Episode 537: Patti Stanger: Why Modern Dating Is Broken, Red Flags, and the Commitment Crisis

Modern dating feels harder than it should. With more access, more options, and more ways to connect than ever before, commitment feels rarer, and follow through drops the minute effort is required. We dive deeper into this in the Habits & Hustle podcast with Patti Stanger. We also chat about commitment behavior, power dynamics in modern relationships, and the difference between high standards and self-sabotage. Patti Stanger is the star and executive producer of Bravo's hit docu-series The Millionaire Matchmaker®. She is a third-generation matchmaker and founder of The Millionaire's Club, launched in 2000. She is the author of Become Your Own Matchmaker, Find Your Match, Seal the Deal, and Raise Your Desirability Factor. What's Discussed (06:30) How dating apps and technology shift power dynamics and commitment behavior (10:31) Why men date multiple women and choose based on self-respect signals (15:03) The biggest red flags, including never married by late 50s (31:35) Why men hesitate to approach women post-COVID and post-MeToo (45:35) How social media and filters distort attraction and expectations (50:23) Why younger generations struggle more with commitment and social skills (56:59) Why curated gatherings, hobbies, and clubs beat swiping apps (1:06:27) The biology of oxytocin and why sex changes attachment dynamics Thank you to our sponsors: Rho Nutrition: Try Rho Nutrition today and experience the difference of Liposomal Technology. Use code JEN20 for 20% OFF everything at https://rhonutrition.com/discount/jen20. Prolon: Get 30% off sitewide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-Day Program! Just visit https://prolonlife.com JENNIFERCOHEN and use code JENNIFERCOHEN to claim your discount and your bonus gift. Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com http://airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE40 for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen http://www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. Momentous: Shop this link and use code Jen for 20% off Manna Vitality: Visit mannavitality.com http://mannavitality.com and use code JENNIFER20 for 20% off your order Amp fit is the perfect balance of tech and training, designed for people who do it all and still want to feel strong doing it. Check it out at joinamp.com/jen http://joinamp.com/jen Find more from Jen: Website: https://jennifercohen.com Instagram: @therealjencohen http://instagram.com/therealjencohen Books: https://jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement Find more from Patti Stanger: Website: https://pattiknows.com https://millionairesclub123.com Instagram: @pattistanger https://instagram.com/pattistanger X: @pattistanger https://x.com/pattistanger

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  Hi guys, this is Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it.

• 0:06Jen Cohen?

  Today's guest is the unapologetic, straight-talking queen of matchmaking, Patty Stanger. You probably know her as a star and creator of the hit Bravo show, The Millionaire Matchmaker, where she spent over a decade helping some of the world's most successful and often most difficult singles find love. Patty built an empire by telling people the truth they didn't always want to hear about dating, relationships, and what actually what it takes to attract the right partner. She's matched hundreds of couples, written bestselling books, launched her own dating platform, and became the most recognizable voice in modern matchmaking. Today, we're talking about the psychology of attraction, the biggest mistakes high achievers make in relationships,

• 0:51Jen Cohen?

  and why finding love might be a lot more about who you are than who you meet. So let's get into it.

• 1:03Jen Cohen?

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• 2:28Jen Cohen?

  You guys, let me just say who I have because I haven't even said it yet. So I have Patty Stanger, who is the OG of matchmaking. My favorite, to me, no one will ever come close to you because, no, because number one, you're so, your personality, you have like such a captivating personality. You say what's on your mind. You're such a good TV personality.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Thank you. I appreciate it. Well, thank you for having me here.

• 2:54Jen Cohen?

  Oh, my God, I'm so happy.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  If you want to know this, her house is beautiful. The pool in the back is selling me right now.

• 2:59Jen Cohen?

  Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. So, yeah, so hold on a minute. So you, okay, you started telling me a story and I stopped you. What were you saying?

• 3:08Speaker 02

  Oh, Emily, Sex with Emily, is a really good friend of mine and yours. This is how we met.

• 3:13Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 3:13Speaker 02

  And I introduced her to, well, actually, she became friends with me because my date coach dated her. And he wasn't a date coach. I created him and he became this like phenomena. Although I did, he did do something really bad. There was an article written about me and Marie Claire and that became Hitch.

• 3:31Jen Cohen?

  That was what you were saying.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  Right. So they called him up and said, can you give us all information about Patty? And he kind of like thought they were going to pay him and get a credit and he didn't get a contract. He was dumb. And they sold me out. And I think it was originally a woman hitch and then Will Smith got it and created it, you know.

• 3:48Jen Cohen?

  So was it really based on your life?

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, it was the article in Marie Claire. So, yeah.

• 3:52Jen Cohen?

  Because now-

• 3:53Speaker 02

  I'm sure they're going to say that they got stuff from everywhere else, but there was nobody else doing what, like makeovers and Silicon Valley nerds, teaching him how to talk and walk. That was me. I'm sorry. There was nobody else that did that.

• 4:05Jen Cohen?

  100%. So people don't know. So she had this show called Millionaire Matchmaker. How many years ago was that show?

• 4:11Speaker 02

  Um, I don't even know. It's on Netflix now, though.

• 4:14Jen Cohen?

  It's on Netflix. I know.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  Three seasons on Netflix.

• 4:16Jen Cohen?

  Are you getting a whole resurgence in popularity?

• 4:18Speaker 02

  Yes, from the kids. Well, it's really cute because you'll go to the mall and a mom and a daughter, you know, will walk down the mall and the girl's like 14. She's like, oh, my God, my mom made me watch your show. And I'm like, and the mom will walk over and she goes, no sex before a monogamy, because they don't want the girl- To get like pregnant or STDs or you know, like then I want their heartbroken on a text. And so they'll start watching my rules and then I'll get DMs from them, little kids. Today I had the coolest DM today. So there are a lot of young influencers I watch, especially fashion ones in New York. And Victoria Heigl is one of my favorites. She's the personal assistant on the go. We've never met her boss though, I'm done. And she wrote me back and she said to me, Patty, I love your show. I love watching you.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Would you help me, you know, kind of break into Hollywood and give me advice and I'm going to mentor her. And I thought that was so cute.

• 5:08Jen Cohen?

  That is so cute. By the way, when are you going to be back on TV?

• 5:11Speaker 02

  We're working on something right now, hopefully with a network that hopefully, like I was on CW about two years ago. And the network was going into the sports arena. I did really well in the network. We, we hit the demos. Everything was great. And then, and Nick Hile was my co-host on it. No, I mean, sorry, Nick Vile was my co-host on it.

• 5:30Jen Cohen?

  I don't know who that is. I saw you had videos with him.

• 5:32Speaker 02

  You know, Nick Vile? He's like from The Bachelor. You gotta keep up.

• 5:35Jen Cohen?

  No, I know.

• 5:35Speaker 02

  He's from The Bachelor. The kids will know.

• 5:38Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 5:38Speaker 02

  And so, but he's going in, he's going on another show. And anyway, it was really great, but it was the wrong network. I love CW. Always have. Wrong network for us because it's more sports now. And they're going in a men's direction because there are guys from Dallas who own this, you know, they're like sports guys. And so I need to go back to my roots and we're trying to work with, you know, maybe NBC Universal over there.

• 6:00Jen Cohen?

  The truth of the matter is that the way the format was back then, it worked really well. I would think it would work now too.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  I'd be scared to, well, we can't yell and scream and I can't, you know, like, you know, Trisha Paytas, I said something like lose weight and change your clothes. And she's now this big star and her people start coming for me because I gave advice. But you have to understand the advice I gave. I gave advice that if you came in and go, I want a millionaire, male, female, gay, straight. I'm telling you what the millionaire's thinking. So if I make you straighten your hair, it's because millionaires were not attracted at that time to curly hair or wasn't in style. So I'm giving you the layup. I'm not saying you need to lose weight. For me, I'm saying that's what the millionaire was thinking.

• 6:41Jen Cohen?

  Well, you know, it's funny, right? Because you were just being honest.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:44Jen Cohen?

  And

• 6:45Speaker 02

  New York style.

• 6:46Jen Cohen?

  New York style, but I think it should be everywhere personally.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Straight, straight shooter.

• 6:50Jen Cohen?

  Be a straight shooter. And the truth is, what you actually said, or what is actually true, now it's become like faux pas.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  We're not allowed to say anything.

• 6:58Jen Cohen?

  Exactly.

• 6:59Speaker 02

  No, we have to be nicey nice and, you know, but then the kids aren't leaving home. They're living in the basement, so they're waiting for their parents to die so they can take over and inherit. And they don't have hustle.

• 7:08Jen Cohen?

  None.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  You know, and that's what your show is about. Like, there's no, there's no hustle. So what, so if you expect a free ride, okay, that's not attractive.

• 7:18Jen Cohen?

  No.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  That's not sexy. That doesn't have je ne sais quoi to it, so I can't help you.

• 7:23Jen Cohen?

  A hundred percent. How, how would you say, I guess this is my first question, how would you say the dating landscape has even changed, like changed from when you started?

• 7:31Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:31Jen Cohen?

  To how it is now in 2026?

• 7:33Speaker 02

  Well, the technology has changed it, but not the biology. Even though we, we believe in the wellness community, and I'm sure you're gonna believe what I'm gonna say, that men have become feminine energy females because the plastic and the water, especially the water they guzzle at the gym, disrupts their hormones. And they don't have that rugged, I'm gonna chop wood, the aliens are invading, let me get you out. They don't have, or let me take care of you. Let me pay for dinner.

• 8:05Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  Pay for dinner. Instead of going 50/50, or even you pay because you make more money. So they don't have that, that strong rugged veneer, and we believe that the plastic has disrupted the hormones and created less testosterone in the body. And this is why the fertility rate is down.

• 8:23Jen Cohen?

  Do you really think, though, that's why men have become more feminine?

• 8:27Speaker 02

  Well, there's two reasons. One, women became more successful. Even though we don't get equal pay for equal dollar, there are more women in college. But there's more women biologically than there are men.

• 8:37Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 8:37Speaker 02

  So there's not enough men for the women to go around, you know?

• 8:40Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  And that's one thing. Second thing is, once you started making money, they got lazy. And they're like, you made money, you pick up the bill, you, you make the reservation. But we as women were nurturers. We did everything. So can you imagine, we did everything for you. We took care of your children. We took care of you. We made the dinner. We cleaned the house. We made the reservations, and then now we're paying? No, no, no.

• 9:04Jen Cohen?

  But it's, I think it's changed where there's, there's more, women have become more masculine in general in their energy.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Right.

• 9:11Jen Cohen?

  And men have become more feminine. I don't necessarily think it's because of the microplastics.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no, no, it is. It is biologically, I have studied this, this is a wellness problem. I have studied this. It is not a hundred percent because we got successful and we had to take care of ourselves. We were in survival. We had no choice. If the man didn't step up in our late twenties and thirties to marry us and take care of us and say, I'm buying you a house, we're doing this with that. We had to survive. There was nobody paying our bills. We were not a generation, especially you and I and Emily, we are not a generation of our parents taking care of us. So we didn't have what these kids have.

