroo-Like Animal Terrorizes Marion Settlement.

• 39:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Tennessee's Odd Animal Seen Again.

• 39:38Corinne Vien?

  Hmm.

• 39:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Officers scoff at marauding animal. In the span of a week, this kangaroo beast was, and this is, this is the only like violence reported with this entity.

• 39:50Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 39:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This beast was reported multiple times killing ducks, massacring geese, taking the lives of beloved German shepherds. And keep in mind kangaroos are considered herbivores. They are only violent if like they feel threatened.

• 40:05Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, like a territorial sort of situation or something?

• 40:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, even then, like if they have killed people, it's truly a territorial thing and they don't then eat the person.

• 40:16Corinne Vien?

  Right, they're not predators.

• 40:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. So this behavior is unusual, that it's killing all these animals. Unusual on top of the fact that it's unusual that they are hopping around in the US. So the entire town gets together to track the beast. And they follow the tracks to a cave. But the cave, like, once the tracks go into the cave, the tracks completely disappear, which makes me think about the cave system with like all of these beliefs that there are cave systems under the Appalachia and that they're actually like little portals into different places.

• 40:49Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 40:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How is it getting from state to state so quickly?

• 40:52Corinne Vien?

  Totally.

• 40:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The caves.

• 40:53Corinne Vien?

  Which it's like the whole thing with the missing persons map overlapping with the cave system. It's like, did people disappear into the caves or did something drag them into the caves?

• 41:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Unknown. Also, there's a website called Curator 135 that like has so many article, like the newspaper screenshots that I was like, thanks for doing a lot of the work for me. So a lot of the images in the YouTube video come from that article and that website. So shout out to you. So the townsfolk never found the beast. They followed the tracks to the cave and then it was gone.

• 41:24Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which also makes me think that no one wanted to go into the cave looking for it, but perhaps it teleported to another state, to New Jersey. Because in May's Landing, New Jersey in 1900, a family reported a strange sound coming from their barn. Upon investigating, they saw a creature that looked like a kangaroo, the size of a baby cow. They estimated at least one hundred and fifty pounds. And it bounded out of the barn at an unbelievable speed and then disappeared off their property.

• 41:53Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 41:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And this was another common thing that everyone who saw it was like, okay, maybe I don't see kangaroos every day. So like, I don't know, but it feels like it's moving at really weird speed.

• 42:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 42:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the hops, like the space between each footprint would be massive.

• 42:13Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 42:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I also don't know much about how far a kangaroo can hop between each hop.

• 42:18Corinne Vien?

  Me neither. If it was using its tail, wouldn't there be like a tail indent too to propel it forward? I don't, I don't know how kangaroos work.

• 42:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, then that's another thing is that some of these stories say that it would hop off and then there would be no trace left behind.

• 42:33Corinne Vien?

  Maybe these ghost kangaroos are similar to Bigfoot in that they're just because they vanish without a trace. An interdimensional being.

• 42:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 42:40Corinne Vien?

  Opening up portals.

• 42:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is a theory. So nineteen hundred scene in New Jersey. And then in nineteen oh seven, I don't know, presumably it spent six years in the whole tri-state area. It's in Pennsylvania. And it's nineteen oh seven in Pensburg, Pennsylvania, where multiple reportings are happening. It is spotted near Pleasant Run. Many of the witnesses stated that the creature moved extremely fast, appeared to hop or bounce. Those who saw it at a moment of stillness reported that it looked gray in color, had large feet and a tail, but that it had a head that resembled a sheep.

• 43:16Corinne Vien?

  Which, well kangaroos.

• 43:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kind of do. Yeah.

• 43:18Corinne Vien?

  They're like in between like a dog and a sheep.

• 43:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 43:21Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 43:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And a deer.

• 43:22Corinne Vien?

  And a dingo.

• 43:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then in nineteen seventy four, so there's like a good chunk of time where there aren't any like massive sightings. There's like one or two one offs here and there, but it's almost seventy years later. Chicago is now harassed by this kangaroo beast.

• 43:40Corinne Vien?

  Like downtown Chicago?

• 43:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Garfield Ridge, the neighborhood of Chicago.

