Terrence Howard Opens Up | PBD #753

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Terrence Howard to discuss Hollywood power and celebrity elites, Disney lawsuits and industry blacklisting, pornography addiction and the masculinity crisis, Bitcoin and the future of cryptocurrency, the U. S. economy and inflation, faith and biblical teachings like “empty the storehouse,” and why he believes the entertainment industry operates like a tribe that controls fame, power, and influence. ———- Ⓜ️ MINNECT WITH TERRENCE HOWARD: https://bit.ly/42k9hZ2 Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 📉 KALSHI IRAN MARKET: ⁠https://bit.ly/4u0TMlE⁠ https://bit.ly/4u0TMlE 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  Denzel, he told me, "Hit your hands, man. You're always like this." All these producers want to do is they're trying to open your hand and so they can put money in it. But you won't do it.

• 0:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You're in Hollywood. It's a hookup culture.

• 0:11Speaker 00

  I've dated them, but I never slept with anybody inside.

• 0:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And never slept with anybody, man?

• 0:15Speaker 00

  Nobody inside the business. A healthy male still produce about 1,500 sperm per heartbeat. So that desire to empty the storehouse is always there.

• 0:24Patrick Bet-David?

  The lines you use, I love it. I'd love to empty my storehouse with you today. Can you imagine? How different is it raising boys versus girls?

• 0:32Speaker 00

  Girls are the hardest because men have game. I watch my daughters now and I'm scared to death because of the karma. Because I know the things that I did to women. So I have to make sure none of this stuff is around. And mind you, I didn't masturbate until I was 25 years old. I had them remove the television out of the room of the hotel. Because I couldn't stop. I couldn't stop. I kept watching it.

• 1:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, the Sultan with VagTin and PBD podcast started with a phone, me and Mario. That's it. And it grew today to, you know, 15 million subscribers almost and 164 full-time employees. And that relationship, are you watching us and supporting us? Wouldn't happen without you. But did you know 51% of you that watch the content are not subscribed to the channel? And it would mean the world to us if you could press that subscribe button and notification. Why? It allows us to grow, hire more, do bigger interviews, have a bigger team and deliver a better product to you. So if you haven't yet, if you don't mind, press that subscribe button. It would mean the world to us. Thank you so much.

• 1:50Patrick Bet-David?

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one of one.

• 1:55Speaker 00

  My son's right there.

• 1:56Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 2:03Patrick Bet-David?

  We're doing this again. How you doing?

• 2:05Speaker 00

  I'm really good, brother. You?

• 2:07Patrick Bet-David?

  It's great, very good. You know, it's funny, I was, uh, running. My daughter had a recital today. She had a dance. She was a tiny dancer today. So I go in and a wife says, babe, it's only 15 minutes. I go in, 8:15. And then the tiny dancer part is all the way at the end. But oh my God, you know, when you're there, you're kind of going like this. You're trying to get your kids to see you and then she finally sees me. She runs up and, and I'm driving down. Your school is a couple of minutes away from here. And I know you always talk about being a father. Uh, and it's typically, you know, last time we did the conversation, we didn't talk about this at all. It was a completely different conversation. We had a scientist from NASA with us, which, uh, was a great convo. How important is it to you to be a father?

• 2:50Speaker 00

  The hardest thing about being a dad is not being a hypocrite, not being a phony, you know? You try and, I, I realize I'm talking to my son about things that he's watching, but at the same time, I'm hearing that for myself about things I shouldn't be watching. You know, I'm telling him to maintain his majestic comportment all the time, or telling both of them, you know? Rule number five, six, and seven, respect yourself, respect others, respect people's privacy. And then rule number four in our family is, um, don't be obnoxious. But then I go to Disney World, Disneyland, and I'm sitting there and I get triggered immediately

• 3:35Speaker 00

  because they want to grab my bags and they're going through my bags aggressively and putting my stuff down.

• 3:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Rule number four.

• 3:42Speaker 00

  Rule number four, and I get obnoxious and, you know, and throw attitude. And I'm like, I wouldn't want my child to do that. That's not what I talk about. Yeah, they caught me out about it. Not the kids didn't call me out, but the people that they almost threw us out of Disneyland. You know, only, I didn't curse or anything like that, but I was, I was angry. They take the bag when you come in because someone's recently got stabbed at Disneyland.

• 4:06Patrick Bet-David?

  This is in L.A.

• 4:07Speaker 00

  This is in L.A. So they're going through your bags, literally like it's a serious search. And, you know, measles is out right now. So at the time, I'm sitting there like, wait a minute, you're taking the rags that I, that I'm going to blow my kid's nose with, and you're putting it on the same counter that you put everybody's bags. I was like, don't do that. Don't, he was like, don't give me attitude. And I was like, everybody's got attitude.

• 4:29Patrick Bet-David?

  He told you, don't give me.

• 4:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I'm like, um, and instead of taking a deep breath, like I, I do.

• 4:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Did he know where you were or no, did he?

• 4:37Speaker 00

  No, he didn't know. But, but instead of taking a deep breath.

• 4:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 4:42Speaker 00

  You know, and thinking about, maybe he's having a hard day. I took it personal. I got triggered. And then I'm like, talking to everybody out in the world about maintaining your majestic comportment, being calm, A, B, C, always be cool, always be calm, always be comfortable with the consequences of your choices. And here, my family almost lost the opportunity to be there because I lost my cool. So I hate being a hypocrite as a father, you know, I hate not having the compassion to show the better side of me. So that's the hardest thing.

• 5:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What are the rules? What, what were the rules?

• 5:21Speaker 00

  Oh, then it's, there's nine rules. Rule number one.

• 5:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 5:25Speaker 00

  Put on your shoes, which means take care of your foundation. Make sure you're in a secure place. Rule number two, stay out of the, find the shade. It's find the shade.

• 5:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean?

• 5:37Speaker 00

  Well, in Southern California, it's a lot of heat. So stay out of the heat, but figuratively, it means find cover. So later on, when my children are older, I'll be able to say number two, and they'll know to find the shade. They'll know to get out of the way of danger. Number three, stay out of the streets. And that, that's, that tells itself. But number four is don't be obnoxious. Number five is respect yourself. Number six, respect others.

• 6:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm hmm.

• 6:07Speaker 00

  Number seven, respect people's privacy. Number eight, no headshots. You know, if you're gonna punch your brother, punch him in the chest, punch him in the leg.

• 6:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Literally, that's one of the.

• 6:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, no punching, no, no punching above the neck. No punching above the neck.

• 6:23Patrick Bet-David?

  No headshots. My boys have broken that one a few times.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  And number nine is make way for life.

• 6:31Speaker 00

  And I respect all living things. And I follow that one for the most part a lot, but you know, I sometimes disrespect myself. I sometimes don't respect people's privacy, you know. So I try my hardest not to get caught up in gossip about somebody else all the time. So I'm learning. These are my own rules that if I can live by them, my children can live by them.

• 6:56Patrick Bet-David?

  What was it? Because growing up, how many siblings was it? Was it you and your two brothers?

• 7:01Speaker 00

  There's 11 of us.

• 7:02Patrick Bet-David?

  There's 11 of you. Okay, so I know there's a, I know a couple of the names that I looked up. So 11 total.

• 7:08Speaker 00

  11.

• 7:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Same mom and dad?

• 7:09Speaker 00

  No, only four of us from the same mom and dad.

• 7:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Four same mom and dad, okay. What experiences as a kid growing up changed the way you said, I'm not gonna parent like this. I'm gonna be a father like this. Or I'm gonna be a father just like I was fathered. What experiences impacted your parenting?

• 7:28Speaker 00

  Well, my father, I mean, I was incorrigible. I was, you couldn't, I was indomitable as a child. So you tell me to do something, I'm gonna, I'm going to do it just because you told me not to do it. You know, you don't have authority over me. So I got whooped every day by my father. So I told myself, when I have my children, I'm not gonna whip them. I'm not gonna use corporal punishment on them. I'm not gonna do any of that. But that's not what I ended up doing because you start talking to them a thousand times and they don't listen. And then immediately you go back to the slave days and you're like, well, let me go get the whip. Let me go get the belt.

• 8:11Speaker 00

  Let me do all of this other stuff you're not supposed to do. But you find yourself still back into those places and you have to catch yourself, especially with the laws that's out here today. So now, because I got the benefit, had the benefit of, you know, doing some discipline before. Now if I'm walking upstairs to get the belt, then they straighten themselves out and I don't have to actually apply the belt. But it's hard. How do you raise young boys, you know, that are indomitable to respect authority and respect themselves? And you know, it's a tight balance.

• 8:49Patrick Bet-David?

  How different is it, you know, raising boys versus girls?

• 8:53Speaker 00

  The girls are the hardest. The girls are the hardest. Because they're a little more manipulative. They're smarter.

• 9:01Speaker 00

  You know, the child inside the womb, the moment that the woman's belly body recognizes the little girl, about three months of gestation, it floods it with estrogen. And so it causes these connections between the left and right hemisphere, almost three to five times the connections, from what I've read, that men have. You know, men have this myopic thing, you know, see this, go and do it. But girls contemplate everything. So the girls are so much smarter, naturally, than than the men. And they learn how to manipulate. You know, they learn to cry, they learn to smiles, they learn all of that. And then they're gullible, because they think they've mastered men by mastering manipulating daddy.

• 9:45Speaker 00

  And they go out and they try and do that into the world. So letting my two older daughters go. I watch my daughters now, and I'm scared to death because of the karma. Because I know the things that I did to women when I was growing up, stuff I wouldn't want somebody doing to my daughter. That's just the reality. We don't, you know, like, me and my wife, we talk, and she's like, I would love to make love. I would love to make love. I said, nobody's gonna be sitting there, talking about, you are so beautiful, singing that while they're making love. I said, it's more of an aggressive act in some way, and maybe it's the things that I've watched. But you...

• 10:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Singing while making love?

• 10:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, you know...

• 10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just trying to visualize.

• 10:27Speaker 00

  You know...

• 10:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Man, you think some of these R and B guys could pull it off, like Tevri Campbell or Keith Sweat or something?

• 10:33Speaker 00

  But nobody's doing that.

• 10:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That's impossible to be able to do it.

• 10:36Speaker 00

  You're not...

• 10:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what? I'm gonna talk to my wife today. I'm gonna try it this weekend.

• 10:40Speaker 00

  I try it...

• 10:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What a task.

• 10:41Speaker 00

  I try it, but...

• 10:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, your voice is gonna crack, though, no?

• 10:44Speaker 00

  Yes, I mean, but I mean, figuratively, the singing, the...

• 10:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what do you think? Are you thinking about it? Like, is this a challenge for you as well? Can you sing?

• 10:54Speaker 00

  It's not the singing, it's not the singing, but it's the, you know, it's the foreplay. And that's something that I have to learn to do. The foreplay is the lovemaking.

• 11:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 11:04Speaker 00

  You know, but then when you get to the penetration, that's, that's a different kind of act. That's, you know, that's a testosterone.

• 11:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's intentional, intense.

• 11:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's no Keith Sweat playing in the back of your head. There's none of that.

• 11:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No muse.

• 11:20Speaker 00

  No Joe Cochran.

• 11:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing.

• 11:22Speaker 00

  You know, the dun dun dun dun rubbing the, you know. So it's that balance. Men have this expectation because we've watched, I've watched, I watched a bunch of porn growing up. So I had a, an unnatural expectation of what should have taken place inside of, inside of lovemaking. So I've had to learn, or trying to learn, you know, how to make love in a, in a honest way, in a, in a loving way.

• 11:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Honest way.

• 11:52Speaker 00

  In a loving way. Not in some.

• 11:55Patrick Bet-David?

  So you openly talk about that with your girls?

• 11:58Speaker 00

  Um, I had to. I had to talk to my girls about, do you know how many women I've had encounters with? That if I bumped into them today, I wouldn't know their name. I wouldn't know their face. I was like, do you want to be like that for somebody? Because men have game.

• 12:19Speaker 00

  You know, and I hope that that's enough, but karma, karma doesn't allow that. My daughters probably end up having to deal with the same thing that I did to women, you know? So the karma.

• 12:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Does that scare you?

• 12:33Speaker 00

  Yes, it does. It, but it, it actually sobers you, you know?

• 12:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. And, and you know, the other day we went to one of our friends.

• 12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  His daughter, which is kind of like my niece, we're together all the time. She's got a first boyfriend. So she's in college. He flies in with her. And they bring her over to our house and we're having dinner and we're playing a game and I'm watching him. And I'm like, this guy is nice because the dad. Is a little bit of a brilliant guy, very technical. He has a side to him that he could be an asshole. And he was too soft, like he can be pushed around. Do you sit there and think about like, you know, daughters typically date their fathers? You know, date a man like their fathers? Is that what scares you, like they could date you?

• 13:19Speaker 00

  Yes, and I know how manipulative I was. You know, my uncles were pimps. So I had a different understanding of how you dealt with women. Now, that was the pimp that I played in Hustle and Flow.

• 13:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Too natural.

• 13:32Speaker 00

  Too natural. You have to learn not to.

• 13:37Speaker 00

  You don't, I've got this rule, like, like when Satan asked Jesus to turn stone into bread to feed himself. I, I took from that, you do not turn stone into bread to feed yourself. You don't take a gift that's been given to you, you know, for selfish purposes. So if I had the proverbial gift of gab, it wasn't to be used to talk somebody into a threesome, something I wouldn't want somebody talking my daughters into. But I've done that, you know, in the growing up stages. And that is something that it hits you, constantly comes back, constantly comes back.

• 14:17Speaker 00

  And that's the hardship of raising daughters over raising sons. You know, but nowadays you have to worry about, you know, sons being overly aggressive and getting killed. You know, because the men in my family are very aggressive, you know, and dealing with authority. So girls scare me though the most.

• 14:38Patrick Bet-David?

  How, how is it for you when you're with your wife and you're out, I don't, maybe this has happened, maybe it hasn't happened, where a woman approaches you and it's from back in the days of relationship? Has that ever happened to you?

• 14:48Speaker 00

  Only, we've only bumped into one girl that I've dated from the past.

• 14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  That means you don't get out much.

• 14:54Speaker 00

  No, we don't.

• 14:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 14:55Speaker 00

  I don't go out.

• 14:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't risk it.

• 14:57Speaker 00

  And, and the girls I dated, I never dated anybody in the business.

• 15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 15:01Speaker 00

  No.

• 15:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause that's.

• 15:02Speaker 00

  I mean, I've gone, yes, I went, I've dated them, but I never slept with anybody inside.

• 15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And never slept with anybody?

• 15:09Speaker 00

  Nobody inside the business.

• 15:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Never?

• 15:11Speaker 00

  No, nobody I dated.

• 15:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 15:13Speaker 00

  Cambo, I've gone out with, I'm not even gonna run the list, but I've gone out with a lot of girls. I've slept in the same bed with them, but I would not, you know, I don't know why I wouldn't attack them. I wouldn't do that. That was.

• 15:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're in the business, you're in Hollywood. It's a business where you see everybody is, you know, for the most part, you see they they hook up. It's a hookup culture. It's you're you're shooting a movie, you're gone for thirty days. You know, you, I think it was Bert Reynolds. Who was it that wrote a book? Jolene Jolene, who who who's the singer of Jolene? What's her name? Uh, um, Dolly, Dolly Parton writes, I think, in a book. She says, we're doing a movie. You could fact check this, but I read this either in her book or somewhere. Her and Bert Reynolds are doing a movie and they had never been together before. And she just says, listen, let's get it knocked out of the way. So we don't even think about it. And then boom, they go handle their business and then they do the movie. Could have been her or him or somebody else.

• 16:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But for you to say nobody ever, it's not like you didn't have the chances. You're a good looking guy.