• 9:46Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 9:46Speaker 02

  Where everybody gets a trophy and everybody gets to survive. We were like, kicked you, they kicked us out of the house. You get a roommate, you find an apartment in New York, you get a job, don't call me. That's what we were like. We were not the girls' generation of that first episode that was really funny on the first episode, girls, where the parents are professors and cutting it off. And she's like, what do you mean? They're like, we've been paying you for three years. We, my mother would never, my mother's like, I'm sorry, you want that? Go buy it yourself. So that's why. But the other thing with the men, and just getting back to your point, and then you can, I'll finish. The men, okay, have lost their drive. They're tired. You know, when Wall Street crashed, you never saw so

• 10:27Speaker 02

  many men crying. And then the woman going, screw you, I'll take your job for half the price. I'll make more money than you and I'll be the leader on Wall Street. And that's what happened in the, in the banking crisis. Like, nobody realized that. So women became like resilient, Wonder Woman. And men resented it. That's why they date a woman lesser value than you. They might, a young girl who's naive and doesn't know how the world works, but she's pretty. And that's why a Brad Pitt goes for a thirty year old girl. Because Angelina.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  challenged him, you know, and she didn't take crap. She left him. Most women who are taking crap right now, they have to look at themselves and go, where does that come from? Because why do you need him so badly that you would take the crap? So it's either financially, I need him to pay the bills. Or B, I'm codependent and that's all I know because my mom was like that. My grandmother was like that. It's ancestral.

• 11:22Jen Cohen?

  So would you, okay, so this is a good segue into the age gap situation, right?

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 11:27Jen Cohen?

  So don't you think there is a double standard between

• 11:30Speaker 02

  Oh, yes.

• 11:30Jen Cohen?

  men dating young and women dating young?

• 11:32Speaker 02

  Absolutely. But it doesn't work in the reverse. It really doesn't. I mean, I don't want to lie. There's very few, 10 years, 12 years, okay. You get to 20, 25 and a woman dating a guy, you know, I'm 50, I dated 25 year olds.

• 11:48Jen Cohen?

  I agree.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  I mean, like

• 11:50Jen Cohen?

  There's no life, there's nothing in common.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Right. It's just sex. What are you gonna talk about? You don't even have the same music taste. But when a man does it, he's mentoring, he's nurturing, he's grooming. And then the woman's like, and it's, and a Birkin with that? Okay. You know?

• 12:06Jen Cohen?

  Well, that's, I think that's become like the trend, right? Like if a man is a little bit successful, they will date much, much younger. But I feel like

• 12:14Speaker 02

  But not all men. See, my club, in Millionaire, in Millionaire's Club, my club, we have a lot of women over 50. They're coming in, they're spending the money and they're like, I need a man equal or better. And I need a man in my age group. You would be surprised how many quality men are showing up. They're not on the apps. These are not, these are gems that my recruiters and my staff find. And they're like, I've tried the apps, I've deited younger girls and I hate it. I want someone my own age. I want to grow old with my best friend.

• 12:43Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 12:44Speaker 02

  That I can have sex, best friends that I can have sex with.

• 12:46Jen Cohen?

  Because you know, I would, I would also think that it's been a reversal, right? It used to be in these, in like these dating situations, they would search out women and women don't pay. Now I feel this, like you said, there's so many more women who are single than men.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  You're seeing this on the apps.

• 13:01Jen Cohen?

  No, in general.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  But I'm, I'm saying like, it's, it's not the app's fault. It's, it's the way that there's a lot of desperate women. Not, not the group that's got, worked on themselves, healed themselves, said, okay, if you treat me badly from the first red flag, I'm not going out with you again. You know, like, that's it, we're done. I saw the red flag, we're done. Other women will take the red flag. Oh, he didn't mean it. Oh, it's just one time. He apologized. And those are the codependent people that will go for those men at all costs and chase. And that's not attraction. A woman is supposed to attract, okay, not chase.

• 13:42Jen Cohen?

  So, right, so that's why you don't like the fact that women shouldn't text a man?

• 13:45Speaker 02

  No. Mirror what he does. He texts you, you can wait a couple hours to text him back, but mirror what he does. If he ghosts you, ghost and block him. Now, here's a reason why. Because he's basically testing you, how much abuse can I give this woman? And you are not the top of the totem pole. You're not the one on the top of the roster. He's got other things going. Men are dating multiple women. Get it through your head. And they're picking the one that has self-respect and love for themselves. Those are the ones they're picking. They're not picking the girl down on her luck. Now, could they pick someone at a lesser value? Like, I don't make as much money. I make a hundred grand, you make a million a year.

• 14:28Speaker 02

  Absolutely. Because that makes him feel good and powerful.

• 14:31Jen Cohen?

  Powerful, yeah.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  Right. But you shouldn't demean yourself because you got successful. Like, I'm watching all these dating experts on Instagram. You know, the whole age of feminine is dead, and we're being blamed, like Vance did, you know? Vance blamed single women for being successful and not being married. Well, we'd all get married if the men would step up. I want to tell Vance, message understood, but message wrong. It's the men. Men are the leaders. Men are the ones that go out and hunt. We're supposed to sit here, look pretty, smell good, and smile, and wait for him to come to us to receive us. And then we decide what the best offer is for us. That's what it's supposed to be like.

• 15:13Jen Cohen?

  Well, that's why my initial point was, I just don't, I've noticed that there are not that many alpha men as there used to be.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Correct. Especially in California.

• 15:23Jen Cohen?

  Especially in California.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  Do not come here if you want an alpha man, and I warn you now. Stay away. Okay, not Orange County, not even San Diego. You're not gonna find it. And Silicon, their hair down to their ankles, living in their houses.

• 15:37Jen Cohen?

  Really? So where do people find alpha men?

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Alpha men usually are on the East Coast, especially the South and the North.

• 15:44Jen Cohen?

  Like where? Give us specifics.

• 15:45Speaker 02

  Midwest men too. I would give Midwest too. Midwest and East Coast, those are them. You gotta go around the perimeter. And Texas might have alpha, but they're subsections of Texas, like Houston and Dallas. You want to get more into the country.

• 15:59Jen Cohen?

  Okay, so that's, that's, okay, so ladies, listen up. Okay, now, how about this? Because we were, we were saying something earlier as well, because I don't want to lose the track.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 16:07Jen Cohen?

  But you were saying something about, I want to hear about red flags. So what are some, what are the top three red flags that people should look for?

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Okay. The first one is an addiction issue.

• 16:18Jen Cohen?

  Okay.

• 16:18Speaker 02

  And there's a lot of them going on there. A lot of drinking, a lot of pretending they don't drink or do drugs, and it's both sides of the aisle.

• 16:25Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 16:25Speaker 02

  But if we're looking at men, men tend to absorb alcohol more than women and can stand, like, girl goes past two drinks, she's gonna get loose, okay? So I would look for addiction issues. How much alcohol is he drinking throughout the night? Is he drinking when he calls you? Like, is he doing drugs? And you want to find those things out.

• 16:46Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  Second thing is, is you talk a lot about the ex. Does he, does he pump and dump? And they're like, oh, it was a terrible divorce, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And the third thing, if you're an older woman, I hate to say this because I've never been married and don't have kids, but I've been engaged and I've raised my ex's kids. When a man doesn't, hasn't been married at a certain age, at least once, and had at least one child, you're in trouble.

• 17:11Jen Cohen?

  Right. What age is that?

• 17:13Speaker 02

  I'll give it to 50. Okay, I'll give it to 50.

• 17:16Jen Cohen?

  That's high.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  I mean, I will say, I will be nice, because we're living in a delayed adolescent society, you know? But I will give, if a man's 50 and he hasn't had kids, and he hasn't, like, been married at least once, unless there's some tragic story, like she died or whatever, I don't want to hear it.

• 17:32Jen Cohen?

  50 is old.

• 17:33Speaker 02

  I know. I mean, I'd normally give 45, but now I'm giving 50.

• 17:37Jen Cohen?

  Wow, I thought you were gonna say forty.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  I'm being generous here.

• 17:41Jen Cohen?

  I thought you were gonna say forty.

• 17:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm gonna say generous. Well, forty is because they don't, a true millionaire doesn't make money till he's forty. So that's when he's on the hunt for the wife. He's making money in his thirties. I mean, we can make money earlier now because of, you know, AI and all the tech stuff. But, um.

• 17:55Jen Cohen?

  But why can't we get married before that?

• 17:57Speaker 02

  A real millionaire statistically has always been by forty. Yeah.

• 18:00Jen Cohen?

  But a lot of times, people are like making, like, you know, kind of like creating, like basically creating their career profession while having been married.

• 18:07Speaker 02

  Yes, correct.

• 18:08Jen Cohen?

  And then they usually would leave the wife and go to another one. That's a whole other story.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  He leaves for the secretary. The younger, hotter secretary, that the wife always knew. But she could never catch him in the act.

• 18:18Jen Cohen?

  Right, but the thing is, like, I've never heard as fifty is, it's good, it's okay or acceptable.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  Because they're getting married, because we now know the average median age of marriage is twenty-nine. So fertility's down, sperm count is down. And so what's happening is, and by the way, we found out that the eggs can go on forever and the sperm count has decreased. It was opposite what the doctors told us about the geriatric pregnancy. Yeah, that's all been new science. I study alchemy of attraction and signs of what's going on in the dating and fertility markets. And so this has been a sad story. They've told us that we had to get our, you know, get married, have a baby by thirty-five. We were screwed if we didn't. But in the meantime, the marriage count is down. So as far as age goes. So that means that if that's down, they're waiting later to get married and that they could get married by forty. Look at Hollywood.

• 19:09Jen Cohen?

  Well, that's.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  And a lot of us have, a lot of us we see in Hollywood, not married, have a child out of wed. Like, I know somebody going through something right now where she's just implanted embryos and he's, they're engaged, but he won't marry her unless the eggs, okay, are perfect and he wants a biological child.

• 19:30Jen Cohen?

  Really?

• 19:30Speaker 02

  Yes, I mean, that's narcissistic in my eyes, but whatever. Because I'm an adopted child, so I believe you can adopt. There's many different ways you can have children. Surrogacy, there's plenty of different. We have a lot of good ways to have kids now.

• 19:42Jen Cohen?

  Did you ever want children?

• 19:43Speaker 02

  Always.

• 19:44Jen Cohen?

  Always?

• 19:45Speaker 02

  Well, probably from thirty something on, yeah.

• 19:48Jen Cohen?

  So what was your path? Like, what happened with your life?

• 19:51Speaker 02

  I picked bad men.

• 19:53Jen Cohen?

  You did?

• 19:54Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. I picked what my mom picked because I was programmed by my mother. No fault to her. My grandmother and my grandfather had an amazing marriage. So I saw both sides of the street. But I picked bad men. I was very sexually driven.

• 20:07Jen Cohen?

  Really?

• 20:07Speaker 02

  I didn't care about money. I just wanted a hot guy.

• 20:10Jen Cohen?

  Until when?

• 20:11Speaker 02

  Until I realized I was paying the bills and I was exhausted.

• 20:14Jen Cohen?

  Is really?

• 20:15Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 20:15Jen Cohen?

  So because how?

• 20:16Speaker 02

  And I'm never doing that again. I am never doing that again.

• 20:19Jen Cohen?

  So what, how did you? Like, I'm curious. Like, what was your evolution? Like, how did you become a matchmaker?

• 20:24Speaker 02

  They all had inheritance, though. I have to caveat that. They all had inheritance, but you know, we can't. If you get married, you don't get the inheritance.

• 20:31Jen Cohen?

  Yes.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  You know that, right? So, but they all had inheritance coming. It was like money down the line.

• 20:35Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  But they didn't have money right now.

• 20:36Jen Cohen?

  And also, they didn't make it themselves. So that, to me, is also not attractive.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  One of them, yeah, they didn't make it themselves. One of them was like on the cusp, but never got there.

• 20:44Jen Cohen?

  Okay, so wait a minute. So, but how did you become a matchmaker? What were you doing before?