• 43:44Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 43:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So it started in October. A woman named Ruth Owens calls the police. And I'm sure this dispatcher was like, okay, this lady crazy. But Ruth Owens reports that there is a kangaroo on her porch, trying to break into the back door.

• 44:01Corinne Vien?

  This is so far beyond a spectral sighting because these things are spending a lot of time, are very visible.

• 44:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very. So naturally, the dispatcher is like, okay, lady, but she calls it in. And so two officers show up to their house, very dubious, probably like, this is gonna be an easy one.

• 44:18Corinne Vien?

  She's hallucinating.

• 44:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Yeah. But they arrive and they see it. The kangaroo-like beast is still there, which is also wild because that means that it's been there for some time. And then they do a standoff. They stare each other down. And then the kangaroo hops off towards the back alley. The police officers give chase, running after it on foot. But when they get into the back alley, poof, the kangaroo is gone. They investigate and there are no reports of missing animals. They check all the zoos. Nothing. And also keep in mind, like, another whole theory here is maybe there's someone who's keeping exotic pets illegally.

• 44:59Corinne Vien?

  Right. Yeah. Yeah.

• 45:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But in all of these states, in all of these instances, and they're not reporting it?

• 45:06Corinne Vien?

  Unless there's some nomad with a pet kangaroo that just travels around.

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• 46:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In the days that followed this report in October, multiple other reports come in. Drivers swore they saw a kangaroo crossing the road in front of them. One man claimed that the creature leapt over a fence that was nearly 10 feet tall, which again, I don't know how high kangaroos can hop. Another said it moved too fast to be real, like it was skipping through time. And the newspapers called it the Chicago Phantom. And it became a full-blown media phenomenon all over the country. People were cracking jokes about, talking about, pontificating about. Paranormal investigators were like, is this a tulpa? What?

• 46:47Corinne Vien?

  Kangaroos can run up to 44 miles per hour.

• 46:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That is crazy.

• 46:53Corinne Vien?

  Of course, it looks like they're going through. Holy shit. Okay, kangaroos, jumping height, around 10 feet.

• 47:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so it's possible this is a real kangaroo. But it keeps disappearing and vanishing into thin air.

• 47:10Corinne Vien?

  Sometimes they're known to jump 25 to 30 feet in a single bound, too. Powerful leaps forward. So that would make sense why there's such a huge gap.

• 47:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, if I saw that, I would for sure.

• 47:22Corinne Vien?

  What are these beasts that you guys have out in Australia?

• 47:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And apparently in the US. But so a lot of people are like, okay, is this mass hysteria? Like, we've heard the reports. Now it's like everyone else seeing it because it's being talked about a lot. Is this some interdimensional being? Are there portals that it's like traveling through? Is there a time slip? Because if you think about Pangaea, at one point in time, all of the continents were together. That maybe there's presumably all these animals were like walking all over the different areas.

• 47:56Corinne Vien?

  And that is why there are lake monsters.

• 47:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 47:59Corinne Vien?

  All over. And why mermaids exist everywhere.

• 48:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. So then, oh, there's like a bunch of articles where, okay, this one called, "Help, Call Task Force." And I think it's like talking about police activity that week. "She Throws Left, Police Hightail It." That's the title of the article. And then, four years later, in 1978, a family was sitting down for dinner and Wakusha, Wakasha? What Kesha? Wisconsin, when a noise outside caught their attention. A kangaroo jumped through their backyard and they all saw it. And again, when they tried to give chase, no kangaroo in sight. But it could have jumped 30 feet and

• 48:41Corinne Vien?

  Or just, yeah, high-tailed it up to 44 miles per hour.

• 48:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, we're not catching that.

• 48:45Corinne Vien?

  Geez.

• 48:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two other men in town claimed to have seen and taken a photo of this kangaroo beast. But the photo is like very, very difficult to find on the internet. So if anyone finds it, let us know. And remember how it all like started in Wisconsin? It is interesting like that the last like really big report of it in 1978 is back in Wisconsin. So it returned home to its roots. But my favorite article and my favorite term for this being, I can't take credit for. But it is called UHO, an unidentified hopping object.