• 16:18Speaker 00

  I dated a lot of girls. I dated a lot of them, but at the time still I was battling between being a Jehovah's Witness or trying to study as a Jehovah's Witness. And but there has to, there's a feeling of you know what is your prey. You know, you know who has that interaction with you and the girls are beautiful.

• 16:40Patrick Bet-David?

  No fantasy of wanting to be a Hollywood couple? Like what if her and I, you never thought about it that way?

• 16:46Speaker 00

  No, that was never on the table for me.

• 16:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You see Jay-Z with Beyonce, you see these couples where it's like.

• 16:52Speaker 00

  I had a chance to date Beyonce, you know, early on. And we had a conversation, you know, and I ended up talking to the other girl inside of, you know, Destiny, the girl with the blue eyes. And I remember Beyonce looking over at me and I think that's why she picked me to do that dance when she did the, you know, the kind of striptease dance that we did at BET's or whatever, to show me what I had lost, what I, but I had, I was attracted. There was a moment in which I felt something there.

• 17:29Patrick Bet-David?

  With Beyonce?

• 17:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that was long before she was with Jay-Z. That was very, very long ago.

• 17:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, that was, they were big back then when they were coming up. They were very big when they were coming up.

• 17:40Speaker 00

  Destiny's Child.

• 17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Destiny's Child, yeah.

• 17:42Speaker 00

  That's what it was.

• 17:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Beyonce, yes, I I I'm uh I'm actually very surprised that that's not something you ever did. So it was always girls. So how did you protect yourself as a guy that's in movies? You're famous, you're a celebrity, girls are throwing themselves at you. How do you protect yourself from not getting in trouble? The way a lot of the other guys got in trouble.

• 18:04Speaker 00

  Well, you don't you don't crap where you eat at the same time. I knew that that all of those things come back and the people inside the business, how many of them were hooking up? I didn't want to get involved with that. I didn't want. Somebody touch.

• 18:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Was a girl ever surprised when you said no to her?

• 18:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, somebody, a few girls was like, don't, one girl was like, uh, don't you want to know what it's like to be inside of me? And I said, I said, I'm already inside of you. You know, we're already communicating, you know, I'm already there with you. But it wasn't the, we didn't have that passion, the the passion wasn't there. When I met my wife, the entire world came together and, you know, I understood eternity from meeting her. I didn't feel that with the other women, you know, so I had girls that I would hang out with, you know, everybody has have. When you're growing up, you got some, and today I sit back and I think that's somebody's. That's somebody's mother now, that's somebody's grandmother now, you know, and the stuff I was asking them to do.

• 19:10Speaker 00

  I mean, that's the regret, that's the regret, you just.

• 19:15Speaker 00

  You know, but you deal with it.

• 19:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you know, uh, does it at all bother you when he talks about this stuff or no? Not at all. I'm amazed by that.

• 19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Today, they hit on him with you there. How do you react to it?

• 19:36Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you handle it? How do you handle it?

• 19:38Speaker 00

  I mean, I handle it with grace and a smile, you know?

• 19:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm flattered.

• 19:42Speaker 00

  Like guys try and talk to her.

• 19:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, you have a beautiful wife, so it's not like, you know, both of you guys are...

• 19:47Speaker 00

  And we're not even married. We got divorced 12 years ago.

• 19:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You told me last time, but it's pretty much...

• 19:53Speaker 00

  This is my one. But you guys are together. This is my one.

• 19:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 19:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is my one.

• 19:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's not the main squeeze? It is the only squeeze?

• 19:59Speaker 00

  It's the only squeeze.

• 20:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, that's good.

• 20:00Speaker 00

  It's the only squeeze, because we're starting to look like each other. You know? She's actually become more me.

• 20:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That is so funny.

• 20:10Speaker 00

  You know, you see couples, you see people with their dogs, you know, that's...

• 20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  The dogs, for sure.

• 20:15Speaker 00

  You look like the person that you are with. You behave like the person you're with.

• 20:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 20:20Speaker 00

  So she's changed me a lot, but, you know, guys come up and try and flirt with her at other times, and she's so kind about it. She's like, "Wow, you're handsome, but not in this lifetime. Maybe the next one. Maybe the..."

• 20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  She'll say that.

• 20:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, maybe the next one.

• 20:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Not in this lifetime, maybe in the next one.

• 20:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, and it's a nice way of, you know, being flattered and also being let down gently.

• 20:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So, uh, uh, uh, marriage and parenting, both questions, you know? Uh, uh, when I'm building my national business, I was building an insurance agency, so I was on the road for six months added year, going to all those other places. You're on the road all the time. When you do movies, I'm assuming, I don't know the life, I'm assuming you're on the road making movies, you know, should... How do you manage that and parent and, uh, relationship, marriage? How do you manage those? It's gotta be super difficult.

• 21:13Speaker 00

  Well, the hardest thing is when you take your family on the road with you, you're not able to completely commit to the character. You're trying to, but you come home and then you have to be husband. You have to be father. You have to be all of those things. But when you don't have your family there, you're kind of open to the wind. You know, everybody wants to hang out with you. So I've had to... My wife, she'll let me go to the job the first few days by myself, so I can lock in, maybe a week. But then after that, she comes. You know, but she gives me a lot of space and sometimes she'll give me a separate place,

• 21:54Speaker 00

  you know, because they'll provide a house for me, for the fat, they'll provide housing for me. But then she will get a separate place where the kids are and sometimes will let me be over there if I've got to go and do the work I need to do. But that's the only way I found that after two weeks apart, we change our chemistry. You know, where we used to be like, oh, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm so in love, I'm so locked in, I'm so, so everything. But as males, we still produce, a healthy male still produce about 1,500 sperm per heartbeat. So that desire to, that need to, to share and, and empty the storehouse is always there. And after two weeks, that can become a problem.

• 22:37Patrick Bet-David?

  The lines you use, I love it. Listen, I'd love to empty my storehouse with you today.

• 22:48Speaker 00

  I have delivery to make.

• 22:51Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you, how do you manage, it is a real thing. I mean, if you're a man, it's a real thing. My, my guys would ask me, Pat, how do you, how do you manage to, you know, when you have to empty the storehouse, how did you do it?

• 23:02Speaker 00

  You can either take the route of self abuse where you end up despising yourself afterwards, you know, or you can, all right, I gotta go work out, you know, or I need my wife to be here. So you go home, you know, I'm quick to fly back home and, but most of the time, you know, my one stays with me, you know, and it's not like we get to play every day. You know, you get older and you just, if it happens once a week, but now we spend so much more time communicating, you know, just touching her leg on my leg at night is what will help me go to sleep, you know. Maybe at 57, this is just what happens, you know, but it's a good thing now.

• 23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you deal with your mortality? Does it mess with you? Are you accepting it? Are you cool? You know, we, we just saw recently, is it James Van Der Beek that we lost from Dawson's Creek and he made a video about getting closer to God.

• 23:59Speaker 00

  Eric Dane.

• 24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Eric Dane, Robert Duvall.

• 24:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And I saw a video of Robert Duvall back in the days of him doing an interview about Godfather and Marlon Brando and how opinionated he was about the role. But how do you deal with your mortality?

• 24:15Speaker 00

  I recognize that there's no such thing as death. Because the energy, you know, the wave crests up. And then it drops into a trough and then it reforms up again. But even when it drops in a trough, it's still there. But it's just an unseen part of it. You know, there's no real death. Everything that comes from us. Ends up still feeding the next thing and all living things feed off of living things. So it's a transitional process and like when I met my wife. It felt like her and I. I had been looking for her for a thousand lifetimes. And didn't know that I had been looking for her. I felt eternity at that moment. And knowing that.

• 25:00Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, this is, this is starting to crack. The, the seams are starting to be seen in this. It means that the minute I get to relax again, I get to go back to sleep. And then when I'm reborn and you know, my philosophy is. Everything goes from positive to negative, breathing in and breathing out. So the next lifetime, I believe you end up as a male. You know, the older we get, what happens? Our testosterone drops, our estrogen levels rise, our prostate, which has the same fibers or, or tissue that's, that the uterus has. It begins to swell and like women that typically go through their period and all of that. Our bodies, when we lose our testosterone, is slowly becoming more effeminate.

• 25:44Speaker 00

  Naturally, you know, we get older, we gotta try not to grow boobs as, as men, you know? We get softer and all that. So I think in the next lifetime, you, you don't breathe in twice without breathing out once, so you go from masculine to feminine.

• 25:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So you think next lifetime, you're gonna be a woman?

• 26:00Speaker 00

  You have to go into the feminine.

• 26:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You really believe that?

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Oh, my goodness. That's the only way there would be equanimity. Otherwise, you know, you can't breathe in twice or three times without breathing out once. You have to, it has to be the ebb and flow. The cloud moves forward a little bit, then the cloud takes a step back, and then it pushes to forward, and then it takes a step back. So that equanimity, I think, allows for karma to take place because what we've done in this lifetime as males will be done to us in the next lifetime as females. And sooner or later, you learn how to be extra medium and stay right in the center and not do too much.

• 26:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You really believe this?

• 26:41Speaker 00

  Honestly.

• 26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  When, when did you come to this conclusion?

• 26:43Speaker 00

  Maybe about ten years ago, ten years ago, just looking.

• 26:48Patrick Bet-David?

  What prompted it? What?

• 26:50Speaker 00

  Just looking at the conversion of electricity into magnetism. Electricity does the same thing. It, it's always seeking that higher pressure condition, and when it gets to the very center, like it comes in through the north pole and through the south pole, and when it gets to the center of the earth and has no place left to go, and it keeps still trying to spin right, and there's no room for it, so it's forced to spin to the left. And it comes out as radiation, as magnetism at the equator. That's, that's just the natural process. And if elements do the same thing, they start off lithium as a plus one, and you get into the next octave. At the very end of it, it's made as fluorine on this side, you know, plus one and a minus

• 27:33Speaker 00

  one, and you go into the next octave, the fluorine, which was the mate for, for lithium, now in the next octave, that fluorine becomes sodium, it goes masculine. And then that sodium bonds with chlorine, and in the next octave, the chlorine becomes potassium. So it's going from male to female, and if, if as above, so below, you know, and if A is equal to B and B is equal to C, then A is equal to C. Find the common factor and multiply and divide. So if we are made up of all these elements, these chemicals, that's doing these things, and consciousness comes as a result of these interactions, then the entire universe must take the same walk if one is doing it.

• 28:16Speaker 00

  The one thing that everything is based on, if the foundation, if this is how the foundation moves, I'm sorry, the boat is going to move according to how the seas move. And that's all we are, boats or waves on this thing of the universe popping up. We still have to follow that path.

• 28:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Was this prompted 10 years ago by you having man boobs? And you said, maybe this is what's happening to me. Is that kind of like a, is that like, hey, I used to have muscles up here. I used to be able to flex.

• 28:45Speaker 00

  No, I think it started with, um, a friend of mine was having prostate issues.

• 28:52Patrick Bet-David?

  How old was he?

• 28:53Speaker 00

  Um, he was only 60 and he was having serious prostate issues. And I began studying what the prostate is like and, you know, trying to find a solution for him. And that's when I realized that the testes ultimately pull up and become ovaries. And the, the prostate becomes the uterus. And in the feminine side, the uterus drops down and becomes the, the prostate. The ovaries drop down and they become testicles. The clitoris becomes the penis, all of that stuff. It's, it's just an in and out process. The universe is very simple. It's not complicated. Now we can throw all these other things, like you throw religion in there and it, it tells you that you're going to die.

• 29:38Speaker 00

  And then you're going to float up into the heavens. But when have we seen that happen? How does that fit with the sustainability of, of our ecology, of our environment, of our universal flow? There's always a back and forth, you know? How is it that a male god had a male son without a feminine counterpart of as above, so below? You know, those are the things we, we follow these myths or religious understandings that, that we've been taught without questioning them.

• 30:16Speaker 00

  Without question, if somebody said, "Oh, I had a dream the day and an angel showed up and told me to do da-da-da-da-da-da." Most people would look at them like they were insane. But most of our faith is based off of someone that had an interaction like that. But it was told to us by someone with authority, our mother, our father, and it was told to them by someone with authority. And we give that authority and wherever they get that information, whether it's from the Hebrew Bible, whether it's from the Quran, whether it's from, you know, the ancient texts of the Veda, we believe it based upon the authority that someone else has put in it. But many things we haven't questioned for ourselves.

• 31:01Patrick Bet-David?

  You used to be a Jehovah's Witness.

• 31:02Speaker 00

  Yes, I used to study with Jehovah's Witness. I never got baptized.

• 31:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you never did?

• 31:07Speaker 00

  No, I never got baptized, but I studied for 25 years.

• 31:09Patrick Bet-David?

  For 25 years, would you have considered yourself a Jehovah's Witness?

• 31:13Speaker 00

  Yes, I considered myself, just I hadn't made it to the point of being completely dedicated and getting baptized.

• 31:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What prevented you?

• 31:24Speaker 00

  I asked a question one day.

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• 33:45Speaker 00

  I have to drink some water for this.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  According to the Bible,

• 33:55Speaker 00

  it never rained on this planet until the year 2348 BCE. 4,370 years ago. Or 4,000, yeah, 4,730 years ago, I think.

• 34:12Speaker 00

  Adam wasn't created, was created in the year, you know, depending on how you take it, the Meserite text says that he was created in the year 4,004 BCE.

• 34:27Speaker 00

  Other people have it at 4,024 BCE. And if you look up and if you can Google or or Hit Chat, the idea that it never raining on this planet in the 4.6 billion years that the standard model says, that hit me kind of strangely. And I began asking questions about that. Is it possible for there never to have been rain on this planet until the year 2348 BCE? They couldn't give me an answer for it. So I started doing research.

• 35:12Speaker 00

  And I looked into glaciations and ice cores. And the deeper you look into the ice cores, you can go back almost 1.2 million years and you see the same recursive recursive things that's taking place. And in order to have glaciers in those place means you have precipitation. In order to have precipitation, you have a hydrologic system that is functioning. And rain, snow begins as rain initially and it freezes. So that question right there made me stop. If you look at the and mind you, I love. It's not that I don't believe in God,

• 35:56Speaker 00

  but the what we've been taught is not lining up with archaeological truth, archaeological facts. If you look at the tree rings, you know, they don't support the idea of a global flood. It supports the idea of perhaps a regional flood in a given area. But to support a global flood, all of those tree rings, you know, for water to be on the earth for 150 days and everything's crushed underneath it, all the trees would die. So you would see a new growth pattern. But we still see tree rings that goes back 12,000 years. So there could, there was a flood. There's a number of reports for a regional flood.

• 36:39Speaker 00

  But as far as it being a global flood, that doesn't match according to archaeological facts, according to the glacial facts.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  So I had to start questioning those things. And remember, we were told that the Bible is the word of God. And man wrote it, but it was under inspiration. And I was like, well, if I look at 4004 BCE as the starting point for man being here, well, that doesn't match the genealogical records of everyone coming up out of Africa and making their movement through Gobekli Tempo, all of these places. They 13,000 years old. Other places showing that mankind has been here at least 300,000 years or at least a million years.

• 37:34Speaker 00

  So that was a hard thing for me because I felt like I was losing my religion. But at the same time, I was gaining my common sense. That when they began writing about trying to understand what was taking place, they use the best tools that they had available at the time. But those tools, now we have more sensitive instruments. And so we should be using those sensitive instruments and using our common sense and take the stories that we can from these things, but not to...