• 20:47Speaker 02

  Oh, my grandmother and my mother were matchmakers. And when I was sixteen, I loved this boy in school. He was like the hottest guy, but a badass. And I don't want to say his name, but he was Catholic. And so they would go to these Christchurch dances on Friday night. Me, the Jewish girl, got all my Jewish friends. I go, come on, because those were the hot guys. And we went to school that day and planned our escape from our parents. Because God forbid they find out. Nice Jewish girl going to a... And I got busted by the priest, who was actually hot. And he said to me, come in the back. And he's smoking a cigarette and he's drinking his wine. He says, you're not supposed to be here. And none of us had Jewish star necklaces or anything like that. But you knew. And he goes, what are you here for? And I said, well, I like this one boy. And he's like, you could do better.

• 21:32Speaker 02

  And I had done something really smart. I'd taken the boys on one side and the girls on the other side. And I brought them together and they started dancing and talking. He had never... Seen this at a dance because he could never get them together because they wouldn't listen to him. And he goes, I can't believe you did that. And my best friend ended up marrying the guy at the dance. They lost touch with each other and then years later they connected and they got married. It was kind of a cute story. And so, um, I told him I had a crush on this boy and he said, oh, you could do so much better. He's so bad. Like, he's derelict. He basically was, but a hot derelict, really like a Brad Pitt Legends of the Fall derelict, you know?

• 22:07Jen Cohen?

  Wow, okay.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  And he was always on my bus and looked like stoned out of his mind. And so he said, I'll tell you what, I'll let you come here every Friday if you could get the boys and girls to dance every week. And I did.

• 22:17Jen Cohen?

  And that's how you started?

• 22:18Speaker 02

  That's how I started. But my mother always said I was going to be a matchmaker. And I was like, never, never. Cause my mom, my, my mom was married one time I was born already. And he basically cheated on my mother, very Mrs. Maisel. And my mom left him and she went back to go live with my grandparents. And my grandmother was like beside, huh, what we say, you, nobody gets divorced. It was like a time when, and so my grandmother trained her to meet her next husband who ends up raising me and my dad. And the phones went off, like, you know, like, everybody was calling my grandmother, fix me up, fix me up, teach me what to do. Because everybody was getting divorced. It was like the seventies and everybody was getting divorced. And so then the rabbi called my grandmother and said, come on, I need your help. Like, what are we doing?

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Cause all the husbands were leaving their wives for younger secretaries.

• 23:05Jen Cohen?

  Wow. And so that's how you became, so then how did the show happen?

• 23:09Speaker 02

  The show happened because I worked for Great Expectations and I ran this big company. Uh, it was nationwide.

• 23:16Jen Cohen?

  Tell people what it is.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  It was the first original dating service, like a dating service. It was like Match.com before Match.com went online. And I worked.

• 23:24Jen Cohen?

  How did it work actually? I don't remember.

• 23:25Speaker 02

  You go into the office and you'd pay like $5,000 and then you'd swipe through pictures and videos. And it was based on mutual consent, kind of like Match. And so, and I would tell them, you know, what to do and what not to do. And they never listened to me. And when Match went up, it was like, we should be online. We should be the Soha's of dating before Soha's went up. And they didn't listen to me. So anyway, I worked there and then I was engaged. And my engagement broke off and I couldn't look at anything in Florida. I was living in Florida. I was like, oh my God, that's where we had dinner. That's where we went swimming. That's the gym we went to. Like, I was devastated. So my mom's like, you went to film school. Here's your chance to get to Hollywood and break into the business.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  So I go, okay, I'm need an adventure and off I flew to California with a dollar in my pocket. Knew one person and lived in the marina. And I, my cousin lived here and she was producing movies. She's like, good luck getting in the business. Now look at me. And so I was always like, yeah, watch me. I was that girl. If you watch me. But I had a friend who said to, I made a new friend and she was doing this millionaire thing with dating. And then she's like, oh, I could do it better. And she's like, well, don't, you're never going to be able to do it. Cause it's never going to work. So I would go to matchmakers that I knew in town. Cause I knew a couple of them and they would fix me up. And for every Gentile boy, I liked Gentiles and I'm Jewish. And I gave two Jewish boys to them. They'd give me a Gentile date and they sucked at it.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  Sucked at it. And all the daters would complain to me that how bad it was. I went on one date with one guy. He really liked me and he said, oh God, you're exactly what I want. He was a Mormon and he was cute, but he wasn't my type emotionally. So he said, what if I give you money? You could fix me up. Ding ding ding, had credit card debt, needed money to live on. I said, okay. And my mom's like, church 10 grand. She gave me the price. I'll never forget that. And I said, what? And so I took him like shopping over Beverly Hills, redid his wardrobe, decorated his house in Hermosa. And he had to truck that he wouldn't give up and it smelled like fish. And I kept saying, you need, I don't care if you get an SUV, but you need a nice one, like a Porsche. Took him to the Porsche dealership. He got it.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  Fixed up with his first girlfriend, turned out to be his wife. Got married, tell 10 friends and my business. But the first person I fixed up with was somebody of Muslim descent, unfortunately. And he met his wife on that first date and canceled the check. And from that moment, I changed the industry. Nobody takes a check. We all take wire transfers now. Because I changed the entire industry because credit cards, you get chargebacks. And if you give a check, somebody could cancel it. So wire transfer, then you fix them up. Really? I learned the hard way. So how much do you charge? I charge 150 and up.

• 26:09Jen Cohen?

  One fifty.

• 26:09Speaker 02

  Hundred and fifty K and up, yeah.

• 26:11Jen Cohen?

  And what do you get for a hundred and fifty?

• 26:12Speaker 02

  You get unlimited dating based on a period of time that we think is appropriate for you, plus a full-service staff. And you get my number, my business partner, Bonnie Winston, who's in New York. We have an office down on Wall Street. So you're getting a nationwide plus Canada, and we also do international as well.

• 26:29Jen Cohen?

  And how do you find the people?

• 26:31Speaker 02

  We have our resources. I can't give you my recipe, my trade secrets. But I will tell you, we have boots on the ground. We have the largest database in the business, and everybody knows. I mean, if I make a text message or via a DM,

• 26:45Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  Someone's responding.

• 26:55Jen Cohen?

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• 27:39Jen Cohen?

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• 28:14Jen Cohen?

  Are you guys using Instagram to find men and women?

• 28:17Speaker 02

  Um, men are not Instagram. We use that for women. Men are in sports networks.

• 28:21Jen Cohen?

  Like what? Give me an example.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  Golf. We're connected to a lot of country clubs, a lot of hotels with concierge, high rollers in Vegas. Uh, we deal with, with the one percenters.

• 28:31Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, so are you-

• 28:32Speaker 02

  So we're dealing with ski resorts. We're dealing with, with like St. Bart's, although that was crazy this weekend. Couldn't, a lot of people couldn't get out. We deal with high-end concierge services such as airports, you know, like-

• 28:43Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 28:44Speaker 02

  Private air, airlines.

• 28:45Jen Cohen?

  So when you say you deal with, what do you mean?

• 28:47Speaker 02

  We deal with the people that work with those people. And we deal with people who know people who know people and who know people who know people. Private clubs, there's 17 million private clubs going up every minute right now, all over the country. And we deal with, we know where the men are. Like, we know boots on the ground where the men are.

• 29:02Jen Cohen?

  So are you finding dates for yourself?

• 29:04Speaker 02

  I don't date my clientele. I have a rule. So I have a hard time with that. So you have to fix me up.

• 29:09Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I will.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  And LA's not that easy. I mean-

• 29:12Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 29:12Speaker 02

  We usually take the LA girl and make her go to Arizona.

• 29:16Jen Cohen?

  Really?

• 29:17Speaker 02

  Arizona is a hub for that. Lot of golfers, lot of retirees, lot of wealthy men. Yeah, or, or we'll go to Montecito, you know, Santa Barbara.

• 29:25Jen Cohen?

  When you say go to, like, are they moving there?

• 29:27Speaker 02

  In other words, like, I don't recommend, like, I don't recommend a woman over 50 dating in LA proper. We might get every so often, but I will redirect her somewhere else.

• 29:39Jen Cohen?

  When you say that, do you want them to move somewhere else?

• 29:41Speaker 02

  No, the men will come to them. Yeah.

• 29:43Jen Cohen?

  But, but no, you say like they should go to, what do you mean?

• 29:45Speaker 02

  In other words, like, in other words, like, I don't mind dating a guy from Scottsdale, because I love Sedona and Scottsdale.

• 29:50Jen Cohen?

  But how do they meet?

• 29:51Speaker 02

  They meet through us.

• 29:52Jen Cohen?

  Through a date?

• 29:53Speaker 02

  We, we concierge and arrange the date.

• 29:54Jen Cohen?

  Got it. Okay, so where-

• 29:55Speaker 02

  We do everything. You don't have to, it's basically put your lipstick on and go. That's all it is. And we do everything. Now, on the men's side of it, I mean, I just had six different men just join this today, actually, like, big ones, like, some, one celebrity you would know. And so I'm doing everything for him. He charged, I, I charged him $350. So I'm doing, like, everything. Like, his assistant is licking my ass because she cannot believe that I'm doing everything- Where she's been doing what I've been doing for years, like, you know, going to a Vegas party and trying to find five girls from him. And I'm like, stop that nonsense. I have to look under the hood of the car. I'm also psychic. I was born psychic. I read vibration. That's what you saw on the show. I'm like looking at people's energy. I have guides. I talk to them.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  So I'm looking at a lot of other stuff that we're not just doing surface stuff because it has to be a match on both sides. So I've got to look at what's his lifestyle like? How does he treat women? Do I have to change some of his behavior? At the same time, can that woman go at his pace? Like if he's the millionaire and she's going to drop everything for him, is there a balance? Or is he going to use her? Like, there's a lot of stuff I look at because I don't, I want the women protected too. And when it comes to the millionaire woman, I'm trying to get equal or better for her. So it's a little different.

• 31:09Jen Cohen?

  So for three fifty-

• 31:10Speaker 02

  And I do gay, by the way.

• 31:11Jen Cohen?

  You do?

• 31:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just don't do trans because I don't really know how to do that.

• 31:14Jen Cohen?

  So you do for, so if, so someone's paying you $350,000. What do they get for 350? What they don't get for 150?

• 31:21Speaker 02

  They would, okay, so 150, you would get one person below me, a matchmaker that I've trained. They've been certified by the Matchmakers Institute as well as me. We have a millionaire training certification program. We don't just go, hey, I'm a, I'm a matchmaker. There's plenty of those out there. I actually am training them from the ground up, like as though my grandmother's secret recipe. And then if it's me, you're paying more money to get me because you want me on call. You want to talk to me. You want to vent. I had a guy last week who fell in love with my first girl I fixed him up with. And I said, don't call it in. Don't make her exclusive just yet. Let's see what else. Because I wanted him to go on two, three more dates. Well, he went on a plane and he met someone. And he goes, I don't know how to do this. He's like awkward, a little bit on the spectrum,

• 32:05Speaker 02

  but handsome. So I said, I'm going to tell you what to say. And I became Cyrano and I went in his texts and I basically did all the texts.

• 32:13Jen Cohen?

  Talked it, yeah.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  And he got a date with the girl and he went on two dates and I arranged the third date for him. So I'm conscientiousing inside the service as well as outside the service because my goal is to get you into the best love relationship of your life. Like if God said to me, what is your one wish? I'd say everyone has their soulmate in humanity. He'd go, but you're- Out of business, I'd be like, that's okay. That's, that's why I'm here on the planet. And I'm okay with that. I, I work for God.

• 32:36Jen Cohen?

  And do you like doing it still?