• 49:20Corinne Vien?

  Hopping!

• 49:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bless you. It was so funny that you couldn't laugh, you had to sneeze.

• 49:27Corinne Vien?

  I didn't know where it was gonna go. I thought it was like humanoid or something.

• 49:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A Humane Society official called it a wild kangaroo chase. But members of a suburban family insisted Thursday that the animal seen jumping through their southeastern Wisconsin backyard was definitely not the common rabbit, cat, or dog. It was pretty quick, it was hopping, and we knew it had to be a kangaroo.

• 49:46Corinne Vien?

  Somebody needs to come forward and claim their lost kangaroo.

• 49:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But also, how long do kangaroos live for?

• 49:52Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, how long did this stretch?

• 49:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because this happened from, the first report is 1899. But there are reports all the way to today. Like 1949, a bus driver saw it hop across the road in Ohio. 1963, someone saw it in Santa Clara, California. A sighting in Buffalo in 1964. For a decade in Minnesota, residents were seeing it in 1957 to 1967. Again, in Ohio, 1968, New Jersey, 1989. Back in 2019, again, there's another report in Wisconsin, back to its roots, where police were called around 7 a.m. to a bridge near Fox City Stadium, where a kangaroo had been spotted. And upon arrival, there's no evidence of a kangaroo. All the local kangaroos were accounted for in zoos, any like exotic animal zoos and everything.

• 50:39Corinne Vien?

  Which is wild too, because it's not, like if there were a family of kangaroos, we would know.

• 50:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:45Corinne Vien?

  Right?

• 50:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right. You would hope, you would think.

• 50:47Corinne Vien?

  Okay, what's your guess on lifespan before I click search?

• 50:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I want to say like Fifty to seventy years.

• 50:55Corinne Vien?

  Honestly, that makes sense because I was gonna say seventeen, but given that every fact I've thought-

• 50:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's probably way less, but-

• 51:01Corinne Vien?

  Is wrong. I'm gonna guess thirty-four.

• 51:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay. It might be like seventeen.

• 51:05Corinne Vien?

  Six to eight years in the wild, but can live up to twenty years or more in captivity with proper care.

• 51:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would say the wild is probably, yeah.

• 51:11Corinne Vien?

  The record for a red kangaroo living in the wild was twenty-seven years.

• 51:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, but so definitely not from eighteen ninety-nine to present day.

• 51:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 51:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So, these sightings have happened so often, and like I said, there are some instances where like people have been able to locate said kangaroo and bring it into captivity or take it off the streets. But what about all these other instances and all of these unaccounted kangaroos hopping around the US? There is a cryptozoologist named Loren Coleman, who has written a book and done so much research about this. So if you want to read more, he wrote a book called Mysterious America, all about these sightings, like a whole timeline, documenting them, trying to find evidence of like any reports of missing kangaroos and theorizing of what it could possibly be. What do you think it is?

• 52:05Corinne Vien?

  I have, like, I kind of think it's, it's weird because it seems like it's a real kangaroo, but given just like the-

• 52:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where we are.

• 52:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and like across different states and different times, it's like, how often are there these rogue kangaroos that never get caught?

• 52:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 52:20Corinne Vien?

  For a hundred years. That's so weird.

• 52:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it would be one thing if it was Australia, right? Because you'd be like, okay, it's Australia, there's kangaroos. We've never had a documentation of a kangaroo species habitating in the United States.

• 52:36Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 52:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which also makes me think, and I always think of this story, we read it many, many years ago, but from our listener Ken, who experienced an alien abduction and was on an alien spacecraft and saw like these exam rooms where all of these different creatures and like interdimensional species, not just from Earth, were being replaced in certain areas to try to help keep them from going extinct.

• 53:01Corinne Vien?

  Are kangaroos going extinct?

• 53:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I'm like, or- Our kangaroos breaking loose from the spaceship and hopping through Wisconsin. I don't know.

• 53:10Corinne Vien?

  I don't know.

• 53:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's such a weird mystery.

• 53:12Corinne Vien?