• 38:12Speaker 00

  We have to walk away from fairy tales at the end of the day and hold on to truth and hold on to the God when we pray. Who do we pray to? Do we pray out there? Or are we praying to a deeper place inside, the connectivity to the Creator? And the thought that I had to go through an interceder, like I'm a father. There's nothing that any of my sons could do or my daughters could do that they would have to go through somebody else in order, one of my other children, to talk to me. There's no way, and I'm not even a perfect father. I'm a loving father and a just father, but there's nothing that my son could do

• 38:55Speaker 00

  that would make me throw him into a fire and burn him

• 38:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Bless you.

• 39:00Speaker 00

  for, you know, for eternity for something he did for thirty or forty years, or even eighty years. The equanimity, it doesn't balance out. The reciprocity, it doesn't balance out. You know, and I'm thinking, God is love, so how can you do that too? But that's what some of the scriptures are talking about, or that's what some of the faith believes in. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that, no, you just die and you're wiped out forever, and that's a loving thing.

• 39:34Speaker 00

  But they were never able to explain the, or help me to reconcile, the dates of Bible chronology based upon archaeological truth.

• 39:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What did your father believe in?

• 39:48Speaker 00

  My father was a Muslim.

• 39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He was a Muslim?

• 39:50Speaker 00

  My father was a Muslim.

• 39:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What about your mother?

• 39:52Speaker 00

  My mother was a Baptist.

• 39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And was he a practicing Muslim?

• 39:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's a practicing Muslim.

• 39:56Patrick Bet-David?

  He was?

• 39:57Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. He became a Muslim when he went to prison, so.

• 39:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you ever become a Muslim?

• 40:00Speaker 00

  Yes, my name was Saleman, you know? Practiced a lot, did all of that.

• 40:06Patrick Bet-David?

  For how long?

• 40:07Speaker 00

  Up until I was thirteen.

• 40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Up until thirteen, you're Muslim?

• 40:10Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 40:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And then how did you walk away from it?

• 40:13Speaker 00

  I've talked about this before, but there was a day I came home and all of the brothers from the masjid was over at the house, and there was this brother, Yakub, you know, very kind, loved his scent, loved his nature. But apparently, he had castrated Wino, a homeless person, for urinating on the masjid.

• 40:40Patrick Bet-David?

  He castrated him?

• 40:41Speaker 00

  Castrated him.

• 40:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's sharing this story with you?

• 40:44Speaker 00

  No, no, no. All everybody's around, like thirteen of the brothers from the mosque are there because Yakub has been arrested and they're talking about that. And he, they were sitting, the argument was, the conversation was, um, well, he shouldn't have, you know, defi-, you know, um, he shouldn't have.

• 41:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Castrated.

• 41:07Speaker 00

  Well, he shouldn't have, uh, what is the term? I can't, desecrate, that was it. He shouldn't have desecrated the Holy Temple by urinating on the mosque. That was what they were talking about. They weren't talking about the fact that this young man or older gentleman was also a child of God that may have been lost. And I was like, that, it was so severe.

• 41:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You're overhearing this conversation?

• 41:36Speaker 00

  Yes, I'm, I'm sitting, no, I'm in the stairs and they're in the living room.

• 41:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're not part of the conversation, the thirteen men are having?

• 41:43Speaker 00

  I'm just listening.

• 41:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 41:45Speaker 00

  And it could have been twelve, but it felt like, uh, you know, all the seats were taken up. And so at that moment, I started questioning Islam in that regard because the, uh, God of love, you know, I couldn't see that happening. So then I started exploring, you know, Methodist, Explorer, Catholicism. And then by the time I'm like seventeen, I bump into witnesses and they tell me about the truth about Christmas, the truth about Easter, the truth about all of these things. And I believe it because it is the truth. But when it came to, they tell you, stay away from astrology. And I'm like, why do you stay away from astrology?

• 42:30Speaker 00

  But I listened. And then when I did my research, astrology came from astronomy. All of our religion, the twelve plant, the twelve constellations that the sun goes through, became the twelve disciples. The sun dying on the twenty first of December, you know, and being dead for three days. And then on the twenty fifth, it rises again and becomes that southern cross. I was like, wow, they wanted me to stay away from astrology because it was the basis of most religions.

• 43:07Speaker 00

  And so that was a red flag for me.

• 43:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting.

• 43:11Speaker 00

  It was a very, it was a huge red flag for me.

• 43:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me ask you, you know, to me, there, there's a couple of ways with this, right? One of them is, um, the actual debate, which is the, you know, theological debate you can have on faith. Um, and that can go for hours, right? You know, Christianity, Muslim, you know, Jewish, you know, Seventh Day Adventists, you know, Mormon, we can go that route, that's one side. From your experience, you've traveled all over the world. You've been all over the place, you've been around everybody. Who do you think produces the best societies? And produces the best safest results?

• 43:50Speaker 00

  Well, the Buddhists, for the most part, because they don't really put anything into a higher being. The Buddhists are more so the interconnectedness of the universe, you know, the entanglement and doing things based on karma, based upon, but without the idea that you want to gain something in return from it. It's more of a living way, you know, instead of a worshiping way. A lot of our worship now has become something perfunctory, you know, and it's transactional. If I do good, then I can ask God to help me and people do things in, hoping they're gonna get something in exchange, instead of balancing and doing good

• 44:33Speaker 00

  just from the sake of doing good, you know, because it's the right thing to do. That's what not rule number nine is make way for life. You gotta take, you're gonna have to take in this world, but take responsibly and give as much as you take. If you're gonna eat a piece of fruit, the Buddhist way, the human living way, be appreciative that you got the, the flesh of the fruit, but why not go and plant the seed? Why do we throw the seed in the trash? The embryo, why do we throw the plant's embryo into the trash? Why don't, since it's sustained us, why don't we go and plant that somewhere? You know, and maybe when our children or one of our seedlings is out there in the world

• 45:17Speaker 00

  and somebody uses it, they'll also place it in a good place. So it's for the karma of it. Um, but I'm, I, I don't follow, you know, any religion anymore.

• 45:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Today, nothing.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  No religion, but I pray constantly.

• 45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Who pray to? How does it start?

• 45:36Speaker 00

  The universe, because I believe the entire universe is God.

• 45:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You say, "Dear Heavenly Father," or what do you say?

• 45:40Speaker 00

  Um, I have a name.

• 45:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You have a name?

• 45:44Speaker 00

  I have a name.

• 45:45Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's not, "Dear Heavenly Father."

• 45:47Speaker 00

  No, it's because it can't just be Heavenly Father. It can't just be, I, just a man up there, a male figure. It has to be both a masculine and a feminine side of the deities in order for there to be balance with it. But there's an energy, and the masculine has always been the electric. The feminine has always been the magnetic, you know? The discharging, the expansive. And so, when I, when I balance with that, and I see everything is God. There's no part that's not made from the Creator. It wasn't just man that was made in the likeness of God, you know? Because when you look at the, at, at how everything is born, how it's raised, how it's, how it gestates inside of the body,

• 46:32Speaker 00

  it still takes the same curl. It still unwinds the same way. The same thing in hemoglobin, same thing in chlorophyll, same thing in the blood of the cephalopods. Just one or two trace elements is changed in the center of the nucleus. So, there is nothing that's not made from the Creator. And so, instead of God living, where in, where in the universe is God? Is he, you know, near Alpha Centauri somewhere? Or is he outside of the universe? No, I believe the universe collectively is God. Therefore, all of us are part of the Creator, you know? I'm as small as, when I want to be small, I think about Terrence Howard. But when I want to be large, I think about Terrence Howard in the universe.

• 47:15Speaker 00

  And Terrence Howard disappears, and then now, I'm a part of everything.

• 47:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you ever read "Conversation with God"?

• 47:21Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 47:22Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think about it?

• 47:23Speaker 00

  I loved it.

• 47:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 47:24Speaker 00

  I loved it.

• 47:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Was it recent, or was it?

• 47:26Speaker 00

  That was 20 years ago.

• 47:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 47:27Speaker 00

  That was 20 years ago.

• 47:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just wondering, like, you know, because you...

• 47:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You'll hear words being used and it's, you know, the universe. I'm like, okay, so that's sometimes folks who read the book Conversation with God, they would speak the language that way. And then some people had a bad experience with a person who was a member of a church. And then there's a fallen out. For me, I was an atheist 25 years. I had nothing but bad experiences and I was like, I'm not even dealing with it. And then I met with a man whose name was Mono and he said the most powerful thing to me. He says, if you judge God horizontally, you'll always be disappointed. You know, because people will let you down. They will, you know, but if you judge it vertically, you know, that's where the relationship begins because it's you and him.

• 48:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's the element of faith, you know, because for somebody like you, would you consider yourself a very analytical guy? I think you're very analytical.

• 48:23Speaker 00

  I'm analytical. I examine things, but I'm very emotional at the same time.

• 48:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You wouldn't be in the business you're in if you weren't. So it's a good balance of both, right? Right brain and left brain. How do you manage faith? How do you deal with faith?

• 48:36Speaker 00

  Well, like you said, with conversations with God, I believe every conversation is with God because everything is divine, you know, and so when I deal with people, a gentleman told me once, he said, in every person you meet, there's this little piece of God in them. That's who you talk to. And then I added to that, but make sure they see it in you first. And so that's how I deal with faith. I approach everyone as if I'm talking to the Creator. And I wish I had talked to that gentleman at Disneyland, like, okay, wait a minute. This is God right here instead of, instead of this insignificant worm that's stopping me.

• 49:19Patrick Bet-David?

  He's gonna manect you. He's gonna be like, Terrence, I'm so sorry because Terrence Howard is on manect. If you got any questions, you can always manect them. Here, we're gonna put the QR code below. You ever heard of Hafiz? The poet Hafiz?

• 49:30Speaker 00

  No.

• 49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a Persian poet. I'm trying to find this thing because of what you said. I read this many years ago and he said something about... Um, man, I gotta find this, because I think you would love it. He says, uh, okay. God is speaking through everything, through the wind, through the flute, through your own breath. So sometimes it kind of goes to, um, and if you go a little bit deeper in it, he says, sometimes God speaks through you. He uses human beings as a way to communicate to you. That's, uh, and by the way, Hafiz is like Rumi, I'm sure you've heard of Rumi. If you know Rumi in Iran, many times they'll talk about Hafiz as well, so. Faith for you is in conversations with, okay, so let me ask you this.

• 50:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Being in the, in Hollywood, you've acted with a lot of different, you know, guys in the business. You've done movies with some of the best and, you know, we talked about one time which movie you were in, which was, uh, uh, uh, my favorite, the one with Channing Tatum, what is it? Fighting, oh my God, the way you played in that movie. I watched it multiple times because of how we talked about it last time. Wha- what did anyone in the business tell you about faith? Are there a lot of people that believe in God? Is it more those who don't? Is it more, because you know, I'm, I'm curious, like, you're on the set, okay, guys, we got a three hour break. You're sitting there with somebody that you're doing a movie with. What are some of the most profound things any colleague told you about relationship with God and faith?

• 50:58Speaker 00

  Well, most of them have lost their faith. You know, they talk about God because it's a good talking point, you know? I like to thank God for all of these things, but they never identify, you know, everybody, a God is anything that you worship. You know, some people's God is money, because they do anything for it. They'll sacrifice themselves, they'll sacrifice their children, you know, some people's God is lust. And they're willing to sacrifice all of that. A God is something that you put, that you will trade everything for, or you turn to, you know, when you're doing nothing else. So most conversations on set, you know, are, are as shallow as you can imagine,

• 51:42Speaker 00

  because these actors, they're scared.

• 51:46Speaker 00

  They're scared. We come into the business because, not that we want to perform, but we're hoping to be validated. We're hoping that, you know, so the kids that tease me in school will know that he's an important person. He's somebody worth listening to. So when you're on set, most of them has had to trade in a lot of their beliefs and and the things they hold precious to themselves. Because they're in, to get into that place, to get into that business, that it makes them not want to talk about faith because they feel short

• 52:26Speaker 00

  in themselves, but they don't realize that all you gotta do to wash yourself is truly just to wash yourself. Every day you go to sleep, it's like death. You're dying. You die according to your sins and next morning you're able to wake up with a fresh head. Now you can go and be a gravedigger and go dig up the bones from yesterday and follow it. So the conversations I have with people is mostly about, you know, you gotta remember that God renews. I am what I shall become.

• 52:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was the best example of somebody you watched? Like what you said was mind boggling. You never slept with anybody in the business, never. You said you laid in bed with them and one of them asked you, "Don't you want to know what it feels like to be inside of me?" And you said, "I already am," right? By the way, when you said "inside of me," you know where it took me, Rob? You know that movie Forgetting Thera Marshall where he's singing "Inside of You"? Do you know what you're not talking? He's hilarious. "Inside of me."

• 53:25Patrick Bet-David?

  He is so funny. But was there anybody where you're like, "Man, what a devout, disciplined, you know, a man of faith or a woman of faith to be in Hollywood." Was there any one example where you were blown away by?

• 53:42Speaker 00

  No, because most of the girls have had to trade so much to get there. They don't have, they know that that's part of the transaction.

• 53:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred percent of them?

• 53:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, the interesting thing was, Nia Long once, not that we dated or anything, but we were doing this movie butter. I mean, Nia, I've got to, I give her a lot of credit because she's probably responsible for me being the actor I am today.

• 54:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Nia Long.

• 54:11Speaker 00

  Nia, because Nia would constantly go and anytime she was on a project, she'd be like, you need to bring Terrence here. You knew, who's Terrence? Oh, this is dope, dah dah dah dah. Well, one day, we're on the set and we're flirting. And we had talked about, okay, let's hang out afterwards. And so I get in my car and I'm like, okay, so, you know, where do you want to meet up at? And she's like, if you think I'm gonna let you come home and have your way with me, you got something else coming.

• 54:41Patrick Bet-David?

  She said that?

• 54:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, but she said it in a good way because it was, it was, we, there was, there was an attraction there. But she was like, and we've been great friends for twenty something years since then. You know, another girl, um, she's not an actress.

• 54:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And Nia Long is a dime.

• 54:57Speaker 00

  She isn't.

• 54:58Patrick Bet-David?

  She's gorgeous, yeah.

• 54:59Speaker 00

  She's a whole dollar.

• 55:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 55:00Speaker 00

  She is a whole dollar. You know? She was, but that, the integrity, the foresight that she showed, you know? Because afterwards, you, we knew it wouldn't have been a forever relationship.

• 55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That didn't make you want to pursue it even more?

• 55:16Speaker 00

  No, it made me like, I, I dig her. I dig her for seeing the truth of it. Yeah, she, she spoke the truth. She spoke the truth.

• 55:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Was she with somebody at that time, or both of you guys were single?

• 55:26Speaker 00

  We were both single.

• 55:27Patrick Bet-David?

  And is she married? I don't know.

• 55:28Speaker 00

  She's married, she was married. I think, think she got divorced recently, but.

• 55:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, interesting, okay.

• 55:34Speaker 00

  But that one got me.

• 55:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Who else? You were gonna say somebody else.

• 55:37Speaker 00

  I'm not, I don't know.

• 55:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Nia Long to me, Nia was a, a. Oh, wait, she was with that coach?

• 55:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta be kidding me.

• 55:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, she ended up marrying him.

• 55:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 55:53Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting. And he had some controversy tied to him. He was...

• 55:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, you got all the girls there around you. I don't know what happened, but something happened. But just the fact that she had the integrity and the foresight to saying, no, this isn't gonna go where, you know, she was really looking for love at the same time. You know, one of my best friends or someone that used to be my best friend, girl named Stephanie Baklaan, you know, who we met to date, but then we got in the car, we smoked a joint, and sat there in front of the parking lot, in the, ready to go somewhere. And we realized we were gonna be buddies for life. And so I ended up sleeping on her couch for six months,

• 56:37Speaker 00

  when I didn't have work or anything like that, and that's where John Singleton came and met me, and ended up getting Hustle and Flow. You know, she was a really good person, but that came as a result of us having an attraction. But recognizing that the attraction, just because you're drawn to somebody doesn't mean it has to culminate in sexuality. You know, and sometimes we go to that base...