• 32:38Speaker 02

  Yes and no. It's difficult. You were talking to me about your boobs for babes or babes.

• 32:42Jen Cohen?

  Oh, babes for boobs, yes.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  Babes for boobs. And it is an exhausting job. It is not easy. It is not for the faint-hearted. You deal with personalities. You can't even imagine screaming, yelling, violent, blah, blah, blah. I am like a therapist, a psychic and a matchmaker rolled into one. Like it's, it's, it's a lot of work. But I'm used to it and it's like breathing. Like if I was at the grocery store and I saw, oh, my friend's in the grocery store and that guy's in the grocery store. I put them together. It's just auto. You know, I'm not auto.

• 33:12Jen Cohen?

  I'm the same way though. I, I, I feel like my track record's been pretty good actually with it.

• 33:16Speaker 02

  That's amazing.

• 33:17Jen Cohen?

  Yeah. And I do it because I like it.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  And I want more matchmakers. I wrote a book because become your own matchmaker on Amazon. It was a bestseller. Because I wanted other people to do it for themselves as well as their friends and family.

• 33:27Jen Cohen?

  Well, I think the number one thing is not to be like, you have to be bold and.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  You have to be proactive.

• 33:31Jen Cohen?

  You've got to be proactive.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  But you know, we're like animals, you know, in the wild. When we want to mate, there's a smell and a signal they send out, right? We're the same way. You know, we have pheromones. The problem is, is the men walking across the bar to ask you out because of COVID, because of the Weinstein effect, because of Me Too, like they're afraid. They're chickens right now. They're very afraid. Like you're going to cancel them. You're going to say something online. You know, there's a group now called, they're dating the same guy and putting people's pictures up and destroying their image. But as sometimes it's worthy. Sometimes it's some jerk who's, you know, going out and hurting women left and right and they deserve it.

• 34:12Speaker 02

  But not everybody does. And it's male and female, by the way. So it's, it's a scary time to date. It's not easy.

• 34:19Jen Cohen?

  I think it is a scary time. Like I wouldn't want to be a guy right now.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 34:22Jen Cohen?

  I mean, it's better now than it was than me a year ago, but it's not great.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  But also, it's also unrealistic. We've got men looking at Instagram with these perfect looking filtered girls.

• 34:31Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 34:32Speaker 02

  And we're going, what? I can do that? And I'm a zero? Like, it's the only town where a zero can get a 10 and think he can still do better.

• 34:39Jen Cohen?

  Well, the problem is there's so many ways now for people to like access dating.

• 34:44Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 34:45Jen Cohen?

  Where I feel that people are not taking that dating seriously. It's all like situationships at any age. Like, people just, they can scroll to the next person.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  The thing, if you're, like, my old assistant ended up with her situationship, but it was two years of heartbreak. And he had left the country, come back, moved in with her. I mean, I don't, I don't recommend this because of what the roller coaster she went and there's damage to the brain and the body and the mind, you know, for what happens when you go and allow someone to abuse you. So your bar should be your bar. Like, in other words, stop allowing these people, male, female, gay, straight, to abuse you. Okay?

• 35:24Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  You're, if the guy doesn't love you, get over the fact he doesn't love you. Work on yourself rather than trying to get the guy to love you because it's not, even if he does come back, he's gonna do it again. He always is going to test you. It's his nature. It's the scorpion and the tortoise. You know that story, right?

• 35:41Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  You want to tell that story?

• 35:43Jen Cohen?

  You can, you're, you're the guest.

• 35:44Speaker 02

  So the scorpion and the tortoise, the scorpion, you know, says to the tortoise, can I have a ride across the river? And he's like, I don't know, you're a scorpion. He's like, no, no, I promise I won't sting you. And of course, he takes him across the river. And what does he do? He stings him! It's his nature to test you and abuse you. And if you allow it, he will keep on doing it.

• 36:05Jen Cohen?

  Do you think there's any type of variation in men, like some men who are more noble than that? Or do you think across the board?

• 36:12Speaker 02

  A lot of times, what I've found in my relationships, the minute I was done in my brain and in my body, not so much like I took the action to block and whatever, but the minute I felt that, oh my God, I'm over him. Like, you run into him and you're like, ew. I went out with him? What the hell was I thinking? You've, now you know you're over it. They fall in love with you. They call you, they won't. My ex, my ex is like, please, you're the only one. I want to marry you. And you've all seen him on TV. And I'm like, yeah, not happening.

• 36:41Jen Cohen?

  Why, that's a hundred percent accurate. I see that all the time. But why is that? Like energetically?

• 36:46Speaker 02

  The whole time he was with me and treat me great. Now he wants me and wants to marry you.

• 36:50Jen Cohen?

  What psychologically?

• 36:51Speaker 02

  Because psychologically.

• 36:52Jen Cohen?

  How do they even know?

• 36:53Speaker 02

  Men are programmed to hunt.

• 36:55Jen Cohen?

  Right, but how do they know if you're not having any contact?

• 36:58Speaker 02

  Okay, think of this. The hunter's hungry.

• 37:00Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 37:00Speaker 02

  Right? He's trying to kill Bambi in the woods, right? But Bambi's like, I'm not going to let you have me. I'm not going to let you have me. And he gets hungrier and hungrier and hungrier till he can't handle it anymore. Cause he's got no food. You are his source of energy. You are the muse. You are the one that give him. Women give the life force. We birth. It's all natural. So if you think about it, they need the light. They need the light from you. Don't give it in the light unless he deserves the light.

• 37:28Jen Cohen?

  What about, okay, I've, okay. So there's a million things I want to go through here. But first of all, I want to finish with the demo, like the geographics here.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 37:34Jen Cohen?

  I think people find this interesting. So you're saying LA terrible.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  Ugh, awful.

• 37:39Jen Cohen?

  Awful. So that's the number one city.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  And I'm sorry, it's the most singles in the United States, but you know, they're metrosexual. Don't come here.

• 37:46Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, number one, I, and I agree with you. Okay, that's for sure. So then you're saying Arizona, what?

• 37:51Speaker 02

  Arizona has a lot of retirees. So we're talking an older community that they can buy really.

• 37:57Jen Cohen?

  Older like how, what's the age bracket we're talking?

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Forty, eight and up. So they have a community of country clubs. They're building up these hotels. The global ambassador is a hotspot. If you want to go spend a weekend there, that's a fun place. Great food and everything.

• 38:11Jen Cohen?

  Okay, would you say the number one, Arizona?

• 38:12Speaker 02

  I would say Boca's number one.

• 38:15Jen Cohen?

  Boca's number one.

• 38:16Speaker 02

  Boca has more men than women. And they all came from New York. And now with the Mondami effect.

• 38:21Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  And the Copa law, which I don't know if you know, they're trying to seize your property. Um, you can Google that, you can Google that. Cause we'd get in a whole episode on that one.

• 38:29Jen Cohen?

  So you think Boca?

• 38:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, so they're all going to come down, they're all coming down to Florida. Okay?

• 38:33Jen Cohen?

  Always Florida.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  And that, and there are more men in Boca. But then there are women. So

• 38:38Jen Cohen?

  Why is that, though?

• 38:40Speaker 02

  They all want to live in the country club house. You get a house in behind the gates. You get to play golf and view in a community. It's very easy to make friends that way.

• 38:47Jen Cohen?

  Very easy.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  So you, if you were moving, let's say to Fort Lauderdale, a house on the street, you're not going to make friends. But with these communities behind the gates, they're retiring, they're bringing down their businesses. Everybody works from a computer. Nobody works in an office anymore unless they have to.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  But I would say Boca's number one.

• 39:07Jen Cohen?

  How about Miami?

• 39:08Speaker 02

  Miami is good, but it's very saturated. And also, it's young. It's young. So Miami, like, South Beach is gay and Brickell's young. You gotta chop it all up. You know, North Miami's got a lot of international communities, very South American. If you like the South American community, North Miami's really good for that.

• 39:27Jen Cohen?

  Really? Okay. I just got back from Miami. I saw.

• 39:29Speaker 02

  I love South Beach. I love the one hotel. My friend has an apartment next door and I always go to one. I love it. Love walking in Lincoln Road. They're going to rebuild it. I grew up part-time in Miami. I went to University of Miami, McCain. And so, uh, my grandmother lived there and Hollywood on the beach and I lived at Hollywood on the beach. So it's a great area. I love it. However, it's very saturated now. It's like a lot of traffic. So I would say maybe go north because the men don't really like, they don't like driving. They don't, they're not drivers.

• 39:59Jen Cohen?

  I didn't see a lot of like, I didn't see very many single men.

• 40:03Speaker 02

  That's why you go north. Delray and Boca. Delray and Boca. You go to Delray and you can go, West Palm Beach is really, you're, West Palm Beach is blowing up right now.

• 40:13Jen Cohen?

  But how about for single women? Are they just everywhere?

• 40:15Speaker 02

  And by the way, Jupiter, if you are, if you're conservative Republican and you want a strong, rich Republican man, you go to Jupiter. Cause that's where Mar-a-Lago is.

• 40:28Jen Cohen?

  Exactly.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay.

• 40:29Jen Cohen?

  Okay, so Miami, okay, we got the Florida stuff. So Arizona, Boca number one.

• 40:33Speaker 02

  Also skiing is a great way to meet people. Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I wouldn't say Aspen is kind of metrosexual. Um, I, that, Vail is family, so I would put Jackson Hole on there. What's the one in Sun Valley? Is that Sun Valley? That's Idaho, right?

• 40:49Jen Cohen?

  Idaho, yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  I'd go to Sun Valley and maybe Park City. Yeah, I'd pick those places. Because you're picking places that don't have a lot of competition. We're trying to get the competition away. Those 25 year olds that are going to take up your space and you're going to feel miserable because the men aren't looking at you.

• 41:04Jen Cohen?

  Okay, so what about New York?

• 41:06Speaker 02

  New York is really good. I'm just really worried right now. So I have a feeling there's going to be a spree of all the Richie Richies leaving.

• 41:15Jen Cohen?

  Because of him, yeah.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  I don't trust Mandami. No.

• 41:17Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, nobody does. Well, I don't either.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  And I also think it's going to be really difficult to do business there. And I think the billionaires are going to pull out. I think the grocery chains and the billionaires are going to pull out. And once they pull out, the city is going to fall. They're in trouble right now if Trump doesn't save them.

• 41:32Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, but that Madonna, I mean.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  I mean, he revoked 150 of Eric Adams' laws. And one of them was protecting Jews. I'm Jewish. Are you Jewish?

• 41:41Jen Cohen?

  Am I Jewish?

• 41:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, OK. I'm asking, I'm asking.

• 41:43Jen Cohen?

  Oh, my God, hilarious. No one ever asked.

• 41:45Speaker 02

  Hello, hello, we're from the tribe.

• 41:47Jen Cohen?

  Yes, I thought it was pretty obvious. Cohen?

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Right, he lied and of course, you know.

• 41:52Jen Cohen?

  I know.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  And he's not protecting us. And then also, 3,500 police officers retired and left the force because of him. So we're in a, it's a bad place right now.

• 42:03Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 42:04Speaker 02

  I mean, you might want to go like, I would say in winter time, you always go to ski, mountain-y places, that like Yellowstone. If you can get into Yellowstone Club, hats off, go. You know, even, here's another thing. Forget that you don't see someone at the bar. Mingle with the guy who's married. He always has one choking friend who's single. So you want to get the referral. See, people don't work and network enough. Like, they just, oh, there's no one here, let's leave. And I'm going, wait a second, who's at the bar? He's got a Rolex on, he's buying shots, like, let's talk to him.