  Maybe you can outrun a spaceship if you can hop forty-four miles per hour.

• 53:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We don't know the rules.

• 53:17Corinne Vien?

  No, we don't.

• 53:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah, those are your paranormal pets. Happy birthday.

• 53:20Corinne Vien?

  Thank you.

• 53:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am so excited too because, okay, so there's another story that I was gonna do, but it would, it needs its own full episode. But it's of ni- ni- ke- skeet skeet skeet motherfucker.

• 53:35Corinne Vien?

  Ah skeet skeet skeet motherfucker. Ah skeet skeet. Hot damn.

• 53:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, hold on, let me close my eyes because I'll visualize the pronunciation. I think I have a photographic memory. Um, oh, in Kisi. It's this bird, an African gray bird that-

• 53:50Corinne Vien?

  But how do we start talking about ah skeet skeet?

• 53:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Because I couldn't, I was trying to pronounce it, but I mispronounced it.

• 53:56Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 53:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's in Kisi. It's like N apostrophe K I S I.

• 54:02Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 54:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I almost said mm skeet skeet. Okay, here we are. But it's this amazing story that has been so heavily researched and documented and tested about a woman, I think her name's Amelia, I can't remember her last name, but she owned this African gray parrot named in Kisi that could read her mind.

• 54:23Corinne Vien?

  Telepathy.

• 54:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Telepathy. And they literally have done like over a hundred and sixty-five tests to test the telepathy between them. And, I mean, of course, it's science and, or not science, and the people are,

• 54:37Corinne Vien?

  Well, if it includes telepathy, people say that.

• 54:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's such a cool story, and I'll just give you one little teaser, but I want to like cover it and give it its whole episode. It also like, the bird was, the vocabulary was like over eight hundred words that Amelia had taught to this bird.

• 54:52Corinne Vien?

  Birds are very smart.

• 54:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very smart. Like truly, he read her dreams.

• 54:56Corinne Vien?

  That is so crazy.

• 54:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. And then, when she was watching a movie one night, like he was in the other room, and he, or she, I don't know, gender of the bird, would say things that were about to happen in the movie before it happened.

• 55:09Corinne Vien?

  It's like truly a familiar that everyone else gets to experience.

• 55:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. Um, what listener story do you have?

• 55:15Corinne Vien?

  Okay. So interesting that your first story was about someone coming back as a dog, because this is very appropriate for the listener story I picked out. It's called, "My Dad Died and Came Back as Our Dog."

• 55:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 55:28Corinne Vien?

  Hi, girls. My name is Elena and I recently found out about your podcast through a friend. And ever since I have been hooked and I think I would honestly die if I ever heard one of my stories on one of your videos.

• 55:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, don't die.

• 55:40Corinne Vien?

  Surprise. Stay alive. You never know if we're gonna read more. I often find myself relating to other people's stories since I inherited some abilities from my grandmother who is a witch.

• 55:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh.

• 55:50Corinne Vien?

  I've only seen her twice in my life because she lives in a whole different country. But last time I spent like 12 hours all together, listening to stories about her paranormal encounters. And of course, I shared some of mine. Back then, she told me that she believes the witchiness in our family tends to skip a generation. And due to that, my mom was not really gifted with such powers, but instead.

• 56:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ha ha, mom.

• 56:12Corinne Vien?

  I was a chosen one. As a person who has lived with my mom for now 20 years, I think that's not true at all. So let me tell you why. This story mainly revolves around my mom and my dad. My dad was not religious. He was very spiritual, though, and he loved animals and it always seemed like he could speak with them.

• 56:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh.

• 56:31Corinne Vien?

  He was mostly a dog person. Didn't really like cats, but for some reason, he was the only person I know who could make cats see him as a master, since we all know cats see you more as.

• 56:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, you were Papa Cat.

• 56:45Corinne Vien?

  Right. So especially the cat we had. It was very bossy, very nonchalant, constantly annoyed. It was an orange cat and it definitely always had an opinion. It wasn't a domestic cat and constantly roamed to the streets. None of us could really ever scold it, play with it, and it almost never came to cuddle. But for some reason, it really loved my dad. Always kind of listened and learned when my dad would scold it. Always came home when he would come home as well. And the weirdest it ever got.