• 57:04Speaker 00

  Oh, wow, yes, Nicole Ari Parker.

• 57:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened?

• 57:09Speaker 00

  We were doing a movie together and, and we've kind of felt like, oh, you know what? We're, we're playing boyfriend and girlfriend, and there was a bit of an attraction. And we're sitting there laying in bed, clothes on, but watching TV. This is long before she met Boris or anything like that. And we looked at each other like, what are we about to do? And we laughed, and we've been super close ever since, you know? Marvin Gage's daughter.

• 57:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing happened?

• 57:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, nothing happened.

• 57:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, some people are watching the same. You're a saint. I mean, this is...

• 57:42Speaker 00

  No, not a saint.

• 57:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So you believe, you believe in men and women can be friends without having sexual attraction and...

• 57:49Speaker 00

  Well, you have the attraction, but you just don't act on it. And if you feel something, like if I'm, if I feel like I have a great attraction to sort of somebody, I was doing a movie with this girl Nikki. I forgot, what's Nikki's last name?

• 58:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Nicole was in Boogie Nights?

• 58:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, she's in Boogie Nights.

• 58:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Boogie Nights?

• 58:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was she in Boogie Nights? She wanted to be in Boogie Nights. I didn't know she was in Boogie Nights. And by the way, just so the audience knows, your wife is giving these names.

• 58:20Speaker 00

  Because we've talked about it.

• 58:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sure.

• 58:22Speaker 00

  We've talked about it. I

• 58:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's cool.

• 58:24Speaker 00

  I dated Marvin Gaye's daughter for a bit and we never slept together or anything like that. But, you know, I'm more of a, you know, I want to get to know who you truly, truly, truly are. And then you try and take your walk to see where, if there's a, if there's a, yeah, Nona. There's Nona and they respected her because

• 58:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing has, so nothing happened, so.

• 58:48Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm trying to think, have I ever laid in bed with a girl when I was single, watching a movie? Science was, listen, you have, what is the, what was the phrase, Rob, you said earlier? The 1,200 Empty your storehouse? Emptying the storehouse. Wow. So, emptying the storehouse, you were able to control protecting that storehouse in these moments?

• 59:15Speaker 00

  I just knew that it wouldn't turn out the way I wanted it to.

• 59:18Patrick Bet-David?

  How did you know that, though?

• 59:19Speaker 00

  Because you know your prey. You know what they'll taste like. You know what it'll feel like. You know when you have a perfect connection with somebody, you know, that

• 59:28Patrick Bet-David?

  How can you tell that? How can you tell that?

• 59:30Speaker 00

  The pheromones. Your whole body responds to them. It's no longer a hit game. It's, you know, it's, it's a soul game. And if you wait for that, then every interaction you have, like all of these girls, you know, that, like when they started talking about me and domestic violence and I'm like, all the people that know me have to know that that's not who I am, you know? And whether they accepted it or didn't, it didn't matter, but I was like, but the girls that know me out there, when they caught me, said I was a slut or, you know, womanizer and all that, and I'm like No, you're associating me with the characters that they've made me play. And that's been the hardest thing is showing that there's a differentiation.

• 1:00:15Speaker 00

  Just because you make me play a security guard doesn't mean I'm a security guard. You know, I may be a gardener at home. I may be all of these things. Just because I'm a play bank, bank president doesn't mean that I'm, you know, that I'm fiscally or financially mature or any of those things. This is just what I do throughout this day.

• 1:00:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So hard though, on this side. Because on this side, like, we're watching Game of Thrones. And I swear to God, if I see actor Joffrey anywhere, I'm gonna be like, this guy, like, you, you literally watch it, you're like, what a piece of, you know, you watch the mom, you know, you watch some movies.

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, Game of Thrones messed me up. You know, and I think it messed up a lot of the world because it got everybody into incest porn. You know, because people started watching it. And how many people turned off the TV when Jaime and Cersei's hooked up? Or how many people got quiet and watched it? That was the incest that was pushed inside of Game of Thrones and the House of Dragons. You know, it's almost being normalized in a sense. It's, but I bet you incest porn went up from what, from Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. You know, you, it's presented for seven, eight years in front of you. Now it's normal.

• 1:01:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I got a manect the other day and he sends me a manect first. And then I'm like, hey, you know, he says, hey, you gotta talk about porn on Grok. I say, yeah, we'll talk about it. He says, no, I don't think you understand. This is serious. You have to talk about the challenges of porn on Grok. I said, we will. And he keeps mannequin back, and this is like six or seven mannequins later. And then he finally says, listen, let me tell you why you have to talk about it. I'm addicted to it. I don't know how to let it go. I said, what do you mean? He says, Grok porn allows you to pick and choose whatever fantasy you want. And it says it, you can ask for a nineteen year old girl doing this to this person in this position

• 1:02:24Patrick Bet-David?

  and that position and this. And I, I think it's horrible. I'm addicted. I can't let go of it. I don't know what to do. You know, and he's sending me a message like this, right? So, you know, you've, I was in the military. We had a guy in the corner, he was a sergeant. You'd go to his office, he was the most famous sergeant at our unit. You want to know why? He had two thousand cassettes of any porn you wanted. So Friday night, Saturday night, I'm coming back from the gym. All I'm hearing is, huh? You're hearing the sound in the corner. And he's blasting it. So all these eighteen year olds are coming to his room to watch it. And he's thirty-two years old, E5. Let me tell you what I've collected over the years. He was a legend, right? And it's to himself, I have the best stuff back nowadays, right here.

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  He's right there.

• 1:03:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And then think what AI is gonna do on whatever crazy situation you want. What impact does that have when a boy watches it? Or a man watches it?

• 1:03:17Speaker 00

  When I was a kid, in order to see porn, you can get the magazines or you'll be at a wealthy friend's house and they had some videos. But it was a rare opportunity to, to see it. The proliferation of it today, you know, I don't know how you avoid, avoid it. Like for me, I still have to be careful. I try and put my, make sure that my phone, my computer and all of that is inside of the casita and not near my bed if I'm away from my family, you know? Because you still have the desire to go back into watching. And I was, wow, who was I talking to? What is his name, honey?

• 1:03:59Speaker 00

  God, and I love him. I'm having a senior moment. He played Hop. He was the, the voice in Hop.

• 1:04:11Speaker 00

  Yes, the voice and hop.

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  Not, not him, but the actual voice.

• 1:06:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Russell Brand?

• 1:06:49Speaker 00

  Russell Brand. I was talking to Russell Brand and I remember saying to him, you know, yeah, I still watch porn periodically.

• 1:06:56Patrick Bet-David?

  He's saying that or yours?

• 1:06:57Speaker 00

  I said that to him and he was like, what?

• 1:07:01Speaker 00

  He was like, you really should research that. You really should research what's taking place with that. And, and I, when I did the research and considered would I want my child in that position? When I put it back to that, when I put it back to it, then you, you're like, you, you take a start, a moment, you know? If you can catch yourself, but if, once you start going, once you've gotten on that train, you know, it's over. Once you've turned it on, turned on a computer, it's over. So for a man, it's a lot of self-control. So I have to make sure none of this stuff is around. And mind you, I didn't masturbate until I was 25 years old.

• 1:07:45Speaker 00

  Only because my father was so staunch about, about manhood, you know? And it's, and I'm like sitting there thinking, this is a man's hand touching my penis. That, that's homosexual. I'm getting off, if I'm getting off rubbing.

• 1:08:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Your dad told you if you masturbate, it's a man's hand touching?

• 1:08:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's a, and so for me, I didn't masturbate for the first time until I was 25 years old. And I, I wish that I had maintained that.

• 1:08:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Like for a second, you went back to the first time you went there, you?

• 1:08:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was in Czech Republic. I was in Prague.

• 1:08:23Patrick Bet-David?

  You remember it?

• 1:08:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was inside the hotel and. I had watched porn before, but I just would watch it. And this was the first time that I actually went there. And then I had them remove the television out of the room of the hotel. I was shooting Hearts War. Cause I couldn't stop. I couldn't stop. I kept watching it. And I was like, oh, wow. So pushing the easy button, pushing the easy button.

• 1:08:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Czech Republic.

• 1:08:49Speaker 00

  And you get.

• 1:08:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Shout out to Czech.

• 1:08:52Speaker 00

  You get, you get caught into it. So even at 57 years old, I have to be careful and, and to check myself. So that rule number five, respect yourself. Respect yourself, you know? And I sit there and think about, you know, um, would Maximus, you know, be sitting off in a, in a cell doing that, you know, from Gladiator? I'm like, cause I, I loved who he was. And I put that into my head. I try to.

• 1:09:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that really what you would do?

• 1:09:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'd sit there and, and think about.

• 1:09:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Would Maximus masturbate in jail?

• 1:09:28Speaker 00

  Would, would Maximus, would be, would, would the people that I look up to, you know, Socrates? Was Socrates involved in that? And if, if there are, you know, I know that I don't necessarily believe about angels and things of that nature, but I know that there's other dimensional beings. Cause there's other, um, there's other temporal dimensions, you know? Things are moving at a different rate, a different pace. And based upon the individual that came and shared all that knowledge with me about the science. I'm like, okay, are they looking at me like I look at my dog when he's licking himself? You know? Is that who I am? And if I could, would I, would I do what my dog is doing?

• 1:10:13Speaker 00

  You know? So I compare it like that and it helps to pull me back.

• 1:10:17Patrick Bet-David?

  How promiscuous were you at your peak?

• 1:10:20Speaker 00

  Oh, at my peak, I, I was dating about four or five girls. You know, that I would go and hang out with, you know.

• 1:10:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Was it interchanging or same?

• 1:10:30Speaker 00

  Um, it was, I would meet new girls, meet new girls all the time.

• 1:10:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I asked the question because did you ever go on a run where for like a five year period, ten year period? It was just.

• 1:10:40Speaker 00

  I was expla- I explored my dark side. I explored my dark side. I did the Carl June thing. I explored and embraced my shadow, you know, and then you realize you have to get to your lowest point. And that lowest point was sitting there watching porn, you know, and starting to use my gift of gab to talk girls into doing those things.

• 1:11:02Patrick Bet-David?

  At what age did you realize you had that? How early?

• 1:11:05Speaker 00

  Um, well, that didn't start.

• 1:11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Famous or that was?

• 1:11:08Speaker 00

  It was about in, in, in my thirties.

• 1:11:10Patrick Bet-David?

  On your thirties?

• 1:11:11Speaker 00

  In my thirties.

• 1:11:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What was the first time you had a sexual encounter with a girl?

• 1:11:15Speaker 00

  Oh, I was four. That, that was different. I was four. It was the older girls that were watching me. You know, and they were like six and seven and so that changed.

• 1:11:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you say four years old?

• 1:11:29Speaker 00

  Four years old.

• 1:11:29Patrick Bet-David?

  With six and seven year old girls?

• 1:11:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, and we did that every day until I was like thirteen. You know, had more sex then than I've had in my adult life. So my expectation for interaction was always, was those things.

• 1:11:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm still confused. You said four years old?

• 1:11:47Speaker 00

  Four years old.

• 1:11:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And they were six or seven?

• 1:11:48Speaker 00

  Six and seven.

• 1:11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Were they Muslims?

• 1:11:50Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, this is.

• 1:11:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Because I'm thinking your father with.

• 1:11:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, my father wouldn't have known, but when you're not supervised.

• 1:11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And you guys are just fooling around?

• 1:11:58Speaker 00

  We're just fooling. We played, we played um hide and go get, pants up, pants down. That, that was my experience and I'm like, I look at my, my son's eight and nine now. No, nine and ten now, and I can't imagine them getting involved in, in that, you know? But I lost my innocence, you know, it's, it was effectively being molested. But then you have this.

• 1:12:24Patrick Bet-David?

  With that grown girls, six, seven year old girls?

• 1:12:27Speaker 00

  They were seven, they were about two years older than me, me and my brother.

• 1:12:30Patrick Bet-David?

  How long did that last?

• 1:12:31Speaker 00

  Up until we were like thirteen, but all the kids in the neighborhood was doing that.

• 1:12:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, this is a neighborhood thing? You guys are just not playing and you're doing this?

• 1:12:38Speaker 00

  We played hide and go get.

• 1:12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What neighborhood was this?

• 1:12:40Speaker 00

  This is in Cleveland, Cleveland, Ohio. Yeah.

• 1:12:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:12:45Speaker 00

  Thirtieth and Central.

• 1:12:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's watching over you? Are you living with mom and dad's in prison?

• 1:12:49Speaker 00

  My dad's in prison, my mom, well, my dad had just gotten out of prison, but then he goes, then he's at work all the time. You know, and trying to hustle a job because it was hard to get a job after that. And then my mother's in school, so. And I didn't know, I, it felt like it was wrong. But I didn't know.

• 1:13:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Mom never.

• 1:13:07Speaker 00

  That it was wrong. No, no, I wish they did. I wish they did. I wish I had never done that. I would probably have been a completely different person, but it gave me an skewed view of interaction. I kept thinking that, you know, everybody was promiscuous like that. So by the time I get sixteen, seventeen, you know, I've done enough to where I'm starting, now the spiritual side of me is starting to show up. You know, but then I slipped back into it at twenty-five. You know, and for twenty-five to thirty-something, you know, was still trying to be a Jehovah's Witness, but still having this, this urge taking place and, you know, the bad things I'd learned from my uncles and all of that influencing me. And it

• 1:13:52Speaker 00

  takes you a long time to try and get back to who and what you really, really are. But, yeah, that really messed me up. That.

• 1:13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding me? Like two, if, I haven't, I've talked to a lot of different people. No one's ever told me they had more sex between four to thirteen than you're saying any other.

• 1:14:08Speaker 00

  Than I've had in my entire adult life.

• 1:14:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop.

• 1:14:10Speaker 00

  Because there's no, there's no orgasm, you know, until you're about twelve, thirteen.

• 1:14:19Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And when you're saying sex, you're saying intercourse.

• 1:14:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, we had intercourse. Was having intercourse at four.

• 1:14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  How did that mess you up as an, as an adult later on?

• 1:14:29Speaker 00

  Well, because you think about the innocence of a child.

• 1:14:35Speaker 00

  And having to deal with those adult circumstances and situations, you're not mentally prepared for it. So now I'm so super protective of my children, of other people's children. I'm like, I'm, you know, when we have a family, a friend come and visit and they've got an infant, I'll secure the whole house and put pillows everywhere. I'm just overly protective because I wanted somebody, I'm trying to protect me. My kids are never alone. They are never alone without two, at least two people watching them, you know? Just because I don't want what happened to me to ever happen to them.

• 1:15:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What a perspective. So if somebody who is not, probably nothing happened to them. So they think automatically everybody is safe.

• 1:15:21Speaker 00

  Safe.

• 1:15:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But for you, since it happened to you, you're always paranoid of what could happen.

• 1:15:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I, you couldn't, when I was 13, you couldn't trust me with your daughter because I thought the way the interaction was, you know, you, there's, there's this play that we do, you know? I didn't pull myself fully together until I was about maybe 15, about 15. I started seeing the,

• 1:15:47Speaker 00

  I started seeing where I could head to, you know, that, no. Cause there was a girl that I wanted to marry and I, I, I loved her. I loved this girl. And she, this is, she wanted to have sex and I didn't want to have sex. This was like 14, I just started studying the Bible and really coming around to who I was, who I would ultimately become. And she ended up having a train ran on her by my friends, you know? Because I didn't want to have sex with her. I didn't know she was a freak. I didn't know that she was trying to be free like this. So it was.