• 42:38Jen Cohen?

  Right, maybe a conduit to someone else.

• 42:41Speaker 02

  Steak houses, where I tell you where there's meat, there's men. So if you go to a steakhouse and you go at 5 o'clock and you're nice to the bartender and you say, hey, do you know any regulars who are single in my age group? He's going to introduce you or she's going to introduce you. Be friendly if you know the hostess. They all know that what's going down. Seriously.

• 43:00Jen Cohen?

  You know what, that's, that's, that's, what's your number one piece of dating advice, though? To go to places like the steakhouse?

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have a rule, I have a rule, go out once a week by yourself. Those who travel in packs do not attract. It's a very hard rule and a lot of people can't do it. They cannot eat by themselves. They cannot go to a bar. They think they're going to be called a hooker if they sit at the peninsula at five o'clock. You know, that was the old day. You went to the peninsula in Beverly Hills at five o'clock, you were a hooker. We're like, where did this come from? Because the Russian hookers, the Russian hookers used to sit there and wait for the guy to come in and buy them a Chanel purse.

• 43:35Jen Cohen?

  Don't they still?

• 43:36Speaker 02

  I don't know. I haven't been to the peninsula. I don't know.

• 43:39Jen Cohen?

  I don't even know that anymore.

• 43:40Speaker 02

  I don't even go out anymore. I love to stay home and watch TV. I want a guy who likes to do nothing with me.

• 43:45Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  Does that make sense?

• 43:46Jen Cohen?

  That's the most perfect guy.

• 43:48Speaker 02

  I just want to get under the, eat great food and get under the covers and watch television.

• 43:51Jen Cohen?

  A hundred percent.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  And then take a walk on the beach when the weather's good.

• 43:54Jen Cohen?

  It sounds like, like, sounds like a perfect date to me, which is exactly the problem. That's why people aren't like, these great girls are not meeting people because they don't want to be doing the whole rigmarole.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  My favorite is when the guy is super athletic on the apps and he's like, I do this, I hang line. I did them like, oh my God, you're exhausting. Goodbye. Like, and they are like, I want an outdoors girl. Okay, that's right. Okay.

• 44:15Jen Cohen?

  I mean, they want an outdoors girl, but I think also they want someone who they can chill with.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  An outdoors girl's not going to be feminine, pretty and shaving her legs every week.

• 44:22Jen Cohen?

  You don't think so?

• 44:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:23Jen Cohen?

  I was gonna say, okay, let's say this. So my next question was, what do you think the number one thing that guys are looking for?

• 44:29Speaker 02

  Like something that's unattainable, like, you know, men have visions of like what they want, but then what they take is completely different. So what they want is the wish list, the hundred things to the floor. But when they get in front of a woman, she may not be in perfect weight, she may not have the perfect smile, she might be a little bit older. You know, they smell the pheromone, they run after it. So you'd be surprised what they take versus what they want.

• 45:01Jen Cohen?

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• 45:45Jen Cohen?

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• 46:37Jen Cohen?

  So you know what I find interesting? Strong, like people who are strong, like strong women, alpha women. I find that that's a very hard category.

• 46:46Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, I am like double. So I'm a Gemini and I'm two personalities. So right now I'm on my work mode. I'm like, let's do this. And then, then I meet a guy and all of a sudden that I'm attracted to, not just any guy. And then I'm like, hi, right. Oh my God, you did that? That's amazing. Like that's how I am. And then I noticed that recently. I went on a day Christmas Eve and I did that and I went, no wonder. He called me again. He asked me out. He kissed me at the end. And I was like not giving any signals. I just automatically went into feminine mode. Because when I was working with Pat Allen, who was my mentor and who was on the show, who wrote Getting to I Do, she would say to me, switch when you go in the house.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  And I had to, I had, and I was at a boyfriend at the time and I had, lived with him. And I had to train myself to go from, because I was producing my show and in front of the camera to go, hey babe, what do you want for dinner?

• 47:42Jen Cohen?

  Right, and like take off, but you have to, I think that you

• 47:44Speaker 02

  You have to train yourself.

• 47:45Jen Cohen?

  But I also believe you have to be with a man who can bring you into your feminine.

• 47:50Speaker 02

  Well, there's, there's, there's a reason why the masculine women who make money don't meet someone who makes more money than them, which will make them relax. Because if a guy said to you, honey, you don't have to work anymore. I'll take care of you. You can have anything you want. You'd be like, what? Who are you? Where'd you fall from? What alien, what, what? You know, I'm waiting for the aliens to come any minute. Like, what planet can we go dating on, right? Because we've done Earth and Earth sucks, right? So, yeah, so that's kind of like where we're at and we don't get men like that because men are like, I'm exhausted. I, you know, they're whining and their moms are moming them to death. You know, it's really awful.

• 48:27Jen Cohen?

  See, what I think is social media and the dating apps have really kind of ruined the landscape.

• 48:34Speaker 02

  Well, because they don't have to hunt.

• 48:36Jen Cohen?

  There's no hunting and I think

• 48:38Speaker 02

  Hunting does not count on the app, by the way. I don't want to say, hunting is physically in person where you walk up to the girl at the grocery store and say, hey, which cereal should I get? That's what it's supposed to be like.

• 48:49Jen Cohen?

  But it's not, for most, for the majority.

• 48:52Speaker 02

  Do you live on the West Side?

• 48:53Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  So we used to go to Whole Foods on Venice. Like Tuesday, Wednesday night was, and one of the nights was singles and the other one was gay. And you'd go and sit outside and look really cute from the gym. You braid your hair and you have your little beanie on top in the winter and you'd sit outside. Do you remember that?

• 49:08Jen Cohen?

  I miss those years.

• 49:09Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I was like, I cannot believe I did not take advantage of that time.

• 49:13Jen Cohen?

  People don't like, that's what I'm saying now with the social media thing, it's, people are also getting really, their, their, their brains are thinking what's real and what's not real are completely different. Like they're seeing all these, like you said, everyone's photoshopped, face tuned, all these things and they think that's what we're, that's what they look like.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  Girl in person, they're like, I get these complaints from the men when they join the service, like how they went online, their secretary found these girls. And they would say like, how do you know she really looks like that? And we're like, would you like to FaceTime with her?

• 49:41Jen Cohen?

  Yeah. And they don't normally look like that.

• 49:43Speaker 02

  Time and they go, can she filter it? And I said, no, she's FaceTiming. There's no filter on FaceTime. You know, Zoom, she can do the beauty thing, but not FaceTime. So then they thank me and they're go, gosh, she's so much prettier than her pictures. Because he's seeing a human being.

• 49:59Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, and he's seeing a human.

• 50:00Speaker 02

  When you show a picture or even a video, you're not connecting with that person. So it's very attractive when you connect with a man and you may not have makeup on. I can't tell you how many times my ex used to say, I love you when you don't have your makeup on. I'm like, what the hell is that about?

• 50:16Jen Cohen?

  Well, I, I, I think that's a known thing though. Men hate makeup.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  They hate makeup. They just want to see like maybe a little lip gloss and go.

• 50:22Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 50:22Speaker 02

  And so a little tan, like you, you know, you've, you've had sun kisses from the sky. Forget a spray tan.

• 50:28Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  And they think like, you know, you should just be the girl that throws on a pair of shorts and gets in the car. And I sit there and I go, oh my God, they're going back to high school when this was a high school.

• 50:39Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  So they're trying to get that cheerleader in high school that looks all organic.

• 50:43Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  And that's where their brain, the natural girl next door, that's where their brain is going. But I will tell you this, that men are acting like it's a given, like their entitlement without having to hunt. Like I deserve the best and I shouldn't have to hunt.

• 50:57Jen Cohen?

  Well, what I was gonna say also, there's a lot of like rhetoric about like, I need, I want my peace, peace talk. Like, you know, I just want to have peace. That's become like the new tagline.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  So here's the new thing. So women are making money. They have their vibrator, right?

• 51:12Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:13Speaker 02

  They got their girl posse and their life is full. And they're like, if you can't meet me at my level of peace or better, peace or better, I'm not getting out of bed. Now that never happened. So women are on strike. We've been on strike right now. And this is 18 and up. This is not like 45 year old women who are like, screw you. These are the kids talking, just like 867% of alcohol sales are down. Did you know that? Kids are not drinking and not doing drugs.

• 51:42Jen Cohen?

  That's what I'm saying. Social clubs are becoming very popular, fitness and wellness clubs.

• 51:45Speaker 02

  I'm making money on influencing or AI or whatever, you know, because they're all techies. And I get to go to home and go to sleep when I want, eat the foods I want and walk my dog and life is great. And they're showing it on, they're showing, I can't tell you how many hot influencers don't have boyfriends.

• 52:00Jen Cohen?

  I, I would say the majority of them.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  I mean, I'm watching them all and they're like, nah, I don't want to go out with him. He said this or he did that. And I could tell right away and they're getting smarter and I have. To give social media one credit, I learned about narcissism from Dr. Ramani and all these experts. And realized my ex was a narcissist, my last boyfriend. And it was my father, he was my dad. My dad was an alcoholic narcissist, so was my ex-boyfriend. And I learned so fast that I would never learn from years of therapy. So I give it to social media. And now I would never pick a guy like this again. And I can see the red flags before the wall comes in. Where I could never have done that in therapy.

• 52:40Jen Cohen?

  But you don't think that the word narcissism has been overplayed and overused?

• 52:44Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 52:44Jen Cohen?

  I feel like everyone's a narcissist these days.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  I feel like there's more narcissists than you think.

• 52:49Jen Cohen?

  You do?

• 52:49Speaker 02

  I do, oh yes. It's a narcissistic tragedy happened when they were a child, where they created this world that they're the star of their own movie and nobody else matters. And they lost their empathy gene. So in the UK, they're starting in the schools, which is shocking. Considering it's the land of rape right now, you know, London and all that. They're making the boys take empathy classes and how to treat women. They're getting etiquette and empathy classes right now as we speak. So they can treat women better in these like boarding school situations.

• 53:17Jen Cohen?

  Really? Well, do you know also that people are using AI now as women, like dating people, creating their own?

• 53:24Speaker 02

  Avatar.

• 53:25Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Just like they used to do the blow up doll and the robots.

• 53:27Jen Cohen?

  A hundred percent.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  And the robots.

• 53:29Jen Cohen?

  Versus like, you know, these like, it's like a film becoming reality, like real life.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:33Jen Cohen?

  There's so many reasons why dating is down. Do you think it's worse for the younger generation, like the eighteen to thirty or for forty to seventy?

• 53:42Speaker 02

  No, it's worse for the agenda. Cause at least the forty to seventy has had a taste of what physical companionship is. The eighteen year olds, some of these kids don't even, never had a boyfriend or a girlfriend. And they're not bad looking and they might be tech spectrum-y, but when it comes to like actually asking a girl out to the prom or something like, they've never done that.

• 54:01Jen Cohen?

  Also, I find, I don't know if it's mostly just in LA or California in general. Everyone is fluid and bisexual.

• 54:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:08Jen Cohen?

  So like, they're not even the gender that they are.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  My friend's daughter is like that.

• 54:12Jen Cohen?

  A lot of my friends' kids are.

• 54:13Speaker 02

  And if you say anything against it, I'm like, can't you pick one side? If you close your eyes, which one is more attractive? They're both, they're both. And then my favorite is the pansexual, where they, they're in the mind, they love the mind. So the, what's, there was another one.

• 54:26Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I know, I know exactly what you're talking about.

• 54:28Speaker 02

  There's pan and what's the other one, the intel, intellectual one?

• 54:31Jen Cohen?