• 57:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kind of like telepathy.

• 57:16Corinne Vien?

  Totally.

• 57:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, there's also like a guy who did it and has like an entire book about like dogs and telepathy. And there's all these studies about how like dogs know when their owners are gonna come home, even when it's not like on a routine. Like, say like you decide one day to come home for lunch or like from work for lunch, the dog knew.

• 57:36Corinne Vien?

  Which is crazy.

• 57:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 57:38Corinne Vien?

  Cause it's like, I'm sure they did it in the test where it's like the sound of your. Cars, tires from like a certain distance. When, when did it happen?

• 57:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, it would be like the moment they were leaving work. The dog.

• 57:50Corinne Vien?

  Would go wait.

• 57:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Would like.

• 57:51Corinne Vien?

  At the door.

• 57:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Something would happen with the dog to indicate that it knew that the owner was coming home. Like telepathy realized.

• 57:58Corinne Vien?

  Humans.

• 57:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 57:59Corinne Vien?

  I feel like we're just the ones left out. Like, we're the dumb ones. It was like.

• 58:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think we have potential.

• 58:05Corinne Vien?

  We've lost whatever we're supposed to tap into.

• 58:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Society has dumbed us down.

• 58:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 58:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And AI has prevented our critical thinking.

• 58:13Corinne Vien?

  And AI doesn't give us the correct answers when we Google stuff.

• 58:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 58:17Corinne Vien?

  Okay. Uh, the weirdest I ever got with that cat was when my dad died. It happened out of nowhere. We were all devastated.

• 58:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, geez.

• 58:26Corinne Vien?

  I was six years old at the time, so I don't have many memories from back then, but my mom has many stories. And she's told me all of them like a hundred times and they never get boring. She remembers very vividly the day before my father's death. She was coming back from work and there was no one else at home. She had let the cat out in the morning and knew it would not come back until my father was home. Surprisingly, the moment she walked through the door, she saw the cat right in the middle of the living room. At first she was confused. How did the cat even get in? Since there was nobody who could have let it in. But that confusion was soon replaced by the eerie energy around the cat. He was just sitting there staring at her, like it was trying to tell her something that she couldn't understand. Whew, I have chills.

• 59:08Corinne Vien?

  And for some reason, my mom started getting this really uncomfortable feeling. And just as she was about to approach the cat, it started literally screaming. It wasn't just regular meowing. It sounded like it was crying, cries of pain.

• 59:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 59:24Corinne Vien?

  Like someone was torturing this cat's soul, like it was grieving. My mom got really scared and so she kicked the cat out. She didn't sleep that night because she had this feeling that something really bad was about to happen. The next day, we found out that my dad had passed away of a heart attack. I remember that right before the funeral, I was sitting alone in the living room and the cat came up to me and just kind of stared at me for a bit. Before it came up, got in my lap and cuddled me like he wanted to give me closure.

• 59:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, so dad came back as the cat?

• 59:56Corinne Vien?

  Maybe. When we came back from the funeral, the cat was gone and we never saw the cat again. Ever since then, me and my mom started having trouble sleeping because of the exact same recurring dream. In the dream, we would see my dad. We'd cry and keep asking why he left us. He would always tell us that he's always with us, even though we can't see him. And at some point, I stopped having these dreams, but my mom did not. A year later, we decided we should get a dog. My mom was really skeptical at first since she was still missing our cat. But after the pressure from me and my brother, she finally agreed. We got an adorable, teeny tiny wiener dog, exactly one year after my father's passing.

• 1:00:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 1:00:36Corinne Vien?

  It was his favorite dog breed. The first night we spent with her at home, it was also the first night my mom dreamt of something else. She had a dream where she saw my dad walking into his grave and then a few minutes later, walking out of it as our new dog.

• 1:00:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:00:54Corinne Vien?

  Over the years, our dog started doing things that we felt had a connection to our dad. For example, my dad hated cigarettes, but my mom was a smoker and he would always try to get her to stop. So our dog would always chew up all the cigarette boxes.