• 1:16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't know her reputation?

• 1:16:28Speaker 00

  I, no, she didn't have a reputation at the time, but she was ready to explore.

• 1:16:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So she had, the train had happened or had?

• 1:16:35Speaker 00

  No, it happened.

• 1:16:36Patrick Bet-David?

  She's thinking about it.

• 1:16:36Speaker 00

  She, yeah, she, it happened after, because I wouldn't do something with her. So that's what I'm saying, I would have. The ones that I loved, I didn't want to touch. The ones that were special, I didn't want to touch. But I was treating other people's child. Yeah, like, oh, well, she's not somebody I want to marry or anything.

• 1:16:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Did any father ever find out and come and get you and want to be?

• 1:16:57Speaker 00

  I wish they did.

• 1:16:58Patrick Bet-David?

  A brother, nothing?

• 1:16:59Speaker 00

  I wish they did.

• 1:17:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 1:17:00Speaker 00

  No, because they were every.

• 1:17:02Patrick Bet-David?

  What would be the number? Like, how many girls would you say from four to thirteen?

• 1:17:08Speaker 00

  Oh, at least a hundred. At least a hundred.

• 1:17:12Patrick Bet-David?

  From four to thirteen, at least a hundred?

• 1:17:15Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 1:17:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:17:18Speaker 00

  And you don't want, it's not something that you.

• 1:17:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't.

• 1:17:21Speaker 00

  You, you, you, you're sitting there looking at your life like, wow. So that's what made a difference for me when I got older. I didn't want, you know, when I would be next to these people. I, I knew that feeling of taking that walk. A lot of people didn't explore sexuality enough to where they had an opportunity, you know, to sow their wild oats at that earlier age. And, but it's literally, it's how the system, the government has been set up to where the father and the mother are not at home. There's no caretakers taking care of, looking after, you know, the most important part of the family anymore.

• 1:18:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, at that time, when that's going on, would, uh, would you?

• 1:18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I have like fifty questions. Uh, uh, sexually transmitted, did anybody get anything? Did anything and nothing? So none of those things happened? Did you witness older men coming in, taking advantage of younger girls or no?

• 1:18:19Speaker 00

  No, but what I did see, well, there would be some sixteen year olds, you know, messing with younger girls and, but that was all normalized inside of the community. It did not, that was just the transaction. That was how we played. I thought it was normal.

• 1:18:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And you guys called it a game?

• 1:18:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, we, you know, let's play hide and go get.

• 1:18:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're saying that to like three girls are with you? You're saying that or is it you and your buddies and three girls there?

• 1:18:47Speaker 00

  About eight of us hanging out and, you know, it all like hide and go seek, but it was hide and go get. And you would decide pants up or pants down and that's. I would hate for my child to be doing that this day. And it causes you to forget most of your childhood because you don't want to remember.

• 1:19:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Question about it, that's.

• 1:19:05Speaker 00

  You don't want to remember those things, but those are the things that painted me, you know, with my father being sent off to prison, with my mother trying to have the career instead of taking care of us. Because she didn't get the career that she wanted.

• 1:19:21Patrick Bet-David?

  What did she want to do?

• 1:19:22Speaker 00

  She was, yeah, she ended up graduating from college and all that, but she wanted to be an actress. She wanted to be a journalist. She wanted to be all of that stuff. That didn't happen for her. And she lost being able to protect her sons. You know, because now all my brothers are Jehovah's Witnesses. They've made different choices in their life. But I know that those thoughts still go through their head of the choices that we made when we were younger. You know, and you're just a little more overprotective, a lot more overprotective, you know, about who you are. And I look forward to the next lifetime of not remembering it anymore.

• 1:19:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you guys ever run into each other? Did you ever run into any of the girls?

• 1:20:02Speaker 00

  No, I haven't been.

• 1:20:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Never. You've never been back to?

• 1:20:05Speaker 00

  I've gone there, but I've gone to.

• 1:20:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Not to both.

• 1:20:08Speaker 00

  Not walking through.

• 1:20:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I can only imagine. Like, you ever seen the movie The Judge with Robert Downey Jr., Robert Duvall? You know how he goes back to the town he grew up in and he never wanted to go back? And he runs into the girl, his ex, at the bar and he left. When you go back, you don't see any of these old friends.

• 1:20:23Speaker 00

  No. And that's why I was explaining to my daughters that if I bumped into girls that I had interaction with, I wouldn't even know their face or name.

• 1:20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That's pretty wild.

• 1:20:33Speaker 00

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• 1:20:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So your mom inspired you to get into the movie business?

• 1:20:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And how did that happen?

• 1:20:54Speaker 00

  Because she wanted to be an actress and I thought if I became an actor, I would get her affection. I would, because she doted over my younger brother Antonio and wanted him to be an actor. So I thought if I became an actor, she would, you know, I would. Get that love from her.

• 1:21:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What did Antonio end up doing?

• 1:21:10Speaker 00

  Um, he's a contractor now.

• 1:21:12Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a contractor?

• 1:21:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, it's practicing witness.

• 1:21:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Practicing witness?

• 1:21:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's

• 1:21:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for him.

• 1:21:17Speaker 00

  He's, he's maintained.

• 1:21:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Good relationship, you guys?

• 1:21:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, we have a great relationship, but um.

• 1:21:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Are eleven of you guys all close?

• 1:21:25Speaker 00

  Um, most of us are.

• 1:21:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Great.

• 1:21:27Speaker 00

  We, we, we, there's a lot of communication, but then the younger ones are kinda getting their own thing out there. I don't have as much in common with my brothers anymore because I'm not a witness. And they're still trying to, you know, proselytize in a way. And I'm trying to open their eyes to,

• 1:21:49Speaker 00

  let's look at some of the statistics, some of the facts, you know, from the scriptures. If every word is supposed to be the word of God, if you find one mistake in there, then you've got to throw the entire thing out. You have, the entire thing becomes questionable. And I, like I said, I'm not questioning the divinity of God, but I do question how we've been taught in our belief systems. I think our belief systems, it's time to, to raise them and take the allegories that we can, but we need to start basing things on actual fact.

• 1:22:21Patrick Bet-David?

  So, uh, you, you going into Hollywood, at what age did you get the first job? How did you get into it?

• 1:22:27Speaker 00

  Um, first job I got was on The Cosby Show. Um, I went to Barry Moss's casting agency because my brother Antonio was invited to come in there and then he couldn't go because he was in Cleveland. I was in New York at the time and I went in there and I got the job on The Cosby Show.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that it, Ron?

• 1:22:45Speaker 00

  No, that's living single. Living single. They, they cut me out of the show.

• 1:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, they cut you out of the show? Did they really? Like, there's no scenes of you in it?

• 1:22:54Speaker 00

  They cut me out of the show because I was just a friend of Theo. I was playing ping pong and all of that and I was so hurt by it. And I called my great grandmother, Minnie Gentry, who was an actress who had been on The Cosby Show. And I asked her, I said, I feel like I need to go talk to Cosby, because Cosby had told me that he liked us together. And I hadn't talked to Barry Moss in three weeks, or whatever. And so I went up to Cosby's room, went to Kaufman Astoria Queens, Kaufman Astoria Studios, and had made friends with everybody inside of the lobby, you know. So they let me in, thinking I was coming in. And I waited outside of Cosby's door. And I said to him, when he showed up, he was like, hey, what are you doing?

• 1:23:38Speaker 00

  And I was like, I'd just love to talk to you for a minute. And he invited me into his room. And he said, so what's on your mind? I said, I watched the show last night. And he was like, good, good, good. He said, I said, but they cut me out of it.

• 1:23:54Speaker 00

  And I was like, yeah, it happens. Yeah, it happens. I was like, but nobody told me that it was gonna happen. He was like, you didn't, you know, your agent should have told you. I was like, oh, I don't have an agent. He's like, oh, okay. I was like, but, well, you said that you liked us together, and you were gonna have me back. I haven't heard anything from anybody. And he took a minute and looked at me.

• 1:24:16Speaker 00

  And he was like, well, you know, it could happen, you know, but it also can't happen. And I'm like, well, you know, what I did is I told everybody at my school that I was gonna be on the show. I was in college at Pratt Institute. And I had them come and watch the show. And then I wasn't there, and I was embarrassed. And he said, well, he said, well, in this business, you learn you don't tell somebody you're in something. You let somebody call you and tell you they're, tell you they saw you. And then he said to me, he said, he said, but that's just how this business is. And I said, well, you know what? I'm a man just like you. Here's this nineteen-year-old boy that takes another moment at Disneyland. I said, I'm a man just like you.

• 1:25:01Speaker 00

  I eat this and I crap. But the way you're talking to me feels like I'm an insignificant worm, you know. You said that. Yeah, I said. And how old are you then? I'm nineteen. I'm nineteen. And I never told anybody about this conversation. And he was, I said, but if this is how the business is, I don't think I want to be a part of it. And he said, if that's a choice you gotta make. Well, I leave there. And Barry Moss will never take my call again. And then maybe seven years later, I bump into Malcolm Jamal Warner on a set and he's like, he was like, yo, I heard about you having a conversation with Bill Cosby and I was completely in the wrong. I didn't get disrespectful with him, but I was in the wrong because I should've, I needed to have an agent. I didn't need to come.

• 1:25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're taking responsibility?

• 1:25:48Speaker 00

  Oh, I did that. I did that. I did. There's so, but Cosby, you know, years later, he called me and because the rumor got out there, you know, thinking that I had been blackballed because of Cosby. And he said, I really would love for you to go on the radio and tell them that I didn't do this. And I was like, I don't know if you did or didn't, but you weren't in the wrong that time, you know? Same thing happened with me and Joe Silver. I get, I'm doing The Brave One and we're at the Venice Film Festival and some reporter out of nowhere gaslights me. And he says to me, he says, he's like, why isn't your name above the titles with Jodie? And I'm sitting there thinking, yeah,

• 1:26:32Speaker 00

  why isn't my name above the titles with Jodie? So I started making calls as if that was my right. And it wasn't. And then Joe Silver came and had a conversation with me. He's like, the reason your name isn't above the titles is because you're not the star of this thing. It's Jodie. And if you win, if you get nominated for an Oscar, it's going to be for supporting actor. It's not going to be for best actor. And I was like, okay, thank you for telling me that. Now I understand. But you have to remember, I'm a man just like you. And if you ever talk to me in that way again, I'm gonna knock your teeth out your mouth.

• 1:27:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You said that.

• 1:27:06Speaker 00

  This is what I said. And then I have to fly back on a private flight with him.

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  And Susan Downey is his producing partner on that. And then, maybe eight months later, I lose Iron Man. And I'm sure that all of those things played their part, but I got gaslit. He did the right thing in coming and talking to me. But I responded in this aggressive manner instead of being cool about and understanding that, you know, you get what's supposed to come.

• 1:30:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a tough thing to admit to though.

• 1:30:03Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 1:30:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You're in a business where it's image, so you're to take. Yours, so how could you have done it differently?

• 1:30:10Speaker 00

  I would have, I would have just let it pass with him asking, you know, shouldn't you be above the titles? Well, if I should be above the titles, I would be. You know, you are where you're supposed to be. Now I understand that. Shouldn't you be with that girl right there? Yeah, if that was my girl, should I wither in despair because a woman be so fair? Is she fair to me? A girl may seem as fine as can be, the most beautiful thing you ever did see, but if she ain't mine, what the F I care how fair she be? That position above the title wasn't mine.

• 1:30:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm.

• 1:30:41Speaker 00

  I didn't need it.

• 1:30:43Patrick Bet-David?

  How important is it in Hollywood? On the, how, how often do actors say, wait a minute, why am I number two? I was number, how, is it, is it a very important?

• 1:30:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, it shows, it's, it's, it's still the classes. You know, I'm above this, I'm below this, you know, I'm. And I, right now, I don't care where I'm at on the call list. I just want to perform the best that I possibly can. I've grown up now, but the mistakes I made back then, oh my god. I'm the one that put myself in the doghouse. Other people didn't do, there was a game, there's a way, there's procedures to the game. If you don't follow the procedures, you get out of it. And I did not know how to control my anger at the time. I didn't know how to control my mouth. You know, I kept getting in my own way when we were doing this movie Boycott.

• 1:31:35Speaker 00

  And Jeffrey Wright is sitting there, we're playing chess with each other. Right before he's got to go in and I've got my my pawns, three pawns set up here, but I haven't been able to castle. I'm trying to castle, but I can't get get around there. And I've got a bishop that's still blocking my my blocking me from being able to castle. And he dropped his rook down and, you know, checkmated me. And he said, right there is your biggest problem. You won't get out of your own way.

• 1:32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm.

• 1:32:09Speaker 00

  He said, the cameraman was watching you and he's seeing you from this angle and he looks good like this and he could do this, that and the other. But he said, but you won't do it because you won't get out of your own way. And getting out of my way then was I had a gold ring that I was determined to keep on. And I was like, I always wear this. And it's not the character. I was like, but I always wear this and da, da, da, da, da. And I was in my own way about something that was unimportant. I had forgotten, you know, and you grow up and you listen. When I had a meeting with Denzel once and he told me it was like, look at your hands, man. You're always like this. Your fists are all balled

• 1:32:53Speaker 00

  up. He said, and all these producers want to do is they're trying to open your hand and so they can put money in it. But you won't do it. You keep your hands all tight like this and you're blowing it. And this is 20 years ago.

• 1:33:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Holy moly. What kind of advice. So 20 years ago, were you at your, were you come, 20 years ago would be what? 19? No? 2006 or 20 years ago?

• 1:33:21Speaker 00

  It was right before, it was maybe about 20, 28, 20. It was right before I did Hustle and Flow. It was right before, because I ended up going back into the chitlin circuit. I was no longer being supported by the studios again, you know, because I was so.

• 1:33:38Patrick Bet-David?

  How many times has this happened? How many times?

• 1:33:39Speaker 00

  At least eight times. I've had a number of opportunities and, you know, but my aggression, you know, my need to be a man, you don't, you ain't gonna talk to me like that. You know, instead of learning how to diffuse and to walk away and to smile, okay, this isn't your day, or this isn't my road right now.

• 1:34:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Who plays a role in, in, in a, in an actor that obviously is very talented, obviously is an A, Lister, obviously it's a guy that can get up there and make the few hundred million? Who typically plays the role of saying, hey, listen, let's pump the brakes? Who's having a tough time? Was your manager somebody that knew how to manage your toughness?

• 1:34:23Speaker 00

  Well, the people that were trying to manage me at the time were Benny Medina and people of that nature. And it's like they have a different agenda, you know, they, they're walking a different walk. And I wasn't down for that and I wasn't, I didn't have the ears to listen at the time. I just wasn't there yet. They could have, my parents talked to me, but I'd been beat up so much as a little kid because I was light-skinned with green eyes in a black neighborhood. You know, and they used to slap me and say, watch him turn red. And I had to learn how to fight at thirteen, fourteen. And once I learned how to fight, now I'm gonna make everybody pay for what's happened to me. And that's what I realized I was doing.

• 1:35:05Speaker 00

  I'm just battling, I'm, I'm battling shadows from the past. You ain't gonna punk me, you know? And it's like I was punking myself.

• 1:35:17Speaker 00

  So that's the hardest thing to get out of your own way to recognize, oh, wow, this ain't even about me.

• 1:35:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you enjoy doing Iron Man?

• 1:35:25Speaker 00

  Oh, I loved it. I loved it. I loved watching Robert. I loved, I had never seen somebody on a set the way that Robert owned that character. He, he, he threw it away. Cut it in half, throw it away. Cut it in half, throw it away. He wasn't trying to be Iron Man. He was Tony Stark. So I enjoyed watching him. I enjoyed watching Jeff Bridges. I, man.