  Oh, neurotrend, no, um.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  I can't think of it. It's like a sexual where you're only turned on by the mind? The pan is the soul.

• 54:38Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  The soul and the other one's the mind.

• 54:41Jen Cohen?

  I don't know which one you're talking about. I'm sure if you said that, I'd be like, oh yeah, that one.

• 54:44Speaker 02

  It'll come to me later. I'm sure someone's gonna, they're gonna DM you.

• 54:47Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, yeah, they will. And I'll let you know.

• 54:48Speaker 02

  There it is. And I forget what it's called.

• 54:50Jen Cohen?

  But I, I feel like that's another reason why relationships are not flourishing at that age. But so then you think that, that generation is worse than our generation?

• 54:59Speaker 02

  Yes, way worse, way worse. They will get to the point where they will never connect. There was a movie with Sylvester Stallone and Sandra Bullock and she, they didn't have sex. Remember he comes back to earth after a certain period of time and she's in the present, but it's really the future. And he says to her, let's have sex. And she starts to work with some computer thing. And he goes, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm having sex. Like,

• 55:22Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 55:23Speaker 02

  Like, in other words, something outside of her was stimulating her and he didn't get to touch her.

• 55:27Jen Cohen?

  Really?

• 55:27Speaker 02

  That's what's gonna happen in the future.

• 55:29Jen Cohen?

  Listen, I think it's, we're not that far away.

• 55:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, we, maybe five, 10 years, yeah.

• 55:33Jen Cohen?

  You know, I was just telling someone before you got here, you know, I just got back from Miami, like I said, and I played padel or paddle.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  I heard it's amazing. Better than pickleball.

• 55:42Jen Cohen?

  Way better than pickleball. That's why I'm bringing it up to you. So my friends were-

• 55:45Speaker 02

  And there's clubs coming up with it.

• 55:46Jen Cohen?

  So yeah, so my friends were super into it. Like you have to come to padel. So I went to like two or three, no, three different clubs there to play.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 55:53Jen Cohen?

  I found it to be super vibey. I found there to be a ton of single people, women and men, who are professional and successful and attractive and athletic. I was like, wow, like this is like the panacea.

• 56:08Speaker 02

  Did you see the country club is being built in Fort Lauderdale? That's all pickleball and padel. It's like the-

• 56:13Jen Cohen?

  And padel both?

• 56:15Speaker 02

  It's both. And it's, it's a country club. You basically join like you're joining Soho.

• 56:19Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 56:20Speaker 02

  And then there's clubs everywhere, all different groups, age ranges and everything. And then they go to have lunch at the club.

• 56:26Jen Cohen?

  I'm telling you.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  There's parties at night and it's in Fort Lauderdale by Sawgrass. And I'm sitting here going, we need that in LA because we don't have anything here.

• 56:33Jen Cohen?

  Can I tell you something? I was like, that's exactly what I was saying. I'm like, this is crazy because there it's so vibey. They built a whole culture around it. People go there, they hang out, they watch other people play, then they play their game. Then there's like a whatever. Thing going and the crowd is way I think a much more affluent crowd.

• 56:53Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, it's like it's way more affluent.

• 56:55Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, and like athletic. So if you're someone who's into athletics.

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:59Jen Cohen?

  So like to me, these are great places to meet people as well.

• 57:02Speaker 02

  Well, that's the thing like now like mahjong took off.

• 57:05Jen Cohen?

  Mahjong, exactly.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  And it's not just for women only. Like I've seen groups where men and women are playing mahjong. They're going down to Chinatown. They're learning how to play with the pros. And then they're starting their own mahjong groups.

• 57:15Jen Cohen?

  Really?

• 57:16Speaker 02

  Like we like my.

• 57:16Jen Cohen?

  Mahjong?

• 57:17Speaker 02

  My mother was a backgammon champion and my dad was a car champion. And my dad, my mom won awards. She built Wilt Chamberlain and everything. She won awards in New York City, El Morocco. And she used to have these backgammon. My, my father imported caviar beluga for five years from Russia. And so they would have caviar backgammon parties. Caviar took off, mahjong took off. Like, what's next?

• 57:40Jen Cohen?

  Are you kidding me?

• 57:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:41Jen Cohen?

  That's incredible. It's crazy.

• 57:43Speaker 02

  These amazing parties at my parents' house.

• 57:45Jen Cohen?

  So I used to have this thing called game night, which I would like.

• 57:48Speaker 02

  Oh, I love that.

• 57:49Jen Cohen?

  Can I tell you something? We would do game night probably once a month. And what we would do is we would invite a whole different array of people, like usually thirty people, forty people.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  Can we start that again?

• 57:58Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I will tell you something. It was such a hit. So it became so popular, like, and then everyone would bring their friends and like everyone would like, you know, like mingle and talk. Like, I think having like experiences with people is the best way.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  Okay, I can't tell you how many people, like in the old days of game night, like when I was in, I lived in Florida.

• 58:19Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 58:20Speaker 02

  Cause we took it for granted. We lived in buildings on the beach and everyone knew each other. And on like Thursday night, we'd go to the cigar bar and play pool and like we had it so good and we took fan, we took advantage of it. Cause we, we should have like picked one and got off the market.

• 58:33Jen Cohen?

  Yes.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  But I think that's the best way to meet people because even if you don't meet someone, you meet someone's friend.

• 58:40Jen Cohen?

  Can I tell you?

• 58:40Speaker 02

  Or they introduce you to someone. Can you how many times I've said to someone, I'll fix you up if you fix me up. And then we did that.

• 58:46Jen Cohen?

  One hundred percent. Also, like, I'm a big conduit person, right? I'm very much, I think, like you in that way. Like even at these game nights, like you would, you would be surprised how many business. Things happen like business relationships, friendships, a couple.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  You need to take 10% of all that.

• 59:02Jen Cohen?

  I was people would people would say to me all the time, they're like, you have you should take like, you should definitely take a commission on this because the amount of things that have happened just in the vicinity of me, business, relationship, I mean, professional, personal. I think it's that is the way to do it. Like surround yourself with people.

• 59:19Speaker 02

  That's what we need to do. So like if you're in a community, you need to be the ringleader, like you're the social butterfly, you know, everyone. Everyone chips in and pays for whatever they have to pay for the food, the drinks, whatever.

• 59:30Jen Cohen?

  Right, right, right.

• 59:31Speaker 02

  And then you start doing this, it will create a community and the problem is most people are lazy right now. They don't want to lift.

• 59:37Jen Cohen?

  People don't want, by the way, I'm not even that much of a social butterfly, however.

• 59:40Speaker 02

  But what a fun thing to do once. I would look forward to that.

• 59:43Jen Cohen?

  So that's the thing, like, I'm not even naturally a social butterfly, but I do like to do certain things. And to me, it's like, I'd rather get everyone together.

• 59:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 59:51Jen Cohen?

  Than going individually with one person, one person, one person. It's exhausting. So I'm like, I'm gonna invite 20 people. And that's the best way to do it.

• 59:59Speaker 02

  My mom created this thing called Ring the Bell and I put it on the show and it was the greatest thing in the world. So it's it's called Ring the Bell. It's a party. That my mom used to have. So she'd have tables and men would sit around the table and women would sit next to them and she'd have icebreakers in in the front, like little cards when you'd read.

• 1:00:15Jen Cohen?

  So fun.

• 1:00:16Speaker 02

  Somebody would read the question and then would break the ice. And then whoever ran the event would ring the bell. And after every course, the man would get up, the woman would stay and go around the table.

• 1:00:26Jen Cohen?

  It's like speed dating.

• 1:00:26Speaker 02

  And my mother had had marriages and marriages from this thing. So I brought it on the show once. It was really cute. And.

• 1:00:33Jen Cohen?

  Isn't that speed dating?

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  It was in a sense, but not really.

• 1:00:37Jen Cohen?

  Okay.

• 1:00:37Speaker 02

  Speed dating is when you're across from someone, or we call power dating, even though the rabbi invented speed dating. Across from someone and then you jump, you jump, you jump. But this is different because you're at a dinner. So you're at a dinner and you're talking to everyone. So a woman has a man to both sides. And then a man has another woman to the side. If the man gets up and moves one over, everybody meets this, everybody meets everyone.

• 1:00:58Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  And it's like after each course, like she'd have small courses and then the big finish with the dessert.

• 1:01:04Jen Cohen?

  That's so great. I love that.

• 1:01:05Speaker 02

  It was a really cute idea. So dinner parties are great, too. The problem is people go there, I'm gonna meet my husband. No, go there to meet people.

• 1:01:13Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  How about you just make friends and see where it lays, you know?

• 1:01:17Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Speaker 02

  You got out of the house, you look, you put some lipstick on, you put a pair of cute jeans on, and just relax, like, you know, rather than hunting and standing at a bar waiting to get picked.

• 1:01:27Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I agree. And also, I think that like air of desperation, if you're going there just to meet, just to meet, as opposed to having much more of, I'm going there, like a reframe of your brain. You're going there to meet people versus I need, laser focus, I need to meet a man, I need to meet a woman.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  I mean, my mom was good at the matchmaking part because she did that for a living. But, but the other thing is like, she also put people in the group that had the same common interests. Like if they were golfers, you know, male and female golfers, she put them all together. And then they had something to talk about. So another thing is you can make groups based on like skiing or whatever your hobbies are. I love to cook, so mine would be like cooking, you know?

• 1:02:05Jen Cohen?

  What do you cook?

• 1:02:06Speaker 02

  I cook everything you name it, I can cook it. That's just my thing. I've always been like that since a child, yeah. I was, my family always had the refrigerators filled, my aunt, my grandmother. And if they didn't have food to cook, you were in trouble because that was how we showed love.

• 1:02:19Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I mean, that's also very Jewish, though, right?

• 1:02:21Speaker 02

  But I mean, like, I cook really clean now, so I'm like, I was Irwan before Iran. You know what I mean? Like, that's how I cooked, yeah. All clean ingredients, reading labels. She just gave me something to look at and I looked, I immediately went to the label.

• 1:02:34Jen Cohen?

  I know, so you, you, you read every label?

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  Every label, I know what seed oils are in, I know everything's going down, what flower they use. I'm neurotic, yeah.

• 1:02:43Jen Cohen?

  I love that.

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:50Jen Cohen?

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• 1:03:31Jen Cohen?

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• 1:04:15Jen Cohen?

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• 1:04:52Jen Cohen?

  What's the number one question people ask you?

• 1:04:54Speaker 02

  Where are all the men? More than where are the women?

• 1:04:57Jen Cohen?

  Do men ever ask you where all the women are?

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  No, they just say, "Hip, fix me up." They just know that I have the women, so they go, "Fix me up."

• 1:05:04Jen Cohen?

  But they want to know, but it's always where are all the men?

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  Where are the men? They're so sad, and look, everybody goes through depression. We watched all those Christmas movies where everybody found love this last period, and I just want to cry every single time and go, "Where's my guy?" And now we have a song, our national anthem. Where the hell is my husband by Ray?

• 1:05:23Jen Cohen?

  That's right.

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  The minute it dropped, I told everyone, this is gonna be the biggest hit of next year. People were like, you're crazy. Yeah. I'm like, okay, I'm an idiot. But it's that is the national anthem. Where is my husband? It used to be the single girls, screw, screw you Beyonce.

• 1:05:38Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, right, right, right. Exactly.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  Ray is move new girl in town.

• 1:05:41Jen Cohen?

  So that's the, that's the number one question they ask you. Did they ever ask you, how are you single if you're a matchmaker?