• 1:01:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stop.

• 1:01:08Corinne Vien?

  And another example is that my dad absolutely loved chocolate candy that my gran would send us from Russia. He refused to eat any chocolates other than those. And as you know, chocolates are deadly for dogs. So every time we left the house, we would pick them up from the end of the table and put them somewhere else where the dog couldn't reach. Well, one time, my brother was the last one to leave and he forgot to do that. My mom was furious and she was worried sick. And when we got home later that day, the dog had devoured all of the candies. She had even unwrapped them and she was perfectly fine. And this was the happiest that we'd actually ever seen her in a long time.

• 1:01:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She's like, finally.

• 1:01:45Corinne Vien?

  She almost seemed confused as to why my mom was mad. And there were so many more examples that I could give, but I've already rambled. So over the last 13 years, this dog has very much convinced us that this dog is our dad, who came back to support us and show us that he's always there.

• 1:02:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that's so sweet.

• 1:02:03Corinne Vien?

  This story is actually not as crazy as some of the other ones I have, such as my great granddad coming back as a ghost who haunted my granny. But I'll share that one in a different email. Thank you for reading and stay spooky, Elena.

• 1:02:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, Elena, I feel like you have a lot of stories. You spent like 10 hours passing ghost stories with your grandma? Who's a witch?

• 1:02:22Corinne Vien?

  Right.

• 1:02:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Why do I want a shirt that says like my grandma's a witch?

• 1:02:25Corinne Vien?

  That would be cool.

• 1:02:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:26Corinne Vien?

  We gotta get our own line. As if we can't.

• 1:02:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or we could just do like grandma witch, baby witch, like you like different names for like what you are.

• 1:02:36Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. That reminds me, there's a really cool clothing brand that, so my friend Alice and she was just watching the movie, which I have not watched, but it's called Last Stop in Yuma Country.

• 1:02:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh yeah, I've heard of this.

• 1:02:49Corinne Vien?

  Um, and she sent me this still Bigfoot for President. And she then sent me the link because she was like, I think you need this shirt.

• 1:02:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Add to your wardrobe.

• 1:02:59Corinne Vien?

  Loc- localboogeyman.com and they have a ton of cool like spooky.

• 1:03:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Localboogeyman.com.

• 1:03:05Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's your new wardrobe is literally just.

• 1:03:08Corinne Vien?

  Just all the T-shirts from local boogeyman.

• 1:03:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And white pants.

• 1:03:14Corinne Vien?

  White pants and Bigfoot.

• 1:03:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Your wardrobe should give.

• 1:03:17Corinne Vien?

  I got my what?

• 1:03:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cult leader.

• 1:03:18Corinne Vien?

  I got my what pants on.

• 1:03:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cult leader meets like Bigfoot hunter.

• 1:03:22Corinne Vien?

  I like that. That's the vibe.

• 1:03:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's your vibe. What's your vibe?

• 1:03:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, share with us any of your encounters with the other side, whether it be with paranormal pets or just anything odd and unusual. If you've seen the ghost kangaroo, let us know. We want to know what's going on. Two girls, one ghost podcast at gmail.com. And if you want episodes one week early and ad free, join us on Patreon. We have so many other fun bonuses over there as well.

• 1:03:49Corinne Vien?

  And you can watch us on YouTube as well.

• 1:03:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:51Corinne Vien?

  Shout out to Jamie Ryan, who edits and produces our podcast and thank you to all of you.

• 1:03:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And happy birthday, Corinne.

• 1:03:57Corinne Vien?

  Thank you.

• 1:03:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love you.

• 1:03:58Corinne Vien?

  Thanks.

• 1:03:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This would not be the same without you. It really wouldn't. It would be.

• 1:04:02Corinne Vien?

  You and Sven.

• 1:04:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It wouldn't exist.

• 1:04:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We love you all.

• 1:04:06Corinne Vien?

  And we will.

• 1:04:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you on the other side.

• 1:04:12Corinne Vien?

  And also Sabrina got me a coffee, stopped and got me a coffee and not herself one. So that's a true friend and birthday gift.

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