• 1:35:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Jeff Bridges, wow.

• 1:35:55Speaker 00

  You know, we'd sit up and play guitar together and talked and, you know, I'd, I'd been a huge fan of theirs. But I noticed something about both of them. They had learned to rest within themselves, sit at their seat of consciousness, especially Jeff. You know, Jeff, he's, he's like Alan Watts. He's just so, so, so full of inspiration and calmness.

• 1:36:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Jeff was in Crazy Heart, right? Did he do Crazy Heart?

• 1:36:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, and.

• 1:36:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and, and the, the one, and I think in Crazy Heart, Colin Farrell sings the song. Uh, uh, can you verify that, Rob? Can you type in, uh, um, Jeff Bridges and Colin Farrell? Crazy Heart.

• 1:36:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's it. Yeah, it's a great movie. It's a, he falls in love with a young twenty year old girl or something. She's trying to put him kind of a, calm him down. He's another phenomenal actor. So when, when you, when you did Iron Man with Robert, was that, was that Robert's comeback?

• 1:37:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:37:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he, that's when it was like his second chance to come up?

• 1:37:04Speaker 00

  That was his chance. That was his redemption. And he earned it. He did.

• 1:37:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Incredible story.

• 1:37:10Speaker 00

  He did what he needed to do, you know, and I'm, I can't be angry at him for the other choices. It'd be like being angry at, at Don Cheadle for accepting the role when he only had an hour to do it. He wasn't gonna call me and say, hey, you're not doing this anymore. That's not what happens. You know, it's just, there's a lot of things that I took personally that if you live, like I'm trying to live by the four agreements, you know? Be impeccable with your word. Don't assume anything. Don't take anything personal. What's the fourth one, honey?

• 1:37:46Speaker 00

  And always do your best. So I'm trying to really apply those in my daily life, you know? And I, I pretty much, I keep to it. I really try and stick to my word, but that's the thing that I break more than anything with myself, which stops me from being like God is because I'm not keeping my word. I'm setting things, the bar too high for myself.

• 1:38:09Patrick Bet-David?

  How, how much of making it in the game of Hollywood is the talent? Is the business? Is the humility? Is the networking? Is who represents you? You know, I talked to, I don't know if it was Scottie Pippen or whoever I was talking, I said, what's more important? A superstar? If we want to build a championship team, is a superstar the most important? A strong coach? Owners, GM, rank them, put them in order. And he was kind of going through it. What, what is, what does it take for somebody to make it and stay up there for 10, 20 years?

• 1:38:46Speaker 00

  First, you have to have thick skin. You can't take things personally. You've got to be able to walk away, you know, from your own emotions or your own feelings about something. You, you cannot take anything personal because they're just trying to make the production. And then the truth is, all you are is a piece of talent. So then the humility comes in there and you recognize your position in this. Like I was doing a film with Shia LaBeouf and Robert Redford. And

• 1:39:22Patrick Bet-David?

  This is recently?

• 1:39:23Speaker 00

  This is about seven years ago. And, and Shia, I remember him running to hit his mark. And after they yell cut, he would go right back to number one and wait there quietly. That hum, now this is him after, you know, all of his success. But he always went back to number one so that the AD can get everything organized. I learned to do that, to go back to your place. So the humility.

• 1:39:58Speaker 00

  The not taking anything personal, but you have to have the talent. You have to have life experiences so you can tell those stories. If you don't have those, then it's just gonna be a dull mirror that you will never see the proper reflection to. And then the final thing, if it's four things, the belief in self. Cause you can have the talent, you can have the opportunity, you can have the humility, you can have the understanding, but if you don't believe in yourself, it's gonna be clearly seen on the, on the, on the screen.

• 1:40:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Shia LaBeouf also, he, he also had a complicated upbringing with his father as well. Didn't he do a movie that they put it on Amazon and? Sunny Boy, I think. What was it called? Not Sunny Boy, it's something else. It's Honey Boy, Honey Boy. Honey Boy, I think is, can you type, I'm gonna say correctly, is it Honey Boy? Uh, yeah, it's Honey Boy. And, you know, there's a clip of him putting the video in front of his dad. I think he was saying this to Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon, one of the two. And he said, I just wanna watch my dad's reaction. He just recently had some issues that came up in the, in, in the news.

• 1:41:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:15Patrick Bet-David?

  He, he got into a fight, I don't know what happened with him. Another one of those guys.

• 1:41:20Speaker 00

  Feel anger. We all come in here for a reason and we've got something to deal with and it's like it keeps popping up.

• 1:41:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that, but is it almost like, you know, in comedy?

• 1:41:29Speaker 00

  T S D.

• 1:41:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It is, is, are you almost, do you benefit in a weirdest way, a weird, tough challenge and upbringing for you to be able to tap into those emotional cameras on?

• 1:41:41Speaker 00

  You need it, but we're all damaged goods, every single one of us.

• 1:41:45Patrick Bet-David?

  In, in your.

• 1:41:45Speaker 00

  Every, every, or you can be a trained actor and they don't have life experiences.

• 1:41:52Speaker 00

  But you resonate when you can see, oh, wait a minute. This is touching on something real.

• 1:41:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Are there any great like goat actors that didn't have a tough, they're just trained actors that didn't have a lot to tap into?

• 1:42:05Speaker 00

  I don't know. They all say they're just trained and not relying on personal experiences.

• 1:42:09Patrick Bet-David?

  They say that?

• 1:42:10Speaker 00

  They say that. Most of them don't, they don't tell you what they've gone through. But the reality is, I can only draw upon the things that I know. The things that I can go and look into somebody else's life or somebody else's path. But I have to have experienced it enough to where I can now associate myself with it and then tell it honestly. And you have to have gone through the darkness to know what it's like to be afraid of the dark. You can't, if you've all lived a prissy life, you don't understand. You know, well, you may understand drug addiction. Because a lot of people in privilege end up in that place. But if you've never seen somebody doing coke, you don't know how to do that.

• 1:42:55Speaker 00

  You don't, you don't even know, you even like etiquette. There's, there's, there's Hollywood etiquette. We don't know. You don't know coming into it that if somebody offers you a cigarette, you know, you probably more should like, more than likely should go out and have a cigarette with them, even if you don't smoke. It's just in when in Rome, do what the Romans are doing. If they offer you a joint, you sit there and have a joint with them. I didn't know that that was a reality. That, you know, that allows people to come into the teepee. Let's do these things together. And if it's outside of your warehouse, then you, you say it's outside of your warehouse. But because I didn't do coke, I didn't do all of those things. And when somebody would, would pull it out, I would take a, you know, take a little step back with it.

• 1:43:40Speaker 00

  I didn't realize that that was making me take a step back from them. And a lot of people in this business.

• 1:43:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Took it that way.

• 1:43:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, they, they, they're like, oh, you know, you can't trust him.

• 1:43:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm thinking. When you were telling me like you never, you know, you never uh, uh, had any sexual encounters with actresses in the space. They're probably gonna talk to each other. He's a little weird. He's a little this. Would that kind of happen? Would you be an outsider or would you?

• 1:44:03Speaker 00

  I was always.

• 1:44:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you ever see yourself as an outsider?

• 1:44:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:44:06Speaker 00

  I was always weird.

• 1:44:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Did they think you're an outsider?

• 1:44:08Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:44:09Patrick Bet-David?

  The industry looked at you as an outsider?

• 1:44:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, because I didn't participate with all of the stuff that they were doing. Even Jamie Foxx, he took me to, we had, um, we're hanging out and these two girls come over. Jamie's in a room with one of them. I'm in the room with another one. And I'm sitting there for three hours playing the guitar for her.

• 1:44:30Speaker 00

  So Jamie tells these jokes.

• 1:44:35Speaker 00

  That I'm over here bringing guitars.

• 1:44:38Patrick Bet-David?

  He's been done for two and a half hours.

• 1:44:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like there's something.

• 1:44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you doing?

• 1:44:42Speaker 00

  But I'm over there, because I did all that growing up. I did that, you know, when I was young.

• 1:44:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that a known thing from four to 13? Like, do they know that? Or what happened to you? Does Hollywood know what happened to you?

• 1:44:54Speaker 00

  No, this is the first time I've ever said it.

• 1:44:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You've never talked about it?

• 1:44:57Speaker 00

  I'm probably gonna get an earful from my wife when I leave here about it, you know? It's, it's... But the reason that I bring it up, because you brought it up, is we have to start protecting our children better. You know, like, we can't even let our child have our phone anymore, because he looks up Nick and Judy from Zootopia, but he wants to see Nick and Judy naked. And he thinks that if he looks it up, it just... Because in Zootopia, they go into this little area, and it's, it's... Everybody is just free and not wearing any clothes.

• 1:45:34Patrick Bet-David?

  This is really in the cartoon?

• 1:45:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, in the cartoon. It's like, um...

• 1:45:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this a porn cartoon?

• 1:45:39Speaker 00

  No, no, it's not a porn cartoon, but it's like you're doing, you're at a, you're, uh, nudist. It's like, inside of the cartoon, there's this nudist colony in there. And it's just animals being natural without any clothes on them.

• 1:45:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Is there really a nudist colony in this cartoon?

• 1:45:57Speaker 00

  In the first one. There was this little nudist colony where, yeah, where they're at. So my son goes and looks up Nick and Judy naked, but on the phone, that comes off as pornography.

• 1:46:12Speaker 00

  And we're like, he's so upset that we won't let him have our phones anymore, because anything can pop up. Anything can pop up. And I just want them to stay innocent. Just long enough so that they can get their balance. I don't want them to have so many regrets that I have in my life.

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• 1:49:03Patrick Bet-David?

  What a, what a, to, to, you know, there's a pro and a con for having a father. You don't choose your parents, right? God chooses your parents for you. It's just, you know, science. You don't, I wish he was my dad. I wish he was my mom and vice versa. You know, he chooses the kids for us to parent and then vice versa. And then, but there's pro and con for them, right? Of growing up, like, just like for us, you're growing up with your father and your mother. And for me, I grew up in my own setting and how you manage that, how you maneuver with that.

• 1:49:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think for you, like, last time when you and I spoke, I think we were in Arkansas at the same time.

• 1:49:41Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:49:42Patrick Bet-David?

  This was nine months ago, eight months ago.

• 1:49:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was doing Turnbuckle, a film, Turnbuckle. Not even nine months ago, it was maybe November or October.

• 1:49:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You're right, it was probably, you're right, it was probably November when we spoke. And are you, are you still getting the knock of bigger projects coming your way?

• 1:49:58Speaker 00

  Oh, no. After I sued Fox and Disney, you're going to the blacklist.

• 1:50:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Permanent.

• 1:50:04Speaker 00

  You, until there's a new change of everybody inside of there. So you're, you're no longer on their main list of calling because you've broken the cardinal rule, which is you never talk, you know? Even if you're being screwed over, you never talk. You know, you're supposed to keep that quiet and, and keep working as a good slave. And I didn't do that. I thought about, you know, some injustices that I felt was happening with me. And you realize that the entire system is rigged because they carry so much power. And if you, and everybody, either you work for Disney or you want to work for Disney in this business.

• 1:50:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Why?

• 1:50:49Speaker 00

  Because Disney.

• 1:50:51Patrick Bet-David?

  They own all the big, uh, grand Star Wars and everything.

• 1:50:55Speaker 00

  Yep. So how are you gonna hire somebody that Disney is angry at as a producer?

• 1:51:01Speaker 00

  And so you still stay within the independent realm and you're building that stuff.

• 1:51:06Patrick Bet-David?

  To Bob Iger or is it like a Kennedy type of?

• 1:51:08Speaker 00

  It goes all the way up to Dana Walden to all of them. It's, you know, they have their list and you wanna be on the good side of it. But then you wanna have your integrity at the same time. You know, you don't want to just roll over. You want everything to be balanced as much as possible. So the big studios, there's still people that will call and look for me. You know, but now I'm at the point where, you know, I'm writing my books. I'm more so trying to connect with people. I don't wanna play a character, even though if something great comes around, I'm there for it in a sense. But I really want to connect with who Terry is right now, you know, and, and, and do some healing,

• 1:51:52Speaker 00

  some inner healing that I wasn't getting with all the other stuff.

• 1:51:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you, if you never get any big job, are you, are you completely resolved with that?

• 1:52:01Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, I've done my best. I've done, I've murdered it on the screen.

• 1:52:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree.

• 1:52:07Speaker 00

  I've, so it's like, do you wanna do an impersonation of yourself the rest of your life? If I've done, I've done that character before, I don't need to do that anymore. Right now, it's, it's a greater message of, okay, let us start reasoning again. You know, like did the entire thing with science and all of that. And you come with all the stuff you're supposed to come with. You come with the white papers. You come with the patents. You come with prototypes. You come with, you know, new geometry and to have it obfuscated and ignored. Like since we talked on the last show, you don't hear any talks about science anymore. It's all quiet out there.

• 1:52:48Speaker 00

  They've, they've, somebody went in there and they were like, okay, let's silence this conversation. But you can't show me any point where I was debunked on anything.

• 1:52:59Speaker 00

  Everything that I've said, they they just chose to try and ignore it as much as they can. So my goal is still these life saving.

• 1:53:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you ever sit down with Brian Keating or no, did you guys?

• 1:53:10Speaker 00

  No, Brian, you know, they all get away. And then if I call Eric Weinstein, he does the same thing. Oh, hey, Terrence, how you doing? But it's like, let's not engage.

• 1:53:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:53:21Speaker 00

  Let's not engage. Me and Dr. Yu, we still talk and move.

• 1:53:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 1:53:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're still, I ended up doing the Tesla Tech Conference and.

• 1:53:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you link up with the Space Force Commander or did you guys?

• 1:53:35Speaker 00

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:53:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I'm talking.

• 1:53:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, but no, no, no, this is this is Tesla Tech, the actual Tesla guy, not not Elon Musk or anything like that, not associated with that. But it introduced the the understanding that our universe must be finite in order for us to have conservation of energy laws, which completely destroys all of their foundations because most of their constants are based on the assumption of infinity, of an infinite space. But in an infinite domain, to se- to spread minute amount or conserved amount of energy across an infinite domain, you break conservation of energy laws. The universe has to be bounded in order to have recursion or to have the echo.

• 1:54:22Speaker 00

  It's got to hit a wall in order for it to come back. The expanding waves hit the edge of our universe and the returning waves hit newly expanding waves and that's when you get your first geometry. So being able to prove that led to the next steps of, okay, here's the collapse of the constants now. Let's take apart Planck, let's take apart the fine structure constant, let's take apart all of these things that they're holding everything up with. So. I'm still in the process of moving that and that's still the most important thing in my life because there's life-saving things associated with it. And especially when you look upon where the world is right now.

• 1:55:04Speaker 00

  I mean, how do you feel about everything that's happening with Iran right now? You know, giving your roots from it. I'm so happy that China came in and said, hey, you guys aren't going to bully them completely like you've been doing before. And as a result, what does Saudi Arabia do? Now Saudi Arabia is no longer selling any, using US dollars, you know, for their petrol. The US dollar is done now. We've just lost in the 12 months, we've lost 9% of our purchasing power. So if you had $100,000 last year, it's only, you only have $91,000 now and it's steadily declining.

• 1:55:45Speaker 00

  25 countries have jumped onto the bricks, apart from those other five countries. You know, we've got 39% of our world of the finances now no longer being dependent. Only 51% of the world is still using US dollars. And as the dollar crashes, because Trump has a plan, and his plan is if you weaken the dollar, then you can bring manufacturing jobs back over here. But that doesn't work with the tariffs that are being hit outside the world, you know? Canada, we've just put, imposed a thing on Canada to where they're not able to use the chip system anymore. They're not able to use US dollars anymore.