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  Always, always. But that's my journey and my story. I go on dates. I haven't found the one. I feel like LA is really hard. It would be easier for me in Florida, but I don't live there. So that's why.

• 1:05:59Jen Cohen?

  Why don't you move? Why are you here still?

• 1:06:00Speaker 02

  I live here because I produce TV. I make, I made five movies for Hallmark. I'm producing a scripted series with the people that made The Kissing Booth and The Queen's Gambit and The Walter Boys. So I'm working on a scripted show with them.

• 1:06:13Jen Cohen?

  Can you move, like, live here half the time?

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  I can, I can.

• 1:06:17Jen Cohen?

  In Boca?

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  I can, but you know what? I really like the weather here. I don't know what it is. Like the humidity, did it get you a little bit?

• 1:06:22Jen Cohen?

  I, I was lucky. It was freezing cold.

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  Oh, you were good. You were in the rain. You had the rain and the freezing cold.

• 1:06:27Jen Cohen?

  Oh, it would, no, yeah, no rain. Thank God. I hate, that's the problem with Florida.

• 1:06:31Speaker 02

  Usually it had rain this last year. You know that.

• 1:06:33Jen Cohen?

  I had the worst humidity.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  I was the last time I was there. I went there. I usually go every other month. My best friend lives there.

• 1:06:38Jen Cohen?

  Oh, really?

• 1:06:39Speaker 02

  In Fort Lauderdale. Yeah. And the last time I was there, I said, thank you for the rain. Every day I was there, it rained.

• 1:06:43Jen Cohen?

  I hate rain though.

• 1:06:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, rain is brings the mosquitoes. So it's terrible in Florida.

• 1:06:47Jen Cohen?

  Oh, I just, yeah, that's, yeah. Listen, I really love the life in, in Miami.

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  I want to bring it, if I have to import somebody in.

• 1:06:54Jen Cohen?

  I know.

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  Like, hey, guys, if you're watching the show, we're both single. I'm just putting it out there. Um, because I would totally import a guy in. Especially a guy who's successful and already has money. He can live anywhere.

• 1:07:05Jen Cohen?

  Well, I mean, 100%.

• 1:07:07Speaker 02

  And who wouldn't want to live in LA? It's beautiful.

• 1:07:09Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you who wouldn't. Anybody who has any, any money because of the taxes here.

• 1:07:14Speaker 02

  It's so expensive here.

• 1:07:15Jen Cohen?

  Not to mention all the homeless. I can give you a million reasons why.

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  Okay, all right, all right, okay.

• 1:07:19Jen Cohen?

  Many people have, most of the people I know have like left LA.

• 1:07:22Speaker 02

  And then we lost the Palisades also.

• 1:07:23Jen Cohen?

  And the Palisades. There's a lot of reasons. I think that the only reason to be in LA now is the weather. I mean, I think that's, that's really where it comes down to.

• 1:07:30Speaker 02

  But then we don't have even summer. We don't, we get, you know, June gloom and May gray. And we don't get like summer till everybody, everybody's leaving to go back to school and then we get our summer.

• 1:07:39Jen Cohen?

  Isn't that something?

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  It's so stupid.

• 1:07:40Jen Cohen?

  It's crazy. I agree. What's the difference between being picky and having very high standards?

• 1:07:46Speaker 02

  Picky is neurosis. So it's constantly where, you know, her eyelashes flutter too much, or you know, one thigh's thinner than the other. Like, that's creepy. But, um, high standards, high value woman, that's okay.

• 1:08:01Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, but-

• 1:08:01Speaker 02

  I'd rather you have high standards.

• 1:08:03Jen Cohen?

  No, but what's the difference? And someone who's like picking silly things?

• 1:08:06Speaker 02

  But like, picky is kind of, picky is, it's not so much silly things, it's just neurosis over like, you know, like, I'm too picky. Well, should I be low standards? So high standards is like, you look at yourself, do you have those things? Are you suc- if you want someone successful, are you successful? If you want someone in shape, are you in shape? That's like, high standards.

• 1:08:26Jen Cohen?

  So what I find so hilarious is when these, I find, this is what I think happens a lot, when people who aren't, like, they're a six, and they expect to get an eleven.

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  Especially if it's a man that has money.

• 1:08:38Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  Because-

• 1:08:39Jen Cohen?

  But they can get the, they get the eleven.

• 1:08:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, he believes the entrance fee, okay, of the money, Jeff Bezos 101, you know, and then she comes along and makes him in shape.

• 1:08:50Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I mean-

• 1:08:51Speaker 02

  And they have a good relationship like that.

• 1:08:53Jen Cohen?

  I know, but to me, that's even, I see it way worse. At least she's age appropriate.

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, isn't that nice?

• 1:08:58Jen Cohen?

  At least she's age appropriate.

• 1:08:59Speaker 02

  Isn't that really nice?

• 1:09:00Jen Cohen?

  Like, to me, it's like-

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  Laura's great, she's great, Laura's great.

• 1:09:02Jen Cohen?

  I would, and also, she's no dummy.

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:04Jen Cohen?

  You know what I mean? Like, so he, to me, I can, I can deal with that. What I don't like is when it's like, I'm, you're like, five foot one, and you're bald, but you're very rich, and you're-

• 1:09:15Speaker 02

  Well, there's tons of nerds on the Forbes 400.

• 1:09:18Jen Cohen?

  And they're dating a 25-year-old gold digger, and they think that's okay, but I, I don't see-

• 1:09:22Speaker 02

  But they didn't get that in high school.

• 1:09:25Jen Cohen?

  But I say if you marry for money, you earn every penny, because the girl still has to have sex with that guy.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  Some girls don't care.

• 1:09:32Jen Cohen?

  I know.

• 1:09:32Speaker 02

  They're going Birkin, Birkin, Birkin, as he's going up and down and pumping a junk, his junk.

• 1:09:37Jen Cohen?

  But what I don't get, but is how, what does that say about the girl?

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  The girl is materialistic, but you get what you pay for.

• 1:09:43Jen Cohen?

  You get what you pay, and you earn every penny.

• 1:09:45Speaker 02

  Did you ever watch the movie Gentleman, um, Gentleman, what's that movie, Blondes? Gentleman Blondes, Gentleman, uh, the Marilyn Monroe movie. Gentleman more Blondes.

• 1:09:53Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay. So she says to, she's dating this guy, and the guy's father has the money, he's the billionaire, and she says to him, "Well, don't you know, a pretty girl is just like a man with money?" We have an exchange.

• 1:10:07Jen Cohen?

  Transaction, yeah.

• 1:10:08Speaker 02

  Transaction.

• 1:10:09Jen Cohen?

  I see it all the time.

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  And then she said, what's wrong with that? You're not gonna date, you're not gonna marry an ugly girl. Why not me? In the end, she says that, and I just saw that clip. I put it on my Instagram.

• 1:10:18Jen Cohen?

  Listen, if it works for you, all the power to you. But I find that very, I find that interesting. Okay.

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you have to understand, in that time, in that era, women didn't have money. So we were slaves to men. So think about this.

• 1:10:31Jen Cohen?

  Yes.

• 1:10:31Speaker 02

  We've always been slaves to men till this generation. Think about that. Think about that.

• 1:10:36Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:10:37Speaker 02

  Our generation, okay, made the money to pave the way for these younger kids where they're making, they're not going to even college. They're like, why should I go in debt? I can make six times that month AI, you know, CGI, and all this other crap that they're doing, UCSG and all this shit. They're making all this stuff online without even going to college. Well, we had to go to college. We had to pay our dues. We had to work for the man. They're not doing that anymore. So they're making all this money and living at home and saving money at the same time. Like, it's crazy.

• 1:11:07Jen Cohen?

  It is crazy what's happening.

• 1:11:09Speaker 02

  And then, but then they're socially inept. So there's a payoff at the end of the day. But the girl that's traveling around and, you know, on Instagram and going, I got princess treatment. He's taking me there and here, and I just got my ring and da, da, da, da, da, da. We'll see how long that lasts.

• 1:11:23Jen Cohen?

  What do you think, though, of having like, of traditional values?

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  I'm traditional values. I'm old school, very old school.

• 1:11:28Jen Cohen?

  I'm old school, I'm, by the way.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  I'm way old school, and you would never know that about me. But that's what I've been.

• 1:11:34Jen Cohen?

  You, but you preach it a lot.

• 1:11:36Speaker 02

  I feel better when I'm old school. The minute I get outside of old school, I do not feel good at all.

• 1:11:41Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 1:11:42Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:11:42Jen Cohen?

  I mean, and you all, your whole thing also with like, no sex before monogamy and all these things, you still believe that?

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  But there's a reason, there's a biological reason. You know that, right? So the biological reason, Emily would tell you this. The biological reason is that we have oxytocin. They only get oxytocin through vasopressin. So a man falls in love when he's doing things for you, solving your problems and doing things, building those IKEA shelves, okay? Picking up for dinner every night. When he's doing, he feels good. And then he loves you more. That creates oxytocin, very small amount, but still it does create it. Women, the minute we have sex with you, we fall in love with you, whether we like you or not, whether you got an orgasm or not. The touch creates oxytocin, we bond, that's why we spoon. Okay, and we're screwed. So we can fall in love with the gas station attendant who doesn't give a shit about you.

• 1:12:30Speaker 02

  Okay, will rob you blind, you know, steal your sister at the same time. And we're like, wait, what just happened? He is not bonded. He bonds through vasopressin through.

• 1:12:42Jen Cohen?

  But doesn't that change over time? So let's say you get, so like you can start, you don't think it changes over time?

• 1:12:47Speaker 02

  No, as long as he keeps doing for you, he will be in love with you. That's why they did a study recently, which upset me greatly, that said, women who cook. Okay, don't get the love from the man like women who don't cook. And I automatically cook because that's what my mother and my grandmother do.

• 1:13:04Jen Cohen?

  Right, so then you get screwed.

• 1:13:05Speaker 02

  I remember once I literally was, I was had the best sex I ever had in Florida at one period. It was a dirty thirties, early dirty thirties. And so I thought my boyfriend was cheating. I wasn't sure. And he was leaving the next morning to go on a business trip. So I conveniently went naked under the robe to his house, you know, like one of those, I lived in Florida. And I made his favorite chocolate chip cookies. I stayed up all night baking. That's how he was driving my bus because my hormones were raging to procreate. And have orgasms. Oh, he gave me the best orgasms I ever had. So I was like, Emily would love this story. And I went four years on again, off again. The day I said it was over, I had the click. He wasn't for me, he wasn't treating me right, blah, blah, blah.

• 1:13:48Speaker 02

  I met my fiancee the next day, but I had the click go off. Of course, then he, please come back. I'll marry you. I love you. I told you that every time they always come back. They'll come, they could come back 15 years later. And so you were the one that got away. You're gonna hear women say that to you after this episode.

• 1:14:05Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  Like, yeah. And so the oxytocin controls our brain to make our decisions. Now you get into your 50s. And what happens? Hormones change, right? They change. You get into menopause. Testosterone increases, estrogen goes down.

• 1:14:20Jen Cohen?

  No, testosterone does not increase. For men, for women?

• 1:14:23Speaker 02

  No, for women.

• 1:14:24Jen Cohen?

  Oh, God, I don't know.

• 1:14:25Speaker 02

  Women increase testosterone in menopause and our estrogen decreases. When that happens, our brain changes and we become the man. That's why you can have sex after menopause. And you basically don't get attached.

• 1:14:38Jen Cohen?

  I didn't, I thought you lose testosterone.

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  No, you don't lose testosterone, it increases estrogen, you lose estrogen, you need estrogen. That's why it's very important for people to get on bio-identicals. Which now we know the truth, which they've been lying to us. And I was always Suzanne Somers girl, read the book, went to the doctors, have the best functional medicine doctor, Dr. Reed. You know, Molly Sims goes to her.

• 1:15:02Jen Cohen?

  Do you go to Dr. Reed?

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, love her. Saved my life, she saved my life.

• 1:15:06Jen Cohen?

  I went to her 10 years ago. She's French, right?

• 1:15:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's.

• 1:15:09Jen Cohen?

  She's a very good doctor. I lost her phone number.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  She knew, she's in Santa Monica. She knew about peptides before anyone knew.

• 1:15:16Jen Cohen?

  Anybody else did.

• 1:15:16Speaker 02

  Anyway, I went to another famous doctor in Beverly Hills who almost killed me in COVID. And Dr. Reed saved my life.

• 1:15:23Jen Cohen?

  What do you mean, what kind of doctor did you do?

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  She over-prescribed, I don't want to say her name, but she was really bad.

• 1:15:28Jen Cohen?

  She over-prescribed hormones?

• 1:15:30Speaker 02

  Over-prescribed H- biogenicol, but she misdiagnosed my dosage. And having Hashimoto's and everything, I almost died. And Dr. Reed changed me. She completely changed me. Yeah. And that's important that you go to good physicians that know what they're doing. She won't give you anything FDA, like there's something I wanted and I was reading about and she's like, no, it's not FDA approved yet. Like she's one of those. But she knows about shit before it happens because she's French.

• 1:15:56Jen Cohen?

  I remember she was really good. She was a very good doctor. And I remember when I went to see her for something, she gave me something that nobody else was giving at the time. And she's got a great reputation. I totally forgot about her.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  There's somebody else really famous that goes to her, but I don't want to say it. Molly has talked about it. This other person is even bigger than Molly. And, you know.

• 1:16:14Jen Cohen?

  No, no, I know, I have a lot of friends who go to her.

• 1:16:16Speaker 02

  She knew about Exioms and all the, you know, Gudethion and all the drips before anybody did.

• 1:16:22Jen Cohen?

  No, that's what she gave me, Gudethion like 12 years ago.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  And she said, and like when I got COVID, she knew exactly what to do. Ma- Sam Grant, who's my nutritionist, works part-time with her too. And she's amazing too. So those two people together really changed my life.

• 1:16:36Jen Cohen?

  God, I should go back to see her. Can you give me her number? I forgot.

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  Yes, I will give you two after the show's over.

• 1:16:40Jen Cohen?

  I really want, I gotta go see her again. Is there anything that I forgot to ask you that you think would be something that my audience would like to hear?

• 1:16:48Speaker 02

  You said you mostly cater to men, right? Is that what you said?

• 1:16:51Jen Cohen?

  I would say sixty forty.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:16:52Jen Cohen?

  No, no, no, not all at men.

• 1:16:53Speaker 02

  So I maybe talk about some men's stuff because we talked more about women's stuff. So let's talk about men's stuff. Like, ask me questions about men. What, what, what?

• 1:17:01Jen Cohen?

  Okay, so, well, I was asking, yeah, you're telling me a lot about women. Women, by the way, would love this also, but.

• 1:17:07Speaker 02

  But men were my premium clients. So it started with men and it's still with men because men don't have time. They're busy, they know what they want, and they need someone to give it to them. So if they go back on Instagram with their secretaries, they gotta spend a lot of time, not so much swiping, but screening. And one of the things that I am able to do that nobody can do is me and my team, we screen like nobody. We'll say, we'll know who their first grade boyfriend was. You know, it's like one of those things. And then we know who's right energy for them. Like, I had a really difficult client about three weeks ago who's famous on Instagram, and he gets a million girls, really handsome from the Midwest. And I gave him two girls, right? He likes them both. So now his biggest dilemma is which one do I choose?

• 1:17:51Speaker 02

  I go, well, don't choose any, just keep dating both. And then you'll figure it out. So one of my clients always says to me, you always give me so many choices. I'm like, should I not? Like, other services barely give you one, and I'm giving choices.

• 1:18:03Jen Cohen?

  Don't you think it's better to focus on one person and see if?

• 1:18:06Speaker 02

  No, not in the beginning stage, not these kind of clients. These kind of clients need choices. Because if they go through one, they will come back immediately. They, oh, I pulled the trigger too soon. I'd rather them date a few people than pick one and take their time.

• 1:18:20Jen Cohen?

  Right. Well, you did tell me that earlier.

• 1:18:22Speaker 02

  I mean, that's why I tell women, when the women come in, these men are dating everyone. You date everyone too. Just don't date, you can only date my service. One of the problems I have is that I tell women, the men who pay or the women who pays, that's the client. So they can have as many as they want. You cannot.

• 1:18:39Jen Cohen?

  So in the matchmaking space, who like I'm not good at, besides the dating apps and all the things we already covered, is this a big business?

• 1:18:47Speaker 02

  No, it's a small, it's getting bigger and bigger as we talk about it because of what's going on.

• 1:18:53Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:54Speaker 02

  And AI and AI is gonna now take over in the matchmaking space. That's a new thing that's happening with apps.

• 1:19:00Jen Cohen?

  Really?

• 1:19:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. It'll assist us, but it'll never get rid of the human touch because I don't know what they're doing. I've tried chat GPT for the matchmaking and didn't do what I needed to do. So I, it's, you need a human touch because we are taste, touch and feel. So it's a little different than chat GPT going ethereically what you should do. You know, it's not the same thing. But I will say that AI will be good for recruiting, which means like if I want to find a golfer in Cincinnati at a certain country club, eventually, not today, AI will find me that particular golfer for that client, that female client. So it's like, kind of like it's gonna be my legs on the ground, but I wouldn't say it knows how to actually, sorry, how to put these two people together.

• 1:19:45Jen Cohen?

  You know what I'm just thinking would be a great thing? If they're gonna do something online, LinkedIn should put together.

• 1:19:51Speaker 02

  I always said LinkedIn should do dating.

• 1:19:52Jen Cohen?

  For sure, because it's like you have that.

• 1:19:55Speaker 02

  I don't know them, but I've always said that and I would be the in-house matchmaker and help them put it together. I've always said that.

• 1:20:01Jen Cohen?

  I think that would be brilliant because you, you have like, you have like the built-in audience of people. I think they tried to do that with the league. Do you remember the league?

• 1:20:11Speaker 02

  Well, the league has, has basic dating, but Facebook dating, but it's not the level because you're looking at business profiles. You're looking at people, CEOs and own corporations and you're looking at a higher level of clientele.

• 1:20:25Jen Cohen?

  Okay, I have one last question actually, and then we can wrap. It's been a while, but what do you think of interfaith relationships versus?

• 1:20:32Speaker 02

  Ooh, this is a touchy one. You know, being Jewish, we all want everybody to date Jewish, especially after October 7th.

• 1:20:38Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  Love is love. So I'm not here to tell you not to who to date because you have a different religion. You just gotta know are you compatible? So like, for instance, if you're-

• 1:20:48Jen Cohen?

  I'm talking about compatibility at the end of the day.

• 1:20:50Speaker 02

  If you're orthodox Jewish, you're not gonna date a born again Christian.

• 1:20:52Jen Cohen?

  No, no, I don't mean it like that. What I mean is, like, in historically, then in your experiences with people that you've set up, have you noticed that the people who have longevity over time is people who are Jewish Jewish, Muslim Muslim together versus this one and that one, you know? No?

• 1:21:11Speaker 02

  There are plenty of people that have opposite religions. Most of the people now, I feel, are getting more spiritual. You know, like, I'll go to church with a Catholic guy, like I did my last boyfriend, and then I'll have Passover dinner with him at my house or something like that. But it's more about, do you believe in God? Like, I can't date an atheist. It wouldn't work for me. I'm not religious, although I am a Zionist for Israel, but I can't date somebody who's like, there is, once we die, we're dead. Like, I'm like, no, that we're reincarnated. Like, you know, there's other stuff going on. There are planets. Even, how many times have we now know there's alien life? And yet, nobody wants to talk about it. And I'm sitting here going, there are other planets with other alien life forms. Don't you wanna know about that? Yeah. I'm like, great, until they invade? Okay.

• 1:21:54Jen Cohen?

  Right. So that's not really, so it's more about the spirituality?

• 1:21:57Speaker 02

  Spirituality is believing in God, you know? And, but when you have a religion, and I won't say the one, everybody's gonna know, that will blow themselves up and hurt people in the name of their God, that's a cult. That's not a religion, that's a cult. So I'm sorry if you don't like that. That's a cult, okay? And I'm sorry, because God doesn't hurt people, okay? You know?

• 1:22:20Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 1:22:21Speaker 02

  I was watching One Battle After Another. Did you see it?

• 1:22:24Jen Cohen?

  No.

• 1:22:24Speaker 02

  Oh, so good, so fucking good. It's the best movie, next to Marty Supreme, and that are the two movies of the year. So I watched One Battle After Another, and there's this thing-

• 1:22:32Jen Cohen?

  Where is it on? I wanna watch it.

• 1:22:33Speaker 02

  Um, I think it's on HBO now.

• 1:22:35Jen Cohen?

  Okay.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  So it's with, with our decapio. And so there's this thing, this white supremacist club called the American Christmas Club, in the movie, and I can't give away what it is, but I thought about this, and I went, wait, they don't want anybody whose blood is tainted that's not pure Lily White. I thought, Jesus was a Jew, and he was Sfardic. He did not have white skin, like- Like, like, that's how dumb religion became.

• 1:23:00Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:00Speaker 02

  Like, they just made up their fairy tales as they went along. That's not the truth.

• 1:23:04Jen Cohen?

  Right.

• 1:23:04Speaker 02

  Jesus was a rabbi, did Tefillin every morning. He'd come back and go, what the hell did you people do?

• 1:23:09Jen Cohen?

  That's right. That's interesting. Exactly true. I'm gonna watch that movie.

• 1:23:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, so you're gonna love that and Marty Supreme, both of them.

• 1:23:15Jen Cohen?

  Okay, I'm gonna watch that.

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  Run to, well, they're both online. Well, no, Marty Supreme I saw in the theater last week, but One Battle After Another is on HBO. Yeah.

• 1:23:22Jen Cohen?

  I'm gonna like that. I like that. Okay, I think that's all. We've been doing this for a while now. I don't know how long this podcast is, but if people want to know more about you, where can they find you?

• 1:23:31Speaker 02

  They can either go to MillionairesClub123.com. It's got an S in Millionaires Club, or DM me on Instagram.

• 1:23:37Jen Cohen?

  There.

• 1:23:37Speaker 02

  Patty Stanger with an I.

• 1:23:38Jen Cohen?

  There you go. You heard it here, not first, but you've heard it here. You are great. Again, the OG of matchmaking.

• 1:23:44Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:23:44Jen Cohen?

  And so entertaining, so like, straight. I think that you're just so fun.

• 1:23:49Speaker 02

  Cool.

• 1:23:49Jen Cohen?

  Thank you so much for being on here. I really appreciate it. You're great. And go find Patty on Instagram or the Millionaire. Is there like, any kind of like, survey or something people can fill out?

• 1:23:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, when they get to my website, they can decide if they're gonna be a client or a dater, and then they'll just, the prompts will lead you in.

• 1:24:06Jen Cohen?

  Oh, okay, great.

• 1:24:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, on the website.

• 1:24:08Jen Cohen?

  Perfect. Thank you.

• 1:24:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, thanks for having me.

• 1:24:10Jen Cohen?

  No, thank you for being here. Bye, everyone.