• 1:56:29Speaker 00

  So what did China, what did Canada do? What did Carney do? He sat up and said, okay, I'm gonna go and work with Beijing, but on top of it, I'm going to ask for the war chest from NATO. I want $12 billion because I've got to deal with an aggressive America. And then on top of it, Canada said, you know what? We're going to do these, the 12 states that we give electricity to, every tariff you put on us, we're gonna put on the electricity that we were sending down to them. And on top of it, we're not gonna give you any of our minerals anymore. You know, we're, we're in a, a tight little bottleneck that something has to go in our US dollar,

• 1:57:12Speaker 00

  the COMEX, I don't know if you follow silver, what's happening with silver.

• 1:57:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Rocketed gold, record-breaking numbers.

• 1:57:19Speaker 00

  All of that, and silver's been suppressed.

• 1:57:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:57:21Speaker 00

  You know, artificially suppressed for the last, for the last fifty years. You know, JP Morgan just had to pay nine hundred and twenty million dollars in fines for the suppression of the silver market because of the paper contracts. And now we have a different pricing for paper contracts of silver for futures here in comparison to actual silver in Shanghai. You know, there's this arbit, there used to be an arbitrage, you buy silver here, you know, for, for whatever amount, even if it's seventy-one dollars here, and then you go over to China and you sell it, you know, for the eighty-eight dollars that it's, that would have marked over there, and well, now, that arbitrage, they're not playing with that anymore because there's no silver in the COMEX.

• 1:58:07Speaker 00

  And we use over one point two million ounces of silver in all of our electronics, and, and we use twenty, you know, twenty grams of it in, in solar panels, fifty grams of it in every electric vehicle, in every computer component, and there's only eight hundred and fifty-one million ounces being produced a year. And most of our silver is coming from byproducts, from gold mines, from lead, from zinc, from copper mines. We only get about twenty percent of our silver from actual silver mines. And China is hoarding it. And out of nowhere, JP Morgan, who has been fighting against silver all this time, now they got seven hundred and fifty million ounces of silver.

• 1:58:52Speaker 00

  And it's necessary for all of our electronics. So silver has a potential now to go up to being worth thousands of dollars. It will become more even with, with gold. I think it's like one to thirty to one now, or sometimes it's at fifty to one now, it's gonna get up to about thirteen to one, so, and typically when. When the precious metals go up, you know, the stocks are going down. But for a minute, they had the stocks and the precious metals going up at the same time.

• 1:59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think gold was suppressed for a while because the typical triggers of printing money, all that money we printed during COVID didn't cause gold to move as much. So gold eventually caught up. Uh, I think it, it's needed to be at 5,000 for a while. I think the, the 5,000 was inevitable. Now the question is, how much higher can it go?

• 1:59:44Speaker 00

  The more the US dollar weakens, the, because the US bonds, China just sold 864 million, um, 864 billion dollars of its US debt. Japan is selling its US debt. Nobody's buying the bond, so the yield rate is going to change. And our, and, and precious metals is the only thing you can trust now. So silver.

• 2:00:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your position with Bitcoin? Where are you at with?

• 2:00:10Speaker 00

  Um, Bitcoin is going to die. I don't, I don't mess with it.

• 2:00:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Bitcoin is gonna, you, you touching nothing with crypto?

• 2:00:16Speaker 00

  I don't touch it.

• 2:00:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me why you think it's gonna?

• 2:00:18Speaker 00

  Well, I just got a call from somebody, um, a couple of days ago and said, hey, if you got 25 million, you know, you can make 75,000. I just want to put it inside of an account to do some stuff. And this is a friend of mine. And I was like, do you realize that, that Bitcoin is still based on fiat? It's still be, and, and because the dollar is decreasing in its value, because the uncertainty of war around. Nobody wants their money in something that can be wiped out with a, with a push of a button somewhere. I've, I've just stayed, I've, I've stayed free and clear of it because it's been dropping a great deal. I think it's at $61,000 now.

• 2:01:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but, but it went from 18 to 40 to 60 to 125. And it typically goes through the process. If you do a five year, if you go to a five, and by the way, I have less than 1% of my portfolio in Bitcoin. So it's not like I'm a pro Bitcoin guy that's saying this to you. Go to Max, Rob. Go to Max if you look at it. If you look at what the second one looks like as the first one, do you see that?

• 2:01:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:22Patrick Bet-David?

  It looks like a twin.

• 2:01:23Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So that means we got, you know, we may be either at the bottom or it could go a little bit lower. But again, patterns change, but we'll see what happened with that. What, what concerns you the most? You were saying all these things. My, my, uh, um, my challenge is if all these years, these presidents.

• 2:01:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Did everything to strengthen China.

• 2:01:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Nixon opened it up and China went from being nobody to they were worried because Soviet Union was too powerful and they could catch up so they gave power to China. They opened it up because they wanted China to beat Russia. Well, then China didn't just beat Russia passed up and became number two and now could potentially compete with us, right? So the number one creator of commerce for these countries has been us. Why? America's been sold by a lot of presidents to other countries. So finally you got a guy that comes in that's like, yeah, I don't know if I like these deals. All these deals favor more the other countries than us. But to be able to put the deals in place is a very hard thing to do and to be able to pull off. He's trying to do it all of it at the same time. There's a 90% chance it's not gonna work.

• 2:02:31Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:02:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But the 10% if it does, it protects you and Americans long term. Do you believe that way or no?

• 2:02:38Speaker 00

  Well, his ideals and approach would have worked 40 years ago when you had the dollar dependency that every other country, you know, if you wanted to trade something, you had to have US dollars. So it kept our economy stable and strong. We could print as much money as we wanted to because we can always borrow money at very low rates because everybody wanted to do business with us. But now that the US dollar has lost, it's no longer being, it's no longer, it's turning into the sterling pound. For 100 years, that was the money thing, but now

• 2:03:19Speaker 00

  they, now we can't push the things or use the force that we were using 40, 50 years ago because the dollar is no longer necessary in the world. So we have to take a more diplomatic approach to doing things. I appreciated the strength by which he came out and was like, hey NATO, you gotta pay your fair share. Hey, Canada, you've been taking advantage of us for years. You know, with these trade agreements, China, you know, you're doing the same thing. But we don't have the staying power.

• 2:03:53Speaker 00

  That we had before you got it's a global economy now. So when a major portion of that global economy is being blocked up with trade embargoes and tariffs and all of that. When everybody is talking now China is like, okay, great. Great. Keep playing your game. Keep playing your game. I'm gonna keep the Belt and Initiative going out there. I'm going to keep giving to these countries that you're turning your back on. I'm going to keep giving to them. You know, I'm going to and not ask them to change their their constitution. I'm not going to force them into anything. I'm going to keep things as good as possible with them. China's doing the smart move.

• 2:04:34Speaker 00

  Because now all of these countries is turning on the US and turning to China. Hey, China, you support us now. Even Greenland, you know, wants to have talks with China. So we have to change our tactics and get back to making friends and being partners on the world stage. And instead of isolation, because the isolation, I love to strengthen him. But we, you know, there's a time for finesse and there's a time for brute force. And we just, what happened in the Straits of Hormuz? Is that right?

• 2:05:11Speaker 00

  You know, here we're about to pounce on Iran because of Israel not wanting to maintain our power there. But what happens? Well, now China sends its little boat, its ships in there. Russia sends their ships in there and there's a standoff. What do you think is gonna end up happening? The US knows that we cannot strike Iran without those ships, all of them being wiped out and starting this world war.

• 2:05:45Speaker 00

  There's gonna have to be a de-escalation of that. Because Iran is no longer just an isolated country without any, without anyone helping it. You know, now it has the support of our two biggest rivals. And it has the support of everyone that, an enemy of my friend, an enemy of my enemy is my friend. So they're all turning to Russia, like Burkina Faso turned to Russia, you know, to ask for its help. Because why? The colonialists are still trying to move the stuff that they were doing before against Ibrahim Traore. President Traore, who was trying to unify Africa and saying, you know what?

• 2:06:27Speaker 00

  You're not gonna take my gold and process it in Canada. And then take it over and put it in the vaults in France. No, this is the gold that belongs to my people. And they're gonna make a stand for their position and their goal. So what does Russia do? Since the US is supporting France in this move, Russia goes and makes alliances with President Ibrahim Traore. Now, now that the war has just started and pushed off, I look forward to seeing how Russia follows through with supporting that. But I'm like, the African nations are all supposed to gather together. But we are so used to being colonialized, you know, of looking down at the ground and,

• 2:07:10Speaker 00

  okay, here comes the Europeans, we've got a... It's like, no, they're taking it, they've been taking advantage of Africa. Because in order for the rest of the world to remain fluid, they need to be able to buy cheap and raw materials from Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa has to maintain and have to be impoverished. And then they use all of their things of, we're gonna give you some money. But that money is only to keep them in that impoverished state and keep regimes in place that's going to allow the continent to continue to be raped. But if any moment Africa stands up...

• 2:07:52Speaker 00

  And demands a fair place on the stage, then the rest of the world economy is going to completely crash. And France is not allowing that. They tried to get Niger involved, you know, and come in battle and they tried to get Benin Toga involved to come in. Some of the soldiers in Benin was like, no, I'm not going to attack my brother. But then other soldiers do. So the world is in an unsafe place. What we did in Venezuela.

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• 2:10:56Patrick Bet-David?

  What'd you think about that? Because that was a pretty surgical...

• 2:10:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's very surgical, but...

• 2:11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  It didn't turn into the chaotic. And his answer was more the Monroe Doctrine, let's protect the Western Hemisphere, the Down Road Doctrine, you know, making sure we're good, we're safe. And America became America because we have a history of being an expansionist nation, where, hey, we'll buy Florida for 4 or 5 million. Hey, we'll buy, you know, Texas. We'll buy Louisiana. We'll buy Alaska. We'll fight for California and Arizona. We'll take... And now they're talking about, you know, Cuba, and they're talking about...

• 2:11:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, I don't know if you saw that or not, but Panama came out with the backing of US. Panama came out and says, hey, China...

• 2:11:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, China, you're done.

• 2:11:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You're done. That's not a bad thing. Because if China... I had Christine O'Malley this week.

• 2:11:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And I said, you know, now that we know the virus was leaked out of China, right? And they could have done something about it. For many years, they're like, no, you can't say that. It didn't come from China. It came from somewhere else. Well, now we know it came from the Wuhan lab. It's the Wuhan lab. And they could have closed the airports down earlier. You don't think they intentionally did that to leave it open? Seven million people died. The world economy lost sixteen trillion dollars. China's not been held accountable yet. You think China's a trusted player?

• 2:12:15Speaker 00

  China didn't work by itself with that. The US was involved with that.

• 2:12:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Who was it that was involved from the US?

• 2:12:20Speaker 00

  Everybody was.

• 2:12:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Not everybody. Who was everybody?

• 2:12:23Speaker 00

  I think a lot of the countries that were complicit with it, the ones that immediately were like, okay, we're gonna go into this lockdown. We're going to force this vaccination on everyone. That, that was a coordinated effort. That didn't, that didn't happen. Hey, you know, I think you should do this to your citizens.

• 2:12:41Patrick Bet-David?

  But I, but I think that was also some of the globalists and some of the establishment folks. There's a, there's a, a play right now. It's not the Republican and the Democrat thing.

• 2:12:50Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:12:50Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the globalists that wanna make the whole thing a one world, a whole new world, the new world order, whatever they're calling it. And by the way, the World Economic Forum CEO just stepped down, I think, ten minutes before you and I started speaking because he had ties to, was it ties to Epstein that just came out? Go up to the top, Rob. Let me see the title of the article. Go all the way to the top. What does it say? This World Economic Forum CEO quits after Epstein links examined Nvidia results, failed to wow markets as it happened. So, there's a lot of stuff that's going on right now. And he's, uh, he's got a tough job. I think he's got a very tough job. He looked like he was pretty loose, happy, at State of the Union. I thought he was gonna be intense.

• 2:13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He came in, he did his thing for an hour and forty-eight minutes at seventy-nine years old.

• 2:13:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:40Patrick Bet-David?

  About to be eighty years old. And just, he just lost the tariff ruling. That's a big defeat. It's a public loss. And you know, listen, America's crushing it. America's doing great.

• 2:13:52Speaker 00

  He's the Don. He is Teflon Don.

• 2:13:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You ever met him? Have you guys ever?

• 2:13:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's Teflon Don and I love his bravado and I love the strength that he pushes out. You know, I supported a lot of the things that he was doing and I was never a Democrat in that, in that, in that support, but I've never been, I've never voted because I didn't want to be responsible.

• 2:14:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You've never voted?

• 2:14:18Speaker 00

  No, I didn't want to be responsible for what other people, when you give a vote to someone, whatever they do, you, you have a hand in it. And I was not supporting everything that was taking place, but I didn't think that the Democrats was running the country in a proper way. But there's, there's room for improvement now within this administration. And that's why I'm saying we should start using a little more tact because nobody's threatened anymore by, the threats doesn't do anything but causes the other nations to run to the enemy.

• 2:14:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You have any, I desire politics? Does that at all do anything for you? I can't see you because to me, you give me the vibes of.

• 2:15:05Speaker 00

  I'm honest.

• 2:15:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:06Speaker 00

  Or I try to be honest and that doesn't work in politics.

• 2:15:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's, there's, there's a showmanship element to it, right? There's an element of, you know, how you shine on the big screen.

• 2:15:20Speaker 00

  But doing that every day, you know, I can do it for a few hours on stage, you know, but then I go outside and I'm, I'm, I'm a regular person. I don't run with a bodyguard, even though at times when I was doing the science, I felt like I needed to because I kept getting hit by all of these.

• 2:15:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Did any, did you, so you said you met, uh, first time you met Trump was?

• 2:15:41Speaker 00

  I met Trump when I was doing, I think it was, I don't know if it was Jimmy Fallon or David Kimmel. And I was ready to go and do my thing. And then they were like, oh, we're gonna pull you. Because, you know, Trump is here, you know, and so we passed by each other in the hall, said hello, you know. But I, I did support his, I did support him in the biggest way.

• 2:16:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Publicly or pri-

• 2:16:06Speaker 00

  Privately, I, I, I supported-

• 2:16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That or no, did he give you a hard time?

• 2:16:10Speaker 00

  Everybody, you support who you wanna support. I did support a lot of his policies.

• 2:16:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Were people in Hollywood, like from the outside, it, it looks like 90% is, you know, on one side politically. Are there a lot of conservatives that are in the business that just kinda keep it to themselves?

• 2:16:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think so.

• 2:16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Are there some names that are massive names that if we knew they were conservative, you'd be shocked or not really?

• 2:16:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, you, I think a lot more people, the older you get, you start off liberal. But the older you get, you become more and more conservative because you realize that you have to be very careful with the steps you're taking, more than anything else.

• 2:16:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I fully agree.

• 2:16:50Speaker 00

  Because he is the president of our country, you have to be supportive and be respectful of him. Even if you don't like his policies, even if you don't like his personality. I was told when I was studying to be a witness, he said, um, are you supposed to listen to the elders? If you saw an elder that slapped another, um, member of the congregation, would you listen to his advice? If that, if that same elder, um, lied openly, would you listen to his advice? And he said, if that same elder, um, denied-

• 2:17:34Speaker 00

  Denied, you know, the Jehovah. Would you still listen to him? And I was like, no, no, you don't listen to him anymore. And the brother said to me, he said, well, that same person was Peter. He didn't just, he didn't just slaps another member. He cut off the ear of someone. He didn't just lie on, on anyone, you know? He lied about, you know, the Savior. As long as somebody is in the position of authority that they've been granted,

• 2:18:13Speaker 00

  you still listen and follow the authority and respect that position. But you do it with a full conscience, with an understanding, you know? To become president twice. The way he's done it, you know, forty-fifth and forty-seventh, he, he has earned the respect. He is still the most powerful person on the planet. And I, I really dig his dance, but I think there's times where you can use finesse. He's charming. You can use finesse to accomplish so much more because you don't have to use all the power

• 2:18:57Speaker 00

  that you've got, you know?

• 2:18:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you feel like his, his second term, he's a little bit more calmer than first term?

• 2:19:06Speaker 00

  He's a lot more calm.

• 2:19:07Patrick Bet-David?

  First term, it was like a fight. Every day was a fight.

• 2:19:10Speaker 00

  Well, they were trying to impeach him every single day. So you, we put the president on, into this PTSD mode. And, you know, he's always trying to defend that. And he's, I don't think anyone becomes president of this country so that they can tear apart the country. They're really trying to unite the country, like even with what ICE is doing. They could do it in a more diplomatic way. They can do it ICE. Yeah, they can do it in a more respectful means. You do not, if you use aggression, then you're going to start a revolution. If you keep pushing with aggression, revolution ends up coming out of it. But if you use diplomacy, if you use reasoning, you know, if you use understanding,

• 2:19:53Speaker 00

  then people can align to your cause. That was one of the things Nelson Mandela did. He was like, yeah, I can get up there and become emotional, you know, and talk about all these terrible atrocities that's happened in an emotional way. He said, but then I'll just look angry and emotional. Said, you have to reason with people. And so I think our government needs to take that stance because we don't have the, the power of the dollar that we once had, where we could have our way with other countries. And I don't know if we can survive being an isolated, you know, country at present.

• 2:20:35Patrick Bet-David?

  California, would you ever consider leaving California or not?

• 2:20:38Speaker 00

  Well, now that they've enacted this new rule.

• 2:20:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Wealth tax.

• 2:20:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. A billion dollars and you can make your first billion, but anything over a billion, fifty-five percent, the first hundred million. But then anything after that, it's a five percent tax. It's a weird thing.

• 2:20:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Thinks that's a good idea. Who thinks that's a good idea?

• 2:20:59Speaker 00

  Nobody.

• 2:20:59Patrick Bet-David?

  They already lost a trillion now. This is the second time California lost a trillion now.

• 2:21:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. They're about to do it again.

• 2:21:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, they did it already. They lost a trillion in the last six months.

• 2:21:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, and they're going to now impose this new tax, this wealth tax. It's going to chase all the businesses out of California. And Governor Newsom, he's, he's trying to fight against it. It's not something that he wants to put in place because he saw what happened the last time they pulled that. But I, I think there's a particular reason. I think somebody else is trying to get the power and the money out of California so they can move in. I don't know, but it seems very coordinated. It doesn't seem like something that's just happening out of a whim. You don't chase away the money. You don't chase away money.

• 2:21:47Patrick Bet-David?

  When he's doing the gerrymandering in California now, the Congress is going to be forty-eight to four, Democrat to Republican. Even if a governor wins and he's a Republican, you can't do nothing. You can't get nothing to be. Congress is not going to be on your side. Like, what do you think you're gonna pass? Nothing if you become a governor there in the city of California. So have you reached a tipping point where you guys talk about leaving and living elsewhere? Or not yet?

• 2:22:10Speaker 00

  We're thinking about leaving the US. Because the US isn't necessarily safe and welcoming right now. You can't, you try and think about, okay, where can I live? Well, I definitely want to live in a place where they don't have a military base. Because what? Because of the escalation and the conflicts around the world. And now the US, the homeland can be hit. Well, you can't be in Hawaii, because Hawaii, you know, they have.

• 2:22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Military base everywhere.

• 2:22:43Speaker 00

  Everywhere. You can't be in California. You know, you can't be in Florida. You can't be in, all of these places has, that are easily accessible.

• 2:22:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Not Florida. What, what, what do you consider Florida?

• 2:22:56Speaker 00

  It's just open. I love Florida, but the waters are open.

• 2:23:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Glad to take you, Terrence. You would love the restaurants in Miami. I can see you guys in Miami or.

• 2:23:07Speaker 00

  Man, they get.

• 2:23:08Patrick Bet-David?

  They're moving here and they're making it safer here.

• 2:23:10Speaker 00

  But you can't make it safe for ballistic weapons, missiles. You, you know, it's, you want someplace.

• 2:23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Go outside USAU.

• 2:23:20Speaker 00

  Iceland. Iceland is a.

• 2:23:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought you were gonna say Costa Rica. I thought you were gonna say like a low key, quiet, no military state.

• 2:23:29Speaker 00

  Iceland is no military. Iceland is.

• 2:23:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You could live in Iceland?

• 2:23:33Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, we've been a couple of times and we love it. But we want a place that, that's, you know, that's non-confrontational. You know, that's what you ultimately want. You want a place where your kids can grow. Because I've got two kids on a spectrum. And I worry about how people are. I need, I need to be in a place where, you know, you have your water. You have the thermo, the heat there. You know, the dollar cash is going to disappear. I think, I think that's one of the biggest things that's hurting. You know, is this indirect form of exchange, you know, that that's messed up the natural interaction. When people bartered, you know, there was a good exchange. Nobody felt like

• 2:24:17Speaker 00

  they were being taken or anything like that. I think ultimately, as we become more conscious, we will get to a place like that.

• 2:24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  How close are you to making a decision to leave the state, the country? You guys, is that close or is it still in the talks?

• 2:24:31Speaker 00

  I mean, we may move to Korea, but then that's a big spot because her, she's Korean. But you have what's happening with North Korea, you've, you know, and all the military bases in Korea. I just want to move to a place, even if it's, if it's, you know, New Zealand, you know, a place with no conflict. I've fought enough in my life. I don't want, I don't want to fight anymore.

• 2:24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Where do you feel the most at peace? What city? What area?

• 2:25:06Speaker 00

  Dag, I don't know. I don't know the, but there was a great deal of peace, you know, even when I was in Prague in the Czech Republic at other times, not that first time.

• 2:25:18Patrick Bet-David?

  First time, there's a little bit, there's a lot of beating around going on with ISIS.

• 2:25:23Speaker 00

  Beating around the bush.

• 2:25:30Speaker 00

  But I did.

• 2:25:31Patrick Bet-David?

  If somebody just watches the clip by itself, they have to go watch the whole podcast because you will not know what reference we're talking about. Shout out to Czechoslovakia. My first girlfriend was from Czechoslovakia, in Germany, at 11 years old. Her name was Katarina Staff. First girl ever, it was Katarina Staff. Her and her brother were good friends of mine.

• 2:25:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, I fell in love a few times over there.

• 2:25:56Patrick Bet-David?

  They produce good products over there.

• 2:25:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Very.

• 2:25:59Speaker 00

  But the historicity of the city, I mean to even going over the Charles Bridge and you look at all of the different statues that's been, and this is 600 years old.

• 2:26:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Prague, is that a pod, like, would you consider Prague?

• 2:26:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, Prague, I love that place.

• 2:26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 2:26:14Speaker 00

  I love that place. Prague is.

• 2:26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting. Yeah, to me, like, I'll go to a place and I'll say, okay, how do I feel? You know, I want to get the vibe, like, and also depends what phase of your life you're in, like,

• 2:26:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  in a, you're selling a company and tension, it's high, you're like, you may have bad memories of the place, but if you go to a certain place and you just can put your feet up, relax, enjoy, go eat good food. Any city I go to, Terrence, if the food isn't good, I'm not happy. I want good food. I want really good food, entertain, you know, go enjoy yourself. Um, but yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you may want to put Florida on that list. You may want to consider Florida. Florida will treat you well. She looks like she's okay with Florida as well.

• 2:26:58Speaker 00

  We've talked about it, the tax incentives here is a, is a beautiful package, but when this place is under, when we have these many conflicts taking place, you know, with, with Cuba right now, you know, if something does happen, I think Florida be, would be one of the first places that they hit. So I'm just thinking about where can I be where my family will be safe in the.

• 2:27:22Patrick Bet-David?

  No matter where you go, no matter where you go, there's gonna be something and you gotta pick and choose which one you want to talk about, which one you want to pick. Last time we were together, uh, I don't know how Diddy conversation came up. That went everywhere. You remember that? When we talked about the Diddy conversation where I think he wants to, you know, you.

• 2:27:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think he's trying to.

• 2:27:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:44Speaker 00

  Got it, yeah.

• 2:27:45Patrick Bet-David?

  And then afterwards, he obviously went to prison, court, all that stuff has been done. And I don't know if you had a chance to watch the 50 Cent documentary?

• 2:27:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, I saw it.

• 2:27:54Patrick Bet-David?

  What'd you think about it?

• 2:27:56Speaker 00

  Um, 50 went in. He went all the way in, but it's like when you start judging people for the choices that they've made, you don't know the conditions and the circumstances that they were put under. You know, like, I think about those girls that did that to me when I was four. Where did they learn it from?

• 2:28:22Speaker 00

  Who did what to them that made them think it was normal to carry this thing out? You know, I think that a lot of us get caught up in habits. That was passed down to us that aren't necessarily innate from us, but they get passed on to us. So I've got to look at him, you know, with compassion because you got to remember he's still, he's still us. You look in his eyes, it's the same light of God that's shining back. It's just another wave of the universe looking at us.

• 2:28:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Diddy, come on, Diddy.

• 2:28:59Speaker 00

  You know, even Epstein, all of them, what one human being does, all human beings are doing. Because we're just really, what happens in the sea over here, we don't say this wave just crashed.

• 2:29:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Interesting thing to say, when what, if one human being does, so, meaning someone taught Epstein, someone taught Diddy, when I had Shug Knight on, Shug Knight said, uh, who did he say, Rob? That taught Diddy, he gave a name, Quincy, no, was it Quincy?

• 2:29:29Speaker 00

  Clive.

• 2:29:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Clive, Clive Davis, yeah, he said Clive Davis.

• 2:29:31Speaker 00

  Clive Davis.

• 2:29:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he talked about that, what Clive did early on and, um, and then so probably somebody taught Clive and this thing keeps, did, did, did you hear any stories about Epstein in Hollywood? Or he wasn't a Hollywood guy?

• 2:29:45Speaker 00

  No, I mean, I, hell, I, when I would hear about Chris Tucker and people hopping on the, hopping on the plane to go there, I didn't, I didn't know that Epstein was, you know, the bad guy that he is now, but I was like, damn, I would love to go, you know? I didn't know what was happening.

• 2:30:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No one talked about Epstein?

• 2:30:04Speaker 00

  No, nobody.

• 2:30:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Harvey, they did, but not Epstein.

• 2:30:07Speaker 00

  They didn't talk about Epstein, I didn't know. But hell, I could have easily ended up over there if he had invited me over there. Cause you, you think, okay, I'm going with the, with the Hollywood move. That's how you get there, like I wasn't invited to the Puffy parties. I wasn't invited to any of those things, so that's.

• 2:30:28Speaker 00

  There's a part of me that's so grateful that I wasn't invited. But back then, I felt excluded. Back then, I felt like, oh, I must be doing something wrong. You know, I'm, I'm. I wish I had participated in some of the druggery. You know, and then wouldn't have alienated people that were good friends with my, that could have been good friends. You know, because I still ended up participating in the druggery when I got older. But at the time, at the time, I just didn't want to do it because, you know, I had these other things that were pressing upon me. Now, I didn't get stuck into druggery, you know, but, yeah, it would have been nice to take some walks.

• 2:31:11Speaker 00

  You know, when I look back, you know, in my thirties.

• 2:31:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Could have ended nasty.

• 2:31:15Speaker 00

  It could have ended nasty.

• 2:31:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So the fact that you didn't is probably a better thing.

• 2:31:18Speaker 00

  So the universe places you, you can't really regret anything. You know, but there's still parts of me that's like, wow, I dodged a bullet with Epstein. I dodged a bullet because I wasn't invited to those places. You know, but at the time, I didn't see it. I heard Denzel say once how he used to be so upset about Kevin Spacey. You know, Kevin Spacey was getting everything. He's had all these beautiful opportunities that even him, after everything he had done, he wasn't getting what he needed. And then, but I remember him saying, I wouldn't want to be Kevin Spacey now.

• 2:31:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So he was upset that Kevin was getting the opportunities?

• 2:31:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm sure he's, he used to really want, because Kevin got a lot of great, challenging stuff. And it was just, and I'm not completely sure of the full context, but hearing him say that, hearing that, that statement. And it was something he said in an interview that made me rethink. Yeah, I'm so glad that I didn't have those opportunities that I thought I needed and wanted at the time.

• 2:32:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Denzel seems like he had influence over you in your career.

• 2:32:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, he did.

• 2:32:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Honorable man?

• 2:32:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, he gave me some other advice once. I did this table read and I got loud. And then he took me outside. He said, um, he said, listen, say you're walking down an alley, dark alley. And there's somebody at the end of the alley talking about, I'm gonna kill you, you mother ever, I'm gonna kill you, da, da, da, da. And, you know, he may be serious, but he said, how, how afraid of them are you? He's all the way at the end of the alley. He said, but if someone comes up to you and they say, I'm gonna cut your throat. Which one are you more afraid of? The one yelling or the one whispering?

• 2:33:11Speaker 00

  And so it made me stop being obnoxious in my acting.

• 2:33:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 2:33:20Speaker 00

  You know?

• 2:33:21Patrick Bet-David?

  What a, what a powerful advice to give. Sometimes the lowest tone can be scarier than you having to scream.

• 2:33:29Speaker 00

  That's the power. God whispers. God never yells.

• 2:33:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, we did this whole conversation today and we haven't even talked about all this other stuff. This, the first one was all about God, but this was a phenomenal conversation. See, if you were in Florida, we would do this more often. Okay, I'm gonna keep selling Florida to you.

• 2:33:47Speaker 00

  But you did great. You did great. I mean, the last hotel, Mary, that wasn't, you didn't know, you didn't know, but the, the Four Seasons, this entire trip, you, yeah.

• 2:33:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Where are you staying at? Where are you staying at?

• 2:33:58Speaker 00

  Over at the Four Seasons now, man. And you, you did. It's a beautiful, it's a beautiful place. So, thank you for taking care of me.

• 2:34:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Anytime. No, anytime.

• 2:34:06Speaker 00

  And bringing me back here, you know, I didn't plan, I didn't know what I was going to talk about.

• 2:34:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you know, I thought about, I'm like, you know what? I, and even when we started, you said some things and I took the notes and I said, I don't know, man. I just want to go a completely different direction. And I'm glad I did because the conversation was phenomenal. I learned a lot.

• 2:34:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, me too.

• 2:34:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I learned a lot of phrases you use. We laughed, we learned history. And by the way, I'm sure a couple of the single guys are watching this, they're gonna use our line, Rob.

• 2:34:35Speaker 00

  Storage house?

• 2:34:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah. But anyways.

• 2:34:39Speaker 00

  Empty the storage container.

• 2:34:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Empty the storage container. It was wild. And for the folks that are watching, you can always Monect Terrence and ask him any questions you have for him. The man's got a wealth of knowledge and experience. Click on the link below, send him a Monect. Terrence, appreciate you.

• 2:34:56Speaker 00

  Thank you, brother.

• 2:34:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And until next time, take care.

• 2:34:58Speaker 00

  Amen.

• 2:34:59Patrick Bet-David?

  My man, really enjoyed it.

• 2:35:00Speaker 00

  You too. Hi, everyone. My name is Terrence Howard. I'm an actor, but in the field of science also. So, if you would like to connect with me, you can connect with me on Monect. The QR code is down below and let's have a great conversation.

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